Memorial Day Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on May 31, 2010 10:58 AM CDT
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The Rangers have been swept in Minnesota, and have lost 6 of 7.
They have fallen out of first place.
Nelson Cruz has been placed on the disabled list.
Derek Holland appears likely to join him.
I'd say this is the low point of the season.
Jeff Wilson's game story is about Derek Holland having a sore shoulder, and heading back to Texas to see Dr. Meister. Tommy Hunter is set to start today for Oklahoma, and he'd be set to pitch on normal rest on Saturday when Holland's spot comes back around.
T.R. Sullivan's game story says the Ranger rotation is out of whack.
Wilson's notes include discussion of Cruz's trip to the d.l.
Gerry Fraley has some notes from yesterday's game, including the news that the Rangers have a .336 slugging percentage on the road this year.
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I second this from Joey Matches
It’s time … for Joaquin Arias to go, for Julio Borbon — who is still on pace for the single-worst offensive season by a center fielder in baseball history — to either show some indication of figuring it out in the majors or be dispatched back to Triple-A Oklahoma City to figure it out there
Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.
I just don't get the Arias love the FO seems to be showing.
He is not a UIF, because he can’t play SS/3B with his arm. He isn’t good enough to come close to challenging Kinsler at 2b. He would provide the same quality of offense that we are getting out of 1b if we moved him there full time, without the upside of either of the guys we’ve played there this year. He can’t seem to play the OF. We don’t use him to run for people very often, which is good because I seem to remember him being a pretty stupid runner.
We have 2 UIF and don’t use either one. In this stretch I can understand it because of the plethora of off days, but there really is no reason to have Arias on an MLB roster if he isn’t your starting 2b.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
It would be very hard to argue against that statement.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Borbon appears
to be example number 563,321 of the incredibly overrated fast guy.
"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
wow he's historically bad, that's saying something right there.
Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.
Worst part about him,
is a lot of his faults, popgun arm, nao walks, no power, bad jumps, were probably obvious even in the minors, yet there were folks who said he is untouchable for Halladay.
"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
Out of whack?
The whole team is out of whack from the front office to the coaching staff to the players. Fuck them all and fuck ourselves to think that this year was going to be any different.
by icouldusesomebaseball on May 31, 2010 11:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's official
Derek Holland has feline AIDS. Whu-whahhhhh….
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
What happened to the team that would
send Chris Davis, TT and Salty packing for not producing, even in a short sample?
I’m so tired of watching Borbon and Murphy flail away against LH
Salty got sent packing...
…because he wasn’t healthy enough to play, and then couldn’t throw the ball back to the pitcher.
by Adam J. Morris on May 31, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Do you think they would take quantity over Scheppers
like Kirkman/Harrison/Beavan or some such?
That's a big pass for me
Too much to give up for Bourn.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
I don't know
he did win a knife fight with a rolled up magazine. Pretty bad ass if you ask me.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Michael Bourn with the .674 OPS??
Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.
As long as he keeps getting the SB and playing plus defense in CF
I’m ok with that. He gets on base, scores runs, has good range, and unlike Borbon, has a plus arm. I think I saw some where he had scored somewhere close to 20% of all the Astros runs this year.
He still only has a .316 wOBA
Both career and this season.
I wouldn’t trade Scheppers for that.
"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."
I wouldn’t trade Scheppers for anybody
dont know how to do the line through thing or i would do that.
Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.
What has happened to This Thing in the past week
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Very good metaphor.
"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."
This sucks but
if the low point of the season ends up being 26-24, I’ll take it.
Newberg
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
Let's see....
1) We can’t hit on the road
2) We don’t hit with RISP
3) Our manager insists we need to give up outs so we can score more runs
4) the pen is about to flame out from overuse(how about that one guy- one inning thing)
5)one of the prized prospects now has arm issues
6)one of our two consistent producers is making his second dl trip
7) we’re trying to compete with only 2/3 of a lineup, since 1b, C and CF are non-productive
8)our big FA signing has pitched like crap for the most part
9)our best pitcher from ’09 is getting hit like a pinata at a kids party
10) our mgr says he needs 2 UIF, although neither ever play
Dang, it feels good to be a Rangers fan today. Surely things have got to improve..right? right?
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
And sadly...
even though all that is true (and very depressing), I will still argue that the Rangers are the best team in the West.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Oh yes, I still think the season more likely ends up with the Rangers in the playoffs than not.
But that doesn’t make the present much less miserable. It’s a lot less comfortable a feeling than it was a week ago, and losing Cruz and Holland is quite the hit.
I guess on the bright side....
we are still somehow above .500 with so much that has gone wrong, you would have to think our luck will start to change.
by death of the cool on May 31, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Accurate list
It makes one think a lot about past discussions about floor versus ceiling. We see talent, and tend to relate it to potential. Then we don’t pay enough attention to the floor, or near worst case scenario on a player by player basis. Then we might fail at times to allow for what some call chemistry or clutch factor, which in reality is a blend of how the team works in situational or circumstantial play on the field (and that doesn’t go well, even if there is clubhouse harmony). Sometimes balls to the OF fall in that shouldn’t. Sometimes positioning is wrong for a given pitcher-hitter matchup. It causes some to say the team has a low baseball IQ.
It may be inexperience in some ways, or it may be doing what they are told by their manager, or unhappily, there may be some really poor “game smarts” among ‘em. In any case, we’ve let the apparent talent level raise expectations that might be awfully hard to meet.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on May 31, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: Last night's game,
It looks like Dernard Span’s cock may have fucked up Hudson’s wrist…
Hudson’s left arm hit Span below the belt during the collision, and Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said that Hudson, who declined comment after the game, was undergoing X-rays on his left hand. It’s the same hand/wrist that Hudson dislocated back in August 2008, an injury that required surgery.
Balls of Steel?
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I can't wait
Until some linebacker complains that he has a concussion from getting smashed in the face by Visanthe Shiancoe’s monster cock.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
If he's hurt, maybe we can trade them Arias!!!
Then again, maybe not….
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
I'm sure the Twins have a replacement level 2b in their system.
Apparently we are the only team that doesn’t have a extra replacement level play sitting around in the minors so that we can’t afford to ditch Arias in case Kinsler gets injured again.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
I don't get it.
I have asked this before, but why in the hell is Arias here and E. German is not? German can fill in at more spots, and can actually hit a little.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Neither Arias or German should be here is the problem
The spot that Arias has should probably be for Boggs or another RH OF option that we could actually use.
I honestly don’t understand why we haven’t run Arias through waivers. I have to imagine many clubs have someone like him around. Decent defensively. Decent on the bases. Below average with the bat. Limited to one position.
Just don’t see the value there.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
also from TR's crapbag
Is it just me or are the Rangers sending mixed signals to the fans? Their motto this year is “It’s Time,” but when I look how they are giving Julio Borbon all this time and he hasn’t produced at all this year … why keep Murphy on the bench when he’s clearly a better option than Borbon if this is a year where they want to win? Can they really afford to have no production out of two spots in their order?
— Josh T., Belton, Texas
Borbon needs to stay right where he is. Certainly there is some concern within the Rangers organization that he might need more time with Triple-A Oklahoma City, and that is a possibility. Totally disagree with that line of thinking. Borbon can play, his offense is getting better in the No. 9 spot, and he is playing well defensively. This guy is going to be very good and does not need to go anywhere. Borbon is a definite keeper.
and this stinking pile here
Any chance the Rangers try to acquire Kevin Millwood at the Trade Deadline, considering the Orioles’ situation?
— Andrew T., Plano, Texas
It’s a 99 percent guarantee that Millwood will not be with the Orioles on Aug. 1. If the Rangers have a need for a starting pitcher, Millwood will have to be on their list. He can still pitch and would be a much cheaper pickup than Roy Oswalt.
and it just gets worse
I know many people get onto Ron Washington about many different things, but the players love him and seem to play hard for him, and that may not be true with another manager. I have seen better managers, also have seen a lot worse. I think that he deserves more time. What do you think?
— Bill M., Amarillo, Texas
He deserves at least a two-year contract extension.
oh dear God!
Nolan/JD-in the name of all that is holy, please ignore this idea!
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Ok...
First one he’s wrong almost completely. If Borbon is getting better than it’s either going really slowly or I’m just not seeing it. Second one, I suppose there’s a better chance of Millwood than Oswalt but I bet there’s 20 names ahead of him. And 3rd, I really really hope that’s TR’s joke answer of the week.
"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
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T.R. must be a brown noseing tool for rangers management
otherwise these answers (and some of the questions) are a complete joke
For his career, his K/9 and WHIP are better in the second half.
Just thought you might be interested in knowing that.
Not any more interested than I would be if someone presented me with Ripken's career hitting numbers
when talking about the last couple years of his career.
But, that’s good information to know at least. (Millwood)
I just read Doug Glanville's new book.
It’s really tame stuff, an easy/fast read. Your Jr. High kid might like it – even an ambitious elementary kid who’s a baseball fan. He’s like the Mr. Rogers of pro sports. In the acknowledgements at the end he admits to writing the book in a big hurry over the summer before his child was due to be born. The haste shows – it reads like an extended comment at a blog. FANSHOT!
There are some tidbits from the Buck Era at Texas – but I don’t know if it’s enough to recommend reading the book, unless you’re a kid like I said. Spoilers follow - Chan Ho Park refused to buy the minor leaguers a dinner spread as is the custom of rehabbing major leaguers. How do you say ‘douche’ in Korean? Buck Showalter was a preparation/meetings freak extraordinaire – he had a dossier on every opposing player filled with even the most trivial crap – all discussed in prep meetings. Glanville thought Hicks ran an uptown lush player-friendly org. Ranger FO whispers about DG goldbricking during rehab drove him back to the field too early – kinda ticked him off. He never saw any roids in the Texas clubhouse – or anywhere else for that matter. Claims he was clean. 59 career HR’s – believable. Carl Everett was nuts – almost got into a clubhouse fight with Randy Smith over nothing by just being an azz. Claims an un-named Texas player showed up in spring training suddenly hitting tape-measure BP shots, causing Kevin Mench to loudly cry, “Holy Andro!” as the balls flew over the fence. Any guesses? MY was my first thought.
I just started Dirk Hayhurst’s new book “Bullpen Gospels.” After just 2 chapters I can already tell it’s way better than Glanville’s vanilla effort. I’m glad I never read his BA diary entries now – all of these tales will be fresher and funnier for it.
by shroomer on May 31, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ive never heard of Young hitting tape measure HRs even in BP
Looking back on the 2003 team Johnathan Greene is a name that sticks out as a possibility. Hit 1 HR in 2002 and then 10 in 2003
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Todd Greene not Johnathan
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
that's great and all
but I think we all want to hear about the antidotes…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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I thought the low point was that 6 game slide between Cleveland and Boston
With that horrid Yankee series. We actually played mostly well against the Twins and had chances to win every game. I suppose that is improvement over years past.
"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
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It still confounds me that there is no game today
Who are the marketing wizards who came up with this one?
by LoneStarBallUser on May 31, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
yup you're guaranteed a sell out, this is DUMB
Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.
Wash thought they would need another off day
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
He need to rest his 2 UIF's!
You know, the ones who never play.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
We would be on the road anyway
So while sure its stupid it really doesn’t affect us as much as the White Sox or Twins who would be the benefactor from all this
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well, that and EVERYONE (besides me) is off work today.
And those who are at work (like me) will be totally mailing it in. This would’ve been a great day to have a shitload of baseball on TV….
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Borbon
Has his defense been above average?
I am not a stats guy, so maybe someone that is can help me out here…..
just by watching him in CF everyday…..it seems that he has no where near the range of Marlon Byrd, and looks very tentative chasing down balls in the gap or nearing the wall.
It’s one thing to leave him in there struggling at the plate if he is a defensive wizard (Andrus of CF) but he doesn’t look anything close to this.
Maybe me eyes are deceiving me….
by death of the cool on May 31, 2010 11:59 AM CDT reply actions
Most stats say
he is around average.
"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
He was like -7.7
last week, which shows that the number isn’t very stable.
"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
I don't think defensive numbers being unstable over two months is news to anyone.
Especially when you’re pro-rating them over a much larger sample. That’s a difference of a couple runs in ~40 games.
Phil Nevin?
Good lord.
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by Brandon Worley on May 31, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I missed...
’85 – ’88 and ’90.
In my defense, that was before I became a Rangers fan, but I still should have at least got ’90.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Wow, talk about difficult ones in those 80's teams.
Before my time, and never even heard of those last 3.
Crazy to see how the salaries have climbed so ridiculously high over the last 20 years.
greg harris
i don’t remember him, but looks like he was a pretty good reliever and not a very good starter.
gary ward had a nice career. 2 time allstar.
if you haven’t heard of charlie hough, shame on you.
Chan Ho Park and Phil Nevin...
yaiiiikes.
"I'm pretty sure there's more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is."
So when I tell people in here not to publicly celebrate the injury
to a rival (like what we saw with Morales on Saturday), the reasons why are because it’s not classy but it also pisses of Baseball Gods, meaning bad karma is soon for your own doorstep.
Not sure what to think with the Dutch Oven. No way the rotator cuff is torn but it might be severely strained, which is a 2-3 month, possibly season ending injury.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
2-3 months on a strained rotator cuff sounds about right
I’ve been on the shelf for a month with a severe strain of the rotator cuff. And just when it starts to feel better, you tweak it doing some normal, every day motion and you’re right back where you started.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on May 31, 2010 10:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hit "enter" too quickly
But I kind of doubt that’s actually what’s going on…although you feel some pain radiating down your bicep and tricep, I never came close to losing any feeling in my hand…not even any tingly feelings. I’m not optimistic for Holland.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on May 31, 2010 10:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I just got back from chick fil a
The spicy chicken sammich is good.. but it isn’t as good as their normal one. I’ll still be getting the regular at chick fil a and elsewhere for spicy.
The new chick fil a spicy isn't good enough to make me not rather have their regular sammich
When I want spicy..I will probably go to Wendy’s though. Their spicy is awesome. =)
Play on the Road
It’s amazing how different the Rangers have played at home compared to on the road this year. Does any other the blame go on the players or should it go on Ron Washington and the coaching staff? The starting rotation needs to get back on track, they’ve been inconsistant.
David Murphy should play left more often and Josh can move back to center and let Barbon can be sent to Triple A to figure out how to hit or figure out if he needs his eyes checked and make sure he can see. Murphy has been a great hitter off the bench and diserves to get more opportunities.
by Ryan2907 on May 31, 2010 2:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Don't worry...
nobody outside of DFW saw Saturday’s game.
MLB and FOX made sure of that.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
value question
Does a 1.0 batting runs above avg equate to a 1.0 fielding runs above avg? Is David Eckstein (1.8 WAR) just as valuable as Jose Bautista (1.8) even though Ecksteins value is mostly (about 2/3) due to his defense?
Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.
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