Bakersfield and Visalia brawl after Engel Beltre home run (video)
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2010 10:00 AM CDT
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PrintWe now have YouTube video of the brawl that broke out after the Bakersfield and Visalia game, where the Visalia players apparently took offense at Engel Beltre's excessive flava as he hit a walk-off home run. Confrontation at third base, Beltre having to be pulled away to finish touching home plate, then benches emptying and punches being thrown...
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He might have enough fire to light This Thing
heh
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Looks like the 3B and SS were on the base path during Beltre's home run trot.
They should be walking off the field not talking in the infield.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
Yep. Seems like the umps should've figured out what was gonna happen there.
I would’ve liked to have seen the bat flip.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
I think that was the pitcher, not the SS
And I think they were out there to let him know they didn’t appreciate the way he threw his bat up in the air and admired his home run.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you're right that it was the pitcher
Not often you see a pitcher yell at a batter while he’s running the bases after hitting a home run, much less start a confrontation.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jun 1, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a walk-off... you celebrate that shit and the other team jogs off the field with their penises fully in shame position, that's how it works.
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
The guy in the back looks like he does excellent rapes.
I must learn his techniques…
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe that's David Bowie
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I know.
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it gay to say
that David Bowie has always had great hair?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
Ask Bob and Dan
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Rebel rebel I tore your dress hot tramp I love you so hahaha
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Bet you know that position of shame well, don't you 'Tron?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course I do.
Why do you ask?
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Just wanted to make sure.
I’m married, so I obviously know the position well, as well.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
This reminds me of the KSK mailbag...
…where the guy wrote in to say that the best part of Halloween is picking up some skank at some party and bringing her home, and then she has to do the Walk of Shame the next morning while wearing her costume.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
x
My apartment is literally the very last one down a verrrry long hallway. Walking girls out (or if they go themselves) is hilarious because it’s almost inevitable that they run across some normal resident of my hallway before they finally get out.
It’s always obvious when a girl is leaving wearing going out clothes (or some ridiculous costume) the next day. I find it especially amusing.
You misspelled "dudes."
Walking dudes out.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey
O
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
"Shameful penis positions remind me of Halloween and mail." -AJM
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
New Tagline
“Daps Bapesball, Dats Habbens”
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jun 1, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It's time to bring Foggy up to the big league club.
The ballpark fans are on the verge of wilting along with the team.
Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.
Beltre believes his prospect ranking should be #1.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
by rooster on Jun 1, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
I thought it was pretty funny the tv station
didn’t bother to edit that.
Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam
mjh agrees with him
Not mediocre. Right about average
BTW
It looks like the many prospects that struggled last year have turned corner this year:
Beltre
Main
Ramirez
Beavan (last year was hardly a struggle, but I think this year he is taking a big step forward)
Jack Daddy
Not sure Main has really "turned the corner" this year.
Unless you’re talking about giving up home runs to opposing batters.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Main is a fly ball pitcher
pitching in a home park that is 354 to CF. That might have something to do with it.
Jack Daddy
Wait?
The CF at Bakersfield is only 354? WTF does it double as a 12-year old girls softball stadium? How is that possible in professional baseball?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
It's a high fence, but, yah... short.
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
The Cal League resides in an alternate universe
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
It plays like a normal outfield
Despite the fact that there are lots of warning track fly balls. It’s hard to hit a ball out to center there.
Actually...
…Bakersfield is only moderately homer-friendly and plays neutral overall. Tall fence, reasonably deep corners, and a couple of video-game parks (Lancaster, High Desert) to make the rest of the league look pitcher-friendly.
"Most of Jesus’s parables were economic parables, and they were free-market parables." -- Andrew Schlafly
Let's not get too excited, though
All of those guys still have questions. And look up the last time Beltre walked, and his BaBIP for May. Encouraging month, but hardly a breakout.
Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam
Yup.
Beltre looks like he’s having a good year for high A, but he still doesn’t look like much of a prospect. It is a little encouraging, though.
From what I understand...
…he’s also considered to be a terrific defensive CF’er.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
How terrific?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Super Terrific
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
What kind of terrific??
Would that be “I have real skills” terrific, or “I’m really fast, so, yeah” terrific?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Some of A, some of B
Put another way, he’s regarded highly enough to push David Paisano to right.
"Most of Jesus’s parables were economic parables, and they were free-market parables." -- Andrew Schlafly
This is nice to know
ty
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
In the same way
that some folks considered Borbon to be a Gold Glover? In other words, is he really good, or just so fast he impresses the easily fooled?
"No, I'm not a pessimist. At some point the world shits on everybody. Pretending it ain't shit makes you an idiot, not an optimist."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
when the fence is 354
it could give the impression of having good range
Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.
somehow I think the scouts might also have thought of this.
Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam
CFs
also play close enough to the IF to have a private conversation with the 2B in Bakersfield.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Doesn't look like much of a prospect?
That’s a bit of a ridiculous statement.
And we’re really looking at BaBIP for A-ball players?
Yeah, let us not forget the fact that minor league fielders are involved in calculating a prospect's BABIP
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Exactly.
Beltre is going to be 20 years old all season in a league filled with 24- and 25-year-old players.
Look up Manny Pina’s BaBIP his first year in Clinton. Was he unlucky? No. He rarely hit a ball out of the infield.
This isn’t the majors where everyone is on the same level. In A ball, you’re going to have advanced players that crush the ball every time up, and you’re going to have younger players like Pina that year that almost never make solid contact.
And thus, why I dislike statistical analysis in the minors––it’s not a good predictor of anything at all. It’s nice to put up numbers, but analyzing them is generally an exercise in futility. It’s just not that black and white in the minors.
by JasonCole on Jun 1, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ya
I watched the Frisco game that was on TV last weekend.
Perez pitched better than his line shows for sure. Kasse sucks at SS.
This seems a little hyperbolic
And thus, why I dislike statistical analysis in the minors––it’s not a good predictor of anything at all.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Have you ever seen Beltre play?
Because it doesn’t seem like it. Beltre was a notorious first-pitch hacker that would chase no matter where it was. He was swinging at fastballs in the dirt. Yeah, he’s swinging a lot these days, and he was more aggressive the last two days than he was when I saw him last month. But he’s still not expanding the zone very often. He’s going after pitches he can drive, and that’s why he’s hitting .300.
Beltre may never walk a bunch, but he will improve. The other parts of his game are developing, and the discipline will go along with that––in fact, it already has, as I mentioned he’s not expanding his zone very often anymore.
20 years old in the Cal League. It means more than you think it does, and it certainly means you shouldn’t be overanalyzing his stats. I’ve yet to talk to a scout that is worried about him right now.
by JasonCole on Jun 1, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good, I hope they're right.
But just like I wouldn’t be confident if he had a great plate approach but scouts saw something wrong with him, I’m not going to be confident if he has a poor plate approach but scouts like him.
Like I said, we’ll see. He is young and, you’re right, he absolutely could improve.
Agreed.
And “not much of a prospect” was a little over the top. I mostly meant I don’t buy him as the prospect I was told he was by the Kevin Goldsteins and Baseball America’s of the world a couple years ago.
I’m higher on him than I was a few minutes ago, though.
This is great to hear.
On a related note, how do you feel about age relative to league for pitchers as opposed to hitters?
Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam
x
Pudge used to say when confronted by his lack of walks that you can’t get off the island by walking.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
Very old line that predates Pudge by at least a decade, FWIW.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Yeah, that's a Dominican saying, by the way
Pudge is Puerto Rican.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
Neftali Feliz says sit your 5 dollar ass down before he makes change...
Of course we're looking at BaBIP
It’s FAR from the only thing we look at, but I was adding it to the discussion, along with the 3% walk rate over the last month.
Ceterum censeo, Ron Washington esse delendam
Yup, you don't just throw it out, you look at it in context and as a part of a larger picture.
Just because a lot of things can skew BABIP numbers for minor league players doesn’t mean they can’t be lucky or unlucky.
I still wouldn't bet on him realizing his potential with that horrid plate discipline...
But now, I can at least honestly say I really like Engel Beltre. Heh.
"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."
He will never make it above AA.
At least with the Rangers.
Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.
He just seems like a toolsy prospect
that cannot consistently takes advantage of one of his tools.
Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.
I agree
But even those guys usually make it to AAA or ride bounce from bench to bench, like Joey Gathright.
"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."
True.
You may yet be right, he seems like the perfect sort of guy to tack into the back of a trade.
"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."
Or he gets selected
in the minor league phase of the Rule 5 draft.
Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.
DAMMIT
no YouTube at work. I’ll have to remember to watch this later.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
wow
talk about obscure pop-culture references.
/need any back-issues of Bait?
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Das beisbol
main.
Not mediocre. Right about average
I loved how Engel and Bill Haselman just brushed it off like it was no biggie
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
They're all at fault..
Engel for his Brett Booneyness.. The pitcher for getting in the way instead of just yelling.
If he is, I'd bet anything he gets hit.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet you anything both teams are so beaten down with warnings and threats by the umps/league officials that no one does shit.
But, then again, this Bakersfield, so they might throw ’em some spears and tell ’em to finish that shit.
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Can we get Leuke there for the game?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jun 1, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Bakersfield seems like a place where an Artest-style brawl would not only occur, but also be appreciated
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
According to the Bakersfield town charter it can't even technically be considered a brawl until at least 3 ladies have been sex-crimed and 1.5 Mexicans have been lit on fire.
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
How do you light half a Mexican on fire?
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
By using fucking fire, you dumb shit.
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
I am laughing so hard I almost cannot type this
Well done.
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by cutting him in half and then lighting one half?
Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.
Midgets
or…tiny people, as they prefer
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 1, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
NO, it's vertically challenged!!
Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.
the left armpit of America
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 1, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
ep ah ep ah epic fail my dear
boy.
Where is Benji Gil when you need him.
I wish that Davis Stoneburner was a legit prospect.
Could be my favorite prospect name ever.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Random prospect question time...
What is the best-case scenario for Leury Garcia? Guy seems to have mad wheels.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
OT: MLB Network right now
08 Home Run Derby…Hamilton’s 1st round is on now…tune in for the memories, or just to be depressed about what once was
by fightingengineer on Jun 1, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions
They played the 09 Home Run Derby on ESPN last night
Nelly should have beat the shit out of the fatass
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Nice to see Beltre's all growns up now
maturity is such a beautiful thing to witness.
Who looked like they won that, black or red?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
I think red, unfortunately
the only jersey on the ground was a black one.
That's why they call them business sox
yeah but how do you know that's not his specialty
jump on the ground, and gnash at the enemy’s achilles with your teeth
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 1, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
FREE FOGGY!
Wash for this scene your role is to act like a manager who know's what the F he is doing. I know it's a creative stretch 'cus.....he do what he do.
I love his response
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 1, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a thug
Regardless of whether he was right or wrong in this situation, he is a thug. I don’t foresee him being a positive force on the major league team.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/profile.php?id=827449987&ref=ts
Ephesians 1:3-10
that
was supposed to take you to Engel Beltre’s facebook page so that you could confirm for yourself that he is a thug.
Ephesians 1:3-10
What were we gonna see there?
Proof that he’s a scary minority?
The 40 trumps all!
Don’t throw a party for vengeance. It will turn on you. Like your wife, after your kid has fallen into a quarry.
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