Which TORP (or none) should Rangers trade for?

Roy Oswalt
Dan Haren
Zack Greinke
Cliff Lee
None

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Oswalt's too expensive and soon to be on the downturn, two months of Lee aren't worth what it'll take to get him.

Grienke is the only guy I’d consider selling the farm for. Haren would be interesting if he’s cheaper (in terms of prospects) than Grink, but if it takes similar packages to acquire either one, Grink’s the only one I’d consider.

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by LSJ on Jun 13, 2010 10:43 PM CDT reply actions

My thoughts exactly.

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by rooster on Jun 13, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I think Lee might be perfect

If it takes a similar prospect load to get him as Seattle paid.

I have no idea what he’d realistically cost as every time he got traded, I expected a bigger cache of prospects going the other way. But considering cost, contract length, prospects and the draft picks you’d get…it’s really not the worst idea. He’s already shown he can be a No.1 in the playoffs.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jun 14, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions

Haren or Greinke...

but as always, only if the cost in prospects wasn’t too much.

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by slc ranger on Jun 13, 2010 10:47 PM CDT reply actions

all of them

if the price is right

by blueballlefty on Jun 13, 2010 11:13 PM CDT reply actions

I would love to get Haren...

but until the ownership clusterfuck gets taken care of, I don’t think we can afford him. Would love to have Lee but I don’t want the Rangers to give up a couple of prospects for 2+ months of Lee. Don’t want Oswalt and don’t think Greinke would be on the market. In the end, I don’t see the Rangers getting any of these guys this year.

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by coolaid on Jun 14, 2010 12:40 AM CDT reply actions

Greinke

but Perez, Feliz, and Holland cannot be involved. Maybe for Schep, Font, and Harrison?

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by egriffey on Jun 14, 2010 3:17 AM CDT reply actions

One of Perez or Feliz is gonna be involved if you want Grink.

Moore may not understand defense stats, but if he trades Grienke it’ll probably be in an attempt to save hid job, I think.

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on Jun 14, 2010 5:17 AM CDT up reply actions

Greinke's the only one

I would give up a truly top guy (Feliz, Holland, Perez, Schep, Smoak) for. Even then I’d be tenuous… this team’s built for longterm success and I don’t want to sacrifice that. I’d consider doing Holland+Font+Beltre but it would really pain me.

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by Conjunction on Jun 14, 2010 7:43 AM CDT reply actions

Until the ownership changes

I think all of this talk is kind of a waste of time.

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by DJCahill on Jun 14, 2010 8:52 AM CDT reply actions

Yeah...

but most of what we do around here is a waste of time, so why not.

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by slc ranger on Jun 14, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Not half as big a waste as omegle or Jeffwoowoo.

"I think it's funny because everybody wants Ozzie Smith range," Young said. "I want people to show me a guy that has turbo range like that."

by LSJ on Jun 14, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions

Probably.

JD’s done some surprising stuff, though, especially on the front of getting a TORP. He was in on Santana and Greinke before their situations were resolved. He dumped Millwood to bring in Harden.

Since he’s on the record that SP is their main trade interest, I’m guessing he’s already busy working something up and trying to get into the market before everyone else.

And, I can’t see him bringing in a mid-rotation guy. I think they feel they’ve got that filled, and they think what they really need is a Game 1 starter.

So. It probably can’t happen because of economics, but I don’t think it is so unlikely it is dismissable.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Jun 14, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Greinke

Do they consider Perez/Davis/Font/Namirez enough?

If we can give them Davis instead of Smoak, I think this team can part with a young starter as a headliner. Maybe it’s Scheppers, maybe it’s Perez. Who knows where Holland’s at now…

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by hightowersmith on Jun 14, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions

No.

They have Billy Butler.

They’d want talent that’s closer to the majors.

Maybe Perez/Scheppers/Borbon/Erlin

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by GhettoBear04 on Jun 14, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Dan Haren. What's his contract situation?

That’s who I want. I’d trade Martin Perez for him depending on his contract situation. They’d probably like Engel, as well, since the BP podcast mentioned there dearth of high ceiling position players in the system.

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by octoberty on Jun 14, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions

Signed through 2012 with a club option for 2013.

8.25M in 2010
12.75M in 2011, 2012
15.5M club option in 2013

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Jun 14, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Sign me up.

I mean, I think that is affordable for this year, as well, once you prorate it. Will probably only be adding 3 million of that come the trade deadline.

by octoberty on Jun 14, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions

Wow

I didn’t realize the Diamondbacks were doing so poorly. 11.5 back of the Padres, 10 back of 3rd place SF. -63 differential. Their 307 runs scored is 8th in the majors, but they also have the 3rd highest BABIP of any team at .321 (Astros second at .328!).

They’ve allowed 20 more runs than anybody else in baseball (hi Astros!) with 370.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jun 14, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions

I'm beginning to feel like my dream scenario would be:

Rangers trade for Lee — even though I’ve argued against it up to this point, I’m beginning to see how good it could be for the Rangers in the short and long term — with a package of Font or Beavan something interesting at both the Hickory and AZL level. If the M’s pick up Lee’s salary the rest of this season, then the something interesting at AZL can turn into Beltre instead or the Rangers go with Font AND Beavan rather than just Font or Beavan.

Lee departs this offseason for the Nationals, who want to make a big splash to go with Strasburg and Adam Dunn. This nets the Rangers a mid first round pick to go along with their regular pick in the 22-27 slot range. Plus, of course, the compensatory round pick.

Rangers get Purke back with the Nationals’ pick, who will be just a tick behind Font or maybe just a tick ahead on the development path. And, in next year’s draft, Lord knows what type of prospect goodness will slide into the late 1st round and compensatory round.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Jun 14, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions