Thursday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 24, 2010 10:04 AM CDT
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PrintAnd that's ten in a row. Rangers go for 11 and the sweep today.
The S-T's game story is about Elvis Andrus busting out of his slump last night with a big day at the plate.
Chris Cox notes that the Rangers' 13 run explosion came with Josh Hamilton sitting on the bench, a lineup decision that seemed to cause a lot of consternation around here yesterday afternoon.
William Wilkerson's notes in the S-T include updates on Rich Harden and Derek Holland, both of whom are on the d.l.
Tom Grieve is being inducted in the Ranger Hall of Fame.
Anthony Andro writes that Nolan Ryan is still confident about the prospects of his and Chuck Greenberg's group consummating the purchase of the Rangers.
Jennifer Floyd Engel has a column similar to Galloway's yesterday, in which she basically rips Judge Lynn for ruining the chances of making a deal prior to the deadline. Engel basically says it is next to impossible for the sale to happen prior to the trade deadline.
Kevin Sherrington writes that Ron Washington deserves some credit for the Rangers being in first place right now.
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If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Horray RedStrip!
O wait wrong thing
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Richard Justice on Houston radio today (1560AM)
said (per sources) that he’s hearing that once the Rangers sale goes final, Nolan Ryan wants to hire Gerry Hunsicker to be the GM and trade for BOTH Cliff Lee and Roy Oswalt. The thought would be that if you can win a World Series this year, it’s worth every prospect you have.
I personally think Justice is full of shit, but he’s pretty plugged in within the baseball world.
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by willamos2 on Jun 24, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Facepalm
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nordberg!!!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it also makes me hope that the sale doesn't go final until after the July 31st
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by willamos2 on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think JD has done a good job given the lack of financial funds.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I could believe the
part about trading for Oswalt and Lee but i dont think that Ryan would can JD.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i have to agree. i was only partially paying attention at first, and i was like
“Gerry Hunsicker…that would be a pretty good hire”
“WAIT – What about Daniels?!?”
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by willamos2 on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah i dont have a
problem really going for it all and trying to add two big time starters (obviously matters the price though) but would prefer Lee and Haren.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think JD is fine
as long as This Thing doesn’t crater this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So many Josey-isms I can't keep up
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least he said JD
instead of Jonny Donuts.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, that sounds like a mascot, not a person.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
JD
has been given credit from me for doing a good job this off-season / in-season but there’s still work to do.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just threw up
Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.
by octoberty on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe that's true
Ryan doesn’t seem like a sell the entire farm kind of guy. That would be a terrible idea, no way do they need both of those pitchers.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
by t ball on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
63-64
Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.
by octoberty on Jun 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have a hard time believing this
Since this move with the Astros is one of the things that caused Nolan to become disenchanted with the organization.
by rcreative on Jun 24, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope he's wrong.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
That would make for a pretty awkward Newberg Night.
by LiamP on Jun 24, 2010 11:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
More awkward than the post game thread?
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
The National League, a slumpbuster if there ever was one!
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The A's and Blue Jays disagree with you
"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa
by Hard8 on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh my....
that postgame thread was a beating. Just read through it, and was quite…..odd, I will say.
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
was there much consternation over the Angels and Yankees victories?
i don’t have the time to weed through that thread.
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by willamos2 on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes....
LAAAAA sucks, I hate the Angels. Yankees suck and then some guy said the Yanks were going to be ridiculous when Teixeira started hitting again.
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes Fuck the Angels & Fuck Tom Hicks
I mean what doeas this team have to do to catch a break? 10 in a row & only 3 1/2 games up on the damn LAAAAAA Angels. I hate the Angels as much or more than I do the Yankees nowadays. Fuckin Tom Hicks is still going to be the owner this time next year. I wish whebn he was at the game the other day instead of getting booed people had thrown beer on him. Im sorry my rant is over & I feel better now Go Rangers, lets make it 11
by Linedrive222 on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If you think that post-game thread was a beating, you haven't seen too many actually terrible post-game threads
That one was just weird. But entertaining.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
All of the green was the beating.....
and I have seen quite a few post-game threads.
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thankfully the go-green guys got bored and then some entertaining stuff happened after they left
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah....the Harry Potter
sub thread was pretty good and then just random shit like always.
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Claudia stopped by as well.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As she should....her and Gina are a given.
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, Claudia was on vacation with me.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Ban those fools.
That was terrible. I think we need to update the LSB User Guide.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't the right knee the same one Dutch tweaked in the spring?
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
by LSJ on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Is Dutch starting to tuirn into Hurley or McCarthy?
by Linedrive222 on Jun 24, 2010 10:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I would just like
to add “whore” in that directive.
by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Jun 24, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
i still think benching Hamilton may be a dumb move
just because Texas won easily doesn’t mean it won’t be something that cools him off inadvertently.
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by willamos2 on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ugh
come on, that guy needs to be taken care of. You really think one day off is going to just ruin his approach at the plate? (eye roll)
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
by t ball on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously...
we are talking about one of the most fragile player on the team.
"No nuts, no glory"
by coolaid on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rich Harden says eh
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Brandon McCarthy says Rich Harden's injuries are chump change
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ruben Mateo waves from his wheelchair.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eric Hurley yells from surgery
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is suckitis an injury?
"No nuts, no glory"
by coolaid on Jun 24, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
only if your name is Chan Ho Park...
….and the team spends half a year putting you through “rehab assignments” in AAA.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He did have diarrhea
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Chan Ho
had a lot of diarrhea
keep on rockin' in the free world !
by mkassio on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought that you were talking about Nippert for a sec there.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Correcred
we are talking about one of the most fragile player on the team.
by eric03tx on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
McCarthy excluded
I would say the only reason Harden is on the DL is bc he sucks, he isnt really injured.
by eric03tx on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes, he just sucks
the Rangers responded to Rich Harden’s latest disappointing outing by putting the struggling starter on the 15-day disabled list. The move came just a day after he allowed a career-high four home runs, part of six runs he surrendered
Frustration was building among the fan base and among the media about Harden and it also had to be mounting with his teammates and with team officials.
no one said anything about an injury until they needed to fake one to get rid of him
by sam in so cal on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We should insist he thow breaking stuff again
If his arm breaks, whatever (is that irresponsible?)
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So...
The cortisone shot was fake as well?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
It was probably real.
But that’s not really anything. I could get a cortisone shot right now and it wouldn’t really do anything.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
So it's not that he got a fake shot.
It’s that cortisone itself is fake?
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
So...
Harden is faking an injury, the team is complicit in it, and to fool the media, Harden agreed to get a cortisone shot he didn’t need?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 24, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Correct
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I'm not saying I beleive it
but isn’t it possible that the team came to Harden and said you have an injury and this is what it is? Now sit your ass on the “DL” and “get better” because that’s what’s best for the team.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
If that's the case...
…why has he been shut down, got an MRI, got a cortisone shot, and being treated like he’s injured?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what makes it so clever!
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
To make it look like he really is.
He’s not hurt.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I dunno
I just have a hard time believing he is really injured, or at least injured to the point he needs to be on the DL. If he hadn’t been so awful, I think this is the type of regular soreness or minor pain someone plays through. We had been talking for weeks leading up to him getting DL’d about how they would put him on the DL if he continued to suck. Shortly after another crappy performance, there he is on the DL.
And you shouldn't act like the all knowing authority on things which you know nothing about.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I'm hardly all knowing
And I definitely think that he could have played through this if he were pitching better.
However, you’re claiming that medically licensed physicians are risking their license (by giving Cortisone shot to someone not in pain) for an unnecessary cover-up.
Teams place players on the DL for performance reasons all the time without insisting on unethical medical procedures
Why?
Your body produces cortisone naturally, it’s not a big deal. And an MRI doesn’t do anything for me either. These guys are professional athletes, they all deal with soreness and inflammation of some sort. I bet you could run just about any one of them through an MRI and find something to call an “injury”.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
You're not very good at this medicine thing.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
They DL him.
They run him through an MRI to see if there is some kind of injury. They find some kind of very mild sprain/inflammation/something and give him a cortisone shot to treat said “injury”. Completely plausible.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I really do
totally agree. We had ALL talked about them finding some minor injury and then putting him on the DL bc he was so bad. That is exactly what happened. He would be playing through this if he was playing well this year, no doubt.
with that said
I do believe he has some sort of injury. I don’t think they would risk dl’ing him without there be something to point a finger to. I’m no expert, but I dont think it takes much to have plausible cause to put someone on the DL.
Exactly.
I believe there is technically something there that they can point to and call an “injury”, but make no mistake about it. Performance is why is is not playing right now.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Ok...so what you're saying is
A player who has a diagnosable injury has been put on the DL where he received treatment for said injury. What’s the problem here?
Seems like that’s a perfectly good use of the DL. That it isn’t his shoulder exploding doesn’t mean that he isn’t injured or that it wasn’t affecting his performance in some way.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
wow
I had just typed a huge response and lost it. Great.
What I was saying though is that is acceptable, but I think this is a case related to his performance. I think the injury is just something the Rangers can site so they don’t face any scrutiny from the league. If he was pitching better, I think he pitches through any pain. This was a forced move by the Rangers than Harden saying “I can’t go, I’m injured”
Mmmm
Let’s put our medical license in danger because the Rangers want to DL somebody and need us to cover up with a publicized cortisone shot.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
This sort of thing happens often
don’t pretend it does not. It does not jeopardize a medical license to overtreat/overwork-up a minor injury. If he were pitching well and it was playoff time then Harden continues to start as usual.
I just don't think they make stuff up
Which seemed to be what some people were asserting. Do they downplay some injuries and hype up others? Probably. I just don’t see that as much of an issue because so much of it varies from patient to patient.
I take offense to the idea that they would be doing something wrong. I get that their are shady doctors, but I don’t think we should assume that all team doctors are.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Serious question
How do we know he got a cortisone shot? Because the team said so?
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
This could also be true.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
JD said it in today's ESPN chat
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a guess, but maybe
to keep the MLBPA or MLB from going nuts since you can’t put a player on the DL for sucking.
Aren't there long-term risks if you have too many of those?
Like weakening cartilage and stuff? I wouldn’t agree to have one just to help the team fake an injury…
It's incredibly unethical for the doctors, first of all
Secondly, teams declare “injured” pitchers all the time without lying to the media or giving unneeded shots. Call it fatigue if you need that
And there's no reason to make up an injury for a pitcher
Any MLB pitcher has enough wear and tear on their arm that they could be put on the DL at anytime without having to make something up.
by northtexan95 on Jun 24, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't buy this
If you are or have been a team doctor at any point and have looked at enough MRIs to say this, then fine. But I don’t think you are.
I know that team doctors get a bad reputation and all, and they almost certainly come closer to the edge than a normal family practice doctor, but they’re not running around giving guys cortisone shots just because the team says they have to or making injuries up. If they did, other teams would file grievances and such.
It takes a certain amount of inflammation to warrant a cortisone shot. I don’t think that ‘convenience’ is a good enough reason to assume that the team doctors are fudging the MRI’s in order to give a cortisone shot so the Rangers can put somebody on the DL.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
If they did, other teams would file grievances and such
I would imagine all teams do this sort of thing. That’s why you don’t see grievances.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
MRIs show the soft tissue makeup. They will show you basically any sort of sprain/inflammation/etc… no matter how big or small. An MLB pitcher (and probably any other pro athlete I bet) can go through an MRI at any given time and have SOMETHING show up. I really don’t think it’s that far fetched to believe this could be the case.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Have you ever look at an MRI?
Do you really think the options are inflammation warranting cortisone shot or no inflammation?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
What is your expertise on this subject.
What do you do for a living? I am not certified to be anything in the medical field but I have taken a few classes and have a basic understanding of how an MRI works and what it can show you.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Medical student
Who’s spent a little time on Radiology in addition to learning how to read them in Anatomy.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Bout the same here.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Then you should know better.
Just because it’s a somewhat plausible explanation doesn’t mean it’s the most likely one.
Radiologists have to be able to discern between levels of inflammation, not all of it warrants a cortisone shot (which does have side effects that have to be considered, especially in a sport like baseball), and I really don’t think pitchers go all year with inflammation that requires a steroid shot.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Radiologists don't decide
who gets the corticosteroid and who does not. The orthopedist does. And they are doled out to pro athletes like candy.
Right
I didn’t mean to say they’re the one deciding the treatment, just that they’re often the ones who usually report on varying levels of inflammation.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Practicing radiologist
and the comment that MRI picks up on subtleties is absolutely correct. I’d wager that half of the Ranger pitching staff would have subtle abnormalities on their MRI if you lined them up at the scanner today.
by texasdoc on Jun 24, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BOOM.
Thank you sir.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
No that was me, scroll up and read again.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
No, it wasn't.
You said any pitcher would have “something” show up as if that “something” would always justify a shot and the DL. GhettoBear said “Do you really think the options are inflammation warranting cortisone shot or no inflammation?” and that “not all of it warrants a cortisone shot.”
Wrong.
I’m done arguing with you people on this. If texasdoc wants to reply to you and tell you whose comment he was referring when he was talking about subtleties showing up in MRIs then he can. I was right, and everybody who was arguing with me and saying I was a dumbass was wrong.
Here’s what I wrote:
MRIs show the soft tissue makeup. They will show you basically any sort of sprain/inflammation/etc… no matter how big or small. An MLB pitcher (and probably any other pro athlete I bet) can go through an MRI at any given time and have SOMETHING show up. I really don’t think it’s that far fetched to believe this could be the case.
It’s really not hard to see who the radiologist is agreeing with here if you just read the exchange.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
x
I didn’t ever say that MRIs weren’t very sensitive, they definitely are.
I did question how much inflammation would show up on an average pitcher at any given time, I really didn’t know the answer to that and wanted a better source-no offense to you, but it’s a theory that seems to be widely held and yet I had never seen any evidence for it. A radiologist would qualify as a better source, as texasdoc did when he said most pitchers would have subtle abnormalities.
I’m still not sure that this qualifies as being able to DL a pitcher and give him a cortisone shot any time you feel like he isn’t performing as you like. It probably happens to some degree, some overtreatment as we were talking about below, but I think what you were suggesting is a lot closer to lying/dishonest practice than just a gray area.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It's cool GhettoBear, I understand where you're coming from.
Like I said, I’m no professional on this and admitted so. But that kind of stuff definitely does go on, and in this case what I’m suggesting is really not as big of a deal as it’s being made out to be.
It’s just annoying when somebody that wasn’t even part of our conversation comes in and tries to tell me who said what. No biggie though, you were right about some stuff, and so was I.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Slurpees?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Enough to warrant a steroid shot?
I’m assuming from your other point that they would. I trust your opinion on it as I haven’t looked at lots of athlete’s MRI’s.
I still don’t like the assumption that the Rangers docs are doing something wrong here just for the Rangers FO convenience. From the other stuff I wrote, I think you can see my point that they had to have something show up on the MRI that they then ‘treated’.
In other words, there’s a difference between possibly overtreating and potentially lying/mistreating.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a fine line indeed
as you say. I don’t think anyone is lying. I’m sure Harden’s ass hurts. It’s been ridden since April with good reason.
Harden's injury was real
he was scheduled to see a Houston sports specialist about it before he hit the DL. Now Tommy Hunter’s “injury” was another matter
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
Wow...
If it’s not anything, why are their limits on how often you can get them?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
One freaking cortisone shot isn't going to hurt you.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
It's not like taking an advil either
There’s side effects, especially from getting too many.
I don’t really see your issue here. They found inflammation on an MRI and are treating it with a cortisone shot and put him on the DL for it. Yes, some player can play through that. It seems obvious that Harden can not.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
So
Do you think he’s had this inflammation since the start of ST?
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Really have no idea
Could be something that he did in spring training (or previous to it) and he took it easy and it got better, then some incident caused a flare up. There’s so many possible options here that I think we should resist resorting to underhandedness as an explanation.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying it is anything underhanded.
You can put somebody on the DL without really having a “reason”. Things like fatigue, etc… They probably put him on the DL for his performance, gave him an MRI to make sure there was nothing wrong with him, found a minor inflammation/strain/something, and treated it with a cortisone injection. It works two ways. (1) If this is what was causing him to suck so bad, they treated it and maybe it gets better. (2) It gives them something to point to if the league gets suspicious and decides to investigate.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Eh?
(2) It gives them something to point to if the league gets suspicious and decides to investigate.
I’m not saying it is anything underhanded.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it was.
But the league can’t prove it. Either way this is getting out of hand. Bottom line:
1. Harden sucked.
2. The Rangers DL him.
3. They give him an MRI.
4. They find some kind of sprain/inflammation/other injury.
5. They treat said injury with a cortisone injection.
That simple. We can go round and round on the reasons or whatever all day. That’s what happened.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
I read this as something dirty and got a terrible mental image.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
when I heard
that he had a strained Glute, I was thinking to myself, “I’d have a strained Glute too if someone repeatedly kicked my ass for pitching like shit.”
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jun 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
are you contending that he was actually injured and as a result of that injury sent to the dl?
1. how long has he been “injured”? he has been horrible for three months, dating back to spring training. why choose now to go on the dl?
2. is this an “injury” that most players (performing with some modicum of success) would have played through?
i think much more likely is that while he’s not playing (as a result of being removed due to performance), he can get tretament for his various ailments – cortisone shots, manicure, haircut, etc…
harden was failing with great consistency, and i find it very interesting that there’s no word of his “injury” until the team, the front office and the fans reached a breaking point
by sam in so cal on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Joseyish
bullshit.
You don’t like the guy, we get it, but stop making stuff up.
by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Jun 24, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think the front office/fan reaction played a large role in this
But even if it did, it was because they were frustrated with his performance. I just don’t think you can so easily attack the guy for this.
He’s a guy with a history of injury, one that probably fights it because he’s constantly trying to set up a multiyear contract, and hasn’t been good this year. Why is it so unreasonable to think he was trying to pitch through some minor injuries, couldn’t do it, and then went to the DL?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm just copying and pasting...
two quotes appear upthread, but here’s the entire article with lots of references to how much he sucks and the resulting frustration – fans, media, players, team
http://tinyurl.com/hardenjustsucks
to whiskey’s point, i haven’t lied about anything or “made stuff up.” i said he sucks (no lie there), and i made an observation about that the timing of his injury – certainly nothing along the lines of what others in this thread are alleging.
by sam in so cal on Jun 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh
He’s high variance. Probably worth the risk, but it obviously hasn’t worked out this year.
There’s a decent argument that Vlad and Colby fell into the same category at the beginning of the year. CJ, Kinsler, Hamilton, Borbon, Ogando, Scheppers as well.
Sometimes it works out, sometimes it explodes into a shower of cortisone shots.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Get some balls
and own up to it dude.
by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Jun 24, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
This
is stupid
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well Well Well...
Hamilton said late Wednesday that his hamstring had tightened up from running the bases so much lately.
"No nuts, no glory"
by coolaid on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hamstring injuries the new TOS?
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol
from running the bases so much lately
The burden of a 500+ OBP
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those horrible
Home run trots can take soooo much out of you….
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
by iblum on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's what I was thinking
“geez, skip…my fucking legs are killing me because all I do is run around the bases constantly now. Also, I think I might’ve strained my shoulder from all of those times I’ve had to come out of the duggout to tip my cap to the crowd after smashing another homer.”
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
So, wait a second...
You mean maybe Wash wasn’t an idiot for resting Hamilton last night?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Stupid
lucky Angels. Of course they miss Jimenez too when we faced weak Milwaukee and Marlins we drew each of their very good aces. Won both those games.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
if Josh comes back tonight and goes 0-fer with three strikeouts
there will be a lot more than consternation around here.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
he's not...
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
During the 14-game win streak in 1991..
Rangers held opponents to less than three runs twice.
During the 2010 10-game win streak….
Rangers have allowed more than three runs only twice.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
by rooster on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The times they are a changing
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BEST TEAM in the MLB?
This is not some streak for weird-streak sake. Yes, it helps to play Houston and Pittsburgh. But, we are still so damn good right now. Our trade, draft, and throw-a-bunch of prospects against the wall has worked. Our budget is for shit, and we’re very close to the top of the MLB.
"I wish to believe. But my belief is a graveyard." - Charles Bukowski
by 3Bagger on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Rangers are doing exactly what you'd expect a great team to do to the Pirates and Astros
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That run of bases loades singles last night was kind of hilarious.
Not really what I wanted to see (wanted a HR or bases clearing double), but still. Nice work.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was just teamwork
Let everyone get an RBI.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Teamwork FTW!
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Granted, you're right
But, it’s not hard for a great team to lose one game in a series to a terrible team
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
See the sweep of Boston a couple of years back.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great teams destroy bad teams...
Exactly! That was what encouraged me so much. Plus, our bull pen is so solid. When we started hitting? Look out. I am too giddy. I better get off LSB now, I might annoy every to death.
"I wish to believe. But my belief is a graveyard." - Charles Bukowski
by 3Bagger on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is heaven!
Remember that book, Summer of ’49?
Someone will need to write, “Summer of 2010.”
Story Line: Broke owner, an overrated Nolan Ryan, a kid named JD, a coach who is loved by his players but mocked by most…
And a Playoff run! (I’m giddy, I can’t help it.)
"I wish to believe. But my belief is a graveyard." - Charles Bukowski
by 3Bagger on Jun 24, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Also
Right-hander Brandon McCarthy has also been shut down again in Oklahoma City because of right shoulder stiffness. Right-hander Eric Hurley had a third surgery on his left hand Wednesday, and will not begin throwing for six to eight weeks. A screw was inserted in each of the first two tries, but both times the screw began to back out of Hurley’s hand.
Sigh.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
by LSJ on Jun 24, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
McCarthy just got back from his injury? right?
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
by LSJ on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome to yesterday
Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.
by octoberty on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well...
I am not concerned about McCarthy……….it has been proven that he has a vagina, so he can screw off.
That sucks about Hurley though….
by death of the cool on Jun 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So basically two lost years for hurley....
awesome.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Made all the more frustrating by it being HIS FREAKING NON-PITCHING HAND!!!!!
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
cut that thing off.........
and go Jim Abbott on their ass.
by death of the cool on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was fascinated by Jim Abbott
when I was a kid. Him, and the drummer from Def Leppard.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nub fetish?
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
by Texas Jihad on Jun 24, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Hurley is screwed
McCarthy is just plain fucked.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
by t ball on Jun 24, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha.. screwed!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If either ever has to be on the 40 man roster again
it is time to cut then at that point. Neither will make it back to the big leauges or contribute.
by Linedrive222 on Jun 24, 2010 10:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
tired of you
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
So am I
but he is right here. Giving a fuck about Hurley or McCarthy is a waste of time. Both will be well out of our control if either ever become productive in the majors.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
slowly we're turning Hurley into a robot.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
can he call balls and strikes
by death of the cool on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
He'd probably throw his shoulder out doing that
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We are going to put his brain into a robot body!
“The penalty for harming a human shall be…one thousand years, frozen in CARBONITE!”
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hurley
The new McCarthy? Man I wish he could just be healthy and a legitimate option out of AAA for long man/spot starter…
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hurley
Is the new Thomas Diamond.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
by LSJ on Jun 24, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
For some reason I thought Hurley had been around longer than Diamond, same draft.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
someone needs to give Hurley one of those lock washer things to keep the screw in his hand
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
I hate the Angels
even more than I hate their fans.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
well look at it this way........
The Angels have been getting as lucky as a team can get, yet they are still 3 and 1/2 games out….
what happens when their luck evens out….
by death of the cool on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
welcome to the Scioscia era of Angel baseball
The Angels have been getting as lucky as a team can get, … what happens when their luck evens out
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No joke
We’ve said literally that same thing for like four seasons now
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And sadly the same thing keeps happening
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Call me a sucker
But I’m betting there will be another drop-off for the Angels after the ASB. The LA fellating sports world (ESPN, I’m looking at you) thinks the beginning of the season was an anomaly and that LA will reclaim their “rightful” place atop the AL West.
But this is not a good team. Maybe our beloved Rangers are overachieving, but it’s nothing like what those fuckfaces over in Anaheim are doing.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jun 24, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
IT NEVER EVENS OUT
Unless you count the unfortunate deaths like Adenhart and that dude who got murdered in the stands a couple of years ago.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pythar record of 36-38
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So that's when Scoiscia's contract runs out?
Whew. I was thinking it ran longer than that.
I hate the Dodgers too.
Bunch of idiots.
"No nuts, no glory"
by coolaid on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have you read any Rev Halofan stuff?
It’s hard to hate anyone more than that moron.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
And I saw his videoblog.
It’s a close call.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
by Conjunction on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He came over here last night
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
For what?
To jackass it up? AJM should ban him. Taste of his own DoucheMedicine.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Somebody said he found his house or some such,
but mainly to jackass it up.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
iblum and mike9 poked the hornet's nest over there
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Ah I try to avoid the stupid zone
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
What did he have to say?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Well, ok.
I really hate Hitler. He’s probably #1.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
1A...
Tom Hicks
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point
Pol Pot only murdered people
Hicks murders dreams (and similarly, drafts and trade deadlines)
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That needs to be a sig for somebody
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
That reminds me of a Sylvester Stallone quote
Something like, “You are going to be in pain for the rest of your life, about 5 more minutes.”
Must have been a Rambo movie or something.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
The war is over. Let the healing begin....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a tuffy...
can’t I hate them equally as much?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
i wonder why no one in the D/FW media
if following up on this 9MM a year for Nolan claim.
USA
by Longhorn on Jun 24, 2010 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Because
Nolan Ryan has threatened to “Robin Ventura” their families if they do not.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No onequestions Nolan Ryan in DFW.....
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
actually, no one outside of Galloway maybe
questions anything on anyone.
USA
by Longhorn on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, about 10-15 times more.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if he trades our farm for Oswalt and Lee?
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Front Office Dumbassery
ended for the most part in February 2008.
Nolan is 64 years old and is in this to win championships at the major league level.
It’s JD’s job to stock the farm system and what everybody needs to remember is that having the best minor league system two years running doesn’t mean shit if you can’t make serious runs at titles.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we can get Oswalt and Lee
And we only touch minor leaguers (as in not Smoak, Holland, Feliz)
I could live with dealing Perez and Scheppers
However, I think it’d be better use of our prospects to go hard after Haren and trust our staff a little more
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you're getting both
you’re probably dealing Hunter to make room in the rotation.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Our prospects
probably aren’t going to be ready for The Show until 2012 and then it will take some time to hit their prime. Our current best players will be too old or won’t be here when those prospects are ready.
The future is now and the vaunted Window of Opportunity is open.
Be reasonable but go for it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
IF money is available
im okay making a deal however i will be very upset if we have to include better prospects than necessary because we need the other team to pick up part of the salary.
Im all for going after Lee and after Haren.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I lean towards Oswalt because
he would be here thru 2011 (which is when we need to reassess our chances).
If we get Lee, he’s gone after this year and we’re probably gonna need the bad-ass starter to make a run next year which means coughing up more prospects.
I also think there’s a chance Oswalt reconsiders retirement and stays with the Rangers & Nolan Ryan if the team is a contender.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
That is why i think
they need to go after Lee and Haren.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Prospects won't be ready until 2012?
Prospects like Andrus, Feliz, Smoak, Holland, Borbon, Max? Those were prospects as recently as this spring. All were acquired by Daniels before Ryan arrived, and all are contributing right now to a first place major league ballclub.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Have you figured which types of teams
have long runs of dominance?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
Very random. Have any examples?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure
The Yankees of the late 90s were mostly homegrown, the Braves have had a top system much of the last two decades, the Rays right now, the Dodgers have been in contention the last several years after having one of the top systems earlier in this decade, the As strong run a few years back was built on their minor league system, the Angels had a highly ranked system a few years ago and they’ve been strong contenders all the while.
I really just don’t see how you could even doubt that point. Teams that have the top minor league systems become contenders very soon after that. Go learn something and look it up.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
x
I really just don’t see how you could even doubt that point. Teams that have the top minor league systems become contenders very soon after that
I thought that was just an understood fact of baseball.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
It is
unless you’re Josey trying to disparage Daniels.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
If you wanna disparage JD
all you have to do is look at his track record of incompetence from October 2005-2008.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
Let's go thru a few of these...
The Yankees of the late 90’s were built on the foundation of Jeter, Posada, Rivera, Pettitte, Williams (21-27 years old) and they also had money to spend and a very competent front office. The key to the Yankee success was building around a core of great young players.
The Braves ….Big three were 25-27 years of age in ’93. In ’96 they had the Big 3 (27-29 years old) AND Dye, Chipper, Klesko, Andruw Jones, Javy Lopez who were all between 19-25 years of age.
Tampa ’08 – Longoria, Crawford, Upton, Zorilla (all between 22-27 years old).
When you look at this morning’s DMN at the OKC & Frisco boxscores, you don’t see any every day players in those line-ups who are going to be stars in The Show.
That’s why (our best players are 28-34 years old)I’ve been saying the next two years (we’ll see about 2012) are our best chance.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
Why would you look to the minor leagues?
The Rangers – Elvis, Kinsler, Feliz, Holland, Smoak (all between 21-27 yrs old) AND Hamilton, Cruz, and Face
So you agree with me, then.
Good. The players that Daniels acquired are all over the current roster, the same names you dismissed regularly. Face it, talent acquisition is priority number one for a GM, and Daniels and his scouts are very good at it. And again, all of those players were acquired before Ryan arrived, during the 2005-08 period you love to reference. Daniels made a lot of key moves during that time that have resulted in a winning ball club entering a serious contention window.
Ryan being here would be meaningless if Daniels hadn’t acquired those players. Ryan and Daniels make a good team, but the attitude Ryan tries to impart wouldn’t mean much if the players didn’t have tons of talent to go with it.
As for the AAA and AA rosters not having guys in the lineup to get excited about — meh. The major league club is filled with a lot of young guys in the lineup with few positions needing to be replenished over the next couple of years.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Wait...
So all the young players JD acquired in the draft and by trade during those years don’t come up and help the Rangers win right away? That’s crazy talk.
The failures of those seasons are just as much, if not more so, on the previous front office as much as the current one. That’s part of rebuilding a team. It takes time. And now that it’s here, instead of just enjoying it, one would rather make up a bunch of bullshit to further push their agenda? It’s pretty funny actually.
Look at all the great young players helping this team win right now. How many of those guys were acquired by JD? End of argument.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Definitely
We’re paying the team 65 million, but Nolan himself is worth 135 million.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Money has no meaning to Ryan
his currency is snow monkeys and ass kickings
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Engel talks about the NY Daily News story
Just not that part of it.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A trade target we haven't discussed
Toronto is apparently willing to sell pitchers.
Any chance we can pry Ricky Romero? If not, Shaun Marcum is a poor man’s Ricky Romero, and I’d take him.
I’m fairly confident we could get Marcum without any of the Pentagon
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Id have to think that Romero
is pretty untouchable. Still only 25. I dont think we could get him without giving up Perez plus some other really nice pieces (Scheppers as well) because if Perez had the same season at 25 that Romero is having now we would all be ecstatic.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As long as its his 3rd season with those type of numbers :)
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just looked at Perez's start yesterday
NOW that is just plain dealing. That was his first start after his worst of his career right? Makes me want to trade him even less.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You said it
7 innings 0 runs, 3 hits 1 walk 6 k’s 82 pitches. 10 ground balls to only 4 fly balls.
damn…..
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Romero would be great
But he is something they would want to build around, I would think.
by eric03tx on Jun 24, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Marcum does ish for me.
Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.
by octoberty on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why would they trade Romero?
Marcum is good but he can be neutralized by RHH.
"No nuts, no glory"
by coolaid on Jun 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure they aren't seeking to trade him
But you can always pistol-whip a team… esp if Tor sees their window of opportunity not coming about for another 2-3 years
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the correct spelling it Window of Opportunity
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The beat goes on...
my gosh, the NL sucks and we get another game v Pittsburgh, 3 v Houston and 7 games v the Tribe & O’s before the AS Break.
A lot of things have come together this year…soak it up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You are forgetting the 3 with the Dbags from LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, I'm quite aware we're playing
the Angels next week. There are also 3 more games v the White Sox (and they’re playing better now).
I think 11-6 before the AS Break is most do-able and that puts us at 54-34 going into the second half.
Play .500 the rest of the way and that gives you 91 wins.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jun 24, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
His heart grew three sizes this day
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
What is the interleague record now?
As of last weekend, AL was like 20 games over .500 vs. the NL.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's unbelievable how favorable our schedule has been
Apart from the run of aces we had earlier this season, it’s been a perfect storm for our breakout year.
by BuckyB on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True and
for once (knock on wood) the Rangers are taking advantage. I still would love one more starter but i dont think that is going to happen.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Cowboys should take notes
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
This, this, this, and THIS for good measure. Great teams put the wood to the basement-dwellers of the league.
The Cowboys always play to the level of their competition.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jun 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't you remember what they always say about the NFL....
“on any given sunday” any team can be beat or however that line goes.
JFE had a column similar to Galloway's
What are the odds?!?!?!?!?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Julio Borbon how has as many walks as stolen bases on June 23rd.
if you would have said in Spring Training—-Borbon would have as many walks as stolen bases on June 23rd…I would have been pretty happy with that. Maybe not “ecstatic” but happy expecting him to have mid 20’s or so given his pace last year (19SB through 179 plate appearances)
Too bad it’s only…8 walks and 8 stolen bases
Glad to see him turning it around this month!
by Doc Mabee on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
According to Onley he would be player of the month if not for Hamilton.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well hopefully
he is working with Pettis overtime to learn when to go and how to read pitchers a little more effectively.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was glancing at Julio's numbers this morning
6 walks in his last 12 games, 2 through his first 52 (!)
Progress!
Are the Rangers going to need a fifth starter
Before the all star break? Tired
by texasraider on Jun 24, 2010 10:23 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Yes
once against the White Sox and once against the Orioles.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, it had better not be Nippert
If you’re going to have to pitch Harrison 3 innings on his starts why not just let Harrison have the rotation slot, DFA Nippert, and bring up Phillips to be a LOOGY.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Kellin Deglan threw out 2 of 3 would-be base-stealers last night
The 40 is going to get crowded when he and Alfaro are both ready for a call-up after the All-Star Break.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 24, 2010 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
AFTER the all star break?
Being a bit conservative huh?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Went to the game
last night… lady in front of me asked why saltalamacchia wasnt playing… I just chugged my beer and kept my mouth shut.. Im a better fan on the couch.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You know
I think going to sporting events is highly overrated, myself. You’re inevitably going to wind up spending way more money than you’d planned on shit you and your cholesterol level don’t need, all while having to deal with massive crowds literally everywhere – the parking lots, the seats and the restrooms (unless you’re going to Marlins game, anyway). Plus, perhaps most importantly, you can’t dial up to Fangraphs to prove the yokel next to you wrong when he tries to tell you Michael Young is a gold glove defender.
I guess the main reason people go to the games is for the atmosphere and the rah-rah experience of getting to scream and yell. But if you’re like me and you get into the game more by watching the feed and being able to switch between the box score and Fangraphs every pitching change, going to the game seems rather pointless.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
by LSJ on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
SURPRISE
You dislike something! I NEVER WOULD’VE GUESSED IT.
by vfn on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with him....
there are some real dumbasses that go to games either trying to impress their date, girlfriend, or buddies that don’t know anything about sports.
It's eveywhere too
Even Yankee Stadium and Fenway where the fans are supposedly “more educated”.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I live in maine and everyone is a sox fan
the thing about sox fans is they know their team and nothing absolutely nothing about any other teams or players.
by mainiac1717 on Jun 24, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I get as annoyed by the idiots as anyone, but the idiots cannot take away the joy of watching a baseball game in person from me
The crack of the bat, the beauty of the diamond, the joy of watching the beautiful, intricate parts of the game.
How could anyone not like to go to the park? I am flummoxed.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 24, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
this
I like stats as much as the next guy, but there’s nothing like attending a good baseball game in person. I went to a couple playoff games in the 90s, and it was awesome.
The main drawback for me is the damn heat. If we had a retractable roof, I’d be there at least once a week. Thankfully, playoff games don’t happen in August.
What's not to love about 95+ heat
when you’re sitting in the non-shaded seats?
Heh, that’s the part I hate.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
Everytime I walk into a stadium and you first see the grass – that’s great. You just sit back in your seat, relax, catch some sun and take it all in.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
This!
I can’t explain it. I love that feeling of walking through the short tunnel and seeing the whole field and crowd and sky
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't be the *only* person who is capable of *not* spending money on stupid stuff at sporting events.
And actually, I can dial up fangraphs or whatever on my phone. :D
Going to a game is like watching in HD*a billion. Especially for something like hockey or football, where there are way more little details/fast action than baseball.
Josh had tight hamstring
That’s why he took the day off according to ESPN dallas
by texasraider on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Noooooooooooooo!
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
by Lisa W on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, I was hoping for a day game today....
slow day at work.
by trav1102 on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
All right who is rec'ing everything?
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
not again...
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing is green, but I accidentally refreshed and several 1 rec's at the top
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yup...see that as well...
ugh…
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going through people's profiles...
looking for those who have long streaks of “Recommended…”
by cmkelly29 on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
There really needs to be something like a popdown list
That will tell you who has recced a comment. People should be held accountable for the recs.
OC just might win his crusade against “+1” if we had that.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
OC's crusades meh
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I can't wait for the Angels
The only way to put some distance between us is to just beat them like they deserve.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
OT: Just went to Radio Shack to see if they had any Iphones, because I’ve been seeing ads everywhere. The guy said they were given two to sell to customers, and they were both already reserved.
What the fuck is the point of that?
by JayKim41 on Jun 24, 2010 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Isn't it "The Shack" now?
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that failed.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Probably cause it's in Ft. Worth!
Burrrnnnn.
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
/Rangers100
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Give me Fort Worth over Dallas
any day from now until the end of time…
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
If you're in Ft. Worth, it only feels like it's the end of the world!
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd still take that over a
pseudo-cosmopolitan, New York City wannabe
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
To which Ft. Worth plays...
…New Jersey!
by FuturePants on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I just had an instant gut feeling.........
that we are getting Cliff Lee.
I think Daniels purposely went cheap on the draft to save a few million of budget money to make it possible….
by death of the cool on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Gut feeling, huh?
Channeling your inner Ron?
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Quick thoughts:
A) even before the slaughter started, I agreed with giving Josh a day off
B) If we get Elvis and Borbon on the bases near a 40% clip, we’re going to be pretty damn hard to beat
C) Unlike most here, I’d rather see Harden back in a week or two. I think that, if it’s true that the glute was hurting all along, and he wasn’t hiding it from the team, we can expect production out of him.
D) I agree that Ron Washington deserves credit. Not all of the credit, or even most of it, but once again unlike most on here, I’m happier to have Ron as our manager than what we had before him. He isn’t perfect, but he’s simply getting the job done. Sure, lately against weak competition, but this is still pretty historical – and we DID take 2 of 3 from the Rays to start their slide.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Who is the assclown that's rec'ing every comment?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
by TXHC on Jun 24, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't know...but they should be banned....
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought it might be hedowhathedo, but nope
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Either he's gotten a sock puppet
Or it’s some lurking Angels/M’s fan.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
I have a feeling the rec level will be going up
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Because it's becoming an annoying meme
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
See my note below..
I don’t understand the correlation, but it’s only a problem for me on these two heavily-rec’ed threads…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Because it's dumb.
There’s a couple of rogue n00bs around here that wanted to make a green thread and were told it wasn’t the appropriate time for one, and they were told when the appropriate time would be (something pretty much everybody who is a regular here agrees on). Now they’re trying to be defiant and turn every damn thread green. It’s childish and stupid.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Couldn't have said it better myself.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
to each his own
I mean it’s pretty childish, yes, and it’s stupid, but so are a lot of other things we let fly on this board. Just find out who it is and chastise them. No need for panties in a wad
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 24, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Who keeps rec'ing every effing post
No green threads until the Sale is done or we make the playoffs.
FWIW, the rec'ing is screwing up my ctrl-z
I have to leave the thread and re-enter to see new posts. It’s only happening in this thread and last night’s postgame.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
70-68
Isner
Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.
no way...finally
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't one of them (or both) playing doubles also?
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
That match was so amazing
there is nothing you can compare it in any sports except for maybe the Ironman.
"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote
Was that a basketball game heh
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
heh
Endy Chavez started his rehab assignment yesterday with a couple of singles, a walk, and 2 steals. Are we still in a rush to replace Borbon with him?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Bench bat
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Nah, we've got Arias
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
HAH
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
Darn the lack of effective sarcasm
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Duck the Fodgers
I mean, seriously, Los Angeles, what the hell?? 5 out 5 losses to the Angels?
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jun 24, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions
Don't you think the Angels will be saying the same type stuff about the Astros after this weekend?
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
the Astros suck
the Dodgers are a good team that forgets how to play baseball against the Angels.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
But the Disastros are TERRIBLE
The Dodgers are an above-average club.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jun 24, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Dodgers
If the Angels were playing the Pirates, or the Astros or Orioles or Mariners, then I’d just shrug and go “thems the breaks.”
But the Dodgers are a better team than the Angels, or at LEAST an equal-caliber team. 0-5 is just pathetic.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jun 24, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
and the way the dodgers failed in that game
shows how lucky the Angels are. What were they thinking in the 9th. Video here if you haven’t seen it. I get so pissed when the Angels win like this.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
couple of things
1) the pick off at second looked clearly like a balk to me. he started his motion, stopped, and then threw to second.
2) the throw into second that ended the game was late. the runner was safe diving back into the bag. (though it was close).
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
You are totally right
That is a balk. You cant hop on your leg like when executing that swinging gate towards second.
And yes Martin was safe at second.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jun 24, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe they'll run south in a hurry and trade us
Billingsley
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 24, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I just read on Roto-Wire that Josh sat out yesterday due to a tight hamstring
I thought we were all told it was just a normal rest day, “it was his turn” this is from espn,
“Hamilton missed Wednesday’s game because of a tight hamstring, ESPN.com reports.
Spin:
Hamilton doesn’t believe that the injury will be an issue going forward. Be sure to check the Rangers’ lineup on Thursday to see if he’s in it.”
But.. did he get a real contisone shot???
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 24, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's cortisone, not contisone.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
OOOh, spelling lessons - the LA Clippers of retorts...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
No, there's information on the injection itself too.
Since people don’t seem to know what the hell they’re talking about.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
He took 40
Because he’s dense for his height.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
This is exciting
I’m already looking forward to Rally GoldenHairJD
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 24, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope he goes red and black leopard
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 24, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That can't be possible
The room hates JD.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 24, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
these superfluous recs...
have we found who’s responsible for this?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Anyone see Joe Maddon get kicked out today?
It was hilarious. Then the Rays answer it by turning a 6-5-4 double play. It looks better than it sounds. You’ll have to see it.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
The Rangers have won ten games in row?
What?
What a world we live in.
Also…
balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk fuck the angels balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk balk
by ghostofErikThompson on Jun 24, 2010 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I fucking hate the Angels
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Goddamn it
This is the kind of magic pull-a-win-out-of-your-ass bullshit the Angels thrive on. Fuck the Dodgers, too. Weak ass (@#$(#$(#U$#$ing gargh!
Yeah, that’s a biggety balk. Third out was equally bad. Rivera’s throw did NOT beat him there.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jun 24, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
you sound like a chicken
an angry, insane chicken
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Son of a bitch
dkaplanSBJ
Breaking News: Federal judge postpones key TX Rangers bankruptcy hearing from July 9 to July 22, and schedules July 16 mediation
dkaplanSBJ
The judge’s postponement would seem to make closing team sale by MLB July 31 trade deadline unlikely; more in SBD later today
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
If they're planning a trade, they better get on it right about now.....
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
Anybody paying attention to whats going on between MIL and MIN?
Shhhh. Don’t say it. I wanna see if he can pull it off.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
through 5???
that’s like boston medical group premature
by sam in so cal on Jun 24, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
More late news...
aandro
The #Rangers have cleared a spot on the 40-man roster by assigning Warner Madrigal outright to OKC.
Wonder who they’re thinking of bringing up. Shep?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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