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Omar Beltre to start Wednesday against the Angels

So, word has come down that the Rangers will recall Omar Beltre for Wednesday's start against the Angels.

This is interesting, for a couple of reasons.  First, I had assumed that the Rangers were just going to move everyone up a day, since Scott Feldman is going to be starting tomorrow.  However, it appears the Rangers just didn't want to subject Beltre to the pressure of making his first major league appearance against a divisional rival in the series opener on the road.

Secondly, though, the choice of Beltre could involve a certain amount of gamesmanship on the part of the Rangers.  They've used Dustin Nippert as a spot starter the last couple of times this spot has come around, and apparently saved Beltre to face the Angels.  The story on pitchers, of course, is that they have the advantage the first time around, since other hitters haven't seen them before and don't have a scouting report on them.  And you'd be hard-pressed to find a pitcher with a scantier scouting report on him than Beltre, who hasn't been in the U.S. the past five years.  I doubt the Angels have much of a book on Beltre, during his time in AAA, and they'll be seeing him cold.

The question now is, who goes from the active roster to make room for Beltre?  Nippert hasn't been great this year, and would seem to be the obvious choice, except he's out of options.  The Rangers would have to d.l. him to create a roster spot, or else expose him to waivers...and even if he cleared waivers (unlikely), he's been outrighted before, so he could elect to become a free agent.

Alexi Ogando is the most recent addition, but he's been terrific so far...the Rangers could send him down, but he's one of their 7 best relievers.

Matt Harrison has options remaining, and has been iffy out of the pen, but he's also one of the Rangers' only two lefties in the bullpen, and in particular, against the Angels, I think the Rangers are going to want to have lefty arms available out of the bullpen.

That leaves Chris Ray...he's been someone that has been used quite a bit by Ron Washington, and is in the "circle of trust," so to speak, but he also hasn't been good this year.  Ray's ERA is just 3.41, but his FIP and xFIP are both over 5, he's walked as many as he's struck out, and his K rate is poor for a power reliever.  Ray would seem to be the logical choice ot send down.

Anthony Andro thinks Ray is safe, being a veteran, and that Nippert or Ogando goes to make room for Beltre.  I wouldn't be surprised if any of those four are dropped to make room for Beltre, though.

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save ogando

any of the other 3 would be fine by me

"Diving stab by Andrus, gets up, throws.... GOT HIM!!! An unbelievable play! From short left field!"
-Eric Nadel on 5/17/10

by Jason Brynsvold on Jun 28, 2010 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Kill the Cockroach!!!

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 28, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

:(

Talk of this sort of thing = sad Walter Sobchak

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 28, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre....

I saw him pitch several weeks ago @ New Orleans and he looked great. Being older I think will help him and eventhough he hasn’t pitched in th “Big Show” he does have some kind of big game experience as he has pitch in the Carribean series some. Anyway I was wondering if this was what would happen. Go Rangers!

by techgolf44 on Jun 28, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Cool

Anything else? velo, offspeed stuff, etc

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scouting report from Baseballcube

Omar de la Beltre:
Scouting Report Control: 57 K-Rating: 53 Efficiency: 67 vsPower: 73

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 28, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you explain the first paragraph?

I don’t quite understand what you mean.

by ab03 on Jun 28, 2010 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

well done AJM

Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!

by RA Dickey on Jun 28, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you have a typo/wrong wording in there though

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they felt like...

…if they were going to bring up Beltre, let him start the 2nd game — not the opening game of the series. Just a little less pressure in that situation.

I could be wrong, but that would make sense, given the decision to start Feldman on Tuesday.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying

starting Feldman now doesn’t give him the extra day off that everybody else got.

I wonder if that really is the case. I never thought a series opener was any different than any other game

by ab03 on Jun 28, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they just wanted Beltre to have a couple days up on the team, to let it on soak in...

…before they threw him to the wolves

Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

all* soak in

Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the alternative...

…Beltre may have started on Friday, in which case, the Wednesday start would be because that’s when he’d have 4 days off between starts.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

He started Thursday.

Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Logically,

Ray should go down but since logic has nothing to do with this then im saying Ogando.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 28, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

For those wondering...

Beltre is a FB-split-slider according to Jason Cole.

"No nuts, no glory"

by coolaid on Jun 28, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I am done with Nippert, I am done with the Nippert is out of options conundrum.

He served his purpose, let’s move on.

Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!

by RA Dickey on Jun 28, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really either of them can go

Keep Ogando and Harry.

Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!

by RA Dickey on Jun 28, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

No he isn't.

Nippert is the Harden of the bullpen. That isn’t to say Ray isn’t bad; Nippert is just awful.

by rclarkjd10 on Jun 28, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he is

Better K/BB ratio. Basically the same HR rate (Nippert’s is slightly better).

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we arguing over who sucks less?

Let’s stop. Nippert or Ray: color me indifferent.

by rclarkjd10 on Jun 28, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it is something to discuss

Especially if we lose one if he hits waivers but the other one likely clears.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that is a valid option.

Though I don’t know if I really want to just use Scheppers as a long man.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I realize they are stretching Scheppers.

But I also bet we have him on a pretty hard inning limit this year. And I would also bet that he is more likely to be a 1 inning RP if he comes up.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a helluva a good struggle.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Jun 28, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant

in the last week or so. I thought I read he had given up 7 runs in his last 12.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jun 28, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

IP

geez. I’m all over the place

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jun 28, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes 3 of his last four outings have been a bit rough.

Though the one 4 games ago looks a bit like bad luck. 4 hits leading to two runs probably means bad luck with stacked hits. Don’t know when that was in the game, but if it was later could just be fatigue.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha,

His June has been mediocre, but he got the K totals rolling again last outing.

He gonna be good. I still think come September, he’s a rotation candidate.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Jun 28, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt he would be a rotation candidate

due to innings totals for him for the year by that point.

I’d really bet that they are going to keep him somewhere in the 100-120 range as a max.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's like saying the Astros are better than the Pirates.

Come on, man…

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's on my fantasy team, I know the numbers...

I meant solely in terms of the K/BB ratio.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jun 28, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

whoops, wrong gif.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jun 28, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish.

Was pretty funny though.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Jun 28, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either one works.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 28, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

pRAA

Nippert: -4.9
Ray: +1.4

Nippert’s numbers are much better as a starter than a reliever.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ooh, not bad.

See this is an example of not making things up. what about track record? I’m on an iPhone.

by philkid3 on Jun 28, 2010 6:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hard to count last for Ray, coming off TJS

Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough to compare them

Because of injury past, short sample sizes/large variance due to them being relievers, and the different roles their used in.

Whatever, I don’t think that this should outweigh the option/40 man implications.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

MOE also supports this

by Mike E on Jun 28, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

he had a place on the 08 team, but not the 2010 team.

"Diving stab by Andrus, gets up, throws.... GOT HIM!!! An unbelievable play! From short left field!"
-Eric Nadel on 5/17/10

by Jason Brynsvold on Jun 28, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nippert has a spot on the team. He is the long man.

The problem right now is we need 2 or 3 of them. I guess Harrison also sorta slots into that role.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Ogando go 3 innings the other day?

How much longer do you need a long man to go? I’d rather have Beltre pitch in that role (or Feldman after Beltre dominates)

by rclarkjd10 on Jun 28, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Nippert has a place in a pen. He’s a better than replacement-level reliever who can go several innings. It’s pretty hard to get seven relievers better than that.

And this season, he’s spiked his K rate quite a bit, and everything that’s declined is more likely due to SSS noise than that.

Ray, meanwhile, sucks.

by philkid3 on Jun 28, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Nippert has more of a spot than Ray. The bullpen needs a long reliver / spot starter and Nippert is suited for that role.
Ray however is supposed to be a power reliever and he just isn’t. Ogando fills the need that Rays departure would create.

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by rentz on Jun 28, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ray has options too

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

options trump all?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are talking about two pretty equivalent players to get off the 25 man

and one has options and one doesn’t, shouldn’t you option the guy because you aren’t running any risk of losing him?

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

then the

40 doesn’t trump all?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree...

I think he’s safe on waivers

Why do some people think aquariums are cruel? The fish love it there! They told me. They said, "Truthfully Rich, it's fuckin awesome. There's no predators. No nets, no pollution. It's like the ocean without all the bullshit." -Richard Jeni

by chezBK203 on Jun 28, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet some team would grab Nippert.

He is not a player without any value. He doesn’t have a lot, but he does have a place on a baseball team.

Why give up a player when you can not give up a player?

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I totally get that

but I like the gamble. His fastball makes me drool, like I could hit it cuz its so damn straight. I wish we could just send him down for a tune up.

Why do some people think aquariums are cruel? The fish love it there! They told me. They said, "Truthfully Rich, it's fuckin awesome. There's no predators. No nets, no pollution. It's like the ocean without all the bullshit." -Richard Jeni

by chezBK203 on Jun 28, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet somehow he strikes major league hitters out at a decent rate.

And really generated his huge walk rate in two outings. Nippert is useful. Right now Ray is a front side of the BP guy, the way he is being used, and just isn’t that good. A guy who has been a power RP that is now striking out under 5/9. yuck.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we are also seeing...

how some of the guys are dealing with the workload as compared to others. Trust me, I agree with you.

Why do some people think aquariums are cruel? The fish love it there! They told me. They said, "Truthfully Rich, it's fuckin awesome. There's no predators. No nets, no pollution. It's like the ocean without all the bullshit." -Richard Jeni

by chezBK203 on Jun 28, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that Rays walks have been his problem all year, regardless of workload.

Why do some people think aquariums are cruel? The fish love it there! They told me. They said, "Truthfully Rich, it's fuckin awesome. There's no predators. No nets, no pollution. It's like the ocean without all the bullshit." -Richard Jeni

by chezBK203 on Jun 28, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

please let ogando stay

as much pressure as we’re putting on beltre; might as well let someone who went through what he went through stick around…

USA

by Longhorn on Jun 28, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't see how you send Ogando down right now.

Doing incredibly well, albeit in a short amount of time.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on Jun 28, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am i missing something...

Couldnt we just get rid of arias(or blanco) I know that would leave us with a 13 man pitching staff which isnt preferable but that leaves us with blanco, Murphy, and max ramirez as extra men for the little amount of time wed need him up here. As little a fan of nippert as i am, id rather lose arias than him.

by CDFAN on Jun 28, 2010 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

This.

The move needs to be Blanco/Arias. Preferably Arias.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 28, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

They aren’t going to leave themselves with a 3 man bench.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about Ogando?

He’s hitting 1.000!

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Jun 28, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adam...

I get that they couldnt have a 3 man bench long term but really if this is just short term(and i think it is) Why not use this in the short term? Ill ask a simple question, is Arias in the top two options at ANY position? I dont think he is and so i dont see a need for him in either the short or long term.

by CDFAN on Jun 28, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJM

will most certainly agree one of the two has to go. Everyone here just knows though that management will not move either one because of the love affair Wash has with UIFers.

Not to mention you don’t want to move a bat for a pitcher in this situation. so it’s kind of irrelevant.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jun 28, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather not see Arias here

If they were, for example, ready to try Garko again, they could DFA Arias, promote Beltre, then send Beltre down the next day and call up Garko.

I don’t think they’re at that point, though.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arias's spot on the team really just seems odd.

I wonder if there is something with Kinsler’s ankle that they aren’t telling anyone. Some serious danger point.

But even with that it shouldn’t be that hard to find someone who can be pretty equal to Arias for little cost.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

um, blanco?

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jun 28, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Kinsler gts reinjured we need someone other then Blanco

Or we have to find a repleacement for Blanco. But yes as far as while the team is healthy Blanco and Arias are pretty equal. Well Blanco is superior to Arias because he can actually be a UIF.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point...

Im not advocating going with 13 pitchers and 12 position players long term. Im obviously not privy to the rangers internal dialogue so i dont know if the plan is to spot start beltre and then leave him in the pen or if hes here to stay or if theres some injury i dont know. Im just saying that this seems like a short term move and for a week or so i dont see any need for arias. Having a 3rd pinch runner just doesnt matter much to me and barring armageddon thats pretty much all he is.

by CDFAN on Jun 28, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

this thread

will be acting in lieu of the game day thread

by huebone on Jun 28, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogando?

Surely not.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 28, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I dont think

Ogando is going anywhere anytime soon

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jun 28, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't think so anyway.

Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 28, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wash

loves his savvy bullpen veterans though!

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jun 28, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's Harrison

The rangers are completely averse to giving up players through DFA and the one lefty in the bullpen thing isn’t that big of a deal to them (at least, wasn’t to start the season). Harrison doesn’t even get used as a lefty. He’s just a long man

by ab03 on Jun 28, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree

They aren’t using Harrison as a LOOGY. He’s just mopping up in games that have already been decided. And if Wash/Maddux don’t think Harry is a better option to start a game than Nippert is, then that says a great deal about how little faith they have in Harrison.

Harrison should go to AAA.

"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa

by Hard8 on Jun 28, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wash

if i remember correctly, commented on how much he liked having two lefties available out of the pen.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jun 28, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He already gets to have Arias and Blanco on the active roster

I think the GM should get to choose who the other 23 guys are.

"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa

by Hard8 on Jun 28, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

well, i generally agree with the common thinking around here about blanco/arias but I think it couldn’t hurt to have a long man left hander and a long man right hander to go with some power arms. Ray just has to go.

However, it is an atrocity that we have two UIF on the active roster.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jun 28, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm watching your movie right now on HBO.

I will drop whatever I am doing to catch it.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aqua on Jun 28, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I think it’s one of the guys that has options remaining

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 28, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJSkqhiIY0

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, you should like him:
People will like the #Rangers big Omar Beltre. Nice guy, good to deal with and speaks good English.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

Will the mainstream media ever post stats beyond ERA and W/L’s? This story discusses Omar Beltre and his 0-5 record with an ERA under 3.00. That tells me everything.

"Do you understand probability theory? Yes, I do. The Rangers will probably lose." -ZFig2112

by 3Bagger on Jun 28, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He never wins!

And we’re throwing him against Anaheim? Did Nolan approve this? Or was he too busy chatting it up with NY and Houston reporters?

"Do you understand probability theory? Yes, I do. The Rangers will probably lose." -ZFig2112

by 3Bagger on Jun 28, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're planning their luncheon for winning The Silver Boot.

So Nolan has his hands tied up debating whether he wants Crab cakes or Brisket.

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crab cakes?

This is TEXAS! We don’t eat that crappy seafood, we eat COW!

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan is going to come kick your ass for accusing him of eating "cow".

He only sells prime beef from 1100 pound Beefmaster steers. If you want to eat a cow, go to McDonald’s or Golden Corral.

by casew on Jun 28, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Argh! They're throwing him against Anaheim!

they fly flags and play a murderers’ row of a schedule in Anaheim! Oh noez!

by Inkara1 on Jun 28, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

He kind of reminds me of a Kelvim Escobar or the starters version of FX2

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love that arm slot

Should add deception to that splitter

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by FormerLSBUser on Jun 28, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He just gave the reasons

veteran, circle of trust, etc.

Why can’t it be Harrison? I don’t buy the lefty issue

by ab03 on Jun 28, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'd prefer it be Ray

There are more pluses to having Harrison. Ray is a fastball pitcher when we already have several in Frankie, Nippert, Ogando and Feliz. No need to keep Ray in that mix, especially since that fastball has only struck out 1 guy for every two innings he has pitched. They both aren’t great options but I’d just rather see the guy who has pitched worse with no particularly glaringly unique skills go.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jun 28, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Ray is the better choice

but Harrison going down makes more sense. He isn’t even used as a loogy really just mopup duty

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 28, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 28, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Jeremiah 29:11

“‘For I know the plans I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future.’”

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for this guys

I’m taking a theology final and didn’t really want to cheat…but thanks to the power of LSB, I aced it!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did HE answer 2010?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, yes, of course.

But whom are you going to believe: the Lord, or a die-hard Rangers fan?

by Josh Garoon on Jun 28, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol serious or not...

Being a ministry grad student, I find that statement funny.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

I’m not really, but I knew there were a few on here, so…

:)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha well then well played sir. =)

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, and continue your good work

:)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Genesis 6:6-7

“The Lord was grieved that he had made [the LA Angels] on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So the Lord said, ‘I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air—for I am grieved that I have made them.’”

by Bats and Balls on Jun 28, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Austin 3:16 "I just whooped your ass."

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 28, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Working as a mercenary with Dolph Lundgren and Sylvester Stallone

Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh yeah that reminds me

I suppose to look up the Good Samaritan story for an essay we’re writing tomorrow

by Mike E on Jun 28, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luke 10

Managed to pay attention yesterday morning instead of thinking about baseball for once.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jun 28, 2010 10:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Proverbs 30:18-19

18There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not:

19The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of the Rangers in the middle of a wonderful season.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jun 29, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ecc 12:6

 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken

by BEW on Jun 29, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

We will find out I’m guessing just before game time Wednesday. Ray having an option and being at the bottom of the BP chart should be the choice, but I’d probably bet on Ogando because of his rookieness.

Damn effectiveness. I want age!

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jun 28, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHA.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 29, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anthony Andro

is the village idiot of the idiots in Local Medialand.

"I definitely lead the league in weird injuries. I'm embarrassed, really. Somebody asks you why you came out and you say, 'Um, I was dizzy.' And then they ask you again and you say, 'I think I got something in my eye.' I'd much rather be run over, that's more manly." -- C Jarrod Saltalamacchia, on the pair of strange injuries (dizziness, eye irritation) that have forced him to miss time this season.

by fightnirish220 on Jun 28, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

wha?

AA, imo, is the least slanted reporter around. He generally just sticks to facts and does less speculative work.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 28, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You ever seen his twitter during games?

He was all over the J Bone bunt, nuff said

"I definitely lead the league in weird injuries. I'm embarrassed, really. Somebody asks you why you came out and you say, 'Um, I was dizzy.' And then they ask you again and you say, 'I think I got something in my eye.' I'd much rather be run over, that's more manly." -- C Jarrod Saltalamacchia, on the pair of strange injuries (dizziness, eye irritation) that have forced him to miss time this season.

by fightnirish220 on Jun 28, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anthony Andro

Is by far the best writer working at the FWST.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Jun 28, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe so

but with that being the home of Galloway and the little ball of hate isnt that like being the best punter at the state school for the one legged?

by BEW on Jun 29, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's just great

that the Rangers got Ogando and Beltre back this year

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 28, 2010 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

If Beltre pitches well

what are the chances that he sticks in the rotation? Lets be real Harden & Holland are not coming back anytime soon

by Linedrive222 on Jun 28, 2010 5:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I think they're expecting Holland back after the ASB

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell...

I’m more inclined to carry 13 pitchers than to waste a spot with two UIFs. At least then you’d be forced to get somebody else on the bench, preferrably a righty, when you finally do drop a pitcher.

by Bats and Balls on Jun 28, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Said another way...

I’d prefer to explore other options than drop Dusty Tits. He just reminds me of a guy with fantastic stuff who goes to another team, learns to pitch, and leaves us cussing about how we can never develop our own pitching.

by Bats and Balls on Jun 28, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Certainly not...

But they will if he ever starts trusting his stuff and throwing the damn ball for strikes.

by Bats and Balls on Jun 28, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has been bothernig me for a while

Fastballs will have natural horizontal toward the throwing hand of the pitcher (RHP fastball will break in to the left handed side of the catcher, while LHP fastball breaks to the right handed side of the catcher). Depending on the velocity of the pitch, the average break is like ~8 inches for 90 mph fastballs, and ~5 inches for 95 mph fastballs.

Hitters tends to do their best work against a fastball when it has average horizontal movement. See this article. When a fastball is perfectly straight, (have 0 horizontal movement), hitters do not do well at all. If you fastball is as straight as an arrow, it’s actually a good thing. In fact, a fastball that has no horizontal movement is called a cutter. This is probably because hitters become accustomed to the natural movement of fastballs, and they can inherently calculate that movement in their head when they try to hit a ball. When the movement of your fastball is a lot different than the average, it throws off the hitter’s calculation – it’s something he is not expecting. Maybe this is the reason for the effectiveness of a cutter.

Nippert’s fastball has about 3 inches of horizontal movement for about an average 93 mph fastball. (Note the perils of pitch f/x analysis here: last season, his fastball had horizontal movement of about 4 inches – note sure whether the change in movement is real or a calibration error of pitch f/x – I haven’t dug into the data too much). Tim Lincecum has a good fastball, his fastball REALLY is as straight as an arrow, it averages less than an inch of horizontal movement with a velocity of just above 91 mph, but nobody will say it’s easy to hit it. Of course, there a whole lot of other variables that goes into the effectiveness of a fastball, but it’s not correct to say that a straight-as-arrow fastball is a bad thing. If anything, we would say a straight-as-arrow fastball is something to be desired.

by Telegraph on Jun 28, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Interesting analysis

But regardless of the cause, his fastball isn’t as effective as you would expect for its velocity rather its purely the control issues, the movement, lack of deception, etc.

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by DShep on Jun 28, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, I understand that; I didn't argue that Nippert's fastball is really good

I am just crusading against the idea that a straight fastball automatically = bad fastball.

I would like to think that I am a modern day Don Quioxte

by Telegraph on Jun 28, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth...

My avatar is of Donkey Hotey. But that’s not relevant in times like these.

by 3hacks on Jun 28, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh, not average movement, but movement with highest frequency

i.e. 8 inches is the most frequent horizontal movement for all fastball thrown ~ 90 mph
5 inches is the most frequent horizontal movement for fastballs throwing ~ 95 mph

by Telegraph on Jun 28, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Green.

It's "Ode to Joy," from the Ninth Symphony. - Josh Garoon

by jackanape on Jun 29, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, 8 inches is average?

I think some aren’t answering the question honestly.

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jun 30, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please be Ray or Harrison....

and not Ogando

I didn’t consider Nippert because I dont see us releasing him when we have other options.

by death of the cool on Jun 28, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

That’s where I’m at.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd vote Harrison

I’m as huge a Harry fan as there is, but he’s not cut out for the bullpen. Send him to AAA to start, which can either boost up his trade value a bit or stretch him out to be an emergency starter sometime in the future.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 28, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Trade value could be a good reason

(just don’t tell Harry, he’ll cry)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 28, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with stretching Harry out

if one thing has been proven this season its that the Rangers need emergency starters.

by Linedrive222 on Jun 28, 2010 5:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

really?

i was thinking we’ve had about as a consistent rotation as we’ve ever had

by kevinkinsler on Jun 28, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Harry too.

I think he’ll eventually be a good 3rd or 4th starter for someone if he can get and stay healthy and figure out how to cut his walks down a bit.

Basically, I think he’ll be a left-handed Tommy Hunter.

by Trickman on Jun 28, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh

I don’t see it. I think he tops out as a good 4th starter who teases you with good/great outings followed by poor ones.

Not consistent average production like from Hunter…average production with greater variance. But that’s just anecdotal, I haven’t looked at his numbers recently.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I ran a little custom stat once

Harry has one of the highest start-to-start variances in baseball the past 3 years

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 28, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weren't you the one..

…who loved my run distribution post?

Because if so, this would be entirely unsurprising.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I love distributions

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 29, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ray please

or a trade with Ray or Arias as a throw-in

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Jun 28, 2010 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's pretty awesome

and a testament to Jon Daniels (and our legal team) hard work that Ogando and Beltre are going to be immediate contributors to this team’s most magical season.

I vote send a pitcher with options down unless we’re ready for Beltre, Scheppers or Strop to relieve. If we’re ready for one of those, then cutting Ray is fine with me.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 28, 2010 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

OT- Steve Carell leaving The Office.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/steve-carell-leaving-office-_n_628190.html

This hurts a little, but it’s not that bad of a feeling…

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I've watched it from day 1 and like it

but its really running out of steam, it would be a good time to let it end when he leaves.

Fanatics - my webcomic

by DShep on Jun 28, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
This hurts a little, but it’s not that bad of a feeling…

Finish it off!

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
Finish it off!

That’s what she said!

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wrecked

It works on two different levels

by BEW on Jun 29, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, agree totally

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 28, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's lost its luster...

It needs to end very soon and this apparently this is the catalyst.

by lost in space on Jun 28, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Seasons 1-4 were amazing. Season 5 was still decent but this past season lost a ton of the magic. It’s not the same anymore and I really hope they end it after this season.

An Office series without Michael Scott isn’t right.

by behindthebag on Jun 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Can’t see it continuing with Carrell, but what else is he gonna say, they can’t survive without me?

by selke99 on Jun 28, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

bbc

loved the original bbc show but could never really get into the american version

by huebone on Jun 28, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love both

But the American version created much deeper and more interesting secondeary characters and wasn’t so horribly dark

by philkid3 on Jun 28, 2010 6:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

also helps thats the american versions had longer to develop

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 28, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I like Season One of the BBC version more than Season One of the American.

After that, I think the American one is the better series.

by philkid3 on Jun 28, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

the darkness...

is what made the bbc version so brilliant

by huebone on Jun 28, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

To get back on the real topic,

I never put any effort into the original. I might have to do that someday. I’ve had tons of people mention how much better they think it is to the American version.

by lost in space on Jun 28, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
This hurts a little, but it’s not that bad of a feeling…

That’s what she said.

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

And by Strasburg, of course, you mean Tim Hudson =P

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha missed that part then.

Fair enough, you win.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 28, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Last Play: N. Morgan picked off at second, pitcher to first

Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol AJM pretending like they ever use Harrison in a lefty role anyways

He comes in for long-relief. He might as well be a righty.

There’s a 90% chance it’s him.

by Mike E on Jun 28, 2010 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

This is techinically true...

Heh

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 7:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ew, no 'i' between h and n.

Damn you.

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 7:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can I get a royalty on

the “Circle of Trust” thingy?

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2010 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

In term of Ron and his players

I believe I did. Now about that royalty…

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

He might like his royalties first

by Josh Lile on Jun 28, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way OT: Ed Coffin?

Has anybody heard anything from Ed Coffin?

The link to his SBN profile doesn’t work any more, and the last time he posted was about 3 weeks ago.

I’m not trying to stir up another internet search wild goose chase.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Jun 28, 2010 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Liar.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 28, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last I heard, Ed told everybody the board sucks now

and he wasn’t coming back. Then 2 weeks later randomly showed up. He stayed around a few more days and I haven’t him post in awhile.

by lost in space on Jun 28, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

Really? I’ve never seen the greyed-out name before.

by BHill on Jun 28, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

and yes, I realize that post is really old.

It was just the top fan post when I searched on Ed’s name.

by BHill on Jun 28, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean around here, sorry.

He’s still out and about..no need to start an iapple type search for him, is all.

But yeah I’d never seen that either.

by Mike E on Jun 28, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He most definitely is very, very

involved over at NMLR.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

he doesn’t come back this time.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's pretty harmless over here, Cahill. Kind of like meeting Joe West in a bar where he's just another guy and has no authority.

I don’t mind the Old Sage (it’s good to hear a different perspective once in a while)although I think he gets the Chauncey Gardner Treatment from some in here.

He’ll write a long dissertation and I’ll read it….and then read it again…and then read it again…and think, was he trying to say this or was he trying to say that?

His genius is the ability to be purposefully vague so he can cover every angle.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

He does use

a whole lot of words to say very little.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Goodbye Nippert!

He has proven himself to be worthless. I’d love to see him go.

by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Jun 28, 2010 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Would someone

with a name of JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo ever joke?

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

By: Josey Wales

by Drew062682 on Jun 28, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

Fangraphs has him exactly at replacement level, which is below average for a player on a competing team. Harrison is better than that, and at least has a future on the team.

by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Jun 28, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure that WAR is a great indicator for relief pitchers

Plus, Nippert actually has a better FIP & xFIP, by a hair or two.

K’ing 4 more batters per nine will do that.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Jun 28, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a fine indicator for relievers.

You just need to acknowledge they pitch in a SSS and look at the rest of the body of work and any scouting indicating if something is different from the past.

And it’s not like a replacement-level guy who can throw a few innings lacks value. It would be nice to have everyone be better, but, even on a team that hopes to compete, that’s hard to do. Plus, I think Nippert has been and will be better than he’s been so far this season. In particular, he’s pitched long enough that you can buy in to their being something to the upped K rate.

by philkid3 on Jun 28, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

Not in the bullpen.

And you’re ignoring his career track record.

by philkid3 on Jun 28, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison is replacement level (too)

Nippert has at least proven to be a capable long man.

The best thing for Harrison is to go to AAA as a starter and find a pitch with which he can strike batters out.

by elvis1isking on Jun 28, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would rather have Nippert here than Harrison

The only issue is Ron’s insistence to put him in during the 7th inning and such during key moments instead of the long man.

Hopefully if Harrison gets sent down here..he sees that Nippert should be the fn long man. And not move Ogando there, for instance.

by Mike E on Jun 28, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogando already is

a long reliever. It’s a fine role for him as a rookie, though his talent obviously begs for higher leverage situations. That’s just not Ron, and there are good relievers here for those higher leverage times so keeping Ogando in long relief isn’t the worst of Ron’s decisions.

And… did they upgrade the AI for the Mike E chatbot? THIS is impressive… :)

by elvis1isking on Jun 28, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Every team has below average production from some spot on their roster. It doesn’t make sense to burn the sort of money you’d need to in order to have a great 6th bullpen guy or 5th OF or 2nd MIF or whatever. Much better use to spend those couple million in the draft and cycle in some league minimum types until you can fill those holes.

The amount of playing time they get means it’s almost impossible that it will hurt you too badly.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Ray

have options left? I don’t mind sending him out if he doesn’t, surely between Beltre and Ogando we can replace Ray

by Alemc on Jun 28, 2010 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, Ray has one option left

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Jun 28, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously...

the answer is to send Hamilton down the Rangers need a right handed hitting outfielder.

by huebone on Jun 28, 2010 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

then I think

sending him out is a no brainer

by Alemc on Jun 28, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Keynes

where do you find that info?

by Alemc on Jun 28, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

A snarky answer would be the 'reply' button

But I’m not in a snarky mood today.

This discussion ties most of it up.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

by Keynes on Jun 28, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

I forget the reply button and I appreciate the “no snarky” response…the one thing I dislike about this thread is that way too many people try to be snarky and argumentative, including AJM….I’m a lawyer too and I get enough snarky and arguments at work…I do this to experience baseball

by Alemc on Jun 28, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh

That is a twist, certainly.

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Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jun 28, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does M. Night Shamalamadingdong think of this?

What a twist!!!!

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm reading more into the 'two way street' comment than the second judge

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by Keynes on Jun 28, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

She is another bankruptcy judge in the Northen District.

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by Aqua on Jun 28, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish they had shown less

Looks good though.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only showed stuff from Part 1, hopefully....

Suck it, Twilight fans. Suck it long and hard.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh

Don’t think so. That was final duel and the showdown before the final duel. Looks like they were showing the protection around the school breaking down as well as the Death Eaters charging down, also something from the climax.

Saw some of the snake attack from the visit to his parent’s home…though I think that’s probably part 1 now that I think about it.

I really do think that Book 7, much more so than 5 or 6, and probably more than the others, is perfect for a movie. Book 5 has the climax at the end, but it was only made for a movie in that it was great to skip over the dreck in the middle of the book. Can’t really do that with 7, so even though it ruins the symbolism that Rowling was going for, I like that they split it instead of cutting stuff out. Should be a good action/adventure type.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a geek.

kidding.

I’m just glad they’re attaching the trailer to “Eclipse” just to put them damn tweeners in their friggin place.

“We need more recruits!!!!”

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

I like Hermione.

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JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who doesn't.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The character!

Ok, she’s not bad looking either. A lot better looking than I had pictured when I read the books..

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by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Talking about the Tex trade on ESPN...

And Rick Sutcliffe mentioned some dude named Neftali Perez who plays for us?

Ha ha

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by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 28, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish Neife Perez never existed.

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by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe after he makes wins the All-Star World Series game MVP they will finally get his name right.

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by devsr on Jun 28, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Old Hoss strikes again....
OldHossRadbourn
  
Two losses? Bah! This S. Strasburg is an unmitigated disaster. Speak not of your advanced numbers, you sorcerous mathematicians. He must go.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dot dot dot....

"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."

"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 29, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not as bad as they're making it.

Not half as bad as Dave Dravecky.

I still get ill watching that video. (ff to 0:58)

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

His reaction is what makes it seem like something turrible

Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.

by octoberty on Jun 28, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dravecky or Zumaya?

You knew watching the vid that Dravecky broke his arm.

You don’t really see anything with Zumaya’s.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dravecky's story

Easily one of the saddest stories in baseball, hands down.

Makes Theisman look like a joke.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw the replay

His hand was shaking in a scary looking way. Yikes.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless you got a really good angle on it, I'm not seeing much.

Looks like ligament damage to me….

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to say, but he it definitely appeared that he blew something out in his elbow.

Whether it was a tendon, ligament, dislocation, whatever. Something was definitely not right at all. He was in severe pain. Sucks. This will be a major setback for him, I think.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 29, 2010 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

No idea where to find the vid (I'm sure YT has it)

But when Sid Vicious (WWE wrestler back in the day) broke his leg, that is the sickest sports break I’ve seen on film.

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by bking on Jun 29, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Worse than Theisman?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Theisman's break is SO overrated. Has been for at least a decade now.

McGahee’s blown out knee in the National Championship obliterates Theisman’s injury.

Or even Napoleon McCallum’s injury against the 49ers on MNF. When both of your knees hyper-extend backwards at the same time, you beat Theisman.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

McCallum's injury

really wasn’t shown.

I know it was worse (did his leg get amputated) but I don’t remember it being graphically shown like Joe T’s injury was.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, really?

Here you go then….

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about the soccer guy last year?

Can’t remember his name.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 29, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what you get

when you’re damn near 300lbs and over 6’5", YOU DON’T BELONG ON THE ROPES!!!!

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please let it be Ray

"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland

by LSJ on Jun 28, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Jimenez has a no no going through 6.....

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 10:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Lies!

Only through 5, heh. But yeah I’m tuning in just in case.

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by DShep on Jun 28, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone concerned

About Colby Lewis through all this?

by SirChris4 on Jun 28, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

No, why?

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 29, 2010 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have any concern

But he was the only pitcher bumped back. Leap frogged right over Wilson in the rotation schedule. I’m not saying there is any reason to worry but management must feel Colby needs the rest while the others do not. Must say something.. right?

by SirChris4 on Jun 29, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

It’s an interesting move for sure, but I don’t think there’s anything to worry about as far as Colby is concerned.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 29, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's thrown a shitload of pitches in his starts this year

His complete game was actually the fewest pitches he threw in a game all year.

I think that’s why he’s the one being pushed back.

"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland

by LSJ on Jun 29, 2010 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

Don’t think it’s anything serious, just getting him an extra day’s rest to keep him fresh.

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by utlonghorn24 on Jun 29, 2010 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking too.

I doubt it has anything to do with injury, but probably more to do with his workload.

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 29, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Prime 9: Top Teams on MLB Network

Rangers ranked # 2.

Booyeah!

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by txranger7 on Jun 28, 2010 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

ESPN PR's have Texas at #3 now ahead of TB and ATL

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 28, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're on the cover of SI.com as well

It’s a video though, so I didn’t check it out.

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by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it

really that important to keep maddux’s philosophy of not adjusting the rotation because off-days instead of starting a much better pitcher, colby lewis, on a regular 4 days rest?

i dont understand

by steel home on Jun 29, 2010 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

It seems like this season is flying by us...

I’ve probably missed 10 or so games and I already feel like that’s way too many at this point of the year.

by lost in space on Jun 29, 2010 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Beltre looks imposing.

I’m excited. Wonder if they could trade Ray or Nippert for a prospect? Someone that wouldn’t have to be on the 40. Seems like they’d be valuable to some teams and we’re getting close to the trade deadline.

by jcAustin on Jun 29, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

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