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Tuesday a.m. Rangers things

So, the big news from yesterday was that Omar Beltre will be called up to the majors to start against the Angels on Wednesday.  Ron Washington says there's nothing wrong with Colby Lewis, who is being bumped back a couple of days...they just want to keep him fresh and rested.

Jeff Wilson's notes talk about the Beltre recall, while noting that there's no announcement yet on who will be sent down to make room for Beltre, and about Josh Hamilton's recent surge in the All Star balloting, which has him a near-lock to be voted in as a starter.

Evan Grant has a story about how the Rangers hot streak in June has been fueled by an offense that is embracing what Clint Hurdle is teaching.  The Rangers are first in the league in batting average, third in OBP, and fourth in slugging percentage, and Grant says that that is due in no small part to improved approaches and having a plan at the plate.

Anthony Andro has a story up today about this 3 game set with the Angels, a huge series given how the A.L. West is shaking out.  There's a quote from Michael Young about this not being a "make or break" series for either team...and while that's generally true, a sweep by Texas would give the Rangers a 7.5 game lead in the West.  A Ranger sweep is quite unlikely, of course...but should Texas sweep, it would put Anaheim in a huge hole for the second half.

T.R. Sullivan writes that the A.L. West is still wide open, with all four teams still in the race.

Barry Shlachter has a story up about the latest in the bankruptcy court, with Jeff Beck emerging as a potential new bidder.

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about the Justice Story yesterday?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Just got out class and come and get on here

No..A.M. things yet!! Was bout to slam AJM for being lazy in the topmost thread. Then right as I log in it comes up..heh.

by Mike E on Jun 29, 2010 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

keep on him Mike E, we can't have any early morning lallygagging.

A punch and JUDY hitter is by definition a hitter who hits well placed but weakly hit balls for singles. Walter Alston once said of Willie McCovey "When he hits a home run he hits it with such authority it seems like an act of god. He's not a punch and Judy belter."

by BigGuns on Jun 29, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's really good.

Back when Chris Davis was in the line-up and shitting the bed fantastic, we were throwing down an OBP in the .315 range.

I made the claim that the team with the highest OBP in the AL West would win the division.

The Rangers are without a doubt the Alpha Male in this regard (Angels are next at .322) and their .347 OBP is awfully close to the .351 OBP they had in 2008.

The Great God of OBP never lies.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did Chris Davis

have sex with your mother? wife? daughter?
Don’t understand why you have to drag his name in the dirt all the time.

I hate Josey motherfucking Wales!

by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is how he rolls man.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

For some reason he thinks it's a bragging point for him

Even though no one was ever arguing that Chris Davis was good last season

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse me?

“No one was ever arguing that Chris Davis was good last season.”

When he came back from OKC last summer it was the message board equivalent to MacArthur returning to the Phillipines.

Remember all the LSB hype? The 3" bold headlines? C’mon…Little Brother was like Harry Carrey in a swimming pool of Budweiser.

That first week Davis was pretty good (The Newberg told us that he had changed his swing plane and was no getting more backspin or somesuch) and this place was doing somersaults and nekkid jumping jacks.

And then reality (and what I had been preaching all along) hit.

Thank the Baseball Gods every day that Justin Smoak showed up in late April.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let the healing begin...

and that jazz, Donuts!!!

"Hamilton, it's chalk, not coke, you don't have get tripped up by it"- kevinkinsler Jun 1, 2010

by awillis111 on Jun 29, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

This a re-issue, Koufax.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody else brought up the topic

on why the offense is better.

OBP, OBP, OBP, OBP…The Great God never lies.

Hurdle might be good at his job but he’s not trying to make a good chickensalad with all the chickenshit that Rudy J was forced to use last year (including Hank F, AJones and Chris Davis).

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jun 29, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to admit that I'm as proud about saying we should have stuck with Rudy as I was earlier this season

But, JW is right

Smoak and Vlad replacing CD and Hank F is going to make a huge difference regardkess of your pitching coach.

We also brought up league average-producing catching, which I don’t think Hurdle can take blame for.

If he did something to get Hammy and Elvis where they are, though, then I’m pretty happy with the hire.

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

JW is only half right

sure, Vlad and Smoak help. but:

Kinsler: .383 vs .327
Andrus: .375 vs .329
Ham: .389 vs .315

Young and Murphy are about the same as last year (.364 vs .374 and .320 vs .338) and Borbon is much worse (.322 vs .376) partially due to a big drop in BA, but borbon is improving so we’ll see what he looks like in a month or two.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Jun 29, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Kins, SSS
andrus, granted
Hamilton, completely different hitter

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The A's don't look very good right now

but everybody still needs to let the season breathe some more.

Our fan base has been dumbed down by so much bad baseball in the past that they don’t know how to act when their favorite team is in first place before July 1.

Lotsa golf left to play.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont care who you are

thats funny. Is it possibble to rec something more than once? because this deserves it.

by BEW on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

I knew it sounded familiar!

I hate Josey motherfucking Wales!

by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is one of the funniest things I've read since Ben's "shit on your toothbrush" bit.

"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland

by LSJ on Jun 29, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think his sequel

is much more like Arthur 2 instead of Godfather 2.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

This may be the funniest thing you've ever posted.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 29, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

Something is definitely wrong. Multiple multi word posts. It is time for Mike E bot to get upgraded

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

for a while

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jun 29, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Way to go out on a limb there, TR...

Yeah, Seatlle is still in this. All they need to tie us is for us to play .500 ball and them to go 59-28. Piece of cake.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 29, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd say,

the Rangers offense is being driven by the highest BABIP in baseball. The same thing that drove the ’08 Rangers and the ’09 Angels. Hopefully we can sustain it through the end of the season like those 2 teams.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2010 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

I think

you are never as good as you look when things are going good and never as bad as you look when things are going bad.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's saying...

That the offense’s true numbers lie somewhere in the middle of what we’ve seen thus far. Not necessarily that they are average.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 29, 2010 9:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Better than average.

I just think the current hot streak is distorting their current numbers. I suspect they’ll step back some, I don’t think this June is any more sustainable than last June.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Trivia question

Guess where the Rangers 20.0% LD% ranks in the majors.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Close

2nd

Dodgers at 21.3%

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

They also have the second highest line drive rate in baseball.

The typical rule of thumb for expected BABIP is LD%+.12. That would be a .320 BABIP for the Rangers. They’ve got a .321.

Looking at the careers for the individual players would be a bit more informative, but at least looking at the line drive rates, there’s nothing necessarily unsustainable going on here. The only thing that I can immediately bet on bringing it down would be stiffer competition.

Also, it appears to me the last time .321 would have been good enough to lead baseball was 2005.

by philkid3 on Jun 29, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeh I'd say a sweep is quite unlikely...

being that they haven’t been swept in 76 consecutive home series.
This is the ONLY time I want to see that damn monkey, when he’s holding this sign at the end.

A punch and JUDY hitter is by definition a hitter who hits well placed but weakly hit balls for singles. Walter Alston once said of Willie McCovey "When he hits a home run he hits it with such authority it seems like an act of god. He's not a punch and Judy belter."

by BigGuns on Jun 29, 2010 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

al voting

as of yesterday…

1st base. morneau is a near lock, up over 200,000 on teixeira. teixeira is only up 29,000 on cabrera

2nd base. cano is a lock, nearly doubling pedroia. pedroia is only up 200,000 on kinsler. how long is pedroia on the DL? not long enough to miss all star game i presume. i imagine wigginton (health issues?) or hudson deserve it over kinsler.

3rd base. longoria way ahead of arod. arod’s about 700,000 ahead of young. though adrian beltre may actually get the backup 3rd base spot over arod and young…

ss. jeter. nothing to see here. as far as his backup… alex gonzalez?

DH. vlad.

OF…hammy is actually only 18K behind ichiro. and crawford is 3rd. cruz is closer to crawford than he is to the 5th place guys. 5-7th place is the yankees contingent that are total jokes. i doubt cruz has enough games in. 3 backup outfielders? boesch? wells? rios? ordonez?

by gossamer on Jun 29, 2010 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

How is Elvis not the logical choice to back up Jeter at SS?

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 29, 2010 9:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Because hitting usually trumps defense when it comes time for managers to fill out their AS rosters

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the most part I agree

But, spectacular plays get noticed, imo, and Elvis has ppppplenty

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because if you based it on who's been better so far this season, good cases can be made for Scutaro and Gonzalez.

Not that a good one can’t be made for Elvis, either. He’s just not definitively ahead of them or anything.

by philkid3 on Jun 29, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pedroia

Out 6 weeks.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on Jun 29, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very surprised that

the fans have actually gotten all of the starters right (you can argue for Cruz over Crawford but it is tough with all the time that Cruz has missed).

Everyone who is currently starting should be starting or you can make a great case for them starting.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'd take Rios over Ichiro

But other than that, yeah… great AL starters this year

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see that

Wells also should merit consideration as an All Star. What will be interesting is the Royals. Who makes it, Butler or DeJesus?

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this makes more sense.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really cant see how you could keep DeJesus

out of the game though.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are so many good OF's this season

Dejesus’s slash is fantastic, but he lacks the sexy numbers—hr’s, runs, rbis, sbs’s

OF’s obv deserving ahead of Dejesus, imo: Ichiro, Crawford, Hamilton, Rios.

Choo will go bc the Indians are terrible. I’d say 3-4 more spot go to OF’s, and you have Torii Hunter (at home), Magglio, Cruz, Gardner or Swisher (manager), Bautista, and maybe Markakis as the Oriole’s rep.

I could see him going, but Of’s and P’s this season are really competitive

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would have to think Girardi takes Gardner before Swisher.

Swisher is the crazy guy of the clubhouse and much better this year but Im sure Girardi sees how many guys are having much better years than Swisher.

This is Joe Girardi picking these teams too, not Joe Torre who used to stack up his teams with Yanks and always had Rivera no matter how bad of a year he was having.

by trav1102 on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Proof that SSS is almost in effect when looking at defensive stats?

Gardner, according to fangraphs is below average defensively

Swisher is above average, giving a 2.1-2.0 edge in WAR.

That being said, I highly doubt Swish has out-contributed Gardner so far this season

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd take Gardner

I’m just saying looking at WAR, an argument for Swish could be made

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rivera goes though

He’s been pretty good so fart this year.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Jun 29, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

mistyping FTW

insert fart joke here.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Jun 29, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

AL relievers

for the ASG:

Feliz, 20, 2.70, 0.960
Soria, 19, 2.51, 1.116
Valverde, 18, 0.53, 0.676
Soriano, 18, 1.63, 0.759
Rivera, 17, 0.92, 0.614
Bailey. 14, 1.74, 1.000

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Jun 29, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

in korea

you have to finish 2 years of service by the time you turn 30. choo is about to turn 28. i think they let you out of it if you medal in the olympics or participate in wbc. choo didn’t do either. maybe he defects and hopes he won’t get extradited? he doesn’t live there anymore. then he’d be a traitor or something. still has korean citizenship.

by gossamer on Jun 29, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

here's an article

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/cincinnati-reds/military-may-call-for-indians-choo—786531.html

i’m half german and held duel citizenship. germany requires military service as well. though dirk never did it. don’t think boris becker did either.

by gossamer on Jun 29, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Dirk did

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 29, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

you're right

wiki says he served 10 months, was allowed to play pro ball on weekends

by gossamer on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I thought I’d heard they didn’t have a uniform big enough for him, so he wore a tshirt and athletic shorts…or something like that.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 29, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why, oh, why

couldnt the Ho have done his while he was with the Rangers. That would have saved me so much heartache

by BEW on Jun 29, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

So

if Tampa came to the Rangers and said they’d give us Carl Crawford for Nelson Cruz, wouldn’t you make them cough up another arm?

Just sayin.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

For sure

But that’s only bc of their contracts

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is the ASG

not some rehashed trade scenario from several months ago so im not getting into this debate with you.

“Everyone who is currently starting should be starting or you can make a great case for them starting.” – I think the you can make a great case for either of them starting.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

1 year later

and still missing the point

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 29, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is no way alex gonzalez goes ahead of Elvis....

Girardi has to respect the defense that Elvis would bring to that game.

I mean Gonzalez has good numbers but I don’t see Toronto having more than 2 all-stars

by trav1102 on Jun 29, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

right

But, I imagine coaches use it as some sort of indicator at times

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could see that as possible.

I think Girardi’s a bit more knowledgeable than that, but I suppose in close cases it might be one way to make a decision.

by philkid3 on Jun 29, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm concerned about this series

Before the streak the Rangers’ road record was 10-16. Now that we’re playing a mediocre team instead of outright crappy ones, I’m worried they’ll revert to their previous ways of sucking.

The record vs. Anaheim in their stadium lately is encouraging, though.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on Jun 29, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

This.

"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin

by utlonghorn24 on Jun 29, 2010 9:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The most likely outcome for this series...

…is that the Angels take 2 of 3.

That’s just because the home team is more likely to win when two teams close to being equal play.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would take that.

3.5 up is way better than 1.5 up.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on Jun 29, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they're much better

They’re better, but not by more than 8ish games. Not enough to expect 2 out of 3 in Anaheim.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Angels run differential

suggests they’re an average team. Considering their injuries, I think our original guess of them being an ~85 win team is probably pretty close. I think the Rangers are probably a ~91 win team right now.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

First,

I said this:

They’re better, but not by more than 8ish games.

Second, over a 3 games series, in Anaheim, I don’t think that win differential is big enough to expect 2 out of 3. If they were playing four, then a split would be realistic.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

With the way both teams are playing, it’s not unreasonable to expect Anaheim to take 2 of 3.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'll settle this with the TagDon'tTweet Preview.

He’ll tell us what to expect, and we’ll accept it.

by Trickman on Jun 29, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

The projection I ran had the Rangers winning the series 58% of the time.

And that’s a little skewed by schedule. And treats the Angels as a normal team, instead of a team blessed by leprechauns.

Objectively, there’s strong evidence the Rangers are likely to win this series, but it’s not by so much that I don’t buy the Angels being at least slightly favored.

by philkid3 on Jun 29, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

We

have a significantly better OBP (.347 to .322) than the Angels.

We commit less errors than the Angels.

We give up fewer unearned runs than the Angels.

The number of walks we’ve given up is relatively high but the Angels have given up more.

We are whistling thru the graveyard in regards to the number of IPs our bully has (league leading 210 IPs) but our bully ERA is significantly better than the Angels.

To date, we’re the much better team.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I think we're the better team

But I just don’t think we’re so much better than them that you can expect to go there and take 2 out of 3. It can certainly happen, and the odds probably aren’t terrible for it…but I wouldn’t expect it.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like to

see us put up some good numbers this week because of the competition level…that’d give me peace of mind that This Thing really is legit because that schedule in the 2nd half is a beast.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

what kind of numbers?

you just looking for wins or is there something about this team, offensively or defensively or pitching staff, that you think the Angels are going to answer for you?

by elvis1isking on Jun 29, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Phrased poorly...

I want to see them continue to play well. It would be possible to play well and still go 3-3 (what the hell are the expectations for Beltre and why is Cobra being rested like this?) in these games.

I don’t want to see a blown save, or having us score 7 runs in 3 games while making a bunch of errors plus seeing the starters all crap out in the 5th inning.

If we do what we do, we should go 4-2.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not in my lifetime.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

(They agree with you about the A’s, BTW.)

by Closure GT on Jun 29, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't need no learnin' here.

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jun 30, 2010 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, there's their ability to consistently outperform their pythag.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by rlb02a on Jun 29, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to overstate the importance of a mid-season series

but this is huge for the Rangers. Even two of three in LAAAAAAA is a huge mental advantage going into the ASB.

So pumped.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 29, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd be fine

with 1 out of 3 on the road. Ecstatic with anything more.

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by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

so then you disagree

the Rangers winning 2 of 3 would be a great mental advantage? No comprendo.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 29, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Halos Heaven has a great preview piece up right now on the Rangers

apparently, every Ranger is lucky and destined to suck now that we will be playing tougher teams.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jun 29, 2010 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

LL's OffTopic yesterday

There’s gold in there. Golden Gifs.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

FINALLY

I can have a .gif where Robocop is riding a flying unicorn that shits rainbows in the shape of tiny boobs. THANK GOD.

It’s actually pretty awesome.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Totally wrong

It’s a gif of Robocop riding a flying unicorn that PISSES rainbow boobs…onto one of their posters. =D

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cyborgs piss?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just fantastic work.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

crap, I thought we were on to something.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

And HH is a royal beating

"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jun 29, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

it makes them sick

that we don’t even have an owner right now and we’re ahead in the standings.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 29, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for pointing that out

I sometimes like reading a horribly written analysis of this Rangers team. Apparently, every Rangers hitter sucks on the road and is great at home due to the bandbox that is RBIA, and they’ll suck because they’re BABIP is too high right now. Or that we have an easy schedule and thats why they’re doing well.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 29, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

And SirChris over there trolling with injury pictures

Dumbass.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what the HH regulars were saying

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a little informative

Granted, the side comments were annoying but some positive stuff was spot on. Found the positive comments on Smoak were even a bit much.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually got to the bottom of that article...

the first part dissecting each player is tough… too much bias. Too much ‘the ballpark gives them better numbers’ type of thinking…

The conclusion seems well thought out, though. It’s like two different people wrote it.

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on Jun 29, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

this weekends ChiSox series could be a MESS..

slow moving hurricane Alex is hitting south Texas on Thursday. The Sat. and Sun. games could be washed out.

A punch and JUDY hitter is by definition a hitter who hits well placed but weakly hit balls for singles. Walter Alston once said of Willie McCovey "When he hits a home run he hits it with such authority it seems like an act of god. He's not a punch and Judy belter."

by BigGuns on Jun 29, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Might get some residual

But it looks like it will hit too far south the last I saw.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that it is going to impact Dallas much

latest from the NHC.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

bigger please :)

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is the remote possibility Alex

takes a right turn but it appears that we’re clear but nothing definitive as of now.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

the weather channel has it going more north, engulfing most of Texas

A punch and JUDY hitter is by definition a hitter who hits well placed but weakly hit balls for singles. Walter Alston once said of Willie McCovey "When he hits a home run he hits it with such authority it seems like an act of god. He's not a punch and Judy belter."

by BigGuns on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it just me...

…or did The Weather Channel jump the shark a while ago? I mean, “How Weather Changed History”? Really, TWC? Just give me Local on the 8s and that hot girl that works weekends.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

who is she?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's usually one thing (of the Big 3 Categories) wrong with

the Weather Channel Chicks.

You may get a nice grill, a nice onion but no rack.

If you get the onion and the rack, you’re gonna need a sack for the grill.

Very rarely do you see the entire package on TWC other than …what’s her name, Alex Steele?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's the one I'm referring to.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

ASteele

has the intangible of being sexy.

Not sure what it is exactly but she has an exotic presence to go along with the nice toolbox she brings to the party.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who watches TV

for anything other than Ranger Broadcasts (and some shows)

www.weatherunderground.net radar, forecasts, the whole thing.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Jun 29, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

How long has this been going on? First I've heard of it.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

It got serious yesterday

I almost didn’t get HOI coverage on a deal closing tomorrow. State Ins Board already issued an alert statewide.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

ugh, glad you got it in prior to....will the lender make you get a 442 prior to funding?

Had accounts in FL I always hated that one…

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

We are the lender

DE shop, FTW!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, forgot about that.

gangsta lean

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff Beck

..he was awesome in the Yardbirsds…but so was Clapton and Page….

"Few things go together as well as Country & Western music and crazy people" Bob Dylan

by walrus52 on Jun 29, 2010 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

wakka wakka wakka

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I bet we will get the first Doucheface sighting

5 minutes in.

"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll take the under on that 5 minutes...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 29, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just pretend he's holding back massive green squirts, it helps.

That is exactly what his face looks like to me.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't understand why broadcast teams feel the need to zoom in on the manager 20 times per inning.

FSSW does it with Wash too. I’m pretty sure everyone does it, actually, and it gets even worse when a big-name manager is in the dugout like Torre or Scioscia or LaRussa.

I really don’t know why they think we want to look at these bastards faces 180 times per game.

"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland

by LSJ on Jun 29, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only one that realy bugs me is Doucheface.

I want to smack that look off his face every single time. It doesn’t even matter which particular Doucheface he’s making, either.

"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Jun 29, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The one I can’t stand is Torre. Can’t really explain why, but he actually bugs me more than Scioscia.

"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland

by LSJ on Jun 29, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

They're trying

to catch one of them picking his nose.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Jun 29, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random question:

Is the rule still in place for the ASG that there has to be one representative from each team? If so, Strasburg doesn’t belong.

Pudge should go, plain n simple.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Okay

Is this a joke, or serious?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

DEAD serious.

You don’t think Pudge belongs? Are you joking or serious?

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pudge was hot early in the season

now, not so much

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, I just looked him up. Still thought he was among the league leaders.

So yeah, I look stupid there. But Capps is still getting it done.

I just don’t think the kid belongs due to his start date. There needs to be a rule in place for circumstances such as this.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

If the Nats only get one player in, it would be Ryan Zimmerman.

But the argument that it should be Pudge is specious. Pudge hasn’t been good this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

You say Zimmerman over Capps?

Really?

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Big time

You should look at numbers before you post

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Zimmerman has had an excellent season thus far.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Capps is at .5

and is 25th amongst relievers in the NL.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

22

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

league leader. What's your sarcastic point?

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't understand what your argument is based on

1) You could argue that it’s who the fans would want to be there → Strasburg

2) You can argue that it’s who gives the team the best chance to win → Strasburg

3) You can argue it’s who has the best stats to date → Strasburg has more wins, less losses, more strikeouts, equal walks, less homers, and less hits.

So unless ‘saves’ is the only category of importance to you, I don’t really understand why you are trying to argue this.

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

never said saves mattered to me.

Let’s keep all closers out of the game. Why not.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that and ERA...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 29, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you add Saves, Holds, and ERA

You get the SHERA—preferred statistic of Irish people

Capps SHERA has a 25.48 SHERA. That ranks top 3 in the league

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

and wins for SPs

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Jun 29, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No question

And while I don’t view Fangraphs’ WAR data as the be-all end-all, if you are looking at that, Strasburg has the highest WAR among Nats’ pitchers.

I’m not sure how you can argue that a reliever with an ERA around 3 and a half should be in the All Star game ahead of either Zimmerman or Strasburg.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since when is WAR the end all/be all determining factor in to getting in, though?

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about...

…who should be in, or who will be selected?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not the fan vote. That can't be altered. Obviously.

So I guess manager selections. Or reserves.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

That wasn't my question

When you talk about the determining factor to getting in, are you asking when determining who should get in, or who the managers/players pick?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus dude

He specifically said

And while I don’t view Fangraphs’ WAR data as the be-all end-all

Stop being so stupid.

by brettgardner on Jun 29, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

31.2

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, in another week or so...

…he’ll have more IP than Capps will.

So you can’t even justify Capps over Strasburg by arguing Strasburg hasn’t pitched enough to be named to the team.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stras is a starter and Capps is a closer.

Stras should have more IP.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what?!

you just killed your point! Since when should a closer have more IP than a starter?!

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't kill my point

It makes no sense to argue that Capps should be in the ASG instead of Strasburg because Strasburg hasn’t pitched enough in the majors, when the reality is that Strasburg will have pitched more in the majors by the ASG than Capps will have.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, you think there should be a minimum IP

for closers before the ASG?

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

It’s not unreasonable to demand that a starting pitcher headed to the all star game have more than 40ish innings pitched. It’s also not crazy to say it’s ok for Capps to have way fewer innings. I think the IP comparison between Strasburg and Capps is a total red herring.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to see someone agrees.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd pay to listen to the podcast

where AJM discusses Strasburg in the AS Game with Mitch Williams.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

AS Game - it's for the fans

Strasburg has sold more tickets this year per game played than any other player in the league.

He should be a lock to go.

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would have no problem with him going

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, since the game is all about winning homefield

I want the extra home game played here this fall.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I do want him there...

For a single inning of work, against an AL lineup of guys who have never faced him, you can’t get better than that.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the fans my ass.

Tell that to the two teams that play for whole damn thing in October, bub.

Tell that to the fans in MIL that got to see a tie.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you were one of the teams that had a chance to make it to the

World Series in the NL. Who would you rather have pitching against the NL in the 7th, 8th, or 9th: Strasburg or Capps?

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leake

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leake over Strasburg?

Oh good lord….

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

1.3 WAR vs 1.5 of Stras

Not that much difference, bub.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Extrapolate

Strasburg’s IPs out to Leake’s if you will, bub.

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by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

31.2(stras) to 86.1(Leake)

So? Leake started the season on the MLB roster, didn’t he?

Not his fault he’s gotten more gametime in than Stephen.

Look, I’d have no problem if Stras had started the season on the 40man, but he didn’t till June and now some other player who is having an ASG type season who’s been here since April 1st might have to pay for that, and that, my friend, is just wrong.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fine. 25 man.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

so Dontrelle Willis didnt deserve to go

in 03?

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

he came up in May.

Not june.

So did Liriano.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well you didnt add the qualifier

so according to your OWN “logic” then they didnt deserve to be all stars

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by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

never made a standard though.

 I think there should be a cut off date to be eligible for the ASG.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

you got a hard on for stras, don't ya.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

me.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

not being gay for Stras

is gay

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by jam0152 on Jun 29, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
Tell that to the two teams that play for whole damn thing in October, bub.

But that’s why there are representatives from every team, and why the managers treat it like a Little League game where everyone has to play.

If it really “counted,” then we’d have 25 man rosters, no requirement that every team be represented, and the best players would play the whole game.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

against the AL, sorry

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by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is for the fans.

Selig’s wackiness doesn’t change that.

In fact, the “now it counts” stuff is just more evidence that he’s trying to please the fans. He’s trying to make it more meaningful to watch. It’s not a favor to the players that home field is determined in the ASG instead of just by best record or whatever.

by Closure GT on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I don't think Pudge belongs

He’s not close to being one of the N.L.’s best catchers this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell

I’ll even do ya one better! Matt Capps belongs on the NL team before Strasburg. And that’s a fact.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

A little late to the party?

I think I’ve taken enough lashes for this argument. But thanks for your interest.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I agree with you

I really don’t think that either of them belong in the ASG.

for NL relievers I take Brian Wilson, Francisco Rodriguez, Leo Nunez, and Billy Wagner.

for starters: Ubaldo, Wainright, Pelfrey, Carpenter, Halladay, Hudson, Josh Johnson, Yovani Gallardo, Jaime Garcia, Maybe Latos… Maybe Silva as the lone Cub.

Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash

by iblum on Jun 29, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ooooooo-k

You might want to update your relievers.

Marmol and Broxton will be there

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hot......Sports.....Opinion.

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by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would take Adam Dunn...

leads team in HRs OPS and RBIs. He could be the DH so he doesn’t have to play the field.

by trav1102 on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody think the Rangers could get

anything of value by trading Ray or Nippert? Seems to me they might be useful to some team.

by jcAustin on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

If the Rangers were sellers, yes.

But in their current position, it seems unwise to trade away pieces of what has been a strength of the team.

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by ghtd36 on Jun 29, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ray is a strength?

I almost shit myself I get so concerned when he comes in with a lead.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, maybe not him inparticular.

But the idea of selling off parts of one of the strongest units on a winning team seems backwards.

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by ghtd36 on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

There’s at least some thought that Nippert gets DFA’d for the Beltre call up, so I don’t see how a trade idea is that far fetched

by Topgun22 on Jun 29, 2010 10:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nippert gets claimed.

I don’t think there’s any way he slides through.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

So if you're considering DFA'ing him anyways

Probably better to trade him — I think that was Topgun’s point.

by Trickman on Jun 29, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just an idea for what

they could do to clear a space for Beltre. If they feel good about Ogando staying up I think Ray or Nippert (more likely Ray) might be expendable.

by jcAustin on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

what?

that’s highly, highly doubtful.

by elvis1isking on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think there are teams out there that still live and die by ERA

JD could point to BAA, ERA, the fact that he’s a former closer only getting stronger after his successful surgery

I imagine we could get a B-/B prospect for him in Low A

by BuckyB on Jun 29, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

A B/B- prospect?

I’d do that trade TODAY.

There’s no way we get something like that for Ray. He’s a reliever still battling back from TJ surgery who struggles with his command.

We’re not getting a B level prospect Bucky. Be great if we could, but we’re not. Ray probably wouldn’t make it through waivers, but we wouldn’t get anything of any real value at all for him.

by elvis1isking on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I bet we could get a fringe C+/C prospect for him that’s a couple years away.

Someone like a younger Kiker-type perhaps.

Basically a flyer on a relatively low-ceiling/raw type.

by Trickman on Jun 29, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even a Hamburger-esque

level prospect is iffy.

Now, if Ray finds his command… that’s a different story. Though, if he does that he becomes plenty valuable enough that we don’t trade him anyway.

by elvis1isking on Jun 29, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

A hot dog

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Jun 29, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

is it a dollar dog?

cuz I might be in on that deal…

by elvis1isking on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Myers, Carmona, and Lilly are Norm's top 3 targets

Makes sense, I suppose.

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by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Ted Lilly?

That’d be kind of fun, admit it.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

What would it take to get each..

I know none of the 5 and no one currently on the big club…

Right?

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by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh to all of them

And Carmona, I wouldn’t take if the Indians were giving him away…not with $6.1 million owed for next season. Although I doubt Norm is taking that into account.

I don’t think we need to bring a random arm in just to bring a random arm in.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he was looking at cost this year vs performance

And not looking to break the prospect piggy bank. I didn’t hear the entire segment though.

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Myers has had a nice year so far

and he’s an upgrade over what we’re rolling out there as the #5 these days… so there is some argument for him.

The other 2 are pretty meh, though.

by elvis1isking on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want Myers anywhere near my team

but he is a better talent than what we’re rolling out there now so at least there’s a discussion to be had regarding him.

by elvis1isking on Jun 29, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

meh indeed

rangers might be better rolling with what they have than giving any value for any of those 3

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by rentz on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lilly has been really good lately

although there was a STBF outing v the Angels.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You were at Wrigley Field

for a day game on a weekend…I’m sorry, it’s difficult to feel sympathetic towards you.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which bars

before / afterwards?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

Well my sister (until last week) lived about 3 blocks away from the stadium on West Cornelia, so I’ve been just about everywhere in that neighborhood.

Before that particular game, we were at an ALS fundraiser at Goose Island. Directly after the game, we went to her place, then I met another friend and we went out to various other places around the Belmont stop of the Red Line – we were going to a stand up showcase, so we just kind of wandered around before and after the show.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

That place

and the surrounding neighborhood is the gold standard of how it should be done.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

and Cubbie Bear’s is awesome

by BEW on Jun 29, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

is Idaho in America?

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by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couer d' Aleane (sp?) is pretty sweet.

Poor Man’s Tahoe.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been there

Not bad…but it ain’t the North Side.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lived in Wrigleyville for a year...concurrance of the highest order.

Wait til the game starts and take the scalpers for 50% of face value.
They let you bring drinks in and the 7-11 across the street sales big gulps and liquor….

Ode to be 20 again.

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by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

One of the most hilarious experiences I have had in Wrigleyville...

….was in 2007 when the Cubs were at home for Game 3 of the ALDS (can’t remember with whom), and were down 0-2 in the series, on their way to being swept.

A friend and I were wandering from nearer to downtown up the street straight towards the stadium, and it was sometime around the 7th or 8th innings. The closer to the stadium we got, the more despondent, zoned out, sad Cubs fans just shuffling around with no purpose in life we saw. And I lauuughed and lauuughed.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Must be a MLB conspiracy if the Cubs were in the

ALDS. ;)

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by bioaggie on Jun 29, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha, I could only imagine...was bad enough sometimes during the reg season.

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by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

reminds me of the gallaraga, caminiti, and velarde in 01.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

None of those guys make any sense at all

Well, maybe Myers if all we’re looking to do is add a mid-rotation piece, but I don’t think we need that if Holland comes back healthy.

Lilly and Carmona though, bleah.

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by LSJ on Jun 29, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

raising hand

“I can be a mid-rotation piece” says Rich Harden

Thank you Houston for drafting Jason Castro.

by RangerMad on Jun 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't see you

Holland is jumping up and down in front of you.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Easy Dutch, you'll tweak that knee again....

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by bking on Jun 29, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes it's just too easy to ruffle feathers.

I’m surprised diggler and gardner haven’t caught wind of this and came on the attack.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Why do people like to do this?

You are trying to piss people off en masse?

by ab03 on Jun 29, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

We’re allowed to tell our opinion in here, yes? My opinion is that Stras doesn’t belong in the ASG based off one month’s performance.

Hypothetical – Strasburg makes his first start the day before the final ballots/managers selections, etc are due to the league office. He throws a perfect game. Does he belong in on one game’s result?

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who gives a flying fuck about the ASG?

That is the larger question here, and you might be a baseball pinhead for taking up 1/2 of this thread arguing about it.

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jun 29, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

Even I don’t care this year, and I usually like to get wrapped up in dissecting the leaderboards and explaining why the voters are dumb.

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by LSJ on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with ya there.

Voters are dumb.

Rod – I set the trap, they fall in to it….

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you setting up traps?

Why are you trying to argue with people when you don’t care?

by ab03 on Jun 29, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who said I didn't care? Not I, said the fly.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

what does the trap line mean then?

You say something inflammatory to invite argument? Do you know what that makes you?

by ab03 on Jun 29, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

An Inflammatory Trap Line Setter?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe the answer he

was looking for was troll.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't condone trolling.

I made an opinion, based on very bad judgment and not looking up any stats, I stood by it, argument ensued, and I got torched.

Not exactly trolling. I wasn’t arguing just to argue. That’s just plain suicide. Especially in this room.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

i just skip past the arguing in threads these days

which means i get through a 500 post thread in like 5minutes

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by rentz on Jun 29, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
My opinion is that Stras doesn’t belong in the ASG based off one month’s performance.

That’s fine, and if you’d just said that, the response would have been different. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable position to take.

But when you say, Pudge Rodriguez should be in the ASG, or Matt Capps, that doesn’t make any sense.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I took back the Pudge part, sir.

I still think Capps belongs over Stras if it came down to only one player from Washington getting in.

Just my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

You said it was a fact.

by brettgardner on Jun 29, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

And you believed that? You're dumber than I thought.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Basically,

I believe that he is simply trying to save face here. He had a stance that was proven wrong. Now he is trying to say it was all an act so he doesnt look stupid.

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

that’s working out well

by ab03 on Jun 29, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

Im sure it sounded good in his head.

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by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I excel in looking stupid.

I don’t need morons like gardner or diggler to back it up for me. Hell, look at my sig for god’s sake.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Capps does belong over the rookie, he has not earned

the right to be in the all star game, would it be great for baseball publicity wise, of course but it is not fair the player he replaces. just ones mans opinion.

by TRFAN on Jun 29, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

God forbid something bad happens to Stras post ASG.

Remember Liriano in ’06?

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait

what does this have to do with anything?

by sbk00 on Jun 29, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Liriano started the season 9-1 in '06, went to the ASG, then went down with TJS.

His approach was just as ferocious as Strasburg’s is today.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

I just don’t see how that’s relevant to the discussion.

by sbk00 on Jun 29, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm the dude....

….playing the dude disguised as another dude!!!!

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

D shep

hes back ? where the hell was he?

by icouldusesomebaseball on Jun 29, 2010 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

look to your right.

Also, look his page up, he has a little letter to us all.

keyword – hello

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

how do you search for a username?

and i dont see anything to the right??

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 29, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

This post for me is #12345

I just thought you guys should know that.

I’m going to mark the occasion by saying: “Mario Ramos”

by cmkelly29 on Jun 29, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

should've gone the "Spaceballs" route.

1,2,3,4,5? Amazing! That’s the combination to my luggage!

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

9505th for me

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

tha hell?!

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

That guy in the yellow...

he raps.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 29, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Twist, don't forget he mans some mean turntables.....he is the bane of my existence...

worst part is they used to be on Nick only….now they’re on Nick Jr which my son watches….they have infiltrated our living room after me taking a stance they’d never do so.

Father Fail.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fortunatley

I have never seen the the actual show. However, I cringe when I hear, “Now it’s time to move to the music”. The little guy loves it though…

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 29, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh yeah....my kid goes nutz..tries to sing along with it and dances...so it makes it tolerable.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

The guy in the yellow yellow, or the guy in the puke yellow?

‘Cause I just can’t see the guy in the yellow yellow rapping anywhere but in his bathroom.

"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland

by LSJ on Jun 29, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

tall white boy

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

He should be shot

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jun 30, 2010 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

What a horrible show.

I haven’t decided if I think KiKi is good looking or not.

Marina is weird.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

the Mrs hates KiKi.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I don’t mind Dora…I like Boots…you always have to be on the lookout for Swiper though….

Diego and his Baby Jaguar rule my son’s face….every time the “BackPack” song comes on, he goes bananas.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's it. Goes nuts man, it's awersome.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

The reason I hate Dora and Diego:

They yell and YELL AND YELL.

They also have 0 manners..

Dora: SAY “FUCKNUTS”.. COME ON SAY FUCKNUTS!

Diego with his: “TO HELP THE HORSE.. MAKE A SEMI-FIST AND MOVE IT BACK AND FORTH AROUND MY GROIN!! DO IT! FUCKING DO IT!”

by cmkelly29 on Jun 29, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh..

I mean my daughter loves them, she freaks. She loves Boots to no end.

Some of the shows aren’t terrible. Team UmiZoomi is an original idea, so that’s cool.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 29, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's up with the toons "Max and Ruby" and "Toot and Puddles"

Where are their fucking parents?

Ruby and Dora are going to hook up with one another when they get to college.

Ruby and Dora: “Roommates”

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dora and Diego

are big players in my house. Also, Wonder Pets!. I like Handy Manny, and Mickey Mouse Clubhouse…mostly because I like to sing the song at the end.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 29, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wonder Pets FTW.

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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never seen that

the one in pink looks like the girl from Imagination Movers.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it sure does...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 29, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

braggarts

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 29, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is

just joshin

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jun 29, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well you arent there anymore now, are ya?!

"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales

by Michael Cave on Jun 29, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy crap.

I went to read the Halos Heaven Rangers preview, and while it’s extremely homerish, the article is what it is. The comments, however. Wow.

Every time I go there I really regret it, yet I still do a few times a year. What a bunch of rocket scientists.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I would swear that Robbie ghost wrote this
7. Justin Smoak (1B): .225 / .340 / .395 in 238 PA

Despite the low batting average, this kid terrifies me more than anyone else on the Rangers’ roster. He’s huge, he switch hits, he has a solid glove, and he hits the ball really hard. When you consider that as a 23 year-old he has an outstanding 15.1% walk rate (sixth-highest in baseball) with a manageable 24.5% K-rate, his future looks really, really scary. The obvious comparison is Mark Teixeira, but honestly, I’m not sure if even Mark Teixeira has a chance of being as good as Smoak is likely to be soon. Smoak has been incredibly unlucky on balls in play, just a .255 BABIP backed by a 23.5% line-drive rate, which says to me that his bat is ready to explode, right here and right now. He has megatons of power, but scouts say his line-drive approach probably won’t produce as many home runs as, say, Teixeira. But a potential 25-30 HR threat along with a .300 batting average, tons of doubles, and an OBP north of .400 is something to take extremely seriously in the next few seasons (if not the remainder of this season). Watch this name very closely.

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Jun 29, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

They don't know Ogando's story

which is understandable, but fairly easy to find out. Just go to his wiki page and look at the section labeled “Human trafficking ring”

by sbk00 on Jun 29, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody even linked a story from the FWST....

….and they continue to assume he was some kind of slaver. What a bunch of jerkoffs.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah just went over there.....jeez.

Nice try by DShep

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, do we know exactly what these women were being brought here for??

It probably wasn’t to work for Drop-in Maids…..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 29, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Beltre and Ogando were the ones that brought them over?

I’m not denying that they have culpability in this whole thing….but it’s not like they were chaining women to the hold of The Black Rock and setting sail with them at the wheel.

by FuturePants on Jun 29, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most heinous crime on earth!

It sounded like the guy thought he was the leader of a sex slave operation or something, I had to say something.

Rev’s reply to me was so very weak. Apostrophes? Really?

by DShep on Jun 29, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda hard to come up with a quality burn when you're douching it up like this guy:

Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."

by TXHC on Jun 29, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

is that Victor Conte on the left?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jun 29, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

SwissMiss's posts are cracking me up over there.

He post one measly pic, and all hell breaks loose.

Kind of reminds me of, well, me…..

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

another gem
That lineup makes me shit potatos

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Jun 29, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know...

I think we look at Halos Heaven the same way that Atheists view religious people.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 29, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

More like how atheists look at agnostics....

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jun 29, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ask SLC Ranger

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."

by Josey Wales on Jun 29, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong TR...

the M’s and A’s are toast.

Somebody find me a fork.

They’re done.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 29, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I Doubt that the A's are done, only 10 back with a long way to go and they have done it before

famous for 2nd half push as are the Angels, so lets not all get ahead of ourselves and start buying world series tickets just yet. the rangers have a very tough 2nd half the other 2 teams have a much easier sked, i want to see how we play the Angels, Yanks, Tigers, Red Sox and Twins before i get in line for the tickets

by TRFAN on Jun 29, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay...

first off – ‘they have done it before’ means nothing for this year.

Secondly – ‘only 10 games back’, I think you are underestimating how often or tough it is to come back from 10 games. Even if it is just at the ASB.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 29, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re: the ownership situation

while it would suck to go back to bid, it’d be pretty cool if a dude named Jeff Beck owned this team…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 29, 2010 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

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