Thursday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 9:53 AM CDT
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PrintYou know, it must suck as an Angels fan to look at last night's game, see that the guy you traded for last season who is owed $20 million through next year, who was supposed to be your staff ace, got slapped around yet again, and this time by one of the most popular Angels ever, who your team let walk to a division rival. And meanwhile, your team could only muster 4 runs despite seeing Dustin Nippert and some unknown guy making his first major league appearance for seven innings.
Not the best of outings yesterday for Omar Beltre, who clearly was dealing with jitters in the first, and also didn't have good command at all, but who showed some pretty impressive stuff. To put Beltre's journey into perspective, think about this...Omar Beltre is older than veteran Ranger players Rich Harden and Ian Kinsler.
Jeff Wilson's game story talks about Vladimir Guerrero continuing to terrorize his former team.
Rhett Bollinger also hits on the "Vlad getting his revenge" theme.
Evan Grant says that the Rangers' playoff chances depend on the performance of their rotation, with Jon Daniels continuing to say that the Rangers are going to trade for a starting pitcher only if they can get an upper-echelon guy...they apparently aren't interested in a Jeremy Guthrie warm-body type.
The Rangers website notes include Josh Hamilton's hitting streak and Ian Kinsler impressing Ron Washington with his recent play.
Wilson's notes also talk about Kinsler, along with Scott Feldman's problems with his sinker this year.
Randy Galloway says that the Rangers need to make a move to improve the team before the trade deadline. I assume he's not talking about Bengie Molina (and more on the Molina trade in a separate post this morning).
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I do like the fact that
the Rangers arent interested in the Guthrie types. I mean if they make a trade might as well make for a real difference maker.
I really hope the CJ brings his A game today because Weaver is a tough pitcher
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
CJ
I’m starting to get worried about him. His B/9 jumped to 5.63 for June, and his swinging strike percentage (6.3) is down to Feldman/Millwood-esque levels. He’s also started allowing a shitload more fly balls, as his FB% has increased every month so far, and jumped 8 points in June.
I dunno if it’s because of the increase in innings, SSS, or just regression but I’m feeling a crash coming sooner or later if he keeps trending like this.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
Back to the pen in August
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 1, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't.
I’m not confident we’re going to have a real 5-man rotation in August. I think if we can get a Lilly or Carmona cheap, we should do it.
Well, what's "cheap"?
I think I agree with you in theory.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know our farm system well enough to tell you.
But I assume we could make a deal for one of those guys without touching the pentavirate or the pentagon or whatever it is we’re calling our stud prospects these days.
Points to you though
for using my favorite name for the top 5: Pentavirate haha
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 1, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Well it always matters on price
If we can get carmona or lilly for a pupu platter of prospects of course you do it. I just dont think it will be cheap.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Derek Holland waves hello.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
1-0
Since the great Ray Molina trade
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Well, now I'm crying.
I hope you’re happy.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Oh, what a day.
Happy 30th birthday, Nelson Cruz.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I can't wait for Nellie to find his groove again
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Yeah...
…I think he’s 100-percent or close to it, but he hasn’t settled back in. When he does, and if Hammykins and Vlad can stay hot, holy crap.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I love Vlad and his smile.
Beltre’s performance was encouraging.
Elvis is so friggin awesome.
It was white-knuckle ride with Nips there for a while.
Frankie Frank was nails last night too.
All in all a fun night!
Oh, and welcome Javier, Alfred, Benjie
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
heh
FireJerryManuel bengie molina + texas summers = melting turd
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
i love the word "punk" and "turd"
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 1, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Fangraphs with some chart-laden Vlad love
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-impaler-lives/
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
Question....does anyone know
if the Halos Heaven F-bomb quota was used on Vlad’s grand slam or his 2nd HR?
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 1, 2010 10:03 AM CDT reply actions
Rangers one was used the night before
But do you seriously care about what fans are saying about their team on a rivals blog?
Lone Star Ball - 2010 -- It's time
I'm a believer
by Mark from OC on Jul 1, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
no...I don't...
I’m just starting to hate the Angels more and more (rivaling my hatred for the Yankees) and starting to enjoy their suffering…..
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Man, Mark from OC
You’re like the troll police, aren’t you? I think you respond to every single post referring to HalosHeaven talking about how lame it is for people to be talking about Halos Heaven.
Or any other blog
It just seems like people are overly concerned about this as opposed to how great the Rangers have been doing. I prefer to focus on the Rangers.
Lone Star Ball - 2010 -- It's time
I'm a believer
by Mark from OC on Jul 1, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Good lord
Stop it people.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
Let's remember this when we play the Mariners
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
LL is at least worth reading.
But if you’ll notice, you don’t see me constantly linking over there during Mariner series either.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
The Rev proposed this morning...
…a Scott Kazmir and Hank Conger for Cliff Lee trade.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Too much gangia mixed with all that industrial waste in his area
He might be…
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I rounded down from .045%.
The massive amount of suck is winning.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Rangers rotation
Colby, Hunter, Wilson, with Holland as either early relief or 4th starter which is not always necessary in the playoffs. If the playoffs started now, I have no problem with this rotation and think it would take the Rangers deep into the playoffs.
Lone Star Ball - 2010 -- It's time
I'm a believer
I don't exactly
have confidence in Holland until he returns to form as a healthy pitcher.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I wouldn't go that far
but I’m definitely not overly optimistic
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
We just have to pray nobody ever hits a ground ball to him.
Seems like every time he is doing fielding drills his kneecap flys off.
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
I've written off this season for Holland as well.
If he comes back healthy and effective, I’ll be shocked.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
2 knees injuries and a shoulder injury and we aren't at the All Star break
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
Numbness in fingertips, shoulder pain
two knee injuries…why push it?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
This I definitely agree with
don’t rush it, err on the side of caution.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
That's why I didn't include him as one of the 3
With all the off days in the post season, a 3 man rotation can get it done. Holland only comes into play if someone is chased early, and you cou could have Feldman for that roll, too.
Lone Star Ball - 2010 -- It's time
I'm a believer
by Mark from OC on Jul 1, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
A 4/5th starter and a falling apart former setup man?
Yeah, I feel great about that vs. Boston/NYY….
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 1, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a pretty optimistic assessment
though I can’t be as dark about it as Kinslerhomer. Lewis is a good 2nd starter, Wilson a good 3rd, Hunter ideally a 4th. I think the Rangers are smart to be considering adding an ace at the top of that instead of pushing those guys up a notch.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Well I am a Rangers fan
And an optimistic one. So and optimistic assessment is probably in my beingness. That being said, I have higher confidence in Hunter than a 4th starter.
Lone Star Ball - 2010 -- It's time
I'm a believer
by Mark from OC on Jul 1, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
So far this season Hunter is 4-0
with a 2.14 ERA, a 1.07 WHIP and better than a 2/1 K/BB rate.
Even with a FIP of 3.44 I’d say he’s better than a number 4 starter.
Oh, nevermind. He's guaranteed to continue doing that, small sample be damned
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Even with some regression
that’s a mighty small sample.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Oh, I agree he's been very good
better than expected. Let’s put it this way: I would not put it past him to develop into more of a 3rd starter than a LAIE type, but right now it isn’t wise to count on it in planning for the rest of 2010. That’s my focus here, this season and the playoffs. The original post I responded to was pretty optimistic about that bunch going deep into the playoffs. It could happen, but I think it’s optimistic to say the odds favor it.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I dont like the names suggested in todays Newberg mailing as the PTBNL
Fox Sports reporter Jon Paul Morosi writes this morning that the player to be named later in the Bengie Molina trade, which is expected to be made official today, will be a Class A pitcher. ESPN’s Buster Olney tweets (@Buster_ESPN) that the player will be a "mid-tier prospect." That would theoretically include candidates like Wilfredo Boscan, Jake Brigham, Fabio Castillo, Michael Main (who has been promoted to Frisco), Carlos Pimentel, Neil Ramirez, Braden Tullis, and Corey Young. Do not fear that a guy like Wilmer Font or Robbie Ross or Matt Thompson or Joe Wieland being part of this deal.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Chris Ray and Carlos Pimentel for Bengie Molina is a deal I can live with.
Ray + Main or Font or Ross or Thompson or Wieland, less so.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I wouldn't lose sleep over Pimentel
But some of those other names I wouldn’t bee too pleased with giving up for a slow not that great catcher
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
They bought salary relief with a prospect that will be lost in the shuffle here, I think.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Anybody in that list...
…other than Tullis and Main would be okay with me.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree AJM, nothing like falling in love with guys that will probably never make the big leagues.
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
Thats not the point
it’s having to include guys like that to buy salary relief to bring in a catcher that on paper isn’t much better than what you have already
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I would personally rather see Molina behind the plate in a playoff game than Max.
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
in front of his plate of food too.
The boy clearly likes to eat. Its not like Max is raking, makes no difference to me.
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
ditto, I think
I’d cringe a bit at Boscan but I think he’s not going to turn out to be much.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
guys like Boscan
are types you you want to do well so that they can be parts of trade packages
Go Rice Owls!
Just not this type of trade package
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Boscan would have to do a lot better
to be part of a bigger trade package
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
yeah
Say what you will about Molina, but you need to have guys like low-ceiling but productive guys like Boscan as trade chips when your team wants to go out and get some small piece that you’ve decided, for whatever reason, that you need. These guys give the selling team enough of an incentive to eat some money and part with a part of their team. Like it or not, teams don’t just give players away.
I’ve long thought that one reason the Rangers have had bad trades like the Hafner for Einar Diaz deal or the Gonzalez for Eaton deal is that they didn’t have middle-tier prospects like Boscan or Moreland to spend on them.
Go Rice Owls!
Interesting thought
I had never thought about that
I'd include boscan in the guys I dont want being part of it
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Ditto.
TULLIS!
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 1, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah yes, $20mil for a 5.67 ERA...and some were screaming at the Rangers for not getting Kaz...
Oh, and guess who had the higher game score last night???
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Why is Grant citing Carmona as an example
when he talks about adding to the top of the rotation?
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Because he won like 19 games about 5 years ago
heh
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Duh
The only time he’s been in the news was when he was good. No news must mean he’s still good.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Vladdy on the Sports Center open
Rangers lead story (behind all the Lebron NBA free agency stuff, of course)
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
That was cool
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
So this is how fans of the Phoenix Suns
felt in 2005 when Little Stevie Nash kept torching the Mavs for 45 points a game in the playoffs…they must have really thought Cuban et al were idiots.
What a player that Vlad Guerrero is…I always liked him from a far but wow…what a player.
It’d be nice to win tonight but we still 14 games left with these boys. Keep perspective.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
x
So this is how fans of the Phoenix Suns felt in 2005 when Little Stevie Nash kept torching the Mavs for 45 points a game in the playoffs…they must have really thought Cuban et al were idiots.
In between sobs, maybe.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Mavs fans who weren't drinking the Cuban Kool-Aid...
…also thought that Cuban was an idiot for letting Nash go.
As did Don Nelson.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I understood why the Mavs did it...
There are very few guards worth a damn in their mid 30s plus Nash himself has said that he got serious about his health and diet after leaving Dallas.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
There are very few above-the-rim guys like Shawn Marion...
…who are worth big money into their mid-30s, and yet Cuban pulled the trigger there.
Hell, he turned around and gave the money he wouldn’t give Nash to Erick Dampier, who was not only 30, but also wasn’t good.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Those are different things.
That says nothing about the Nash decision.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
The Mavs also went further
in the playoffs without Nash than with him.
Your two best players can’t be your two worst defensive players and that’s what Nash/Dirk were with the Mavs.
Also, the player that Phoenix received is not the player we saw in Dallas.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
That's the part nobody gives credit to
Nash was always a very good player. But damn did he rise to a completely different tier once he went to Phoenix. There’s no way to predict that kind of jump in production from a 30+ PG
x
Your two best players can’t be your two worst defensive players and that’s what Nash/Dirk were with the Mavs.
That’s probably true, too. Maybe trying to work out a sign and trade would have been better. Maybe he should have gone for less years. But the thought process was not flawed.
Giving a gigantic contract to Damp absolutely was flawed. Giving one to Terry was flawed. The Marion one looks pretty flawed already.
No doubt Cuban has made poor moves, but it’s amazing to me how little credit Adam gives to the success of the franchise. Losing early in the playoffs fucking blows, but winning that many games for that long is pretty impressive. And half of the success has been without Nash and Finley.
I mean, we see great players that languish around shitty teams all the time. It’s impressive what’s been done here in the grand scheme. Obviously I want to see a championship, and I don’t think the present roster can deliver one. But it’s pretty damn hard to win a championship in the NBA. The Mavs almost did it. Hope they finish the deal soon.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Cuban wanted to do a sign-and-trade
The Suns refused.
Nash gave the Mavs the opportunity to match what Phoenix offered, and the Mavs passed.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
And that's not a flawed decision.
It just looks bad after the fact.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
And how many times have you defended
Wash for making what seemed to be a good decision that had bad results, Adam.
Matt Harrison, 8th inning in Cleveland, Rangers lead 2-0. First two batters get on base, Harrison (coming off an arm injury) is at 114 pitches and about to face the number one threat (Choo) in the Tribe line-up.
You defended that decision to let Harrison face Choo (who hit a 3-run bomb).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
I don't think it was a good decision
And it also belies the “Cuban will spend whatever it takes to win” mantra that his media sycophants put out there.
Cuban just didn’t want to spend the money on him.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
And it also belies the "Cuban will spend whatever it takes to win" mantra that his media sycophants put out there.
He obviously didn’t think it would help them win. Or if it did, the contract would hinder them even more.
You’re not being rational about this.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
So...
You are saying Mark Cuban thought the team would be no better with Steve Nash on the roster than with Steve Nash not on the roster?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
No
Which is why I said it was about the contract. You can’t just evaluate the player without the contract. Cuban thought, as I did, that Nash had probably 2, maybe 3 good years left.
Teams get bitten giving out big contracts to 30+ guys. The fact that you rag on Cuban for doing that very thing makes this argument of yours puzzling, to say the least.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I find it strange that...
…Nash was the guy he chose to draw the line at, when the team was supposedly building towards a championship.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't find it that strange.
Nash was and is a very poor defender, and the Mavs were looking to improve on their perimeter defense for the playoffs. Couple that with the near-universal belief that Nash wasn’t too far off from falling apart completely, and the decision made sense.
I mean, to me, the deal would have roughly been analogous to the Mike Young contract.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Cuban has
said that he saw what Nash had to do before and after every game to get ready and that was factored into the decision.
Nash also said the Mavs letting him go kicked him in the ass to take better care of himself.
What gets lost in all of this is that the player Phoenix received is not the player we saw in Dallas…and exactly how far did the Suns go in the playoffs with Amare, Joe Johnson, a young Shawn Marion et al?
Oh, that’s right…they kept getting punked every spring by the San Antonio Spurs.
It was a very tough decision and easy to criticize but I still think Cuban did the right thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
"Cuban has said that he saw what Nash had to do before and after every game to get ready and that was factored into the decision."
what did he have to do before and after every game?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Justice Souter is 100% right about this.
I don’t watch the NBA anymore, but I used to follow the team very closely. Cuban and the Mavs FO were haunted by the fact that Nash and Finely were torched over and over again by the likes of Mike Bibby and Bobby Jackson in the playoffs. They wanted to go in a different direction, and that meant finding good perimeter defenders.
Yeah
It’s easy to criticize after the fact but Josey is right. I was a Nash fan but I thought what the Suns signed him for was way too much. But it was the perfect storm with better finishers on the wing in Phoenix coupled with a free for all coach in D’Antoni.
How does it bely that mantra,
when he ended up spending the money elsewhere? It’s not like he just pocketed the Nash money and cut spending on the team.
Because he could have signed Nash...
…and not impacted his ability under the cap to spend that money elsewhere.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
At the time
it also seemed like we needed point guards who could keep up with Bibby & Parker…especially Parker.
After 2004, the Laker run with Shaq was over and the team to beat in the West was San Antonio.
Cuban put together a team that could and did beat San Antonio.
I have no problems with Cuban’s plan and it could be argued the Mavs don’t get out of the 2nd round of the 2006 playoffs if they still had Steve Nash.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
Of course...
…Cuban was willing to keep Nash. He wanted to keep Nash, as he said publicly.
He just didn’t want to keep him for the amount of money Phoenix paid him.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
At the time you would have given Nash that many years and money?
Of course I would in hindsight, but Nash’s improvement would have been pretty tough to foretell.
I thought they wouldn't have had the cap space to add Dampier* if they had re-signed Nash?
Am I remembering that wrong?
*insert obvious jokes here
Yes.
Neither of the deals had anything to do with cap space.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think it was a good decision
to let Harrison face Choo, either.
Cuban didn’t want to spend the money because most, as in probably 90% of guards aren’t worth a damn in their mid 30s (Stockton & Kidd have been exceptions) and he was probably tired of watching Nash get worked over by Bibby and Tony Parker every spring.
I can’t fault Cuban for this or his plan after Nash left.
Now we need a new plan.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
And Cuban would have looked
fairly shrewd if the Mavs close the deal in 2006.
They got to the one-yard line in The Finals (up 2-0, 13 point lead with 6 minutes left in 4th quarter) and then shit all over themselves. They had a pretty good plan in place and were in The Finals two years after Nash left (punked the Suns in WCF).
I have to believe that Cuban has something in place. This off-season is the kind of off-season that can change your history to put it mildly.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
I'm hoping for Jefferson or Kaman with Haywood as Plan B.
Move Marion preferably, Butler in the alternative. I would like Mike Miller, but I don’t think he’d take 3 years. Try to get Anthony Morrow. Maybe Courtney Lee. Take a chance on CJ Miles. Belinelli on the cheap.
There aren’t a lot of great options, which is why it’s tough, but I think you can make the team better.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
lol.
According to every metric that Hollinger made up, Haywood is 10,000% better!
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Terry probably got too many years,
but can teams really avoid having to do that in the current NBA environment?
I wasn't drinking the Cuban Kool-Aid
And I didn’t have a problem with it.
I don’t understand why you have to have such extreme Mavs positions.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Did I accidently pick a
very sensitive LSB scab from the past?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
No.
Adam is just a Mavs troll.
I don’t think I was even here when that went down.
by brettgardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Sweet - a Mavs discussion
I was wondering when we’d get around to talking about them what with the NBA season being over and all.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
He's the LSB Pidgeon
Swoops in, squawks, shits, and then flies away.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I've flown back in because you made a funny
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I would just like to take this moment...
…to express how feckin’ awesome your sig is, Wyo. That is all.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the genius of Fire Joe Morgan
How the heck did that site shut down? I know why they did but it’s still a crime. Some bigger site could have bought them out, they would have made a bunch of money and then they could make me laugh.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Thanks, I was about to ask you and who else?
This scares me a bit:
The Rangers are so loaded with prospects, perhaps they can pull off another cash-neutral deal for Lee, persuading the Mariners to cover most or all of the pitcher’s remaining salary in exchange for better talent.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Heh
The first commenter on the MLBTradeRumors post suggested Harden, Font, Main, and “C level prospect” for Lee. If only…
if thats all it took the trade would have been done last week
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I can't see
Seattle trading Lee and not getting a bat in return. It would have to be Harden, Davis, Font and a C level prospect (DiFazio? Valezquez? Strop?)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
I kinda think Beltre would be the type of guy
Seattle would be very interested in. Good defensive chops, speed, etc.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I still say that trade would be done already
Everyone knows Chris Davis will more than likely never wear a Rangers uniform again, but the powerstroke is still enticing enough to make him a big key to any trade we want to swing.
I make that trade (Harden, Davis, Font, prospect) in a blink.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 1, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would the M's want Harden?
Audition for next year?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
I can't imagine they would
at least not until he came back healthy and showed something, and if he did that, the Rangers likely don’t deal him.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
To make it salary neutral
it would be more something the Rangers ask be included for the trade to go through. The real price would be the prospects.
Doesn't matter
neither Daniels nor anyone else offers Harden arb after this season.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
..
It’s only like $3M, right?
Can the team not get some players to defer their salary? I don’t understand why this isn’t doable
this
I would be asking around the clubhouse for deferments, the problem is, not many make enough to defer a significant amount, and Young is already deferring some.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
The only thing in the way
Is we don’t have any players (that I can think of at the moment) who are making a ton of money. And, (keeping in mind that lifestyles are relative) players aren’t likely to defer who are making “only” a mil or two.
That being said, I imagine Vlad and MY are both in fairly good shape financially, and could find a way to take $3M next year between em.
However,
I don’t know bankruptcy law well enough to know if adding additional creditors like this would be a problem. (I don’t think it is, I just don’t know)
It wouldn't be a new creditor just an expense
Rangers are still debtor-in-possession. You just do debtor-in-possession (DIPs) financing which was already arranged through MLB. MLB is already a creditor and said they’d give the Rangers $X amount. I recall the Lenders offering more than MLB in DIPS financing to lessen MLB’s role in the case.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
can they do deferrments
in bankruptcy? I thought things like that were frozen, but wtf do I know about it.
by elvis1isking on Jul 1, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
What's frozen is the creditors
The business continues to operate. It’s just the Lenders can’t send demand letters, file suit, things like unless they get stay relief from the court (once you file for bankruptcy there’s an automatic stay). So if an employee wanted to take less money right now and get it back later that shouldn’t be a problem I wouldn’t think.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Yeah, stripping the farm system just because we can't afford to pay players salaries
Is an extremely unproductive endgame.
Fucking Hicks.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
by LSJ on Jul 1, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
According to...?
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I like reading this:
Manager Bruce Bochy, a former catcher, staunchly supported Molina, recognizing his value behind the plate.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
heh...
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 1, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
OT
Some guy at a ballgame talking on his cell phone got hit in the face by a ball.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6633405n
There needs to be more of this
by BEW on Jul 1, 2010 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That might be the most productive thing Rob Johnson has ever done.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
by LSJ on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They should play that before games when warning about foul balls
“Don’t be that guy…”
OT:
If you haven’t seen Louis CK’s new show “Louie” on FX, I highly, highly recommend it.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
+1
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
Louie
I saw the first 2 and I was actually slightly unimpressed, I thought Lucky Louie was better.
But I’m sticking with it
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I prefer Life With Louie
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Bengie had a .285 OBP last year (more than 500 plate appearances)
and is at .312 this year.
He’s also passed the magical 1200 games behind the plate mark which is when most catchers hit the wall a la Earnhardt.
Is Treanor hurt or what the hell are we doing? Does this mean Salty is a lost cause?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
I believe the Salty ship has sailed.
Seems pretty obvious what the org thinks of him at the moment.
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
Do you keep 3 catchers in The Show
or is Max going back to OKC?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
I think they will punt Max until rosters expand
They will never play him, might as well send him down, but again, not sure there is a ton of playing time in AAA at catcher.
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
I'd love to keep him
righty bat, might hit a bit better if he’s not catching so often (wholly unsupported gut feeling).
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Treanor
I think the combination of Aybar taking out his legs on that score-from-first on a single and then the foul ball off the knee has the Rangers worried. They’re keeping it quiet, but this plus Max’s recent struggles have us yet again in the market for a catcher.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoa
hit the wall a la Earnhardt
Too soon?
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
Gilbert Gottfried told 9/11 jokes
two months afterwards…we’re safe.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
Just checking
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
If we are living by the Gottfried standard
we are doomed as a civilization
by BEW on Jul 1, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
True that.
I believe…the whole “too soon?” humor thing came from GG’s appearance at The Friars somesuch before he launched into The Aristocrats joke.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
According to many there, the best joke ever told.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Nah.
"Take all that clubhouse [stuff] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [nonsense] for years. Chemistry don't mean [anything]." - Jim Leyland
Maybe my favorite Kinsler quote ever
Hitting the ball out of the ballpark isn’t a part of that [his job in the order]. If it happens, great. But it’s not something that I’m thinking about.
other than “I’m Ian Kinsler Bitch!”
Excellent
/Mr. Burns
People still watch ESPN during baseball season?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
It's so useful as a channel to pass time in the day if you're at home watching TV
It’s also great for recaps.
But their analysis is god-awful most of the time
I wouldn't dislike ESPN so much if I didn't remember it being so much better in the past.
by Closure GT on Jul 1, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!
for the record here
Obviously their analysis is not too great, but I don’t expect the 60 year old guys on ATH and PTI to actually know the ins and outs of every single nba, mlb, nhl and nfl team.. its just not realistic. And the ex-players who love the gritty veteran type is everywhere.
Its mainstream generalized sports themed entertainment, and thats all I’m looking for from them. If you want expertise on specific subjects the internet is where to get it because there are people who obsess with the individual teams, prospects, statistical analysis, etc…
I watch it quite a bit and enjoy it for what it is, it just seems like bashing ESPN relentlessly has become a very in thing to do on the internet beyond whats called for.
Granted I didn’t used to watch it much at all before the past ~6 years, so I don’t have the comparison point you guys seem to.
I don't know man.
If it was my job, I would probably know the ins and outs. I know a lot already, and it’s never been my job.
That's my thought
If it’s your job to know sports you should do a better job. It’s not my job but I’m still WTF about their baseball analysis. But the problem is their focus used to be reporting with a little analysis to being “edgy”. To me the X-Games is when things started going downhill. When they started leading off Sportscenter with highlights from that, an event created by ESPN, they lost their credibility.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
No, apparently I want to know which new Disney movie is coming out
If only we could get one of the actors in the movie to sit in the Budweiser hot chair.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
It's a sequel to Angels in the Outfield,
called Angels in the Courtroom, in which the Angels win the division by sabotaging the sale of the Rangers.
COORS LIGHT FREEZE FRAME OF THE WEEK!
I don’t care about photos when I have moving pictures on my tv.
That's among the dumbest things.
Every now and then I got to SportsCenter to get some sports news. And then I realize why I haven’t watched SportsCenter for a month.
and then Brian Kenny or some other chump reads a user's comments..
it’s always like: “SlappyDildo455 in Anaheim writes: Kobe is da greatest. This picture shows he is da greatest”
Yeah, those things are so stupid.
When I want to read what other people on the internet have to say about something, I’ll look on the internet.
If your TV program is just going to give me comments from the internet, why would I want to watch it instead of going to the source?
Well, perhaps a little higher standard is called for
Ultimately its not that I think its a great station, but so many people seem to just despise them….
It might just be the specialization of things
ESPN used to be “the” source of sport information (although I used to watch the George Michael Sports Machine when I was very young). Now baseball fans can watch MLBN, during NFL you can watch that network and both offer superior quality for your particular sport while ESPN is trying to be a jack of all trades and ends up decent in none.
It just feels to me, as a pretty serious sports fan, I am no longer their demographic. I don’t need PTI or Around the Horn but I can watch MLBN for hours even though they showing the same crap in different forms. I’ve watched the top 80 plays of the week more than once and that’s idiotic on my part but not nearly as dumb as PTI.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
One correction
Everything I’ve bitched about is found at ESPN News so I guess there’s that. Perhaps I’m just nostalgic. As soon as I got my driver’s license I’d got to town (didn’t have cable) and watch sportcenter in the evening at some friend’s house several times a week. It was required viewing if I wanted to be conversant in sports. Now it just makes me dumber.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
you mean people don't need around the clock coverage of
Lebron James and New York sports teams?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
No, what I need is the quick wit of Rick Reilly at various points
His jokes are so subtle I sometimes have to think for a minute to get the punchline. Sometimes hours and even days. At times I never even get the joke because of his nuance.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I don't expect them to know the ins and outs of every single team.
But I do expect them to have a reasonable idea of the topics they plan to discuss that day. And they never do.
Duh-Dah!
According to Jim Duquette of Sirius XM Radio and MLB Network, Cliff Lee told people around the club that Tuesday may have been his last start as a Mariner.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
hmmmmm...very interesting.....
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 1, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Duh-Dah?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
My thoughts exactly.
The fuck is ‘Duh-Dah’?
"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar
by TagDon'tTweet on Jul 1, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Fuck you, go twit something
I’m sick, gimme a break.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
My heart dropped
We surely aren’t getting Cliff Lee, right? These rumors need to not happen until the trade does—it’d be best for me.
Who is calling the shots?
A trade now is not JD’s MO. This would be Nolan pushing JD to do it and thus greatly overpaying for Lee. However, some other club might do it now in order to preempt a Rangers deal.
Trust in JD.
Why would a trade now...
…not be JD’s M.O.?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 1, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty unique situation though
Lee is the only top of the rotation pitcher JD knows he has a real chance at getting with or without ownership, and the Mariners are willing to move him now if they get the offer they want. If he isn’t aggressive, the Rangers could so very easily be stuck with Lee gone, no ownership and no chance at Haren/Oswalt/etc.
Of course, everyone else wants the guy with a 15 k/bb rate too. I can dream.
Haren off the table?
According to Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com, the Phillies are targeting Dan Haren of the Diamondbacks.
According to Crasnick, the Diamondbacks are out scouting Phillies prospects for a possible trade.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
We can best the Phillies package
I guaran-damn-tee it. I just hope the salary implications aren’t too much. And, I will give up Martin Perez for Haren without a salary this season
Haren's got the long term contract though
If teams get serious with him now he will be gone before we have a shot.. if we even get the ownership settled which is obviously very up in the air.
Denial...it ain't just a river.
Know what I’m sayin?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
And now the Phils need to make another trade:
According to Peter Gammons of MLB Network and NESN, Chase Utley is going to need surgery on his right thumb.
Out 5-6 weeks is the speculation.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
trade 'em arias!!
I wish….
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Adam...
Do you have a spare fork you can send fans of the Phillies?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
"Now run along, my question was for Jamey and not the diminutive, sawwed off little twerp from Arkansas who no longer sees the team up close."
by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
haha, good one pops.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If we are giving up Arias, we should get more than Halladay in return.
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
Tiny E and God Mode
Made me jump off the couch in the 8th. The range, the reflexes, the grace….’twas a glorious thing.
"Doctor, I'm getting a little tired of all the innuendo."
"In-YOUR-end-o!"
I just talked to someone at my credit union who said..."Atleast we got Feliz for Teixera"
I said, “Yeah, and Andrus”
He: “Ehhh, I don’t know…”
I said, “Well, at least that got the Statue out from SS”
He said, “He’s in his mid-30’s, when he was younger he was the best”
I then pulled out my penis and peed all over his mortgage applications.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 1, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You're gonna need a Vol. II.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
we gotta get on 1...enough proscrastinating.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
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