Wednesday Morning Rangers Update
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 14, 2010 9:31 AM CDT
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Adam is predictably smashing marriages this morning so I will take you on the guided tour of all of the happenings in Rangers land this morning. Only today happens to be the deadest sports day of the year. Oops.
The All-Star Game ended with the American League losing for the first time since the Summer of the Macarena. One day before that All-Star Game, in 1996, The Spice Girls release their debut single "Wannabe" in the UK. It had been a while. This means the National League Champion will have home field for the World Series seeing as this one still counts. I look at this as a positive. If the Rangers are going to make it to the World Series, of course it will come in the year that the National League finally wins home field advantage. The Rangers wouldn't have it any other way.
And like I said in the All-Star Game Post Game Thread, the last time the NL won an All-Star Game was also the last time the Rangers won a playoff game.
Anthony Andro has some quotes from the Rangers contingent about their experience at and during the All-Star Game and T.R. Sullivan has a story about the Rangers player's attempt to influence the outcome of the game.
Even though the game itself was boring and FOX went out of its way in trying to make it unwatchable, we got to see Josh Hamilton, Elvis, Kinsler, and Ranger Cliff Lee all in one All-Star Game. That's amazing.
Richard Durrett spoke with Elvis Andrus about his first All-Star Game. Even though Elvis made a mistake on a steal attempt, and didn't produce in his lone plate appearance, Elvis being an All-Star was one of the few terrific things about last night's game.
Barry Shlachter has the latest on the other big story going on with the Rangers right now. The scary one. No, not the Rangers late August series against the Baltimore Orioles, I'm writing of course about the Rangers Sale fiasco. The latest is Judge Lynn is pretty much annoyed with everyone involved and is ready to get this over with. Aren't we all.
T.R. Sullivan says August 4th looks like the new date to circle in your doom calendar. That's the day the Rangers will be auctioned.
Andro writes that Bud Selig is proud of the way the Rangers have held up in the face of this catastrophe of a process among other notes. Of course, if this doesn't go Bud's way, the team will just end up contracted anyway.
Brett Perryman has a gaggle of DFW media links this morning; including a video of Jerry Jones looking particularly Skeletor-ish on HBO's Entourage.
John Heyman handed out his mid-season awards, in an apparent attempt to wet your whistle for the second half. Surprisingly the winners weren't all Boras clients. A Ranger is featured in every category. Including this: "GM of the Half Year: Jon Daniels, Rangers."
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What a dreamy picture
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
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One other thing about the All-Star Game:
Elvis? Come on, now.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 14, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
The caught stealing.
Elvis has been making some terrible decisions and being extremely careless on the base paths lately. I would bet he’s probably the easiest pickoff in the league right now. Way too aggressive.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Dave Barnett
Probably talking about
Elvis’ Caught Stealing.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
He said later...
it was frustrating watching him get caught moments before a Hamilton single in a one run game. Which is true. It didn’t bother me at all. I’m more annoyed that we got nearly 6 innings of Jeter and Elvis had to come in as a pinch runner.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 14, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Elvis's baserunning has been spectacularly terrible this year.
I’m hoping he got embarrassed last night and starts to get this right.
by Jamey Newberg on Jul 14, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes it has.
In general the team as a whole has been break even at SBs. They could stop stealing and be about as well off.
Or at least give red lights to Andrus, Borbon, and Vlad.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
Short point.
His baserunning has been above average with all of his mistakes, but if he weren’t making poor decisions on the basepaths he’d be closer to the level of Carl Crawford.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/6/21/1527826/base-running-follow-up-the-mets
He’s still a high quality baserunner, so “spectacularly terrible” is a reach. For example, Vlad Guerrero he is not.
How many outs has this team given on the basepaths with poor decisions?
I’d guess we are top 5 in the league (as in highest number of outs, not 5 best).
by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd guess we were worst in the league
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
The problem is
The number of outs made on the basepaths doesn’t necessarily reflect a team’s baserunning ineptitude. Aggressive baserunning teams are going to commit more outs, but they’re also going to pick up more bases. The question is where the break-even point lies.
by Joey Matschulat on Jul 14, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
x
Ok, have we been picked off, caught stealing, and caught in rundowns more than any team in the league? Probably.
Hehz.
I look at this as a positive. If the Rangers are going to make it to the World Series, of course it will come in the year that the National League finally wins home field advantage. The Rangers wouldn’t have it any other way.
I like where you’re going with this.
I posted GoET's smart
"When you play Happy," Andrus said, "good things will happen."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 14, 2010 9:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I give up upon such major post fail via mobile.
"When you play Happy," Andrus said, "good things will happen."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 14, 2010 9:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
David @ BBTIA has a writeup on several AAA players
Including not-so-good news on Satly, better news on Moreland, good news on Kirkman, and ‘makes you wonder’ comment on Gentry
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
You know
If you think about it, I don’t think we’ve had any honest-to-god good news on Salty since we traded for him. Well, maybe his improved blocking skills last season. That’s about the only thing I can think of.
Otherwise, Salty’s Ranger career has been one giant slide down the expectation scale that looks like it spits out into a bottomless chasm.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
Yep
Thank God other folks in that trade have stepped up. Tough to view Salty as anything but a backup at best at this point.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
salty is a good example of selling high
Also a good example of how lousy this org is at evaluating catchers.
Thank God
we got so many other prospects in the deal.
You’d think they’d ask Sundberg what he thinks of some of these catchers.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
good question for Newberg
Who is responsible for scouting catchers both at the ML and minor league levels?
It's a better question
for JD when he makes himself available for questions as he often does.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
Well isnt Scott Servais a former catcher?
Id like to think that his opinion carries a great deal of weight.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Servais plays a big role there.
Along with the instructors up and down the system. Field coordinator Mike Micucci was a catcher as well, as was Jackie Moore.
by Jamey Newberg on Jul 14, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
But agree with Cahill.
That’s a good Q for JD.
by Jamey Newberg on Jul 14, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
It is a good question, but we need to remember
that catchers are probably only second to pitchers in flameout and attrition rates. It’s really not all that unusual for 3 catching prospects to get close and then not make it. Even established major league catchers drop off a cliff from year to year at times.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
It turned out to be selling high
but he’s just another catcher prospect who never panned out. Happens a lot with most of the catching prospects who aren’t in that can’t miss group of prospects.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Dude's got a .329 wOBA in AAA this year
And a career .306 wOBA in the majors.
Really, if you look at his minor league track record, he hasn’t really been truly impressive with the bat over any sort of sustained sample size at any level since A-ball, unless you count the 22 games in AA at the start of ’07.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
Agreed
Even if Salty could play SS like Omar Vizquel circa 1997, his offense is a problem. No way he can viewed as a potential 1st base option.
"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa
Moreland is probably next in line if CD bombs.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
I'm encouraged by Moreland this year
His OPS has been trending in the right direction and his k/pa is 6.6, compared to CD’s 4.57 (minors only). Of course, Moreland’s OPS is .100 lower than CD. Dunno, I’m interested to see how he responds when he finally gets a shot.
Also, didn’t know MM pitched 2 innings in 08 in Clinton.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
He's got a pretty good arm
Moreland seems to do everything well, but he doesn’t really stand out in any major way.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Well, excluding running and defending.
He doesn’t do those two things well at all.
Is his defense that bad?
I know he isn’t fast or anything, but is he that terrible in the OF and 1B where neither of those are legitimate positions for him?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
From BBTiA, and David:
Perhaps more importantly, he’s starting to look like an outfielder. I saw Moreland last summer and he looked like a first baseman or DH playing in right. He got relatively slow jumps on the ball, had a long, lumbering gait, and didn’t appear capable of changing directions very well. Moreland looks a lot more athletic this season. He appears less girthy and more chiseled. He looks less like an offensive lineman and more like a tight end or linebacker. He’s still a long strider, but he looks quicker to the ball and on the base paths. This is not to imply that he has become a great defensive outfielder or base runner. Moreland lacks the speed and agility to have even average range in the outfield. But I do think that he is on his way to playing a passable right field, especially if he is paired with a speedy center fielder.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I read passable as "not relegated to DH".
So, a -5 defender on average from right perhaps?
The range is always going to be an issue
but if he continues to improve in RF, with that arm strength, he could be an average overall defensive player.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
You just described
The perfect bench player for the Rangers…if he were right handed.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
His splits are exactly even - .855 OPS vs. LHP, .854 OPS vs. RHP
But yeah, ideally he would be a righty.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Not if he can't hit
and he has never shown an ability to hit since A ball. Any numbers he has put up since then have been on a SSS basis.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
Yeah.
It’s just an embarrassment to keep letting this guy play behind the plate. I don’t know what you do with him, but THIS isn’t working.
by ncrangerfan on Jul 14, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
If you think Salty's an embarrassment, I wonder what that makes Teagarden...
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
I watched Anthony Bourdain in Osaka last night..
…a lot of baseball=highly entertaining. Apparently their fans group together, form organizations and buy sections of tickets together. They work on their cheers throughout the offseason, have props, and gather at the same (sushi) bar during away games and continue to do their cheers.
I now want to go to Osaka.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a good episode
I think I like his Asia shows more than anything. It’s probably because that’s where his passion lies. Places like Australia and Czech Republic end up boring because he doesn’t care about those places. Just my opinion, though.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
Yeah, that's about right
Although France was good. That makes sense though considering his restaurant and all…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
he lived in France for a while
and made his living in a French Kitchen. That definitely makes sense.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
Anthony Bordain is greatness.
If you’re a fan of AB, I also recommend “Three Sheets.” It’s a funnier, more light-hearted exploration of regional drinking cultures. Maybe it’s just because I’m a homebrewer, but I love that show.
by ncrangerfan on Jul 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Excuse Me.
AB is Alton Brown. Not that jerk whatshisname.
by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Love Good Eats.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
Good Eats kinda sucks
The best cooking show for teaching cooking is America’s Test Kitchen. The ex left me probably 6-7 of their cookbooks and equipment corner is super-cool.
Alton Brown’s OK but I’m not going to do the crap he says. It’s way too time consuming. ATK on the other hand tries to give you the best and most efficient way of doing things correctly while AB wants to do things the most thoroughly which isn’t necessary.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Good eats
Good eats isn’t about the recipes, its about teaching people about the theories associated with cooking. About why cooks do certain things. Alton Brown is not a gourmet chef, and while some of the recipes he describes are quite tasty, many of them flop. But the best thing is that he is very entertaining, while at the same time describing history and theory and nutrition that normal cooking shows ignore.
If you want tasty food quickly, watch 30 min meals by Rachel Ray or anything Paula Dean does (though be prepared to put on 10 lbs with her cooking) or Mario Batali or any one of a thousand chefs on tv any more…..
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
That's exactly right.
He only gives you like 1-2 recipes per show, generally. What he is trying to do is actually teach you the science behind recipes so that you can do your own variations on anything you want.
Personally, putting raisins in a pot roast gravy sounds so incredibly disgusting to me (he did it on that episode), so I don’t follow many of his recipes at all.
by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
for me it was
him putting mustard on grilled cheese. sry, my grilled cheese has no mustard and no Muenster either. it is grilled however…..
I did like his idea of letting a sub sandwich rest for an hour or two. I hadn’t realized why certain sandwiches tasted better than others.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Muenster cheese is the shit
and is perfect for grilled cheese sandwiches.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
Not saying I don't like Muenster
just not on my grilled cheese. I love the heck out of it on bagels….speaking of which, I’m gonna go get some lunch.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
x
On one episode he advocated making a burger with simply meat, bun and mayo. I nearly vomited.
He has a FAR too big a fascination with putting mayo on stuff. I can’t stand the shit, so I always leave it out, except in very small amounts to bind things such as a chicken salad.
I am I mayo fiend
and his love for scratch mayo is so, very very valid.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
I use the Good Eats recipe for roast turkey
and it’s awesome. But I watch the show more for entertainment and interesting things about food rather than cooking.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
me too
I don’t know that my wife or I have ever made one of his recipe’s, but I love his show.
The Neeley's
Everything they make is delicious.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
It almost seems like everything they make is the same
Just a variation on a theme. And I can’t stand their lovey-dovey interactions. Probably why I’m single right now.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
THIS
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
They may make delicious food...
….but I will never know. I literally cannot sit through even 30 seconds of that awful, horrible, irritating, awful shithole of a show.
What - you don't like them saying sweetie and honey-cakes all the time?
Or talking about how much they love each other?
How about how Giada pronounces parmesean? Yeah, you got big boobs but stop it.
Anne Burrell is a good chef but annoying.
How many cake shows do we need?
Aaron McCargo of Big Daddy’s House makes things that look good (trying one) but I can’t stand his misuse of the english language. You’re on TV and things shouldn’t be that casual.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Don't disagree - my point is it's not a "cooking a show"
It’s more a documentary I guess. Yes, he teaches you the history and sometimes chemistry of things which can be interesting but it doesn’t help me cook. And 30 Minute meals sucks as does Paula Dean (don’t get me started on her). Mario Batali’s fine. I like Boy Meets Grill and Tyler someone did a show called Ultimate something that pretty good.
Still, America’s Test Kitchen is, in my opinion, the best teaching cooking show out there.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Well that's the thing.
Alton Brown should help you cook. Paula Deed should help you make a delicious peach tartlet. She teaches you nothing of how to cook, only how to make one particular thing.
Agreed - Paula Dean can stick her butter where the sun don't shine
Some things she makes look OK but she’s not informing me. How many times a day do they say “chiffonade” on the Food Network? Yeah, I get it – it’s the one French phrase you all know and it’s not a magical style of chopping. Get over it.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
that's cool
on what channel does it air and when?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
it's on the Fine Living Network now.
If you set your DVR to record it, you’ll have 20 episodes by the end of the week. They air that show like crazy at night.
by ncrangerfan on Jul 14, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I think hulu has a bunch of episodes up too.
If you’re a beer guy, check out the Belgium episode. Funny and informative.
by ncrangerfan on Jul 14, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a funny show and somewhat informative
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Love that show
pretty funny, but also interesting.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
His parents are French and he spent a decent chunk of his childhood there.
by LiamP on Jul 14, 2010 10:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting, I didn't know this
I knew he had spent a lot of time there.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Salty needs the Volquez treatment?
Send his ass to Hickory.
by ncrangerfan on Jul 14, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
And thus begins...
The most boring day of sports
And don’t you dare bring up the ESPYs….
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
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why is today more boring
than any day in January? At least there is a baseball season to talk about. By late January, all the interesting offseason baseball is thrpugh; most football teams are out of it, no college football; and the only sports playing are basketball (yawn) or hockey. eh.
Go Rice Owls!
Or I could go watch the neighborhood 6 year olds
Play basketball and be more entertained.
AL West
Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85
By: Josey Wales
by Drew062682 on Jul 14, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing on those ridiculous batting helmets?
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 9:56 AM CDT reply actions
They're safer, and the ridiculous-looking-ness is a question of being used to it.
Like batting helmets in the first place, or helmets in hockey, etc. Sooner or later they’ll be the standard.
No
it is a horrible look, and always will be. Some guys ears were folded over…
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
This was just the second version. I'm sure there will be more revisions in the future.
But you’re making exactly the same argument that people are reported to have made about helmets in the first place… and yet now we’re completely used to them.
I like how MLB is doing it nowadays though
Those helmets are mandatory in the minors so guys down there are used to them. It may take a generation of players coming up to catch on fully but it’ll happen.
Who cares how it looks
Its not a fashion show out there, although sometimes with some guys you wonder. Its the same as when people bitched about the patriotic hats each team wore over Memorial Day and 4th of July. It doesn’t matter what it looks like.
These helmets are supposedly safer which will take time to get used to but if it keeps a guy from getting a concussion from a Feliz fastball to the temple or moreso keeps someone from dying on the field then thats fine with me
Hell
lets go ahead and put a face mask on the helmets then too. How about full pads? Maybe just shin guards for the infielders. Oh, and all the players should get helmets too….don’t want any concussions out there.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not
it’s all in the name of protecting the owners’ investments…I mean saftey.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes you are.
You’re trying to compare it to things which aren’t even on the same continent as far as the health/concussion risk is concerned.
It's called sarcasm
But where will it stop…at concussions? Or is the door being opened to further the wussification of society? I fear the latter.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Not at all
It’s a simple cost benefit analysis. Adding extra protection is expensive and will only be done if their is a measurable benefit (hopefully with lots of scientific research). No one is going to want to spend money on pads when there is no provable benefit to safety.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jul 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Was it Charles Johnson that got beaned in the face and wore a face guard?
I also seem to remember a Rockie (Bichette?) that also wore one for a while. Having been hit in the face myself by a softball hit by a 240 lb. guy who was 15 feet away from me in a batting cage (knocked out one of my fillings, burst the vessels in one eye and cracked a cheek bone) nothing wrong with a little safety.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Wasn't it Geno Petralli
that wore a face guard for years after he took one in the head in….Boston? My memory has it being somewhere where they didn’t have a hitter’s backdrop at the time.
I think it was actually
Mike Stanley
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
No, it was that other catcher
Ugh … I can’t remember his name. He was off to a hot start that year when he got beaned. What was his name? Grrrr … this is killing me.
by northtexan95 on Jul 14, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
either Stanley or Don Slaught
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Don Slaught
That’s who I’m thinking of.
by northtexan95 on Jul 14, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, I loved my late 80's Rangers
Pete O’Brien, Gino, Charlie Hough, Steve Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooouechele, Oddibe McDowell (now that spring is here), herr bald, and Gonzo the clown. Wild Thing Mitch Williams.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
I loved the '86 team and liked the '89 team a lot
but ’87-88 were a couple of real ugly years of baseball in Arlington.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
87 and 88
were much uglier for Cleveland and Montreal.
(after all, they had Otis Nixon on their teams)
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Otis Nixon is not the ugliest
Texas Ranger in history.
Meet Dave Rajsich,a Texas Ranger from 1979-80 and the President of the Ugly Motherfucker Club.
He was so ugly that Mickey Rivers said when he walked by him, his clothes started to wrinkle.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I don't see a clear winner here, only losers
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
hahaha
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
That's right
and I’m almost positive he was hit in Boston. I’ve got Oil Can Boyd in my head as the guy that popped him.
I know I'm not
but I hate the helmets. However, I’ll bet there will be a day when all players are required to wear helmets in the field.
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a bet then
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
NO, not a question of being used to it.
I’ve watched Cricket for 40+ years, many channels nowadays even replay games from the ‘60s. Comparing what the batsmen wore in the ’70s and then this century is beyond ridiculous. There is no getting used to pansy-ass Barry Bonds-like body armor. And still, it’s more exaggerated with Cricket.
OK, first guy who says “what’s Cricket” gets…well, I don’t know, gets a broken wicket maybe.
It's "Ode to Joy," from the Ninth Symphony. - Josh Garoon
Quote about Judge Lynn from FWST
After the session, Lynn approached the ballclub’s chief financial officer, Kellie L. Fischer, and asked about Ryan. The judge then told Fischer, “I wish I could decide this case with my heart, not my head.”
Wow! Sounds like if it was up to him he’d let Nolan have the team. Unfortunately his hands are tied by the law.
by northtexan95 on Jul 14, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
stupid American legal system
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
record at the end of the month?
BOS/DET 3-4
LAA/OAK 4-3
LAA 1-2
is 8-9 after August 1st realistic? I know that is an impossible question – look no further than the BAL series or the recent winning streak. the matchups will determine a lot, too – especially since we don;t have a #5 guy yet, right?
i can’t honestly expect any better, and my fear is that we don’t pull out of the BAL tailspin before we’ve gone 2-4 or 1-6 on the road.
Hunter goes tomorrow
then Lewis, Lee, Wilson
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I saw where
we were missing bucholz this series.. he is pitching a rehab assignment instead
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jul 14, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
from boston globe
Wakefield (3-7) Hunter (5-0)
Doubront (1-1) Lewis (8-5)
Lackey (9-5) Lee (8-4)
Lester (11-3) Wilson (7-5)
by sam in so cal on Jul 14, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
We always hit Wakefield and Lackey well
Only the Lester game looks bad for the Rangers
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jul 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember a game where nobody made any contact with Lackey.
He may have only thrown two pitches, but still…
by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
I remember that game. What a douche.
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jul 14, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I was at that game
We laughed so hard.
"I think I'm going to name my new car Scooter, because it dominates on the road." - mikeyoungfuturehof, 9.10.09
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Great game score that day
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Not a great Game Score (think it was 48)
but he didn’t give his team a good chance to win (need a 50 to do that).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Bullshit
You have repeatedly said he didn’t hurt his teams chances to win even though he forced his bullpen to go 8+ innings
What was Lackey's ERA that day?
What was his tRA?
What were his FIPS, xFIPs, DIPS and WHIP?
Should all those stats be thrown out the window as well because Lackey only lasted two pitches?
By the way, Cliff Lee’s first Game Score as a Texas Ranger was a 47.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Josey doesn't read...
what anyone says. He just hits reply on random posts to spew his agenda.
He’ll never learn anything because he’s too busy loving his own opinions and not reading what anyone else has to say.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
It says all that needs to be said that that index rates a complete game the same as it does a two-pitch, no out, only-batter-faced-on-base outing
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Lackey's Game Score means that he personally
didn’t do too much to kill the Angels chances of winning with his actions on the field.
A 48 Game Score is largely pedestrian but allowing one baserunner in a game by itself didn’t kill the Angels chances of winning but it did tax the bullpen.
I imagine a two-pitch outing for a starting pitcher doesn’t happen much more than once every 5-10 years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Forcing your bullpen to go 8 innings not only hurts your chances of winning that game
But the next one and possibly 2 games as well due to overuse
The fact that a 2 pitch outing and a complete game
could have the same score tells me that game scores mean nothing.
Now, adjust the game score formula to appropriately adjust for innings and you are in better shape. for example, I’d subtract 10 points for each inning not completed before the fourth. in other words, if a pitcher only goes 3 innings, subtract 10 points. 2 innings, subtract 20 points.
A pitcher who only throws 2 pitches, and doesn’t give up anything, therefore only gets a score of 12, as he loses 40 points for failing to complete the first inning.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
The fact that a 2 pitch outing from a starting
pitcher may happen once every 5-10 years (I’ve watched MLB for 40 years and don’t remember it ever happening) means it’s something you probably shouldn’t worry about too much.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Lackey's 2 pitch outing
is an extreme example. a better one would be April 18th and June 11th.
In the first one, Rich harden went 3.2 innings allowing 4 runs on 5 hits, walking 6 and striking out 5.
In the second one, Rich Arden went 6 innings allowing 6 runs on 7 hits, walked 3 and struck out 4.
Their game scores were virtually identical. (35 vs 34). That makes no sense.
And here’s why. a strikeout is still just an out. but in a game score, a strikout is actually twice as valuable as any other out through the 4th inning, and strikeouts before the 4th are more valuable than outs after the fourth inning. If you are going to add points for innings completed after the fourth, you have to subtract for innings not completed before the 4th, other wise you are overvaluing short outings.
to add perspective to this, Both All star starters had GS’s over 50. does this make sense? of course it doesn’t.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
What Game Scores really
tell you is whether or not a starting pitcher STBF, was mediocre, gave his team a good chance to win or gave his team an excellent chance to win.
So much, but not all of a baseball game is decided by the performance you receive from your starting pitcher.
You don’t win too many games when your starting pitcher gives you a Game Score of 35.
Conversely, you win the vast majority of your games when your starting pitcher gives you a Game Score above 70.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jul 14, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
No they don't.
they tell you if the pitcher had a good outing or a great outing. Any score over 60 or 70 is great. under 60 you really can’t tell anything about the start. Tommy Hunter’s third start of the year got a GS of 52, even though he got hurt in the 3rd inning. Is that the same as his start on July 8th where he went 6 and gave up 3 runs in 6 innings? of course not.
its a throw away stat. If you want to use a stat which is like game scores, but actually makes sense, try Support Neutral Wins and Losses from BP. That’s at least done on a start by start basis and is normalized for park.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Lester is tough
but CJ seems to really step out when facing an opponent’s ace or no. 2
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
step up* sorry
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
CJ vs Boston patience
Ewe.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
True
so im assuming you would rather flip flop lee and wilson?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Though I’d rather take a longer term view of it…wouldn’t want to mess up the second half schedule just for that.
CJ is probably going to nibble himself to death that game anyways..
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope he doesnt
but it is definitely possible.
So when Harden gets back do the Rangers immediately drop Feldman to the pen and give Harden a couple starts to see if he has “it” back?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Hardens got 3 weeks left available on his rehab assignment
I fully expect the Rangers to use every available day of that before bringing him back and having to make that decision
That's what I would do
I expect that they’ll DL Feldman if he continues sucking.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Right
and i also tend to agree with what bigsteve said as well. I guess Holland is the long reliever for the rest of the year? The rotation is getting really crowded which is not a bad thing as long as its getting really crowded with quality arms.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
My guess is Holland goes back to AAA to stay in the rotation
And if he hasn’t been brought back up by September then he comes up when rosters expand
I could see that and then
next year Lewis, Wilson, and Hunter are absolute locks. Then you have Feldman, Harrison, Holland, Kirkman, McCarthy (is he still alive?), Scheppers, and possibly Feliz for the last two spots?
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Given Feldmans contract id say hes a virtual lock to at least start the year
So thats 4. Unless we resign Lee in which case either we could look to trade Feldman to open up a spot for Holland or put him in the pen.
Scheppers most likely will start in AAA and be the first injury replacement and Feliz, if hes switched back to starter, will most likely start in AAA to not only stretch out but also refine his secondary stuff
I'm betting Feliz is the closer next year
Hopefully Ogando or some such can take over the role by the end of next year.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I imagine
Injury will force Holland into the rotation at some point. Or they could give CJ some time off.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Im telling you
The long term schedule fits perfectly for Lee to pitch every 5th day with no interruptions if he starts on Saturday. Otherwise he would run into days off at some point
Why are off days bad?
Considering that they just push everyone back instead of giving one starter the day off?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Im not saying they are bad necessarily
But Id rather have Lee go on his normal every 5th day routine. Hell if we are close down the stretch in September i wouldn’t mind him going every 4 days if thats what it takes
It won't take that
And I don’t want him going that often. The goal is to get to the playoffs with as many of your All Stars in prime health/conditioning as possible. I don’t see how pitching Lee every fourth day accomplishes that.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
If its close down the stretch it may take Lee pitching every 4 days to simply make the playoffs
Everything is fluid but right now I would think Lee pitching every 5th day makes the most sense. Not every 5th game but every 5th day.
If we open up a sizeable lead in August or early September then yeah let some of the younger guys take some starts and rest guys but if the lead stays where it is or shrinks between now and then I would rather throw Lee as much as possible as long as he remains effective
I think it's a safer bet
To use him every 5th game than try to overuse then rest him.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
What
I don’t think you understand what I am saying.
We start off the second half using him every 5th day (starting on Saturday allows that). Then as the season progresses we can change if needed. If our lead over the Angels shrinks come September 1st I wouldn’t be suprised to see us start using him every 4th day so we could simply get into the playoffs. But if our lead balloons and we are practically assured of a playoff spot then we could either go to a 6 man staff (hello Mr Holland) or skip him in the rotation once or twice to keep him fresh for the playoffs.
Im not advocating using him wildly. But given what we gave up to get him, his talent level, and the fact that the FO has obviously targetted this season as playoffs or bust then I would use him as much as needed to get there. If that means 3 days rest so be it.
Gotcha
I get it now. I agree to a point, but I don’t like the idea of 4 days rest unless it’s the playoffs. Even then…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I said this the other day when somebody brought up the pitching match-ups vs. Boston.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Dave Barnett
Ewe?
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
get a room you two....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I'm hoping the ASB gives him a little extra gas, too.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
I'd love to throw Lee against Lester
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Doubront a soft tossing lefty?
Probably doesn’t mater, he is a no name who will likely 4 hit the Rangers.
No
He throws hard
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 14, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I was wondering
if advance scouting is a problem for the team. they do so badly the first time they see a new pitcher. Should they be scouting their future opponents so they don’t look like absolute idiots out there?
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Lots of teams have difficulties with guys theyve never faced before
They may have written scouting reports but not much video. Plus the actual hitters may have never stood in the box against them and seen their delivery point or the movement or whatever.
As the rangers have shown this year on several occasions they may get shut down once thru the order but after that they generally do pretty well (Baltimore series aside)
is this humor?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
That or idiocy...
I’ve had my coffee, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt….for now.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
12:25 pm and I still haven't had a cup
but FRS Energy is working very well, delivers a smooth stream of energy without the spikes up and down
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 14, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Bud Selig says he's looking at moving the schedule forward on the calendar next year
Says he wants to get baseball out of November.
Anybody really care?
I like that idea
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 14, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Earlier ST, earlier real games…count me in.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Not the next 10 years.
Because 1/2 the games will be played in Texas. It will be so pleasant in October and November at night.
by FuturePants on Jul 14, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Cleveland fans
but who cares about them?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
I am all for it
"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington
by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather
they shorten the season if they extend the playoffs. April through mid-october would be nice.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
I wouldn't mind it.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
How about eliminating all the down time in the playoffs
These guys play every day practically for 6 months, getting in a rhythm, etc and for the most important games of the year, the ones that decide your champion, you are going to all of a sudden change that to every other day or 2 games back to back then like 3 days off?
I like this idea
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I still think each league should have two wild card teams
have them play each other in a one game playin before the winner plays the team with the best record in each league. The division winners get a day off and the team with the best record gets to play a wild card team that most likely used it’s ace in the playin game. That would add one game (just one freaking game) but it would be extra tv for every team and gate money for the wild card teams (they split the gate and play it at the wild card team with the best record).
I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.
by DerekSTheRed on Jul 14, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
it's better to get snowed out at the beginning of the year
that have the WS delayed a number of days because of snow. games at the beginning can be made up later. Also, they can do a better job of scheduling warmer climates as the home team
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
WOW
mlbtraderumors BLUE JAYS have acquired ESCOBAR and JO-JO REYES from Braves in exchange for ALEX GONZALEZ, TIM COLLINS & INF TYLER PASTRONICKY.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
I like that trade for the Jays
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
by Michael Cave on Jul 14, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait, Yunel Escobar?
What the fuck Braves?
by LiamP on Jul 14, 2010 11:05 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont know, but I was watching a Braves game last weekend
and he made a lazy throw that almost got Troy Glaus seriously injured, and also made a horrible/lazy play going out on a popup to shallow center. Seemed like he was pretty indifferent to it all. Not sure how well liked he is in the clubhouse.
Mike Olt - 2013 A.L. Rookie of the Year.
He declined to accept the award as to not show up his fellow rookies. Incentives earned from being named ROY were donated to a local charity. He did not report this donation on his tax return.
Apparently This Is One Of The Big Reasons
Why the Braves moved him. They didn’t really care for his makeup, and the kinds of plays you’re talking about sound exactly like what baseball folks consider makeup.
by Mister Naxal on Jul 14, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Elvis on fangraphs top 50 trade value list:
- – Elvis Andrus, SS, Texas
In a league with very few good shortstops, Andrus stands tall despite being just 21 years of age. A defensive specialist, he’s never going to be the best hitter in the league, but he provides enough value on offense that his total package makes him one of the better players at his position. His lack of power and too frequent baserunning gaffes are problematic, but the good outweighs the bad with Andrus. Good young players who provide value now and potential for more later are building blocks of good franchises, and that’s exactly what Andrus is to the Rangers right now.
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Jul 14, 2010 11:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
He's such a good player we forget sometimes what a kid he is.
I feel good about his power and his baseball IQ improving with age.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
GFYS
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
by Kinslerhomer on Jul 14, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
This isn't Facebook, torch the man with profanity!
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Dave Barnett
Don't add the LSJ gimmick to your repetoire
Stick with the numbers are scary and maths are hard thing you have going
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Jul 14, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I advocated Longoriaing Elvis from day 1 because of this
Im not trying to be a debbie downer just being realistic given the circumstances.
3 weeks at the start of last year with Vizquel holding the fort down is all it would have taken. And I don’t buy that it couldn’t be done because Young would have been upset. Not with Vizquel being the guy who filled in those three weeks
The only two people in the universe against following the Longoria Protocol with Elvis were Elvis and Micheal Young
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Well, and JD
since he didn’t do it.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 14, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I do remember him commenting about it
Saying something to the tune of he realized the benefits of it, but Elvis was too special to do it with.
But I think if you got him drunk on decent scotch, he would tell you he regrets having to do it that way.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Again
I don’t but the Young bullshit. If you put a HOF defensive SS like Vizquel there for 3 weeks before the future arrives there wouldn’t have been an issue. If all we had was Joaquin Arias then yeah I could see it but not with Omar Vizquel out there.
It's an LSJ gimmick now to be realistic about the fact that Elvis is a Boras client and what that means?
Geez, people.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
Bite your tongue
Elvis is the type of player you lock up long term. If you were to go to him and offer him an Evan Longoria type contract, or even more, that would be ideal. Say, 8 years, $93 million (that would be $2 mill for ‘11, $6 mill for ’12, $10 mill for ’13, and then 5 more years at $15 million, and he’s only 30 when the contract is over.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
well then
make it 7 years and $105 million with numbers of $3, 7, 15, and then 4 years at $20 apiece.
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
Boras clients have never signed an extension pre-free agency I don't believe
Maybe thats changed the last couple years but I can’t recall any. We may be able to cost control his arbitration years but given his agent I doubt he will sign away any free agency years. He’ll be 25 turning 26 when he hits FA. Boras will get him a nice 5 year deal and he will be a FA again at age 30/31.
Boras clients
usually go to FA, and don’t even counteroffer when you make them an offer.
Just assume Andrus is gone when we lose control.
Another reason not Longoriaing him was silly.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
You can assume the worst
I’m going to assume we’ll have money if four years and sign him to a big time contract.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
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I'm not sure it matters
if we have money.
We made an offer to Teixeira, and Boras didn’t even counteroffer. Had their been interest in getting a deal done, they would have countered. I imagine it will be similar with Andrus. Rangers offer. If they are interested they will counter, if not, we need to be ready to trade Andrus.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
That may have been more Tex than Boras
I don’t think Tex ever wanted to be a long term Ranger.
by northtexan95 on Jul 14, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The Ranger offer to Tex
was $ 44 million under market value.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
How do you know what market value was?
And do you know how negotiations go? The offer the Rangers extended to Tex was more than reasonable given the fact it also included at least one if not two arbitration years (which depress the overall value of the deal). If Tex had any feelings at all about staying in Texas he would have at least counteroffered and then you negotiate from there.
Not really.
Teix still had 2 cost-controlled years of salary when he was offered that deal.
If you apply the appropriate cost control factors to the deal he signed with NYY, it is almost identical in straight up value and time with the only difference being that one would have been signed prior to 2007 while the other was signed prior to 2009 — so he would have been a FA again 2 years earlier if he’d signed with the Rangers at the same relative earning rate.
The only possible argument you could make is that the Texas offer coincided with a time where wins were valued much more than they are today, and therefore, if Teix had signed with NYY in 2007 then he would have gotten an additional 44M — but even that is a stretch given that the point of taking a long-term contract is to mitigate the risk of going year-to-year and should include atleast moderate considerations for various economic outcomes.
It's not listed a Cot's,
But trust me, he is. This has been brought up a lot in the local media.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Matches posed this question back in May
With Andrus facing arbitration eligiblity for the first time after the 2011 season, do you try overpaying with a long-term contract extension to make him the new “face of the franchise” — and with Scott Boras as his agent, do you even manage to get anywhere?
I think Boras does let his clients sign deals that covers their arb years plus a year of FA. So look for EA to be here 5 more years.
http://www.bbtia.com/home/2010/5/2/sunday-morning-open-thread-five-questions.html
Boras' Wikipedia and cots does not have him listed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Boras#Scott_Boras.27_clients
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
"HE GETS THE GODDAM CLEAT" by philkid3
Anybody want a Justin Smoak auto'd letter patch card?
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jul 14, 2010 11:35 AM CDT reply actions
Awesome news
My club is having a 3-day exhibition series for a couple of 18U national teams this weekend which is used as a ramp up for the national tournament coming up in a few weeks. My office is doing a fantasy draft for the weekend for fun.
I just found out that Kellin Deglan is on Team Canada. That will make the second consecutive year a Rangers first rounder will play here. I’m stoked. Now what round to draft him in…
We'll be expecting a full report.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
One more day until real baseball resumes.
I’m getting amped up for the 2nd half.
And I still hate you, Benjie Molina.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
3 Weeks from today is August 4th
We may be three weeks from having this ownership issue solved. I bet the auction will be a lot of fun if all three parties participate.
One thing I've learned through all of this
Never get excited for any date that’s been promised to you. Not a single damn thing will happen on August 4th.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
There is a damn thing that'll happen on the 4th.
The Rangers will play a baseball game.
Yeah this sale stuff sucks, but hey, we’re in first. Lets enjoy what we’ve got.
I meant in regards to the sale, obviously
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
ESPN Sportnation was just saying how Elvis was in his First AND Last all star
game last, he was also on the list of 3 jeers for being picked off 2bd in the game., these 2 idiots amaze the heel out of me for their lack of baseball knowledge, these 2 were not the normal 2 who are slightly smarter than these 2, but they look good, and that’s all that really matters.
Baseball ain't like football. You can't make up no trick plays. ~Yogi Berra
Because the list of 21 year old all stars
who never returned is so incredibly long…….
Oh my god! What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?
-Wash
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