Sunday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2010 11:08 AM CDT
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PrintThat was a truly aggravating game. A very good pitching performance gone to waste. The offense doing very little, and stupid baserunning wiping out a couple of the rare opportunities that arose. One out away from a victory, and seeing the tying run come across.
This is a game we'll talk about this winter if the Angels come back and win the West.
Jeff Wilson's game story says that neither Cliff Lee nor Ron Washington were second-guessing themselves last night after the loss. I understand the argument that Wash should have brought Neftali Feliz in to face Kevin Youkilis in the 9th. I would have stuck with Lee, but I understand the argument for Feliz.
What I don't get, though, are those folks who are railing on Washington for not walking Youkilis to face Adrian Beltre. That's ridiculous...you don't get a platoon advantage, and you're putting the winning run on base. There were a lot of folks on the DMN chat grousing to Evan Grant about that, and the most coherent argument I saw was that Youk is a "gamer" and Beltre isn't "clutch." Nonsensical.
T.R. Sullivan's game story says much the same...great game, Wash trusted Lee out there, Lee left a pitch out over the plate to Youkilis.
Evan Grant talks about Lee's outing and the 9th inning decision to stick with him against Kevin Youkilis.
Sullivan's notes talk about Bengie Molina, Derek Holland's simulated game, and the Rangers' continuing interest in Mike Lowell.
The S-T's notes talk about Molina, as well, and about Colby Lewis's weird night with the rain delay.
Wilson has a story up about Molina adjusting to Texas.
And in bankruptcy news, Barry Shlachter writes that J.P. Morgan Chase has filed suit against the Rangers, claiming they fraudulently transferred the ballpark lease in 2009.
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great game
bad pitch.
i stick with Lee there as well. and you don’t put the winning running on base to face another good hitter.
someone needs to have a sitdown with Vlad – i think his “aggressive” base running is contagious.
+1
If Ron put in Feliz there, and Youkilus gets a hit. Tons of people would be saying should have stuck with Lee, he was pitching great.
I think we need to have a sitdown with the whole team about their baserunning.
It was publicized before the year that the club strategy was to let the players run
This club clearly doesn’t consider the risk (giving away outs) worse than the reward (taking extra bases, getting runners into scoring position, and putting pressure on the pitcher).
If anyone is questioned it should be management, not Vlad/Elvis.
Stick with Lee
I agree. If you don’t stick with Lee you’re basically saying you would never ever stick with your starting pitcher in that situation. One out short of a complete game victory, pitch count is not a problem, throwing very well…
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Yeah, tough loss
Good game though.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
it really sucks eery year
"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar
by TagDon'tTweet on Jul 18, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I was hoping for Feliz at the time.
I’d have liked to see that bald douchebag have to deal with a fresh righty throwing upper 90s heat at that point. However, its Cliff effing Lee, who was throwing well….so whatever. Not a boneheaded gaffe IMO…just a preference.
Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
by SarasotaRanger on Jul 18, 2010 11:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
No telling right now
He’s probably 3-4 weeks away from returning
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 18, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
What do you see as most likely right now?
Harden in the rotation, Holland in the rotation, or both in the rotation on September 1st.
Unless Harden starts showing some improvement while on rehab
I don’t think he pitches for the Rangers again. Maybe….just maybe he gets a few starts if CJ STBF in his next few starts and gets sent back to the pen.
if both are in the rotation on september 1st
we’ve lost the division. Hopefully one of them comes out dominant and gets feldman out of rotation (hopefully holland)
Rangers FTW
While watching the game, I was thinking it should be Feliz pitching to Youk
but I don’t have a huge problem with leaving Lee out there. Lee is an ace, a true TORP in every sense of the word. If you can’t trust Lee to get that out, then who can you trust?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I might have brought in Feliz instead of O'Day
but I can see why Wash went with Darren. Now about giving away outs…
Mr. Fabian White, reporting for duty.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
worlds ugliest mugshot...this dude makes Jack Arias look like a young Marlon Brando
If you see this guy in Tulsa, run for your life!
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
The best part is that he was driving a Ford Windstar minivan.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 18, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought you were gonna profile pic yoself rockin' some Girbauds.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
oh yeah....on it.
Hey…the NEW developers of that Fry Street project just signed The Flying Tomato to a lease at the same spot.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 18, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Denton just keeps calling me home.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Are they going to make the pizza any better?
by LoneStarBallUser on Jul 18, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know, I only ate their once.
I really don’t remember it either.
Not good?
Seems like it’s more of the atmosphere people dug….that and playing pacman/asteroids while on acid or w/e those freaks used to do over there (STARING AT YOU SCOOP)
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 19, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
wtf?
what the hell is wrong with someone that drives them to the point where they think that is a good thing?
Oh say does that flag banner wave / Over a-a-all that's free / And the home of the land / And the land of the - FREE!
by enrico pallazzo on Jul 18, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
What a fucked up individual
And what about the guy with “East Side” tattooed across his upper lip???
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yeah, should be 'North Side'.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
There's probably...
a list of like ten or more other games I’ll think of before this one if the Rangers don’t make the playoffs.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 18, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions
You have to stick with Lee there...
he had retired something like 26 of the last 28 batters he had faced. And his pitch count was very resonable.
Bad pitch / good hitting from Youk. Tip your hat and move on.
And no, you don’t put the go ahead run on base. That’s just not a smart move.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
THIS
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
Feliz
Isn’t the better question why he didn’t pitch in the 11th?
by Darrell McKown on Jul 18, 2010 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
Because Ogando...
looked really good in the 10th and didn’t have to throw a lot of pitches.
If Feliz pitches the 11th and the Rangers score then who pitches the 12th? That’s the problem you run into using your closer on the road in a game that goes into extras.
I didn’t have a problem with Ogando staying out there at all.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Bankruptcy
It’s pretty clear that MLB either: (1) isn’t confident, at all, in their ability to take over the team in “the best interests of baseball”, or (2) they seriously misjudged the bankruptcy case and the determination of the lenders. There’s no way they would have let this mess occur otherwise.
by Darrell McKown on Jul 18, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
I think there's a lot of things
… that no one expected wold happen.
by northtexan95 on Jul 18, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
halos heaven's take...
-lee’s performance was not impressive last night because the red sox have injuries
-9th inning was the result of rangers trying to get too many innings out of him, at this rate his arm will fall off
-cliff lee is a modern day aaron sele
glad they cleared it all up for us.
He's thrown more pitches in 11 starts this year
So STFU HH.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Solid anaylsis as always
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 18, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Shortest morning thread ever?
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
Nope
many threads in ‘05-’06 era had comment totals in the teens or less.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Ah.
the good ol’ days
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
There was nothing good...
about being a Rangers fan when we were puling for John Wasdin to have a good start.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
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