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Well, no sweep, after yesterday's loss.  Scott Feldman caught a lot of the criticism for last night's loss, but Feldman pitched okay...it was the offense, that has scored 6 runs in 3 games in this series, that let the Rangers down last night.

Jeff Wilson's game story talks about Feldman being great early before falling apart in the middle innings, with Ron Washington calling Feldman "consistently inconsistent."

T.R. Sullivan, in his game story, says that teams are calling the Rangers about pitching and thus could be dealt, while the Rangers continue their search for a righthanded first baseman.

Richard Durrett's post game notes talk about whether Feldman did enough to keep his spot in the rotation with his performance yesterday.

Wilson also writes that the Rangers are aggressively shopping for a righthanded hitter who can come off the bench and play first baseman, and are apparently willing to deal quality prospects to land someone like Wes Helms, who Wilson identifies as the best fit, or Jorge Cantu.

Anthony Andro's notes includes discussing Taylor Teagarden's return to Texas and Derek Holland's rehab start.

Sullivan's notes also hit on those issues, along with the ceremony yesterday honoring Tom Grieve.  William Wilkerson has a story in the S-T about Grieve's induction.

Gil Lebreton has a column on Grieve, who Lebreton says built a playoff-level team, even if the Rangers never made the playoffs while Grieve was g.m.

Wilson has a Q&A with Jon Daniels about the Rangers' performance this year.

Kevin Sherrington writes that the Rangers can't be patient with Scott Feldman and Chris Davis in the middle of a pennant race.

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consitently inconsistent

I think that’s a pretty apt description of Feldman this year. In almost every game he will show flashes of being pretty good, but in almost every game there’s a point at which he can’t get anybody out. I still like Scott Feldman long term, but he’s having a bad year and I think Holland could replace him or at least deserves a shot at it.

by Black Francis on Jul 25, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Hard to see how this one is on Feldman

Also not sure that we know for a fact that Holland would be better than what Feldman did last night.

The one thing though is that Feldman usually saves the bullpen because he can go 6-7 IP. Problem is, he looked like he was on his way to giving up 5-6 runs and in a game like last night, you didn’t want to see that happen.

However, not sure how many games the margin of error is going to be so strict. And if it’s not, maybe you want to have a 5th starter that guarantees bullpen rest instead of a Harden who guarantees no bullpen rest or a Holland, who you probably just aren’t sure what he guarantees from start to start.

by ab03 on Jul 25, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm done with Harden

…but I don’t see a reason that Holland can’t come up and give the team six or so better innings than Feldman usually does. Feldman wasn’t that bad last night, but he wasn’t that good either. He’s okay as the fifth guy but I think they can do better without having to give up talent. To me it’s a no-brainer that Holland at least gets four or five starts.

by Black Francis on Jul 25, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

posted this over at BBTiA

A quick look at the OKC schedule shows that Harden will be pitching @Memphis and at home vs Iowa. Memphis is in the bottom third of the PCL offensive stats. Iowa is not much better. I am afraid that he is going to do and say just enough to get back into the Rangers rotation. I really don’t want to see him on the mound for the Rangers ever again.

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by RangerMad on Jul 25, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

At this point in the season I'm not sure...

…they’ll give him another shot unless they’re pretty damn convinced he’ll be a lot better than he was earlier in the year. Can’t afford to have him struggle through three innings before being run.

by Black Francis on Jul 25, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogando

Nice overall SSS stats across the board. Except with runners on base. He has allowed 63% of IR to score. He has come into a game 5 times with runners on base and allowed at least one of them to score in 4 of those games.
With nobody on base his slash line is .056/.209/.056 in 43 PAs. Put someone on and it becomes .290/.343/.387 in 36 PAs. I don’t feel comfortable with him in a ‘fireman’ type of role. Ron and Maddux need to reassess his role in the pen.

by RangerMad on Jul 25, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Won't

that normalize though?

And, are 5 appearances enough to conclude it’s a problem?

by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Jul 25, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

you have to look at the exact situations

You can’t fault someone to come in with zero outs and a man on third and allowing him to score, yet that would be looked at the same as coming in with a man on 1st and 2 outs and allowing that guy to score based on just inherited runners %… I havn’t taken the time to look at all the appearences but from memory it seems like hes been in unfavorable positions.

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by DShep on Jul 25, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

BR's game logs will show you the exact situation

I agree, situations do matter. Ogando’s IS is something to watch going forward.

by RangerMad on Jul 25, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crappy game yesterday

but it was the game in the series that you probably had the least confidence in winning and I was happy to see Feldman go out there and give a pretty solid start. Some better luck on balls in play and this team doesn’t give up 6 runs to the Angels.

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice

I was really surprised to hear the Ramones playing when he took his ride around the ballpark. Tom Grieve is a pretty awesome guy.

by Black Francis on Jul 25, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking

that was the Ramones video he was in, no?

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by Lisa W on Jul 25, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grieve is still in excellent physical shape

he did about an hour of cardio at the hotel gym in Boston while I was working out

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Jul 25, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

bad night for the offense

but still a lot of pitches thrown right over the middle of the plate by feldman/oliver/ogando

by SteveP on Jul 25, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay, seriously...

Go to the DMN Rangers blog.

They have the greatest picture up of Scott Feldman ever.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 25, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

wrecked. straight up

I did quite possibly the weirdest thing anyone has ever done on LSB, and all I got was this crappy signature.

by rockin_rangers on Jul 25, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where'd his chin go?

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 25, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

the tortoise

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Jul 25, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 25, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitching

They should give Harden and Feldman away, if anyone would take them. That would save them $4.0 million the rest of this season, $4.4 million next season, and $7.1 million in 2012. Harrison would likely do at least as well as Feldman has for a few starts, then you plug Holland in there for the last six weeks of the season after that.

Assuming we are stuck with them, I would probably give Harden the start Saturday night, unless he completely bombs Monday night.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 25, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Alot of Feldman hate going on right now.

Go ahead trade him and then watch someone like Bruce Chen make a start for the Rangers next year. The Rangers cannot afford to give away pitching.

by RangerMad on Jul 25, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

If you are worried about pitching depth, I strongly suspect you could get a better starter than Scott Feldman as a free agent this winter for a 2-year deal at salaries of $4.4 million and $7.1 million.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 25, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that

You think there are going to be that many decent pitchers out there who are going to accept a 2 year 11.5 million dollar deal?

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

By "decent"

Do you mean pitchers with career ERA+’s of 95 and one good year as a starting pitcher?

If that’s decent, then yeah I do.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 25, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sure

Feldman right now is pitching better than his ERA due to a poor BABIP and LOB%. He’s still projected to finish the season at 195 innings and with a 4.61 FIP. Given how much of a down year he seems to be having with that cutter, I don’t see things getting worse for him over the remainder of the contract. I wouldn’t predict a repeat of 2009, but if he gives you a couple of more seasons with 200 innings pitched and some 3/4 level production, then he is worth the money.

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

But if I could get out from under the contract, I would, and then I’d take my changes on signing someone like this year’s version of Jon Garland if I really thought I needed more starting pitching depth.

I could easily see Feldman becoming the 8th option in the rotation by the middle of next season, the way he’s pitched this year.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 25, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And what about the way he's pitched last year?

And to get rid of Feldman just because of his contract??? The contract is far from horrible. Its obviously not as cheap as a guy like Holland or even Lewis, but its not the type of contract you trade just to dump that contract. Unless ownership doesn’t get straightened out for the next 2 years, its not even a mild concern IMO.

And this year’s version of Jon Garland sucks, just like last year’s did and the year’s before it did. I’ll take my chances on Feldman getting his cutter back to where it was before this season rather than sign someone who needs to just stay in the NL.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Felman's contract

$7.1 million in 2012 isn’t pocket change.

Feldman’s career ERA+ is 95, Garland’s is 104. Garland was basically the same pitcher as Feldman last year, in Feldman’s best season. Garland is much better this year (he’s actually league average).

Jon Garland is your classic league-average innings eater. He gives you 200 innings every year, with a park-adjusted ERA slightly above average.

I don’t see how anyone can objectively argue that Garland sucks while defending Feldman. Garland has been what you are saying Feldman can be, for about 10 years now.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 25, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

fwiw

Fangraphs had Feldman as worth $14.9 million last year, and $4.6 million so far this year.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 25, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

7.1 million

is what you pay for a 1 year contract of a decent, old pitcher who can’t get a multi-year deal. For a guy like Feldman, he is getting that money for both what he does on the field and being one of the few veterans of the starting rotation options who along with CJ, is the only lifelong Ranger there. 7.1 million just isn’t anything outrageous for that. Pineiro got a 2 year deal from the Angels this past offseason worth 16 million. Oliver Perez last year got 3/36. Moyer’s last year got 2/13 and Blanton got 3/24. Its tough for me to see how anyone can honestly say that Feldman’s contract is that bad when he’s 1 decent pay-day in this contract, and even that is basically just market value.

Garland is a pitcher without great control, few strikeouts, and what Feldman has that he doesn’t, a true plus pitch. Last year when Feldman had his cutter working for him, he wasn’t going to get touched often and has something to build on. Garland doesn’t have that. Garland had a good run with the White Sox where he was able to be a LAIE, but since then he had a horrible year with the Angels and has managed 2 decent seasons thanks to pitching in the NL. If you switch him out with Feldman, you aren’t getting the same results.

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have been ripping Feldman....

but I will say last night…if the Rangers would have had 5 runs, he would have gotten a standing ovation for giving up 2 runs in 5 plus innings……

by dontcallmeElvis on Jul 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, not completely

I wouldn’t just cut him, but I would give him away to save $12.3 million thru 2012.

Realistically, he’s had one good year, and you can debate how good it really was.

by Darrell McKown on Jul 25, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not ready...

to give up on the guy or just give him away.

His performance this year has just been frustrating given the success of the rest of the team.

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by slc ranger on Jul 25, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't just give Feldman away

You simply can’t. Not if you want to go into 2011 with the type of pitching depth a championship contender needs.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 25, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

So if you had the Rangers roster this offseason, minus Feldman, and he was non-compensation free agent, you would offer him a 2-year, $11.5 million contract?

by Darrell McKown on Jul 25, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is value in his durability

He provides mediocrity, and 180-200 innings of mediocrity has value.

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by tricer on Jul 25, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not Adam, but I would

Feldman has basically been a number 4 starter this year and I think we can all agree that he hasn’t been pitching above his head to achieve that. A pitcher like Feldman who can still give you 190+ innings of that kind of production when he isn’t at his best is worth that kind of money. And given the Rangers situation of being able to break in a lot of young starters over the next couple of years, having some stability in the rotation is a great thing.

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he throws the ball anything (ANYTHING) like he did in 2009

…he’ll get much different results next year. This year, though…I’m willing to give his slot to Holland. If he doesn’t pitch well then I’d have no problem going back to Feldman even the way he’s pitching now.

It’s been brought up that he’s had one good year, but nobody should forget that he was drafted as a side-arm reliever, made his way through the minors as a side-arm reliever, and got to the big leagues as a side-arm reliever. Last year was only his second year as a starting pitcher and I don’t think it’s debatable. He had a good year. Even though he’s having a shitty season in 2010 it’s easy to see why, and he’s worth keeping if he can get his sinker and cutter back.

When you sign a free agent for $6MM a year, I doubt you have the kind of upside Feldman has, which is a legit #3 or #4 starter on a playoff team or a damn good #5.

by Black Francis on Jul 25, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was drafted as what he is now, or something similar

He just had to go through TJ surgery shortly after being drafted and the Rangers then converted him to a side-arm reliever. I agree with the rest of that though, just wanted to point out a small correction.

Also, I’d say that Feldman’s upside is more of a legit #3 starter with his current performance being more of a #4 starter.

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jorge Cantu

What would it take to get him?

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by tricer on Jul 25, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

OT:

If you float the Guadalupe for 6 hours, it will be very easy to identify the places you didn’t apply sunscreen to. Also, one other thing…I saw a dude with a Texas Rangers lower back tattoo. Tattoo-cool..placement-not so much.

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by AndrusImpersonator on Jul 25, 2010 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

A dude with a Texas Rangers tramp stamp?

Righteous.

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by TXHC on Jul 25, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rev would love it heh

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
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by RangersSD on Jul 25, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last night at the ballpark, I actually got my boyfriend to believe I'd gotten a Rangers tramp stamp while on vacation.

Being at the ballpark and walking the busy concourse, he couldn’t just demand to see it. I had him going for a good few minutes until I couldn’t hold the laughter in anymore.

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by RachelB on Jul 25, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see why he couldn't demand to see it there.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 25, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he could have,

But it would have been impractical. I spilled it before we reached a stopping point.

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by RachelB on Jul 25, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was Dirkatron

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jul 25, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It probably said pears somewhere around it

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 25, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I floated the Guadalupe Fri and the Comal Sat. Had my Rangers cap on both days.

A lot of folks were like “Sweet, you’re a Rangers fan. They’re doing awesome this year.”

I would say “Yeah man, they have put together pretty good team. Cliff Lee totally puts them over the top.”

Folks: “The Rangers have Cliff Lee?” “Who?” or my fav. “They traded with the Astros for Lee?”

Hop on the wagon folks. Hop on.

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by AceJC on Jul 25, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wes Helms?

I think they have someone with better numbers than Helms and all he would cost is Arias, his name is Ryan Garko, why are they looking at scrubs when they have a decent scrub who could platoon at first with Davis.

by TRFAN on Jul 25, 2010 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

garko sucks

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sorta agree with you. Yeah, we have a relevant scrub already - Garko. I think he's worth a 2-3 week looksee.

Then ship him back down and cut ties after the season.

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by jackanape on Jul 25, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather roll with Garko...

than give up anything of value for Wes Helms.

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by slc ranger on Jul 25, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I made a troll name...monkeygonetoheaven

to post at HH when we clinched. and it got banned. before I even posted anything.

Rev is Ernest.

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by RangerFloppy on Jul 25, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

My membership over there just kicked in

But as I figured my vitriol and cooled. Rev pulled the picture we bitched about yesterday but the poll from a few days ago still pisses me off. Whatever. I’ll keep the accout for a bit.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 25, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

So

anyone else agree with Newberg in regards to wanting CD to learn to play catcher

by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 25, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

seems like he would have the arm and the feet for it

But why would we trade one .200-hitting catcher for another .200 catcher who has yet to learn the position?

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Newberg's brain

is handling the overload of endomprphines being generated by the Rangers winning.

by RangerMad on Jul 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Gdawg on Jul 25, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Noooooo

Why would you train somebody that is 6’4" tall or taller to play catcher? That person has to be in a crouch for a lot of games, a lot of time on the field during a game, and it has to be easier for someobyd that is around 6 feet tall. I know there are some exceptions, but it is a really stupid idea.

I used to be a High School JV baseball coach and catcher was the most difficult position to find somebody that could catch. You can’t just take a first baseman, arguably the easiest defensive position, and put somebody back as a catch, arguably the most difficult defensive position. Even the best athletes often can’t handle the wear and tear of being a catcher. This may be the most stupid idea a sports columnist has come up with this year.

by Philar on Jul 25, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

ummm

Joe Mauer and Matt Wieters would like to have a word wit you…

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by 8legs2fangs on Jul 25, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easier to fill the 1B position

than it is to fill the C position.

So long as he was permitted to fail, and either DH or move back to 1B, I see great upside there.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 26, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

From Twitter
Manny_Navarro #Marlins: Rangers continue to discuss potential trade for Cantu. If the deal is completed, Coghlan would move to 3B

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm on board

He’d be a pretty big upgrade at 1b.

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by tricer on Jul 25, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I would like to see Cantu happen too.

Of course it depends on the cost though.

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by slc ranger on Jul 25, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a defensive disaster.

And he’s not at all a significant upgrade over Davis offensively.

P.S. He’s a DISASTER defensively.

by JDT217 on Jul 25, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Davis has an OPS+ of 40 this season, wOBA is .239

So yeah, Cantu would be a significant offensive upgrade. And while he isn’t a good defensive 3b, I’d bet that Cantu would be fine at first defensively.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 25, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm operating under the assumption that Cantu wouldn't cost anything that would really hurt to give up

Who knows if that is a safe assumption…

Anyway, you would be okay with going into the playoffs with a 1b posting a .239 wOBA?

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 25, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why would we trade for Cantu

when we already have his twin in OKC in Garko?

by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 25, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on peopl

Cantu is and has always been better than Ryan Garko.

by eric03tx on Jul 25, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate Sunday night games...

damn MLB TV restrictions.

And of course ESPN won’t show the Rangers/Angels tonight.

Shit.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 25, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I understand that...

I don’t have a problem with the Rangers playing the games at night.

I have a problem with paying $200 bucks to watch the games and missing some games because of MLB’s shitty TV deal.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 25, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah

ok yea luckily i live only 2 hrs away from the DFW so i catch probably almost all the games on local tv, never had the mlb or nfl packages

by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 25, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

But how did you only pay $200? Mine was about $380.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 25, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Directv MLB package.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 25, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm thinking of the the NFL package

That could explain how I was off on the numbers.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

will it be blacked out on mlb.tv tonight as well?

Can anyone explain to me how to set up stream torrent? everytime I try, it won’t connect to the internet all of the way. I even tried turning off my windows firewall and my kaspersky firewall. Still wouldn’t connect.

by Tex2044 on Jul 25, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

but

 i like sunday night games especially when im working on Sundays , Fuck ESPN

by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 25, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

I wouldn’t be suprised if JD wait until Aug 31 to make a deal for a RHB 1B. They need one for the playoffs.

by RangerMad on Jul 25, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they will get either

Cantu or Wiggington. They have been extremely aggressive thus far in the trade market, and with the team playing so well I would expect them to follow through on the rumors we have been hearing. If it gets them a WS win, I dont really care what happens to our prospects.

by eric03tx on Jul 25, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

and I'm not advocating

making stupid trades and completely jeopardizing the future, but a WS win would pretty much make me forget about any prospect we had traded to get there.

by eric03tx on Jul 25, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

and in related news

CD since his callup .200/.245/.244

by RangerMad on Jul 25, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a note about Oakland, it seems they have located the offense and are running

over the white sox as they get ready to fly into Texas, I hope that the rangers are not just looking at the Angels, because the A’s are getting better, don’t take them lightly.

by TRFAN on Jul 25, 2010 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Stick a fork in the Halos...I've been saying it for a long time.

Our competition down the stretch will be the Oakland A’s (13 of their last 64 games are with Rangers).

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 25, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not too worried about the A's

Sheets is injured and their bats are unimpressive. I don’t see them making up 7.5 games.

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jul 26, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

OT - Angels get Dan Haren

Cost them Joe Saunders and some spares.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 25, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Grieve = Substitute?

Random and off-topic, but still a puzzler: the outro music to Tom Grieve’s Rangers HOF induction ceremony last night was the Ramones’ (cover of The Who’s) “SUBSTITUTE.” Within the context of a tribute it sounded strange at best, backhanded at worst. Did Tom pick it? What the heck was it supposed to mean?

by BruceChen on Jul 25, 2010 7:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Look at between

4:00 and 4:10 at the guy holding the Machine Gun on the Long Version of the Ramone video for Substitute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncZqouedzQ

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by DJCahill on Jul 26, 2010 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanx for the schooling

DJ, thanks for the info, obviously I wasn’t hip to that piece of Grieve/Rangers lore. I trust that the improbable story will be chatted up in the booth sometime during the rest of this season

by BruceChen on Jul 28, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

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