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Monday a.m. Rangers things

That was a pretty good series, I have to say.  Taking 3 of 4 from the Angels, getting the lead in the West to 7 games with 63 games to go, and now we have the Swingin' A's coming in for three games, at a time when they are vying to pass Anaheim for third place in the A.L. West.

Jeff Wilson says in his game story that the Rangers and Angels are closely matched, with only two runs separating the teams in the games they've played against each other so far this season.

T.R. Sullivan's game story talks about George W. Bush turning to Nolan Ryan to get him tickets for yesterday's game, with over 170,000 folks showing up in all over the four game series.

Evan Grant says the Rangers are playing more like the Angels right now than the Angels are.

Jeff Caplan has some post-game notes up at ESPN Dallas.

Chris Cox has some extensive notes up at the Rangers' website, with Ron Washington saying that he started David Murphy in place of Julio Borbon for the second time in four games to keep Murphy "engaged," while saying he isn't concerned about Vladimir Guerrero's recent slump.

Wash might not be concerned about Vlad, but I am a little concerned right now...in July, Vlad is hitting .200/.273/.313, including .129/.229/.161 in his last 8 games.  You have to wonder if he isn't wearing down right now, and if he wouldn't be well served with some time off the next couple of months, so that he'll be rested come October.

Anthony Andro's notes in the S-T talk about Guerrero's slump, the Rangers' reaction to learning the Angels had landed Dan Haren, and Ron Washington saying there are no plans to drop Scott Feldman from the rotation.

Cox writes that the Rangers are saying they can't concern themselves with what the Angels do, or who they trade for. 

While, as I mentioned yesterday, I think this deal is a steal for Anaheim, I am wondering if the D-Backs won't end up flipping Joe Saunders at some point in the next few weeks...if they can get a team needing cheap pitching to overpay for Saunders, it would help make that deal look a little better for Arizona, although they still got rolled.

Gil Lebreton writes that the Haren deal is about helping Anaheim in 2011 and beyond, rather than 2010.

Drew Davison has a story about Neftali Feliz, and his adjustment to taking over the closer role with the Rangers.

Richard Durrett has a story up looking at the possibility of Josh Hamilton winning the MVP this year.  I think that, if the Rangers win the West, Hamilton will end up as the MVP...everything just fits together to well for Hamilton not to win it, I think.

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Hamilton has to be the MVP

He’s now got a comfortable lead on the WAR leaderboard but he’s also got all the traditional stats that everyone loves to keep track of. And of course this amazing streak he’s been on since June 1st that doesn’t seem to end anytime soon.

And remember the last time you had some concerns about Vlad? This is some good timing to worry about him if you want him to help keep the A’s out of the race.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

M Cab might win the triple crown

if Tigers go to the playoffs, he has a great shot.

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

With Inge and Mags out for a bit, he might not see much to hit anytime soon.

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by bking on Jul 26, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cabrera gives you nothing defensively

Hamilton plays a great LF with plenty of highlight plays. Cabrera butchering 1B isn’t going to help him out any when their offensive stats are so similar, outside of RBIs.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do defensive stats

play in the MVP race often?

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by DJCahill on Jul 26, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not

for a Corner infielder or Corner outfielder. But that probably helps Carl Crawford over Hamilton.

and, don’t count out Robinson Cano.

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[gives a quick stab to the guy]
Mal: guess I'm just a good man
[stabs him again]
Mal: well, I'm all right

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by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can you please decrease the size of your sig?

I’m not trying to be rude or anything, but you post a lot (which is fine) and it takes up half my screen to read a 3-word post of yours

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's especially noticeable when you're trying to do LSB mobile

instead of listening to the meeting you’re sitting in.

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by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, but defensive reputation does.

I don’t think the stats guys are the only ones aware of Cabrera’s awfulness at 1b.

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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

It depends

If you’re talking about Hamilton vs. Cabrera, I think it can play a role. Like I said, Hamilton has the highlight plays that the more uninformed voters will appreciate while still definitely having the huge defensive edge for anyone who actually does consider defense somewhat seriously.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

A little of both

I think Hamilton will win and I think he will deserve it.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hamilton would beat Cabrera

not even passing judgment on whether he should or shouldn’t – but the writers who vote will be biased towards Hamilton’s past recovery story more than Cabrera’s more recent problems. If Hamilton is close to the best, he’ll win.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jul 26, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm
The Rangers are known to be seeking a right-handed hitting first baseman, perhaps a platoon partner for Chris Davis. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that they are “in deep conversations” with the Marlins for Jorge Cantu, and “taking a close look” at the Cubs’ Derrek Lee. They’d also like to add another starting pitcher and a lefty reliever.

Lee is the new name in the mix for the Rangers, though he and Cantu are used to being regulars. Neither player has hit like a regular first baseman this year – Cantu is at .260/.309/.412, and Lee stands at .251/.338/.391. Their contracts are significant – Cantu has $2.28MM remaining and Lee has $4.95MM. The Rangers have also been linked to players such as Ty Wigginton, Mike Lowell, and Wes Helms.

Nightengale’s contention that the Rangers would like to add another starter is surprising. Four days ago, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports suggested on Twitter that a pitching surplus could make Rich Harden or Scott Feldman trade bait.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

"Neither player has hit like a regular first baseman this year"

this sounds familiar….
 
Lee is an interesting twist…the Cubs have been a train wreck this year with the Zambrano incident and Pinella leaving. I wonder if “change of scenery” theory and being traded to a contender would give him new life? $4.95 mil is a lot, though…what would the Rangers have to give up to make that work?

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 26, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Derek Lee has been heating up in July

although his isolated power has been regressing over the past four or five years (last year excluded)

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could actually see the Cubs being interested in a Feldman/Chris Davis for Lee swap.

It’d be nice to be rid of Feldman.

Obviously Davis could come back and chomp us on the fleshy part of our penis, but that deal could make sense for all sides.

Maybe.

Lee has pretty much fallen off the side of the cliff this season.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't trust Derek Lee

He could be incredibly infuriating

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

But there's always this:

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey I know that guy!

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

did he punch him right in the face?

Looks like he gets him square in the grill here.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

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by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

He totally whiffed. Kind of makes my point

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still a hundred times better than whatever this was...

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That fight started out with so much promise

How do you miss if you’re derek lee and standing that close.

More importantly, how do you miss if you’re chris young punching down

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those are two big mother fuckers.

Lee did a great job slipping back and avoiding that opening haymaker from Young.

I remember Lee saying afterwards he had no idea it was coming, Young apparently just wanted to fight.

Young apparently came up and asked if he was hurt after Lee got hit and was grimacing on his way to first. Lee said yah, he was good. Young then said, “Good, then stop being a pussy and take your base then” and threw the punch.

Ha ha.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would do that in a heartbeat

but then again, I’m about the biggest Davis hater here now that Josey has disappeared, and my anti-Feldman complaints last week practically started this weekend’s brouhaha…

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jul 26, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

More BK news
dkaplanSBJ Have SBJ piece today looking at how Greenberg and Ryan have very few $s at stake in Rangers, and what that could mean for running the team

dkaplanSBJ Status conference for next week’s TX Rangers auction set for 10:30 AM CT this morning; I’ll tweet anything interesting

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Jeff Passan

His article on Yahoo sports about the Halos and Dan Haren said “The 7 game divide between the Angels and the Rangers looks more like a creek than a canyon.”

My ass. Haren is meat in the AL.. Bring that fucker on!

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by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 26, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Exclamation point!!!!!!!

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

7 games is huge, f him.

Haren is solid, but over-worked. AZ would just leave him out there to die. He’s ranked 8th in pitcher abuse points.

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by RA Dickey on Jul 26, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haren did pretty well when he pitched for Oakland

Last time I checked they were in the AL.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you not see the exclamation point?
My ass. Haren is meat in the AL.. Bring that fucker on!

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

The exclamation point...

…trumps all!

He's not a regular bum, he's a genius bum

by Chad Crudup on Jul 26, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I forgot the exclalmation point trumps all!!!!!!!!

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you are looking for some hope though

Oakland does have a pitcher friendly park.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 26, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its my home away from home.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well played

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

but that was long ago....

and in that national park that is the Oak Col.

Not saying he sucked in the AL…just much different circumstances.

Don’t know if he’s going to get shit on, I just don’t think he’s near the pitcher he used to be.

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by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

But what were his splits on the road in the AL those 3 years?

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

FIP over last 3 years

2008 — 3.01
2009 — 3.23
2010 — 3.91

Technically you’re right, but he’s still a pretty damn good pitcher. I’d take him on my team.

He’s a flyball pitcher, and I don’t think Hunter is good enough to consistently overcome Abreau and Rivera in the OF, so it’s entirely possible LAAA won’t be able to maximize his effectiveness.

by elvis1isking on Jul 26, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they add Crawford in the offseason

That could be rather unpleasant for us.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

especially if

the ownership situation drags on and the Rangers are unable to fill their own needs at catcher and 1B.

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by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is Willits in LF going to be a regular thing for LAA?

I’m not sure how good a LF Willits really is but his speed simply has to be better than Rivera and Matsui.

by Inkara1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's 29 and it's one year

his peripheral suggests that it might be an off year. He will be a good starter for them next year. Haren, Weaver and Santana is a good top three to start off with. I don’t think you can write him off based on this year based on his track record.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't write him off

but if you don’t want to worry about Haren at least for the rest of this season, you write him off and enjoy the 7 game lead on the division.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't writing him off bc of his year.

Just saying that success in Oakland (which is a notorious pitchers park for a FB pitcher) 3 seasons ago doesn’t mean he’s going to be automatic coming back to the A.L.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

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by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

cool

I’m with you there. I agree that he is likely to not have a major impact this year as well.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really hope that he doesn't make that transition smoothly

If Dan Haren pulls a Vazquez for the Angels, it might make up for all their shitty luck over the past few years.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh, the Angels just made it more likely they'd finish in 2nd instead of 3rd

But it does give them a nice head start filling holes for 2011. Haren and Weaver are a nice front to the rotation.

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by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that...

but he only helps every 5th day… they haven’t only been sucking on the 5th days. Saunders and Kazmir have both been terrible. Haren replaces one of them… but you still have a hole in the rotation.

by JShoe on Jul 26, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Haren can be their DH

His .902 OPS is the best on the Angels’ current roster (Hunter is at .878).

by Inkara1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haren

is still posting an xFIP of 3.38, a high BABIP (.350), only 1.5 BB/9 and 140 strikeouts. HR rate and strand rate are also slightly out of line with his career norms. He’s still a really good pitcher, and all this talk about him being a guy with below average stuff who can’t pitch in the AL is probably a little too ‘homer’ for me. The only thing statistically that we can actually hold our hats on is that he is a historically terrible second half pitcher. Hopefully that continues. Otherwise, this is a really good move for the next couple of years and I’m praying the rangers can solidify the rotation after the ownership settles (if ever) after the season.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will admit I'm probably letting my homerism cloud any judgement.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haren FIP and xFIP career average by month

July: 3.36 FIP, 3.52 xFIP
Aug: 4.28 FIP, 3.37 xFIP
Sep: 3.61 FIP, 3.64 xFIP

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

This idea that Haren sucks in the 2nd half

is really annoying and needs to stop. Thanks for posting that.

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by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I love advanced stats too

but somehow he has managed to be “unlucky” and post a 4.58 ERA in August and a 4.29 ERA in September/October over his career. Whether thats bad luck or not (his peripherals don’t change much as noted by the xFIP posted) the results have not been good in after the all-star break. If you don’t like those statistics fine, but over 7 years that has to mean something.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't for you

Either way his actual results, as in real in game performance and NOT underlying statistics like FIP, xFIP, etc has been mediocre. I’m not saying that you go in expecting him to be bad in the second half, but to say simply that it’s a myth isn’t completely true. I’m simply saying, hopefully he will have a mediocre second half when he is an angel because it wouldn’t be unique to his actual results, but would in fact be right in line with some of his mediocre results.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look

If you want to reward on stuff like wins in a season for end of year awards, fine. I disagree, but I don’t have as big a problem with it as others.

But if you’re talking about what Haren’s ERA is likely to be in front of a neutral defense in a neutral park, then you have to realize that FIP and xFIP are going to be much more predictive than previous ERA.

If we’re playing a game with a die and you lose if a number from 1 to 4 shows up and win if a 5 or 6 shows up, do you suddenly feel better about your odds if the first 6 rolls are a 5 or 6? FIP and xFIP are much closer to the real odds moving forward, especially after you adjust for park, league and defense.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

Maybe I’m not articulating my point well, because to begin with I made a similar point that you did that he is a really good pitcher and that you can’t write him off. I don’t need a lecture on how this works and how a pitchers results change when his defense changes and his park changes. All I was simply saying was ‘hey he’s a really good pitcher who worries me, at least he has had some bad results in the second half, hopefully that continues happening’, NOT ‘He will definitely continue to have bad results and his peripherals are definitely bad in the second half, end of story.’

And pitcher wins are stupid.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Put simply

I hope he rolls a lot of sixes as an angel because he has a few times in the past. Understand?

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I s'pose

We just have different approaches.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not analytically because

I completely, 100% agree with you on everything you have put out there in this conversation. It’s just now that Haren is an Angel and that we have to face him the next two + years, I’m going to hope desperately that he sucks. Period. Regardless of anything there to suggest that he is a great pitcher. But like you, I would never gamble on that because there is too much there that says he is just as good in April as he is in August.

So you see? I’m with you on this!

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

3.36 and 3.61 FIP

isn’t mediocre, so whatever his ERA has been for those two months most likely means the team isn’t performing all that well when he pitches.

That’s kinda the point of FIP (and xFIP)… right?

by elvis1isking on Jul 26, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes

geez guys, not arguing this. AT ALL

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 26, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like Passan buys into the old "post ASB Ranger collapse" talk....

there’s only one problem…these aren’t your dad’s Texas Rangers

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 26, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

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Pimp it some more please

I’m not sure anyone is aware of it

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by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No problem!

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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 26, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

ha ha

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

KLaw on Haren Deal

If you have Insider status, KLaw has a piece up on the Haren deal, he’s a lot higher on Haren than most around here:

Haren is a workhorse, good for nearly 1,100 innings over the last five years and 168 starts, with declining walk totals and increasing strikeout rates… His main problem this year, aside from bad defense behind him, has been giving up too many home runs. However, he’s moving from a good home run park to a terrible one…

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

But, but

Someone said Zona is a pitchers park!!!!!

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay.

No, it’s not a home run park the way US Cellular is, but it is homer friendly, at least for lefties (where it’s comparable to Philly). It’s slightly friendlier than neutral for righties.

But, it does not play slightly to an offense’s advantage. It’s an extreme hitters park. No park promotes lefties more, and only Colorado is better for righties (and Texas is similar).

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rest for Vladdy is a must.

The injuries will come soon if we don’t get him and Josh regular rest.

If only we had a fourth outfielder-type down in AAA we could possibly bring up when the rosters expand, in order to let Josh DH and let Vladdy rest a bit more… Oh, hello Brandon Boggs.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd hold him out of the opener v. Oak...give him 2 days off.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

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by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Falco was a dick!!!

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Slippy was a bitch

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Falco was a dick.

A real fucking dick. I hated that fucking dude.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was always glad when he got shot down.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I liked that he was your only wingman who would ever do something.

I never had to worry about Leon in the Star Wolf battles. If I concentrated on the other three, by the time they were done, Falco had probably shot down Leon.

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

we should give vlad

some time off and let teagarden DH a couple times a week when hes not catching

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jul 26, 2010 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Awwww..... You goin' straight to hell fo that one!

Fo shur, Fo shur, Fo shur

(said by Robin Williams impersonating Jim Nabors).

Mal: [after knocking his dueling opponent to the ground] Sure, it would be humiliating having to lie there while a better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy is the mark of a great man
[gives a quick stab to the guy]
Mal: guess I'm just a good man
[stabs him again]
Mal: well, I'm all right

Mal: Well look at this. 'Pears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?
Zoë: Big damn heroes, sir.
Mal: Ain't we just.

by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only a matter of time for AJM to post this.
TicketRadio RT @1310ticketless: RT @max547 Martellus Bennett Becomes Latest Player Have Dong Exposed By Scorned Female http://deadspin.com/5596513/

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

really? what kind of dipshits do this?

I don’t get it.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
what kind of dipshits do this?

You must not be familiar with “Marty B,” the Kevin Mench of the Cowboys.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
You must not be familiar with "Marty B," the Kevin Mench of the Cowboys.

I don’t get it.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has a big head.

How’s that for a double aunt ’Taundra?

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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't either

I guess he’s suggesting Marty B is an idiot.

But having followed Marty B since he was a five-star recruit, I’ve always viewed him as a good natured ham who just likes to clown things up and enjoy life.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

They both have some talent but aren’t nearly as good as they, or their vocal supporters, seem to think they are.

And criticisms of them result in more backlash than is warranted, and defenses about how they’re “fun” and we should loosen up.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin Mench
  1. on BA’s top 100 list in 2001.

Of course, I’m probably not as sold on the greatness of Marty B. as a lot of his supoprters are.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA HEAT PEARS ON YOU NOW!

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, #1!!!

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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

A huge part of his value has always been his blocking

He was the best blocker on the A&M offensive line most of the time he was there.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is certainly damning with faint praise

I will admit, I largely soured on him when I read an article about him in his junior year at A&M, where it talked about how the coaches were frustrated with him because of his poor route running.

He was quoted in there explaining that it was his job to get open, and if he had a choice between running his route or running to a place where he’d be open, he’s going to run to where he’s open.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I do that too

You run to an open spot and then you wave your hands to let the QB know you are open. Very effective.

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tend to absolve him of anything involving disagreements with the Coach Fran regime about the passing game

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind.

Dennis Franchione was the one in charge of his routes. Do you think the diagramed routes were very good?

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

The only WR route Fran knew was “block the cornerback for the option.”

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

See?

You guys are making my point for me.

It is like Kevin Mench. No matter what “Marty B” does, there will be excuses made for him.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 26, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You do realize that the Coach Fran Era at A&M was one of the most insane, disastrous events in my lifetime of college football, right?

I’ll make excuses for a lot of players who played during that time because it was such a mess.

To borrow a line from Emmitt Smith in his short time at ESPN, we got debacled.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you are being kind.

It was 5 years of unmitigated disaster, setting the program back at least 10 years. Coach Brown should be utterly embarrassed at losing to A&M twice in the Franchione years.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't follow Big 12 football

Can you give me a brief summary of what happened? Curious

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm, let's see if I can provide a thorough, succinct analysis without yelling at my computer

Terrible recruiter. Wasted many of his limited scholarships on kids who a) never made it to campus, b) quit/got kicked out of school, or c) weren’t Big 12 quality players to begin with.

Even more terrible at player development. Decided strength was more important than speed. Virtually every top-notch recruit left the Fran era as a worse player than when they arrived on campus.

Even more terrible at building relationships with high school coaches. Somehow managed to singlehandedly destroy a pipeline to one of the most talent-rich high schools in the state (Lufkin).

Decided a full-blown option running attack was the answer to the Big 12 becoming a spread passing-happy league. Turned talented receivers into blockers. Turned one of the most prolific passers in Texas high school history into a guy who ran the ball 30 times a game.

Terrible with alumni, ex-players (who were essentially made unwelcome at practice and on the sidelines), and fans. Had a personal spin control expert/P.R. rep who would go on message boards and appear at public functions and pick fights with fans.

The only thing worse than our offense was our defense.

Basically, imagine a college football corollary of the 1970s Rangers run by John Hart, with the Drew Meyer draft and the 2010 Baltimore series all rolled into one.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't even mention the internet report scam

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh dear Lord I forgot all about the VIP Connection

Thanks for bring that back.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got into multiple e-mail fights with that prick who wrote all his e-mails.

Fucking guy even called me on the phone one time to tell me I was an idiot and had no idea what I was talking about. Blew my mind. I was so happy when Byrne finally canned him as a result of the e-mail scandal.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn.

And I thought I was annoyed with Bobby Bowden the last few years.

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if he told Bennett to run around in circles

is it ever ok for a WR not to run the correct route? Running to a place where your QB isn’t’ expecting you doesn’t help the situation any.

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure they even had routes

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are giving Fran too much credit.

I don’t think any player on that team had any idea what was happening at any time, ever.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be clear, you were one of the guys

making excuses for Mench, were you not?

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

3.5 WAR in 2004... That's pretty good.

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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always assume Mench used HGH

ever since his feet grew a shoe size.

I didn't know what a mancrush was. Derek Holland showed me.

by DerekSTheRed on Jul 26, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

his interview on KRLD when he was in arlington playing with toronto

was hilarious. felt it was a joke that he couldn’t get a major league deal at the start of the year (or whatever the situation was) and such.

..and he hasn’t been seen since.

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by DShep on Jul 26, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know he's a clown.

I was just commenting on this whole “Let’s take a picture of our big mules and send them to a chick who I want to bang, but don’t really know all that well”

Lots of athletes and celebrities do it, I don’t get it…maybe it’s the digital age or something.

whatever the reason, they’re all idiots.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

How else do you get the chicks to message you back on Friendster?

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its not just athletes and celebrities

They’re just the ones you hear about because they have a famous person attached to their genitalia.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

okay, whoever, I still don't get it.

but maybe it’s bc I’m hung like a pack rat and would never do it…I dunno.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

we got a memo at work not too long ago

reminding us that it’s not a wise idea for us to do this. Seriously.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jul 26, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

Is this a popular cop thing?

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

the guys running the department

are always afraid that we’re going to do stuff that is as dumb or dumber than the shit they used to do when they weren’t in charge, so we’re constantly getting emails reminding us to watch what we post oon FB, online, etc. I’ll bet how it happens is one old guy reads about athlete dong exposure and says “That’s a great idea! I wish we had cell phone cameras and myspace back in the day!”

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jul 26, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

So I lived in Midland last year and the Midland Co. Sheriff's office got into some heat

because a few of the officers were caught taking pictures with some waitresses from a bar. There was a meeting down here in Austin and afterwards, on the way home, they ate at Twin Peaks in Georgetown. So after eating, the officers invite the girls out to the car where they pose with their shotguns and laying on top of the hood of the sheriff car. Literally, the girls were holding the guns, two on each hip, while sitting on the hood.

I was surprised only one of the guys were fired. It was quite the uproar out west.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The same type of thing happened a couple of years ago with a SWAT team from Jersey

they were down south helping out in the Katrina aftermath and when they were driving back up, they stopped at a Hooters. Well, the Hooters waitresses thought they were just swell…so they ended up taking about a trillion pics of the Hooters ladies with their full cache of weapons WITH the officers and posed leaning up against their mobile command truck. The chief of that department dismantled the team. And, of course, we got an email from our team commander about how we are not to do stuff like that. The dumb ones make the jobs harder for the non-dumb ones.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jul 26, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

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-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Marty B reports on the "true" pulse of the players????

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by bking on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

You should read up on him....

this isn’t his first dalliance with stupidity….

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 26, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why?
dkaplanSBJ Alex Rodriguez has his own representative at the TX Rangers auction status conference

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't they owe him like 20-30mm?

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

How is this not green?

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 26, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is now

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

the dirk.

"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."

by Feliz es bueno on Jul 26, 2010 1:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What?

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you Mudville Madcows?

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

attendance

Nice crowds this weekend but the Angels always bring out Ranger fans. There was only about a 4500 increase per game for the series over last years series in June.

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

way wrong

Maybe the series last September but the series last June (I believe there was terrible weather during that time) had attendances of 16985, 20042, and 27142 for a average of 21390

This series averaged 42962 over a 100% increase from last June

by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

So hot

We need to convince the Rangers that a Prince acquisition would pay for itself in terms of attendance.

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

The guy that doesn't believe in the internet?

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

He believes in the internet

It’s not like a dinosaurs/Everett thing. He just thinks it’s over

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're right

I was looking at the May 15-17 weekend series. Point stands though.

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

AJM's description of the Bush/Nolan ticket story cracks me up

As if Bush went to TexasRangers.com to find some tickets first, couldn’t find any decent seats available, so had to call in a favor instead.

I liked the comment from Big Game:

“That was awesome,” Hunter said about pitching in front of the former President. “That was really cool. I actually got to meet him. I saw him around 6:35 [p.m.] and got his autograph and a picture. He said, ‘Go get ’em, big boy.’ He knew who I was. He said, ‘I know who you are,’ and I said, ’I know who you are, too.”

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I really like this team

They seem to be having fun night in and night out.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Put em in the thread late last night

Figured I’d post one more time. Some pics I took during the “dog parade” last night. For dog lovers only.

http://picasaweb.google.com/CoreyMatthew/DogDay#5498082375509739490

Awesome win last night, can’t wait for Lee to start tomorrow.

by ravscloC on Jul 26, 2010 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

The only dog pic that matters is the Knox vs dog skateboarding pic....

pure gold….

Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 26, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could have seen the Knox wipeout live

Luckily cameras caught that one and we’ll be reliving that for years to come. It even made MLB’s video archive!

by ravscloC on Jul 26, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where/what?! I was out!?

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm weeping

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

That will never get old

I watched it at least 20 times on the DVR last night.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want to superimpose it with Will Ferrell

talking about hanggliding during Wedding Crashers

OH OH OH AND BOOM YOU’RE DEAD… STUPID!

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is this the answer to the unstoppable force vs the immovable object debate?

Knoxie is clearly an unstoppable force (in more ways than one) but was bested by the immovable object (the piece of lumber)

Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 26, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The fat guy in the jorts at the end is perhaps even better than watching Knox get hurt.

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-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That guy is the Everyman as far as camera guys go.

The best part is the dog recognizing the need to stop and Knoxxy plowing on through.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want that guy's footage

Probably has a great shot of Knoxie’s face.

by Mike the Grate on Jul 26, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but he's cool

he’s got a hot blonde blowing in his ear as he gracefully videotapes the whole escapade

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 26, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the best part is that the dog knew to get off of the skateboard

before hitting the board….

Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 26, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's so fucking true!

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

also steered the skateboard away from Knox

when he saw that Knox was probably going to run him over

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh, man....had to be a top 3 moment for Knoxie (as far as we're concerned, anyway)

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 26, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

And he’s had some ridiculous moments

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want more!

Give me more!

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh noez

This is actually making me start to appreciate him in a strange way :(

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by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's weird that some of the videos say he died

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And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 26, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

My wife loved the pics

She keeps telling me we need to go for the dog night and take our two mutts. I imagine that it’s a huge pain trying to watch the game and the dogs at the same time.

by Mike the Grate on Jul 26, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

AZ is a pretty big hitters' park

I think Haren is a bit underrated if that’s what those teams are thinking. A guy with a K/BB ratio right around 5 the last 3 seasons, and a BaBIP of .350 right now, the Dbacks sold low. Stupid.

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

bought high and sold low

that’s usually not a very successful strategy.

by elvis1isking on Jul 26, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let me just pose this question

do you think all the teams, including the yanks, who wouldnt trump this trade are stupid then

i have to believe that the plethora of teams who were hesitant to trade for Haren werent complete idiots

by Horns130 on Jul 26, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Becoming increasingly more likely that nobody wanted to trump him

Seems like we would have heard something by now about another team being pissed that that’s all that it took to get him

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

I think it is POSSIBLE that teams had people that knew more than we did and didnt want Haren

by Horns130 on Jul 26, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I think it is possible…but i also dont think they are that stupid…it is highly possible that i have way too much faith in the GMs of the other teams

but i do think the yankees are a fairly smart team, and they definitely wanted him and werent willing to beat that

by Horns130 on Jul 26, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I think they really are that stupid

DiPoto praised Saunders’ win total in the press conference. If he doesn’t really believe that, than you don’t make the deal. If no other team beats that, you KEEP Haren, you don’t just sell low and take what you can get.

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by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont disagree on many levels

Im merely looking to find some reasoning behind all of it

by Horns130 on Jul 27, 2010 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fucking CRO. Go Bud!!
dkaplanSBJ Breaking News: CRO requests an Aug 9,not an Aug 4 auction date for TX Rangers, but MLB has said there is not nuff time for Aug 12 close then

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In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Because that is the CRO's job

Who really knows….

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because the CRO wants a bludgeoning?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see how 5 days can make a difference.

If it does, then I don’t want that potential bidder to own the Texas Rangers

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

Do the creditors want Greenberg to go away? What does 5 days buy the potential bidders?

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you bringing the creditors up?

The CRO is not the creditors.

My guess is any extra time is helpful and the CRO probably just wanted to push it as lose to the hard Aug. 12 date as he could

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

He kinda is since this is closer to a liquidation than a reorganization

Since the debtor is being is sold I’m sure he agrees with the creditors more time could mean a higher price. And the creditors don’t really want Greenberg to go away. They just want the threat of that to prompt Hicks/HSG to kick in more money up front instead of assumption of debt.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 26, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

You keep saying it is a liquidation but I still don't understand why that means the CRO favors creditors to this extent

1) I don’t think it is a full liquidation because the Rangers will still be an entity and the CRO still has to look out for any outstanding debt or claims that can be enforced against the Rangers at a later time

2) To that extent, the CRO needs to get the lenders a good deal. But why does he have to proceed like the lenders’ claims will prevail for certain when there is nothing to suggest they will – at least not against the Rangers. There is no lien (outside the 75M) on the rangers and the breach of contract claims would be against previous owners. Why is the CRO so concerned with funneling money to the lenders?

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he "favors" the creditors

He just agrees with their position that more time might mean a better bid on the Rangers. That’s a reasonable assumption. The converse is if Greenberg loses his financing that could mean one less bidder which is bad but I don’t even think the creditors want that – it’s just a threat.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 26, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand what the CRO still has in this process still...

…why is he asking for a later date? Is he a creditor rep now?

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by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

why the massive hard on for Greenberg?

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by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

He clearly doesn't like Greenberg

because Greenberg probably hasn’t made enough concessions in his eyes – which is why he keeps trying to dick Greenberg over repeatedly

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't they already agreed upon August 4th?

Dickhead CRO can go ahead and ask for a change again? The funk?

by cmkelly29 on Jul 26, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

God ALMIGHTY..

JUST SHUT THE EFF UP ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me?

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Way man....

talking about the CRO.

I love you dude, I would never say that to you.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhh I love you too

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haren trade

What would the equivalent Rangers package be?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 26, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe

Feldman/Beavean/Main, even though the latter 2 are no longer in our system. I could be totally wrong though.

by eric03tx on Jul 26, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's way underselling Skaggs.

I think he’s well above Main and even my beloved C-Wun at this point.

Stats from Low-A:
8.96 k9
2.38 bb9
51% Groundballs
30.4%FlyBalls
15% Linedrives

Plus he only turned 19 this month.

Yah, that’s good.

He’s still got some projection left, too. (6’4", 180 according to Proscpect Handbook)

BA was really high on his slider coming into the season, saying “His hard 75-78 mph slider is a knockout offering that features two-pane break.”

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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

No "pane", not "pain".

As in, it can break through two fucking pane glass.

Duh.

What are you, some kind of maroon???

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

that is quite good

I didn’t know much about him, until your post there.

by eric03tx on Jul 26, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno... Feldman (with a non-guaranteed contract), WIlmer Font and Robbie Ross?

I’m gonna be honest, I don’t know enough about the other minor league pitcher to make feel comfortable making a comp.

But Skaggs is prolly a little above Font.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Skaggs

From what you said above (without doing a thorough comparison) I was thinking Erlin’s the comp. About the same age, though Erlin’s peripherals are better.

Then again, Skaggs might be more physically projectible.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 26, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, Skaggs has the clear edge in terms of being a groundballer as opposed to a flyball pitcher like Erlin, but I think the physical projection is the big difference maker.

Plus Skaggs is actually 9 months younger.

Not a huge difference, but a difference none the less.

Love Erlin, but I’d take Skaggs over Erlin in a heartbeat.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

The big news of yesterday though was of course Team Dirkatron sending Neffy Fleas to Team Sprite Man for Ben Zobrist...

…thereby shoring up all my weaknesses and guaranteeing the defeat of stupid ugly Rentzington who sucks so bad I’m not even gonna try to explain how awful he is.

The 40 trumps all!
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by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I think you got peared in that deal

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a 20+ lead in saves and a 120+ lead in K's.

This is why everyone but me is bad at fantasy.

Are you Mudville Madcows?

The 40 trumps all!
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-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you Mudville Madcows?

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No I'm Hot Carl Crawfords!!!

Help me, I’m so bad at fantasy baseball even Team Sprite Mans is almost better than me!!!

Oh’s No’s!!!!

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not in your league

I’m just a drive-by antagonizer.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Adam Dunn left the Nationals dugout to go visit Bob Uecker in the broadcast booth during the game

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Nationals-Dunn-visits-Brewers-broadcaster-Uecke?urn=mlb-258119

Good stuff:

Dunn even made it on the air, telling Uecker with a laugh that he wanted to “make sure you don’t go dying on me” before the two had a chance to go fishing.

“I could [not] care less if I get in trouble for going up and seeing my guy after he had heart surgery,” Dunn said. “I’ll pay my fine.”

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Riggleman apparently was not pleased

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

There’s clearly only one way to straighten out Adam Dunn: trade him to the Rangers for Joaquin Arias. That’ll show him!

by RCCook on Jul 26, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spidey :(

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by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like your style

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the price is right for Oswalt would ya?

I have no idea what it would take to get him though.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

The price wouldn't be right

I’d rather just roll with Holland in place of Feldman.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

He'd have to be a good deal.

He’s owed a ton of money and I’m very nervous moving Oswalt to the AL at this point.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

As would I

But if you could get him for a package close to the Haren deal you have got to do it right?

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

We wouldn't have the money

So it would come down to paying in prospects and am very muchly not interested in that proposition.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about

Feldman, Matty Ice, Font and Omar Beltre with a Little Lemon thrown in?

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, it just wouldn't work

Depth is important for this SP staff and they are going to want something with a bit higher ceiling than that.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fielder will be here shortly

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

No he is not coming here

Be nice if we could get him though.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would be fantastic

but I agree. I would be happy with Lee or Cantu.

by eric03tx on Jul 26, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, we don't really need either

But, I’d rather have Oswalt than Cantu/DLee.

He’d make a bigger difference in the playoffs, omp, seeing as our offense is already very good.

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

When did the Rangers take over first place?

I can’t remember. We have had the lead for awhile now.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Kaplan Updates, we may need a thread for this
dkaplanSBJ Judge in TX Rangers bankruptcy case just slammed lenders and CRO for opposing his auction rules, saying they wasted a week
dkaplanSBJ Judge Lynn also seems to suggest he would approve the TX Rangers bankruptcy plan even if only Greenberg and Ryan bid in auction

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

yay

honestly, this was my first thought. what the hell were they doing last week if they are just wanting to change the dates this week. What didn’t they understand?

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed - very large WTF moment.

Lynn wielding his power like a pro right now. Really didn’t think Lynn would turn out to be a straight shooter, but despite his antics (RWash on the stand and grandstanding about my court, etc., he’s been pretty fair to all parties).

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by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sources?

Didn’t know this.

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by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's the general consensus, I think, of people that appear in his court.

Don’t try to trick him or misuse the process and he won’t give you shit.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cool deal.

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome to know.

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really, you worked at SBEP?

Did you meet a girl named Nicole H?

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

We all met that fucking chick.

With our genitals, I mean.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where do you go to school?

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we've talked about this.

We should meet for lunch or something to shoot shit about the Rangers. Glad there’s another SMU law-ee around.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

SMU sucks, Tech rocks

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nah, I'm just giving you SMU boys a hard time

I’d have gone to SMU if I wanted to work in Dallas or end up on a path to becoming a corporate exec.

As it was, Tech was far and away the best fit for me.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I figured as much

You know, the number of successful execs and entrepreneurs with SMU Law degrees is pretty impressive.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

Sounds like UTSouthwestern’s medical school…‘only medical school to have 4 Nobel Laureates’ ad nauseum.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey

don’t be talking shit about UT Southwestern’s medical school. my brother went there and he’s a very respected Neurologist down in Houston. (and he did his premed at John’s Hopkins)

Mal: [after knocking his dueling opponent to the ground] Sure, it would be humiliating having to lie there while a better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy is the mark of a great man
[gives a quick stab to the guy]
Mal: guess I'm just a good man
[stabs him again]
Mal: well, I'm all right

Mal: Well look at this. 'Pears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?
Zoë: Big damn heroes, sir.
Mal: Ain't we just.

by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

But does he have a gigantic 17-line sig?

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you have a problem with

firefly quotes? hmmm?

at least I don’t quote myself….

Mal: [after knocking his dueling opponent to the ground] Sure, it would be humiliating having to lie there while a better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy is the mark of a great man
[gives a quick stab to the guy]
Mal: guess I'm just a good man
[stabs him again]
Mal: well, I'm all right

Mal: Well look at this. 'Pears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?
Zoë: Big damn heroes, sir.
Mal: Ain't we just.

by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

boom

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one has a problem with Firefly quotes. (Though I do wish you'd gone a more Jayne-y route...)

It’s fucking obnoxiously long, was the point.

Especially when shit starts getting shoved off to the side.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

The problem -

They are pointless as is, because we’ve already read them. They are pointless and annoying as hell.

Change your sig everyday to have a new quote or something. It’s called etiquette.

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

mea culpa

A las, you are correct. its not very nice to have a 17 line sig, even if they are my two favorite firefly quotes. so I’m just going to have to figure out how to easily change my sig for a new firefly quote each day. And then no one has to be killed “just like that”.

Actually, I’ll probably not limit it to firefly. throw in some monty “SPAM” python quotes, some Eddie Murphy quotes, some random movie quotes, etc….

Wash: Little River just gets more colorful by the moment. What'll she do next?
Zoë: Either blow us all up or rub soup in our hair. It's a toss-up.
Wash: I hope she does the soup thing. It's always a hoot, and we don't all die from it.

by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

How was that talking shit?

I did research with 2 of them, even they make jokes about it.

It’s a true statement, but it’s kind of silly because there’s non-medical school institutions that have many more than this.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does that included Fightin' Texas Aggie Erle Nye, retired chairman of TXU?

And then there’s a guy, can’t think of his name offhand, who started out as an oil & gas attorney, then started his own production outfit, made a tub of money in the Barnett, and then sold out to Chesapeake or one of the other Barnett majors for a cool billion dollars.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha. Rec to Future

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

For sure

I assume you’re studying for the bar? I’m ridiculously busy until school starts, but we should do lunch. Shoot me an e-mail.

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bar starts tomorrow.

I’ve been in total sequestration in the law library basement for about four weeks now.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck.

Some of the three most stressful days of my entire life. I don’t envy you.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

Good luck buddy.

It sucks terribly, but you will get through it.

I felt good after the MPT/P&E. After the MBE, I went to Sonic to get a chery lime and then rode around on back roads outside Lubbock in a daze for a couple of hours. After the essays, I was thoroughly wiped out, but relieved. I kicked back with a cigar.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was drunk by 7:00 PM that Thursday.

I blazed through the essays, drove to my friend’s place where we had beer and champagne waiting. Most of us passed that time…

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not at all worried about the MBE.

Ran a full practice yesterday and missed 25 questions.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Without the essays bringing my overall score way up, I would have failed the Bar. I didn’t do so hot on the MBE.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holy hell that's good

I was right at the median or slightly below on the MBE.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

You'll get through it...

Just look around in the room when you get there. You’re definitely better prepared for the test than the 25% of them that will fail.

by Mike the Grate on Jul 26, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh

The people I know that failed didn’t fail because they weren’t prepared. They failed because the Bar Exam is hard.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just trying to psyche the guy up...

No downers before the bar. That was the most stressful three weeks of my life….and I over-prepared.

by Mike the Grate on Jul 26, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Busy?

My summers during law school consisted mainly of Halo and pool time when I wasn’t at work.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, well, apart from my jobs, I'm applying for clerkships and full-time jobs at a steady pace

And I move this next weekend (I don’t think I’ve fully grasped how much this is going to suck).

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is she hot?

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

Given her first name/last initial and the firm name, I could probably discover it with little trouble.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do it

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't do it.

Good friend of mine as well. We were Moot Court partners twice this year.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't think you would.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

A judge in a proceeding of this nature almost has to "grandstand about my court" to make sure everyone understands whose in charge

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who's*

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kitchen sink strategy

They’re not going to get anywhere by trying to convince Judge Lynn to change his mind unless they can show serious changed circumstances justifying a switch.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get what the hell the CRO is doing

I get what the creditors are doing but the CRO makes no fuckign sense to me. You are a hired hand who will be gone in a few seconds. The Rangers will thrive no matter who is the next owner.

You don’t need to countermand judge orders because you think one owner is better than another. You’ve alrady done your due diligence. Keep your goddamn mouth shut from now on.

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is what I don't get: Tweet from Kaplan
@muldertx The CRO’s job is to maximize the assets for the creditors, and the judge has certainly signed off on the auction. Issue is timing

That’s not right, is it? The CRO’s job is to maximize the assets – but not for the creditors. It is to maximize the assets for the bankrupt entity. The CRO doesn’t need to recognize the creditors’ rights to go after unsecured debt. I don’t get why it is just a given that the CRO, a Rangers director, is all of a sudden trying to funnel as much money to the creditors like it’s his job such that nobody understands anymore that the CRO works for the Rangers and isn’t an agent of the creditors

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

His job isn't to look out for the creditors - his duty is towards the debtor

But since this is essentially a liquidation proceeding those two issues merge into one. Since it’s in the debtor’s interest to get the most money possible it’s also in the creditors’ interests.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 26, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lynn is pissed and says "eff you creditors, I'm fixing to screw you for fun if you don't shape up"

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet

I think Lynn has finally had it with the creditors

by BuckyB on Jul 26, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good.

It’s about time. They’ve been at this shit for 9 months now. It’s time somebody puts a boot in their ass.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Jul 26, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our paper's sports editor

Hates baseball. Three years and we finally get a Rangers story… and we get this?

Meh.

by spaceblues on Jul 26, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

What a fucking douche

and his picture also screams out DOUCHE!

I even started reading his article before the douchiness of it all just overwhelmed me.

Mal: [after knocking his dueling opponent to the ground] Sure, it would be humiliating having to lie there while a better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy is the mark of a great man
[gives a quick stab to the guy]
Mal: guess I'm just a good man
[stabs him again]
Mal: well, I'm all right

Mal: Well look at this. 'Pears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?
Zoë: Big damn heroes, sir.
Mal: Ain't we just.

by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that guy's douche makes Benjihana blush.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

looks like Gordo kind of

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jul 26, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh noes

I’m a new target haha

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm just doing sex playings.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

/intrigue

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's best you don't ask questions

Just let him have his way with you and it’ll be over soon.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not again.

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

/Clayton Williams?

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Jul 26, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know who Clayton Williams is.

I posted /Bob Knight because he got in trouble a long time ago for telling Connie Chung in an interview that

“I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it.”

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clayton Williams said essentially the same thing, in comparing changes in the West Texas weather to rape

While running for Governor. It was a good ol’ boy comment made by a West Texas oilman that wouldn’t have been a big deal if it was told in a crowd of West Texas oil patch guys.

But he said it to the media in an “off the record” moment. Of course they ran with it as hard and fast as they could. And because he was in a race against a woman, it killed him.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he said something like that

it shouldn’t have mattered who he was running against.

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

He lost to Ann Richards for Texas Governor in 1990.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Jul 27, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I once threw Newt Gingrich down a well!!!

/Benjihana

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Must have been a pretty sizable well

prolly got stuck just a few feet down.

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

This guy writes a sports column?

Judging by his photo, I would have thought he was the lead singer of a third-rate Creed knockoff band…

by RCCook on Jul 26, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Threed?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 26, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Close: Knickleback.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ugh

Why do so many people think that if somebody like Cuban buys the Ranger’s then that owner is going to spending 100’s of millions of dollars making them a winner like Steinbrenner did with the Yankees? That is a management technique that is only going to work for a New York team, Boston or one of the LA teams. Most owners get rich for a reason and that reason is being financially responsible. So therefore, it seems to me most baseball clubs age going to have a budget based primarily on the amount of money the club brings in.

by casew on Jul 26, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strawman

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know how this was distorting the argument.

In the NBA, Cuban has the pesky salary cap hanging over his team so he can’t spend his $2.4 billion on anyone he pleases, but in the MLB, Cuban could take over where dearly-departed George left off. Cuban could spend like Lindsay Lohan in a liquor store after she gets out of jail.

by casew on Jul 26, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

But most people on here aren’t saying that. I think that’s a poor point/expectation.

I think that Cuban is more likely to operate at near-zero profit than other businessmen because he looks at sports teams differently. This is a projection; all you can for certain is that he’s willing to take large losses on the Mavericks.

I also think that Cuban is likely to do a better job at increasing and maintaining attendance than the Hicks-owned team.

Increased revenue combined with not needing to make a profit each year means the Rangers could eventually have a budget of one of the larger market teams, which I think is what we all want. We don’t expect to be able to compete with the Yankees.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, the "so many people" part was the part I found dubious.

Well, that and the defeatist attitude about no team outside of Boston/NY/LA/CHI being viable candidates to sustain a team w/100+mm payrolls.

DFW ain’t NY, but it’s a damn big market.

Win, and you can get enough support to be in the St. Louis/Philly/SFG/Seattle range.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I made a mistake in assuming that people would relate the "so many people" back to the article's writer.

As well as the many other people in the media who have made similar statements whether it be about the Rangers or another team.

by casew on Jul 26, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is exactly the point I am making.

I should of been more specific about “most people” because that isn’t the impression I have gotten from this forum. But I have heard it over and over again from radio analysts and other media types. Most of them aren’t even referring to the Rangers as much as to baseball teams in general. I just don’t see an owner buying a team then adding salary to such a level that it massively exceeds to budgetary constraints of the club. Maybe that is what Steinbrenner did with the Yankees when he took the player salary of 200 million, I don’t know. But I just always assumed that even then his profit from the team wasn’t negative. But maybe it was.

by casew on Jul 26, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thnk you and Adam are the only ones saying we think he'll spend that much

I think most people believe he will increase payroll eventually to around 80-90 million. The real place I want his money to work is in the draft and with J2 signings.

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said he would spend that much.

I said it irritates me that I have heard ESPN analysts and other media types say stuff like this. I don’t know how many times I heard the day that Steinbrenner passed away, “Most non-New York fans hated him but all fans would of loved to have had him as their owner”. The margin of error for spending irresponsibly favors a team like the Yankees much more than a team like the Rangers.

by casew on Jul 26, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't say you said he would spend that much

I said you and Adam are the ones talking about how we all think he’ll spend that much. If you want to say the media is who you were referring to, then that’s different. The first post made it seem like you were talking about people on this board thinking he will spend that much and that isn’t the impression I’ve gotten from the majority here.

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I should of been more specific about "many people".

I haven’t heard it on hear either, but I have heard it on the radio and in other places. Not so much about the Rangers as baseball teams in general.

by casew on Jul 26, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

This from Feliz

“I don’t even think about starting anymore,” said Feliz, whose fastball reaches 100 mph. “I’m enjoying it, doing my job as a closer. That’s my assignment, and I like it.”

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/07/25/2359781/rangers-fireballer-feliz-starting.html#ixzz0unvpDZkK

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Somebody needs to show him the difference

Between what No. 2 pitches make and what closers make.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, they really don't

If he’s happy staying here and making closer’s money while nailing down 50 saves a year, me be happy.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 26, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

My ESPN fantasy page had a statement from Daniels making it clear that they'd be re-evaluating his starter candidacy this winter

I don’t think the team is firmly convinced he’s a closer for good.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im gonna guess that Scheppers is in front of Neftali in the pecking order of who gets switched back to the rotation

If Ogando proves hes for real next season then I could see us transitioning Feliz back to the rotation in 2012 but I bet 2011 is all bullpen for Feliz

by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks to me like both Scheppers and Ogando have better (or more refined) secondary stuff.

Not to say Feliz can’t work that out, but maybe he is where he is best suited to stay.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogando just doesn't strike me as a starter

Don’t know why but even though he has good stuff and ideally you want your best pitchers as starters I think hes a reliever permanently. His secondary stuff along with his velocity can make him into a badass reliever and possibly into a closer here in the near future which would allow us to then transition Feliz back to the rotation

by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Given that the Professor of Sex thinks Feliz is ultimately a reliever yet apparently loves him some Scheppers as a starter, that debate could be even angrier than the Feliz debate

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps a sell fulfilling prophecy

but watching him close hasn’t given me a lot of confidence that he would be a top of the rotation starter in the near future. His offspeed stuff not only isn’t progressing.. it seems to have regressed.

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by DShep on Jul 26, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off day today

What will I do this evening?

Sleep. I miss sleep.

"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Jul 26, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Homework

I’ll knock it out tonight instead of waiting until sunday night when it’s due.

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

History Channel International taking a page from Dirkatron's book

I’m watching a show called “Vanishings” right now.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

AJM picking a Twitter fight with Rojas

Well done, sir.

Today is a good time to RT this @VictorRojas29 typical rangers response…it’s all about the may 16th standings :) been there, done that 17 minutes ago

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I like it when AJM directs his heat pears on someone who's not me.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's why you got off Twitter, isn't it?

You knew it was only a matter of time before Von Marriagesmasher directed his Twitter humiliation efforts at you.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish I could filter his tweets entirely.

I mean, I stopped following him about three tweets after his new job got announced (because that’s how fast he turned into AngelsSuperDouche), but I don’t even want to see his garbage tweets when someone I AM following retweets them.

"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Jul 26, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think its a shot at Victor Rojas

when he said that the Rangers fans only care about the May 16th standings and will crumble down the road.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 26, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re-tweet

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

re-tweet...I think

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

re-think... I tweet

This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.

by BigGuns on Jul 26, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are blowing my mind

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jul 26, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bazinga!

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: 72 hour bachelor

parties are never a good idea… im hurting. Being the best man sucks.

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jul 26, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

So, so wrong.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't remember that last part being a best man duty, but to each his own I guess..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 26, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I went to one this weekend as well.

Pretty tame though. Anyone ever been to Top Golf? That place is pretty fun.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah top golf is fun

we just went bar hopping and strip clubbing.. i always thought bachelor party duties were relegated to the best man?

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

As far as planning goes, they are.

I was just along for the party.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love Top Golf

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 26, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's a package you can do for groups

where everyone gets two games and it’s all you can eat and drink (wells booze) for 70 bucks

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

That would be a fun yet very, very bad idea for any group I could put together.

"...he’s subliterate and needs to have a cork on his fork to keep from hurting himself when he eats" - AJM on Ron Washington

by Anonymous New Guy on Jul 26, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm actually going there this Saturday

for the start of a bachelor party.

Can’t find this group package you speak of on their site — do you know where I can find more info (other than calling them)?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

hm, honestly no, sorry.

the best man was the one who set it all up; calling’s your best bet.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

yah thanks anyway

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jul 26, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

This makes me think there's a decent chance I know you in a non-internet manner

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jul 26, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff WooWoo thinks you're crazy

His whole life is a 72 hour bachelor party

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Jul 26, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

According to Maury on Twitter, could be 3 more months of this shit if Greenberg/Ryan don't win.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 26, 2010 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

That's actually been said a few times...

…for new bidders to finalize financing, secure MLB approval, etc. It wouldn’t really be “this shit” anymore, but would definitely delay ownership swap.

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

At this point, though I dislike Cuban, if GnR doesn't win, I want him to win and pull out a personal check and pay Selig for the team the same day as the auction

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Memo: Texas Rangers

I want to write that check.

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do too

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I take no credit for this.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saw that earlier this morning

It was posted over at Red & White Kop- probably one of the guys over there that did it. Very nice!

by RCCook on Jul 26, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know if anyone else saw it

But a rare kudos to ESPN First Take this morning for showing the greatness that is Knoxie’s bail with the skateboarding dog.

Rock on, Jim, rock on.

"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by IrishP1 on Jul 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Clipped wings

Fuck the Angels! Let’s go Boston.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

From Jayson Stark's twootings:
Twitter
jaysonst:
#Marlins & #Rangers aren’t as far along on Jorge Cantu as advertised. Fla not in sell mode but still shopping Cantu to Tex, Col & SF #trades [via Twitter]

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

I figured if they were close, it would have gotten done by now. I bet Marlins are holding out for more and Rangers just want to wait a bit

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice
keithlaw Five of the last 6 AL shortstop Gold Gloves have gone to Jeter (4) and Michael Young (1). Can we all just accept that GGs are meaningless?

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Elvis will claim his rightful spot on the throne.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

yup.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 26, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Palmiero getting when the year he barely played 1b at all didn't rid them of their meaning, I doubt this will do it.

Besides…

JUMP THROWS!!!!

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow: Advanced stats claim Andrus fielding is not so great

Had no idea. He’s well behind Alexei Ramirez and comfortably behind Scutaro, Pennington, and Gonzalez

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

and because of that and his offense being worse than last year

Elvis on pace to put up a considerably worse season this year than last.

For all the “We undervalue Elvis posts,” you would never have thought he took a step backwards

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thing is, I don't necessarily think that was based as much on his total value this year.

For me, at least, it’s based on the fact that I have no doubt he’s going to be a great fielder over three month samples far more often than he’s going to be mediocre. And coupling that with astounding plate discipline at such a young age just turns me all sorts of on.

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

His walk rate isn't so amazing anymore

and he will have to play better than he has recently to keep his OBP at .350.

He could have a second half resurgence though. Here’s hoping

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's exciting

it’s not at all historical as it was before. Some really awesome stuff would have been the 15% walk rate (coming close to guys like Henderson and Williams).

But I guess it’s still pretty good for the recent past

Here’s that fangraphs article

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully we're looking at his stats at what will be the low point of the season, as he's hopefully reached the bottom of this rather prolonged slump.

He can’t be as bad as he’s been the last 30 days or so for the rest of the season, right?

.519 july OPS?

Nah, gotta be better than that.

I see some bounce back in him.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

If he continues hitting the ball this meekly, I’m going to be worried. I’m just not betting he will.

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even in June, where he struggled, he still had a .347 OBP.

His July’s been putrider than buttshit, but I’m not worried.

Kid’s are gonna struggle from time to time, and Elvis, deification aside, is still a kid.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thing is I was told by folks like Goldstein that Elvis would be a solid player, not a star.

And I had come to accept that. He’s already to that point, though, well before what should be his prime.

Being merely average after how he started the season would be disappointing in the context of this season, but not in the context of his career.

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised by the UZR

I know what I see with my eyes, and it isn’t that he’s that far behing Alexi

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, what you see with your eyes is the talent.

I don’t think anyone doubts the defensive talent is there.

What UZR and DRS are telling you is, for whatever reason (and I’m betting it’s silly mistakes and mental lapses), despite the talent, he hasn’t made many more plays than an average shortstop would have in the same situation. Or, probably more likely, he’s off-set a lot of his incredible rangey plays with silly plays that should have been routine.

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, UZR is notoriously fickle.

Look at the massive swings some guys have.

It’s a good tool, of course, but you’re right that the threshold for attaining a meaningful sample is much larger than that for most hitting metrics.

I’m not too concerned at all about this.

Obviously I’d love to see it telling me he’s got an Ozzie Smith season going, but it’s not like I look at this and get the uncontrollable urge pull my pants down and run into traffic or anything.

I can still totally control that urge.

I swear.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually find that the least so, just because I don't buy that as being his actual talent level.

It is disappointing that the evidence is he hasn’t helped much defensively this year yet, though.

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really know how to treat these defensive stats either

but for me, I would be ok with meager offensive production with elite defense, especially if the offense is buoyed by a strong enough OBP. so his offensive struggles this season wouldn’t be a worst case scenario.

But if his defense isn’t elite and only above average, we have a problem. So far, we have a full season of elite and half season of basically average. That makes me nervous

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first players in baseball to reach a full win above replacement this year.

If then being at 1.4 in late July doesn’t paint a disturbing picture of his slump, I don’t know what will.

by philkid3 on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I have to admit to being a bit worried about his head...

Defense somewhat worse, offense worse, baserunning blunders.,…

Is he maybe having a case of the “damn I’m good” syndrome?

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 26, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's still a baby

he’ll be fine. Like Feliz, I sincerely wish every young Ranger would “struggle” to that degree.

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, his fielding #'s have really taken a hit.

uzr/150 per Fangraphs:
+13.5 in ’09
+2.2 in ’10

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm wondering how much is SSS

And how much is regression from a really high level, a la Franklin Gutierrez.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

keep in mind that

the avg baseline changes each year. He may be just as good as last year but the overall play at SS may have gotten better also.

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cantu and Profar

I posted this in the minors thread as well.

Profar I was looking over Jorge Cantu’s #‘s to see what we would be getting if he gets traded to us. It turns out he might have put up the most comparable #’s I’ve found yet for Profar. Here is his line as a 17 year old in the New York Penn League.

.260/.313/.345
281 AB | 33 R | 73 H | 17 2B | 2 3B | 1 HR | 3 SB | 4 CS | 20 BB | 59 SO |

Profar
.255/.312/.355
141 AB | 21 R | 36 H | 11 2B | 0 3B | 1 HR | 5 SB | 2 CS |12 BB | 23 SO

It appears Profar has more speed and a better approach at the plate. Cantu was a SS his first few years in the minors as well, but Profar appears to have a better chance to stick at SS.
by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Skipping Feldman this weekend in LA?

I did quite possibly the weirdest thing anyone has ever done on LSB, and all I got was this crappy signature.

by rockin_rangers on Jul 26, 2010 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

At this point that might be a good thing

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just, Rojas and Grant have been tweeting back in forth

and Grant sorta hinted at the reason Tommy got pulled so early yesterday was that he may start Friday.

I did quite possibly the weirdest thing anyone has ever done on LSB, and all I got was this crappy signature.

by rockin_rangers on Jul 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

I have been folloing them today

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't see that happeneing

Lee isnt going to go on 3 days rest and pitch Saturday. Lewis would only be on 2 days rest

Hunter and Feldman may swap days but unless they are bringing someone up to replace Feldman his spot is gong to go on Friday.

I think why Hunter got pulled so quick was we had a rested pen going into a day off today and it was a very very important game to win. The first sign of trouble for Hunter and he was gone regardless of pitch count.

by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah

I was very confused last night why that happened.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

Lee, Lewis, Wilson should go against OAK
Feldman, Hunter, Lee against LAA

by bigsteve on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good
jaysonst
  
A source who has known Derrek Lee for years says it’s “highly doubtful” he’d waive full no-trade to OK any deal at this stage. #cubs #trades

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

OT: posted this on the OT topics thread, but since this is the busiest thread, anyone else see the Doctor Who season finale?

Whew. I needed a nap after watching it and then trying to sort out all the plot twists and turns in my mind. That was complicated writing.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude Torrent next season

so you don’t have to wait. Also, I doubt you get BBC HD, and it’s available HD. I watched it. On my top 5 of shows.

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm going to have to torrent it

I DVR the daily reruns and I just can’t get enough. I’m hooked on the show. The Doctor is officially one of my all-time favorite television characters and I’ve only been watching it for about a month.

I don’t have HD at my house, but I might have to DVR it over at my parents’ just to check it out. I can’t imagine how awesome it is in HD.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most American TV carriers don't carry BBC America in HD

So you still won’t get it, even with an HD screen, unless it’s downloaded. Have you gone back and watched S1-4?

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh, I gotcha

I’m watching most of those right now on daily reruns. I’ve seen a fair number of the Rose episodes with Tennant, I’m in the middle of the Martha Jones episodes right now.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love Tennant

Great man. Like the shift though. You can definitely tell a budget increase from Season 4 to 5.

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I got attached to Tennant before I saw any Smith episodes and was unsure how I'd take to Smith, but I love them both

Two distinct, unique, and enjoyable Doctors. I love the Time Lord regeneration premise that allows for perfect explanation of changes in actors through the years.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I heard about the show and then investigated it on Wiki and then started watching

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Based on what she said at the end of the finale, what do you think is up with River Song?

I have a couple of theories.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd be fine with her making a quick disappearance

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

seconded

I don’t see anything about the Q&A here or on the Newberg forum. Usually someone at least posts some of the highlights.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 26, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: watch this if you're an AMERICAN. Vote Basil.

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvaeHllwtw&feature=youtube_gdata

"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."

by Feliz es bueno on Jul 26, 2010 2:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I just heard this on The Ticket

It’s even funnier with video.

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite p

"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."

by Feliz es bueno on Jul 26, 2010 2:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

WTF? My favorite part may be

-give guns to everyone
-if you shoot someone, HOWEVER
a. You will be murdered
B. You will then be sent to jail.

"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."

by Feliz es bueno on Jul 26, 2010 2:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

OT - Joe Saunder's reaction to the trade

tearful response

sounded like he was really hurt by this move.

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Jul 26, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

You would cry to if you got traded to the D-Bags

"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010

by boomer1 on Jul 26, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I cried a little too.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Jul 27, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

That prospect retro on Hank Blalock was depressing.

I had put it out of my mind how good he really was. He had the similar hype to what Mike Trout has gotten this year….just 3B

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

potential new bidder
During the hearing, Lynn said that Snyder had asked that the auction be postponed to Aug. 9. Snyder had said that another potential bidder has emerged in New York, but papers have not been filed and the identity was not disclosed.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/072710dnspobankruptcy.1f590e24.html

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

OMG, the Steinbrenners want to buy our team to use as an official MLB farm team for the Yankees!!!

/Speculative oerreaction

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate the CRO more than anyone in the world right now.

"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."

by Feliz es bueno on Jul 26, 2010 2:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Probably George Soros

He will buy the Rangers and get revenge on Bush by never letting him attend another game.

by casew on Jul 26, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

They will seem faster

but they will be slower

Mal: [after knocking his dueling opponent to the ground] Sure, it would be humiliating having to lie there while a better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy is the mark of a great man
[gives a quick stab to the guy]
Mal: guess I'm just a good man
[stabs him again]
Mal: well, I'm all right

Mal: Well look at this. 'Pears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?
Zoë: Big damn heroes, sir.
Mal: Ain't we just.

by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

And concessions will soar to 60% of total revenue

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

awards trifecta

What are the chances the the MVP, Cy Young, and Rookie of the Year are all Rangers?

Has any team ever had all 3 in one season?

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 26, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

right

Am I being a homer to suggest that the Rangers probably have the frontrunner in all five of those awards at the moment.

Boesch of the Tigers has a pretty strong case for ROY, but he’s starting to slump and his peripherals indicate that he is due for a pretty extended one.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 26, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carlos Santana

Francisco Liriano

Miguel Cabrera

The AL Central has it out for us man!

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Santana has been incredible

but he’s only at like 160 plate appearances.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 26, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just think that's the main competition

At each spot. The season hasn’t ended yet and the races are close enough to make guarantees/frontrunners seem pointless.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I dunno.

If he can get 6-7 more wins over the rest of the year (which would be difficult, but not impossible) to get to 14-15 wins, people might favor him as somebody who leads a team to the playoffs with a sub 3.5 ERA?

Especially if he ends up with more wins that Cliff Lee.

I’m not saying it’s likely, just that it’s certainly still possible.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jul 26, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

15 wins ='s no way you get the Cy Young.

I mean, doesn’t it?

This is still ’Murica, damn it!!!

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way Liriano wins the Cy

unless he manages to get into the top 10 in wins and ERA. especially with Sabathia and Price having a good chance to win 20. Not to mention 7 pitchers below 3.00 in ERA.

In my 10k view looking down its probably going to be either Price or Lee depending on how the rest of the year goes. Figure on 13 starts for each pitcher between now and the end of the year. To get to 20 wins Sabathia and Price need 7 wins in those 13 starts. Lee needs 11 and Liriano needs 12. Pettitte would have needed 9 but he’s now out. Lester needs 9 and is a dark horse here…..

so, lets assume that they all get 8 (except Pettitte). That gives you 21 for Sabathia and Price, 19 for Lester, 17 for Lee and 16 for Liriano. Casual voters see 20+ wins for two pitchers and take the one with the lower ERA. Some may pick Lee, but no one takes Liriano.
On the other hand, who knows what happens from here on out.

Mal: [after knocking his dueling opponent to the ground] Sure, it would be humiliating having to lie there while a better man refuses to spill your blood. Mercy is the mark of a great man
[gives a quick stab to the guy]
Mal: guess I'm just a good man
[stabs him again]
Mal: well, I'm all right

Mal: Well look at this. 'Pears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?
Zoë: Big damn heroes, sir.
Mal: Ain't we just.

by iblum on Jul 26, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, the Grink winning last year with 16 wins should've popped into my mind, but you covered why it wouldn't matter...

And that reason is called: ERA.

The Gerry Fraley’s of the world could look at Grink’s 2.16 and see obvious evidence that they could easily understand of the Grink being really, really good.

Trying to explain to the Luddite-esque MSM’ers that Liriano’s xFIP is actually slightly BETTER than the Grink’s last year would be like trying to explain long division to Big Steve.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Manager of the year

/evan

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

Sorry ab03, your post didn’t come up until I posted

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

*fists up*

Replace Jim Knox
"I love Wash." – Ryin A

by benjihana on Jul 26, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I once held George Bush down by the throat and made him autograph an 8x10 Glamour Shot of my dick!!!

/Benjihana

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jul 26, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

What would it take to get Gaby Sanchez from Florida instead of Cantu?

I’ve read a few articles that are already saying he is just holding a spot for Logan Morrison.

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Sanchez also.

But he would be expensive. He has 5 yrs of control left.

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

but if they don't believe Davis is the answer

and we have to overpay anyways because of finances, then why not go big? As long as it doesn’t include Perez, Holland, Scheppers, then it’s worth looking into.

by Tex2044 on Jul 26, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Florida

I can’t remember them ever trading a pre-arb player, they loves them cheap production. It would take one of the pentagon.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 26, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moreland now owns a 1.058 OPS for July.

"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."

by Feliz es bueno on Jul 26, 2010 3:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Moreland now owns AAA

Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!

by t ball on Jul 26, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

TR Sullivan has an article up about Washington
Guys talk about Michael Young and how you can’t tell whether he went 0-for-4 or 4-for-4 the day before," general manager Jon Daniels said. "There is an element in that in Ron. We could give him the [Class A] Bakersfield team, and he’d still be motivated to find a way to beat the Angels.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100726&content_id=12644146&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

by Zagg Parker on Jul 26, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting
“He never blinked an eye, almost to the point where the past month, when we’ve been looking for veteran players to help him, he cautioned us not to give up the farm, because that’s what got us here. That’s a big-picture view that most managers don’t have.”

by ab03 on Jul 26, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Volstad anyone?
Teams are asking the Marlins about Chris Volstad’s availability, according to Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post (Twitter link). The Marlins appear undecided about the approach they’ll take at the deadline, but they are reluctant to deal Volstad, Ricky Nolasco or Leo Nunez. The Rangers inquired on Volstad, but were turned away, according to Capozzi (Twitter link).

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

by RangerMad on Jul 26, 2010 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Yesterday's JD and KG Q&A's

Did any of you take notes from Kevin Goldstein’s and JD’s Q&A sessions? I’m doing a writeup tonight — hitting highlights (not exhaustive) — but since I took no notes, I thought I’d check to see if anyone did.

If you did and are willing to share them, will you email me at GJSneaker@sbcglobal.net? Thanks.

by Jamey Newberg on Jul 26, 2010 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Dirkatron was writing something while he was there

But once you translated the drawings of stick figures and angry words apparently it was just a story about how The Newberg convinced the front office to destroy Lil’ Lemon’s career.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 26, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw what he was drawing.

It was exactly the same thing that Jackie Treehorn draws on a pad while he is on the phone when the dude visits his house.

by FuturePants on Jul 26, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jorge Cantu

Lifetime .276 /.322 /.451…

2010: $6m

I don’t understand.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 26, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah

That’s really all the explanation that should be necessary.

Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?

by tricer on Jul 26, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no better option available?

That’s a lot of cash, setting aside the question of Cantu’s abilities.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

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