Phillies, Astros reportedly agree on Roy Oswalt deal
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2010 2:02 PM CDT
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The Phillies and Astros have supposedly agreed on a deal where Oswalt would go to Philadelphia in exchange for J.A. Happ, Anthony Gose, and Jonathan Villar, with the Astros supposedly picking up a good chunk of Oswalt's salary.
If true, this would be quite an underwhelming return for the Astros, and quite a pickup by the Phillies.
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Dang our brokeness
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
A bunch of teams that aren't broke passed as well.
by Darrell McKown on Jul 29, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
He wanted to stay in Texas.
He’s working with Maddux before in the minors and he’s worked with Nolan as well. It’s not out of the realm of possibility he could wind up here at some point.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
You mean to tell me
that we could have not made a similar deal for him? Sounds like Philly gave up next to nothing and got Houston to pick up the cash! Am I missing something? Are there top -tier prospects involved?
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
fuck Tom Hicks
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jul 29, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Understated
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Ed Wade doesn't count
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 29, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
That’s like a kid with an IQ of 75 taking advantage of one with an IQ of 50- there’s no pride in that.
Him, Moore, the DBacks GM, and the Pirates GM should start a club.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I dunno, I didn't think so either but he allegedly asked for Feliz as a return for Hanrahan
That’s pretty idiotic.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
at least he asked for Feliz
Wade probably would have asked for Nippert.
by elvis1isking on Jul 29, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Or Denny Peralta
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
We can make this thing intersport
and David Khan will rule over them all.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
With a bag of balls
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Well you're dumb
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I'm not sure of that either
I’d rather take the sure bet with Oswalt. Oswalt is also signed through 2011 and has the option for 2012 (which will be easily worth it if he pitches at the level he is now). Oswalt ALSO helps the club a lot right now.
I’d do that deal over the Cliff Lee deal in a heartbeat and I love Cliff Lee.
Cliff Lee
is a lot better than Roy Oswalt
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Cliff Lee > Roy Oswalt > Haren
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I'd put Haren over Oswalt, personally
Maybe this year Oswalt is better (although, I don’t think so), but Haren is better in the long-run.
More like
Lee>>>Haren>Oswalt
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I gave Oswalt the edge cause of post season experience.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
That'd dumb
if he isn’t the pitcher he was back in the day, it’s like giving Guerrero the greenlight because he was at one time a 40 steals guy.
Also Wash, please stop giving Vlad the green light. Thx.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Found the problem...
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by bking on Jul 29, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe, if Haren starts pitching like he cares again
Oswalt is having a resurgent year with the Ks, but I also don’t see that continuing into next year.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Obviously
But the give for Cliff was significantly greater than what this would be for Oswalt and you get Lee for less time.
Lee
I’m not sure if I don’t take 2 draft picks in a deep, deep draft over 1 more year of Roy Oswalt at this point
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
We can maybe have our cake and eat it too.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Get me Bubba Starling
Seriously though, is there any chance that we will have too many draft picks, so we won’t be able to go over slot for the really talented players?
Ooooo, no way
Lee >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oswalt and Smoak ~ Holland.
And with the many more years of control we have with Holland, you better be VERY sure that Oswalt outperforms him this year to make that deal worth it.
Also, it's not like Oswalt's option
Is something the Rangers would automatically accept. It’s a lot of money, and if we’re going to pay $12M (or w/e) for Oswalt, I’d much rather go for 20 for Lee.
More like 6 or 7
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I think
in a world where Matt Holliday can get 7, someone will give Cliff 7.
I hope it’s the Mets and they finish just outside the top 15
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
With a NTC
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I think he gets that with incentives.
He’s going to be 32 this offseason. So he will be 36/37, not saying he still won’t be effective and great, but that’s a steep steep deal.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
The thing about him being older in his contract is
He has great control so he will be successful at an older age. Its not like he counts on throwing 95 to get hitters out
No
more like Harrison, Paisano and Guillermo Pimentel.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Eh
not really. Happ is about 3 years older than Harrison and has consistently put up pretty mediocre #s in the minors. He’s Harrison with a hot streak.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
It is hard to truly judge Happ
He hasn’t been very healthy in the major leagues. When he has been, he’s been very successful. Happ’s ML numbers are a lot greater than Harry’s.
Meh
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/compare.asp
Not really
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
His FB
is 89.6. He doesn’t have TORP potential
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Minor leaguers
can have high K rates without actually having good stuff. I’d take the 3 years in age and the 92-95 FB than JA Happ
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
The money
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Uncertaincy of ownership
I don’t think they can commit to his salary next year without an owner to sign off on it.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Not all of it right?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Everyone hangs their hat on his '09, which was flukey as hell
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Gagreed
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
He's like Tommy Hunter
except not awesome because he walks a good # of folks in the bad league.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I Dunno...
I never thought Happ was as highly regarded as Holland. Maybe if you replace Holland with Hunter that’s close to a comparable package.
by Topgun22 on Jul 29, 2010 2:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate to lose Holland
just in case Lee ends up leaving. I will part with Scooter though!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Again, I know Moore catches a lot of hell in KC
but the real toss up for worst FO in baseball goes to the battle between HOU and ARZ.
Hell, at least ARZ got LAAA to take Haren’s salary. WTF is Wade doing in HOU?
Is this package less or more
Than the angels gave up to get haren??
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Jul 29, 2010 2:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
11 mil I believe
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Really?
So Astros are paying for next year’s contract, too? Oswalt isn’t owed $11M for the rest of this season.
I think that's correct.
If I understood correctly.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
not so sure it's more
there’s a good chance Happ = Saunders and neither is that great.
At least ARZ doesn’t have to pay any of Haren’s salary.
by elvis1isking on Jul 29, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Less
because Corbin and Skagg are good prospects and I don’t think anyone in this package except maybe Villar is.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
These guys are as raw as a 16 year old in high school
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 29, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
The guys the Angels gave up
were young and pretty polished with decent upside. The guys the astros got sucked and will probably continue to suck
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Like the Astros themselves
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
If they haven't already
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 29, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Pence he's gritty
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Scrappy?
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Jul 29, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup Scrappy McGrit
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
He's also from Arlington I heard
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
And is friends with Michael Young
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
i thought that was Reggie Willits?
or is he Gritty McScrappy?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Two different people
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Question for the Forum
How much better or worse did you expect the Phillies to be than the Braves going forward?
I figured the Phillies will not catch the Braves for the division.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I hope the Braves make it
I’d rather not go up against Halladay and Oswalt for up to 5 games in the World Series.
Boy do we need this game tonite.
Tough weekend series vs the Fucking angels Santana Haren and Weaver
I don't fucking understand this
It’s more illogical than the Haren deal. According to Rosenthal, the Phils aren’t exercising Oswalt’s option right now. Did the Astros just pay Philly to take Oswalt off their hands?
by LiamP on Jul 29, 2010 2:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Ugh...
Needless to say… if the team weren’t screwed by Hicks and were living up to its promise to increase payroll when it’d really make a difference….
We could have Lee Oswalt and Haren while (hypothetically) keeping Perez and Scheppers.
Wow... So let's say hypothetically
We give up Feldman, Erlins, and a couple fillers for Haren, and then Harrison/Holland/ or Hunter and maybe Beltre or Font plus nobodies for Oswalt? Then we roll out with Lee/Haren/Oswalt/Lewis/Wilson… Wow. And all but Lee would definitely be back next year.
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Jul 29, 2010 3:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
2B Market
jonmorosi
With Kinsler on DL because of left groin strain, #Rangers now involved in 2B market, source says. #Dallas #MLB #Texas
Replace Jim Knox
x
jonmorosi
Remember: #Rangers have shown interest in Cristian Guzman over past few weeks. #Nationals #MLB #DC #Nats
Lol
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At the end of the day.... Nolan Ryan will be the next control owner of the Texas Rangers Baseball Club.
by bigoil on Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
by Brian Thomas on Jul 29, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
you should rethink
your player evaluation techniques.
by elvis1isking on Jul 29, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha ha
You’re killing it dude, killing it.
You are big. I am little.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
At the end of the day.... Nolan Ryan will be the next control owner of the Texas Rangers Baseball Club.
by bigoil on Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
by Brian Thomas on Jul 29, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I got a foul off one he hit in the dugout that someone rolled on top to the row I was sitting in.
So he’s obviously awesome.
by brettgardner on Jul 29, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking at Fangraphs
the Mo Vaughn vs Prince Fielder is pretty accurate.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Does Captcha ever crack you up?
reamers She
10 seconds ago…
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
It's Time
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Marlins...
need to keep Ugla for their payroll to be high enough to keep MLB off their asses.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I hope Oswalt will eventually pitch for a team that I don't hate
I can’t stand the Astros, and his work against the Cardinals in the 2004 and 2005 NLCS make it so I could never root for him. He was money, though. And now he’s in Philly. Phuck Philly.
"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa
Quote from MLBTradeRumors article about the trade
Astros owner Drayton McLane dealt directly with Phillies president David Montgomery to complete the complicated trade
This seems… strange.
"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM
probably just settled the money
I would assume Wade and Amaro worked out the players going back to HOU.
by elvis1isking on Jul 29, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
so, if we had Hicks circa 2000-2007
right now, we’d have Lee, Oswalt, and Haren. Sound about right?
USA
probably not
because he didn’t funnel money into the prospect acquisition and development side of operations.
by elvis1isking on Jul 29, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Hicks didn't funnel money
to the prospect acquisition and development side.
Our drafts were meh, Our footprint in LA was non-existent. Our farm system suffered for it.
So… we wouldn’t have had the prospects to get all 3 of those guys.
by elvis1isking on Jul 29, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
no. that's because hart and melvin were drafting...
since JD took over, with hicks, put a lot of money into the draft and LA.
shit…even with the other guys Hicks money-whipped drafted guys all the time…
USA
JD took over in 2006
and he didn’t really convince Hicks to turn to a ground up development process until 2007. Melvin tried, and was fired (at least partly for this).
Scouting budgets were increased in 2007, which led to more and better knowledge being available for players which led to better players being drafted.
We had practically zero footprint in LA until ground up was initiated. More scouts were hired and better players were found and signed. We built a complex (maybe two now?) there as well.
You’re point as to what could be possible if we could spend on the ML payroll now what we spent up until 2007 has merit, but to say we could have done the moves with Hicks circa 2000 – 2007 is false because the organization was in no shape to be able to make these moves.
The next owner needs to be able to increase revenue and then properly allocate that revenue across the various business units. Hicks never figured this out, and it’s one of several reasons I can’t understand why people think he was a good owner here.
by elvis1isking on Jul 29, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm.. done deal?
#Marlins’ return for Cantu will be Double A RHP Evan Reed & Double A RHP Omar Poveda, who is on DL recovering from TJ surgery. #Rangers #MLB
via rosenthal./
Was just about to post it..
Sounds like a done deal
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
Rotoworld_BB J. Cantu -1B-FLA: Rangers, Marlins agree to players for Cantu http://tinyurl.com/ct2x5p
Thumbs up if true.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Guess it ain't done...
JeffFletcherAOL Jorge Cantu is standing in the on-deck circle for the #marlins right now
I hope he breaks a leg
Sad news.
Me and matthewbschultz74 have always tossed around Omar Poveda as “Random AA-ish Player Thrown Into Any Possible Trade” for the past two years. We need a new one of those.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Who is...
matthewbschultz74???
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
DAMN YOU.
MATCH YOUR SCREEN NAME WITH YOUR CUSTOM-MADE JERSEY.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I was born in 83...
74 was my high school number….
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
that's some goooooood shit, right there
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
The similarity between Oswalt and Colbyashi
this season is remarkable. The disappointment we may have that we didn’t get Oswalt is buffered by the fact that we already have a pitcher that is performing like him.
Good stuff...
Borbon batting 2nd again?
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Marlins pikcing up most of the coin in Cantu deal
Via Bob Nightengale of USA Today
The Marlins have informed the Rangers they are willing to pay most, if not all, of the remainder of Jorge Cantu’s contract.
While you're around
What is the point of Arod bringing up objections to the pre packaged plan? The Rangers have to pay them. All future contracts with players would be ruined. No one would take deferred money again.
Here is his article about that
And here is part of it.
In doing so, A-Rod is, more or less, doing his own bit of "double lawyering" as the committee for all the unsecured creditors have filed objection to the plan based upon written guarentees. That would cover the likes of other Rangers players such as Kevin Millwood, Michael Young, Vicente Padilla, Mickey Tettleton, and Mark McLemore, but lalso businesses such as Tickets.com, Rawlings, New Era Caps, and hundreds more.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds very anti-Marlin
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Wait.. so if we deal for Cantu..
we’re going to have 3 (4 if you count Arias) potential 1B on the 25?
Yeah...why bring up Moreland if you're trading for Cantu?
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 29, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe there is another trade
Maybe Davis is going somewhere. Maybe they weren’t as confident in getting Cantu when they brough Moreland up. I don’t know.
I bet he won't be for long
his last memory as a Marlin will be scoring a run.. how romantic
by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 29, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's from Ken Rosenthal...
…it’s not done yet.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
And the all the people said....
….“meh.”
"Mic check, hahahaha. I be the anti-myth rhythm rock shocka!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like we then immediately reaquired Reed
aandro Report: Rangers acquire Reed for two minor-leaguers http://bit.ly/9p92ed
I saw that.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
the JW logic fails
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
There's a no-hitter going on
they don’t want to ruin the mojo
by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 29, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Astros got Brett Wallace from Toronto
Already giving up Gose
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
We'll give them Arias for free.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Leave it to the Astros to pick the guy with the tarnished prospect star
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I like that move.
Wallace is a buy-low, but he was once a premier prospect.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Well Cantu isnt great....
He is an improvement over Davis. I wonder now if they keep Moreland up and see what he has/
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
I bet they roll with a Moreland/Cantu platoon for a while.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
Not sure Cantu should platoon
Yeah, he isn’t all that special a hitter, but he seems pretty damn “L/R split neutral” for his career and for this year.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
So now every non-LSB Ranger fan will be able to...
bitch about the defense at 1st base not being as good without Davis.
agreed...
If he helps get Arias off the roster
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Now you're just being ridiculous
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
which is greater?
chances of us signing lee?
or
chances of arias being off the roster come playoff time?
So your saying there is a CHANCE?!?!?!?!?!?!
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Arias
is the glue that holds the team together.
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Spider silk - stronger than steel
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Which is greater?
chances of us signing lee?
or
chances of arias being off the roster come playoff time?
The former
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
When do playoff tickets usually go on sale anyways?
I bought last year but already forgot. Around September 1st?
No not really
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
What a softball team that is going to be.
Maybe they could get Ruben Mateo as well.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
And Jason Botts
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
That name shouldn't be brought up
Him and Jovanny Cedeno (sp?). First prospects that ever broke my heart. I was so sure Mateo was going to be great. Even when he was struggling, it seemed like the hits he did get were for extra bases.
Marlin broadcast just jinxed Anibal Sanchez
they put a graphic up saying he is perfect through four innings
by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 29, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
Cantu with an error to mess up the perfect game
no-hitter still intact
by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 29, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
His mind was on all the glory
he’s about to step into in Arlington.
"Mic check, hahahaha. I be the anti-myth rhythm rock shocka!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If you are a dude and your name is Anibal
You were born with a jinx
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
no-hitter gone
I knew the Marlins broadcast was trying to screw this up
by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 29, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing about Cantu being taken out of the lineup....
as of yet
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions
Arias at 2nd tonight.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 29, 2010 3:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Via twitter
"@ThatSportsGirl: Mitch moreland in at 1st for rangers. Arias at 2nd today v a’s. #fb"
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 29, 2010 3:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If at the start of the season....
our July 29th had Arias at 2nd and Moreland at 1st….
how would you think our season turned out?
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, see ya later!
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
No joke...
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
7th in WAR on the year at 4.6
ahead of longoria, cabrera, and zimmerman
This, the same guy who took 4 years off from baseball after being released by Texas?
What happened…….
yes same guy
he has 32 doubles, 18 steals, and 10 homers and plays excellent D
I remember seeing that guy's name on the SF roster early on and laughing about how desperate they must be for warm bodies in SF if they're getting ex Rangers AAA castoffs on the ML roster
I think he proved me wrong.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I never imagined a day would come...
when another team would actually ask and successfully achieve in getting the Marlins to cover the salary of a traded player.
JD, he is good
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
He do what he do
"Mic check, hahahaha. I be the anti-myth rhythm rock shocka!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Cantu due up after the commercials
lets see what happens..
by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 29, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
Still "done" deal
Joelsherman1
Though Cantu is still on field, he is being traded to #Rangers, #Marlins paying $600,000 of $2.1M left on his contract
Replace Jim Knox
he gets to bat!
maybe he will finish the game
by NellieCruzin4abruisn on Jul 29, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That is more wiggle room than I expected the team having
I guess those Cliff Lee walkup tickets did the trick!
Or they took Judge Lynn at his word and asked for the checkbook...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
So
What is Cantu’s role? He plays 2b obviously while Kinsler is out, when he gets back does Moreland go down and Cantu plays first? If Moreland shows a good bat does Davis go down and Cantu is the backup infielder along with Arias and/or Blanco
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 29, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions
I don't think he'll play much 2nd. He's awful at 2nd.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 29, 2010 4:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Last played 2nd in 2007
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 29, 2010 4:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
O
So he is a 1b/3b backup?
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 29, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
We already have two freaking utility infielders, I don't think we need another
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Im just trying to figure out what he is going to do
Why he is here
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 29, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Just 1st mainly
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 29, 2010 4:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We have to drop someone to take on Cantu, so I'm guessing CD goes down
Cantu becomes the starter.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I think...
Davis goes down
Cantu plays mostly 1B with Moreland getting some starts
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, what he said....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
And he once wore shoes
with live goldfish.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
well if Moreland does not do much....
cd may come up to back up 1B and be a defensive sub
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
He might
I more meant that he is never going to be productive here. I think eh will have a few good years for another team though.
Apparently the Yakult Swallows...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
We pay 1.5 mil. Why we gave up little
"@Joelsherman1: Though Cantu is still on field, he is being traded to #Rangers, #Marlins paying $600,000 of $2.1M left on his contract"
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 29, 2010 4:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Have players; will sell for cash
At least that is what JD will be putting on Craigslist before long. I hate Tom Hicks.
We gave up nothing for Cantu
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Ok
Did either of those two have a shot at The Show in our system?
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Agreed
But with TJ what are the chances of that?
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Did he have enough potential to be protected on the 40 this year
which I believe he would have had to be protected. That’s tough to put either of them on the 40. So we gave away two players that were going to be exposed to the rule 5 draft. Those are exactly the kind of players we should have traded.
good thinking
he would have had to be protected and we most likely wouldn’t have and would have probably lost him
I'm not mad at JD or this trade
Just know we’d have 3 more decent minor leaguers on the roster if it weren’t for Hicks. And Omar Poveda is nothing to sneeze at.
TJ surgery isn't anything to sneeze at either.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
83% chance of recovery now. Most guys do recover and heal well from TJ surgery.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/medicine/surgeries-procedures/surgery-change-baseball1.htm
See also, Diamond, Thomas.
It worked for CJ
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
That's why you have guys like Evan Reed and Omar Poveda in your system
We have more good relievers and relief prospects than we know what to do with. Reed, Lueke, etc. have very little to us except as a trade chip.
Poveda has been intriguing, but he’s injured and even if he was healthy he wouldn’t have cracked the top ten in our system.
You can’t hoard prospects and then 100% of them become All-Stars for your team. Those are the guys you trade to put a playoff team over the top to becoming a pennant contender and you never look back.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Don't mind trading them for players we need...
I just hate selling them for cash (something an owner should be providing).
While as a general theory I agree
I really don’t care too much about any of them except Beavan. I wish we still had him.
by brettgardner on Jul 29, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Cwun will be sorely missed.
Michael Main I don’t miss (don’t see him panning out).
Omar Poveda is a wild card so it doesn’t hurt quite as bad.
If we received something more than cash for these guys, it would be nice. Feels like slavery to sell a person for a bag of cash. :)
What is the 40 status of the guys we've moved..
I wonder how much the pending fortypocalypse may have played.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
i THINK SO TOO
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Poveda def. did
Though not everyone was as high on him as me..heh.
But after his latest injury..it’s a risk that’ll he even be the same so yeah…
So you'd rather keep the
chance that a TJ returner would stay near his same velocity and be a 1-2 year away guy, than shore up a bench for a potential WS run, given Poveda is one of many in the system who are 1-2 year guys.
Replace Jim Knox
what do we make of this?
Ken_Rosenthal Source: Berkman “in play,” discussions taking place. Deal far from guaranteed. Berkman, like Oswalt, has full no-trade.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
I make a trade, that's what I make
"Mic check, hahahaha. I be the anti-myth rhythm rock shocka!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Not much.
Houston would have to pick up a large chunk of his remaining salary. I’m not sure what he’s owed still. Club option for 2011 for $15M, which we wouldn’t exercise. Unsure what buy-out is. Looks like $2M? We’d have to dump prospects for the cash portion.
Replace Jim Knox
Depends on if the Angels FO has given up on the season yet
If not, I’d say they go for him.
"Mic check, hahahaha. I be the anti-myth rhythm rock shocka!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
According to the mock Elias on MLBTraderumors
He is not, but not terribly far away. If he rakes the rest of the year, he might sneak in
you know who else is O-negative?
Chris Davis
by Telegraph on Jul 29, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey oh!
"Mic check, hahahaha. I be the anti-myth rhythm rock shocka!"
by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I always thought he was type BB-negative.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
by AceJC on Jul 29, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions <