Jorge Cantu traded to Texas. Maybe.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2010 4:22 PM CDT
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PrintThere are multiple reports out there saying that Jorge Cantu has been traded by the Florida Marlins to the Texas Rangers in exchange for Evan Reed and Omar Poveda.
However, Cantu is still playing in the Marlins' game right now, and as he hasn't been pulled, it apparently isn't official.
I'm guessing the details are being finalized and the deal is consummated later tonight.
Cantu isn't anything special, a righthanded hitter who can come off the bench for the Rangers, and who could step in and play first base regularly if Chris Davis and Mitch Moreland can't do it.
Reed is a righty relief prospect who was a third round pick in 2007, and who has put himself back on the map with a soild season this year. He's someone who could be a major league reliever, potentially, but who is the type of arm the Rangers have coming out the wazoo, and thus can afford to part with.
Poveda has spent the year on the disabled list after undergoing Tommy John surgery. He's a pitchability righthander with a good changeup, but questions about whether his stuff will play at the upper levels.
Decent deal for both sides, if this does in fact go through. The Rangers got a decent role player they desperately needed, and gave up two fringier type prospects who likely didn't figure in their long-term plans.
UPDATE -- Cantu has been pulled from the Florida game.
UPDATE II -- Per Jeff Wilson, Brandon McCarthy has been recalled and put on the 60 day disabled list to make room for Cantu.
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so
do they stick with moreland and davis on the roster?
moar infielders!
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Moreland 1B/OF
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I'm assuming a roster move isn't imminent any time today, then.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Lowe to the 60-Day DL
maybe the Roach will finally die
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
They may not have officially purchased Morelands
contract yet. He might just get a nice seat to tonight’s game and then head back to OKC.
JON DANIELS HAS A CANTU ATTITUDE.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Jul 29, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 11 recs
i lol'd a little.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Heh
Yeah, I’m eagerly awaiting the first time Cantu homers, just to hear Lewin say, “Jorge Cannot? JORGE CAN-TOO! HOME RUN!” or something equally punny.
Every time I've heard his name,
I’ve thought of Can Not! / Cantu!
Seriously.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Let the pun games begin.....
Lewin is salivating right now.
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
A Roget's and a notepad on his lap as we speak...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I would be on the lookout for a left RP on the cheap
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't RP usually expensive during the summer and cheap in the winter?
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Final Marlin Cantu attitude coming...
How will it make special? Predictions?
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2010 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
Reply Fail
Final Marlin Cantu AB coming…Read ghtd36’s post and brain farted
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
all of your base belong to us...
Talk amongst yous.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I tthink...
Davis goes down and Moreland/Cantu share time at 1B over the next month….to at least get a feel for Moreland in the bigs.
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 4:27 PM CDT reply actions
I have a feeling we're not done...
Cristian Guzman would be a great utility guy
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
so the Nationals get Blanco and....?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
The Rangers aren't going to be making moves at this point...
…for a UIF.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 29, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think one more would really
compliment arias and blanco. They are great for team chemistry
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 29, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
MY GOD LET'S GO GET MIKE CAMERON.
/AJM
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
They need one that they can actually use on the field...
the others take warm up pitches while Molina is getting suited up and are used for keeping the chemistry upbeat.
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
they may need
one that can hit if kins can’t get better
by blueballlefty on Jul 29, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Can someone post the picture of Arias holding photos of JD/Wash
that was posted the other day? Or show me where it’s at on here
that was a lot of words.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I was going to guess that caught the virus
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Does this herald the end of the Arias era in Texas?
by Closure GT on Jul 29, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
We should be so lucky
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Truth, the mesozoic was very rough on the double play dinos.
"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM
by Desert Ranger on Jul 29, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
i like
the trade just b/c i like Cantu b/c hes Mexican and i’m Mexican.
by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 29, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
so was El Guapo.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
We have a plethora of infielders on the roster, no?
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
x
Lucky Day: I’ll fill you so full of lead you’ll be using your dick as a pencil
El Guapo: What do you mean?
Lucky Day: I don’t know.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Jul 29, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and prune the hedges...
of many small villages
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
My little buttercup
has the sweetest smile!
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Smile smile!
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base." - Dave Barry
by Suicide Prince on Jul 29, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, great. You killed the invisible swordsman!
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
farley, farley, farley, uh-farrr-lee!
chip chip chip chip nah-nee!!!
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
txranger7...
Do you even know what a plethora is?
Would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?
by Topgun22 on Jul 29, 2010 4:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh Si...El Guapo
You have at least a plethora
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
isn't he from Colombia?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
That's like me, liking Michael Young
because he’s an invisible Mexican and I’m also an invisible Mexican.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
yes
thats the only reason i like Young , the chicano in him
by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 29, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Half of Mexico would be invisible then.
by Black Francis on Jul 29, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
native american to be pc
Baseball ain't like football. You can't make up no trick plays. ~Yogi Berra
use to like Thai stick in the 70s
Baseball ain't like football. You can't make up no trick plays. ~Yogi Berra
Yep
I told my doctor I am Mexican for some genetic screening she wanted to do, and the ENTIRE LAB turned around and said “You’re Mexican???”
I am pale but I tan easily, and my hair is medium brown. But, my eyelashes and eyebrows are black, and I have big ol dark brown eyes.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
so tanning easily and having brown hair make you mexican?
That’s half the rangers roster no?
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 29, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha!
The pale skin and the lighter hair are what makes people think I’m not, I guess. I really don’t know why it surprises so many people, and that’s all I can think of, especially since I got married and changed my name.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
that's me! Although I'm half, it sure does tan well though...
This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.
it's not good for you anyway...
I don’t tan because I don’t want wrinkles, but if I did I get dark really really fast. It’s probably best that you can’t.
This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.
Jamey Newberg
just emailed that Galloway is reporting that Moreland is getting the start tonight. Interesting.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Yeah, that announcement came out before the Cantu talk
was finalized(?) I thought
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
My email time stamp says about 3:30
so I guess it depends on what your definition of a long time ago is.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
hmm
so then there will have to be another 40 man space cleared for Cantu. Surely they dont intend to keep Cantu, Moreland, and Davis up.
Well, since Cantu is playing right now,
I would assume that the roster moves will happen after the game tonight. Bonus – Cantu is already in California, so it is an easy flight to LA for him.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Poveda is on the 40? Or is he on the 60day DL?
space will need to be cleared on the 25-man, though.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Anti-commie
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I like Boggs, adios McCarthy
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Very interesting.
What happens to Davis now?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I'd bet he's on a bus to AAA.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
At least maybe he'd learn to walk then.
/dadjoke
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
by ghtd36 on Jul 29, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
A trip to the passport office...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Davis goes down it may be
the last time we see him in a Rangers uniform. Thats enough chances. He is strictly a great full time AAA player or a spare on someones bench.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Nobody in here can
claim that they weren’t told about Davis by moi.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Don't hurt yourself patting your own back.
Jackass.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 29, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh.
Awesome. Reveling in a Ranger’s failure. The jig is up, Angels fan.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
A's fan
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
they used to say the EXACT same thing about this guy
To me, the issue isn’t that CD will be a good ever day major-leaguer…it’s if the Rangers have the time to wait for him to develop into one. This time last year, I’d say yes. But now that we see the window open, I reluctantly say no.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Jul 29, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's great and all
But that kind of turn around is rare. And without looking up and comparing the stats, I doubt Cruz was nearly as bad Davis’ have been.
Probably.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition)
And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56 on Jul 9, 2010 9:43 PM CDT
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Bullshit...
you don’t get that ‘lucky’ in your rookie season.
There’s some serious talent there. Has it gone away forever? Perhaps, but to say he’s done for good is false.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
He wasn't stellar in 2006 or 2007
SEASON▲ TEAM G AB R H TB 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS GO/AO
2005 MIL 8 5 1 1 2 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 .200 .429 .400 .829 1.00
2006 TEX 41 130 15 29 50 3 0 6 22 7 0 32 1 0 .223 .261 .385 .645 0.74
2007 TEX 96 307 35 72 118 15 2 9 34 21 1 87 2 4 .235 .287 .384 .671 0.68
2008 TEX 31 115 19 38 70 9 1 7 26 17 2 28 3 1 .330 .421 .609 1.030 1.00
2009 TEX 128 462 75 120 242 21 1 33 76 49 6 118 20 4 .260 .332 .524 .856 0.91
2010 TEX 63 230 31 76 138 16 2 14 56 21 3 52 13 3 .330 .381 .600 .981 0.96
CAREER 367 1249 176 336 620 65 6 69 214 117 12 317 39 12 .269 .332 .496 .829 0.84
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
many players who started slow in the bigs later had good to great years
some people just take awhile to develop, i would bet if the rangers give up on CD is will be the next Adrian Gonzalez or Carlos Pena for some other team.
Baseball ain't like football. You can't make up no trick plays. ~Yogi Berra
Yep, and someone who calls himself "moi" was trumpeting Cruz's suck.
It’s the shotgun approach to negativity – be negative about everything and sometimes you hit one.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
That reminds me
I saw a guy in a Botts jersey on Wednesday night. It made me sad.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
woo!
i like this trade. i dont think he’s a world-beater or anything but we just HAVE to get some production out of 1B. .260 BA sounds like Teddy Ballgame compared to the .200 we’ve grown accustomed to.
by ludwig's mullet on Jul 29, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions
Uhh.. AJM?
You trying to say something about Cantu’s defensive with that picture?
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 29, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
from the peanut gallery
the deal is consummated later tonight
Yeah, baby!
who is the type of arm the Rangers have coming out the wazoo
sounds painful. Dirk A Tron is somehow involved, right?
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
I've read the 2nd response 5 times,
and still have no idea what it means.
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he is trying to say that
“wazoo” is somehow = ass, and it would be painful having them literally coming out your ass. And since Dirkatron is so fond of pearing people, he would be involved.
Then he went blind
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
by Rodney on Jul 29, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Must of forgotten to use the pine tar
respice adspice prospice
by FormerDriller on Jul 29, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
At least he has a clean kitchen.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Cantu's stats have declined every month sice April, maybe a change will help him
but to be honest i don’t see him being any better than Garko, and we already have him.
Baseball ain't like football. You can't make up no trick plays. ~Yogi Berra
Fucked it up.
Grant, I think. I’m feeling lazy as shit.
by brettgardner on Jul 29, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I didn’t mean for that question to sound like it was me thinking it. Saw it in DMN.
by brettgardner on Jul 29, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Cantu taken out...
that should seal it
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
hmmmm....
sounds like the “maybe” needs to be taken out of the thread title
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
so whats Cantu's contract situation look like after this year?
FA?
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According to COTS
FA is correct.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not.
He was just outside of being a type B at the AS break. I can’t imagine he has improved his stock much since then.
God, do they need some offense.
A-Gon scares you, but then…?
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
It's crazy to me
How poorly their starting pitching rates out by FIP.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 29, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
StatCorner has their wRAA at 4.0 right now.
I think it’s interesting that people will acknowledge park effects, but mostly ignore them. Or they talk about how offense in Texas and Colorado doesn’t even count, instead of looking at how much it’s inflated, while simultaneously ignoring what the pitchers are doing. Meanwhile, they crap on the San Diego offense instead of realizing that even being close to average there is awesome.
Per FanGraphs
The Padres starting pitching RAR is 47. 7, good for 4th worst in the majors.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 29, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
And away from home?
The Padres have three players — Adrian Gonzalez, Will Venable and Yorvit Torrealba — who are 100 sOPS+ (OPS for away games) or better.
And only David Eckstein and Gonzalez have been better away than at home.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
But the sOPS+ refers to the players' road OPS with regards to the league average road OPS.
That would mean that only three players on the Padres have been better-than-average hitters on the road.
I’m not arguing that playing at PETCO isn’t affecting the SD offense; of course it is. But I’m not sure it’s any better than an also-ran offense in any venue.
"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010
I didn't see the s.
Still, I’m going to go ahead and bet on them being an average to slightly above offense in a neutral home park.
Those Hairston bros.
are a regular mario and luigi
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 29, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Robinson or Miguel?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Jul 29, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was thinking robinson too
cause it’s robinson tejeda and miguel tejada.. right?
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 29, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Brett Wallace
Heh. Thought this was funny.
Tyler Kepner:
Brett Wallace is a peripheral part of every major Phillies trade. Few know this, but he was actually the sixth guy in the Von Hayes deal.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
by TheJeezus on Jul 29, 2010 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Taken collectively acquiring Molina, Lee, and Cantu is a good trio of deals
for this team at this time. I like it. It would have been better if they hadn’t had to have the other teams take on salary, but good deals under the circumstances.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Well put t ball...
under the circumstances, I’m interested to know how many other teams could have made some or any of the same acquisitions.
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
and if we're honest here, time will still have to tell on Smoak
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
And Lee is the premier trade target out there this year
really quite amazing.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee, Cantu and Molina
for Smoak, Beavan, Main, Ray, Poveda, Reed and I’m missing one…
yeah I think if I had the choice to make that trade, I’d make it.
And Max Ramirez survives again!
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 29, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
only during his turn in the clubhouse gym.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Jul 29, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can imagne more than 2 or 3 times the rest of the year...
Young wont come out….
maybe if we are resting Vlad and Young DH’s
We may just roll with the better glove Blanco…
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
JeffWilson_FWST Notes from the Rangers clubhouse http://bit.ly/alSEFd
Joaquin Arias will get the first crack at replacing second baseman Ian Kinsler in the lineup. Manager Ron Washington said that Arias and Blanco will share time there until one of them gets hot enough to warrant more playing time.
Mitch Moreland is also starting tonight in what will be his major-league debut….
Wash loves Arias so much...
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Of course he does. Who wouldn't?
Just because a little man made of play-do would be a better baseball player than Arias is no reason not to play Arias.
and I love Arias, too...and now I love Wash
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 29, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Cantu and platoon
If only MY could move back to 2nd, Cantu could play 3rd and Mooreland and Davis could platoon while IK is on the disabled list. I doubt it will happen though.
I'd rather just put Cantu at first and play whoever at second.
I can’t imagine asking MY to move up the defensive spectrum in the middle of the season would be anything short of a disaster, and Cantu is no better at third. And, of course, Davis sucks at hitting baseballs and Moreland is no guarantee to be better.
And Young at second?
That sounds like the capability of your roster would take a dramatic nose dive.
I'm sorry.
No one mentioned the awful idea of Young playing second. It never happened.
Is that better?
So what?
I guess I am just confused… Cantu is right handed 1b or bench bat, but we called up Mitch Moreland? So now we have Mitch, Davis, Cantu, Arias, and Blanco? What?
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 29, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions
yea
I guess they werent sure if they would get Cantu done.
Moreland could be a one game call up
when this is all over.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be stupid
You would waste an entire option on him for one day would be a stupid move. Most likely Davis will go down until September or late August when either he can come back when rosters expand or they can send Moreland down without burning an option
Regardless, it is a possibility
Cantu’s strength is not his defense.
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by LBBRangerFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I highly doubt its a possibility
Regardless of how bad Cantus defense is you don’t waste one of a players 3 options for one day like this. Especially with a guy like Moreland who doesn’t have a clear cut open spot the next couple years and isn’t a can’t miss type prospect.
from the looks of him
probably a 210 pound max?
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by Walter Sobchak on Jul 29, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds about right.
Lot of excitement in this thread for the big bag of suck we just acquired. Yawn.
we got a serviceable player at a position of serious weakness
for Evan Reed whom I doubt is even in our top 30 prospects and Omar Poveda. I like Poveda, but who knows how long or how good he will be after missing this entire season due to injury. He is a question mark. Neither of these players hurts our farm system.
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Cantu is no great shakes
But when your team is fucking bankrupt, can’t take on a dime in salary, and have a bag of suck at 1st, he is what you get, especially when only trading fungible prospects.
Also, even though his defense is less than stellar, he does offer emergency positional flexibility.
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So we dealt org depth carrying modest value as trade chips
For the difference between Garko and Cantu? Feels like a move for the sake of making a move.
It's just a difference of opinion.
I don’t think the kind of player (Cantu) that they’ll bring back are the type you would trade for in the offseason. They would need to be on the 40 this offseason, and I don’t think either of them would have been protected.
Fair enough.
I’m just not excited about the prospect of seeing another Beltre/Nippert start some time in September.
Cantu is no great shakes
But when your team is fucking bankrupt, can’t take on a dime in salary, and have a bag of suck at 1st, he is what you get, especially when only trading fungible prospects.
Also, even though his defense is less than stellar, he does offer emergency positional flexibility.
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like what?
1B was our biggest weakness. We have reinforcements for the bullpen and Harded/Holland about to be ready to take over the 5th starter role.
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I'll take Holland above all those
except maybe Lilly, but the Cubs would want too much. totally unnecessary to deal for a pitcher at the 5th starter spot. How many more wins would any of those pitchers you list get more than the combo of Harden/Holland/Feldman? 1? I’m more confident in our triumvent, even with Feldman and Hardens struggles.
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Probably would have had to give up more, I agree.
But the value in return obviously would have been greater.
This team has another starter...
and that sexy bitches name is Holland, Derek Holland.
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Someone is not going to be here long.
“What” is that this likely improves the first base situation at least a bit at very little cost. Oh, and it frees up a 40 spot in the future.
It's almost as if they needed to showcase Moreland for someone, and the Cantu deal just happened
to get done at the same time.
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well one has to go...
it wont be Blanco….
With Kinsler out, I doubt it is Arias.
…so it is either Moreland or Davis.
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
it won’t be breaking news if it happens.
by lost in space on Jul 29, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
But
You now have just wasted an option on Moreland? Wouldnt you rather have Cantu starting at 1b and Davis as a defensive replacement than Moreland?
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 29, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
My guess is...
They are willing to see what Moreland has over the next few weeks….
If Moreland does not work out. In September Davis is called back up to back up 1B and be the defensive sub
by death of the cool on Jul 29, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
So Davis is going to be sent down?
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 29, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Like a party at Charlie Harpers
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I can't imagine what we'd get for Murphy
(or target, for that matter)
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by Walter Sobchak on Jul 29, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
so we have to give up Beltre and O'Day (wearing a Gabbard jersey)
to make this happen?
interesting…
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by Walter Sobchak on Jul 30, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
that's what I'm thinking
I’m also curious to see Moreland up here and Davis needs to work on hitting in AAA… even though it doesn’t seem to translate either way heh. Maybe this time! ..for September or even next year.
Anyone still interested in Berkman?
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Yes rather have him than Cantu
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Whattya say we trade Davis and Moreland for Berk?
Eh? EH?
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by WildcatPhoenix on Jul 29, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya sure
Houston pays for his salary, and we give them Moreland, Erlin, and throw in.
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by FormerLSBUser on Jul 29, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Arias
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Erlin?
Yeah…..umm, no
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He was headed our way...
Until we traded Poveda….The way the Astros trade for prospects they’d have insisted on a guy coming off Tommy John that hasn’t thrown a pitch since last year.
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by matthewbschultz83 on Jul 29, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
DONE WITH THE BAR, BITCHES!
BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!
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Awesome!
I assume you passed, righto?
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