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Judge Lynn has denied the request by the Greenberg/Ryan group to have their new bid, negotiated with the CRO, approved.

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But...

are you surprised? Seems like this thing will never end.

by Excel Hearts Choi on Jul 30, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, not so much.

I just wanted to be the first all-caps freakout.

by cmkelly29 on Jul 30, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

meh

this doesn’t really change anything then does it? The August 4th deadline favored GnR from what we could tell anyway.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 30, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly

Now the other bidders know where the bar is set. They probably had a good idea before hand but this won’t hurt them.

by RWL on Jul 30, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lynn does hate the Rangers...

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 30, 2010 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Now you have a pissed off Cuban bidding

not that it should make any difference in how he bids.

by Tex2044 on Jul 30, 2010 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a feeling

Cuban is going to come out owning this team. And I’m ok with that.

my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Jul 30, 2010 2:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Me too

but I’d be lying if I said I won’t be a little sad if GnR don’t own this team.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 30, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want Cuban

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 30, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban

I’ve yet to really see a good reason to want him to buy the team other than people expecting him to spend like the angels and yankees which i dont think he will

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 30, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strawmen

I’ve yet to see someone say they expect him to spend like the Yankees.

by Tex2044 on Jul 30, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

a while back people were expecting that he'd spend money

and it was pointed out that he hasn’t exactly been a big free spender with the mavs of recent years

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 30, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

NBA free agency is so much different than MLB

Cuban has shown hes willing to take on salary if needed. Translating that to MLB and he would be fine taking on Oswalt and his salary or Fielder and his salary for next year.

by bigsteve on Jul 30, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Expecting him to spend 80-90 million is reasonable

Expecting him to keep funding the draft and J2 signings is reasonable. No one has said that they expect him to spend Yankee money. The only people saying that are the people like you telling us that we expect him to spend Yankee money. That’s creating a strawman so you have something to argue.

by Tex2044 on Jul 30, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We dont know anything about what cuban might or might not do

and it HAS been brought up before people thinking he’ll come in and be some free spender, I’m not simply makings shit up to argue I hate internet arguing because its so pointless.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 30, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

We know more about what he might or might not do

than we do about Greenberg/Ryan. I’m in favor of Greenberg/Ryan winning so our front office stays in tact, but we have no clue how they will spend. Cuban atleast has a track record, albeit in another sport of being willing to take on contracts if he believes it gives his team a chance to win. He’s not as much of a free spender now as when he first bought the Mavs. He seems to be more calculated now.

by Tex2044 on Jul 30, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the purpose of the CRO

The judge has seemingly turned down everything the dude has proposed?

"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008

by kentbenfer on Jul 30, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

He is the bizarro judge

everything is opposite for him

Toki: Clowns are, statistically, the most hated of all creatures.
Skwisgaar: Statisticallies or not, but, uh, just don'ts likes this guy.

by Dr.Rockso on Jul 30, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the judge just wants a bulletproof decision

No judge likes being overturned. Hell, it makes some timid to make hard decisions. I’ve seen judges reversed enough it seems they’re to grant a summary judgment – they would just prefer to let a jury decide things (I could be subjective on this).

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 30, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

*

Does anyone else think this will end up being the least messy way for this to all pan out? I mean, if GnR’s plan had gone through there would have been lawsuits, and appeals, right? As it is, isn’t the deck still stacked for GnR, if only slightly?

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by bdk03a on Jul 30, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah...

it is possible that they are just sending a signal to the other bidders saying “I wouldn’t bother showing up”

by JShoe on Jul 30, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to tell you,

but things got messy a long freaking time ago.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 30, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well obviously things got messy a long time ago

the point is I think this may keep things from getting messier, which would be nice

Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!

by bdk03a on Jul 30, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

collusion?

The whole Crane / Monarch thing smacks of collusion.

by JShoe on Jul 30, 2010 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...

Now Cuban’s intentions are known and he’s a little pissed off. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t own the Rangers at this point.

by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree he will probably have the highest bid.

But will he get MLB approval. That is the real question.

by RWL on Jul 30, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might be way off

but wouldn’t MLB be clamoring just to approve anyone at this point? Get this mess over with?

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Jul 30, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe MLB approval is a condition for even being allowed to bid

or at least that’s how it was supposed to be…

Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!

by bdk03a on Jul 30, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Negative

Approval to bid != approval to own

Replace Jim Knox

by benjihana on Jul 30, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I believe Cuban has already been vetted, per Bud.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 30, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok good.

I’m not entirely insane

Heavy is the head that eats the crayons...
LSB-Come for the baseball, stay for the Dirkatron raping!

by bdk03a on Jul 30, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Misread your post... yeah

Need MLB approval to bid, need owner approval once you have an agreement to own.

Replace Jim Knox

by benjihana on Jul 30, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly think so.

If only to be done with it.

Replace Jim Knox

by benjihana on Jul 30, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet another kick to the balls

Toki: Clowns are, statistically, the most hated of all creatures.
Skwisgaar: Statisticallies or not, but, uh, just don'ts likes this guy.

by Dr.Rockso on Jul 30, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

perhaps

but I’m betting that was merely a raise and not their all in

by bstair on Jul 30, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL Greatest radio interview ever!

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by texascowpunk on Jul 30, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

Unless they held back some $$$

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who comes out of this thing alive?

What do you think are the chances of each group owning the Rangers when all is said and done?

GnR – 35%
Cuban – 55%
Crane – 10%

That’s my guess… although I want GnR to get this and quick!

by bstair on Jul 30, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

However it turns out I hope that justice is done

and Hicks gets boned on his ridiculous side deals, whoever wins the bid.

by jay_84 on Jul 30, 2010 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

trophy

I am to the point that I don’t care who owns the team I just don’t want Hicks to touch the damn World Series Trophy.

by blahblahblah on Jul 30, 2010 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Speaking of trophies,

Hicks head should be hanging on a wall somewhere after all this(with his nuts stuffed in his mouth).

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Jul 30, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like he just

blew his load on someone who just gave him a BJ and all the fans are in shock.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Jul 30, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was taken last night

When he saw Arias was starting at second.

by RWL on Jul 30, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So this new bid by GnR would be the stalking horse correct?

And now new bids have to exceed this by 15 million? So basically GnR just told Crane and Cuban they have to up their offers out of the gate.

by bigsteve on Jul 30, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think so

Their bid was contingent on the auction being cancelled

by bstair on Jul 30, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, AJM

as the revised bid structured by Snyder with Greenberg/Ryan ostensibly addressed the original lender issues and filled in the reported $30 million gap the deal was hung up over, that they would continue to protest, and that the judge would hold firm on auction, suggests that the bankruptcy changed the endgame. Is that a logical take?

by poster formerly known as ncrangerman on Jul 30, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Ahhhh holy hell!

Be sure to visit Mosul's new blog at www.mosuldolfan.blogspot.com/
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman

by texascowpunk on Jul 30, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

would it not be funny....

If Cuban bought the Rangers and got a ring from them before the Mavs….

heck if he wins the auction…does he get a ring if this things gets crazy in the postseason?

by death of the cool on Jul 30, 2010 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

One question I have is whether the auction rules have changed

They were originally somewhat contingent on the Asset Purchase Agreement. Now that Greenberg’s offer has changed I presume the auction rules change as well.

I say “somewhat” contingent on the APA because other bidders can, I believe, redline that agreement with the changes they want.

If anyone else bids at the required $15MM increase over GnR’s bid I doubt GnR exceeds that (assuming the auction rules still apply). It took this long to get another $40MM in cash and $17MM isn’t chump change.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Jul 30, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

So is this new bid the stalking horse?

I asked earlier and was told no but this sounds like it is

by bigsteve on Jul 30, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe not officially

but the other bidder now know what GnR will go up to. Hopefully, Greenberg still has a wildcard left to play.

by RangerMad on Jul 30, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depressing

BizballMaury Starting to believe TX Rangers case might not be sorted out till 2011. Off-season could be interesting

by Tex2044 on Jul 30, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

that's what we said about August

back in January.

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on Jul 30, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If GnR don't come away with the team on August 4th.

I absolutely expect this to drag out into 2011.

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by TXHC on Jul 30, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

Cuban does end up owning the team, but I say no way MLB takes 3 months to approve him. They want this shit over with just as badly as we do. I also tend to think they don’t want to have to go through this whole process of lending us money throughout the offseason.

by eric03tx on Jul 30, 2010 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish the auction would be broadcasted live

I think we’ll all be wearing out our F5 keys that day.

by northtexan95 on Jul 30, 2010 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

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