Sullivan: Ryan Tatusko to Washington in Guzman deal
UPDATE -- Reports are now saying Tanner Roark is the other player.
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Dang
What’s Jamey going to do now?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
latch on to another prospect?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
I still predict yet another
“I love our general manager” from him on the next podcast from The Newberg.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Yes, praising JD at this point would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
The bar was raised by Nolan and JD did a good job (so far) of getting there.
You’ve seen a lot of praise from me towards JD this year…shit-canning Chris Davis twice in one season to OKC (and three times in 13 months)?
Good stuff, man.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I love that your go-to praise of JD involves his demoting the only person you hate more than JD
Good times.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I've praised JD for a lot of things this year, Aggie.
To date, he’s done a very good job, no question about it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Yeah, no kidding
Who could possibly praise a guy who acquired Cliff Lee and just picked up two role-players for peanuts to fill our other holes?
Nevermind Vlad, Colby and Oliver.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
And, in the face of it all, I expect more donut talk from you.
You’re gonna get a good workout in straining to hate the way this team goes about its business.
by Jamey Newberg on Jul 30, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 73 recs
Hi Jamey
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jul 30, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
How does this not have 50 recs?
It’s beyond me.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Good grief I just checked and saw it had 20
Hadnt reloaded in a few hours. Greatness.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Getting there
I was 35
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm 50.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
BriGay'd Fo Lyfe.
New Minor League Site Soon!
Need's moar recs
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
October 2005-2008 hasn't been forgotten, Jamey. We're still looking for somebody to play 1B.
At least your boy Tom Hicks did one thing right when he hired Nolan Ryan.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Let the healing begin old man.
JD’s done more with less than any GM in history. Start the applause for him, cause he’s already started it.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Aquaman had 100+ just a few nights ago, I believe
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I dunno, I looked around.
It may not have been aqua, but someone had a 100+ rec “fuck the angels” comment
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
It was in one on of the court ones,
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
That doesn't count.
It was just the first one in a post-GDT thread.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 30, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought it was a court one.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Maybe.
I’m actually looking for it, but I can’t find it for some reason.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 30, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It was a F Tom Hick, f you several times.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Here it is.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2010/7/21/1580662/ryan-testifying-on-the-impact-of#42576709
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 30, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm recing this again.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I never knew it got that high. That's funny.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 30, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It was glorious, Almanac material.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Most recced comment ever?
62 and counting.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 30, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
…you’re telling me it’s green?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Right you are
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Right you are, Kent!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 30, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Super duper!
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Lee, Molina, Cantu, Guzman, Colby, Vlad, Feliz, Andrus,
Smoak and then Moreland over Davis, etc. Right now I love the entire front office. This might be the best Rangers 25 ever, good at both run prevention and scoring, a well rounded club. A good off-season followed by a good job plugging holes and adjusting in-season, all with his wallet tied behind his back.
Love doesn’t mean you don’t see any warts, it means there is enough to love that the warts become meaningless.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
by t ball on Jul 30, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Would you be just as happy or less enthused if...
Daniels had parted with the Rangers’ top 3 prospects PLUS to land Josh Johnson? Apparently, the Rangers inquired about Johnson when acquiring Cantu.
http://mlb.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/07/rangers_inquired_about_jj.html
I might be
after I awoke from the shock of it.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
and like Jamey keeps saying...
won’t it be nice to see what JD can do when he actually HAS money to work/play with.
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
Good grief, I'm getting chills just thinking about it
“Sure Dan, we’d be happy to take on Ubaldo’s salary if you can toss in a couple of teenage Latin arms too.”
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
your bit is done
let the healing begin
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jul 30, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
^^.This.^^
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
quick, someone tell me what to think
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by DShep on Jul 30, 2010 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
It's Time.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
by Josey Wales on Jul 30, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its Tine
to stick a fork into the Angels
Sir Warwick Harrow: Whom do you represent?
Mal: Represent isn't exactly the...
Sir Warwick Harrow: Don't waste my time.
Mal: Fellow called Badger.
Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
well
this is another prospect outside our top 30.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
sure, he had a breakout year
but I don’t see him in our top 30.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I know I was impressed with what I saw from him
though i’m not so sure i’d have him top 30
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Well...
From a raw scouting stand point… With two fastballs (roughly described as a cutter and sinker) at 90-93, and a very, very good hard curveball (slurvy) at 81-83, it’s extremely easy to see him as a solid Major League reliever in the near future.
He’s a ground ball machine. He keeps the ball in the yard. If he can figure out a third pitch, he’s definitely got some starter potential.
With everyone who has been traded this year, and the guys who have lost or will be losing eligibility, I don’t think anyone can name 30 better Rangers prospects than Ryan Tatusko at the time of this trade.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Darn you, now you just challenged someone to try
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Haha... yeah.
I tend to rate more complete players as better prospects than super raw guys with really high ceilings, but I won’t argue too much with someone putting a bunch of David Perez/Carlos Melo/Richard Alvarez types on a Top 30 list.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
you don't have to dig to Melo levels to get 30 better prospects
it would be easy to name 30. go check out our midseason wrapup of prospecting
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Then name 30, and I'll tell you which ones Tatusko is better than.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
minor league scout fight?
"I definitely lead the league in weird injuries. I'm embarrassed, really. Somebody asks you why you came out and you say, 'Um, I was dizzy.' And then they ask you again and you say, 'I think I got something in my eye.' I'd much rather be run over, that's more manly." -- C Jarrod Saltalamacchia, on the pair of strange injuries (dizziness, eye irritation) that have forced him to miss time this season.
by fightnirish220 on Jul 30, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
ha, ok, just for fun
Perez, Scheppers, Profar, Beltre, Font, Erlin, Ross, Ogando, Moreland, Skole, Beltre, Sardinas, Thompson, Gutierrez, Alfaro, Kirkman, Jackson, Tullis, Velazquez, Olt, MDLS, Eppley, Strop, Phillips, Boscan, Wielan, NeRa, Buckel, Bell, Deglan, Akins, Rojas, Brigham, Alvarez, Mendonca or DiFazio could still be above him as well, as far as prospecting
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
My opinions...
Your list is remarkably heavy on the 2010 Draft. Full of guys we know almost nothing about. I will concede Skole because he’s starting to perform a bit in the NWL, but I disagree with your inclusion of Buckel, Deglan, Akins, and Olt. Jackson hasn’t even signed. They may all wind up as better prospects than Tatusko, but new players versus a guy already in AA? It’s just a little early for me on them.
From the rest of your list, I don’t think these players are better prospects than Tatusko: Medonca, DiFazio, Rojas, Boscan, Brigham, and Miguel de los Santos.
I would be really tempted to leave Tatusko above Alvarez (fastball still not impressive), Sardinas (still don’t like him anywhere near as much as Profar), and Gutierrez (attitude).
I don’t think Ogando will qualify when the season ends.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember that for a prospect, strikeout rate is important
Tatusko, 5.2 this year, 6.5 for his career, and he’s 25 pitching in AA.
MDLS’s strikeout rate is 13.8 this year, 14.6 over his career. and he’s only 21 pitching two levels below Tatusko. meaning that if he sends next year in Bakersfield, and is promoted to Frisco the year after, he’ll still be 2 years younger than Tatusko.
Ryan’s a great guy, but a lousy prospect. MDLS on the other hand, has struck out more than a third of the batters he’s faced in his 5 year professional baseball career. Oh my dear and fluffy lord…….
Sir Warwick Harrow: Whom do you represent?
Mal: Represent isn't exactly the...
Sir Warwick Harrow: Don't waste my time.
Mal: Fellow called Badger.
Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Your only argument is to compare strikeout rates?
You still have to consider command and control issues. Projection as a starter or reliever, and how close each player is to his ceiling.
If you just want to compare ceilings, then, yeah, Miggy wins in a landslide. If you want to talk about which one has more value as a prospect right now, then the answer is most definitely Tatusko.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
you have to also take into account
ceiling and potential.
if you have him above Sardinas and Gutz, which those two are just outside my top ten. You are thinking Tatusko is around that range. I just don’t see any way that he approaches that high in our system. Olt is performing just as well as Skole. Deglan is still a first rounder and has a higher upside, among the other guys I listed whom I think all have more potential.
either way, prospect lists are a matter of opinion, and that’s what makes it fun to discuss
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I think it comes down to a matter of how you weight ceiling and potential
Trip seems to value proximity to ML/expected return over the riskier, high ceiling lottery tickets that some on here love more.
I try to strike a balance in between, but pure and abject sexiness can tilt me towards the ceiling, which is why I argued Skole vehemently over Moreland.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Kind of...
There are exceptions, notably Jurick Profar, Tomas Telis (before he got hurt), Edwin Escobar (before he was traded).
I definitely like raw talent, but if there’s nothing “special” about that player, then my opinion tends to be lower.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS
I posted in the minors thread. I forgot how good Telis hit the ball last year as a 17/18 year old between AZL and Spokane. He’s struggling this year, but he’s back from TJ surgery before he was supposed to be. Can he stick at catcher once he is healthy?
I think Sardinas has a reasonable ceiling, but at this stage in his development...
I don’t think it’s appropriate to slap a “Top 15” on him. Olt is like 3-4 years older than Skole, and they play on the same team.
My dislike for Gutz as a prospect has nothing to do with his talent or skill at pitching.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly I didn't see anything in Beavan that I didn't also see in Tatusko
I’ve liked what i’ve seen from the guy
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Does the fact
that Beavan was 5 years younger than Tatusko mean anything to you?
Sir Warwick Harrow: Whom do you represent?
Mal: Represent isn't exactly the...
Sir Warwick Harrow: Don't waste my time.
Mal: Fellow called Badger.
Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Tatusko throws harder.
Tatusko has an actual Major League quality breaking ball.
Tatusko was drafted out of college, not high school.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, pretty much sums it up
He throws harder and has a nice curve.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
And walks a shit ton more dudes (roughly 4x per 9) while striking out slightly less.
And he’s four years older.
But, yah.
Definitely just as good a prospect, lol.
I hate you so fucking much, stupid Rentzington.
Where do you live, and is it easy to break into your home?
I’m just wondering…
The 40 trumps all!
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-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Age doesn't mean dick when both players no longer have physical projection.
Age is about projection. Beavan may be 4-5 years younger, but it’s not like he’s suddenly going to fill out and throw the ball in the mid-90s.
At best, you can hope a pitcher like them will develop a new pitch or have some kind of epiphany with a change up.
Beavan is definitely not as impressive as his stats. Tatusko is definitely more impressive than his stats. But, then again, what do I know? I’ve only seen like 100 IP of Beavan, and 50 IP of Tatusko.
**Queefs**
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL, are you fucking serious?
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Aug 1, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw him throw last week and he impressed me.
My question is who do we have left in AA to pitch?
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I'm more concerned as to Guzman's role after Kins is back...
…will he be a happy camper as a utility guy for the duration of the season?
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
He was 10/5
So he had to approve the trade. Wouldn’t make sense for him to be upset after approving the trade.
He's a veteran bat
off the bench who gets in in the 7th or 8th with spot starts
by corbsclinton on Jul 30, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
.330 .362 .422 .784
Against LHP this year…not shabby.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
For many, I would say
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I like him as a filler for Ian for a few weeks.
I love him as a utility infielder and bench bat. Cristian Guzman is so much better than I would expect from infield depth.
Righto
And if you need to sit Elvis, he is decent enough with the glove there that his bat is an upgrade over Blanco, on the whole.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
He is arguably better than Khalil Greene
and most were okay with Khalil Greene, but unfortunately not Khalil Greene
I think he's almost a lock to be better than Greene, even if his offense doesn't regress.
But that’s a very good point.
You going by fangraphs on that?
I see his updated as .286 .326 .373, really no difference than present.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I was mostly going anecdotally, but sure, I'll go by FanGraphs.
Last 3 2/3 Seasons
wRAA (Park Adjusted)
Greene
2.2
-17.8
-8.4
DNP
Guzman
7.1
6.0
-12.9
-5.9
WAR
Greene
3.0
-0.4
-0.9
DNP
Guzman
1.3
3.1
0.7
0.4
Give me Guzman.
No, no
I was just talking about Guzman’s regression to better numbers.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Then I just wasted a bunch of time.
Sorry.
Anyway, ZiPS has him falling back to a .319 wOBA, and his wOBAr at SC is .323, which is just barely below average.
Also, I would expect the ISO to go up some just from there being time for expected regression and it’s so far below what he usually puts up.
Sorry
I think his ISO could/should go up too by virtue of playing in Texas. Was the Baggydome a hitters park back then?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I don't actually know.
I could look at B-R in a minute.
Of note, StatCorner has Washington as being exactly as friendly for lefties as RBiA. Though much less so for home runs, so, yes, that might boost his ISO even beyond where it might be expected to regress to otherwise.
Arlington is friendlier for righties both in home runs and all around.
StatCorner wOBA/wOBAr
Greene
.349/.356
.280/.308
.292/.337
DNP
Guzman
.383/.339
.358/.339
.324/.319
.310/.323
Closer, but I’ll still take Guzman. The peripheral-based results are close, the actual results are less so. To say nothing of having a switch hitter off the bench. And I feel the ability to avoid outs from your pinch hitter is even more important than it is from a regular, and Guzman destroys Greene there.
I think there were expectations for Khalil to rebound offensively
and that his numbers in St. Louis were partly because of injury and partly because of his relationship troubles with baseball. Of course, Guzman can “rebound” too – he was, afterall, wOBAing north of .350 just a couple of seasons ago…
Anyway, ignore my attempt to beat a dead horse
The one single thing on that list that is the most important
is DNP.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
If that's it
and they send us money, then I guess it’s a good deal. Surely we are giving up one of our middle infielders (Arias or Blanco) unless there is more to come.
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
it's reported that we're
giving up two pitching prospects. Tatusko is one. The other is unknown. Hopefully it’s no one of significance or I’d be pissed. or even someone decent
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
already posted
/mike e
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
wonder who will be pitching tomorrow night now
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
If it's Haren,
does Feldman take an automatic jump to the bullpen?
by lost in space on Jul 30, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that his worst inning?
/DMNCommenter
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i meant for frisco
tatusko was scheduled.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Ahhh...
I should have read into that a little better
by lost in space on Jul 30, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
im going tomorrow
so i hope they dont throw some random bullpen arm on the mound
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
kind of what i was thinking
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Whoever doesn't get traded before then.
1 of Harden and Feldman will be traded though…
Although, Ron is getting to his dream team
of all utility infielders.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 3:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
please be arias please be arias
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jul 30, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
But why now?
Guzman above average in the field he can more than adequately fill Blanco’s fielding role and Arias is a better runner and hitter than Blanco
by blueballlefty on Jul 30, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
arias has to be DFA'd
you don’t mess with the pitchers right now, as your giving up pitchers, and acquiring an infielder. Blanco or Arias are done. Its got to be Arias.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Got to get rid of Arias or Blanco. Should be arias
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 3:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Blanco with everything else
just seems like a great guy to have on the bench or in the lockerroom. I could be wrong.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I think it's a NO BRAINER.
Arias should go,I don’t even understand why there is a debate of any kind whatsoever. (not yelling at you)
Blanco >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arias
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Nippert is not going to the 60
wish people would stop mentioning this.. there was hardly any reason for him to go on the 15
Maybe Tatusko will write a final diary entry for the newberg
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
He's The Newberg, he as a spidey sense that detects it
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Here's hoping Arias' spidey sense is telling him to pack..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jul 30, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hope so
Enjoyed reading his stuff… that and the tweets
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
You can still read his tweets if he's on another team
/Mike E
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
That Dallas Cowboys Grand Hyatt ad
is a mother fucker
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jul 30, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
One of the worst parts of these trades
Is the waiting to find out who got dealt.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Remember the time we heard Cliff Lee had been traded to Texas and the rumored return was Smoak, Beavan, Lueke, and Lawson and we thought the Lueke/Lawson part was a hoax?
Good times.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
The Ticket initially said it was Smoak and Holland headlining the deal.
I was sick to my stomach for like 6 minutes.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Fan made what turned out to be the accurate report
But it reeked of being made up.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
The Newberg Curse
It strikes again.
Not mediocre. Right about average
Berkman pulled out of lineup.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
Oh my.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Yanks are the front runners.
Bring it!!!!!
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
Cliff Lee says "I got this"
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Hamilton says "Yippe kaye yea, motherfucker!"
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
The Last Cowboy(?)
Or somesuch was where that line is from originally.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Die Hard
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
why did it take this long for people to know that was from Die Hard?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
by mtex on Jul 30, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont know, but I am appalled
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Ahha, imdb to the rescue
He also used that line in The Last Boy Scout
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I wish he would hurry up and get traded so we can get this over with.
I hate the waiting. This will be a long 32 hours.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Good for him
probably wasnt gonna get much of a shot to earn a SP spot here… hope he does there. Another good move shipping out some of our immense pitching depth to pick up some ML depth for the most important season in Ranger’s history.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
BTW, according to Fangraphs Guzman plays good D at second
thats good to know. Please leave now Arias… if they DFA’d him, the only team I could ever imagine picking him would be the Royals, well the stros possibly, and on that fact alone, DFAing is a good idea.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
Kinsler
Anyone think that the injury is worst than expected, and that Arias and Blanco wouldnt cut it? They needed someone that could play for an extended period of time, thats why they went and did this?
I mean 15 days with a 9 game lead should have held unless its more than that.
Who knows
…but if it’s me I don’t get too comfortable with this lead. Two weeks is a long time. I do everything I can to make sure the Rangers not only maintain it, but continue to pull ahead. Leave as little as possible to chance and all that.
by Black Francis on Jul 30, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
This season:
We’ve traded for:
Bengie Molina, Cliff Lee, Mark Lowe, Jorge Cantu, and Cristian Guzman
That’s just weird to me.
We've given up:
Chris Ray, Michael Main, Justin Smoak, Blake Beavan, Josh Lueke, Matt Lawson, Evan Reed, Omar Poveda, and (so far) Ryan Tatusko.
Jeez.
If you told me we made 4 different deals at the deadline, I would assume that at least one of Holland, Perez and Scheppers surely would be gone
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Ya
not giving up any of those 3 is a huge win imo
Mavs MoneyBall!!
Dallas Stars Examiner!!
poster formerly known as hinduplaya
And Tanner Roark
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Something not discussed: why is NeilRam going to Frisco over Ross, Boscan, Erlin, etc.?
One would think he’s not ahead of them in the prospect pecking order. Do they figure prematurely moving him between levels is less important than some of the more prized possessions?
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Tweet by Jason Cole retweeted by Adam
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
x
That suggests that Ps to Nats are from AA @LoneStarDugout Rangers promoted RHP Hamburger to Double-A Frisco. RHP Ramirez also to Frisco.
34 minutes ago via web
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Wow
Can’t explain that one. Maybe since hes been in the system longer but I would guess that Boscan, especially since hes rule 5 eligible this winter, would get the bump before NeRa
I think it may be the Lizard instead
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Thanks, I confused myself unnecessarily
Any word on why Kiker to AZ? Injury or just to figure out WTF is going on?
Also, am I now a candidate to join the Frisco roster? I think they’ve got like 4 players at this point.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
He's on the DL but going to AZ to work otu
Not sure if there’s an actual injury but some sort of move had to be made. Don’t think they could let him throw in games anymore.
Not for him, not for his teammates, not for the safety of the fans and other players
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
isn't he like 26?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
nope 23
Mavs MoneyBall!!
Dallas Stars Examiner!!
poster formerly known as hinduplaya
thought he was older.
either way, he still needs to be in AA.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
ya
But if he somehow ends up contributing in the bullpen down the line, that’s a pretty nice coup for a guy most people here wanted gone anyways haah
Mavs MoneyBall!!
Dallas Stars Examiner!!
poster formerly known as hinduplaya
Wow, me too
And he is in Frisco now.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
good call
they got Moscoso for Laird
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
And got Melo too
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
"This? Why, I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl... "
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
And Leon's getting LARGER
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.....
Sir Warwick Harrow: Whom do you represent?
Mal: Represent isn't exactly the...
Sir Warwick Harrow: Don't waste my time.
Mal: Fellow called Badger.
Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Hmm
Maybe they are making sure the next group gets as much time needed and play together as long as they can.
I mean haven’t the rooks and sophmores been playing and tearing up the minors the past couple of years?
Well, Cole has a tweet saying its the Lizard, not Neil
That makes more sense
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
What could NYY possibly have of value to land Berkman?
Montero is a mess, and what else?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
again, hurt.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
They're the Yankees, they just do what they want
Seriously though, MLBTR says the Yankees are interested in taking on salary but not giving up major prospects.
What if the Astros trade one of their few trade chips, to begin a “rebuilding” and get little more than salary relief and a middling prospect or two?
So glad I’m not an Astros fan.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Seriously?
If thats it I don’t see how anyone, other than either guys parents, could be pissed at this
JD is a machine
Shoring up the playoff bench and not trading any player with a serious future on our ML roster.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Yes
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 3:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
he really is
its awesome that he’s our GM… ok i said that… I get giddy when I think about how awesome JD is. Yea, Im a fan boy, Josey, you can make fun of me all you want in your old man grumpy way.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
are there any starting pitchers left in frisco other than perez and schlact?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I think i'm subconsciously trying to forget him
ive seen him 3 times now, 2 were horrible
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Bleier
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 4:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes
/Mike E
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Ben Snyder surely gets another start
Wonder if they move some of the Frisco boys up to help.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I meant Hickory
BAK may be more likely. HIC is stocked, but some of those guys may be nearing shutdown time.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
They are going to have to clean out the A ball teams just to help Frisco
finish up the season. Good thing for Boo they put players names on their uniforms!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
is this speculation
or do you have a link?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
FUCK ESPN
I spent most of the last two hours listening to them in the car and don’t hear anything about this until they mention as a throwaway in the SC segment “and the Rangers get Cristian Guzman from the Nations, he will start immediately.”
Is this really it? Guzman for a prospect I’ve barely heard of?
And Roark
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 3:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yea, and 2 million dollars JD crammed up the Nats ass
JD is dealing right now
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
SHOCKED!!!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Doing the math
to figure out tRA take a lot of time, thus the sacrificing of time looking over prospects
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 30, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
you must not read the minors report on the newberg newsletter
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I don't think I've ever written anything written by Newberg that wasn't posted here.
I’ve only recently started finding time to read BBTiA.
If Mark Hamburger were considered "raw"..
would he have e.coli?
by cmkelly29 on Jul 30, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Norm?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 3:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
not if properly handled and stored
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
If he had a midget sidekick...
would he be called the Hamburger Helper?
Is his ass referred to as Hamburger buns?
by cmkelly29 on Jul 30, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
if he could throw 101, would he be
a Hamburger with cheese?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jul 30, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, make it stop.
"If this video was an ice cream flavor, it'd be pralines and dick." Clark
re: Matthew Wilder-Break My Stride, 4/17/09
is his son's name, Mac?
and viciously overweight?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
oh geez...
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
If he stole bases...
would he be the Hamburglar?
"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM
by Desert Ranger on Jul 30, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: Per Jason Cole, Kiker sent to Arizona
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Kiker may be done.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 4:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
think that means AZL
not dbacks
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, sorry about that
Headed to the complex, not the Diamondbacks.
Though our complex team might be more talented than the Diamondbacks.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
that'd be kind of funny if he was just sent to the D-Backs for one dollar
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
We've got a roadtrip coming up, gotta pay for the team's per diem somehow
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
rookie league or the Diamondbacks
and is there much difference?
by elvis1isking on Jul 30, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Rookie league or fall instructs
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 4:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
how the mighty have fallen
or the mighty mouse
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
rabble, rabble
Buster_ESPN
Heard this: The Steinbrenners have given pre-approval to the acquisition of a large salary such as Lance Berkman or Adam Dunn. #trades
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
i'm depressed about this one... (Berkman)
his contract runs through 2012, correct?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Buster Olney Buster_ESPN
Heard this: The Nationals are kicking in a little over $2 million to make the Guzman happen. #trades
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
give him the exec of the year award already.
that race is ova!!!!
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
Agreed
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Come World Series time, Josey will criticize his ability to build a roster ready to defend the title next year
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jul 30, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
ridiculous
its kind of awesome how aggressive and smart we’ve been at this deadline
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
Four trades, only one of the Pentagon given up
Wowzers.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
For their purposes, young arms with a chance to contribute > Guzman
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
They have that SS who is the future for them
And I think they want Adam Kennedy to get more time at 2B
they aint winning now, might as well pick up a decent
prospect or two… these guys weren’t gonna get a shot here, but they might have a shot in the Nats orginization… they’ve put up decent enough numbers so you think they could fill in as cheap back of the rotation guys for the Nats over the next couple years. Guzman was getting them nothing by playing out his contract.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
In that case
they should have asked for prospects, not guys who happen to have gaudy stats. Sure, Roark is 10-5, but he’s 23 and strikes out 6.4 per 9…. yaw… Tatusco may be 9-2, but he’s 25 and k’s 5.2 per 9
Guzman has a heartbeat, which makes this a complete utter fleecing of the Nats. good thing Joe Wieland’s got an ERA approacthing 8. and Boscan’s 7-9, and Pimentel’s only 6-6, and Font has only one 1 game so far….. :)
Sir Warwick Harrow: Whom do you represent?
Mal: Represent isn't exactly the...
Sir Warwick Harrow: Don't waste my time.
Mal: Fellow called Badger.
Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
Now you're using Win-Loss records and ERAs ro make your case?
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he's saying the Nats got fooled by ERA and W-L records in asking for Tatusko and Roark
I don’t agree, because an ex-Rangers guy is in that FO, so he knows the players better than just looking at stats.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I think you're right to not agree, but...
I think your explanation for it is flawed.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably
I wouldn’t argue with you about it.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I didn't mean to be argumentative.
Not sure if you took it that way.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
No I didn't at all
I just meant that even though I threw out that explanation, I wasn’t convinced it was the right one, certainly not enough to defend it.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
when kinsler comes back
Who should be the 4th bench guy behind Guzman, Murphy, and Treanor?
Any chance they think about getting rid of both Blanco and Arias?
by kumizi on Jul 30, 2010 4:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I would hope for special circumstances like pinch running
that they’d keep Blanco on.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
why?
Murphy or Guzman could pinch run. Borbon could as well, let’s say if Murphy was starting.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
reread the question
Who should be the 4th bench guy behind Guzman, Murphy, and Treanor?
Murphy and Guzman would already be there, so I would assume the options are Arias or Blanco.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
Cantu wouldn't be sent down. That's a given.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
I understand the question, but there was no need to go to a 4th bench guy
just for pinch running. Moreland or Cantu would be fine as the other bench spot and you could use Murphy or Guzman to pinch run if necessary.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
From Halos Heaven:
“Not a bad move here. Covering all potential injury issues and filing up holes.
I don’t know what pitchers got sent to Nationals, but if it’s not Perez or Scheppers, it’s not that big deal. Those prospects will be replaced in a couple years. Smoak hurts, but if that’s what you have to give up to go all the way, it is worth it."
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
he wasn't saying that
as much as i hate the fucks over there, he’s saying that as long as we didn’t trade either of them throughout the entire wheeling and dealing, that the sacrifices the rangers are making are worth it in a pennant race
Rangers FTW
Uhm, pretty sure that is exactly what they were saying.
I don’t know what pitchers got sent to Nationals, but if it’s not Perez or Scheppers, it’s not that big deal.
Says to me that if the Rangers would have sent Perez or Scheppers, then it would have been a big deal. Even considering either of those two for Guzman is insane.
It’s like saying “As long as Minn. didn’t give up Mauer or Morneau for Capps, it’s not that big of a deal.” Crazy talk.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I think you're misreading it
He’s saying it’s no big deal to lose guys not named Perez or Scheppers…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I'm not making a comment, just explaining that it was misread
I wouldn’t have traded those two FWIW
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I understand that. What I'm saying is, that's kind of a given.
Now if he said “it’s no big deal to lose guys not named Profar or Beltre.” I would be ok with it.
My original funny moment with the HH comment was that Perez and Scheppers was even in the same sentence as Guzman.
Does that make more sense?
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Yeah, that's not the way your comlaint was coming across though IMO
I get it now.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Yeah, like I have that nailed down any better...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
My question is 2M cost us Main in the Giants deal, Beaven in the M deal
yet Roark and Tastuke with the Nats?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
The real question is...
is it worth it to give up Main for a cycle against the BoSox?
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by Suicide Prince on Jul 30, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If I read your question right,
you think roark and Tatsuke or more valuable than Main and Beavan?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
You read that wrong
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 30, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
thought I did. Thanks.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
just seems like the value of 2M went down
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
No one wanted Guzman
No one would have taken him off the Nats’ hands for free, given his contract.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 30, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Random: I wonder if there are any other teams with as many Latin players as the Rangers.
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
As far as homegrown or acquired at the early levels of development, we've got to be on the leading edge
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Consider me excited that we didn't "throw in" any of the young
latin position players we have. ie; Cafesito, chirino, alberto, villanueva, etc..
We don't throw them in, we get them thrown in
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Yup
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Let's see:
Caucasian: Hamilton, Kinsler, O’Day, Treanor, Feldman, Lee, Wilson, Harrison, Lewis, Mathis, Moreland, Murphy
Black: Oliver
Mixed: Face
All the rest are Latins
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
Thank you for classifying the impostors properly
/Torii Hunter
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jul 30, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol, yep, lots of 'latins' on this team
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Ruh roh, Rangers are about to get trumped in the news yet again.
Dez hurt in practice, carted off the field supposedly.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
hopefully carted off in a dust bin.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I think he's trying to screw the Rangers this year
Probably an Astros fan.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I admit to giggling
when I read this
"there's no money in triples" - CJ, 3.23.10
There might not be a Ranger's game tonight, not enough media to cover it
BFeldmanESPN RT @mortreport Dez Bryant just hurt near end of practice, needed help off field….we’re checking on it
I first thought it was somebody doing Mike E's bit and then saw it was actually him
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
So.....I"m going to the RR game tonight...
who should I be watching? Beltre I know….who else?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 4:22 PM CDT reply actions
There's no one else, they're all gone
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Just check out James Darnell for the Missions.
The way JD is dealing, he could be on the Rangers by tomorrow for a bag of balls. He’s their top ranked IFer.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Hamburger if he makes it in time
I hear he has a chance to win milb.com’s best last name contest. lol
Matt Lawson is probably their best hitter
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
He gone
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
oh.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Cliff Lee
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
you know what sucks
21 catchers in the system. you know how many of them have an OPS above .800?
2: Zach Zaneski and Vinny DiFazio, and they are both 24, and they are both in Hickory.
is that fucked up or what?
Sir Warwick Harrow: Whom do you represent?
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Sir Warwick Harrow: Don't waste my time.
Mal: Fellow called Badger.
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Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
that roster has been decimated by trades and promotions
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
guess that's okay, taking my boy, probably won't have time to really watch anyways....
sitting in that area where you get free food and drink….so I’ll probably see how many pounds of ’chos I can eat.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
there are 2 areas like that
1 has nachos and beer the other is hamburgers and soda
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Marcus Lemon
has come on strong recently, he has a chance to be an offensively-oriented utility man like those the Angels always use, or like Christian Guzman when he’s going good.
Their pen still has a couple of arms in Murphy and Beau Jones who are pretty decent and I suppose if you’re into ppl like Hamburger, give him a look-see. Mostly, it’s Martin Perez, Engel Beltre and a whole bag of meh.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Lemon: .280/.321/.370
Not really offensively oriented
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
.310/.356/.369 since the all-star break.
His slugging isn’t impressive, but a utility guy doesn’t really need a lot of power.
That said, he’s got some pop in that bat. You never know.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he's definitely overcome that early awfulness
I really hope he makes it as a slappy utility guy.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
That takes a walk once in awhile
he’ll be like Erik Aybar, complete with awful fieldingness.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Guzman's wOBAr this season: .323
Average is .325.
He is a middle infielder capable of probably giving you close to average defense.
This is what the Rangers now consider a filler.
I like this era.
I like this move a lot
Maybe they didn’t NEED to make it, but it’s very good insurance. After all the work the front office, coaching staff, and players have put in they want to make damn sure they’re in the playoffs. Good move.
by Black Francis on Jul 30, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
And better yet...
it seems like they want to make sure that they’re good in the playoffs, also.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The idea that we could have Cristian Guzman as infield depth in the post season just makes me feel so good.
If we started a season with Guzman at second, I wouldn’t consider it a strength, but as long as it wasn’t anything close to the strongest part of the team, I’d be okay.
That’s not a player who’s usually depth.
I think they needed to make it
because, let’s admit, we all have a tiny fear that Kinsler will be out quite a bit longer than 15 days. This is just smart insurance and an upgrade to the bench at the same time.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
so will the folks of Houston be upset o'er this?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 30, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they are more or less used to being dicked around by other teams.
How bleak must it be to be a Stro’s fan? Little money (at least he doesn’t want to spend much more) Very little prospects to be excited about, and an old, boring, sucky team.
They can have their 2005 season and suck it for the next 5 years.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
And don't forget, they just wasted Berkman and Oswalt and got very little for them
Should have traded them 2 years ago, but Drayton still thought they were contending.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Exactly. In the last 5 years, they kept trading away any decent prospect to pair up with Berkman and Oz
in hopes of reliving the ’05 season again. Now they are stuck with 2010. Ugh.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
They've appeared in a WS I don't feel sorry for them.
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"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
It does feel that way...
But maybe also because the Rangers are trading for like 100 guys.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably becasue we're more involved...
This has to be the busiest we’ve been in 15 years.
by lost in space on Jul 30, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
AHAHA
Corby just got some player to say “hit it & quit it”…I lol’ed.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
'twas Ogletree
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Not bad....
DanWeiner
Roy O to Phils, Berkman to the Yanks, rumor is the Astros are willing to trade Carlos Lee to Major League Eating if they’ll pay his salary.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
Not good
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 4:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Rangers are trying to dump starting pitching!!!!
"@Sullivan_Ranger: http://bit.ly/aqTm3F Rangers talking to clubs about Harden, Feldman"
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 4:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Wow, looking to dump Feldman after just extending him...wow
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
JD gets anything for either of those guys he cements the Executive of the Year?
The Rangers are trying to see if there is interest in either Scott Feldman or Rich Harden before Saturday’s trade deadline. One of them has to pitch on Saturday night against the Angels.
Teams are looking for starting pitching and Ted Lilly of the Cubs is considered the best remaining available pitcher on the market. The Rangers want to know if there are any teams interested in their pitchers and are talking with other clubs.
The Mets are one possibility. The Brewers are also looking for starting pitching. Harden is currently on the disabled list but could come off and start against the Angels on Saturday. If so, Feldman would likely move to the bullpen.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
i thought Brett Myers was the best remaining available?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
You're the only person
who is a bigger homer than TAG.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Must mean...
they think Holland is almost ready to come back.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
You would think so
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yup
Might as well get something for them rather than leave them off the playoff roster.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Yup
Might as well get something for them rather than leave them off the playoff roster.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
You can say that again...
This would help free up a 40 spot as well. Don’t we need to squeeze one out to get Guzman on the roster?
(TWSS)
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Good point
Someone like Moscoso might be nearing a DFA otherwise.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Probably, but what kind of value does he have to the team at this point?
They don’t seem to believe him to be part of the long term plans. Probably need to toss him into the next trade we make.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Agreed
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
BMac
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Not lately
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I meant DFA BMac
You see a reason not to in a roster crunch?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Do we just leave him on the 60 until winter?
With the additions of Guzman, Moreland, Cantu, and a likely addition of Scheppers, I don’t see how he could be readded anytime soon.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Players on the 60 have to be put back on the 40 after the season
They can’t stay on the 60 during the winter
He'll just be released anyway.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Yeah, I meant I figured they do it at the end of the season once Guzman and Cantu are gone
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
It seems inevitable, at this point, that he will be non-tendered this off-season.
I’m not sure if that means he can’t re-sign here afterward on a minor league deal. I want him back next year, but if a non-tender means we can’t keep him, then who knows.
Either way, I will be upset if he signs elsewhere and then gets healthy.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, forgot he was already on the 60
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
do we have
a 40 player that wouldnt be claimed
by blueballlefty on Jul 30, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Not on the 40
Would Boggs? Probably questionable.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
plus, you could skip the 5th spot here and there if necessary
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Since Cliff Lee is pitching every 5 from here on out regardless
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I will go ahead and assume an Ike Davis acquisition is imminent.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I'll join you in that assumption.
Hell, let’s throw in Davis and Salty and get F-Mart and Thole in the deal too.
by JimCrankshaft on Jul 30, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The Mets are allegedly in on Harden
What if we turn Harden and Davis or Cantu into Ike Davis?
JD negotiating with Omar Minaya has awesomeness written all over it.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Jul 30, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
there is no way they do that deal
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
You forgot the "/Mike E"
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
agreed...
And my girlfriend is a Mets fan. She’s from New York (state), so I guess I should be happy that she’s not a Yankees fan, but…
Damn, if we swindle Omar (better known as the standard Omar Minaya negotiation)…things get decidedly not as nice for me for a while.
Shit.
Found this on EBay
Texas Rangers “Antlers And Claw” T-shirt
Doesn’t appear to be the official Nike one, though
Genius. This guy will make a killing. I bet he covers 5k the next month.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
one unisex-named person spoils it for a whole city...
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jul 30, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't care if it's Rangers related.
I want to burn it and I love Josh Hamilton a little less right now.
Rangers>WSU
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
When they're winning they give me something I don't often expect from WSU.
But I think I’d probably take the Cougars doing something over the Rangers. I love the Rangers, but I have less attachment to a team thousands of miles away than I do the school I went to.
Yeah, I'm just funnin' a little.
But I put the Rangers ahead of family and friends. Not funnin’.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
ohhhh sorry, I forgot you were a Cougar
No, I don’t mean it that way, silly
Jon Hart on MLBN about Astros trading "two cornerstones of their franchise"
~“It’s about time.”
Yup, you can say that again.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Seriously
I can’t believe it’s just now getting done
by lost in space on Jul 30, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
and for what?
b-tier prospects?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Exactly. Like WTAg was saying earlier, this deal needed to be done 2-3 years ago.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I had a big argument with a bunch of Astros fans on Texags (big A&M message board) about this in 2007 or so
They bought into the whole “rebuilding admits failure and only failed franchises like the Rangers have to rebuild, we’re a winner like the Yankees” mindset.
They also claimed Troy Patton was better than any pitcher we had and Felipe Paulino was heads and shoulders above some unkown rookie leaguer named Feliz.
When I found Lone Star Ball I just quit posting about baseball on Texags.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
"When I found Lone Star Ball I just quit posting about baseball on Texags"
What you meant was
“When I found I was straight I just quit posting on Texags”
Heh, hey now
I still post a fair amount on Texags, though I restrict myself to the premium recruiting board, the entertainment board (lots of good movie/tv/music talk), and the history board.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Had to go there
Texas Alum, glad you’re over here at LSB contributing though :)
I admit sometimes we draw some of the mockery to ourselves, so I'm good natured about it
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I love history
but sports history always escapes my realm of interest somehow.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Lots of interesting stuff on that board
Several of those guys are really serious about Roman, War Between the States, and WWII history and could tell you more than you ever wanted to know.
Texas history, though, is the specialty. We’ve had many lengthy discussions reviewing books and arguing topics like “what if Santa Anna had bypassed the Alamo and headed straight for La Bahia?”
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
a bag of old pennies?
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
I hear we're trading Feldman and young to the mets. For Wright and R.A. Dickey.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
hmmmm
I heard Harden, Davis, and Beltre to Mil for Fielder
I sure hope you mean Omar and not Engel
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Is there a good clearing-house for all trade news?
I can’t find one place to go that has a comprehensive status update. Other than here, of course…but I can’t sit on LSB all day.
MLB Trade Rumors
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Harold Reynolds says Roy Oswalt is at least as good an addition for the stretch run as Cliff Lee.
I don’t get him. Ever.
Oswalt < Lee, but the Nancy League < the AL
Therefore, Oswalt doesn’t have to be as objectively good as Lee to make himself an equally good addition.
(I doubt HR thought about it that much, just making a hypothetical justification.)
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Huh?
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
I asked first, triple nickel.
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
Harold picked the Mariners
to win the western division this year. I hope he’s wrong, heh.
"Evolution happened, now get over it." Michael Shermer
JD better win Exec of the Year.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
the Rangers better win a playoff series
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
yes
but that isn’t really enough for me. what I want is a playoff series win. I don’t need a WS (want it), but I’m sick of this team having the distinction of not winning a playoff series.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Indeed...
That’s my goal. One playoff series win. I’ll take anything that comes after it as pure joy. But the Rangers playing in the ALCS would blow my mind.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft picks?
Are the Rangers likely to get a draft pick for Molina and Guzman as type B free agents?
by goodasgoldyesmaam on Jul 30, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions
One would hope we dont offer Molina arbitration
Depending on what Guzman would make in arb, I’d consider offering him as our UTIL guy.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
If Molina is Type B
I could see us offering him arbitration, hoping he doesn’t accept. I don’t think JD or Wash would be all that upset if he does accept though. If he is type A, I don’t think we’ll offer him arbitration.
Even if he does accept
so what? He’ll make 3 million or so in arb, and sadly, he’s one of the better options at C we have going into next year.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Problem is, he's almost guaranteed to accept if offered
I think there’s a 0% chance of him being offered as a Type A, unless Warsh sneaks into the front office while JD and Thad are on vacation and starts making offers.
Type B is interesting. Still think he’d accept, but maybe the team is comfortable enough with him splitting time with someone (and can handle it financially) that they’re okay with it.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I can see them offering either way
They obviously value him more than the fans do. I also worry about us ending up with too many draft picks. Is it possible that we have too many and it forces us to go around slot on all of them, instead of having a couple and being able to go over slot?
Nah, we'll have a new savior who will spend $20 million in the draft next year /optimist
Seriously though, you can’t have too many draft picks. Even if you have to go slot on those extra first/supp guys, you can still end up with guys like Olt and Deglan. Didn’t Hunter sign for slot in 07?
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Hunter
and Main were pretty much slot guys, Borbon didn’t get that much more but got a ML deal and Beavan got a bit more than slot.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Yes
Everyone thought we reached. He was projected 3rd-5th round I believe. Obviously our scouts were right about this one. Will Caroll said Hunter was really good in HS as well.
Thats what I thought
I love an abundance of supp picks because you can roll the dice on some guys who you might rate higher than other teams do, and because you’re overdrafting, you can sign them for slot and get them into the system ASAP.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
You raise a good point
We’ll see how many we end up with. I trust JD and company to do the best with them.
The Rangers will get so many supplemental
1st rounders that the round will be renamed the Jon Daniels Supplemental Round to the MLB Draft
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Has anyone counted the potential FAs yet?
Cliff will either be here or net the Rangers 2 picks.
I have to think Cantu and Molina are tough cases for arbitration offers. Guzman is probably the only guy that’s definitely going to look for a multi-year deal, but even then, offering him arbitration is risky.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
if guys like Cantu or Guzman accept, they’d be pretty solid bets to get a pay cut and supply some bench production, which would be great, as I never want to have an Arias-Blanco bench again.
So far, our potential FAs are
Cliff Lee (No Brainer)
Frankie (No Brainer)
Vlad (No Brainer)
Guzman (Maybe)
Molina (meh)
These guys are at least type B.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Well, my question is...
How many of those guys do you NOT want back? I think Frankie might be the only clear cut case of being able to offer a guy arbitration and be sure you’re getting picks instead of a player you don’t really want to pay for.
Lee and Vlad are definitely worth offering arbitration to, but I think I’d rather see them work out deals to stay here.
Molina, Guzman, and Cantu (who could jump into Type B status) are the “risks.”
I guess if Frankie, Lee, and Vlad all go, we could be having a draft pick bonanza in 2011.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
one of Frankie, Vlad and Lee will stay, most likely Vlad. The other cases, I think Molina is a pretty good arbitration case and so is Guzman.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
it depends on our ownership situation
if we don’t have the funds to sign them to what they feel they deserve then we’ll watch them go and get a crap ton of draft picks.
I hate Tom Hicks
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Guzman made a significant amount this year.
Next year, through arbitration, he can not be offered less than 80% of this season’s salary. I’m not sure what this year’s salary was for him, but I have to imagine that 80% of it is a lot to pay for a utility IF.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I maybe wrong
but I don’t think the 80% rule applies for FA arbitration cases, only arbitration-eligible players under team control
The arbitration process is the same regardless of service time.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
From article XX, section B.3. (page 72) of the current CBA
Section on Free agents, and rights of the former club
If the Player accepts the offer to arbitrate, he shall be a signed player for the next season and the parties will conduct a salary arbitration proceeding under Article VI; provided, however, that the rules concerning maximum salary reduction set forth in Article VI shall be inapplicable and the parties shall be required to exchange figures on the last day established for the exchange of salary arbitration
figures under Article VI.
I am guessing this means that the 80% rule is not used for FA arbitration cases, but I should ask an expert.
Hey AJM/Newberg/Maury/miles, are you around?
doesn't apply
found that out in the Varitek arbitration debates of long ago
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Clearly there is an exception...
but this quote doesn’t make it clear what the exception is. I’m prepared to accept my wrongness, though, if I am, indeed, wrong.
2/16 before the'09 season
Woah.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
... but i don't really want to think about next year's rotation without Lee.
I’m already addicted.
Lewis, Wilson, Hunter, Holland, and one of Lee, Feldman, Harden, Feliz, Kirkman, or an FA. There’s only one name on that “last guy list” that gets me excited.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok I wasn't sure on
the mutual option, how it is handled if he declines
by blueballlefty on Jul 30, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Rangers will almost certainly offer Molina arbitration
The front office seems to really value him.
Yeah
And with TT being a DFA candidate and Max being out of options next year is it really that bad we go into 2011 with Molina as our C?
Pretty sure that Tea still has one more year of working for "free."
You don’t non-tender a back-up catcher when he’s only going to cost you like $400k.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoops, my fault...
I mis-read that. I guess it depends on who you want to be the back-up catcher.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
If he hits under .100 for the season
Then I think you can DFA him if you resign Molina. That would leave Molina and Max in the majors and Salty in AAA as depth.
hit post too soon
And since no one will claim Tea he can be stashed in AAA as well in case multiple injuries occur
I'm not sure it's a good idea to count on Max Ramirez as a catcher or as a Texas Rangers basball player.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't either honestly
But if they feel Molina could be the primary catcher they may be ok going with Max as the backup
Also, I've got a feeling that someone would claim Teagarden.
He might be more valuable to someone in the NL than the AL.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Cantu will also be in the cusp of class B FA
if he heats up he could be a class B guy as well
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Will anyone listen to Maury on ESPN or do I have to? On now
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 5:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
looks like its all up to you
need detailed notes…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
damn
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 5:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Go down
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 5:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So, if I recall, the Rangers were #2 in BA's preseason top Minor League systems
Since then, the flurry of trades and promotion of talent to the big leagues have dented but not depleted our minor league depth by removing a multitude young pitchers of and our best young hitting prospect.
I realize this is all premature, but we’ve got 4 hours till game time. So, factoring in all the extra draft picks the Rangers look to receive, the diverted funding from the Latin American signings, the breakout seasons such as Beltre and others, or disappointing seasons such as Kiker’s, and other teams’ farms (which I’m not familiar with), where could the Ranger’s farm system be ranked next year? Top 5 still?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Thankfully, Olt, Skole, and Profar have been ok.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 5:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd say top 5
yeah. It still has great pitching depth despite all the trades and while we’re pretty short on position players, Engel Beltre and Jurickson Profar are outside shots at top 100s.
Plus, next year, I think we’ll get like 6 or 7 picks in the first 2 rounds in a draft heavy in college OFs and pitchers. That’ll boost us right quick.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I think so
We lost Beavan and Smoak to trades, Feliz and Ogando to promotion. Scheppers will still likely be eligible, Marteen will almost assuredly be the top LHP in all prospectdom (maybe a top ten overall prospect). Beltre should easily break top 100. Font might creep into that discussion. Profar, Skole, and Erlin will boost the sexiness of our top ten, and don’t forget Alfaro.
I think we’re still a top five system.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I still
wish for more hitting depth, I feel like we’re going to go pretty heavy for college hitters next draft, George Springer or bust!
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Meh.
Pitchers are never really disposable, but he was pretty disposable.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Jul 30, 2010 6:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He recently started throwing both his slider and fastball about 3 MPH harder.
He hit 94 several times in his last start (as late as the 5th inning), and his curveball has been extremely good this season.
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Maury on Espn
-Lenders (Monarch, etc.) willing to lend money to Cuban and Crane to get higher bid.
-Greenberg’s concessions are now off the table. Back to original bid.
-May not be over til 2011.
-If Cuban wins, still facing approval from MLB. He is approved to bid not for ownership.
-Lots of lawsuits after winning bid is selected.
-
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 5:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Just more shit
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 5:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Lenders (Monarch, etc.) willing to lend money to Cuban and Crane to get higher bid."
How is that not a conflict of interest?
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
"We'd like to finance our own re-payment."
by NoNameOnCard on Jul 30, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
its like getting a debt consolidation loan from the credit card company you owe money to
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Somehow, that makes more sense to me than this situation.
Hicks reportedly already tried to bargain with them on the interest rates…
they just want no part of GnR
no matter what. they’ll pay one of the other groups the excess money to have them instead. ultimately, I want Nolan and Greenberg as a part of this team for a long time. I hate that it’s come to this, and I hope this auction doesn’t leave a bitter taste in my mouth.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Their worst decision
was to allow Hicks to stay on board.
by lost in space on Jul 30, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Besides Conflict...
Besides sounding like a massive conflict of interest, how is that even useful to them? “I’m already owed X amount of $ by HSG, so I’m going to plow Y amount of $ into this ownership group!”
The only way that sounds like it makes sense is as a pure middle finger of spite to Greenberg and Ryan.
by Mister Naxal on Jul 30, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
basically the judge screwed the Rangers on this one
and screwed our offseason hopes of signing anyone of significance
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I honestly don't see how...
he ever let it get to auction. The lenders just got an offer with everything they have asked for and they judge still is going through with the auction even though MLB isn’t going to accept anyone other than Greenberg and Nolan.
I don’t get why the judge said the sale doesn’t have to go to the highest bidder only to then choose to go for an auction just because the lenders have decided to fund their own guy.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, said that it could take months for Cuban to be fully
MLB approved. No winter free agents?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 5:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ie - No Cliff Lee.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
Not Only No Cliffmas
Not only no Cliff Lee, but forget drafting anyone we can’t go over slot for since we’ll still be on MLB’s signing allowance.
by Mister Naxal on Jul 30, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope
I hope the long term moral of this story is that no shitball like Tom Hicks ever gets to own a professional sports franchise again. I hope every major league in the U.S. is looking at the cluster fuck this has become and preparing to remind owners that just because they own a team doesn’t mean they get to do whatever the fuck they want to with it, for instance using it as a poker chip in some shit shell game the house always wins.
In the short term, fuck Tom Hicks. He should not feel safe attending a Rangers ball game. And, after reading this crap, I want Angel blood now more than ever before! BRING BACK SCALPS, BOYS!
by Mister Naxal on Jul 30, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Its possible that its because it took so long
Had GnR done this at the beginning and met the CROs demands from the start then he probably would have confirmed it. But because they waited until a couple days before the auction maybe now he is willing to see it through. Ultimately its Hicks’ fault because it was he who waited until now to relent to the new deal
Isn't that
GnR’s fault? if they could make those concessions they should’ve done it when it first went to court and not waited till the last second
by blueballlefty on Jul 30, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, so let's say someone other than Green Ryan wins the auction
Will the lenders then okay that bid? If the lenders okay it, will MLB drag its feet and not approve? I find it unlikely that MLB will do that given the negative impact it would have on one of its emerging markets.
If they don't want Crane...
or Cuban, I don’t think they’ll approve it, regardless of if it drags on for another year. They’ll just take over the team.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 30, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
If they take over, will they limit the payroll to such an extend that it will handcuff the team?
What kind of an annual budget can they expect if MLB is running the team?
MLB is running this team right now
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I think anyone
including Cubes will be approved, MLB will just be happy to get this nightmare over with, I think thats why Cuban is choosing to go at it on his own so he can own a MLB team
by blueballlefty on Jul 30, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Just more reason to hate the Yankees.....
Buster Olney Buster_ESPN
Heard this: The Astros are picking up a lot of the money owed to Lance Berkman in their agreement with the Yankees, and the NYY won’t be giving up any major prospects.#trades
Piss off.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
God, the Astros are so f'n stupid
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jul 30, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I won't go as far as to say they're stupid
I’ll take the other route and say the Yankees just bullied them in to the trade, and Houston wilted like their little bitch.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
No, if you know anything about that FO you'd be more than comfortable saying they're stupid
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I guess.
It just always seems that at this time of the year, EVERY YEAR, the Yankees get who they want, when they want, and the other trading partner looks like they got the shaft end of the deal.
I have a hard time coming up with a trade that the Yankees have pulled off in the last decade that benefited the other team better than the Yanks.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
I understand
I’m pretty sure that’s why they targeted Berkman and not Dunn. Rizzo wants, you know, actual prospects and stuff. Ed Wade, on the other hand, is too bumbling and idiotic to realize what is involved in making a good trade.
The Yankees didn’t have to even try hard to fleece the Astros. Cashman probably let his 10 year-old nephew do the negotiating.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
No, don't blame the Yankees, blame the Astros for being utterly and completely incompetent
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Cantu not starting.
"@aandro: Jorge Cantu is not in starting lineup for #Rangers."
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 6:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
We traded for a guy to bench sit wonderful.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
MORE MITCH MORELAND
is a good thing
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Arias at 2nd. What the fuck?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 6:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope we DFA Ariass, cause he's a pain in my ass.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
WHY NOT?! WHY THE HELL DID WE ACQUIRE HIM IF HE'S ONLY HUMAN?!?!
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I love me some Moreland.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I, too, am looking forward to seeing
Mitch ‘the luckiest guy in that night’ Moreland play
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
he'll be providinf morale and claws
It sounds worse when you say it your way.
by dolphinpuncher on Jul 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Moreland get's playing time against the Halos? I like it.
Let’s see what he’s got. Seriously.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
This
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Yes, but why is Arias playing instead of Blanco?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 6:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Seriously? I'm probably in the bottom third of
LSB’ers as far as complaining goes. If you don’t bitch about Arias you ain’t American.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 6:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you see Arias play last night?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 6:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Troll
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Jul 30, 2010 7:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He do what he do
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
career .371 BA against the halos
by dolphinpuncher on Jul 30, 2010 6:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
BULL MOUNTAIN, DON'T GO CHANGIN'!
You, too, dolphinpuncher!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 30, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
OUT COLD REFERENCE FTW!
LSB needs the ability to mobile-recc
by dolphinpuncher on Jul 30, 2010 7:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
uploads are disabled on mobile devices
It’s on the to-do list. That picture was made for me.
by dolphinpuncher on Jul 30, 2010 8:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Stupid...
Weiland >>>>>>>> Roark.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I really hoped he didn't mean that he valued Roark over Weiland
If he did, I dunno what to say.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Source: Texas only team with ’’slight’’ interest in Mike Lowell. Deal involving Lowell considered unlikely at this point.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Why not Harden for Lowell, IIRC they are looking for pitching help
by blueballlefty on Jul 30, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be one crowded bench.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I really like this move...
and hope Arias enjoys his last game as a Ranger tonight.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
OT: Johnny Cash's version of "Cocaine Blues" performed live at San Quentin Prison never gets old
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I was listening to that album last weekend while roadtripping
:)
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I doubt we will 'til after the game tonight.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Wash flushes after a large hairy dump
Arias, while eating dinner down there, accidentally gets stuck in the vortex…and way he goes, never to be seen or heard from again.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
by Rodney on Jul 30, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Jacobs to the Blue Jays
So, who ends up with the better MLB career - Mike Jacobs or Chris Davis?
I hope he never hits it.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
by RangersSD on Jul 30, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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