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Rangers reportedly trade Saltalamacchia to Red Sox

Multiple reports say that the Rangers have traded Jarrod Saltalamacchia to the Red Sox.

More on this as it develops.

UPDATE -- Sean McAdams says it is for two minor leaguers, a player to be named later, and cash.

I thought a move with a fringe guy might happen to clear room on the 40 man roster for Cristian Guzman, but I was expecting someone like Brandon Boggs or Guillermo Moscoso, not Salty.

Boston has wanted him for a while.

UPDATE -- Evan Grant says it is RHP Roman Mendez and 1B Chris McGuinness for the minor leaguers. 

UPDATE -- Kevin Goldstein says picking up Mendez is good for Texas.

UPDATE -- Here's a write-up on Mendez at Over The Monster, the SBN BoSox blog, from September, 2009. 

UPDATE -- The cash is reportedly $350,000 going from Boston to the Rangers. 

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i think i just threw up in my mouth

we better have something good coming our way. way to sell way low on this.

Rangers FTW

by kevzta on Jul 31, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Let me elaborate

I don’t believe his value was going to come back up here. I don’t think it will in boston, but I think he has a better chance with a change of scenery

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arguing with yourself?

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bug in the

Mike E Chat 2.3 software

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by DJCahill on Aug 1, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vmart can too

wait

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

That does sound alarmingly like HH, actually.

by octoberty on Jul 31, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

goodasgoldyesman is a recent addition who seems like a possible alias

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

I don’t understand why everyone thinks every odd newcomer is HH.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because about half of them usually are

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you know, are you some sort of moderator?

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're right

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hasn't been on in a while.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

Can’t imagine we’ll get anything of note in return.

by Tony Wonder on Jul 31, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Evan_P_Grant
  
#Rangers get RHP Roman Mendez, 1B Chris McGuiness from Red Sox. Salty era in Texas officially done

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goldstein says he can bring the heat

Kevin_Goldstein Nice pickup by Texas for Salty, Mendez can bring the heat.

He’s only 20

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Classic JD trade acquisition

I will now expect this guy to blow up and become one of our sexiest prospects in the next year.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The PTBNL

is also coming right? The Sox have a lot of lower level sex bombs.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Preller is currently consulting with our man Z to find out which 17 year-old at the complex league is the sexiest

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This. Must. Happen.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Thad.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I NEED THE PROFESSOR OF SEX TO WEIGH IN!!!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
keithlaw Roman Mendez has a big arm – scout told me last week he had him 96+ prior to this year. #trades

by octoberty on Jul 31, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa, like the sound of that

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

22, in his 2nd year

15.5 % BB 17.3 SO this year in A ball 53 BB | 59 SO

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Since he’s a 2009 college pick, doesn’t make me feel so bad about his age.

Sounds like he could be nothing but still has a chance to be something.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's literally Mitch Moreland

it’s uncanny how close these guys are statistically.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

Mitch can be two places at once.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm watching a Back to the Future marathon on ABC Family.

So it makes sense.

Also, did anyone know Flea from RHCP is in these?

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I thought that was common knowledge.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for calling me out as an idiot, Ag.

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh, just razzing you

I’ve seen BTTF dozens of times, so it’s probably more common knowledge for me than anyone else.

Last time I watched #3, at the end when Marty is challenged to race Flea, I thought for a second one of the guys in the back of the pickup was Huey Lewis, but alas it was not. Dude has a Huey-esque haircut though.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've seen them tons of times I suppose, just never put him in there until today.

I’ll keep an eye on Huey-look-a-like when Number 3 comes on in about 20 mins.

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll

cut off your johnson

’cause I believe in nothing

by thedudeabides on Aug 2, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

saw something about him leading college baseball in walks last year.

Given our awful C situation I didn’t really want to get rid of Salty but this seems reasonable enough if the Rangers are moving on.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

In July?!

He’s walked 53 times in a month?

"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."

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by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 31, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Color me not shocked.

Guess this seals Benjie coming back.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, this seems like we turned a guy whose future was questionable into two guys with solid futures

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boston likes the look of Salty much better than the Rangers did.

JD made them pay. I love this deal.

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Salty blows.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

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by Drew062682 on Jul 31, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus the cash that they will pour in to the draft picks. Great deal if you ask me.

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by texascowpunk on Jul 31, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

 Evan_P_Grant
  
#Rangers have now officially announced Guzman deal as mandatory 24-hour waiting period has expired. Also Joaquin Arias to DL. Surprise! Not

by hedowhathedo on Jul 31, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

i guess we waited 24 hours...

so we’d have Arias available last night

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

We had to wait 24 hours because of Guzman's 10-5 rights

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

(And it's not like Guzman could have made it to Anaheim last night even without the waiting period)

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was only a few hours away by car

He was supposed to drive over last night and visit the guys in the clubhouse after the game, according to KRLD.

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? Didnt know that

Where were the Nats, then? San Diego?

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh F, I goofed

That was Cantu.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Even if he agrees to waive, he still has 24 hours to wait.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are right.

lets keep this chain going, I don’t understand this obscure rule yet.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It means that if a player has at least 10 years of service time and 5 of them with his current team, there is a 24 hour waiting period before a trade can be completed

/Mike E

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah

ok then.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

ARIAS DIE DAMMIT.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, Mendez

Not bad. He is a very projectable arm. Has gas.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Good stuff, the stockpiling of hard throwing projectable arms continues

And this still (somehow!) makes it possible for us to carry all of Kinsler, Guzman, Arias, and Blanco on the roster at once.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

McGuinnis

sounds a bit like Moreland.

Here’s his peripherals.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

More patient than Moreland

but yeah, pretty similar. Glad they’re challenging him right away with a promotion.

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by t ball on Aug 1, 2010 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

the open stance

reminds me a bit of a lefty Nellie. That would be nice

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by AndrusImpersonator on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sally stats:
G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
78 341 282 41 84 20 1 12 46 2 3 53 59 .298 .416 .504 .920

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

For comparison

Mitch moreland’s 22 season with Clinton

A Clinton 530 465 64 151 37 4 18 99 2 60 67 2 .325 .402 .538 940

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to be a Debbie Downer on McGuiness

But for every college player who has a season like Moreland did in Low A, there are probably 8-10 who are nonprospects before they hit AA.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course

no one is suggesting otherwise, i just find it odd how frighteningly close they are.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did not realize MM walked that much

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looking at CD's BB rate will do that to you.

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Sally is a much tougher league for hitters than the Midwest, right?

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was the other way around

I thought the Midwest was a notorious pitchers league.

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is, but I always heard the Sally is terribly unfriendly to hitters, particularly in the way of power

Maybe they’re both tough enough on hitters that it’s a wash and the comparison numbers are pretty close in real terms.

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it the GCL that's so terrible for hitters then?

I feel like one of the A-ball leagues in the Southeast is terrible on hitters, and that it was discussed in the context of Elvis when we acquired him from the Braves. Especially that the humidity depressed power numbers.

Or I could have just dreamed it all. I dunno.

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct about the humidity

As far as I recall.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

when I think of the SE and pitchers havens I always think of Myrtle Beach. It’s one of the worst hitters parks in organized baseball most years.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

the two leagues aren’t that far apart. The Midwest League from 2007-2009 was .254/.323/.372, while SAL was .258/.326/.383. Midwest league’s HR rate was 1.6% with SAL at 1.7%, both pretty low compared to other leagues. League walk rates were nearly identical as well.

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by t ball on Aug 1, 2010 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good stuff, thanks

What’s the Cal League’s HR rate, 24%?

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by WestTxAg06 on Aug 2, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's 2.2%

high, but exceeded by the Pacific Coast League and both major leagues.

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by t ball on Aug 2, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Midwest

is the better pitchers league. Sean Smith’s Minor League Equivalency has McGuiness putting up a .289/.403/.490 line in Clinton.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sad about losing a member of the Tex trade without him ever doing much for the team.

Not that it’s anything less than an awesome trade still, I was just hoping for more.

Also annoying to finally trade Salty to the Red Sox for less than we could have gotten a while ago.

by philkid3 on Jul 31, 2010 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey

If the Rangers win the West by one game this year, we can thank Salty.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's definitely a shame

that he couldn’t ever establish himself here. I bet he does in Boston.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then Josey & Galloway will have a field day with JD's incompetence

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet he doesn't.

AL West

Oakland 90-72
LAAA 88-74
Texas 83-79
Seattle 77-85

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by Drew062682 on Jul 31, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hm.
I bet he does in Boston.

Really?

Sounds like a taller order than breaking in with Texas.

He hasn’t exactly run away with his opportunities here, even at AAA.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Jul 31, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

One big difference

It seems like the coaching staff and more recently the front office here is completely sour on him. And while that may happen fast in Boston, he will initially find people actually rooting for him. It seems pretty apparent that Ron Washington (probably among others) had no interest of ever seeing him catch another game in Arlington.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That will often happen

When you can hit for shit or throw the ball back to the pitcher…..just sayin.

The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.

Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT

by Drew062682 on Jul 31, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

I’m not saying that the souring is undeserved. But knowing that your bosses are not fans of yours is not a good feeling, and many other players have benefited from moving to a more positive personal atmosphere. The question is obviously whether he actually has the ability in him to establish his game, and I was just saying that I kind of think he does. I wouldn’t bet on him being a big star, but he has enough talent to be a good hitter for a catcher and to do enough defensively to be viable.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I spent four years sucking at my job

then I’d better expect that my bosses wouldn’t be fans of mine and get over that in a hurry.

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by JBImaknee on Aug 1, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

They really soured on him after the whole not telling them about being injured

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by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

We better get more than Bucholtz for Salty!

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's some potential in that deal

Mendez could turn out similar to Bard in value. McGuiness probably won’t amount to much, but he’s having one hell of a season in A ball. I’d like to see him

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

woops hit post too soon

I’d like to see him hit in Bakersfield before jumping on his bandwagon though.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'd think he'd have some success up in Bakersfield

seeing as how hitter friendly that league is

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by mayur.patel on Jul 31, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It helps out

but its still not an easy jump for players to make if they are only beating up on younger competition. Look at guys like Ian Gac or Mike Bianucci. They put up amazing seasons in A ball before a promotion to Bakersfield and went on to disappoint. They still hit for power, but the Ks went way up and their walk rates went down. McGuiness though has a near 1:1 BB:K ratio right now to go with his amazing stat line which gives me some more hope that he’ll continue his Moreland impression.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually like the deal.

I just think I would have liked the Salty deals I was in favor of more than a year ago more.

Of course, I was in favor of them because I thought Teagarden would at least be an a OK MLB catcher.

by philkid3 on Jul 31, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

As was I. So wrong.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

I wasn’t in love with any of the catchers, I just liked Teagarden the most.

by philkid3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Teagarden better, too.

I think you and I were the only ones who did. But neither of them are ever going to amount to anything.

by Black Francis on Jul 31, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought trading Teagarden at the time

would have been the best thing because you’d be selling high. But I had my doubts about the return anyway. Gheez, I’d take a corn dog and a bag sunflower seeds now. I think we should loop Teagardens oppo field HR in opposing managers offices so as to get their attention. “Look how far this guy can hit a ball to the opposite field! He must be good! I must convince our GM.”

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 31, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Power AND defense!"

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was on the Teagarden bandwagon.

But that was well before I joined this site and at the time he seemed like the most likely one to be steady defensively and consistently healthy. I never dreamed that his offense would wind up be so terrible.

by casew on Jul 31, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teagarden had the most questions about his health

due to a bad shoulder etc at one point

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 31, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

For some reason I was always concerned about Salty's height...

causing him health problems. It was probably unfounded but I preferred catchers with a more compact frame. But Mauer is a relative tall guy and he is going to give you a 130 games or so.

by casew on Jul 31, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was discussed at the time of trade

It’s a valid concern, Mauer being the obvious exception, but the Twins still try to manage his health (and may eventually move him to maintain the bat).

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the things that I like about this deal

is that there’s a chance we get something as valuable as Bowden/Masterson and Bard for Salty. No guarantees of course, but there’s some good potential with these 2 and the PTBNL.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Based on all the rumors at the time, the Rangers could have gotten some combination of Masterson, Bowden, and Bard. It was a pretty underwhelming offer for a then promising, young catcher and I’m glad JD turned it down. Salty didn’t work out, but I’m not sure what we got now is any worse than that.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also NIck Hagadone I believe was in those rumors

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

We were told when the Tex Trade was

made that Salty was the centerpiece to the deal.

Really tough week for The Black Hole of 2009…Davis gets shit-canned to OKC and Salty gets traded.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw this earlier, and it made me think of you.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Obsess much?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I saw it literally five seconds before you posted, and it seemed to fit.

"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton

by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

As you are so fond of saying, Let the Healing Being™

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

As tough as this week was for The Black Hole of 2009...

it’s been a great week for fans of the Texas Rangers.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except for the fact that now we're left wondering what the hell we're going to do about C and 1B for the future.

But yeah, it’s been obvious to me for a while that neither of those guys are in the team’s plans going forward.

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by TXHC on Jul 31, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was the centerpiece

…only because he’d already been to the majors, was the oldest of the guys coming over, etc. And yeah he had talent, but obviously not enough.

by Black Francis on Jul 31, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew you were going to bust out the "centerpiece" bit again

It was a great trade for the Rangers. They got an outstanding return. Trading Teixeira was the right make, and helped make the team better than they would have been had they kept him.

You were wrong. Continuing to carp about the “centerpiece” not working out makes you look petty. Admit you were wrong and move on.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who are we running out at 1B tonight?

A HOF er?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

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by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF does that have to do with anything?

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing that in JW-Land, Tex would still be on the Rangers in 2010.

Oh, and he would also have made the Hall of Fame, while still being a player.

What a world.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much the Tex HOF talks will die down now

that he has put up another weak HR season and continues to show that he is good, but not 20+ million a year good.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if not playing up to a contract you were given would hamper you HOF potential?

There’s not much precendece since the huge contracts only started the last 15-20 years.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It probably would have an effect on some voters

Consistently being considered overpaid or having a terrible contract isn’t something that goes along with what some voters believe a Hall of Fame player is.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Especially if it's perceived that he "wilted" under the pressure of having a giant contract in New York

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tex played up his contract last year

and is heating up once again. He’s gonna end up with 32+ HRs and an OPS close to .900.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's HOF worthy right there

Of course, that OPS is a distant fifth in the AL behind and not even top 10 in baseball. Yep, just a few more years like this one from the now 30 year old Tex and he’s going to easily make the HOF.

/sarcastic response.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It won't die down at all, gdawg.

Mark Teixeirra is going to the HOF

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

good gosh are y'all related?

thats pretty ballsy after the way he’s played in NY

by blueballlefty on Jul 31, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tex was a bad-ass last year in a year

where they happened to win a title.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Similarity scores would indicate that's FAR from certain

Albert Pujols he’s not.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who is?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the point

There are very few players right now who I would confidently predict as being HOFers. Pujols is one the few. Teixeira is not.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's gonna hit 500HRs and win a string of GGs in the largest media city for

the most celebrated team in the history of MLB when they are playing some of their finest baseball.

If Tex stays healthy and passes all his drug tests, the HOF is a lock.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playing in NY isn't all that great if you want to get in to the HOF.

The bar is raised. A lot. Plus he isn’t a part of the “Super Square” or whatever you want to call it (Jeter, Posado, Rivera, Pettite). Those guys will be what this decades Yankee team will be known for.

A-rod has the super huge numbers and position to make it in.

Tex doesn’t, yet.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Johnny Mize says hi.

So do Catfish Hunter & Rich Gossage.

Phil Rizzuto says what up?

Bill Dickey wants to know how the hell you’re doing.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are you doing is what we want to know.

He’s gone get over it.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody else brought it up...

We gave up a HOFer in his prime and he hasn’t been adequately replaced.

JD’s very lucky he hit on both Feliz & Tiny E.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
JD’s very lucky he hit on both Feliz & Tiny E.

Or else he and the rest of the front office did a very good job of identifying them.

by Adam J. Morris on Jul 31, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh don't be ridiculous, we know Little Boy Donuts and his band of stooges are incapable of such things

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

When he said that they considered

Elvis equivalent to a top five draft pick, just after he made the trade, he was just throwing darts.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whee he disappeared!

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give credit to JD for getting both Feliz

& Tiny E but they gave up a HOFer in his prime in order to do so.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

What are you going to do when Tex doesn’t make the HOF?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the time

Tex exhausts his eligibility, Josey Wales will probably be buried.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

One can only hope

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elvis and Feliz> the picks we would have gotten for him.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm discussing what he's going up against this decade.

The late 90’s-2000’s Yankees will be known for the Super Square and A-rod.

Tex will be: close but not enough, fodder.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got 238 HRs left

Lets assume he hits another 10 this year. Its amazing to me that you think 272 career HRs for a player’s first 8 years is somehow going to hit 228 more from his age 31 season and on.

Even beyond just the HR mark, he’s going to have to be inducted in the HOF right around the same time that much better 1B will be on the ballot for the first time.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's

…the long man, the all-star closer, and the all-star shortstop? Where the fuck did those guys come from?

by Black Francis on Jul 31, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

JW ass.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

IF NOLAN WAS SOLELY IN CHARGE HE WOULD HAVE FOUND BETTER PLAYERS TO MAN THOSE POSITIONS!!

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No you're right we may not be

but we are rolling out a potential HOF’er at closer and SS and our long man has been solid, and we have another big 20 year old minor leaguer throwing 96+ and a 1B in HighA raking

by blueballlefty on Jul 31, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Beau Jones could still end up being a LOOGY or a trade chip at some point

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Joba is all that great, to be honest.

I like what the Rangers got vs. Joba.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that overly chatty broad

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did I miss a story somewhere about philkid?

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

His brother had friends over last night

and they were well….annoying. PGT and GDT littered with gold.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darn, that's what I get for not having my computer out last night

I did get some fun drunken texts from a friend who was watching the game, though, so that was fun.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

Baseball Jesus has come a long way.

by JimCrankshaft on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, the way Joba is sucking it up, he may have been spot on.

He may have the last laugh on all you mother fer’s.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

I had no idea he was doing so poorly. I knew he was having a down year but I didn’t think it was that bad.

Yeesh.

by JimCrankshaft on Jul 31, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mendez to Spokane just announced

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

BenBadler Just catching up on trades. Between Villar and Mendez, that’s two of BA’s top ’08 DSL prospects dealt. Mendez up to high-90s

by octoberty on Jul 31, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohhhh JD, stealing the sexy Dominicans from the Sox again

You think Theo would be wary after the Engel Trade.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Needs moar pears

then you would sound like Dirk

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

...
His fastball sits between 94-96 mph and tops out at 99 mph with late hop

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also said it's flat w/ little deception.

Which the numbers seem to back up. He gave up 5 HR in his 15 IP in A ball this year. Still, I’ll go with the guy with the lively arm

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sshhh

I was just giving the positives!

:)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

salty's dad must be happy

gets a chance with a new organization

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure he's ecstatic.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arias is literally the roach.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, those fans will love the adventure of

watching him getting the ball back to the pitcher.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Jul 31, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

or so says saltys dad

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's not where I heard it.

Who knows…

You’d think if he were making a lot of crazy throws back to the mound someone would have yanked out their camera phone and it would be on youtube, though. I’ve looked as I’m sure a lot of people have and never found anything.

by Black Francis on Jul 31, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think more was made of it than it deserved

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by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats enough to sign a draft pick...
jaysonst
  
#Redsox sending $350,000 to #Rangers as part of Salty deal. #trades

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by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

JD turning shit into diamonds

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM

by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Salty was sent down earlier,

I really didn’t think that would be the last we saw of him in a Rangers uni.

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by EssBee on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I wasn't that surprised

he really seemed like he burnt some bridges with Wash, and you get the feeling he was acting like an entitled bitch despite never really doing anything in the majors. If you are going to act like a big shot, you better play like one.

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by DJCahill on Aug 1, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey folks, coming over from OTM to tell you that's a fairly good haul.

Roman Mendez can really bring the heat and could well be a future closer. He’s struggled so far this year, especially with homers, but I see him as having a similar path as Daniel Bard did, so there’s that.

Even though McGuiness isn’t really playing at a level that befits his age, he should be served well by his eye at the plate no matter where you put him. His power surge this year was pretty surprising, so I wouldn’t be quick to assume it’ll stay until you see him repeat it next year.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Good stuff, thanks for stopping by

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Ben

It’s good to have visitors for once that actually know what they are talking about and not baiting for trolls on their board.

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by EssBee on Jul 31, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

One other thing on Mendez

His velocity jumped up significantly in the past year, so a lot of his control issues could simply be a matter of learning how to use it, as it were.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are his mechanics like? Is he a max effort guy or fairly easy heat?

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

soxprospects.com sez:
Mature, focused, and poised on the mound. Fluid and balanced delivery, but can short-arm the ball now and again. Throws from a high 3/4 arm slot.

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That seems to fit

Last year in your rookie league he only walked 4.2% over 49 IP

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I support this post.

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty

is too serious for a good Rube Baker joke, I’m afraid. And strikesout a lot and doesn’t walk. we don’t like him much.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with that, really.

Just a bit unusual in his case. Whatever floats their boats, though, right?

by Black Francis on Jul 31, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as she is hot I guess it is alright.

Even better if she is hot and her parents have a shitload of money. Not sure if that is the case for her or not. I highly doubt that she is rich if she is a teacher though.

by casew on Jul 31, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

My friend married into a wealthy family

His wife has her undergrad degree from Columbia and a Masters at Stanford. Teaches music in the Oakland school district. So I guess it’s possible.

by Black Francis on Jul 31, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't lie, we know you don't have any friends

/brettgardner

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard today...

that a person who reads a book per month has the highest likelihood of being/becoming a millionaire. So if that is the case, most female teachers ought to be a multi-millionaires. It hasn’t worked out well in my family though.

by casew on Jul 31, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Surprised he hasn’t stopped by here to weigh in yet, actually.

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by TXHC on Jul 31, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

it’s great.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not a bad guy

He just bristles at some of the overly mean ways people get on the net, at least I think.

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

You say that LSB gets overly mean?

Now you’re just being ridiculous.

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

die in a fire!

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by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Dickfuck!

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Dickfuck!

I had a friend who died in a fire, so while you may think it’s some kind of joke, that’s serious to me!

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a fun episode last year

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't you bring up R. Lee Ermey

YOU NEVER SERVED IN THE CORPS!

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

IT'S A BADGE OF HONOR!

Only real marines know what it means to be a marine, and R. Lee is one of us!

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I'll never mention him again, promise!

:)

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a few posters

slc, ab, philkid.

everyone else is very nice, generally =)

by Mike E on Jul 31, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, that was Lewin.

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our tv pbp guy just stopped by once and said he enjoyed reading us but wished we didn't call people d-bags so often, or something to that effect

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh Josh

we use D-bag as a term of love when it comes to you.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah that was a great thread.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't say to stop insulting him.

just to watch the language in general cause we don’t know who is reading (kids) .. his in particular

by Mike E on Jul 31, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

That would be us.

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by TXHC on Jul 31, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Firebat is generally the nicest

And brettgardner bakes cookies for new members, particularly those who start fanposts.

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'd say they are more argumentative than mean

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by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's plenty of argumentative people here

but they do it nicely. ab and company will throw insults at you personally and so forth..hence.. they’re mean. heh.

philkid isn’t really mean mean..he’s just a jerk at times.

by Mike E on Jul 31, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eat a dick.

For not including me.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even know if you can call what you do mean

When you explain a point to someone in 4 or 5 responses and back it up with statistics, and then you try to explain the statistics to them and they still don’t get it………I’d say whatever they get they had coming

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't even begin to say how much I love this post

My all time favorite

AL West

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by Drew062682 on Jul 31, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mendez #11 prospect in Gulf Coast League last year

according to Baseball America
When the article was written….his Slider was a solid swing and miss pitch

by Doc Mabee on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

barajas vs larid
laird vs salty
salty vs throwing to the mound vs tea vs max vs treanor

and we are left with 36 year old sub .600 ops’ing as a ranger Bengie Molina.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha!

Hey, wanna bet they offer ARB now?

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by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well when he hits in a game

He makes it count. That’s veteran leadership

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salty

We’ll miss Salty. Has been a tough summer for Salty. From Game 1 game winning RBI in the 9th to extended AAA stay. Good luck Salty.

by Ryan2907 on Jul 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

I was just mastering spelling his name too.....

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by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll probably

get to deal with him in at least one playoff series in the next few years.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet you are correct sir.

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by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox aren't making the playoffs for the next few years

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I assume the Yanks will always be better in the regular season

and that the Rays aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec

I liked the guy, thought he handled himself with class. I wish him luck.

by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Jul 31, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I won't miss him.

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by Athos on Jul 31, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope

he takes his dad with him. Not that there is much chance his dad won’t be there to coddle him.

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by DJCahill on Aug 1, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

We need a total of how much money JD has gotten in trades.

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by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

$Texas

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Berkman
brianmctaggart Berkman would have accepted trade to Texas and St. Louis and considered trades to Tampa and San Diego. www.astros.com

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

We could have beat the Yankees offer with not much.

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by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dang it.....

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by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

he said on MLBN that the yankees are probably the only place he'd accept a trade to

but that didnt seem right…. probably just exaggerating post fact.

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by DShep on Jul 31, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck to Salty...

I still think he can get things turned around and be a good catcher. Still very young, good talent. It was just obvious that it wasn’t going to work out in Arlington for him.

Two decent low level prospects coming back and a PTBNL I have a hard time believing that Salty was worth what the Rangers got back for him right now. Another good move by JD.

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by slc ranger on Jul 31, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Turning crap into diamonds I say.

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by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal
  
#RedSox believe Salty fighting thru throwing issues, needs change of scenery. 18 months ago, he would have cost them Buchholz. #Rangers #MLB

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

The problem with saying that

is that he would have cost them Buchholz, but what they were offering, outside of maybe Bard, wouldn’t have been much if any better than this. I don’t know that they really got any sort of discount by waiting, other than getting to give up guys who were further off. I remember suggesting doing that sort of deal anyway at the time. I would have liked guys like Pimentel and Mendez better than Bowden back then.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

wonder the quality of the PTBNL

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by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two words: Kason Gabbard.

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by RangersSD on Jul 31, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pre-Sexson Gabbard though

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Newberg is pondering whether it's a 2009 draftee who didnt sign until August and thus couldnt be traded by Boston until this August

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boston's 2009 draft

was pretty good in term of late HS guys who signed over slot.

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd going to go ahead and assume it will be Reymond Fuentes

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

My "Mets interested in Harden/Feldman = Ike Davis trade" assumption yesterday didn't come true

So I’m hoping I’ll be right on one of these.

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take Renfroe

while we’re dreaming. He hasn’t hit a thing this summer.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

HS from Mississippi right?

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

SS I think

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Texas college pitchers Alex Wilson and Kendall Volz were both drafted by the Sox last year, FWIW

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be some guys that the Rangers wanted last season

but knew they weren’t going to have the money for.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Operating under the assumption that it's a 2009 draftee

And they wouldn’t have been a PTBNL if they were signed prior to August 2009, we have:
3B David Renfroe (3rd round, MS high school, signed for 1.134M + 1.4M deferred)
RHP Madison Younginer (7th, SC HS, 975k)
RHP Kendal Volz (9th, Baylor, 550k)
OF Brandon Jacobs (10th, GA HS, 750k to buy out of Auburn FB scholarship)
SS Jason Thompson (11th, TN HS, 300k)
RHP Renny Parthemore (18th, PA HS, 150k)
1B Miles Head (26h, GA HS, 335k)
RHP Eric Curtis (28th, Miami-Dade CC, N/A)

Younginer and Thompson aren’t doing much in the GCL, Parthemore’s never played. Curtis is a converted catcher and is very raw. Jacobs and Head are doing okay (.740 OPS) in the New York-Penn league. As Z mentioned, Renfroe’s done nothing this year. Volz has been fairly decent as a starter in the Sally.

Wondering if it’s Jacobs or Volz…

by Outworlder47 on Jul 31, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I highly doubt it's Renfroe

Even if his stock is down, that’s very soon to give up on a third-rounder you paid a ton of money.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Same goes for Younginer, Jacobs and Volz.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't necessarily have to be a 2009 draft pick

The deal might have been put together at the last second and they needed to hurry up and get it turned in to the commissioners office. So they probably have a group of players that they can pick from, they just didn’t have time to do their research before the deadline.

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is probably the most likely scenario

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by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, it's a good point.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the only evidence to suggest it was a 2009 pick was that it's a common reason for PBTNL at this time

Instead, how about we run with the theory that JD is trying to decide between Westmoreland, Kelly, and Fuentes and didn’t want to rush the decision?

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I completely agree

I was just scouring the list if that was the reason for the PTBNL. There are some guys there that are intriguing, for sure.

Who wants to bet it’s a JD special—one of those relatively unknown Latin players, and we just needed more time to choose which one?

by Outworlder47 on Jul 31, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't surprise me at all

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe we are picking from a list

of guys IE: Main and the Giants and we needed to get the deal done before the deadline

by blueballlefty on Jul 31, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

or like the Everett deal, where they got to watch Francisco, et al for a while.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was fascinated by Bowden back then

Once again, I prove how bad I am at predicting.

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by DerekSTheRed on Jul 31, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does adding Salty

mean BOS is anticipating not being able to re-sign soon-to-be FA Martinez who might be expensive coming off his All-Star season? They have to decide whether to pick up Ortiz’s option plus Beltre is a FA after the season. Can they afford to re-up with all 3? Just wondering because Molina/Treanor/Teagarden/Ramirez seem like blah stopgap options while Martinez – throwing problems aside – would be a really nice bat to have at C for us.

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by stupidsexyflanders on Jul 31, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

V-Mart has DH written all over him for the next 5 years.

1B for the next 2-3. Then DH, I guess I should say.

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and it's not like you're going to find a way, any way, to keep him behind the plate for his defense/game calling skills

The Red Sox are in a tricky situation so long as they have Wake on the roster.

They can’t logically carry Salty and use V-Mart as the pickup, because I don’t see either of them catching Wake.

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone else watching the Boston Detroit game?

Foul ball into the stands, fan reaches up and deflects it from Laird who would have had it for sure. That’s how it’s done, Rangers fans

by hedowhathedo on Jul 31, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

From Jayson Stark tweet

Redsox sending $350,000 to #Rangers as part of Salty deal.

92 wins or bust!
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by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Jul 31, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Good

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I assume this will push someone like Jonathan Greene or Chris Gradoville up to Frisco to help man the shorthanded decks

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I swear I did not know that, I'm just good at guessing fairly obvious things

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

also Chris McGuiness also pitched in college. This is absurd. Someone’s having fun with us.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

Do doubt.

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

what does he look like?

Are we sure its not Moreland?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Jul 31, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw someone recommend lonestarball.com to someone else on my FB news feed

Good times

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The Redhawks...

are coming to Salt Lake on Wednesday. I’m having a hard time convincing myself that I should miss Rangers games and shuffle my work schedule to go see them though.

Obviously if Holland is pitching I’m going to make every effort to get there for that game. I’d also love to see Scheppers pitch, but with him in the ‘pen now it’s tough to predict when/if that will happen. I was also looking forward to seeing Salty and how he looked at the plate and his throwing. Obviously that’s not happening now.

Anyone else have any other reasons to miss Rangers games and see OKC? Omar Beltre? Strop? Obviously seeing live baseball and some of the prospects is nice, but right now it’s not as nice as Rangers baseball down the stretch.

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by slc ranger on Jul 31, 2010 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Scheppers and Strop

and CHRIS DAVIS!

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by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seeing Davis is just going to make me sad.

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by slc ranger on Jul 31, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he'll be on the bench, because his shoulder is hurt, right?

I mean, that’s why he’s not up in Arlington, right? Right?

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by AceJC on Jul 31, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It looks like...

if Holland is going to get 2 more starts in the minors that they will be against Iowa on the 2nd and in Salt Lake on the 7th. If he stays on a regular 4 day off rotation. But who knows.

The Redhawks are here for 4 games. I may only go to the Saturday night game on the 7th and hope to see Holland and/or Scheppers.

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by slc ranger on Jul 31, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was bound to happen

The way he’s been carrying this team.

by dolphinpuncher on Jul 31, 2010 4:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

x
The way he’s been carrying this team thing.

by octoberty on Jul 31, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

/Wash

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by TXHC on Jul 31, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

he hurt his back carrying his big old bag of suck..

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by randyd on Jul 31, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scouting the Sally is going to see if he can throw something together for us on Mcguiness

make sure you follow him and check in on twitter @ScoutingtheSAL or http://scoutingthesally.com/

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

hahahaha

I expect the column next week.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban's gonna be pissed!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

"It shouldn't matter what the lesser guys in the trade do, because if you were smart enough to know that they were good, they would have been the crown jewels to begin with!"

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

If only he didn't have a dumb motherfucker for an agent

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

it just

might have gotten better, we’ll know more in a year I guess, but Mendez’s projection looks pretty filthy

by blueballlefty on Jul 31, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite revisionist point about that deal

is that Salty was by far the key player in that deal and no one could have expected Feliz and Andrus to turn out like this.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of revisionism

AJM is dealing with some right now on Twitter:

lonestarball Like Neftali Feliz and Elvis Andrus? RT @jperrotto Saltalamacchia’s stock has fallen. Again, shows the #Braves usually know who to trade

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

gawdalmighty

I hate stupid.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

And to further his point

the reason that Andrus was expendable was Yunel Escobar.

by Brett Perryman on Jul 31, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

As Alex blows John kisses

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who had to be traded because he had a bad attitude and couldn't give the club what Alex Gonzalez has

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

John Perrotto jperrotto
  
@lonestarball Emphasis on USUALLY

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

keep on crawfishing....
John Perrotto jperrotto
  
Clarifying #Braves USUALLY know who to trade. Teixiera deal was an outlier because they were overconfident Tex would sign long-term. 1 minute ago via web

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

As for "USUALLY," see Wainwright, Adam

If the Braves were truly confident that Tex was going to sign long-term without testing FA, Schuerholz was on crack.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of former can't-miss 3B prospects, I wandered over to HH yesterday and boy do they hate Brandon Wood

How that guy has fallen. He was once guaranteed to be the next Cal Ripken, now it’s like he’s a crappy 46th round pick who the team keeps hanging onto for no good reason.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's dumb.

You can’t cite one guy in one trade three years ago as an example of how something “usually” goes, then dismiss other major components of the same deal.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh come on, tell me Perrotto really isn't making that argument

Salty wasn’t particularly can’t-miss at the time of the deal. There were some questions about whether he could stick @ catcher and if not, whether the bat would play @ 1B.

It was obvious at the time that JD was rolling the dice on Salty putting it together, taking a bunch of quantity to hedge our investment if he didn’t, but maybe coveting the slick-gloved, poor-hitting Low-A SS most of all.

Then it turned out the rookie ball pitcher was a hidden gem.

"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher

"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's just funny to take joy in Salty failing

and conviniently ignore the two 21 yr old and 22 yr old all-stars we received from the trade.

by Tex2044 on Jul 31, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

well to be fair

The front office was half expecting him to play 1B when they traded for him, then he and his dad through a hissy fit about playing catch

by blueballlefty on Jul 31, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis and Smoak can meet up in AAA

To commiserate. Seattle sent him down today.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Smoak and Beavan will be together again

Although, I’m not sure if they were ever teammates in Frisco

by octoberty on Jul 31, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smoak and Blake

were teammates in Clinton in 2008 right?

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Jul 31, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

both were in frisco last year

cant remember if beavan had been promoted before smoak went to okc

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by rentz on Jul 31, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The really important thing lost in all of today's events.

Fucking Joaquin Arias survives once again.

You could almost make the argument that we traded Salty to Boston to keep a spot for Arias on the 40.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Neither do I.

You can’t point at anything he does better than Blanco right now.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure you can

He’s better at being friends with Vladdy

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by WestTxAg06 on Jul 31, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh, hit..... run

and his defensive stats aren’t terrible this year

by blueballlefty on Jul 31, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shuddup Mike E

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jul 31, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question about prospects...

Looking at BA’s Top 100 for 2009 with it’s boatload of Rangers…

Who the hell was Aaron Hicks, and how did I not know about him before? He’s listed at number 39 on the list, RHP from the Rangers.

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Was he ever a Ranger, or is this list just wrong?

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by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 31, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he was ever a Ranger it was so secret that I never heard about it

Sounds like a typo.

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