Cliff Lee is a TEXAS RANGER!!
by boomer1 on Jul 9, 2010 7:52 AM CDT
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The Yankees were 'on the brink' of acquiring Cliff Lee last night, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Top catching prospect Jesus Montero would head to the Mariners in the potential deal. Seattle GM Jack Zduriencik wants to move quickly and has been in 'constant contact' with Yankees GM Brian Cashman over the course of the last week, according to Sherman. Other clubs remain involved, but the Yankees are the heavy favorite to acquire the lefty.
Update: Lee is supposed to face the Yankees tonight, but talks are intensifying, reports Jon Heyman of SI.com. Discussions between the Yankees and Mariners appear serious and it's 'quite possible' that a deal will be completed.
Update: Sherman hears that the Mariners would get at least three prospects, including Montero. Second baseman David Adams appears to be in the mix. Lee is supposed to face the Yankees tonight, but that could change. If a trade is completed today, Lee will not face the Mariners tonight, or possibly for the entire weekend series
Update: Meanwhile ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports that no deal is in place, and the Mariners could double back to continue discussions with the Rays, Twins, Rangers, Reds and others. The Mariners initially had a ‘huge’ asking price for Lee, but lowered their demands yesterday. As Olney points out, a trade for Lee could mean Javier Vazquez’s days in the Bronx are numbered.
Update: 10:44: Catching prospect Jesus Montero and second base prospect David Adams will head to the Mariners, possibly with another prospect, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, who broke the story.
Maybe there is a way we can get him without Smoak in the deal?
I don't know much about this kid. Who would be comparable in our system?
I guess this saves us from trading Smoak.
Go Rangers!
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Smoak
I’ve been away from LSB for a couple days. What % here want Lee if it requires Smoak?
Mixed bag right now
I would say 50-50 maybe more like a 40-60.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Montero
Montero was the 4th best prospect in baseball, per Baseball America. Smoak was number 13.
by Darrell McKown on Jul 9, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
But Montero has struggled in AAA this year while Smoak’s posted a .355 Major-league WOBAR.
http://oursaviorchuck.ytmnd.com/
Struggled in AAA
AS A 20 YEAR OLD
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
heh
he is still OPS’ing at 740 as a 20 year old CATCHER in AAA, thats not great but its better than what Smoak did at AAA last year
by blueballlefty on Jul 9, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
he's a 1B/DH without a doubt
but he’s still a major prospect and a guy I do not want Seattle to have.
I was excited about Ramos going to Seattle because I don’t fear him.
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Just today
BA updated their top 25, and Montero is still 5th (obviously a little misleading since neither this year’s promotions nor this year’s draft picks are included).
by Brett Perryman on Jul 9, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't see the point
in NYY giving up prospects to get Lee now. They don’t need him. I suppose they can trade for Lee, then trade Vazquez to recoup some of the prospect value — THEN they sign Lee to an extension and they don’t have to give up any 2011 draft picks. If Cashman pulls all that off he’s a genius.
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They need him
so nobody else gets him. He is really the only game-changing player out there. Shocking as it might sound, they may view Tampa, Texas and Minnesota as post-season threats if any were to land Lee. All are in on him. Taking him away from those teams could be as useful as adding him.
"When you play happy, good things will happen"-Elvis Andrus
We all saw
What Lee did to the Yankees in the WS last year. You might be correct.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Could be, add that as a bullet point to my trade Lee, then Vasquez, sign Lee theory
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trading for him also lets them keep a 1st round pick
that they would have lost by just signing him as a FA.
Hey Tom - It's over now, so do you know how - to pick up the pieces and go home?
as I said above
And now rumors have the Yankees in on Werth as well. Looks like they decided to do their free agent shopping a few months early.
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Crazy
For what? Vazquez?
Is this because Dominic Brown is ready?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I still can't believe the Ryan Howard extension
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I don’t understand this move at all.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
an overhyped yankee prospect....NEVER
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Ha
But seriously, people are saying they don’t think he’ll be a catcher.
And if he’s a 1st base/DH-type putting up a .737 OPS in AAA right now, it’s hard to be impressed.
He is only 20 years old, so has plenty of time to get that up to the .900 OPS he had in AA at 19.
But, he definitely doesn’t fit in the Yankees system, so there is no reason for NY to not trade him. This is a win-win situation for them.
Yes
he’s 20 years old dude, he’s Martin but a hitter.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I've never heard it
But Pablo Sandoval sounds like a good comp to me.
I guess Montero is supposed to have more power?
check out what Smoak did
in AAA last year as a 22 year old
by blueballlefty on Jul 9, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
NYY play by different rules
Who cares if you lose a top prospect when you can just moneywhip the best catching FA?
by Sherman McCoy on Jul 9, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
They keep him out of the Rays' hands.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
MLB...
this is getting as bad as the nba.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 8:42 AM CDT reply actions
at this point, let him go to NY
we can’t beat NYY in the playoffs (this year for sure), so why compromise our future for a rental?
no reason to give SEA anything significant – especially if it’s a “bidding war”
So we should just quit right now?
I guess we should not even think about going to the playoffs if we are just goin gto get beat. Raise the white flag now boys because sam says there is no point in trying.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
not at all what i said
what are the Rangers giving?
what are the Rangers getting?
A: future talent; one pitcher for 1/2 of one season
the other four spots in the rotation aren’t playoff-caliber… at all
he’s not what would put us over the top – not yet. that’s overstating the surrounding cast
unless he could pitch 3-4 innings every playoff game and then turn it over to the bullpen, we aren’t ready to give up players for a rental
by sam in so cal on Jul 9, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok
we can’t beat NYY in the playoffs (this year for sure), so why compromise our future for a rental?
Sure sounds like you think we should just give up this year.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
you extended my argument beyond the point i was making
we should give up on trading away future infrastructure for a rental this year
the price is too high in terms of what we give up and what Lee does for this team – that based on the understanding that a bidding war was possible.
…but as of Friday morning, there was no agreement in place, sources say, and it’s possible another team could step in and make a more aggressive bid.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5366254
which is why i said “at this point let him go to NY”
by sam in so cal on Jul 9, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
So fucking stupid
we can beat anyone with or without Lee
Sorry, I'm really fucking stupid and should be ridiculed and mocked for said stupidity.
Also please don't trade for Cliff Lee because I want to have a farm system for the next 6 years.
They've talked about pulling him from the weekend series
Wouldn’t it be funny if this was ploy by NY to just avoid having to face Lee in this series?
The Mariners initially had a ‘huge’ asking price for Lee, but lowered their demands yesterday.
Of course they lowered their asking price, because for some reason (behind the scenes cash transfers?) everyone drops their pants for the Yankees.
I don't think that's the point
SEA was asking two elite prospects which NYY didn’t have. Everyone else scoffed so they lowered their price to one elite prospect. NYY has one elite prospect at the biggest need position for SEA. NYY know they will sign Lee long term and can replace that catcher in the FA market.
by Sherman McCoy on Jul 9, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
But Seattle won't get Montero as a catcher, they will get him as a 1B DH.
He is not going to be a catcher. At least a very good one, and Seattle enjoys their defense.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
1b is a need for them as well
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Honestly
given that we’d probably have to make a huge offer with prospects because we are too broke to pay him, we are probably better off.
If you want to be mad at not getting Lee, be mad at JD for not trumping Seattle’s offer to the Phillies.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
There's been thought that
Amaro didn’t truly shop Lee around because he was in a hurry to get it completed with the Halladay deal. That’s the only real reason anybody can come up with (outside of hypnosis) that Seattle was able to get Lee for that group of blah prospects.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
We had
8.5 for Harden, I imagine we could have had 9 for Lee instead.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
The timing might have been a bit messed up
we signed harden before lee got traded.
But, I cant’ imagine anybody wanted Harden over Lee – prospects
Wasn't there reports at the time
about how other GMs were upset that Philly moved him so quickly.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
The bigger problem
was Amaro not shopping around the offer. I don’t think other teams hardly had time to even realize Lee might be available or much of an opportunity to make an offer.
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I was fine not getting Cliff Lee....
but not to the fucking Yankees….man I hope someone steps up and beats the offer.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 9:03 AM CDT reply actions
I really don't
Because getting more than Montero would be Teixera like, and I don’t want that in the division.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Jul 9, 2010 9:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Yankees are like that big dog....
That has all the toys but that one toy that the little dog has….so he goes and takes it too, and then wraps his arms around all the toys….WAIT! Are there more toys? We need more toys.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions
LOL this is funny and true..
Yankee Pit Bull > Ranger toy poodle
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
I've long thought the Yankees would get him.
Montero is the perfect prospect for such a deal. The Yankees would obviously trade him for Lee. The Yankees have other options to pad the deal as well. It makes way too much since.
And good riddance. This talk of trading Smoak + for him is insane
Go Rice Owls!
I'm not a Jesus fan, either
I wouldn’t mind if he was the only useful prospect that Seattle got back.
I still think they’d be crazy to not prefer a Salty/Davis/Font/Beavan/Moreland offer
You trying to say Jesus cant hit a curveball
Sorry, I'm really fucking stupid and should be ridiculed and mocked for said stupidity.
Also please don't trade for Cliff Lee because I want to have a farm system for the next 6 years.
Good...
go to NY. Whatever.
Just let the Rangers keep, Smoak, Holland, Scheppers, Perez, et al.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Weird
They got it done without any pitching prospects? I would have been down with Smoak, Salty (if they wanted him) and A/A+ pitcher
So I guess this means VMart to the Yankees is a done deal this winter then
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
From the Sherman peice, it sounds like the M's wanted a bat from the beginning
The Mariners were valuing a high-end bat that they could have in their lineup no later than Opening Day 2011 and/or a catcher. Despite Montero’s problems offensively in Triple-A this year, Seattle still recognized that he was 20 and think he has a special offensive ability. The Mariners also believe that Montero’s defensive abilities have improved and that he might not have to move off the position to first base or DH. In the end, Seattle could not find another bat nearly as good in an offer from any other team. And unless that changed at the last second, the Mariners were going with the Yankees to trade Lee.
And from that last part, it sounds like we weren’t willing to part with Smoak.
Good for us.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
I like that Jon Daniels
sticks to his guns.
by rangersfan32 on Jul 9, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think there's any question in that
But we could’ve no doubt provided better secondary players in the package than NY.
We know Seattle made it clear they wanted Smoak when they where negotiating with us, so based on the timeframe…
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
At least we kept our pieces...
It was pretty obvious it would have taken Smoak plus prospects
Lets just win the division with what we have….and what happens in the playoffs happens.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions
Money
We don’t have it.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I really tried the clowny freaks episode
But Squidbilles is just too balls off the wall for me
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
How do we pay this????
09:$7.5M, 10:$8.25M, 11:$12.75M, 12:$12.75M, 13:$15.5M club option ($3.5M buyout)
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jul 9, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Why is that a big problem?
Do you expect the team sale to still be in limbo in 2013? I know it feels like it will, but those salaries are not unreasonable, and for the rest of this year (the really important number) he’ll make less than Cliff Lee.
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correct
Since that would be the new owners liability and since we don’t know who the new owner is going to be theres no way to give the go ahead.
Once this auction takes place and a group is selected then I imagine stuff like that could be possible
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well, then that rules out Oswalt, too
and they’ve talked about him plenty. I haven’t read that and it would surprise me, because that severely limits who they can acquire. They can basically acquire only guys who are still arb-eligible (would they even qualify) or about to be free agents.
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Oh for crying out loud.
No, I’m not calling you a liar. I said it would surprise me, and it does. How is that calling you a liar? When did he say that? It might explain why the Oswalt talk has died down the last couple of weeks. I just thought they stopped talking about Oswalt because they were going hard after Lee.
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I can never be too sure around here
Did Daniels say that recently, though? Ryan made comments about Oswalt when they played the Astros and that wasn’t too long ago, which is why I was so surprised.
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JD
really when has JD ever said anything that wasn’t a smoke screen.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
heh
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
Do I feel shitty because the Rangers don't have him?
Do I feel shitty because of all teams, the Yankees got him?
Do I feel good because we’ve kept our top farm talent?
Do I feel shitty because the Yankees gave up an appropriate package for him?
Do I feel shitty because I like NYY is a near lock to win the whole thing now?
I don’t know which reason to choose.
Yes.
Yes.
If you want to look at it that way, sure; but prospects with big upside are cold comfort come October.
Yes.
Yes.
they are nice when you have them next season and beyond though...unlike Lee
Sorry, I'm really fucking stupid and should be ridiculed and mocked for said stupidity.
Also please don't trade for Cliff Lee because I want to have a farm system for the next 6 years.
Hmmm...
No.
Yes.
Hell Yes.
No.
They’re really not.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Yes.
No.
Yes.
No, but you do feel shitty because the Mariners now have Montero.
No, because they’re not.
He already did
it’s 33%. Pay attention.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
At this point
the Yankees are so out of this world statistically, that the addition of another player like Lee really does nothing to change the #s.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
We're probably down to about 29% or so
still about 1 in 3, that’s the way most models work.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I would agree with that only because
Burnett and Vazquez have been pretty inconsistent, and Hughes might fade down the stretch. Adding Lee does make the Yankees better. But still, the % difference is going to be very small.
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Hughes
It will be interesting to see what they do with him.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Yall are annoying...
When the Mariners say they want Holland you all say NOOOOO WAAAAAAHHHHH
When the Yankees then trade for him you all say NOOO WAHHHH
Make up your minds..
Sounds like a bunch of Cavs fans…
100% J. Arias supporter from day 1
Why can't they both be negative outcomes?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Wait... fuck... I just treated miles like a real adult person
Nevermind, carry on.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think the majority of people here are that upset it's the Yankees...
there’s not too much to bitch about with this deal.
So, my take is that the Yankees are doing this to block the Rays from getting Lee.
The rumor that seemed most real to me was the one about the Rays getting Brett Lawrie by trading BJ. And, with all of the pitching the Rays have, it really appears the Ms prefer a big bat to pitching. The alternative to that argument is that the Rays maybe didn’t offer pitching, but I find that hard to believe if they really wanted Lee.
Also, in favor of saying the Ms wanted a big bat are the rumors of the Twins and Ms lining up well with the Twins hitting prospects, and the recent reports that the Rangers would have to trade Smoak.
The Yankees have the best of both worlds now. They can invest in high-end prospects, flip them away as they please (or not), then easily replace their production by overspending in the FA market.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
well, they're the Yankees
which will make it all the more sweet when Jeff Niemann (or should I say Colby Lewis?) shuts them out in Game 5 of the ALCS to knock them out of the playoffs
Go Rice Owls!
As Dave Cameron just pointed out
The Mariners now have 3 top 15 prospects in baseball as ranked by Baseball America Pre-Season (Montero, Ackley, and Pineda).
Although it will be fun to have our top prospects Perez/Scheppers/Feliz pitching against their top hitting prospects Ackley/Montero. Should be fun for the future.
From LL:
Yeah the Royals just swept us, but the Yankees don’t want to face Cliff Lee. Cliff Lee the Mariner.
What is it with the other AL West blogs getting all weepy and sentimental all the time?
You know
I’m pretty ok with this. Obviously, I’m not OK with the Mariners getting Montero, but the Yankees pretty much gave away the last pieces of their future with this trade, and that’s pretty good.
And now I get to root for both Cliff Lee and Jesus Montero to fail, good deal.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Well, they still have Romine and Sanchez
at catcher, but yeah, I’m pretty surprised they gave up their best young bat to add a piece to an already strong rotation.
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They can afford to do it, though. They can buy a bat.
Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.
Or they can trade for Werth
and just resign him and then sign Crawford in the offseason.
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m's get boned, i love it
Source says third piece in Lee trade looks likes Triple A RHP Zach McAllister, 22 yo, 7-5 with a 4.45 ERA in 17 starts at AAA. 2 minutes ago via web
USA
McAllister
pitch to contact groundballer, pretty much fits exactly into what the Ms want to do.
I am still not really afraid of them as a team, but they got a heck of a deal with this package. Let’s hope they all fall flat on their faces.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
i think there is a pretty high risk with Montero
and from what i read, he’s not going to end up at catcher…
USA
His bat
is supposedly good enough where it really doesn’t matter if he ends up as a 1B/DH.
At this point, I’d rather have him stay at catcher and ruin his knees/suffer from YCSS
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
His bat is good enough
that it really doesn’t matter that he’s not a catcher.
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Ummm
McAllister was probably the best pitcher on the Yankees farm. He’s not in the same class as our top guys, but the Ms just got pretty much the best deal they could from the Yanks.
Manny Banuelos says hello,,,
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
and smacks you in the face
for even suggesting McAllister is in his class.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
You have the internet
keep yourself up to date
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Poor Hankels
The Rays officially released Blalock, according to MLB.com’s transactions page.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Truthfully, I am not wowed by the Montero package as much as I would think.
The problem with Montero is that he cannot stay behind the plate. Poor footwork, game calling and ball transfer skills. How does he translate to a move to 1st? Will his lower half cooperate enough to be nimble around the bag at 1st? Does he get to the point where he is not a defensive liability at 1st?
If he is going to have to derive all of his value from his bat, the probability of him really being a super star player diminishes quite a bit. Is it possible? Sure, but with him no longer being a viable C there is very few places to go from 1B/DH.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
It would
make my year if Montero now proceeds to Angel Villanola himself, and if Cliff Lee turns pumpkin.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I dunno
If he’s at 90% of what Miguel Cabrera has been this year, that’s an All Star.
The Mariners farm system got better today and with talent that we’ll probably see by the end of next year
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Question:
When Texas faces Sabathia, Pettitte, and Lee in 6 of the 7 games in the ALCS (Burnett gets one start), how many of those games will feature Arias at 1st base for the Rangers?
"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa
Ha
Hey, if the Rangers make it to the postseason, that will be awesome.
I was just allowing myself to imagine what kind of rotation TEX might face in a 7 game series and the Cockroach popped in my head.
At least when/if they face the Yankees, we know the games will be in prime time.
"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa
We'd most likely
face the Rays before we even sniff the Yankees.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Not high at all from what i read
Sorry, I'm really fucking stupid and should be ridiculed and mocked for said stupidity.
Also please don't trade for Cliff Lee because I want to have a farm system for the next 6 years.
This is why I hate the Yankees and their fans
Yanks trying to finish Cliff Lee deal
if montero succeeds we will get him back down the road anyways….LOL!
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Montero
I get that he is a big time prospect, and he is super young and loaded with talent, but it doesnt change the fact that he isnt producing this year in AAA. Furthermore, he doesnt appear to be a walking machine who is going to flirt with a .400 OBP or anything….
He is certainly a good prospect, but i guess i just dont buy him being as high as some…just going off the numbers it appears he will be more in the mold of the slugger who doesnt walk a ton rather than being the MVP type who does both
There are guys id be more afraid of going to the Ms
Sorry, I'm really fucking stupid and should be ridiculed and mocked for said stupidity.
Also please don't trade for Cliff Lee because I want to have a farm system for the next 6 years.
Unless the player came from us
there are few people scarier than Montero in the minors.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Uh, not producing in AAA?
He’s 20. He started a bit slow but has picked up considerably lately, with a June wOBA of .353 and a .372 mark so far in July. This is exactly what you want to see from someone so young in the upper minors, improvement. He has a 10% walk rate and a 20% LD rate.
If Montero were in the Rangers system, he’d be one of the guys we’d deem untouchable in this type of trade. There would be debates in our prospects poll as to who should be ranked first, Perez or Montero.
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Yup
Some would argue Montero, even as a 1B or DH, is more valuable because he’s closer to the bigs and less likely to get hurt.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
This is why the yankees are great, but hated lol
Also the reason why rangers havent made the playoffs in a decade.
I find it hard to believe a montero, adams, mcallister offer couldnt be topped. Rangers have more than enough depth to pull it off.
DIAF
Going to be along time before Oakland wins the West again. Get use to looking at our ass as we are pulling away.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
are you a sorcerer?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yes he plays hide the crowd at A's games
He makes all but 3000 fans disapear
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
by boomer1 on Jul 9, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I look forward
to years of competitive baseball against the SAN JOSE ATHLETICS.
And they say people can never leave Oakland
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
yeah more riots in oakland please
destroy mount davis
did the city burn down yesterday?
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Heh...
MagicMike.
For your next trick would you just disappear.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Smoak/Kaase/Beavan
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Your trio is probably closer than mine
and one I would not want to offer for Lee.
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Smoak/Beltre/Beavan>>>Montero/Adams/McAllister
Adams would rank about 25-30 maybe in the Rangers system? Smoak/Leury Garcia/Kirkman? That’s probably not quite enough.
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Bipolar Mariners fans?
I’m shocked I tell ya, shocked
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Hold on
#Mariners backing off #Yankees offer, Post has learned. Does not look like #Yankees are in it.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Joel Sherman Joelsherman1
To repeat the #Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Latest from Joel Sherman
To repeat the #Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard.
Wonder who that team is?
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
This is from 2:45PM CDT
from Sherman on Twitter
"Thank God for Feldman." - Ron Washington to Eric Nadel, August 2008
# Buster_ESPN
Heard this: At 3:45 E. time, big concerns arising within the negotiation that the SEA-NYY Cliff Lee deal could break up. Fluid situation. less than 5 seconds ago via web
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To repeat the #Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee, #Mariners concerned about David Adams ankle plus apparently another team has jumped in hard 4 minutes ago via web Retweeted by NewbergReport and 66 others
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#Mariners have turned in a different direction and #Yankees do not believe they are in it now (more to come) 5 minutes ago via web Retweeted by Kinslerhomer and 26 others
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#Mariners backing off #Yankees offer, Post has learned. Does not look like #Yankees are in it.
jasoncollette
and so I hear Rangers’ GM Jon Daniels canceled his scheduled chat today cuz meetings running late. Hmmmm
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue
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This has the potential
to be a very bad day.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Just make it stop yo.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
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looks like Jack Z had the same concernts about those prospects as i did
welcome to Texas Mr. Lee
USA
i don't think the ankle of a secondary prospect
who wasn’t ranked in the top 20 for the yanks would be the main reason this deal ‘imploded’
USA
No, I think the fact that another team stepped up its offer is
not any “concern” that Z shared with you.
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which looks like is the case
Buster_ESPN
The Yankees had hoped to strike aggressively, strike quickly, and get a resolution to this —but SEA might still be shopping for alternative
USA
I bet the other team is the Rangers
2:44pm: The Mariners are backing off, according to Sherman. The Yankees believe they are no longer in the Lee sweepstakes, as the M’s have gone in another direction (all Twitter links). Sherman says ‘the Yankees aren’t getting Cliff Lee,’ since another team has entered discussions aggressively.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Porcello
just got pulled. COuld it be Detroit?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
It very well could
I just read that myself.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Porcello, Turner, Cody Satterwhite?
Don’t know about that
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Porcello
is still a pretty big value get. And it makes sense.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
maybe Oliver too
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
No, but he was scratched earlier today
and said to start tomorrow instead.
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x
since another team has entered discussions aggressively.
“Entered” leaves me to believe it’s not the Rangers.
That may be reading into it too much
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Unless it is the Tigers
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Well
The Rangers backed off. So they could just be “jumping back in hard” with an offer of Smoak+.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
I can't remember ever being this emotional about a mid season move.
One moment it looks like we might get Cliff Lee reasonably, and I’m excited. Then it looks like Montero is a Mariner, and I’m let down. Then it looks like we might be giving up way too much ,and I’m afraid.
It’s weird going back and forth between really wanting a player and really not wanting him.
Here we go
Joel Sherman Joelsherman1
Hearing #Rangers are working really hard on #Lee now. Tricky because of finances with team sale not complete and MLB-imposed budget
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
If Smoak is in it yep
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Who is Joel Sherman?
Is he credible?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. very
and he broke the whole Yankee/M’s trade
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
ah.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
d_a_cameron really wants Smoak.
He was pretty upset when it looked like they were getting Montero instead.
Kinslerhomer just knee jerked...
Kinslerhomer
Smoak is gone. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. More Davis. Shit. Shit. Shit. :)
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions
:)
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
very nice, btw.
IF Smoak is the central figure for us in this “deal”
who is Adam’s equivalent and the other prospect NYY was offering up?
I smell a 4-for-1 deal.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Lemon?
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
so....
Smoak > Montero
Lemon > Adams
? > NYY 3rd trade chip
is that right?
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I was kind of thinking Lemon too
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
because of this
Joelsherman1
Hearing #Rangers are working really hard on #Lee now. Tricky because of finances with team sale not complete and MLB-imposed budget
i am shocked....
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
It was a joke
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
But I would feel that way
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
we don't need to do this JD
don’t fucking do this
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
1. Fuck you
2. Shut up
3. Die
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
missed his chat because of meetings, so....
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
by giving up key pieces of the future for a rental that's on the first plane to new york at the end of the season
by Sherman McCoy on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
nobody talks about 2 first round picks
like it is insignificant. Do we have such a bad draft history that 2 extra first round picks are garbage? What if one of the picks gets us a Smoak-type and the other a Beaven-type?
yeah and we thought the PTBNL for molina would be a nobody
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
saying you cant expect things
everyone assumed the ptbnl was no one, and it was main.
expecting 2 draft picks to be beavan types??
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I guess I just don't think a Smoak type prospect would fall into the 20's next year
I hope I’m wrong
Oh no of course not
but i dont see a beavan prospect either. and it’s not guaranteed that they get 2 first round picks lee might not be the highest rated FA
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Ok, I know, I KNOW, that it is the wrong decision to trade away Smoak
BUT…
Saying it’s ended badly when Cliff Lee is fronting our rotation is kind of tough…
3 month vs. 6 years
fucking figure it out already
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I KNOW - I used caps for a reason
I’m just sayin… having Cliff Lee is going to be cool despite the fact that we’re fucking ourselves long-term
We'll have a flawed team
for one year
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
"I can't tell if this is a bit or not"
Is the worst of all LSB retorts.
I’m just saying, you cannot tell me that you won’t be partially excited the first time you see Lee pitch in a Rangers uniform. It puts in position to be GREAT this season.
And I freaking realize it’s a terrible trade, I’m talking like someone who clearly has no influence over whether it’s going to happen or not and is resigned to its occurrence, if it happens.
Why? What you said was literally that retarded.
I can’t enjoy a Cliff Lee victory if I hate the trade that got him here? That’s fucking generic sports fan idiocy at it’s fucking finest.
All I'm saying is it will be cool to have Lee pitch for the Rangers and Poppins is taking offense
Liam is saying it won’t be cool. I’m doubting his stance.
No goddamnit.
I was not saying having Cliff Lee wouldn’t be cool. Of course it would be cool. Unfortunately, you can’t rape and plunder teams for players, so obviously there’s another component to be considered there.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID
Me:
having Cliff Lee is going to be cool despite the fact that we’re fucking ourselves long-term
You:
No it’s fucking not.
You literally said it wouldn’t be cool
Yes, it would be cool to have Cliff Lee.
You can be pissed about the trade and still be excited about the Cliff Lee part of it.
Renting a player at the price of your best hitting prospect since teix is bad bad mojo
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
It's gonna happen
FrankiePiliere I can confirm the report by @JoelSherman1 that the Rangers are making a major push for Lee. They appear to be the team jumping in late
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
This
Marc_Normandin Hi, Texas? If you trade a first basemen, make it Chris Davis. Please remember what happened with Adrian Gonzalez. Thanks.
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Hi Marc
Why would Seattle choose Davis over Smoak or Montero? Please remember common sense. Thanks.
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THe might choose davis
if the other players coming with him are better than the montero/adams package
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I suppose
though the other pieces would have to be pretty juicy in that case.
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This so hard
Marc_Normandin
Hi, Texas? If you trade a first basemen, make it Chris Davis. Please remember what happened with Adrian Gonzalez. Thanks.
And to be fair, I’ve gone back and forth on this so much but I am getting cold feet now that it looks like it is happening.
I haven't gone back and forth, I've been against trading smoak the whole time
But, I’m actually getting excited
Fuck Beltre
fuck Beavan, Smoak is the untouchable.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I'm scared that Nolan will want Lee....
without regards to our farm system.
and now that JD could also look at opting out he make make a run for it as well…
This will end bad.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak No Smoak
Go Rice Owls!
This reminds me a lot of LoL during the Erik Bedard saga
it will end with Adam being really happy about Lee and us forgetting about the long term repercussions (at least briefly)
If he pitched an 8-inning gem his first go here
we’d all be tempted to soften our stance a bit.
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And then be depressed for 6 years
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
maybe
too many people use results to judge trades.
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This is the rare case
of stupid basis with potential for awful results.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
If only Z agreed with this....
jasoncollette
@Marc_Normandin Chris Davis is Russell Branyan Jr. It works
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM CDT reply actions
SI_JonHeyman
#rangers 1 of a few teams jumping in with big snag in yankees/lee trade talk
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Come on Tigers
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
I'd kind of like him to go to the tigers
except theyve got some good pitching that could land with the mariners
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
never, I repeat, never rule out Boston or LAA
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Rays have more to offer in prospects than either team
Unless LAA offers trout, conger, etc
BOS doesnt have any itneresting upper level hitters. Maybe Kalish
only speaking off season, not currently.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think the Angels believe they should be buyers at this point
But I would LOVE it if they did
It has to be Smoak, thats the only comparable mlb ready hitter had to montero
I’m guessing Smoak, Holland, and some throw in mid tier prospect
Chris Davis another chance in texas
Fuck off
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
WHY IS EVERYONE NAMED MIKE RETARDED.
I DON’T FUCKING UNDERSTAND THIS TREND ON THIS WEBSITE.
by LiamP on Jul 9, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm thinking Davis+Scheppers
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
dealing Scheppers still scares me
BUT i’d do that over holland
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Davis + Salty + Sheppers/Perez
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It could
if Z doesn’t like Montero.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
The injury he had was thought to be worse than it was
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
and thats the key
what prospect does HE covet more.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
NO NO NO NEVER NO NO NEVER
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
No shit Jim
JimBowdenXMFOX Texas Rangers have the budget to get Cliff Lee without needing approval from bankruptcy judge….Smoak and Scheppers could get Lee
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
I'm calling bullshit.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Just because you disagree doesnt make it BS
Montero is an elite prospect, if some team has topped it i’m sure as hell expect its not chris AAAA davis in the deal
hey moron
I think it’s gonna take MORE than smoak and Sheppers.
think before you speak.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
JimBowdenXMFOX
Texas Rangers have the budget to get Cliff Lee without needing approval from bankruptcy judge….Smoak and Scheppers could get Lee
stop posting now
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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
fds?!
You don’t even have a real user name, and you thought you would possibly beat Kinslerhomer to linking a tweet.
Lol in your face
I was wondering...
About this. JD said the Rangers had a budget to go over slot on the draft, but they didn’t. And no significant LA signings. Is it possible that the Rangers have a couple million in reserve in the budget?
You know.. Bowden just might of said something of value...
Texas has about 3 to 4M to play with,,,,
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
it would not surprise me...
We had a budget for the draft that we sliced….
and we completely kept any budget from Latin America.
I think we do have wiggle room….
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Move to front page thread
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
univolved team? why is he chiming in then?
ed_price
An official of uninvolved team said that #Rangers now willing to put Justin Smoak in a deal for Cliff Lee. And don’t count out #Reds.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jul 9, 2010 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
I puked a little inside my mouth
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
From TR
I’m not a big TR Sullivan fan, but I hope this is true:
Rangers officials were scratching their heads Friday morning as to why the Mariners would have taken a deal that included catcher Jesus Montero and second baseman David Adams.
The Rangers believe they could have offered a much better package in that trade and were prepared to do so.
The Mariners want Justin Smoak but club officials have indicated the Rangers aren’t interested in doing that. They have told people who have asked they aren’t inclined to trade Smoak. They will obviously move first baseman Chris Davis, who is leading the PCL in hitting.
Jarrod Saltalamacchia would satisfy the Mariners need for a catcher. The Rangers also have outfielder Engel Beltre at Double A Frisco. From a pitching standpoint, the Rangers are deep, beginning with Derek Holland, Omar Beltre and Blake Beavan at the top of the Minor League depth chart and going all the way down.
They just don’t want to talk about Tanner Scheppers or Martin Perez.
http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/07/mariners-yankees_trade_offrang.html
So, no Smoak or Perez makes me happy
Adam Von Soulsmasher
Is Ranger ownership situation making Lee trade more likely? If Ryan/Daniels don’t think they’ll be here after sale, more likely to sell farm
Prospect whores, this is the risk the rangers have to make
10 freakin years not in the playoffs, arent you sick of waiting. I dont care if colby lewis is pitching well. In a short playoff series the yankees, rays or whoever will lick their chops if they are facing lewis, wilson, feldman.
Obviously
But will they lick their chops in a few years facing Feliz, Holland, Perez, Scheppers? Regardless of how many turn out. This team won’t win with Lee THIS year and they won’t win without him, who cares if we make the playoffs and get swept or win 2 games. That’s not the goal. Bottom line, this hurts our championship hopes, it doesn’t help it
No
There’s not a big difference between Sabathia and Lee
no
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
no
we’re talking about 3 months of Lee, not Lee for 3 yrs
I'd def rather keep the Smoak monster
I want to give em a Davis/Font/Beavan/Salty/Profar package, personally
And, I realize that's a shit-ton
But, it hurts a lot less than Smoak, imo, and is just as impressive
I think the yankees were used.....
to scare teams and up the bidding
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
the whole time they are wanting a team to bend....
if no team bends…they would have to settle. It appears teams bent
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
x
ed_price An official of uninvolved team said that #Rangers now willing to put Justin Smoak in a deal for Cliff Lee. And don’t count out #Reds.
I hate this fucking team.
I prefer my sources to be evolved
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Dealing smoak for 3 months of lee might just make my head implode
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I follow like 10 M's blogger/fans
I might kill them all
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Then trade for Ben Sheets
Rangers just give up Boggs or Treanor
Ben Sheets will cost more than that....
Treanor…..really?
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Beane values defense
Also treanors wife could be an extra in the moneyball movie
Your act sucks
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
The Reds need to end this.
Alonzo is expendable when you have Bruce. Put him and some other crap in and end this and get Lee out of the AL.
Votto
He’s a 1B
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
When you have "Votto"
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
So
If the final deal was Crush + Holland OR Scheppers, which pitcher would you least like to lose? I would be very torn.
I apologize if this was asked elsewhere.
i want to keep the lefty whose
arm isnt a ticking timebomb
I feel that both
players are a coinflip. Holland could be an injury prone, inconsistent thrower or he could turn into a TORP. Scheppers could ultimately be destined for the bullpen only for his arm to blow up in a couple years or he could be the second coming of Verlander. I love both players’ upside but their similar risk/reward ratios make it hard for me to pick one over the other.
Smoak + 3
PLUS HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Mark Lowe is out for the year,,,
something isn’t right
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
He's a truly nuclear arm when he's right.
His first taste of the big leagues he was throwing 100mph with truly sickening movement, and a slider/changeup combo that you honestly couldn’t differentiate at 88-92.
He’s just been fragile, but when healthy he’s really sick as a stopper.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
His inclusion might have to do with the amount of money changing hands, sort of a way
to borrow against the cash being sent over today?
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
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