My reaction to the Cliff Lee trade
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 9, 2010 4:49 PM CDT
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PrintOkay, the deal is apparently Justin Smoak, Blake Beavan, Josh Lueke, and Matt Lawson for Cliff Lee and Mark Lowe.
To me, this boils down to Smoak and Beavan for Lee. Lueke is a weird story, a guy who was arrested last year in Bakersfield, looked like his career was over, ended up getting the charges dropped, and established himself this year as a potential power relief arm. But the Rangers are pretty well loaded with power relief arms...he's a guy who is still a fringe prospect. Matt Lawson is a 24 year old second baseman having a decent season in AA, but is basically organizational depth.
Blake Beavan, you can argue, the Rangers sold for the $2.5 million the M's are kicking into this deal towards Cliff Lee's salary. 2007 first rounder, a big righthanded strike thrower who doesn't miss a ton of bats, but who also gets a lot of ground balls and doesn't walk guys. He improved his stock this year, and is arguably one of the Rangers' top-5 prospects (pre-trade). He's a guy who profiles as someone who is a future contributor, but who is not anticipated to be a potential TORP (I do not believe he was included in Jason Parks' highest ceilings series).
Justin Smoak is the big prize in this deal. I like Justin Smoak. I am more confident that Smoak will be a quality major league first baseman than that Chris Davis will be. Some people think Justin Smoak can be another Justin Morneau. Some think that he will be another Lyle Overbay. I suspect that Smoak's struggles with lefties is part of their willingness to part with him. I suspect that the Rangers' willingness to include him in this deal is not because they don't think he's going to be a player, but because they don't think he's going to be a dominant first baseman. Of course, that's why they were willing to part with Adrian Gonzalez, and we know how that went.
As for Cliff Lee...a while back, I talked about the Doctor Zhivago scene in True Romance in reference to Eric Gagne, and compared Gagne to Doctor Zhivago. That was...well, wrong, clearly.
But Cliff Lee, I feel a lot more confident in. Cliff Lee is Doctor Zhivago. Cliff Lee is, if not the best pitcher in the American League right now, one of the 3 or 4 best. Cliff Lee makes the Rangers much better the rest of the way, and much more of a threat in the playoffs.
And that makes this a deal that I can live with. I'm excited that we are getting Cliff Lee. He's the best pitcher the Rangers have had since...well, probably since the 70s. He's a dominant starter who has walked 6 batters and given up 5 homers all year.
The price is steep. We've said all along that the price for a true TORP would hurt. It was going to be painful. There is no question about that.
And this price is painful. It hurts to give up Smoak and Beavan.
But right now, my gut feeling is...that it is worth it.
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I mean, obviously nothing right now
But is he worth trying to keep next season?
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 9, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Being injured his arbitration won’t rise much from the 1.15 hes making this year. And with Frankie leaving in FA he can step right in to that 8th inning role
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
exactly what I was thinking
a very usable bullpen arm … ceiling is an 8th inning guy, but I think he slides into the 7th inning role next year (Ogando or Oliver in the 8th)
Buddy Christ says Go Rangers!
How much better than Chris Ray?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Ray pre-injury
was pretty good
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
That's definately true
pretty solid GB/K profile. I think JD is building RP depth for a Neftali move into the rotation in 2010.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
We're banking on Lowe being pre-injury
is kind of like Ray pre-injury no?
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
that's what I was getting at
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I just don't know enough about Lowe's injury,
or his stuff, to compare to Ray ~ I was just going off Ray post-injury, which is a known quantity.
Not saying that either.
If Mark Lowe returns to 2009 form, that’s a really nice pickup.
He’s in no way comparable to a “Nelson Cruz” trade component though.
He's the David Murphy of this deal.
How’s about that?
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Before today, I was vehemently opposed to a trade because I thought we'd give up too much.
I am very happy with this trade. Very, very happy. Losing Smoak will hurt, obviously, but we didn’t get screwed over here…
AND WE GOT CLIFF F’ING LEE!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I really think what happened here is that Smoak had more value to Seattle than he probably should have.
They were enamored with him.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just to be clear, though, I'm not revisition history-ing this thing.
I love Smoak.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I think their thought was that getting Smoak and damaging their division rival for the next 5-6 years
Outweighs getting Montero from NYY.
???????
Who the fuck do you have playing 1B for us effectively?
btw…CD fucking sucks worse than Josey Wales in case you forgot
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
This is a bit, right?
You’re trying to get us to all defend Chris Davis so we won’t be as down on him, right?
Davis this year
But they’ll go after somebody externally this offseason or next I’d imagine.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Wouldn't it be awesome
if this team ever got an owner & were able to sign Adrian Gonzalez back
by Linedrive222 on Jul 9, 2010 6:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope youre right
I just have no confidence that we’ll ever have any money at this point
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
First Place Mother Effing Texas Rangers!!!
Just got better, bitches.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jul 9, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
Greeeeeennnn!!
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee
I agree and now look forward to the second half of this memorable baseball season.
by johnmont007 on Jul 9, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
great comment on one of the ESPN Dallas articles
CaBaldwin3
5:48 PM on July 9, 2010
FINALLY A BIG NAME PITCHER…..DANIELS YOU ARE AWESOME. EFF CHAN HO PARK.
Underrated point.
Fuck Chan Ho Park!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I agree
not like it means anything but it hurt’s like a stubbed toe and not a broken foot
Fuck JD....Fuck this trade
who the fuck is going to play 1b for us, because we all fuckin know that CD is a big fucking bag of fucking suck who strikes out every fucking time he looks at the batters box….fuck, i think other batters strike out just by fucking looking at fucking CD
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fuck fuck….fuck JD…
and you can see my sig for what is going to happen with the players we traded….2 future all stars for us to watch for 6 years
fuck you JD
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Flagged for stupidity.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It's too early to be drinking buddy
And mankind is naught but a single nation - Qu'ran 2:213
by devsr on Jul 9, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
2 future all stars????
doubtful my man….on the other hand 1 true all star in Cliff Lee, check
3 months
and we dont know what he does the rest of this season…for all we know his elbow could cut through his arm when he pitches (looks like it is close) and impale molina (that part would be good though)
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Uhhh, how do you know Smoak isn't going to continue to suck
Because he really has sucked this season. That said, I would say the odds of Smoak completely sucking are about the same as Lee getting injured. Both probably won’t happen.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
You should probably make a new handle
and just lay low for a while.
by cmkelly29 on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
lol
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, clearly i like the angels....
I may start rooting for the Ms though since i think they know how to run an organization better at this point
or the Rays or twins, b/c you know how those teams make the playoffs every fucking season…do you know why…THEY NEVER FUCKING GIVE AWAY THEIR YOUNG TALENT
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
I believe it's "ratard"
Why do some people think aquariums are cruel? The fish love it there! They told me. They said, "Truthfully Rich, it's fuckin awesome. There's no predators. No nets, no pollution. It's like the ocean without all the bullshit." -Richard Jeni
they have a 200 fucking million dollar payroll
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
you mean the Twins...
who gave up Matt Garza??
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
...for Delmon Young.
It’s a completely different type of trade.
If you do start rooting for the M's
say “hi” to last place for us….
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck that...i love the rangers and ill root for them even if they suck with no talent
i just dont know why id root for the angels in his imaginary world
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Blake Beavan...
isn’t a future All Star. He’s AT BEST Doug Fister.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you know im glad you said that
the past few days ive been thinking beavan projects to fister. which isnt bad, but isnt terrific
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I think he has one lucky year with a low ERA and makes it
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Well then...
that isn’t really something you should be unhappy about. A lucky year is a lucky year, it isn’t really a representation of his value.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno
He’s still young. He could develop a secondary strikeout pitch and become a good 3…but yeah, I’m thinkin Doug Fister.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
That's legitimately stupid.
Not you.
I like you.
But his CEILING is Doug fucking Fister?
Come on now.
Let’s do retractings on that before I do shunnings on your man parts.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
I just don’t like pitchers in the minors who can’t strike anyone out.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Mitigating factors in there.
Young for league, pretty much completely overhauled his mechanics and worked them out on the fly, he’s pretty consistently been hard as hell to homer off of, and the walk rate… oh, gather ’round Goat and let me tell you about his walk rate.
His command is so fucking special.
12 walks in 110 innings as a 21 year old in AA… That’s fucking ridiculous.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Shit...
now im getting depressed again…especially when you think about the fact that he was only in this trade because of Tom fucking Hicks
can we not get someone to fucking kill Tom Hicks?
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Hooray overreactions!
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
I think the username says it all
Full of fucking stupidity
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Jul 9, 2010 5:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
really....texas fucking state....i mean really?
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Yeah really.
Do that not teach fucking reading comprehension up there? I’ll put my degree up with your degree factory any fucking day. Shit you probably didn’t even even get a degree. Probably went to ACC or St Ed’s….
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
UT is a great school...
Don’t let one idiot (who probably didn’t even go there) let you form that opinion.
Replace Jim Knox
by benjihana on Jul 9, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh he didn't form that opinion.
It’s well constructed. Even growing a little moss.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Still in school for the record
I have actually taken 1 class at ACC as well…0 at St Eds though…
But fucking seriously man…you want to try to match Texas and Texas St…i mean you cant be fucking serious, right?
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Yeah I'm fucking serious.
Texas is a degree factory with a name only. So you wanna go or what? Or do you have to go meet Leslie on the Drag for the 7 oclock beej?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
time to take a step back
and realize we got Cliff Lee. JD is going ALL in this year. Yes it will hurt to see Lee sign with the Yanks or Red Sox in the off season and Smoak kicking the Rangers ass for the next 6 years. BUT YOU PLAY TO WIN FOR TODAY and try not to fuck yourself in the ass for tomorrow.
Reply to me? or to ratard up there?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
for 3 fucking months
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
In a season...
in which the Rangers have their best team ever and have a legit chance to do something special.
Sometimes you take a shot. The Rangers have never had a shot.
First base is easier to buy than almost any other position.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
What Ag said about the money thing
and i am agreeing with you a little more now that i let my initial anger subside…but ultimately i still think it was an error to give up smoak for a 3 month rental with about a 1% chance of resigning
Also, i think we couldve won the whole thing without Lee, and that fuels my opinion….i think the playoffs are a crapshoot and it would (and still does) mostly come down to whether or not we are hot at that time
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
ok....fuck you?
im no happier having any sort of an agreement with an aggie so its ok
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
This gives us a real chance in the playoffs...
The possibility to win a playoff series and seriously complete for a WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP and just maybe God willing win one is worth the “2 all stars” as you say.
Wouldn’t you want a Championship?
by Warren P Funk on Jul 10, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
fuck you dumb fucks
its a 3 fucking month rental…and then we watch him pitch for another team
during these next 6 years, we’ll watch smoak kick our ass while we fucking wander the streets looking for a 1B since we have 0 on the roster
And i still think Beavan becomes a very good 3 in the Majors
3 fucking months
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
And annoying as hell
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
you are an angry person
"Diving stab by Andrus, gets up, throws.... GOT HIM!!! An unbelievable play! From short left field!"
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 9, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for your stopping by...
now, off you go…
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
My opinion of this trade keeps wavering strictly based on responses
I read RangerFloppy’s response and I think it’s a terrible trade given how little it helps us long term
Then I read this and start thinking it might not be so bad if you’re so against it.
by ab03 on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That is pretty funny admittedly
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Everyone remember these shenanigans.
In October. And he doesn’t get to be happy or cheer or celebrate when the Rangers finally make it.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Please report to the box office
and turn in your user name. Your idiocy is staining my beloved Longhorns
by BEW on Jul 9, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Our new god.
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
And that smile!
Why do some people think aquariums are cruel? The fish love it there! They told me. They said, "Truthfully Rich, it's fuckin awesome. There's no predators. No nets, no pollution. It's like the ocean without all the bullshit." -Richard Jeni
What would happen if Cliff Lee and Elvis Andrus had babies?
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean Stephen Strasburg isn't theirs?
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
by Smoak Some on Jul 9, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The world would end
something that beautiful shouldn’t exist
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jul 9, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, that was quick
I hope Chris Davis is ready, they basically are handing him the reigns here.
Not mediocre. Right about average
I hope
Davis is ready too. But GOT CLIFF LEE!!!!
Nobody watches the Rangers. They strap themselves in and feel the Gs.
If not,
Lyle Overbay’s a FA this winter
I'm with COCO!!!
by Baseball North on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
He was hurriedly packing, last I heard
Seriously.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Happy to have Lee, wish the team would of had some money so Beavan wouldn't of been included.
Hopefully, Davis can provide anything similar to what he provided in 2008.
Ugh
I just don’t know how to evaluate this at all.
Cliff Lee makes us much, much better today. Smoak wasn’t hitting, Beaven wasn’t here…
But good god. I have the feeling that Smoak is going to destroy us for years from Seattle. Cliff Lee will destroy us from some other team because he’s not re-signing here.
Bottom line: if we don’t go to the ALCS at least, this will not be worth it for me. Hindsight is a dumb way to look at a trade, and right now I’m not super thrilled. A trip to the ALCS can alter my mood though.
I'll take losing one potential monster hitter for gaining one ace.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rangers aren't the Yankees or Red Sox
We can’t contend every year. When it’s time, it’s time.
It's time.
Apparently.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
fuck off
3 fucking months
we didnt gain a fucking ace you dumb fuck…we fucking rented one
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
And who the fuck are you
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
He is a December 2008 graduate of the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia with a Bachelor of Science in Economics with a concentration in Real Estate.
He won’t eat anything unless it’s been shipped overnight from Vermont or Washington state.
He’s also really into small, low-budget art films from Europe. “They’re mind blowing,” he probably says. “But you probably would understand them.” Then he chugs a Mich-Ultra and repels down the side of a mountain onto an aircraft carrier just so he can ask the captain what fucking time it is.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
How did the aircraft carrier get next to the mountain?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you not see the conentration real estate?
He used his mind bullets to buy himself a mountain that’s fucking aircraft carrier adjacent.
Then he called his Mom z to thank her for being so good to him.
“You brought me into this world, Mom. The least I can do is call you and wish you a happy afternoon.”
Then he did ten push-ups and recycled three aluminum cans.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you not realize
he gets to pitch in the playoffs too
groan
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
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Lee comments
Lee texted to ESPN The Magazine’s Amy K. Nelson. “It’s official. From last to first.”
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
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When asked how he felt about the deal, Lee texted “good I guess. Gonna be on a very good team. Definitely gonna be hot!”
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
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And now Lee is on his way to Arlington.
“Bout to go get my stuff from the field,” he texted. “Gonna miss my teammates and coaching staff! Good people!”
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You know that has to be kind of tough.
Even though he knew he was on his way out sooner or later. He has been forced to pack up and move 3 times in what a year and a half. New clubhouse, new manager, new city and new atmosphere.
Good I guess?
Fuck you Cliff Lee.
"Hey... Goldberg! I bet if that puck was a cheeseburger, you'd stop it!
Too soon, dude...
…even in jest.
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige
by Suicide Prince on Jul 9, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like he cant wait to get out
and the heat will probably make him suck down the stretch
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Get a paper sack and
take some deep breaths, good lord Horns…
by lost in space on Jul 9, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a good deal
No Scheppers, no Perez, no Holland, no Beltre…this is a good, GOOD deal for the Rangers.
Loved TAG giving Mitch Williams shit on MLBN
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Lee better than Nolan?
Even in the twilight of his career… I’m not so sure.
"Hey... Goldberg! I bet if that puck was a cheeseburger, you'd stop it!
Twilight of whose career? Nolan's?
That comparison is impossible to make.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not big on comparing guys 1 on 1 from basically different eras.
I’m sure it can be done statistically, but I don’t know enough about it.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, but that doesn't make it impossible.
Absolute certainty is the only thing that’s impossible, but we can be pretty damn certain on this one.
Fair enough.
“Impossible” was the wrong word.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, don't bother.
He’s that bad.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
This is the thread where I'm happy.
About things like the fact that the Rangers are about to have a Cy Young go to one of their players for the first time ever.
It's gotten REAL ugly over at HH..
it’s true they are flying flags over there.
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
by BigGuns on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
good.
I hate the Angels and anyone who likes the Angels.
by Black Francis on Jul 9, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
What a bunch of cuntbags over there:
This is cause for me to use my monthly obscenity. But I’ll save it for a bit.
by RallyMonkey5
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I used to get cognitive dissonance reading what he posts on Halos Heaven, though.
Before I almost completely stopped reading Halos Heaven, that is.
I have to assume so.
Are there not other decent Angels forums? I have to assume not. He can’t actually enjoy the company over there.
I found a place called Halo Hangout that's decent.
But very, very quiet.
People told me Angels Win Blog was good, but then right after I started reading them, they wrote this.
I still don't know
But I love you all.
All I know right now is I love you. Except the idiots.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
{{{Keynes}}}
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I saw this on LoL...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfO-0f8cjwk
"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League
by LSU Ranger on Jul 9, 2010 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
HAHA
Yes
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
We are all
skinny dipping in a sea of Lee!
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jul 9, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
"We're talking fucking Lee"
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
WE GOT CLIFF LEE!
And didn’t have to give up Holland, Perez or Scheppers. I say great deal!
He's a dominant starter who has walked 6 batters
6 Walks?!?! 6 F’ING WALKS?!?!?! MY GOD!!!!!
I’m pretty sure Harden has had more in one start than Lee has had ALL SEASON!!!
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
Fuck you, Yankees
Buster_ESPN Folks in the NYY baseball ops are circumspect
about the failed Lee deal. “It’s not done until it’s done,” said one. “Life in the big city.”
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Like Lewin said
Cry me a bag of money
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 9, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He said this
in reply to TAG saying something about the Yankees struggling a couple of years ago
by TheHuntforRedOctober on Jul 9, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
it's in my sig
Lewin said it to TAG after the Yankees came out of the gate slowly back in 2006
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
FU Yankees!
This is very sweet for a number of reasons:
1. We were all hearing that we would have to part with Smoak AND Holland or Scheppers or Perez. WIN
2. We were all down on the Rangers this morning. Probably the lowest we felt all sseason with the Ryan/Greenberg announcement, and the loss yesterday and the JD opt out. What a recovery!
3. At 1pm today we all thought we had lost Lee to the Yanks. We snatched victory from the jaws of defeat!
4. It sounds like we went head to head vs the yanks and won. YES!
by WashsMirror on Jul 9, 2010 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wasn't upset about 'losing Lee'
given the price that was being talked about.
But feel great now since we gave away way less
More from Jeff Sullivan
Business is business, and nothing’s ever done until there’s ink down on paper. Deal with it.
I’m just so dreadfully sorry that you have to live with Javier Vazquez as your #5 starter. Life isn’t fair.
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
HAHA!!!
That is greatness.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said last night
Open for Suggestions
Shoot away guys…
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
Don't Smoak
verbally discourage his development in Seattle
by vfn on Jul 9, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Jump Off A Cliff, Lee
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Cliff Lee's Little Homie
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I'm putting the Rangers Seal of Approval on this
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Crush It
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
No Smoaking
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
by rlb02a on Jul 9, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ghostofJustinSmoak
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
heh...
that’s been done to death…
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
HA
I actually don’t think you should change it. Too much trouble. And every time we see you post, it’ll be like a memorial.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 9, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Tenacious Lee
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
You guys are golden
Are we sure that we can’t change our username?
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
You can
Email SBN tech support.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Thanks
Might do that
But I’m so happy right now, I’ll do a 12 hour poll for LSB to pick my new username, probably during the All Star Break
Keep those username suggestions coming
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
Cliffhanger
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
Beavan's Karmic justice
Let’s not forget our first glimpse of this guy as a Ranger. Wearing his “This is why I’m hot” t-shirt, telling the whole world he could start at the Major League level on day 1, because he was better than the current staff. Where he’s going now, he’s probably right.
Yes, but he is trying to make it sound like the Mariner's pitching is completely horrible...
and that Beavan is better than anybody on their staff. I am saying that they have at least one pitcher who is vastly superior to Beavan. Also, from what everyone has said, Beavan is basically the equivalent of Fister. So that is at least two pitchers on their staff that is either = to or > than Beavan.
Good deal
Didn’t give up Ogando, Holland, Schep, Perez, Beltre, Font. I’m confident Davis can play at the level Smoak has been playing at for the 2nd half with improved defense. Meanwhile, we will be the division winners and will likely be favored in the first round of the playoffs. As a slight bonus, we have a solid setup man for the next two years in Lowe (health permitting).
without a doubt he can
likely even better.
TAG said it best that this makes us better NOW at 1st as well. Though probably not in the long-term.
Doesn't Lee
have an ERA above 7 in our park?
Troy McClure: "Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy! If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!"
by stupidsexyflanders on Jul 9, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
tickets are probably selling fast
now that I think about it, I should get some right now
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
My favorite part about today?
Wild Card Anyone?
by Rev Halofan on Jul 9, 2010 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
by Smoak Some on Jul 9, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Yeah right.
Like they’ll beat whichever team from the East.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That's cold man
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Replace "welcome to Angrydome" with "We have Cliff Fucking Lee"
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
Press conference on The Fan right now
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
I'm not a huge fan of the deal
but Cliff Lee is a Ranger, and I think I’ll learn to live with that
Go Rice Owls!
Probably the best reaction.
Yeah, it’s Justin Smoak and Blake Beavan…but it’s Cliff Lee.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 9, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm coming down off the cliff.
Pun intended.
by philkid3 on Jul 9, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
same
i dont like giving smoak, but in reality he likely isnt going to be a teix type power hitting 1b. probably a 30hr type guy
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
not really what i meant
i mean, he isnt going to be a 40hr guy i dont think
im trying to talk myself down here, give me a break
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I never expected him to be Teixeira.
Just an above average first baseman for a long time with some All-Star caliber seasons and maybe some elite (a term from Joey Matches) seasons at his peakiest.
understood
kind of how i feel
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
He still could be
If he is good for him, but the idea of an actual TORP is so hot.
Plus, we’ll get 2 1sts for Lee if/when he leaves. I like the chances of those picks turning into useful players under the JD regime.
Perhaps I wasn't clear.
I still expect that from him. Just not for the Rangers.
If anything, his time in the Majors has instilled more confidence in those expectations.
Yeah I wouldn't debate Smoak's potential at all
I think if this deal cost Smoak and someone like Holland you have a definite reason to be uneasy. As is though? You take that to the bank. The first time you see him in Ranger red I think you’ll be completely over the anxiety.
I don't agree with this.
And I know how awesome Lee is.
But this is the thread where I talk about happy things.
2 first round picks for Lee
No guarantee of that. We for sure get one sandwich compensation pick, but no guarantee of a 1st
It's generally a crap shoot past 15-20
Dropping from 29-75 isn’t that big of a deal if the Rangers are able to spend some money. It’s still a good deal.
we get to draft
TWO power hitting 3B in the second round if it turns out to be 2nd round compensation. wooooo
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jul 9, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he'll be better than that.
Mariners got a good one. Playing in that park I don’t think he’ll hit 40 homers regularly, but even as slow as he is they’ll see a shit ton of doubles from him.
by Black Francis on Jul 9, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Post steroids (at least the super overt usage) very, very few dudes seem to be able to hit 40 consistently.
It’s really fucking hard.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Yup.
I really think people had unrealistic expectations for Smoak ~ or, possibly, developed them when he became part of the discussion as a player who could bring Lee in return.
Maybe the Rangers undervalued him ~ but it seems just as likely that Mariners overvalued him.
I will never like this trade unless. . .
A) The Rangers win the World Series.
B) Justin Smoak turns out to be crappy.
C) Chris Davis turns out to be at least solid.
But The more I think about it, the less defeated and angry I feel.
I'm with this. I don't like it but it's not the end of the world.
I’m still mad about losing Smoak to a division rival, but if A happens I will forget everything probably.
Really?
What if the Rangers win the ALCS, Chris Davis flames out again, Smoak turns out to be Lyle Overbay, and under new ownership, the Rangers fill first base with a guy who gives them 1.5-2 WAR on a regular basis, winning the World Series in 2012 with a stellar starting rotation and bullpen?
...
This expresses disagreement how, exactly?
Guy1: Booogity boogity boogity boo!
Guy2: Que?
Guy1: Exactly
I think I'll continue to do what I feel like.
I don’t really care about your little rage fits you have.
So I should concern myself with your opinion of me
Or why did you feel the need to interject into something that ended half an hour ago?
I point out people's stupidity
in the hopes they wont’ repeat it again.
More than that, I hate when stupid people argue with smart people on the board.
Ummmm...
you realize that a 1.5-2 WAR from our 1B would basically mean we have one of the worst in the league…right
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
No, Horns130, I was completely oblivious to the terms of my own hypothetical.
by Josh Garoon on Jul 9, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol
Shit that was funny.
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
At the end of the day.... Nolan Ryan will be the next control owner of the Texas Rangers Baseball Club.
by bigoil on Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you fucking posted it like it was fucking acceptable
in what world is that acceptable from 1B
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
more f-bombs for effect.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That's quality right there
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
But still the production of an average baseball player.
Last year was a stacked year for the AL at first base.
I think hoping for 30 a year is pushing it.
As I said in the other thread, I really see a switch-hitting Lyle Overbay with a better walk rate. Not a bad spot to be at all, but also not someone who we should let stop us from acquiring what could be a major piece of a playoff run
by vfn on Jul 9, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree AJM
The Press Conference is on, I’ll be posting comments from JD
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
So I tweeted "Suck it #Yankees'
and b/c of the hashtag, I’m getting pounded with douchebag Yankees fans. Way to change the stereotype, guys.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Jul 9, 2010 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
FSN has it
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
I'M PISSED OFF
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
you are? Why? This isn't the McGriddle Rangers anymore..
It’s the Cliff Lee Rangers DAMNIT!!
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
I liked Smoak
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I like competing in the play-offs.
I’ve heard it’s a real good feeling.
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
Ya, I wouldn't remember I was 8-11 when it last happened.
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Did JD just thank Hicks?
IT BURNS!!
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
doesn't matter
it’s the principle of the thing
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
RAZORBACKS!
Yessir!
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Turn off your phone, Nolan
or at least put it on vibrate
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
chances
for tonights game, hows the rain in DFW area
by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 9, 2010 5:05 PM CDT reply actions
not looking good at the moment
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
FSN has the Press Conference on.
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
From JD
As we’ve said all along, if we could upgrade our club, we’d do so….
Cliff was the #1 guy on our board we wanted to acquire…
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I don't really like it.
I don’t care that they gave up Beavan, but Smoak is a lot to give up. That’s what I think, anyway….that he’s going to be a hell of a player.
But, yeah, this deal has it’s upside. The Rangers now have no excuse not to go to the playoffs and win in the playoffs.
Wash wants to pitch him tomorrow
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Couple things come to mind
1. This is the appropriate stage for this deal, per Jamey’s Five Part Plan.
2. All the same, I’m looking forward to restocking the system with two picks apiece from Lee, Guerrero, and Frankie. Get the sale done, and set the scouts back to refilling the pipeline.
This deal is sustainable, and speaking of scouts…maybe they’re right, like AJM surmises, about Smoak’s abilities hitting lefthanded.
I will really miss C Wun.
Go Strangers.
"He bring a work ethic."
You think Wash actually believes Lee makes the rest of the pitchers better, or that he just needs something to say?
so very much this
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Actually, you know what's funny?
Jason Vargas partially attributes his success this year to Lee. Don’t remember exactly what it was but Lee helped him develop his cutter I think.
maybe he can help feldman remember how to pitch
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
It's a platitude dude, jeez
Quit fucking parsing throw away lines
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
But coaches, managers, and players
Use them all the time, so get used to it, I guess.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I think Cliff Lee is more likely to make the pitching staff better than Bengie Molina will.
From an intangible standpoint anyhow. I don’t know if that means much but yea.
Does Lee help Holland along?
How simliar are they in pitching atyle etc.?
But he's just mad because Montero was on the table.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Is it so crazy to think that Crane (or whoever comes in) with some fresh cash
and offers a big, fat deal after this season?
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I just cant wait next year, Smoak in All star game will be funny to watch
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
Mariners only representative, likely.
He’ll be a good player. He talks kinda funny and looks sorta weird, but he’ll be good.
by Black Francis on Jul 9, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Too soon
If nothing else, he needs to help them win games to keep them out of the top 5 draft picks
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Does
this facilitate Neftali getting a rotation spot try out during spring training after Cliff walks?
After the show I want Greg Oden to tuck us both in and tell us stories about the old days. - Will Ferrell
by JukeboxJoe on Jul 9, 2010 5:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I want to go to the game tomorrow so badly.
But the wife and kid will be out of town … and I need to study …
I guess I can watch and lust from home.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Damn you orange!
I want to go so badly!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I need to pass the Bar.
I can watch and wish.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The more I think about this, the more I'm surprised this didn't cost more.
I’m still feeling it out, but I think I’m pretty happy with this deal.
Exactly what I'm thinking.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep...
I was paralyzed when I heard Smoak’s name. But overall, this deal is pretty fucking great.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
At one point I heard Smoak, Holland and others on the radio
and I about drove into a tree.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
The ticket did the same shit with the Halladay deal last year.
Were talking like it was done that Holland++ were going there.
Can't fucking wait........
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by IrishP1 on Jul 9, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll miss Smoak and Beavan
And have a feeling that they’ll hurt us when we play seattle these next six years. However, the good news is that we’ll get a supplemental and a first-round pick when Lee signs with the Yankees next season. If Vladdy signs elsewhere too, we’ll have five first-day picks to restock our system a bit. Hopefully we get a future smoak or beavan with one of those cliff lee picks.
by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Jul 9, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
if smoak perform like Guerrero as Angel, I will enjoy every single hit again and again..and Daniels will watch too...
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
ok, our future at 1st base?
Davis who can hit righties better than smoak lefties?
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
Fucking suck
that is what our 1B future is
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Shouldn't you be on LoL by now?
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Get the fuck over it, douche.
It’s done.
Smoak is gone. Davis is back.
If you actually support the Rangers, you’ll shut the fuck up and realize we just got one of the top 3 pitchers in the American League.
When we take down the Yankees in the postseason with Lee winning 2 of 5 or 3 of 7 games, this thread is going to crucify you.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perfect game
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
You shut the fuck up.
You don’t ever get to cheer for Lee. Ever.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
by TxStCa on Jul 9, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go fuck yourself
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Alright...
Horns. I know you’re doing your thing where you curse a lot and overact, but if you can’t be civil with the people here and just resort to insulting everyone because you’re mad, you’re going to get temp banned.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit...
truth be told, i wish you had given me like a 24 hour ban right when this happened….i couldve just walked away more peacefully
as i said in another post, im a reactionary douche….i apologize for it, but it is what it is…or in the words of wash…he do what he do
but as i said, im not as mad as i previously was…Cliff Lee is fucking awesome…we have tons of pitchers to replace Beavan and as awesome as Smoak is, his ceiling isnt unbelievably high
it still hurts, but we got fucking Cliff Lee, and ill trust JD and co to find someone to play 1B
that said, if people are going to tell me to fuck off when im targeting my anger and what not at the trade itself, you better fucking bet ill be a mean fucking son of a bitch
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Correction
Smoak that in….
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
JD is so Rico Suave.
Please don’t go.
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't goooooo
I’m beggin’ to stay.
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige
by Suicide Prince on Jul 9, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
Sounds about right
This reminds me a lot of LoL during the Erik Bedard saga
it will end with Adam being really happy about Lee and us forgetting about the long term repercussions (at least briefly)
You have to pay to get an ace, even if you're only renting that ace.
We’ll fill 1b some other way. It’ll work out. The sky isn’t falling.
JD was asked
“Given your current financial situation, do you expect a backlash from other GMs around the league?”
He replied: “I imagine there will be some unnamed sources out there, but I don’t expect many phone calls.”
Heh.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Jul 9, 2010 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
That is a damn nice response. Damn nice.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
lee lee lee lee lee lee
We’re talking fucking Lee!!!!!
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
He's talking about doing some dirty stuff to you, man...
May wanna watch your back.
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige
by Suicide Prince on Jul 9, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it possible to .gif that Washington fist pump?
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
Just got home from work...couldn't wait to see the reaction...
I’m right there with you….this is a tough move but one that had to be made if they are going for it…they didn’t touch Holland, Sheppers or Perez…that’s huge…
Awesome, move…can’t wait for the game tomorrow.
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions
Now...the real ?
How in the world do we resign him?
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jul 9, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions
We don't
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
the
sale of this team to finally go through
by icouldusesomebaseball on Jul 9, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
UNSECURED LOANS
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't worry about that right now...
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
we harvest Hick's organs on the black market.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
We win a WS, why wouldn't he want to stay?
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 9, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't win.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Better not to think about that.
Live in the moment.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
My reaction to the trade
Thanks LL
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
by Smoak Some on Jul 9, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
You're a woman?
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
she ended up with a giant bag of schwag too
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I wonder what the fuck
is going on here?
SS, any context?
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
Ichiro reached over to catch a foul ball and grabbed her leg for support as he was leaning over the rail.
She was excited saying “He touched me!” Ichiro elbowed her in the face as well as coping a feel on her thigh as he was trying to get support. It was a pretty humorous 10 seconds…
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
She is kind of cute
And it looks like if you could convince her you’re a celeb she would put out easy.
THen later they brought her a big bag of mariners/ichiro stuff
autographed ball, tshirts , etc
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
"I have to call my mom"
so funny.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
From what I can gather
“He touched me!”
“Oh my God!”
“Oh my God!”
“I have to call my Mom!”
Serenity now, insanity later.
-Lloyd Braun
by Kevin McBrayer on Jul 9, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright...
I’m off to do naked cartwheels. You’ll me on the news.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
during the riots?
good luck.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
They'll think he's insane and leave him alone...
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
like Bruce Willis in Harlem in Die Hard 3 with that sandwich board, right?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
"In the middle of the riots there is a bearded man doing cartwheels
Is he racist, or just really happy?"
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jul 9, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too bad he can't start for Feldman tonight
i have mixed feelings on all this, very glad to get him, but i hope that Smoak does not torture us for years to come, he may become the new Vlad against us for many years, time will tell
I don't think they're getting that game in tonight.
call it a hunch.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
monsoon.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
yeah, the skies have opened up like mad here
but it’s moving through fast… they may get the game off tonight, but after a probable delay
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
i think it's a fair trade
You gotta realize that as much as fans want to stay the course, the guys in the clubhouse have to be super psyched right now.
Lee instantly becomes the best starter we’ve had since I’ve been following this team.
but the clubhouse guys just said great
and probably just as un emotional as a lower case great can communicate.
At least if you believe the presser
hmmm
I think really it comes down to whether or not Chris Davis hit major league pitching.
I thought it’d take a third big name along with Smoak/Beavan. This is better than I thought.
Jeff Sullivan's email to me
Enjoy Lee. Seriously. Just sit back and enjoy him. He is unlike any other pitcher I’ve ever seen.
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 9, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 11 recs
The more time that passes...
the more excited I’m getting about this…and it’s only been two hours….
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I have only one question. And it's a legitimate one.
Can he handle the Texas heat/humidity?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
It worries me that
any time he’s asked about Texas that’s the first thing he brings up.
“It’s hot”
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
Jesus...
I just felt dizzy.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously.
You get this, plus the added benefit of your team contending for a playoff spot.
I can only dream of what that’s going to feel like.
Note to FO, Washington and Maddux
Please make sure to keep Harden 300 feet from Lee at all times. The last thing we need for him to do is develop a case of Hardenitis.
by casew on Jul 9, 2010 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Harden can develop a case of Lee-itis...
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you imagine
Lee, Colby, CJ, Holland, and Harden pitching like should be pitching?
I can’t. My fuckin’ head would explode!
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
CJ
Can we really expect much from him towards the end of this season? I know he is in great shape, but the increase in innings has to take a toll at some point.
I'm definitely worried about that
Also, I forgot about Hunter.
Penis. Hard. For. Pitching.
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
How about this....
What if Lee is able to heal Harden with his touch, and Harden become Lee 2.0
I can dream…
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
Like ET?
I bet that giant blade in Lee’s elbow lights up and heals injured pitchers.
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Jul 9, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
NOooooooo...
I knew if I went anywhere this shit would happen.
I go out to run an errand and Smoak is gone.
Fuck.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
No you went to run an errand and Lee is here.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jul 9, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm excited that Lee is a Ranger...
I really am.
But I didn’t want it to come at the expense of Smoak. I really see him as a difference maker at 1B for a long time.
The rest of the deal is great, Beavan is meh. No other big prospects in the deal.
I just want Smoak back.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
The best thing about this trade
is we improve something that’s been our biggest weakness for countless years, and we do it at a time when we have other pieces in the rotation that are better than some of the pitchers we’ve had in a while. This is how you win (I think).
I hope so...
I can say right now though that I will not be happy with anything less than winning the whole fucking thing now.
The Rangers just gave up a huge part of heir future. I want a WS title. Nothing less will do.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
heh
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee
I like this trade better than throwing away Maine for a spare like Molina. I don’t like trading Smoak, but I don’t think trading Beaven will hurt us, and we are going to need space on the 40 anyway this offseason.
--Brian
we never had John Maine
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
Maybe Lee WANTED to pitch to Molina
And not the other spares they had.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
he wanted a big target behind the plate?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Lee threw to Rob Johnson.
Think about that for a second. Rob Johnson can’t catch pitches that move.
I was totally joking, but you raise a valid point
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
haha
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
A couple of things...
I know this sounds weird and unbelievable but when I work up today the first thought in my head as my mind rebooted was: “We’re getting Cliff Lee today.” I swear to God.
Also from Yahoo’s Big League Stew:
Boy, if I had a nickel for every time the Texas Rangers swooped in and stole an ace away from the New York Yankees, I … wouldn’t be a very rich man.
And lastly, LSJ is going to HATE THIS TRADE and that makes it even better.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No...
It’s true Mike E. It’s true.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
About anything?
Yes, yes you are correct.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Bless you and your premonitions...
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Just got banned at Halos Heaven
It was worth it.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
by RangerFloppy on Jul 9, 2010 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
HAHA!!
Are they sad pandas?
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Worst part is
I wasn’t even being very troll like. Was using good grammar, spelling, not being insulting. Just making sure they knew that we were going to win the division for the next 4 years
"Support the Dutch Oven"
Well
Hopefully those guys get here and produce the way we expect. But it’s not like this trade really reinforces your point.
Just saying you didn't need to do what you did
And would have been better if you were actually making a good point
Do what I did?
It’s the interwebs, kiss my ass. It’s not like I lit Matsui’s hair on fire.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
You should have
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Ok, internet boy
eat a bag of dicks, you’re not as cool as you think you are. Don’t fuck up anymore in your stupid gameday job
yeh I just read all of that, I enjoyed it!!!
I haven't seen San Francisco fans celebrate like this since the last ghey pride event.
I can't wait for the day when Bengie Molina is a 500 lb. retiree wearing depends and Michael Main is anchoring the Giants rotation. What a special several years that will be!!
I didn't even do anything!
Don’t sigh me, Garoon. It’s not my fault WI Halofan is a total cocksmoke.
"Support the Dutch Oven"
Dude
You showed up over there with a gigantic white flag jpg and suggested they start waiving it…what did you think was going to happen?
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige
by Suicide Prince on Jul 9, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
That I would get banned.
Just figured with their tagline “Halos Heaven – Your Angels Blog. Angels Baseball Fans. We Fly Flags, We Take No Mess.” I would assist in helping them choose an applicable flag to fly
"Support the Dutch Oven"
Don't get me wrong, I laughed
but I was surprised you weren’t banned immediately. You got quite a few responses first.
"Just take the ball and throw it where you want to. Throw strikes. Home plate don't move." - Satchel Paige
by Suicide Prince on Jul 9, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Man I'm watching the Mavs summer league team get whooped
flip over to see whats going on in espndallas.com and Cliff Lee is right up there, took me at least a minute to realize what had happened……. and it was the best thing that could’ve happened, found who we gave up and was shocked to see only 1 top tier prospect given up
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jul 9, 2010 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
and more than the phillies did
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
You can't
Amaro does jackassings.
Markets do changings.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Going to the game with my brother-in-law
Section 28.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Tomorrow. For Lee.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
So excited CD got called up I bought 6 tix to see him play. Wearing my jersey too <3
Replace Jim Knox
According to Warsh
He could play tonight.
If there is a game.
by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Jul 9, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Just got tix
gonna enjoy this.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
ah...not much...
just another day in Angrydome
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Guck You!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
heh...
forgot to hit the humor/sarcasm key before posting
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I mistyped, thought it was funnier, and left it
:)
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yep,
They’re starting Arias at first again tonight.
WTF?!?
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
um,
it was a joke.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
daniels
Seriously what daniels did was amazing. We are broke. Noone knows how we pay bills and we get Cliff Freakin Lee one of the best lefties in baseball. There is so much good with this trade its unreal. Scheppers stays. Ogando stays. Holland , he stays. Perez, he stays too. You sure we are talking about Cliff Freakin Lee. Yeah. It costs you a first baseman who yeah is good but may or may not be better than Davis Bleavan , not scheppers or Perez or Holland and depth. and yeah we also get money and a guy is decent once he is healthy and may have sone value. I am amzed and thrilled anyone could pull this off. ALL contenders will be pissed and they will ask how the rangers got Cliff Freakin Lee while they were bankrupt. While I would love a willingham or a player better than Molina , this baseball team is the best we have ever seem here given its defense and pitching. and now we add Cliff Freakin Lee
I agree with everything but
Smoak WILL be better than Davis, you can take that to the bank.
And mankind is naught but a single nation - Qu'ran 2:213
Fully armed and operational............
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by IrishP1 on Jul 9, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
I like the thought, but it needs work.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
quick job
I’ll tweak it later.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
stop by my nipples and give them a whirl too
if you don’t mind.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Jul 9, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BTW, Wash said if Davis made it in tonight and was ready, he's going to play.
How quickly can you get from OKC to Arlington? 4 hours?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Somebody has to have a personal helicopter or plane.
As much as I don’t like Davis….He is still better than cockroach.
I guess so.
I hate having Arias as our first baseman. I hate it.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it's just peaches agreeing with f'ing Aggies around here, too.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still don't understand why Arias is on this team
playoff teams don’t have guys like Arias as a backup 1B
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
'Bout 2.5 hours to OKC for me
I drive kinda fast..
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Arlington is 3.5
and it depends on when he knew, and traffic
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I'm sure they called him as soon as the trade was done.
Fuck it, send Hicks’ helicopter to go get him.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
There was a 415 AA flight
If they got it done around then then they obviously internally knew it was a chance well before then.
Could’ve taken that flight.
Replace Jim Knox
Never mind
That flight is delayed – Flights delayed/grounded due to rain. He’ll be coming by ground most likely unless private plane got clearance.
Replace Jim Knox
There is no fucking way Hick signs off for a private plane,
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
Have you ever been on 35 between Round Rock and Arlington?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Bring him up 377 through Hico.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I might mean 281
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
our losses
Beavan Lueke and Lawsone aren’t a big loss in this deal. Beavan as a back of the rotation guy is easily replaceable with our system. I still like Daniel Gutz more than Beavan. Lueke — replaceable reliever prospect and Lawson goes without saying.
Smoak hurts, but we do have a few guys that could come through in the near future…ie, Davis, Moreland, Tracy. Also, 1B is usually one of the easier positions to fill via FA.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
The guys on MLB radio
said we could bring up Salty to platoon with CD
by BEW on Jul 9, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
we haven't had money
and we’ve had the hope that our prospects would step up, which hasn’t exactly happened
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
We had the money
There was just nobody good that wanted to sign here (either because they didn’t want to or because there was nobody good)
Exactly
during the whole time we’ve had promising guys at the position in the minors and needed to upgrade pitching more than firstbase. Easier to fill now because, unless Davis proves ready, it looks like a stable position for a few years.
I hate it when I misspell Teixeira.
But yeah: After 2007? Maybe, but probably not so much a need, with Chris Davis on the horizon and the team in rebuilding mode after trading Teixeira away. After 2008? Not after the half-season Davis had. After 2009? Not with hopes for Davis and Smoak on the horizon.
But how many FA 1B are there?
Doesn’t seem like there are nearly enough on the market and we have a suspect history of signing position players to fill needs
Well, for 2011, setting aside players with options, Cot's has:
Adam Dunn WAS
Lance Berkman HOU *
Wes Helms FLA
Jason Giambi COL
Paul Konerko CWS
Derrek Lee CHC
Lyle Overbay TOR
Carlos Pena TB
Dunn
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Out of the box... Could Johnny Damon play 1b?
I like the idea of his bat 2nd behind Andrus.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
shouldn't we just try Davis at 1B first?
:)
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I've said something similar...
Get Beltre for third, move Face to DH next year.
I don’t know if he could handle first base. I don’t see him extending and scooping.
by vfn on Jul 9, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Beltre is getting up there
and would be pretty expensive, especially after we resign Lee. :)
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
But we have already moved poor Mr. Face
so many times. He has already sacrificed so much….we can’t ask him to move again, can we? Don’t you know he’s a gold glover?
I will not take this bait. I will not take this bait.
I will not take this bait. I will not take this bait. I will not take this bait. I will not take this bait…
I see you
Your mouth is open.
You’re inches away from the bait.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Davis is the best of the group
but I still like Morelands bat, and Tracy has good power with 17 HRs this year. The point is, though, that we still have some depth in AAA at the position.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Beavan, Lawson and Lueke seem worth the draft picks, money and a shot at getting Cliff lee to me.
I could be wrong.
Agreed.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
OH YEAH!!!
6 ALL STARS BITCHEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
by Rodney on Jul 9, 2010 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 11 recs
JUST ANOTHER WAY TO SAY
FUCK YOU YANKEES!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
JUST ANOTHER WAY TO SAY
FUCK YOU YANKEES!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I should not have been the first rec.
by philkid3 on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
x
I hope we abuse the hell out of lees ARM before the yanks sign him
USA
by Longhorn on Jul 9, 2010 5:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I love the fact that the yankees got dicked on this.
LOVE IT!
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Not really.
Yankees didn’t have to part with their best prospect.
He’s not going to one of their main rivals.
He knows the Yankees want his junk so he’s very likely to become a free agent.
It definitely doesn’t put the Rangers over the top as favorites to win the AL.
Yankees only pay for his services with money, not prospects too.
I’m pretty happy with this chain of events
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Your FO doesn't seem to share your opinion.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
also
I kinda like looking at this as smoak, beav, leuke,lawson for lee, lowe, and Chris Davis
USA
by Longhorn on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Phillie's fan here
Just wanna congratulate the Texas Rangers and their fans.Cliff is a classy dude and as we all know he is a great pitcher.Thank God he is not going to the Yankees.
by Utley26Phan on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
this....
that team can go choke on its money bags
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
All the best to Utley
Hope he gets healthy soon
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
by Smoak Some on Jul 9, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m pretty sure his death is being planned right about now.It would have been worse if he ended up with the Yankees.He was the only pitcher who beat them last year in the WS.
Space bar
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
More happy things.
Colby Lewis, is a bonified TORP so far this season, is now our No. 2.
Spooge.
by philkid3 on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
This rotation would be fucking stupid if he could pitch how he's capable of.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Holland could make it so even without him.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
+1
CJ as our #3
TH as our #4
I’m not forgetting Feldman
and imagine if Harden
can come back and return to form in the second half. that would be nice. Of course, I’m not holding my breath
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Feldman's performance this year is AWESOME to get from your No. 5.
If he gets put somewhere else and Holland pitches like I expect. . .
9th best ERA in MLB, including Feldman
And yes, I’m using ERA b/c I think their FIP is outta wack due to superior defense.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Only thing i would say about that
if our D makes our pitchers better by making more plays behind them it is something to keep in mind by assuming our FIP will always be higher, but that is a bit of a reach and probably isnt that heavy of an influence
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
I can't read all the comments and thread right now
Have they mentioned if we will start him tomorrow? God I hope so, Harrison vs Lee is just a bit of a difference.
Hey goET.
I’m going to that game.
Envy me.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Over Harrison!?!?!?
I can’t even do that with a straight face.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
It's going to be so awesome when Cliff Lee shows up in the 6th inning today
and everyone in the dugout is teaching him upnucks and such
"Diving stab by Andrus, gets up, throws.... GOT HIM!!! An unbelievable play! From short left field!"
-Eric Nadel on 5/17/10
Next on the agenda...
Lifetime contract for JD.
Goddamn, Cliff Lee is a Texas Ranger! Good day. Very good day.
Didn't sell the farm to get him.
And seems like we can rely on the front office to restock the part of the farm we did sell.
And we get Cliff Lee.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 9, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
tomorrow is going to be a sellout at the game
Michael Young day for the commoners. Cliff Lee for everyone
"Diving stab by Andrus, gets up, throws.... GOT HIM!!! An unbelievable play! From short left field!"
-Eric Nadel on 5/17/10
Completely forgot it was Youngs recognition day
Gonna be an amazing game
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Team disrepects his recognition day, he's gonna take this as a slight for sure.
Hissy fit/trade demand in 5… 4… 3… 2… 1….
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Nah, instead of a pickup truck or a shiny convertable
He gets the BEST FUCKING PITCHER IN THE AL.
Yes, the Rangers love MY very, very much.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Too bad that pitcher has to pitch with Young's defense at third
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
There was discussion on the radio that his starts could be near sellouts every time
wouldnt surprise me
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
That'd actually surprise me times a billion.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah it does
BUt I don’t think you can discount increased attendance
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I like this deal. A lot.
Sucks giving up Smoak and C-Wun but had to give someone up.
"No nuts, no glory"
question
Chris Davis is in Round Rock right now, isn’t he?
"Diving stab by Andrus, gets up, throws.... GOT HIM!!! An unbelievable play! From short left field!"
-Eric Nadel on 5/17/10
2.5 hours at the most from Arlington.
I’ve done that drive a hundred times.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think what we were all worried about
is that the whole ownership thing was going to completely hinder us from making a big move. Well WE MADE IT, we don’t have to worry about what could have happened. Now, all we have to do is let this thing play out. God willing, this damn ownership mess will be settled by the start of next season. This is great.
LEE
MENO, I’M OK WITH THIS IF THEY’LL GIVE LEE FELDMANS SPOT!
Closers are over-rated!
by Greybeard131 on Jul 9, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
well
once Holland is back – Feldman is gone. I gotta wonder what happens with Hunter when Harden is back though, simply because of how much we are paying him.
Doubt it
They are probably attached to the whole Opening Day Starter thing…maybe a DL, but I doubt they send him to the bullpen quite yet.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Best part?
What might happen to the roto when Harden and Holland are able to come back…
We might be rid of Feldman.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Long Reliever I hope...
…probably DL or some such shennanigans.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
So
Harden and Holland are coming back to the rotation soon.
Lee, Lewis, Wilson, ????
Does Hunter get bumped for Holland? I assume Harden goes back into the rotation, right?
I imagine Hunter stays...
if he keeps pitching as well as he has
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see how you bump Hunter right now.
Honestly, I think they bring Harden back first and give Holland a longer rehab assignment.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
How could he not?
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Among other obvious things
I think this trade sends a message — we’re in this thing to win it, so get your shit together.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Man I'd put Holland in the pen for the stretch run
I want the best talent in Arlington for the 2nd half
by thedudeabides on Jul 9, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Feldman screws the pooch tonight, he gets bumped.
Simple as that. Hunter’s not going anywhere.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Jul 9, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless the team can be absolutely certain Harden is going something differently that can make him at least close to what he was last year. . .
. . . I’d rather go with Hunter.
I imagine it would be a pretty easy evaluation process.
Oh! You’re still throwing mid-80’s with terrible command? OK!
by LiamP on Jul 9, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The first would be the "first start back from the DL" start.
The second would be the “OK, let’s see what you’ve really got” start.
The third would be the “Last chance, bucko” start.
indeed...
It’s Time!
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, this means we DON'T face Cliff Lee maybe, what, 3 times in the 2nd half?
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
and the Angels still have too...
but now it is against the team they are chasing…LMAO!
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I am just thankful Daniels didn't have to include Arias in the trade.
It would of been awfully frightening not having a legit back up infielder to play against tough lefties.
God I wish we could have convinced them to take him.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking at the schedule right now
Lee will pitch tomorrow. If we start him the first game back from the break (in Boston), his next start would then be….
Angels, at Home, on the 25th.
In other words, Newberg Night
Anyone willing to sell their ticket?
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
Opps
Forgot a Detroit start in the middle of that
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
you need to change your name
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking at the radar...
we are looking at a delay tonight for sure
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:44 PM CDT reply actions
Ugh
A caller on the Ticket just called in to bitch because “Beavan is the next Cliff Lee and we just gave him away.”
That is interesting
Amazing how he found a reason to bitch and it was for completely the wrong reason
"Your Front Office was so preoccupied with whether or not they could
they didn’t stop to think if they should."
/horns130
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
There’s something to complain about with this trade, but I’m seeing a startling number of complaints that are just retarded.
Corby's gone...
they needed some comedy relief
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jul 9, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Horns...
found the number to the ticket apparently.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
rec rec rec
"Fuck Tom Hicks. There is no aspect of my baseball universe that man hasn't shit on."
"A win is a win. Kinda like banging a hogger on Spring Break. You’re glad hardly anybody saw you do it but at the end of the day you got laid."-- Josey Wales
by TooLegitToQuit on Jul 9, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That hurt GoET...
even i never went that far
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
C-Wun
can’t miss bats in AA. He’s been better this year, which makes it an opportune time to sell high.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Exactly.
The guy is going to get shelled in the big leagues unless he adds a pitch or some MPH to that straight FB.
This is similar to a text I got
From a guy who has sent bragging texts after the Yankees won, the Lakers won, and UT was doing it’s nonsense.
He said that he can’t believe the Rangers gave up 2 first round picks for Lee, that Lee especially could come back to haunt the Rangers.
Angry Text Replies. Rah.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Now we know why...
gbakermariners Zduriencik just told me, in answer to my press
conference question, that Texas put Smoak on the table for first time today.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Yeah, but I like knowing the process.
I’d love to know the offer before today.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
we were hoping we could do it without him....
but it just wasnt going to be possible.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Why did we want Lowe?
jonmorosi Sources say the #Rangers are getting close to $2.5M from #Mariners. Remember, they have to pay Mark Lowe, too. #MLB
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
he is on the DL
what is his injury?
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
OK....
Im going to stop being so pissed for a while
We did get Cliff fucking Lee, which is pretty awesome.
We also only gave up 1 big time prospect with smoak although i do still love beavan.
I also think the downside to this is way higher than the upside, since the only upside imo is us winning the WS (or at least making it), but the downside is us flaming out in the 1st round, Smoak mashing for 6 years, Beavan continuing to improve and becoming a #2.
But that said, we have Cliff fucking Lee, and our chances to win it all just improved, which is awesome, and we get to watch Cliff Lee.
Sorry for being so angry and reactionary, but that is just the way I am…and i would still ultimately side on the side that says not to do this deal….
Yay for Cliff Lee…its going to be awesome to watch him pitch tomorrow
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
I also intended to add...
that we have tons of pitchers that can replace Beavan, so that doesnt really hurt, but i still have no clue who will replace Smoak
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Yeah, I wish they had included some other pitchers
Instead of Smoak, just because of the depth there. Losing Beavan doesn’t even make me blink when the following pitchers will all be here in 2011:
Lewis
Wilson
Holland
Hunter
Feldman
Scheppers
OBeltre
Feliz
Harrison
Perez
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
No doubt
we have plenty of pitching depth, and i wouldnt mind as much except for the fact that we will have to face him in the coming years
but what really should irk everyone is that we sold 2 first round pitchers…we sold them b/c of tom hicks…
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
Thanks...
I didn’t want to call you out and you have every right to be upset if you don’t like this trade, but just calling people morons and such isn’t the best way to go about it.
And, CLIFF LEE! We can be excited about that.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair to me
my first bitching was at the trade…
then people started calling me out and i defended myself in an overly aggressive manner
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
No doubt Smoak and Beaven isn't a cheap price
Do both of those guys hit their upper ceiling? Maybe, maybe not.
Losing a patient hitter who is bound for some better luck like Smoak definitely stings though, but Cliff Lee at the top of this rotation + a chance for the young kids to see how it’s done in the rotation. I can’t hate this trade
for this year anyway
it’ll be fun to watch Smoak bat against Lee
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I've cooled off a little.
And this is where I’m at now too.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
OT: Gilbert's reaction to Lebron leaving has been epic.
Slashed the Fathead Lebron price to the year that Benedict Arnold was born.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
He owns Fathead.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm tempted to buy one
"Hell's frozen over, Pigs are flying! The Saints have won the Super Bowl"
Shreveport Captains in LSB H2H Fantasy League
I don’t think that jd is done. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised id he managed to bring in Lance Berkman or Dunn from the Nationals. We didn’t spend any significant money on this deal so why couldn’t he bring in a real 1st baseman? We have more pieces to move, incuding the never was Chris Davis. John Daniels is the FUCKING MAN!!!!
how do you plan on us getting either of them
Dunn is AWFUL defensively. Berkman is on the steep decline. We would probably have to give up more than most people here could stomach if we were to go after either of them.
he did say that...
we used up most of our availble money
we did take on some money…..1.5 or something
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I would like a cheap RH bench bat....
that can play the OF or 1B.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
don't like it
but i’m sure that’ll change when lee gets a couple nice starts under his belt. i already miss smoak…please davis please be able to hit
I'm pretty excited to CD again
Sure hes not as good as Smoak, but I have a soft spot for CD. Even if we didn’t need him he’d be one of the players I want to succeed the most… of course now we really do need him to deliver.
it would be easy to fix that anyway
just put Hamilton in the 4 hole and Vladdy behind him. People can try to pitch around Vlad and it wouldn’t matter
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
why is that punishing?
4 or 5 doesn’t matter. heck put hamilton as the number 3 and keep vlad at 4, damn
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I've always loved Davis more than Smoak.
I’ll be more excited if he figures it out than I ever would have been about Smoak.
It’s just that I’m worried it’s not going to happen.
Agree
I just have this belief that CD figures it out like Nellie did
by thedudeabides on Jul 9, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
This will certainly hurt less if Davis hits like he has been in AAA
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I thought I was alone
seems they love to slam Davis here. Though he has in my opinion done nothing to deserve it (other than the K’s seems a fixable thing)
I love the defensive ability he brings at either corner, and he is younger than Smoak, is he not.
by MasterOfPuppets on Jul 9, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
he is not younger than Smoak
and i don’t know about his defensive ability at third…that is a bit of a stretch.
My Bad
It’s Smoak who is 8 mos. younger. still he is only 24.
As for 3B defense I remember him being nearly flawless for a stretch there ’08 having not played there for several years.
I would IMHO consider him an upgrade over Young defensively.
by MasterOfPuppets on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Out of pocket all day and... HOLY FUCK ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, INTERNET? YOU COULDN'T HAVE WARNED ME SOMEHOW? I ALMOST FUCKING DID DYINGS
Fucking C-Wun… Why did we have to inculde C-Wun?
I fucking love C-Wun.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The Latin Wind says shit your stupid ugly Froggy face.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Wow, I didn't think it'd be possible to hate you anymore.
And then you go and do something like this and I honest to penis am going to wish dyings on you every single night for the rest of my life.
The Latin Wind is the perfectest nickname in the history of ever.
Bleier’s is too long.
It’s nice and all, but it’s behind the Asian Kid in my estimation.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
The only problem with it is it's not something you really want to shout at games.
Most of Asian dudes I’ve known would think it’s fucking hilarious, but racial stereotypes still aren’t good shouting material even if they’re playing on the positive aspects of said stereotypes.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Wrong
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
No
It is.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jul 10, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
No, I love the walk rate so fucking hard.
I also like the idea of a big cocky badass in the rotation… even if he’s not exactly a flamethrower.
I was honest to penis much more upset to learn about C-Wun being in the deal than I was Smoak. Don’t get me wrong, mancrush or no mancrush, Smoak is the far better prospect, but when I saw we’d traded for Lee I knew we’d have to give up one of Der-Hol/Pear-ez/Scheppers/Smoak, so I was prepared for that. Seeing C-Wun’s name as one of the 3 “other players” was the part that hit me so fucking hard.
Fucking ass shit.
Fuck. Ing.
Ass.
Shit.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Heh.
We share the same reaction for completely different reasons.
I... don't know what that means.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
I don't mind losing Beavan
Figured the Rangers had more sense than to deal Smoak.
Me fucking too.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
I did yelpings in pain... but mainly when I saw we'd done a deal for Lee, Smoak is the guy I'd've most liked to've seen go out of the big four.
I can’t say I’m a fan of this deal at all, though.
I mean, CLIFF FUCKING LEE!!!
But Smoak and C-Wun… Fuck.
This is gonna come back and do bitings on our man-butts for fucking years.
Fucking fuckedy fuck, man.
But… Jeez, Cliff fucking Lee.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Really?
Smoak ahead of Scheppers?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yah.
Think about it… who costs more to replace via FA… a #2 starter, or really good non-superstar 1b?
Lackey / AJ Burnett / Dempster vs. Dunn / Glaus / Laroche.
I’m thinking about this year and the next few for this team specifically.
In the abstract I like Smoak slightly more in terms of overall prospectiness.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with this
Scheppers’ ceiling is higher and he’s the more rare quantity to me.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Wow, you have a massive, massive mancrush on C-Wun.
I mean, I knew it was big, but wow: that’s massive.
Massive like a huge green T-Rex named “Josh Garoon.”
by Josh Garoon on Jul 9, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
DO HAPPYINGS, DIRK!
CLIFF FUCKING LEE!
Penis?
PENIS!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think that this is the perfect way...
to use C-Wun.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damnings on you.
I fucking love C-Wun.
I fucking love C-Wun so hard.
Fucking butt shit.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Im just sad that I never got to call him C-Wun to his face
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
You can do it...
now and make it an insult.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Earlier in the AA season
He was charting a few rows in front of my seats, but I couldn’t work up the nerve to go up to him and say “whats up c-wun”
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
He's gigantic and you're a teenie tiny ladyboy.
Of course you couldn’t.
I believe you 100%.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish we lived in that Simpsons world where it rained doughnuts
And in a world where the Rangers had an ace. Wait…
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 9, 2010 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
Won't it be great if, given the obvious delayed start, to see Davis jog out to 1B?
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
i love this guy....
I want to sit next to him for the playoffs.
Shit is about to get real.
by death of the cool on Jul 9, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
White Sox board on resigning Lee
Texas can’t afford him. They filed bancruptcy papers so they could spread out payments to A-Rod and Young. They are in a world of hurt financially. They are in “Win Now!” mode. Expect them to do a Florida Marlin like fire sale at season’s end.
they wish
"Diving stab by Andrus, gets up, throws.... GOT HIM!!! An unbelievable play! From short left field!"
-Eric Nadel on 5/17/10
by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 9, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
haha...
Oh other team’s fan’s perspectives.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Who the hell would the FO firesale?
Kinsler and Young are the only guys really scheduled to make any money. Nobody would trade for Young’s salary.
They would if we kicked in M-Pear and Fleas.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Kenny Williams is still alive right?
Because I can think of 1 team that damn sure would.
Maybe we should give it some consideration.
Mike Olt is bound to be ready by next season. I will to a Danks for Young deal.
DAMN YOU UVERSE!
Someone tell us what he says.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he said
1. sad to leave seattle right when the weather is getting nice
2. wants to come to texas, help us win and be one of the guys
3. wishes things would have turned out differently, if you would have asked him in spring training they wouldn’t be in this position right now, loves seattle teammates and their fans
4. glad to help a first place team get to where they want to be
LEE on MLBN
Why do some people think aquariums are cruel? The fish love it there! They told me. They said, "Truthfully Rich, it's fuckin awesome. There's no predators. No nets, no pollution. It's like the ocean without all the bullshit." -Richard Jeni
YOU HAVE SOME DEEP INSIGHTS
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
At the end of the day.... Nolan Ryan will be the next control owner of the Texas Rangers Baseball Club.
by bigoil on Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Person on MLBN mentioned how Rangers will have a Jet waiting for Lee after his conference
to get him there quickly. Then the other guy joked about the finances and said probably a crop duster…heh.
Yeah, that's a dick thing to say.
But I couldn’t help myself. I laughed.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
There's one thing I love above all else from pitchers: not walking people.
Cliff Lee may be my new God.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Oh well aren't you just a fungi.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just saying, how many seasons as a Ranger's fan...
have they not had at least one guy who walked a lot of batters? I will admit, it pisses me off as well.
that is beavan too though
which is why i love him
Fuck you JD
Smoak is going to walk 9,933,344 times in his career for seattle, half of those against us....and Beavan is going to walk 0 batters in his entire career
Fuck you JD
How many of y'all....
Have unfollowed Josh Lueke on Twitter?
Matt (Denver, CO): Congratulations, I heard you won a gold glove!
Klaw (1:18 PM) : Thanks, I had a great year at the plate!
I think Jason Heyward is ready to be promoted to the AL. He’s mastered the NL - Matthew Carruth
Dan Plesac
Cliff Lee just gamed 21 1/2 games in the standings! He went from a team 16 back to a team that’s 5 1/2 up!
Um. . .
Another sighting of
BigSteveMath™
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was annoyed no one called him out on it.
TV would be better if idiots were made out to be idiots when they’re idiotic.
What did he say?
I’m serious, what am I missing?
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Nevermind I get it now.
You’re right. I’m not the best at math either if you couldn’t tell, lol.
Pitching coach Mike Maddux on Darren Oliver’s 0.00 ERA this spring:
"Economical work. He ain’t getting paid by the hour."
Who else was on the panel?
Can’t exactly envision Harold Reynolds going “Excuse me sir, but I have some issues with your calculation.”
Valle, Williams and I think Amsinger(sp?)
So, yeah. Two of their dumbest analysts and I think their dumbest host.
Plesac isn’t horrific as ex-player analysts go, but that was a horrific statement.
We have one of the best staffs top to bottom in baseball. We got Cliff Freakin Lee . We have a chance with the best team we have had maybe ever and we did not touch Holland Sheppers and perez. Awesome and you are crazy if the don’t like this. We have never been in this position for years. Frankly, I am on board to see what Hou wants for Berkman or Owsalt especially if we settle the bankrutcy miraclously . What if Harden comes back like Harden ? Its not impossible ? Remember its also about health not talent with him.
This team has got something.
By my count, Lee's start schedule could be
7/10 – BAL
7/18 – BOS
7/23 – LAA (woot)
7/28 – OAK
8/3 – SEA (heh)
8/8 – OAK
8/15 – BOS
8/20 – BAL
8/25 – MIN
8/30 – KC
9/5 – MIN
9/10 – NYY (hahaha)
9/15 – DET
9/20 – LAA (woot woot)
9/25 – OAK
9/30 – LAA (woot woot woot)
And ready to start Game 1 of the Divisional Series. 16 starts, probably a 3-4 win improvement over what we’d see with Feldmania in addition to the saving of the pen.
It’s a good day to be a Rangers fan.
by jay_84 on Jul 9, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
w00t
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
All right, all right.
16-0.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Recced for chubby inducement
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Let's not forget that
Lee is joining This Thing during our very difficult second half schedule. Talk about timing….
By this...
I’d get to see Cliff Lee twice in Oakland!
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Overload!
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
Lee
Like I said in the earlier thread, it hurts like hell to give up Smoak, but for JD to get this deal done, without having any financial flexibility, and to only give up one top prospect, was a major, major coup. Not to mention swooping in and screwing the Yankees right in their $200 million asses.
This team now has a legitimate #1, not a #2 who just happens to be our best starter, but a legitimate, grade-A, bona-fide, motherfucking ace.
For all the crap us fans have had to deal with this year, it’s a really good damn day to be a Ranger fan.
by RCCook on Jul 9, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh fuck
you just gave me wood.
Say it again….slower.
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
by Pocket Ninja on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHA
Exactly!
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
Link
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
A legit #1
Colby Lewis
And just think…what if Rich Harden gets his groove back?
Lee, Good Harden, and Lewis for the playoff rotation?
by Adam J. Morris on Jul 9, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huge if, I agree. But if this club keeps rolling with Feldman in that scenario... GAH.
by Josh Garoon on Jul 9, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hard to say
who they are more invested in. Harden or Feldman. I guess it will be Harden but I’m just not sure. I really don’t know what happens when Harden and Holland come back.
Or even now – Is Hunter the one that gets bumped first?
Tommy Hunter waves hello
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
What about BGL?
I’d go Lee / Lewis / Wilson / Hunter / Holland (if he can come back).
Harden is certainly the wild card though.
Sorry Scooter, you can have Nippert’s spot in the ’pen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
My expectations of performance going forward:
Lee
Lewis
Hunter
Wilson
Holland
Feldman
Harden
Harrison
I could put Holland third if he comes back completely healthy. I’m sure Harden will get more starts, and hopefully he proves me wrong with them.
For a full season now, he's pounded the strike zone and had solid success with it.
Everyone else I have questions with. Wilson also has a small sample as a starter and has struggled quite a bit in recent starts. Harden and Holland both have injury histories.
It’s close, but of all those guys, the one I’m most comfortable expecting to be average between now and October is Hunter. If someone wants to do a little bit of switching, I have little argument.
Not sure.
Could be small sample size crap, but so could the first part of his season.
I’m ever-so-slightly more confident in Hunter going forward after Wilson’s last month or so. That’s also partly because I liked Hunter more coming in to the season, but Ceej has made it close.
This is reasonable
and Hunter ahead of Wilson doesn’t have to mean by much. I’m betting that Wilson’s stuff will mean he’s a bit better than Hunter the rest of the way, though.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I will say this.
I absolutely take back my in-the-moment hatred of the FO. Doesn’t mean I’m happy about the move, but I don’t actually hate JD or think he really sucks now that I’ve calmed down.
Great trade for Mariners; Great trade for Rangers if...
the Rangers win the World Series. I hope you guys beat the Yankees…Mariners fan here.Our GM basically turned three OK prospects into three OK prospects and Smoak, as well as a half-year of God. I’m happy.
One OK prospect...
Two Org. fillers, and Smoak. A very good trade for Dr. Z.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
Beavan is a good/decent prospect, Lawson is OK and Leuke looks OK. Smoak looked alright to me until I saw his stats for the past month. He looks like he has good potential to hit .275 with 25 HRs.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think my "OK" is not your "OK"
No need to be snippy now.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean
you’re still wrong. Lawson is not better than Leuke so you’re obviously wrong about something.
Leuke wil not be better in jail, however.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not going to jail unless he masturbates on someone else's back
He might though
by ab03 on Jul 9, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
no recs?
balderdash!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
you misspelled
balled her ass.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
by t ball on Jul 9, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Leuke looks like he could help our (M's) bullpen
I can’t see Lawson being of any use whatsoever.
Good one.
I’m sorry if I’ve offended you.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Beavan is OK...
Lawson and Leuke are nothing. You should be very, very happy that your team traded for Smoak, however.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF
Actually, I just read that Lee was open to talking extension with the Mariners. Fuck. I hope you guys get hit hard by bankruptcy :) ; I couldn’t handle seeing Lee in a Rangers uniform for 3 years.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
We've already been peared and left for dead by bankruptcy.
It’s shaken my dedication to my chosen profession.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank God (Cliff Lee).
It won’t be too bad seeing him in a Yankees uniform then. I’m immune to it now.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
The Rangers had to trade you Blake Beavan...
and the Giants Michael Main because of the bankruptcy. We’ve suffered enough. Let us have our Cliff Lee.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Settle down now
Replying to everyone of my comments with a sort of passive aggression is quite annoying.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not being passive aggressive...
but I can be aggressive aggressive if you’d like.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can't we all sing koombayah, or whatever it is called?
Yes, my comments toward ghost were of bad taste; but you my friend, wow.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
use your mod powers
it’s bad enough we gave them our first basemen. Ban some bitches
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Uh-oh.
What shall I do now? Hmmm, backtracking seems appropriate. Well, you Ranger guys have a great system of allowing new users (I am not new, but this handle is) to post immediately. The Seattle sites seem to be a bit unconventional in the sense that a minimum of 1-2 days of non-posting is required before you can post.
I love internet communities.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You won't get banned, just keep the trolling under control and try not to preach to us about
our teams farm system.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Your system is awesome
Whether you agree or not
What really sucks (for M's fans)
Is that 2011 was supposed to be your year, not 2010. It was supposed to be ours and clearly it was not.
Why?
Serious question, no sense of argument is trying to be conveyed on my behalf.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
We don't need your pity
Just your first baseman.
This is definitely not a Seattle board.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You think I keep an encyclopedia of everything I read?
So that I can quickly link to it at a moment’s notice?
No, not at all.
I just assumed you would link to your claim, especially since you said many projection sites.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I would expect you to probably have an idea of this sort of thing.
Since it’s what LoL is about and you made a statement like that. And I’m not sure why you can’t Google it if you want a source so badly.
I might give you a link when I feel like it, which is not right this second, but if you’re impatient and super distrustful, you could Google it or go to RLYW or something yourself.
Actually,
I am quite sick of google-ing for evidence to a claim I did not make.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Then be a little more patient or a little less crazily distrustful.
If doing your own search is too much trouble, you don’t deserve to know.
But I’m honestly shocked this is that hard for you to believe, or that you don’t know how to verify it yourself.
I believe you,
but I wanted to the what you saw. If that is too much for you to do (link), then fine.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not too much.
I’ve just got some stuff going on and it’s enough to be responding to people in this thread. I’ll find a link eventually.
Diamond Mind Blowout
That’s a start and the easiest one for me to find quickly. Sorry I didn’t hyperlink. Only Cairo has the Rangers not winning the division, but it’s by less than a game.
If memory serves, ZiPS has the Mariners winning in ESPN, but Dave came by and mentioned that in a later attempt using more simulations, it came out with Texas.
All of those,
seem to be wrong in the case of the Mariners, however — worse than projected. I see what you mean though!
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
but Dave came by
--
Dan Szymborski
BTF
Dan on ESPN Insider
by D.Szymborski on Jul 9, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Rangers edged out M’s when I ran stuff at the very start of the season. By then, I was more pessimistic about Bedard’s playing time and Garko was gone (not that he played well anyway, but he was projected to!)
--
Dan Szymborski
BTF
Dan on ESPN Insider
by D.Szymborski on Jul 9, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ve never solved the mystery as to why I’m called Dave frequently. Perhaps fond nostalgia for the Dan & Dave commercials nearly 20 (!) years ago?
--
Dan Szymborski
BTF
Dan on ESPN Insider
by D.Szymborski on Jul 10, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Why should we bother providing links to some fucking douche bag M's fan who wanders over here?
You want shit found for you on the internet, fucking find it yourself.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jul 9, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good one.
You really got him with that one!
Damn, don’t know how he’ll come back from your impressive array of insults, wordsmith!
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Jul 9, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
he's more of a cocksucker.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Jul 9, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I figured...
that I had slaughtered that word. I didn’t care too much though, since this is not too formal.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ignoring him...
…a very interesting decision. It may well be above me, however.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about us.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Hell, even Jeff said the Rangers were probably more likely to win the division than the Mariners.
But it was close.
Nope.
He was saying the Rangers were probably good in 2010 and there was no clear favorite in the West, but when I brought it up here, he came by and said it was probably the Rangers, maybe the Angels.
I believe Cameron also said the Rangers probably win the West more often this year, but the Mariners had both a higher ceiling and floor. I’m almost completely certain he picked the Rangers in his season preview.
This was not anymore the Mariners year going in than the Rangers, and most evidence and opinions I would put any stock in would have said Rangers.
You're missing the point
2010 was the only chance we had, but the Rangers were just going to get better. Now, we can only wait for 2012 to hope to contend.
Oh, I think it could a very long time away.
Us contending, that is.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I see.
Then I did miss your point.
But I still think 2010 was supposed to be the Rangers year (for the first time since I can remember, I thought that AND had good support) and, so far, it has been.
Playoffs!
That is what it is all about. Good luck.
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not going to ban you...
but I’m unsure why you’re trying to call me out for agreeing with you that your team made a good trade.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jul 9, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Me neither, in retrospect.
I like being banned though?
by bludevilchief on Jul 9, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
What happens when Harden comes back?
Does Feldman get the mysterious Ass Strain trip to the DL?
Bunting makes me spooge in my pants!
SHUT THE FUCK UP, I DIDN'T SAY THAT!
/irate guy from that thread
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
by Rodney on Jul 9, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
If the games gets rained out tonight
I don’t expect to see another Feldman start.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Lee can throw both ends of a double-header tomorrow.
In the same number of pitches that Harden would use to get into the 6th.
Ok, so I hate to be homer, but...
We could win Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Executive of the Year, Cy Young, and MVP.
by BuckyB on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
BONER
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
WS?
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Cocaine
I just don’t see the manager of the year
by thedudeabides on Jul 9, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How in the hell did you leave out Silver Boot?
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
The Quintuple!
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jul 9, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I still wonder about the Lowe thing.....
If we took on 1.5 mil……most of that would be Lowe’s salary.
Why take that on?
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