Barret Loux to be a free agent as of September 1
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 11:22 AM CDT
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PrintThe strange saga of Barret Loux continues...
Loux, for those who are unaware, was a first round pick by the Arizona Diamondbacks in this June's draft, going #6 overall. A righty out of Texas A&M, Loux was seen as an overdraft and an easy sign, but when he failed his physical, the D-Backs decided not to make him an offer.
This is similar to the R.A. Dickey and Tim Stauffer situations of years past...except, in years past, if you didn't sign your first round, you'd get a sandwich pick in the following year's draft. Under the new rules, if the D-Backs didn't sign Loux, they'd get the #7 overall pick in next year's draft, and they'd clearly much rather than that than damaged goods.
The problem, of course, is that Loux gets stuck in limbo...not only does he lose the $2 million plus signing bonus he would have gotten, he is also the exclusive property of the D-Backs, and if he doesn't sign with them (and they clearly didn't want to sign him at this point), he couldn't start his pro career until next June, when he'd be back in the draft.
In any case, a press release has just come out saying that Loux will be declared a free agent as of September 1, 2010, and that the commissioner's office has decreed that the D-Backs will get a compensatory pick next year.
That, to me, is the most reasonable solution, so much so that I'm shocked Bud Selig agreed to do it. Maybe he's on vacation.
I also suspect that Scott Boras is having his minions pore over this line by line, to see if they can use it to get Bryce Harper out of his deal with the Nationals, and declared a free agent.
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Quick, Bryce! Fail a physical!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
I don't know about the compensation pick
They got buyers remorse and then basically get a great pick next year? That is my problem with it.
It’s probably the best call all around but something about it still doesn’t seem right. I guess I just see a difference between the team and the player not being able to come to agreement and the team saying, uh I pass.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
Well
If they didn’t sign him, they’d get a compensatory pick. This basically keeps the player from getting screwed.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
So
This basically keeps the player from getting screwed.
Are you referring to what happened with RA Dickey, how his bonus got drastically reduced after the medicals came back?
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
No
I’m saying that, if this hadn’t happened, Loux would have to wait another year to start his pro career.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks to me like the D-Backs
are now getting a pick in the supplemental (sandwich) round instead of the 7th pick. Am I wrong? That makes it seem like the D-backs are getting screwed.
no they get the pick after #6, for sure
not a sandwich
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you saw compensatory pick and confused it with supplemental pick... I think...
Probably a brain fart or something… I’m not saying you’re stupid and thought the two were the same thing… Happens to the best of us man, kind of like genital herpes… Don’t worry about it man… Until a break out/a couple of flare ups, then you have to tell your wife and kids…
No, I’m not sure why you have to tell your kids either, but they’re going to be there eating captain crunch at the kitchen table when you tell your wife anyways so bust out some real world shit. I Mean Hell, They’re 6 and 8 years old, It’s Tine!!! It’s Tine to prepare them for Homosexual Tendencies in 100% straight men A.K.A. The 4 Gay Whores that Daddy has in his T Mobile Fave 5 and goes to see every Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday night & Sunday after Church, Which is why he misses your Little League games even though he’s a coach & Ballerina Recitals even though he owns a tutu and is also a coach (instuctor)… “Don’t you bring Adam J. Morris into this Susan!!! Don’t pick up that phone for the kids and they’re daddy who loves himself some tittays!!! I won’t sign papers… Just Look at Ted Haggard baby, I mean Look at Him! he did it, He loves Titties.. He’s Straight! and not addicted to Meth anymore… NO IM NOT!!! I’m just staring at this young man’s ass to make sure he’s wiped today, like any good fellow citizen sanitarian would do! or wiped the day he shot this video… Or technically it’s a porno, yes, if you want to fight over the ‘hip’ words kids use now-a-days… How dare you accuse me of masturbating to a gay porno in the living room at Thanksgiving during halftime of the Cowboy Game in front of the whole family… Um, That’s a gravy stain on me britches…”
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I don’t know why…
Why can't the rule be; You have to atleast offer the draft pick slot in order to get the same pick in next years draft.... If you don't, then you get a sandwich pick.... Which there's loop holes in that rule too, but not as much
fuck DiPito is an idiot… It was rumored for like a week they were going to take him, so They knew atleast that long that he was their pick and they didn’t even research the kid….
Yes, but
it seems that most teams play it pretty safe with their compensatory picks.
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by GhettoBear04 on Aug 17, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you serious about Bryce Harper?
Been out of touch lately….what’s going on with the deal he signed?
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by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 17, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions
Well
I think it is like the Pedro Alvarez deal from a couple of years ago.
Alvarez agreed to a deal, but he saw a loophole he thought he could exploit to get him declared a free agent (and thus get him more money), and he tried to exploit it.
Harper got a lot of money from the Nats, but he’d likely get a lot more if he were a f.a.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
wow, that would infuriate me.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 17, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
How much do you think he gets on the open market?
over/under 50 million?
Good God, That’d be a dream if the Rangers were able to land him….. Don’t worry, I’m aware there’s like .00001% chance he hits the market and even if he does, an even lower chance we’d sign him.
Good point on Boras and co.
But there is no way baseball will allow him to pull that off.
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Fuck the Video Board and go sign..
Barret Loux.
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by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 17, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions
Bit?
Because the video board is budgeted at about ten times what Loux would get.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Obviously.
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by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 17, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really
But ok!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
bottom line,
with the ownership situation the way that it is now, i don’t see how loux wouldn’t want to stay in texas and sign with the rangers. At the same time the rangers would still have to want him and his serious injury concerns. I had more confidence in Scheppers, not so much in Loux considering he has similar labrum issues AND the potential for TJ surgery.
Rangers FTW
Loux
He’s also a lower ceiling guy than Scheppers.
I think the Rangers will do their due diligence, but he’s not the type of pitcher they’ve tended to pay big for.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
That's crazy to think
that Loux went 6th overall and Scheppers was twice drafted so late…I’m an Aggie, and didn’t realize Loux was that well regarded. And yet, his ceiling is nowhere near Scheppers’
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
In BA's May 25 Top 200...
…Loux was ranked #35.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Loux...
kind of sounds like a taller lefty Hunter.
A lower-ceiling guy who (assuming his arm holds up) could contribute in the majors quickly.
Well
Loux’s righthanded. Also, he pretty much just has a fastball as far as a plus pitch goes, whereas Hunter had the curve as his calling card.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
other than that, though...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit
In a search, I saw him listed as a LHP.
Admittedly, it was from a blogspot page, which probably should have made me verify with other sources.
Albeit, I read this from a scouting report, and it reminded me of Hunter.
“His workload and fastball command suggest he could be a very good No. 3 starter. If his secondary pitches develop, that puts his ceiling even higher. For now, though, looking at him as a solid middle rotation starter who will be ready for the big leagues pretty fast seems about right.”
I read his plus pitch is his changeup...
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by TooLegitToQuit on Aug 17, 2010 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
a lot of ppl differ
it’s a good pitch, but there’s not enough velocity difference
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so he has 25+ pitches
hey, hes no nick massett!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
25 plus pitches
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
on the 20-80 scale all his pitches are 25 and up?
or he has 25 different plus pitches and its a joke?
so what happens if
Team A has the #1 pick and drafts a player with no intention of ever signing him because the projected #1 pick the following year is a once-in-a-lifetime kind of talent?
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They still wouldn't likely have a shot at him
because the #1 pick from this year would get the #2 pick next year, iirc.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
This is the correct response
Plus a whole year will pass. The player could fail, get injured, etc, etc. It won’t happen with a top 5 pick.
Now a first round pick later in the round like the Dodgers scenario this year, very likely.
except that their pick
was a legit 1st rd pick and would have been a steal had they actually been able to (or had any interest in) signing the dude
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea i think you are correct
I dont think a team with the #1 overall would do that but what about a team with say the #3 pick for example? Say there are really only two top tier talents in this draft but next years is supposed to be stocked? What keeps the other teams from doing this just to stock up on picks in a deeper draft down the road? I know it is sign-ability but seems like a worthy risk if the team just knows they will money whip to make sure they sign the pick next year. Seems very squirrelly to me
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by enrico pallazzo on Aug 17, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
that's what I'm afraid folks are going to start doing...
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by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 17, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure Bud would write a very sternly worded letter to the team if that happened
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Can he not go back to school?
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In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
He could
I doubt he would want to, though.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I assume he engaged an agent
which I think would mean school is not an option.
This is awesome
The draft rules, as set up, gave the dBacks a perverse incentive to screw over that kid incredibly badly. I’m very impressed that Bud granted him free agency.
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Seems anticlimactic...
cause, I mean, isn’t the player actually pretty disabled?
I don’t know his medical situation well, but I thought it was a clear and present problem.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Aug 17, 2010 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
I think that was a Brewer draft pick
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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yea
it was a breweres guy
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
No, that's a different player who didn't sign
Covey, or something like that.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Covey Is Diabetic
He passed in signing with the Brewers after being diagnosed. He’s going to college in San Diego to be close to home while he makes all the adjustments to life as a diabetic athlete.
by Mister Naxal on Aug 17, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
reminds me of this (which looks horrible):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHps2SecuDk&feature=youtube_gdata
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, that looked like a joke, but I guess it's actually going to be a movie.
They should start over with new actors.
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Probably the biggest decision of my life when I was 8.
Damn, I miss those days.
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haha, what game is that?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 17, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude..... Oregon Trail?
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you sneaky communist bastard!
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by Walter Sobchak on Aug 18, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I always did.
At a grueling pace.
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In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
My atonement
I should have really at least googled some of this shit rather than assume it was the same player we were talking about last night. Kind of feel like a giant tool at the moment.
Loux' injury
Loux began the day by meeting with Diamondbacks medical personnel. The examination revealed a tear in Loux’s labrum and spurred questions about his elbow – he had bone chips removed in the summer of 2009. The discoveries shouldn’t have taken the Diamondbacks completely by surprise: An MRI taken a week before the surgery to remove the bone chips was widely available to teams interested in Loux, Texas A&M trainer Josh Cohen said.
From an article on Yahoo (I know, I know, great source). Linky
I call MF'ing shenanigans
This sound fishy. Maybe im just a bit tin foil hatty today though
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by enrico pallazzo on Aug 17, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
Genius movie
Oh say does that flag banner wave / Over a-a-all that's free / And the home of the land / And the land of the - FREE!
by enrico pallazzo on Aug 17, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially since the team reportedly didn't even fully greet him when he showed up after being drafted
The Dbacks had this planned, is my guess
AKA BuckyB
just got off the phone with a friend who said he's been pitching and seems to be fine
I’d throw some change his way…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 17, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Who??
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Beats me
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Wow
Selig bent the rules in order to do the right thing for the player? Maybe he should be commish of PGA Tour
Ugh. The dude couldn't read the signs posted in the clubhouse?
Did Junuh complain when he moved his ball removing that bit of grass?
I guess I’d rather him be more like Junuh than Judge Smails.
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yeah, now that you mention that... She used to be on the tippy top of my lists, but now i just think she's kinda hot... I didn't put that together until you said it though for some reason...
maybe its because I payed attention to her acting in that movie and it just carried over…
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by Feliz es bueno on Aug 17, 2010 1:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I was hoping Pittsburgh would get cheap and not sign Tallion...
oh well; Rice will have to go without ruining one of the best young pitchers in baseball…
Annoyed that 3 players didn’t sign – that means that Lee will give the 34th overall pick in the compensation round (plus whoever signs him’s first rounder).
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pitt is going in the right dierection...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 18, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
So
any chance we’d be interested in signing him?
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Michael Choice's mother said........
The Diamond Backs were set to take him, and then changed the morning of to draft Loux.
DOH!
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