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Not news to any of us, but it's cool that he said he may be the best talent since Mickey Mantle.

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Pedro Borbon? Really???

…oh wait…it’s SI

Hup Holland Hup

by Martijn1309 on Aug 17, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I laughed at that as well.

That might be worse than Neftali Perez

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by RangersSD on Aug 17, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

can’t figure out the pedro thing. the perez thing isn’t forgiveable but has some logic based on the former player Neifi Perez

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, there's a former player named Pedro Borbon.

Immortalized in the movie Airplane.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Aug 17, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now pinch-hitting for Pedro Borbon....

Many Mota…Mota…Mota….

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

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by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Dad told me he recently caught this movie on TCM.

Said it’s the exact same plot, same names, etcetera.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Aug 17, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hour!

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Aug 17, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew Airplane! was a spoof,

but I didn’t know it was such a direct one of a particular movie.

by Closure GT on Aug 17, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neifi Perez

Oddly enough, his middle name is Neftali.

by RCCook on Aug 17, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

hah

that’s a funny coincidence.

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Aug 17, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep..SI

Pedro Borbon meet John Daniels.

by bflood36 on Aug 17, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fixed
Pedro Borbon meet JohnJack Daniels.

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by Parman on Aug 17, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say it's closer to 4/80

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Aug 17, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

4/80 is a bit steep

since he is under team control for two more seasons.

If he is a $20 million player – and given that he’s an injury risk, that is probably the peak, I’d probably say $8-9 million for next year and $14-15 for the year after.

So 4/60, given the discount associated with the Rangers taking on all of the injury risk, is fair

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 17, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Him and Cliffly would add ~35mil to next year's payroll

Both of those things will not happen in the same offseason.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Hamilton will almost certainly be getting $8 million next year regardless. You could structure the long-term deal to escalate his pay so that he’s not getting a full amount in 2011 and 2012. But you’re pretty much committing the Rangers to be a $100 million payroll team in a few years if you want to keep Lee too.

With the raises due several Rangers, adding Lee won’t be trivial. It is doable, but not trivial.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 17, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

/HSO

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by TxStCa on Aug 17, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't had a chance to look more closely at the numbers

But I think being truly competitive to sign Lee will probably come down to what round the Rangers make it to in the playoffs. I think if they make the ALCS that they would make enough this year that they weren’t expecting that, combined with subsequent increase in ticket sales next year, they could make it a realistic competition with the Yankees.

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JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 17, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

4/80 is a bit steep...

Even if you think he’s a $25MM/year in years 3 and 4, discount his last two arb years to 60 and 80% of that, you end up with 15/20/25/25 for $75MM. 4/80 seems too high to me as well.

It would be interesting to know how the market would discount that further for his history (both injury and drug). Maybe 4/60 is right, I don’t know, but in general there’s not much precedent to refer to. His contract/extension situation will be very interesting to watch.

by bhudson on Aug 17, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's only making 3.5 this year, or something close to that

no way he’d get up to 15 million in arbitration this year.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 17, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doubt it.

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by TXHC on Aug 17, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope

we can get Manny Mota to PH for him.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Aug 17, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Today's lineup

"@JeffWilson_FWST: Rangers lineup: Andrus, ss; Borbon, cf; Hamilton, dh; Guerrero, rf; Murphy, lf; Cantu, 3b; Molina, c; Moreland, 1b; Blanco, 2b."

Well then... I would like to see this Jeff Sullivan pornagraphy.

by ghostofErikThompson on Aug 11, 2010 10:35 PM PDT

by Feliz es bueno on Aug 17, 2010 2:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

All things considered, decent lineup.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Aug 17, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like I read that lineup somewhere else a few minutes ago....

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by bking on Aug 17, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mikey finally gets a day off.

yea.

rah.

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by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 17, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Borbon hitting second...vomit.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd almost want to try Murph out there...or Blanco.

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by TxStCa on Aug 17, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Makes more sense to me.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Aug 17, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Who wants that sack of shit up here. Demote that worthless sack of shit

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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by Gdawg on Aug 17, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Break out game. Heard it here first.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Aug 17, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Honus is on you.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

pwnus I think

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You live in Austin?

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Aug 17, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Negative, Ghostrider.

Do you live live in Austin? Where ’bouts?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're like my grandpa. I've answered this to you like 14 times.

I live in Kyle. Two towns south of Austin. 15 mins and I’m in the big city.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Aug 17, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I ask you during GDTs and then I bail...

I’m sorry dude…I’ll be in Austin the weekend before TGiving…maybe we can get together at Maria’s and eat tacos and drink birra.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like fun.

I’ll have to see what the Thanks-G schedule will be like. Wife works for restaurant, so she usually is working holiday, so we take the week before or after off…

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Aug 17, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

jerk

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 18, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

pretty much expected

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Aug 17, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

at least there is no Arias in the lineup

if yesterday finally got us to the point where we will stop making extraordinary efforts to keep control of it, maybe there is a tiny bit of silver lining in the dark clouds of yesterday. Too bad to see that Young isn’t right back in the lineup, hopefully right back in there tomorrow.

by Dalman on Aug 17, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Arias will not be a Ranger in 48 hours.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where is Esteban and how long will it take him to get here?

That should be how long The Cockroach has remaining in his Ranger career.

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by randyd on Aug 17, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've always liked German

good at getting on base, still pretty good defense, versatile if not great in the field. I always thought he deserved to have more of a major league career than he has actually gotten.

by Dalman on Aug 17, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Rodney check your email

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by Pocket Ninja on Aug 17, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just fished it out of my junk mail.

THX!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Aug 17, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep coming back to the site today..

…hoping to see a post that he will no longer be a Ranger in 48 minutes.

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Aug 17, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with you

if German is not in tonight’s OKC lineup.

by RangerMad on Aug 17, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Aug 17, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last I had looked they had the same ammount of errors at 15,

but that was a few weeks ago, so it may have changed a little.

Regardless, I don’t feel much better with Cantu out there.

by lost in space on Aug 17, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that ball that hit the seam in the carpet

that got by Cantu happened to get by Face, there would have been holy hell within LSB.

Same with the ball that was half-assed by Tiny E.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

True dat.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Aug 17, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elvis made me angry last night, in every way imaginable....he was acting like a 12 year old.

THat’s the last time I’ll bring it up.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's out of hand in this place.

Most of LSB is acting as though GNettles or BRobinson never hit into a DP, have a ball get thru the hole or go down the line for a double.

It’s become a LSB Bit.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will you please stop talking about bits.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 17, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josey, let's get real man, Young sucks at 3rd, it would be better served for him to move...would it not?

He’s been great offensively, but he sucks D with the glove.

I love Young, but he sucks in the field.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's having a real bad year at 3B this year (defensively).

He started slow last year but showed improvement towards the end.

Not sure what the future holds for him but Jeter got better in 2009 than he did at 2008.

I don’t think it’s Young’s skillset so much as it is unfamiliarity with the position and a lack of confidence.

That’s not an excuse, he should be better than he has been but the criticism he receives in here is over the top and it totally stems from him treating LSB Favorite Son JD like dog shit on his cleats before the 2009 season.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Given that his arm is considered his strongest asset on D...

Can someone explain why he plays so damn shallow?? It seems to me like that exaggerates his weak reaction times.

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by bking on Aug 17, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe bc he is slow coming in on the ball?

That’s a good point though and what I said above in the subject line is the only thing I can think of.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

So when exactly will Mike get "familiar" and "confident" with the position?

I would imagine that spring training and all of last year, then spring training and every game so far this year would be plenty of time to get familiar with a position. It’s not like he is transitioning from the outfield to infield or moving from catcher to second base. He just moved from short stop to third base, I realize they are different positions, but I would imagine for a professional infielder, the learning curve wouldn’t be 2 full seasons.

by michael bluth on Aug 17, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He never will

because he’s not good defensively. Its stupid to think that at this point, after 2 full seasons and offseasons to prepare for the position, that he will all of a sudden be anything more than below average.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 17, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, the irony
It’s become a LSB Bit.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Aug 17, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not defending

Cantu or Elvis, but there were plenty of other things that were causing holy hell at the time. Hard to hate on those two when Arias is doing his thing.

by AsDevilsRun on Aug 17, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, Cantu is

at best just as bad as Young defensively. TotalZone and UZR have him as worse, and DRS says about equal.

by AsDevilsRun on Aug 17, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Cantu is terrible

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Aug 17, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was on the road listening to Barnett during that entire

bottom of the 8th.

It was a Judy Borbon hitting second kind of vomit.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Aug 17, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

My blood was boiling giving up the lead

right after Molina hit the longest single in Ranger’s history to score Cantu.

by lost in space on Aug 17, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

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