The Stephen Ireland EPL Thread
3rd weekend of EPL games then the Int'l break. Transfer window closing tight, too. Hope City finally signs somebody before the deadline.
The League Cup comes into the picture for lots of our teams - per Wiki -
The draw for the Third Round will take place on 28 August 2010, after the Second Round games had been played. The matches played in the week beginning 20 September 2010.
The CL Group Stage draw is near -
26 August at 18.00CET [noon in DFW?], Monaco - Ten play-off winners join the 22 automatic entrants in the group-stage draw at the Grimaldi Forum, Monaco, with the 32 sides split into four seeding pots and one from each drawn into the eight groups. Seeds are based on UEFA's coefficient system and no team can meet another from the same association.
And some of us [single tear on my cheek] will pay attention to the Europa Group Stage draw -
27 August at 13.00CET [7am in DFW?], Monaco - The 37 play-off winners are joined by holders Club Atlético de Madrid and the ten losing teams from the UEFA Champions League play-offs to make up the 48 clubs that go into the group-stage draw at the Grimaldi Forum.
The 48 sides are split into four seeding pots based on UEFA's coefficient system, with one from each drawn into the 12 groups. No team can meet another from the same association. Once the draw has been completed a computer draw will determine the final position of the sides within their group and therefore the order of the home and away matches.
I wonder how many of our players get run over by a stewardess pushing a drinks trolley during this Int'l window.
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Speaking of Real - I'm watching their last friendly ...
The front six is – Sami behind Canales and Alonzo – with Ozil and Ronaldo swapping wings back and forth around Higuain. Ozil looks a half beat slow understanding his teammates, but he doesn’t look overmatched or anything. The interesting thing tho’, to me anyway, is that Sergio Ramos, who I hate with a passion, is at CD next to Carvalho instead of hogging the ball out at a right wingback. This makes Real sooooo much more pleasant to watch. Real has lots of CD injury woes so Jose is trying out stopgap ideas at CD – Gago played there the other day, for instance. I wonder how happy Ramos is playing the pure defender in the middle of the field rather than hogging the ball [I hate him soooo much] out along the right touchline. I hate him. So much. BTW, the left FB Marcello is a fun little dude to watch.
So you're following City and Real Madrid?
seriously?
by Brett Perryman on Aug 25, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
i hate real madrid.
and that was before they picked up “the special one”
i would be ok if the Bernabéu became a smoking crater…as long as c ronaldo and “the special one” were there
…that said iker casilla is like mo rivera to me. i hate the yankees, but like mo. i hate real but like casilla…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Mourinho
He’s about the only redeeming quality on that squad. Well, him and Alonso. Casillas is alright, too.
Not mediocre. Right about average
"alright"?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
...which is why he started the WC games, right? lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Casillas
I was sorta joking, but is there any doubt that if Reina played for Madrid, and Casillas for Liverpool, that Reina would be Spain’s #1?
Um, I don't know
Reina’s a fine keeper, but Casillas is in a class of his own.
Not mediocre. Right about average
meh
once its the national team i dont think they would play favorites based on which team a player plays for…
that said, damn i wish reina was (still) @ barca…lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't think Del Bosque would pick Iker Casillas because he's Iker Casillas?
What the fuck? Were you born yesterday on the back of a turnip truck? That’s how national teams work all the time.
by LiamP on Aug 25, 2010 2:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i think they would rather win the damn WC
considering their “history” (or lack of it)
casillas = 3x UEFA team of the year goalie
…come on
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on what?
Reina was fucking better last season. Anyone who watched either one for any extended amount of time would say the same thing.
They insisted on playing an unfit Torres for most of the tournament and it could’ve easily cost them. Think they played him because he was on form? Nope. They did it because he’s Fernando fucking Torres. People play because of their names all the damn time. Casillas is the Derek Jeter of Spain. He’s very good and so beloved that, so long as he can stand upright, he’ll be the #1 choice.
by LiamP on Aug 25, 2010 2:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Regardless
You don’t drop your number 1 based on a single year of play, particularly when Casillas is still obviously a class keeper. Such a move would be rash and if Reina fell on his face (or had one gaffe as bad as his OG against Arsenal) del Bosque would have been blamed, and rightly so.
Not mediocre. Right about average
This goes back to RC's point
If Reina was the #1 at Barca, instead of a massively underachieving English team that finished 7th, it would be a lot more feasible. Reina’s form last year was awesome, and in the time he’s been at Liverpool, he’s developed into a top 2 or 3 keeper.
by LiamP on Aug 25, 2010 3:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This goes back to RC's point
If Reina was the #1 at Barca, instead of a massively underachieving English team that finished 7th, it would be a lot more feasible. Reina’s form last year was awesome, and in the time he’s been at Liverpool, he’s developed into a top 2 or 3 keeper.
by LiamP on Aug 25, 2010 3:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
meh, I don't know
Torres plays for Liverpool, an underachieving English squad, but he was your poster child for coasting on reputation this summer. I think it has more to do with not wanting to upset things too much before the tournament. I’m also not convinced that I’d prefer Reina over Casillas (splitting hairs really, both are excellent).
Not mediocre. Right about average
The point with Torres is that none of that mattered, because he's Fernando Torres.
The point that I’m agreeing with is that, if their pedigrees were equal (or reversed as in RC’s scenario), there’s no way you would’ve picked Casillas over Reina going into that tournament. Last season, Casillas had, by his standards, a bad season. Reina on the other hand, was awesome.
I understand that Casillas was never going to be dropped. He’s the youngest ever GK for Real, youngest for Spain and most importantly, he’s the captain of that team.
by LiamP on Aug 25, 2010 3:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
In terms of likability
They’ve obviously got loads of players who are a bit better that “alright”.
Not mediocre. Right about average
ahh he meant as in likable
i meant as in an “alright” player
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 25, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It Definitely Isn't Hammer Time
Well, the goal differential is already 1 for – 6 against, and the next Premiership match is against Man U.
What an ugly start to the campaign.
Hammers
They can’t be this bad. Can they? They looked very good in the first half against Bolton and then fell to pieces. They have dug themselves a bit of a hole to start the season, but I just can’t see them getting relegated. Grant’s a good coach. Not sure about the decision to sell Diamanti though.
Not mediocre. Right about average
Groups for English teams are mainly boring
Arsenal and Chelsea should go through easily but have some beastly travel to do. United get Valencia and I’m really looking forward to that.
Shroom’s Real get the easiest team from Pot A but the most difficult group overall.
by LiamP on Aug 26, 2010 5:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Spurs have the most interesting group
Inter, Bremen and Twente.
by LiamP on Aug 26, 2010 5:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Spurs certainly got the toughest draw of the EPL teams
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
CL Groups
Real’s group should be interesting- Auxerre and Ajax aren’t pushovers. Spurs have a fairly tough group- the defending champs plus two solid clubs in Bremen and FC Twente.
I’m pretty happy with Lyon’s group- Benfica and Schalke will be challenging, but they should roll over Hapoel Tel Aviv.
and barca has an easy group lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 26, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
wooo
now i can only hope ibra to milan falls through
id much rather have robinho
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 27, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Less than we paid for him
Seems it doesn’t matter who the manager is, our board always finds a way to screw the club on transfer deals.
But at least Hodgson can finally buy some players- come on down, Paul Konchesky and Carlton Cole! Yay!
I’m so totally stoked for this season now! Thanks, Hicks!
I saw a headline to some article about how Hicks had depressed the Rangers chances.
I thought of your poor team and the Hicks erosion it’s going thru. The day he sells is gonna be like a 1000 Christmases for Liverpool fanz.
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by LiamP on Aug 27, 2010 10:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why does "Milner cost 26 mil" keep buzzing through my head with every somewhat large transfer amount
even though it should have absolutely no relevance?!
Seriously, though, that doesn’t look a good figure considering how they probably would’ve liked to get into the mid-20s…
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
Yep
Seeing as we paid 17 for him, and since coming to us, he’s become one of the best destroyer midfielders in the world and captain of Argentina, yeah, I was hoping we’d get more than 15-20 when we sold him.
Looks like Konchesky’s our new LB- heard today that a deal was close, for around 3-4 million. Hodgson reportedly has four targets for a midfield signing- Gokhan Inler, Gary Medel, Scott Parker, and Steven Defour, who would be my first choice.
CM signing
Well, looks like we may already have a replacement- the Guardian is reporting Liverpool has agreed a deal with Porto for Raul Meireles. That’s actually better than I was expecting…
I find it funny that Fulham spent more on Konchesky's replacement (Salcido - 5mm) than Liverpool did on Konchesky.
by LiamP on Aug 27, 2010 6:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's our board!
Leave it to whoever’s running our transfers to pull off a coup like that!
The deal for Meireles has been confirmed- 10.7 million. I’d still like to add Defour and a striker; hopefully Hodgson has actually been given some money to work with…
could be worse
ibra: paid 46, getting 24.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 28, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention
Eto’o as a make-weight.
Not mediocre. Right about average
City gets Juve, Red Bulls Salzburg and Lech Poznan.
A big club and two domestic winners. Seems like a good test.
Real’s group – Jose yawns. Then admires and reflects upon the magnificence of his yawn.
This weekend's EPL fixtures: peeeee - yoooooooo - they stink.
Arsenal at Blackburn is sorta interesting but not enough to get up at 6:30am. The rest of sat morning sux. Sunday has Everton at Villa – two sputtering teams looking to find their stride. But I won’t watch it because it’s oppo the City game, which looks like a classic City stumbling block if we don’t bear down and match their physicality. Yuk – kind of an unpleasant way to launch into 2 weeks worth of int’l break finger-twirling.
Blackburn-Arsenal
You should watch this just so you can see Benjani unveiled as Rovers’ strike pairing to Mame Diouf. Will be interesting to see what one still has in the tank and what the other can do against a legit Premier League side. The alternative if Benjani doesn’t get the start is Gamst Pedersen up top. Some times I just don’t know if BFS is just taking the piss
Also I’ve already written out Wenger’s post-game comments. It’ll go something like this…"Well they do not come to play football, just to play rugby. This is not the football I know, this tackling and fouling business. The football I know is played in starched white shorts that never get dirty. "
…fuckin’ tosser
What's the rumpus?
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1 Chelsea 3 14 9
2 Arsenal 3 7 7
3 Man Utd 3 3 5
4 Wolves 3 1 5
-———————————
5 Newcastle 3 3 4
-———————————
6 Man City 2 3 4
7 Bolton 2 2 4
8 Birmingham 2 1 4
9 Tottenham 3 0 4
10 Blackpool 3 -2 4
11 Fulham 3 0 3
12 Blackburn 3 -1 3
13 Aston Villa 2 -3 3
14 West Brom 2 -5 3
15 Wigan 3 -9 3
16 Sunderland 2 -1 1
17 Everton 2 -1 1
-———————————
18 Liverpool 2 -3 1
19 West Ham 3 -5 1
20 Stoke 3 -4 0
Man. U should be up 2 by now.....
friggin’ rain.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 28, 2010 11:59 AM CDT reply actions
prolly.
but it don’t matter.
1-0!!!!
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 28, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Carling Cup
- Third round draw
Brentford v Everton
Portsmouth v Leicester
Stoke v Fulham
Chelsea v Newcastle
Aston Villa v Blackburn [!]
Tottenham v Arsenal [!!!]
Millwall v Ipswich
Wolves v Notts County
Burnley v Bolton
Birmingham v MK Dons
Liverpool v Northampton
Scunthorpe v Man Utd
West Brom v Man City
Sunderland v West Ham
Peterborough v Swansea
Wigan v Preston
Why did you bold those specific teams?
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Aug 28, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
top of EPL league would be my guess.
or crowd fav’s.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 28, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Just curious.
Guess I need to be more vocal about the Magpies in here.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Aug 29, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the big question for the 3rd round is
IS ARSENAL FOR REAL?
They had to come from behind late to tie Liverpool, but then pounded their next opponent.(I forgot who it was.)
Until I see consistency from them, I’m not buying.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 28, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Wenger ain't gonna sweat that cup tie with a strong lineup.
Fabiano will score a hattrick for Spurs. ‘Arry won’t even pretend to be sober that day.
Harry should have the common sense to play a weakened squad too.
Fabiano ain’t going to Spurs. They have 3 days left and Sevilla’s asking for a ton.
I'm fairly convinced that Paul Scholes is actually a ginger robot.
Some of those passes were absurd.
He's the EPL version of that ginger from the San Antonio Spurs
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 28, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Love lazy Saturday's
mock drafts, coffee, cigarettes, and EPL.
Doesn’t get better than that.
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 28, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
BERBATOV!!!!!!
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Aug 28, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions
Balotelli finding his form
Since scoring in his City debut, he has …
collapsed in a heap for no reason claiming a non-contact injury -
become unavailable for selection to Mancini’s apparent bafflement -
been seen walking around Manchester dressed like this -
and now he’s involved in a car crash
just balotelli being balotelli
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Me neither.
It was Eto + 20-30mm too.
My favorite part of this is Ibra’s reason for wanting to leave Inter. He said he had done all he could in Italy…and then proceeds to go back a year later.
by LiamP on Aug 28, 2010 5:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
paid 46 + eto i believe
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 28, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
So - does Barca make a bid for Robinho now?
Or do they keep their powder dry for a big Cesc offer next summer?
Do they really need the guy?
Pedro/Villa/Messi seems pretty set in stone, and I doubt he’d be all that much better than the young depth behind those three…
Urgh, I’ve never seen a more overrated player in my life.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
i can only hope so...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 28, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
They just bought Mascherano for about that much
and they might do well to actually get to where they can afford to pay their players consistently. They’ll buy Fabregas next summer but it’s not like they’re just sitting around with piles of cash wondering what to spend it on in the mean time.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 29, 2010 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions
They wanted more size.
Hard to blame them for the desire, but wow has it not worked out….
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 29, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
funny line I found on twitter -
If Pep is Michael Corleone, then yesterday Kay Ibrahimovic had the door slammed in her face.
looks like given is headed to fullham
with schwarzer heading to arsenal.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Guessing City wouldn't let Given go to Arsenal.
by LiamP on Aug 28, 2010 9:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and now the Guardian is saying Given is staying with City
gonna play in the Europa and dom cup games
saw that, was surprised
probably means schwarzer stays at fullham too
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
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I can honestly say that I’ll shed a tear when these bastards retire.
I think my favourite Scholes goal would be the one, I think, against Panathanaikos?
In 2000 or 2001, I think, where he lobbed the keeper after a long pass sequence.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
Scholes is my favorite player of my generation.
I started following United a year before he broke into the squad. When he and Giggs retire, it will basically be the last time I see players that I’ve been watching since I was a boy.
Adding one more.
Scholes has freely admitted that he doesn’t strike a dead ball very well, which is why he doesn’t take any FK’s. However, he was United’s penalty taker for about a year in the early 2000’s (before Ruud). Watch 2:36 of this video for what I still think is one of the most hilarious penalties I’ve ever seen.
Adam Johnson worships Giggs - studies him all the time.
The other guy he watches is Robben – trying to pick up some left-footed right-winger chops off him – cut back style. I guess AJ will be forced to play left wing for England lots – good chance to hone his game over there, too.
BTW, here’s a short video of Bellamy’s FK goal for Cardiff last week - great camera angle
Not surprising.
I imagine most British wingers currently their late teens or early twenties grew up sort of idolizing Giggs.
I like Jack Wilshere
He’s a little firecracker.
This sounds a little homeristic, but watching Walcott right now reminds me a little of the tournament in Happy Gilmore after Happy works with Chubs, when Happy says to Shooter, “Happy learned how to put – uh oh!” Last week it was Blackpool, so who knows. But he looked like someone again today whose brain wasn’t going 200 mph as he tried to decide what to do on the last ball. He’s going to be a major pain in the ass if that continues.
Also, on Arsenal, whether it’s Schwartzer or Almunia, between the keeper and central defense they just aren’t strong enough to challenge. I like Koscielny as a footballer, he’s scrappy, and they can put some decent size in Diaby, Song and Chamakh out there to help on set pieces, but he’s just not strong enough. On the goal they conceded today he didn’t have proper support, but Diouf B just sort of said ‘sorry, I’m going to keep this’ as he just shrugged him off breaking down the left. Squillaci may be a nice addition, but the Almunia-Gallas-Vermaelen troika was pretty woefully lacking last season all things considered, and all you’ve done in adding Squillaci is replace Gallas with the guy who could never beat him out for France (not that you can really trust the guy making the selections).
I don’t like that their two strikers aren’t pure goal scorers, but from the group of Fabregas, Arshavin, Van Persie, Walcott, Chamakh, Nasri, etc. they may have enough offense to challenge. Song is a solid, growing player, and with Gibbs developing they have their best set of fullbacks since Cole left. But they just aren’t going to be able to cover up that mess surrounding Vermaelen with what Wenger came up with this summer.
Song
I was impressed by Song on Saturday. He looks to be a strong deft player in the middle. As for the defense as a whole, I did find that they were getting exposed a bit more than I’d have expected. El Hadj was putting them under a lot of pressure and his little stop, sprint & turn maneuver was working all day despite him ALWAYS doing that.
And I hope Arsene was happy that there were hardly any yellow cards, and frankly hardly any need for them
What's the rumpus?
I'm sure that Wenger feels like
his little preemptive complaint had a lot to do with the relatively tame game.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 30, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
What would it take for Chelsea to not run away with the title this year?
Seems pretty inevitable. Man Utd can maintain better health, but they seem more likely to have the little slip-ups this time around. Chelsea has so many guys in good form and just look like a steamroller. Oh and suck it Shawcross, Pulis and Stoke. Enjoy playing Scunthorpe and Watford next season.
Essien injury and/or Drogba injury
by LiamP on Aug 29, 2010 11:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds about right
I’m not sure they run away with it, but I think they’re the favorites by a reasonable margin.
Also, an Ashley Cole injury would be pretty devastating, considering the width he provides and their injuries on the back line.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 29, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Essien Drogba
For what it’s worth, they were without both of them for significant periods of time last season and they still managed to come out on top.
Not mediocre. Right about average
Essien Drogba
I thought for a minute that Abramovic had somehow figured out a way to combine their DNA into one superplayer. Granted, that player would flop like crazy when he’s not trying to break your legs, but he’ll also score 30 a year!
Correct. By 1 point.
Point was for it to be that close again, they’ve got to get injured again.
by LiamP on Aug 31, 2010 2:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
gak
LB Kieran Richardson shut down his side of the field defensively for Sun and Lescott’s ineptness shut down his side of the field offensively for City. Left the middle clogged up and the ball blowing around in the air on a windy day. Tevez missed a sitter. Adebayour had a goal stolen by a reflex save. Mancini lost his cool on the sideline which just feuled the home crowd frenzy and Sunderland players. And like I always say – Richards is a just PK waiting to happen. Bah – what a waste of the Spurs’ defeat.
Terrible shroom.
City can’t get the ball wide with any kinda regularity. Why I only got 6 hrs of sleep to watch that on a grainy steam.
bah.
Now we have to sit on this for 2 weeks too. Terrible.
Everton
They started slow last year as well, but one point in three games has to be a pretty big disappointment, considering that they have kept Jagielka, Rodwell, Pienaar and Arteta, added Beckford early, and they don’t seem like they should be as unsettled as last year with Lescott. Aston Villa and Blackburn are going to be coin flips for them, but they haven’t played any of Chelsea, Man Utd/City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham and they’re already fighting up from the relegation zone.
Beckford.
I still don’t understand the point of that. They started him over Saha today which boggles the mind.
Ya
Its funny how the game completely turned around once Saha got into the game and Everton started pushing. I really wish Moyes would go more to an attacking form because this 4-4-1-1 is just not getting it done.
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0-0 draw with Real dominating 64% of possession
Canales is really young to be playing such an important role on the team. Guess he’s filling in until Kaka gets back. It’ll be great for his devo, but it ain’t gonna win Jose many games this season.
Ozil replaced Canales, sort of – hit a decent pass or two but didn’t do much better.
Their attack was very left-handed, with Ronaldo and Marcelo doing the grunt work along the line. Without Ramos hogging the ball over on the right they’re sorta lopsided – not much happens up the right touchline. Overall, the best chances they had usually were a result of Ronaldo – mostly just speed down the side and zipping the ball into the center.
DiMaria, IMO, is best on the LW, but Ronaldo spends the lion’s share of his time over there, so DiMaria is sorta weakened by this displacement.
Higuain doesn’t really look for his teammates much – he might be a little too occupied with the net sometimes. Needs to give a target or play a 1-2 pass more often.
Sami seems better than Lass, don’t know why Jose didn’t start him at CDM instead.
Xabi just seems lonely out there – like a tika without a taka. Maybe he can go to Arsenal when Cesc leaves and plunge himself into Arsene’s version of small ball.
Jose seemed more like an observer than a director during the game. I’m not sure he’s got a grip on the team yet. Between Sneijder’s comments and some of Jose’s own comments here recently, it doesn’t take a genius to see that he wants to replace Fergie at ManU when the old fart quits. This seems pretty awkward to me. He just started a years-long project that cost Real 100M euros [IIRC] in coaching acquisition fees to launch. Fergie can’t last much longer. Seems a little weird to me. Overall, between the Spanish entitlement to demand pretty soccer coupled with the limits Ronaldo’s temperament puts on his coaching expression, it seems to me that Jose is not the master of his own domain. Not sure he’s gonna be able to use all the tools in his shed on this job. Which again makes me feel like he’s got one foot out the door already headed to ManU.
Funny to see Real already chasing Barca after 1 round of games.
Re: Mourinho to United, I’ve been convinced for a while that that’s the job he’s targeting. It’s a massive catch-22 that’s perfect for someone with Mourinho’s ego…you get to go to United, but you have to follow the most the most successful, longest tenured and most identifiable manager in the modern era.
It would make sense but for one thing: The guy hops around too much. I would think SAF, who will have a massive say in who his successor will be, would want to pick someone who’d be capable (results willing) of being as inextricable as he was.
Seems like the guy would absolutely be the guy
who’d want to follow Ferguson’s track record.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
is there even an idea when Sir Alex is expected to leave ManU
or is he going to basically leave when he dies on the job?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 30, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
so milan wants ibra and robinho?
guess the inter success last season lit a fire under them…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
as a longtime Milan fan, this is both encouraging and frustrating
Apart from signing Thiago Silva and brining in Boateng on loan from Genoa, our biggest transfers have mostly been comprised of Madrid/Barcelona cast-offs (Huntelaar, Ibra, Fat Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, etc.). While Ronaldinho has started paying off more in the last year, I am torn between wanting Milan to be competitive (and sign the likes of Ibra and Robinho) and start signing more youngsters and taking their lumps for a year or two. Pato and Thiago Silva have worked out wonderfully, and I am disappointed to see Alberto Paloschi loaned out to Parma year after year. Paloschi could do as well if not better than Boriello given some time to click with the rest of the team. Watching Boriello against Lecce was not pleasant, and while Ibra will give us a boost in that department, I want to see us develop more young players.
A Pato/Paloschi front line would be plain fun to watch—particularly if we get a young playmaker behind them (Giuseppe Rossi?). That would be a trio that could grow together and win together. But sure…Ibra and Robinho…why the hell not play for 2nd/3rd place every year.
Given how cheap you guys are getting Ibra, I don't think there was much of a
by LiamP on Aug 30, 2010 12:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Goddamnit, iPhone.
I don’t think there was much of a choice. With Ibra and a healthy Pato, you’re real contenders for the Scudetto.
Also, I don’t know much about the Italian game, but I don’t think there’s a real chance for youth guys at the bigger clubs. That’s something that Kiko Macheda talked about when the papers were interviewing him about Balotelli’s transfer.
by LiamP on Aug 30, 2010 12:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's my assertion
Ibra at that price is something you just do because Borriello or Inzaghi is just not the answer.. Depending upon what Robinho’s price is, I think he’d be fantastic in that set-up as well. Pirlo and Ronaldinho’s incisive passes over the top suit Pato and would suit Robinho as well.
Although I do agree with naropean above that Milan usually farms their youngsters out for way too long and then just lets them go, all the while playing guys like Jankulovski, Oddo, Inzaghi and Ambrosini. blah
What's the rumpus?
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Ibra at that price is something you just do because Borriello or Inzaghi is just not the answer
Ibra at that price is a steal…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Aug 30, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like Huntelaar to Schalke rather than England
He, Raul and van der Vaart would be interesting together. Huntelaar and Raul themselves are a curious tandem. Lots of skill, though.
Yeah
I would not like that, I don’t think.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 31, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
United bought Bebe for 7mm.
What the fuck.
by LiamP on Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Deadline day.
Expect carnage in the media leading to very little actually happening.
Transfer rumors are way more out of control than trade rumors in any American sport.
by LiamP on Aug 31, 2010 8:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Have you met college football/basketball rumors?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 31, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh
My favorite one of the day so far- Soccernet’s Harry Harris posts a story that Spurs had agreed a deal with Liverpool for Ryan Babel- complete with rumors that he was on his way to London via helicopter to sign.
About 10 minutes after the story posted, Babel tweets “I’m not going anywhere- LFC- YNWA!!!”
Not that I should have expected any differently- Harry Harris’ “exclusives” on Liverpool are about as accurate as Stevie Wonder on an archery range.
Way too many "exclusive stories" about players being on their cell phones today.
God, I hate Transfer Deadline Day.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Aug 31, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Tidy little piece of business for Man City
Robinho cost City £32 million when signing for the club in a shock move from Real Madrid in 2008 but it is reported that they have recouped an initial payment in the region of £12.5 million.
I guess the total sum could be for a fair amount more.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 31, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions
Well
Window’s closed. Good to know Hicks kept his word from this article back in January:
“In an e-mail of his own to a fan, he intimated that Liverpool’s debt — in excess of £200 million — is more manageable than that of their great rivals.
He also insisted that while Liverpool will not be splashing out in the present transfer window, they are already planning to invest heavily in the summer to bolster Rafael Benítez’s squad, and claimed the long-awaited new stadium will be delivered.
"Our debt is very manageable (see Man U) and we never use player sales for debt service," Hicks Sr wrote in the e-mail, responding to concerns from a supporter that Liverpool will not be big spenders in January.
"Our interest on £200 million is about £16 million. The new stadium will be the game changer. January is a poor quality market. The summer window will be big."
Fourth straight transfer window where we’ve turned a profit, and no new stadium anywhere in sight! Hell of a job, Tom!
Now that he's no longer affiliated with the Rangers...
…keep on truckin’ Tom! Don’t let these haters get you down.
I love you.
by LiamP on Aug 31, 2010 4:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hicks
A couple folks on RAWK did a detailed analysis of the ins and outs of the club’s transfers going back the past four windows- basically starting with the sale of Keane back to Spurs.
Since that time, LFC has received almost 50 million pounds more in transfer sales than they’ve spent.
But no, there’s no financial crisis, everything is A-OK, and glory days are just around the corner! All we needed was a good Englishman like Roy and some good English players like Konchesky, and the trophies are going to roll in!
I pray to whatever god will listen, please give me a large blunt instrument, and 15 minutes alone with Hicks. Hell, I’d even take Gillett or Purslow if that’s all I can get.
Yeah he hasn't denied
that leaving Arsenal was a mistake. Too bad he didn’t have more foresight, him and Flamini both. Heck, Reyes, too.
by Brett Perryman on Aug 31, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
now i need to learn spanish
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
What do you think about the game tomorrow against Lichtenstein?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Sep 3, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I just realized they're translated below.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Sep 3, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah - but at least City players are heavily featured when Eng-uh-lund play
And maybe Silva will play some for Spain – doubt Balo’s ready for Italia.
City plays 7 times between 10-11 and 11-3 upon resumption of club play. Similar story for all our clubs probably.
are any of these international matches televised?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
WHY IS HE PLAYING MILNER INSTEAD OF JOHNSON
WHY IS HE PLAYING 4-4-2 WITH GERRARD
CAPELLLLOOOOOOOOOOO
by LiamP on Sep 3, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Heh
I’d question why England is setting up 4-4-2, but after reading “Inverting the Pyramid” and the daily tactical articles on Zonal Marking.com, I no longer wonder this. English football, and the people who manage it, are tactical idiots.
They’ll probably switch over to the 4-5-1/4-2-3-1 just as the rest of the world moves on to the next new thing.
Inverting the pyramid
just arrived at my door from amazon today
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Milner's looked fine. It's RW where AJ would look pretty nifty.
Walcott’s in form and all, but AJ shoulda at least started the 2nd half.
I almost commented on how great the Wembley pitch was playing when Dawson got hurt. Hope the new surface doesn’t get the blame.
They could take Barry off, move Milner into the middle and put AJ in.
We want us some Adam. Put him in, Cap-fart-O. See what I did there?
Cap-fart-O
Adam comes in and misses a long bender on the break and the camera shows Cap going apeshit on the bench. I wonder if he was going apeshit when Walcott was spraying all those balls and lacking the savvy and understanding of his teammates’ movement while he was on the field? I freakin’ hate Cap-fart-O.
He got the ball alot. He's fast and defenders back off him.
But he didn’t do anything with it. Maybe one nice pass where the Bulgarian keeper dove into a crowd at the front post and came up big. Johnson just woulda done so much more with the same amount of touches. And yes, I’m massively biased towards AJ. I don’t hate Walcott, but I do hate Cap-fart-O.
Shit final ball and decision making every time.
Pretty much par for the course for Walcott.
Milner's better off playing in the middle with Barry.
Johnson’s obviously the future on the left and he’s been in fine form. Totally pointless to not play him.
Rooney’s been magnificent today.
by LiamP on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Um, do England have a better option at RB than Glen Johnson?
He sure doesn’t seem very good, apart from the occasional bound forward.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
And they're down 1-0
The freaking JJ Barea clone, Valbuena, has been there best guy. They’ve been truly shit.
Interesting lineup by Blanc
I guess there are lots of injuries (including Benzema and Nasri) and suspensions.
by Brett Perryman on Sep 3, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Kuyt
Sounds like he snagged a shoulder ouchie. New boyz P and M will see lotsa MF PT now, I suppose.
More Time-Warner good/bad
The good: they have added GOLTV to the HD tier and in English, so that’s pretty awesome. Also, not soccer related, but as a part of their new Disney agreement, they added a college football/basketball HD channel that sounds similar to NFL Red Zone (which, of course, they don’t carry). It’s 798 here.
The bad: they got ESPN3.com added to their new agreement, but between them and ESPN they haven’t managed to give TWC customers access yet. I am guessing that it has to do with setting up the login interface and related data, but TWC supposedly doesn’t know why it’s not up and running yet. They have all of the qualifiers on there today, so it’s too bad that they don’t have it.
RVP out until mid-October with ankle problem.
Dude is the footballing equivalent of Mr. Glass.
England vs Switzzelstiks
Lescott starts beside Jagielka – rest of the lineup is the same as the Bulgaria game. AJ on the bench. Lescott has played very little CD recently. But he has defended well so far this season out on City’s left back.
uh oh - Walcott rolled his ankle
AJ peeling off his warmups. Theo looks like he’s got some serious pain. Arse is gonna need a new RW this weekend it looks like.




























