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New Evan Grant Newsletter up

Evan Grant has a new edition of his Rangers newsletter up...

Evan talks about potential free agent targets this offseason, including a discussion of whether bringing Adrian Beltre to Texas (which would allow Michael Young to move to DH) might be an option, along with several Cliff Lee questions, an Emily Jones question, and what is going to happen with Rich Harden, among other things...

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what about Aramis Ramizrez?

Coming off a bad, injury filled year but his OPS the last 5 years is over .900.

by kumizi on Aug 31, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

If you get Aramis...

…might as well stick him at DH and let Young stay at 3B.

by Adam J. Morris on Aug 31, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

my bad

i didnt know he was that bad in the field. havent really watched him in 2-3 years and thought he was adequate before.

by kumizi on Aug 31, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's much of an improvement over Young in the field

Is he?

Though I think he is an interesting “buy low” candidate. Even as a DH/3b platoon with Young. Maybe both would be better in the field if they weren’t out there every day

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Aug 31, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terrible in the field.

'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'

by scoop16 on Aug 31, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

BUT WHY WOULD YOU NEED A THIRD BASEMAN?

YOU’VE GOT MICHAEL YOUNG! HE’S AWESOME IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE AND ALSO SMILED AT ME ONCE SO THEREFORE HE IS GREAT!

/casual Ranger fan

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Aug 31, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

or Josey

"Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor."-Capote

by Schultzy on Aug 31, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Rangers signed Beltre...

and moved Young to DH my happy pants would explode.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 31, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Young ready to become a full time DH?

What I mean by that is he mentally ready to not play the field every day and still be able to prepare himself to to focus on something that only requires effort 4 to 5 times a night? I would personally love to see it as well I just wondered how everyone felt he would respond to it.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Aug 31, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I'd rather

they put Young out in Left field. he’s athletic enough for it.

Mal: Well, quite a lot of fuss. If I didn't know better, I'd think we were dangerous.

by iblum on Aug 31, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a thought.

LF and spell the middle infield from time to time?

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Aug 31, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking

just left field. utility infielders (as we have seen this year) are EASY to find…..

Mal: Well, quite a lot of fuss. If I didn't know better, I'd think we were dangerous.

by iblum on Aug 31, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young isn't going to be playing LF ever

Putting a crappy IF in the OF for the first time in his pro career isn’t going to help anything. And you aren’t moving Hamilton and Cruz out of the COF spots. As long as those 2 are here, no one is going to be moved to the COF spot.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 31, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus.
It’s now more than two years since Hurley has pitched in a game and he’s going to be 25 in three weeks, so the ability to come back is no sure thing.

Emphasis mine. Feel bad for the guy.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Aug 31, 2010 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

You have a strange memory.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 31, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blog comments:

super-trustworthy!

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Aug 31, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where the hell is he at?

Arizona? When was the last time he pitched off flat-ground?

by octoberty on Aug 31, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rehabbing with Justin Thompson, apparently.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 31, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evan is flat wrong
But despite the defensive shortcomings, which extend only to range (not hands or arm strength), Young remains one of the better overall options at third

OK, I’ll give him arm strength. But his 9 throwing errors are tied for first in the MLs. His 10 fielding errors are tied for third in the MLs. In total, his 19 errors do not demonstrate a player with good hands or an accurate arm.

by RangerMad on Aug 31, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

it's because Young gets to more balls than other 3Bs in the AL

duh!

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Aug 31, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's just wrong.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 31, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's actually

just a this year thing. in the past he was actually pretty fair at avoiding errors.

Mal: Well, quite a lot of fuss. If I didn't know better, I'd think we were dangerous.

by iblum on Aug 31, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or the errors were not regarded as such by the official scorers.

If it were up to me, Young would probably have 10-12 more than he has been given.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 31, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young usually has been pretty good at fielding what he gets to

This year, he hasn’t done that at all and has struggled in getting to balls as well as fielding whats towards him.

His arm strength is great, but his throws have never been the most accurate. This year, when Davis hasn’t played 1B, that’s shown to be more of a problem than in the past too.

Given his age, I don’t expect things to get better.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 31, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Opinion question:

I started looking at shutdown innings (on a lark; thanks B-R)…

Should I count shutdown innings produced by two pitchers together (such as happened in game 2 of the year, when O’Day and Oliver combined for one)? Or just give each pitcher credit only if he completes it?

by ftwdrummer on Aug 31, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

there likely won't be too many

just create a multiple or team category

by RangerMad on Aug 31, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, I went ahead and decided to give partial credit.

Mostly because it was the only way Oliver got any in April; also, it could then lend itself to something like “shutdown inning percentage.”

So far (through the month of April), the team leader is Colby Lewis, with nine.

The bullpen leader, on the other hand, is…Chris Ray, with 3 2/3.

by ftwdrummer on Aug 31, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Half-inning following a half-inning in which we scored...

In which the opposing team did not score.

If I have time, I might go back and track “super-shutdown” innings, (innings after we scored where we didn’t allow a base-runner).

by ftwdrummer on Aug 31, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers interested in Francoeur
The Rangers are considering Mets right fielder Jeff Francoeur as a bench option, reports ESPN’s Adam Rubin. Francoeur has about $897K remaining on his contract and is likely to be non-tendered after the season. The 26-year-old is hitting just .236/.293/.369 in 443 plate appearances.

"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan

by texasrfan on Aug 31, 2010 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

NO!!!

just say NO to Francoeur. In the pantheon of people who have no plate discipline, he stands out as someone who just doesn’t walk. at all. get Juan Pierre first. no wait. don’t get either……

Mal: Well, quite a lot of fuss. If I didn't know better, I'd think we were dangerous.

by iblum on Aug 31, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this has been news for about 1.5 weeks

I hope it’s not down to an either/or with him or Tavares.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Aug 31, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, does this go in the plus column or the negative column when Cliff is deciding on our offer this winter?
According to Cliff Lee, Maddux’s game-planning is the most thorough and detailed he’s ever seen.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Aug 31, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I was just getting ready to post this.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Aug 31, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and I think that's fantastic advertising for future FAs.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Aug 31, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would think it couldn't hurt.

Lee seems to be a very intelligent pitcher, relying on poorly hit pitches more than strikeouts.

by Philar on Aug 31, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its definintely a plus

But again, its going to come down to the money.

What this really says is that the Rangers clearly made the right decision when they decided to sign Maddux as the pitching coach.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Aug 31, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

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