Zack Greinke is not happy
by boomer1 on Aug 5, 2010 6:34 PM CDT
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Maybe Moore will have a AARP moment and say fine you want out here you go.
Now all this might mean nothing right now but what if he continues to pop off and tries to force the Royals hand? Now that the Rangers have GnR in place might they take a run at Greinke in the offseason? If so what would be the cost? Perez and Font for Greinke would ya?
UPDATE: ESPN.com's Buster Olney suggests the Royals will probably start seriously listening to offers for Zack Greinke this winter. The reigning Cy Young Award winner expressed his frustration with the organization yesterday.
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Of course
but that doesn’t sound like enough to me
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
Not yet it doesn't
Give it time. It’s like grillin’ low and slow then BOOM!
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
EWWW!!!
Greinke + Lee for the nexxt two years!
Id deal half our top 6 to get him pretty easily.
Feliz says his greatest thrill was striking out Boston Red Sox DH David Ortiz, one of his heroes. Yet, when he called to tell his parents, his mother had a request: Strike out New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, too.
"So when I did that," Feliz says, "I told my mom, 'There you go. There's your present. Don't ask me to strike anyone else out, OK?'
I'd be so pissed if I were
Grienke or really any decent Royals player. Or a fan, of course. That was once a great franchise. They have a beautiful park. Historically it’s a good baseball town and they’d come out in droves if they had any faith in that team. And they’re in a winnable division. It’s not like they’re Baltimore or anything and have a million juggernauts ahead of them. What the fuck is their problem?
Oh and I’d give anything in the system up for Grienke, pending a thorough physical.
It was a great time growing up in KC as a kid in the 80’s…George Brett, Bo Jackson, Brett Saberhagen.
I don’t even follow them anymore, they’re a damn joke.
"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...
Best Farm System
Goldstein, at Newberg Night, said the Royals have the best farm system. I asked Law the same question. He said that it is unfair to do the rankings before the draft signing deadline, but at the moment he agrees with Goldstein. All is not lost for the Royals.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Aug 5, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen.
Moose Tacos, Handsome Hosmer, etc.
That farm system is so fucking sexy.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Aug 5, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not even counting the
half dozen left-handed pitching studs: Monty, Dwyer, Lamb, etc.
That's why they call them business sox
Who was the dude who retired to work on an ice cream truck in Upper Volta or some shit?
That was a pretty big blow, but their system is deep enough if didn’t even make that much of a dent.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Is that Duffy, and didn't that dude just randomly come back to the club in the last few weeks?
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Young, powerful
and holy shit are they left handed.
"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington
Left handed!?!? What are they, a buncha Kansas City farm-hands!?!?!?!?
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Perhaps I'm blinded by JD's awesomeness and overly confident in his wizard powers, but I'm not convinced we'd have to give up Marteen
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 5, 2010 7:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
QUANTITY!
Think it, go ahead…
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Exactly
Imagine a well-financed JD matching up with a Dayton Moore desperate to get some value, any value out of a disgruntled Greinke.
That’s a recipe for legalized theft if there ever was one.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 5, 2010 7:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You know, there's lots to make fun of with Moore...
…but he and his crew can identify young talent. Just look at their farm system.
I may concede that point
And raise it…look at all the young talent the Rangers possess now. Let them pick from a select list and it should be fair to both sides.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I prefer "theft" to "fair"
Its more fun when the media and blogs laud your awesome GM and mock the other GM.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 5, 2010 9:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Thats what is so bizarre
As good as their farm system is, they have been horrific at making big league roster moves.
How much of that farm talent is due to just having a favorable draft position? Even the pre-Silverman Rays put together good young talent because they had a top pick year after year.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 5, 2010 8:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Top draft picks doesn't guarantee top talent
Take a look at Houston. They even reached for Deshields because they were afraid someone was going to take him. You think they would have been able to sign him at slot or slightly below. They still went overslot for him. There are many other draft picks where they’ve completely screwed it up. Somehow a blind squirrel found a nut with Jordan Lyles, who was just promoted to AAA @ 19 after dominating the Texas League
It's about to happen.
I can’t wait.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
You'd better hope for an ERA meltdown next year then.
Your only hope of not giving up Perez would be a combination of KC deciding to cut payroll and Greinke stinking it up (at least in conventional terms) in 2011.
Well, Moore is pretty stupid.
So maybe. But even if that’s what it took I’d do it, no problem.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Not a problem
Will do.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
There you go
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
this
do we have any shitty shortstops that we can give him. heck, I’d throw Sardinas and Lemon their way. The Royals GM would take that for sure if he likes Betancourt so much
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Yeah... Sardinas does not belong in the "shitty SS" conversation.
He could be as good as Profar some day, just different.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Hamilton for Greinke...
who says no?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
That's Tough
…but only because you’re constantly worried about Hamilton being injured. Otherwise he’s more valuable playing everyday and scaring the shit out of AL pitchers. At least you’re pretty sure Wash wouldn’t have Grienke in CF.
by Black Francis on Aug 5, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
are we?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Can he bunt?
"There's really no way of knowing... Sometimes when I see their big eyes looking up from my lap I think, that's definitely a homeless guy in a fur coat." Betty White on SNL
Actually, Greinke is a pretty good hitter, is he not?
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Hamilton is also older and this is the first time since he was a young, clean prospect that he's more valuable than Greinke, and it's not by a whole lot.
The only thing that would give me pause is Hamilton’s marketability. I’d miss him, but that trade would be so awesome.
Not us
"I don’t know how these SN blog authors get their gigs, but I’m frankly surprised SN tolerates AJM’s lack of effort." Tex34
At the end of the day.... Nolan Ryan will be the next control owner of the Texas Rangers Baseball Club.
by bigoil on Jul 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think I could do it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Staff Ace via FA or TRade
For those of you keeping better track of TORPs likely available via FA or trade during the off-season, Does Lee rank as the best of the bunch or are there one or two others that peak your interest? Who are your top five (if there are that many)?
FAs ain't pretty, lemme just say that
The following players have contracts expiring or should have the six years of service necessary to become free agents after the 2010 season.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2001/05/potential-free-agents-for-2011.html
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Does it matter
The team has options for all of the non-TORP spots in the rotation (and should still have a pretty salty bullpen). There are no real non-Lee TORPs out there this year.
Oswalt will probably be a FA next offseason, but obviously he’s staying put this offseason. I imagine the Cardinals take care of Carpenter.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Others that are interesting
Beckett
Webb
Beckett will probably want a lot also, and there’s a little concern that his FIP and xFIP are in the 4s now.
Webb obviously has some health issues.
Becket has already signed an extension.
Along the lines of Lackey’s. Webb will do good to get a minor league deal with all of his injuries.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Fair enough
I was going off the list he was linked to.
This is an overstatement: "Webb will do good to get a minor league deal with all of his injuries."
Bedard, Sheets, Duchscherer all got actual money in major league deals this winter, and Webb will, too.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Aug 5, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I kinda forced your hand by saying "this" Winter when I suppose "last" would've been easier to understand.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Dude was an idiot to sign an extension.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
Yep
but I can’t blame him for it. There’s been a lot of uncertainty in his life, between the early collapse and the depression. Anytime you’re offered 20+ million dollars, you’re tempted. Even if everyone around you tells you you’re worth more.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan
I know I'm in the minority.
But I would rather do Perez over Holland.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
This is an impossible question to answer without more info.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
Hell, if we're signing one and trading for the other...
Why not both?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
she attractive?
"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar
by TagDon'tTweet on Aug 6, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
the real question is...
would you make out with her at a bar?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Okay, I have to ask
Would you make out with EA at a bar?
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
It may actually be impossible.
To get past her vulturenose, you’d have to have some kind of lip extnsion device or something.
Okay, even though I find her hot that made me laugh out loud
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Oh, I am fairly certain your highly entertaining "enthusiastic strippers" comment on my Facebook yesterday caused a few eyebrows to be raised
Some of my hometown Facebook friends probably thought “what in the world has that boy been up to since he went off to law school and got that fancy law license.”
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I've got to have someone who will ride in the Lamborghini with me
After all, what good is a car like that if you have to ride in it all alone?
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
O'Dea, huh?
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
by LSJ on Aug 6, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
He’s a soccer player. Not our O’Day
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
HAHA... a comment from the article....
Texas might be a good fit after they fail to sign Lee this offseason. Very relaxed no pressure fanbase as 40+ years of being the worst franchise in sports has kept expectations low.
They clearly have never met me.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
by LSJ on Aug 7, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Worst franchise in sports?
Really?
The Clippers don’t count?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
The Browns too?
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Does anybody think Tommy Hunter could headline a package that would land him without MarPer and Shepps in it?
Drayton might do that….. He might see Feldman as valuable too(not headling it though)
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