Friday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 6, 2010 9:54 AM CDT
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8.5 up on Oakland, 10 up on Anaheim, and new ownership coming. Enjoy this season, folks.
Jeff Wilson writes that Tommy Hunter bounced back from his last outing, which was his worst of the year.
T.R. Sullivan says that the Rangers pitchers had baserunners on base throughout the game, but were able to get out of trouble.
David Murphy is in the lineup because of his bat right now.
Anthony Andro has a story about the changes that the new ownership hopes to bring.
Brad Townsend has a Q&A with Mark Cuban about the auction process and Cuban's decision to drop out.
Evan Grant says that Nolan Ryan is a people person.
Tim Cowlishaw says that Greenberg/Ryan winning the bidding is a good thing for the Rangers.
Randy Galloway is glad Tom Hicks is gone.
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325 in the house.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 9:57 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
formerly 915, back in my day
it was also uphill in the snow both ways
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
San Angelo
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 2:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey I'm in the 325 too (Stamford)
325 represents!!
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Sweet! And RangersSD
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 4:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm currently in the 806, but for school purposes yes.
Don’t forget Cav0 he’s repping the 325 during school
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Dallas Braden shouldn't mess with us
The 209 may be tough, but it’s got nothing on the 325.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Fact
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
And if things got scrappy enough, we could just haul him out to the 940/806 territory between Stamford and Lubbock
He definitely couldn’t hang. There’s some rough boys in the wilds of Stonewall, Kent, King, and Garza counties.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Ya, granted he was in the 806 for a year,
it wasn’t nothing. Those are some mean areas.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
He went to school inside the Loopular though
Outside the 289, that’s where s*** gets real.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I like Tommy Hunter
yeah, I know his peripherals, yeah I know his BABIP.
Maybe it’s a reaction to seeing Padilla meltdown when things went bad, despite being a more talented pitcher, but I like Tommy Hunter. He can be in the back end of my rotation any time.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
by DJCahill on Aug 6, 2010 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I get ripped for being somebody that doesn't look too much into stats
So that’s why it’s so good to come in here after Tommy is 9-1 and remember back when he came into the rotation, so many people were chewing off their fingernails. Tommy has the ability to do great things, and he’s shown it on the mound.
by Perfect Zero on Aug 6, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have to say
I was much happier seeing Hunter in than Harrison at the beginning of the season, even though Harrison probably has more top end as a pitching prospect.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
I don't think that's really true.
Unless you’re confusing Harrison with Holland.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
agreed
and do we not think Hunter has the ability to get even better with age?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha
Maybe I find this so funny because I have zero faith in Matt Harrison. I am convinced he is going to screw it up every time he comes in.
I like him much better in the bullpen.
I don’t really ever want to see him starting again though. He’s kind of like a left-handed Doug Mathis to me.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
He's done very well out there
I was convinced that he’d be far worse out of the bullpen than as a starter, but it turns out I was wrong. Maybe the bullpen gives him the focus he lacked as a starter
Go Rice Owls!
seems he can amp it up a bit more there, too
I like him as a cheap, in-house lefty bullpen arm
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think this is accurate
So that’s why it’s so good to come in here after Tommy is 9-1 and remember back when he came into the rotation, so many people were chewing off their fingernails.
I think, around here, anyway, people generally wanted Hunter back in the rotation. I don’t think there were many folks thinking he was going to bomb.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 6, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
There were definitely folks
who really wanted Harrison over Hunter. Don’t think they were the majority though.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
I wanted Harry to get a shot to start the season
But I never really wanted it at the expense of Hunter. I still think Harry has very good stuff and may turn out to be a good pitcher. But Hunter, despite his stuff not being overwhelming, already is a good pitcher.
Really, my preference was always Harrison over Holland to start the season – I thought Holland could use more time in AAA; he was rushed last season and there was no hurry for him this year. Hunter proved himself to me last year – I never had a problem with him in the rotation.
Go Rice Owls!
I think he could grow into a starter with a year or 2 under his belt
In a lower pressure environment, like Pitt or KC, or even SD, even though they don’t need him.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Eh
I think he’ll always be a high variance/good stuff/variable command guy. He may develop consistency in the future, but I think he’s a bullpen guy for a good/great team and a No. 4 starter for a below average one.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I never said wht type of starter...
heh
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"good pitcher" seems to be the important words.
by diamond_dave on Aug 6, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
true
but “good pitcher” the way I think you’re talking about it Holland wasn’t “good” last year either.
Go Rice Owls!
The rotation at the start of the year
It was going to be Harden, Feldman, Wilson, Lewis, and Hunter.
If Harrison was going to start the season in the rotation, it was going to be for Hunter.
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 6, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
back when people wanted to keep CJ in the pen
and start Harrison or Holland instead
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
going into spring training
there were many questionmarks. Hunter ended up injured, and CJ excelled as a starter.
I would have thought, before spring started, that my ideal rotation was Harden, Feldman, Lewis, Hunter, Harrison.
Most people would have had Holland at #5. A few would have slotted CJ in there, but most didn’t really think that was a real option until spring progressed a bit.
Go Rice Owls!
this viewpoint never made sense to me
it isn’t like Harrison got any time in AAA, and it isn’t like he was setting the Majors on fire either.
by elvis1isking on Aug 6, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Justin Upton
If they gave Dan Haren for one year of Joe Saunders, imagine what they’d give for 5 years of a “proven winner” like Tommy Hunter
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Aug 6, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think I could have done another year
of Millwood / Padilla.
How did we ever expect to win anything?
Look at this. Amazing how far we've come.
“The rotation does appear set with Millwood, Padilla, Jennings, McCarthy and Gabbard. The Rangers insist there will be competition in Spring Training and health issues could change that scenario.”
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 10:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Drastic upgrade at each spot, 1-5.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Millwood was such a head scratcher
And especially hard for lifelong fans who’ve been starved for, at the very least, a proven consistent #1 starter. And instead, we get fucking Kevin Millwood leading the charge.
It was like being promised a bike and getting a fucking unicycle.
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 10:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If Millwood really
wanted to make the committment to doing the work to being a bigtime pitcher, I think he could have been one of the top 20 year in and year out.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
I agree mostly, though top 20 might have been a stretch in recent years
but if you look at Millwood’s numbers, he’s had a pretty solid career (career FIP 3.97) that probably could have been a little better if he had consistently had the work ethic of say, CJ Wilson or Michael Young.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
with a flat tire.
flattened because the guy sitting on the unicycle was a fat, out of shape slob would wouldn’t care enough about his job to get in shape.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Looking back on spring training '07 is ever so hilarious
We actually thought we where going places with a rotation of Millwood, Padilla, McCarthy, Tejeda and Loe.
Oh dear.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
He's been pretty awesome this year
164 ERA+
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
not as good as Jack Benny
wonder where Otsuka is?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Retirement home?
He’s gotta be pushing 40 now, right?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
dammit
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Today is the make or break day, bud.
The picture will be clear after the dust settles tonight…
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
my team is done
Fat Panda has f’d me royally this year
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Then lay down so I can make up some ground.
And what’s with you calling out Green for some late night booty call action? Can’t we all just get along? : )
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Green is the biggest piece of shit.....we played in HS summer leagues and then in college together, I"ve ragged his ass for 15+ yrs....
mainly because he is a bumkin from Aubrey, but really BECAUSE HE IS FROM AUBREY TEXAS AND IS A YANKEES FAN….and one of those that just starts pointing to the scoreboard (world championships) when you try to argue anything with him.
I hate him so much.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate regression time.
but not as much as the Mariners do!
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
I think Hunter was the anti-2009 Derek Holland.
Holland had great stuff but would get flustered when balls fell in and he had men on base and had to pitch out of jams.
Hunter just gets meaner with men on base. With men in scoring position, he goes into full dirkatron eating babies and kicking puppies mode of meanness….
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
by iblum on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
PUNKS JUMP UP TO GET BEAT DOWN
And right now the rest of the AL West is looking like the front row at a Rancid concert.
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 10:00 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm liking Mitch Moreland.
He looks like he belongs in the bigs. Feeling pretty comfortable with a Cantu/Moreland platoon for the rest of the year and they can both play other positions too. Way to go again JD.
I like Moreland too
It is amazing what happens when you have a low ceiling but serviceable first baseman out there.
Go Rice Owls!
Yeah
His approach has been enjoyable to watch.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Just listened to that Cuban/Galloway bickerfest.
Well, most of it, anyways. As soon as Galloway stopped listening entirely and was just saying over and over “I’m dropping aces on you! I’m dropping aces on you!!” I turned it off. What a jerkoff.
I now you're going to hate this question. But what happened exactly?
I have seen this mentioned a few times, but never listen to Galloway. I’ve got the general idea down, but could somebody fill me in with some specifics?
by michael bluth on Aug 6, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Cuban calls in because Galloway was apparently accusing Cuban of getting "kickbacks."
They argue whether Galloway said “kickbacks,” and argue whether the processes were leagl or whatnot, then they argue about whether Cuban was trying to get the team or just drive up the price. It sucked.
That is why I avoid Galloway.
Thanks, though.
by michael bluth on Aug 6, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I disagree
that jawing back and forth was pretty entertaining. Randy brought up some good points, but Cuban handled himself pretty well. He also stated what many of us had been talking about – whether or not he would have kept on JD and the rest of the FO.
x
You find it entertaining, I find it exhausting. Cuban handled himself very well. Galloway is an ass.
RG's column today comes out swinging at those who have
been on the Hicks payroll and were forced to either look the other way or perform wonderful acts of public admiration on him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The way Galloway behaved in that interview.
Essentially never listening to one word Cuban said and insisting he is right, and the one shining example of truth, I am convinced you are in fact Randy Galloway. Probably explains why everyone dislikes you so much.
hmmm
insisting he is right, and the one shining example of truth
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
The thing that bothered me most
in that interview was the way Galloway wrapped it up, and the way he laughed… Acting good natured, arrogant, as if he and Cuban were just two DFW power brokers having a disagreement.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly, he cajoled, joked and "good old boy'ed" his way out of handling Cuban's complaint
BTW, did anybody hear his “interview” with Greenberg, where he all but insisted that the MFYs already have a done deal in their pocket to sign Lee this offseason? Aw shucks’ed his way out of the whole “that’s tampering and they wouldn’t do that” point.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
was Cuban's blog entry before or after the Galloway article?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
What did a weathervane ever do to deserve that comparison?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Aug 6, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
insulting to weathervanes everywhere
the wroght-iron chicken on my roof demands an apology
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
he has become a caricature of himself
He just manufactures controversy, i don’t think even he takes himself seriously anymore
by thedudeabides on Aug 6, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't mind his column
from today. I am stating he is generally an ass. I find him pretty entertaining, nonetheless.
I thought Grandpa Urine
liked Hicks……
maybe I’m confused. (well… not maybe)
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Been ripping his ass publicly
for the last 5-6 years.
It became very apparent to anybody with a brain that Tom Hicks didn’t give a shit about winning after the 2004 season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I wonder
when Hicks realized that he was (or could be) in financial trouble
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think right before
they ran off ARod. I think he made a big bet that the Rangers would have a winning team and have sellouts every night and when the team tanked you had to think he was shaving payroll to stay afloat.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
D Magazine had a very big article on Hicks
being out of money….wanna say it was around 2002.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I wonder...was this a dig at Newberg?
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
"There is a LSB party at my place when the Rangers make the playoffs" - TagDon'tTweet
Wait!
This would imply that Cuban listens to Granpa Urine. My small amount of respect for Cuban has just diminished
Grandpa Urine is a great nickname.
Well played by The Ticket (Gordon Keith Production?).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I think Cuban is in full-blown damage control mode.
He’s got several interviews up, and now the call-in. He’s frantically going around trying to make sure he isn’t now the villian-billionaire in Dallas.
He didn't do anything wrong.
All will be forgotten in a few months.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Everything ever said about Cuban
is a bit overblown, always has been.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Cuban called Galloway on the kickback
accusations and wanted to know who said it and said Galloway was just pulling stuff out of his ass.
LOL
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by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
This sketch from Fallon and Will Ferrell, on the other hand...
…where they have fake hands, is pretty funny. If only Fallon could stop laughing during sketches. I’m convinced he does it because he thinks it makes things funnier.
damn that was funny
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I quit watching because of that
after the very first episode
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
dropping aces on you
what the hell does that even mean?
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Poker reference
to holding cards back?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Cuban was saying....
….that he was going to make Galloway check his hold card (comparing their bickery dance to a game of poker), and insinuating that Cuban’s hand was bigger, so Galloway just starts saying, “I’m dropping aces on you!” overandover.
Word to your moms
I came to drop bombs
I’ve got more rhymes
Than the Bible has Psalms.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
read the sig
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Daniels
Ryan said the contract of Daniels is less pressing because it doesn’t expire until after next year.
That’s a little troubling…..
Can't he opt out this off-season?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 10:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes
It’s been reported that he can opt out upon a change in ownership, which will occur next week.
by Darrell McKown on Aug 6, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
It's also been reported...
… that he can opt-out only if the new ownership didn’t include Ryan.
Since it includes Ryan, the opt-out would be a non-factor.
by Oracle Galvez on Aug 6, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
If it's true
I think that should put to bed these notions that JD & Nolan don’t get along.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
First I've heard of that
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Me too - linky Oracle?
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
apparently
it’s a reading comprehension thing on my part. Everything I find discusses only the possibility of staying/going based on GnR getting ownership. No link to back up what I thought I had read.
by Oracle Galvez on Aug 6, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
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Q: There’s been talk about your contract and the opportunity to opt out. Do you want to stay here?
Daniels: I’ve been pretty clear on that point. I couldn’t imagine a better situation as far as quality of people that I have the opportunity to work with on a daily basis and a community that my family and I really like. I’m sure at some point I’ll get the opportunity to talk about it, but that’s the farthest thing from my mind.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/would-jon-daniels-jump-ship-to-the-mets.php
That's an answer but a bad question
Do you want to stay here? I like it here.
Are you going to stay here? _
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
That wasn't the question.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I think that is wrong
I’m pretty sure it’s any change in ownership. When he got his contract he had no idea Nolan would be buying the team.
was Ryan even with the team
when JD got his contract?
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
cool
thanks
You hear about the "Electric Arms", they're all the rage.
"If the Rangers have marked improvement in 2010, I'm going to need to give JD credit." Josey Wales, Feb. 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST
I still get the feeling
That Nolan has only marginal interest in keeping JD. Which sucks bc after this year, JD needs to get a HUGE extension but doesnt look like its gonna happen. Just hope and pray JD is here for years to come but im losing faith in that.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
Don't break your JTC Mat!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
But I thought Cuban was the one who was going to chase away JD?
We were being told incessantly by the anti-Cuban crowd around here that Cuban meant that leadership would probably change, so root for GnR….
Go Rice Owls!
I've always thought JD was going to test free agency
because his perceived value has never been higher and the Mets may very well want him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
but
the same people who “perceive” his value to he at an all-time high ALSO understand that he would’ve fallen on his face without Nolan holding his hand. It’s an interesting dichotomy.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I've given JD nothing but praise for his performance, to date, this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
but you don't seem to understand
that the good team last year and the great team this year are a biproduct of his overall work product. Has he swung and missed? Yes….a couple of times badly. But he’s also hit a bunch of home runs. And those homers weren’t bloopers that sliced around the Pesky Pole. They were 600 foot grand slams that blew out all the lights in the stadium ala Roy Hobbs. He has done a great job this year…but the key components to this team that are making this season possible weren’t all picked up this year. As with anyone thrust in a new job, he had a lot of learning to do, but instead of drowning, he learned how to swim. And not just swim…he’s swimming at a Spitz-like rate (especially considering how he improved the team with the budgetary constraints of the last year). Does the presense of Nolan help him? Sure…Nolan’s a “baseball guy.” He knows people, he knows players, he knows how to run an organization and he knows players. But to say that it’s a hand-holding relationship instead of a mutual relationship between the two is based purely on fantasy and not on anything anyone has ever said that’s verifiable by facts.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 6, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 14 recs
Thank you.
How anyone can look at this year’s team and not acknowledge JD’s work from the past couple of years is amazing to me.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
A big reason This Thing has been successful this year
was because JD completed 3 Hail Marys (Vlad, Oliver, Cobra) in the off-season. Give him full credit for getting these deals done but there was also a large element of luck required for this to happen.
I’m not denigrating what JD did at all but a big reason we’ve been so successful this year was because of luck. What if the Angels sign Vlad? What if Cobra Lewis doesn’t have such a bad agent?
Some people are going to read this as criticism of JD but it’s not. The bar was raised on JD by Nolan Ryan and to JD’s credit, he got there.
Is he now what could be considered a really good GM or is he a relative spare GM who happened to have a good year? I’m not sure yet (the best GMs have multiple years of success and JD has yet to be successful and we’re in his 5th year) but I know he works better with Nolan Ryan as a sounding board.
I still think he’s leaving…not because Nolan is pushing him out but because he wants to go some place where he can get out from under Ryan’s shadow.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Are you familiar with our starting shortstop?
How about our closer?
Oh, and our MVP candidate /ex-addict?
And what about our right fielder?
etc
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't bother
Talking to a wall would give you a better answer.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Are you familiar with 2006-2008?
I will give JD a ton of credit for this year but I’m not going to excuse his first three years on the job.
This Thing was a mess after 2008 (four consecutive losing seasons, lowest attendance in 20 years, 967 runs allowed, most errors in MLB, The Face wanted to be traded) and only became better when Nolan Ryan rolled up his sleeves and went to work.
To JD’s credit, he got there this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Josey, it's time you let the healing begin brotha.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Have I given JD his deserved credit for this year?
He’s done an excellent job in trying circumstances…what else do I have to say!?!?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
You qualify everything with phrases like "in trying circumstances."
Just say “Jon Daniels has done an excellent job building this team and deserves to be recognized as the singular best general manager in all of major league baseball this year,” and we may give you some credit.
Let the season breathe some more.
More golf left to play.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Fair enough.
I was just answering your question. You have, in no way, given credit to JD without massive qualifiction, so it’s really not giving “JD his deserved credit for this year.”
I'm not going to look the other way
and try to spin positively what went down from October 2005-2008.
It was awful and there are major reasons that fans turned their back to the degree they did and why Nolan Ryan was hired.
We’re here now…and the Ryan / JD Marriage works.
I’m just going to be surprised when JD walks, hell, Hindman said he was gone last weekend and I agree with him (although it may be for different reasons).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
There were some positives, yes, but if JD
had done a better job, Nolan Ryan wouldn’t have been hired and fans wouldn’t have deserted the team.
JD took over a young team one year removed from winning 89 games with all those players in place, a minor league system stocked with top shelf talent knocking on the door (Kinsler, AG, Danks, CJ, Eddy V), received a huge bump in payroll and had a nice trade chip in Soriano.
What happened?
The organization shit the walls plain and simple.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
You want to talk about luck?
Ryan was hired after the major moves in the rebuilding plan had already happened. It was nice for him to come along for the ride.
How many players on the current major league roster were acquired because of Ryan? How many scouts has he hired? How many Martin Perez’s has he signed?
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I never really thought of it that way
Nolan is the coattail riding lucky bastard, not JD. Hmmmm……
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
There was a lot of talent here
and in the minor leagues back in 2006.
Lots of the players from 2008 are still here.
How come they couldn’t win more than they did?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Because young players don't turn into superstars overnight
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
So wanna give JD credit for 2010
but absolve him of blame for the crap we had to watch from 2006-2008.
Got it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
2006-2008 != crap
It equals learning (as the youngest GM in baseball and also as a 1st time GM), building for THIS 2010 team and beyond, and also inheriting players/personnel of previous management.
Let’s live in the past, and dream about the future. Let’s move on.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
no..not absolve him from the bad moves
I wish we had Danks anchoring the rotation…I wish we had AGon at 1B instead of a continuing platoon of uncertainty and inconsistency. But I’ve evaluated him in 2 ways: weighed The Good vs The Bad (there is more Good than Bad) AND seen the reduction of Bad over the years (he is clearly improving), so based on THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCE (a cop term meaning to take EVERYTHING in and make a decision), JD gets a good grade from me OVERALL. A B..maybe B+. The 2010 JD gets an A+++ across the board.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
When you are rebuilding a team
You are going to have a losing season or two mixed in. 06 ended up disappointing, but was a surprisingly strong season from a crappy team. 07 and 08 were poor years with plenty of promise. 09 was the beginning of the Rangers winning. Now 2010 is where they have taken the next step from a solid, winning team to a championship contender.
Now if you want to be a dumbass about things, you can ignore the entire process it takes to have a year like 2010 and write off JD’s work then as a failure. But of course, you wouldn’t do that because you’re not a dumbass, right?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
And JD took over a very sweet situation
and fucked it all up to the degree that a very young talented team with all kinds of nice pieces in place both in The Show and in the minor leagues, somehow, some way had to undergo a complete rebuild 1.5 years after he was given the keys to the car.
That’s how you get a 20 year low in attendance and a new boss.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Yeah, it was sweet dude
Take a team with little to no pitching, no defense, a power hungry manager who pissed off the entire clubhouse, a terrible farm system, and oh yeah, your great offensive members are about to get really expensive.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Aug 6, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the 04 team was interesting
10 hitters hit more than 10 home runs. our starters had ERA’s of 4.20, 4.76, 5.61, 5.68, and 5.46 (with Johnny Wasdin’s 6.78 thrown in there).
decent bullpen, though…..
the 05 team was just as interesting. 9 hitters who had 15+ home runs, at least Kenny Rogers was halfway decent. Coco taking over the closers spot. and they outscored their competition despite going 80-82.
the 06 team outscored their competition by 50 runs despite going 80-82. (pythagorean W-L of 86-76)
the 07 team was bad, but in transition. 47-59 at the deadline, they pretty much did what a bad team has to do. dump your best players for prospects (and the guys they got were super good).
of course doing that means the next year is going to suck, and 08 did… but at least we were younger…..
fun fact: if the season ended today the Rangers will have increased their win percentage for the third straight year.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Stop!
Just stop arguing. You cannot win.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
JD took over
a 79 win team.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
Logic does not apply
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
That was 13 months removed from going
89-73. The core of that team was young and still here plus JD also received a big bump in payroll (21%).
If I credit JD for this year, who gets the blame for what happened in 2006-2008?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
13 months from 89-73
and one month from 79-83. Why is it that you always cite the 89-73, hm?
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They were also
25 months from a 71 win season.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
by DJCahill on Aug 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and 37 months
from a 72 win season.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
by DJCahill on Aug 6, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Josey
I think you severely overestimate the influence that Ryan has in personnel decisions. Ryan handles less of the player handling and more of the macro-club handling issues. He certainly has his input at the table – but JD pulls the roster strings and sets the plan.
Ryan is a good businessman, a great promoter and marketer, and lends his expertise on individuals (Oswalt) and the on-field team (pitching philosophies). But there IS an ABSOLUTE DELINEATION of job roles.
Replace Jim Knox
Every decision the front office makes
is a group one. Nolan has input on some of them, as do the people that work under Daniels. One thing I’ve always liked about Daniels is that he spreads credit around liberally when things go well and focuses blame on himself when they do not. He’s a good manager of people in that way.
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Yeah...
…I’m not saying it’s not a group decision. But that doesn’t mean that decision are heavily weighted towards individuals. Creating decisions that need to be brought to a consensus usually are derived through JD’s work.
Replace Jim Knox
How about you just don't incessantly mention it?
When asked a question about how he’s doing, just confine the discussion to how he IS doing, not always couching things in how he DID.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Have you read anywhere in here
where I have not given JD credit for doing a good job, to date, this year?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
last response...promise
you can’t give him “credit for doing a good job, to date, this year.” It doesn’t work that way. 2006+2007+2008+2009=2010. You have to take the good with the bad. You can’t qualify it by saying “to date, this year.” This year wouldn’t have happened without the previous ones.
Done.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Without a disclaimer of some sort??
Nope, I can’t recall one without a caveat. Maybe there are 1-2 such posts around, but they are buried under the volume of ones with a disclaimer.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
The Cruz deal
heppened at the trade deadline in 06.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Gagne trade, Lofton trade
2007 draft, Martin Perez signed for $580K. Yeah, 2007 was a pretty good year.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Martin Perez = magic bean
He’s still worthless, t.
You must’ve forgotten that.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
For your simple mind,
it’s the top of the 7th.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Wait, so the entire season is like one long game, right?
I’m trying to figure it out, Wales. Your bullshit metaphors are tough on this imagination sometimes.
Are we home or away?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Aug 6, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
7-3 top of the 7th
about to face the meat of the order.
Mow ‘em down 1-2-3 this inning and it’s likely ovah.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Let's play with this analogy a bit
Let’s use yesterday’s Bos-Cle game, for a simple example. At the start of the seventh, Bos lead 4-1 (not a perfect facsimile of 7-3, but a four run lead nonetheless). Here’s what their WP chart looked like; it put their win probablity at, let’s call it 80%.
Now, let’s contrast that with the Ranger’s playoff odds; BP has it at (again, just to simplify) 94%
That means, that if you want to use the top of the 7th analogy, our season looks more like Arizona’s game yesterday than, which ended up being a four-run win.
Fun with graphs!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Have the Rangers coughed up
any 7-3 7th inning leads they’ve had this year?
We’re in pretty good shape but it’s not over.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Well, more accurately, it's more like 7-2
With 8-9-1 due up, was the point of that presentation.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
The kitchen is clean
But the groceries still need to be put away.
by JDT217 on Aug 6, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, at this point we're just couting on the Darrens, Frankie Two-Frank, and Neftali.
Or Cliff Lee and Neftali, were it Cliffmas.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
This is like the Upside-Down show
and I’ve walked into the bad metaphor room.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I prefer to say
lotsa golf still to play, bking.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
So..
we’re leading after 12 holes by 5 strokes. Unless we turn into Jean Van De Velde, I like our chances.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Really good analogy...
and the ’96 Rangers went Van De Velde in late September yet survived.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
the 96 team
was never more than a half game out of first all year and only 3 games from leading the division wire to wire.
on August 6, 1996 we were 63-50, but only 2 games up on Seattle.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Off the top of my head...
Wanna say the ’96 team had a 9 game lead on September 10 and a 1 game lead on September 21.
That’s why I said we went Van De Velde yet survived to tell the tale.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Let's hope we keep our shoes on all year...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I like Viking Jesus
Here’s the best the internet has to offer regarding my vision.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
He'll never do that, never heeds his own advice.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
The players I named were all acquired in 2008 or before.
The Danks trade was a huge error. The Padres trade was as well, though we don’t know how much of that was Buck.
And what role did Nolan have in the Teixeira trade?
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
And if JD had done a better job earlier,
Nolan Ryan wouldn’t have been brought in to be his boss.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Wow man
I thought you were just playing off some schtick, but you actually believe that JD has done nothing before this season. That’s ridiculous.
Replace Jim Knox
yeah....I'm done
JW, I don’t hate you. But arguing with you is like arguing with my wife.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
without the makeup sex
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Aug 6, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
So it's still like arguing with his wife.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
F!@
There’s a pic of Molina on the AM thread yesterday…so I’ve got that
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
by Bob Loblaw on Aug 6, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My wife doesn't mind me looking.
It’s when I try to touch that we have problems.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
But why would you want to touch
Bobs boobies….
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
You obviously haven't seen them.
Loblaw’s boobies are a thing to behold.
And hold.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh heh
Good stuff and I almost missed this little subthread because I usually just z through the parts of the thread that Josey hijacks
by BEW on Aug 6, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
he's actually gotten better....last season was pretty bad.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
So by your logic, the only moves that have any bearing on a team's success are moves that are made in season.
That is the only way you could refuse to give credit to JD for the moves he made in ‘06-’08.
by michael bluth on Aug 6, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
no you are missing it.
There weren’t any good moves made by the Rangers from 06 to 08.
only bad ones like the Padres deal on January 6th 06, and signing Millwood on Feb 22 06, Dominguez for Rheinecker and Koronka just before the 06 season began.
Dellucci for Tejada at the same time.
Trading for Freddy Guzman
Trading Shouse for Enrique Cruz
Trading Nevin for Hairston,
Drafting Davis, Gentry, Holland and Herrera in th 06 draft.
Trading Coco, Mench and Laynce Nix for Cruz and Carlos Lee
Trading Bryan Corey for Luis Mendoza
Jesse Chavez for Kip Wells
Signing Padilla, Byrd, Lofton, Sosa, and Gagne in the 06-07 offseason.
Traded Danks for McCarthy
Traded a minor leaguer for Chris Stewart
Drafted Julio Borbon, Tommy Hunter, and Mitch Moreland in the 07 draft.
bought Adam Melhuse
Traded Lofton for Ramirez
Traded Gagne for Beltre, Gabbard, and Murphy
Traded Teixeira for, well… lots, lets just go with that…
Traded Guzman for Chris Shelton
Signed Milton Bradley
traded Tug Hulet for Ben Broussard
Signed Kaz Fukumori
Traded the “V” for Josh Hamilton.
and that takes us to ’08….. yeah, not all of those are good, but you have to admit that there is SOME good there.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Unfortunately,
he doesn’t “have to admit” anything.
And he won’t.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't show up
in my transaction list on B-R
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
do they have international kid signings on there?
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
who?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm fairly certain
he’s the Galloway of real life and of DFW.
“All signs point to ‘yes.’”
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Too much Ticket shtick mixed in
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
"There is a LSB party at my place when the Rangers make the playoffs" - TagDon'tTweet
considering the lack of quality his station turns out
I wouldn’t be surprised if he listens to the ticket
Wow
just wow. Luck. Lewis has a bad agent. Ok, wow.
One issue I want to clear up: signing Vlad. It would have cost the Angels more to sign Vlad than for any other team to do so. If they offer him arb, he makes more than he is now. If they don’t, he leaves. Same situation with Matsui and the Yankees. Vlad was not worth signing at the dollar amount he would have cost in arbitration, just as Matsui was not worth what it would have taken for the Yankees to sign him.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
nope.
luck.
Good talent eval on a player that is totally off the radar of MLB and realizing you can get a decent player at a good price? Not good, solid work. That shit is luck.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Yeah
I pointed out the other day how Josey was still refusing to credit JD and was continuing the ridiculous Lewis/bad agent meme.
He should read that piece I linked below.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
How in the F can you say
I’m “refusing to credit JD” ???
I’ve said at every turn this was JD’s Baby this year (even when most of LSB was waffling during the 6-9 start) and that he deserves a ton of credit under very trying circumstances for This Thing’s success in 2010.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
When you attribute good moves to luck or a bad agent
You aren’t giving credit. Seem familiar?
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
JD has done a fantastic job this year
For a talentless hack who needs babysitting.
What, I gave him credit!
/Josey
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice summation
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
and don't forget
There were many things he DIDN’T do over the offseason which could have hurt the team. for example:
he did due dilligence on the Ramirez for Lowell deal, which would have precluded them from picking up Vlad. Lowell has a .300 wOBA in limited play due to injury. He didn’t trade Hamilton while Hammy was undervalued.
He did swing and miss (so far) on Rich Harden, but that deal was never about the innings, and I’m not convinced that come playoff time, Harden isn’t our number 2 starter.
Plus, its extremely important to remember the following: On July 9th the team stood 4.5 games up on the angels. a year ago on that same date, we stood 0.5 a game ahead of the Angels. Now, a big part of us being 8.5 games up now and 10 up on the Angels has to do with their 7-14 collapse since then (though we’ve gone 13-9) as opposed to 2009, where the Angels won 50 games after July 9th.
But the Cliff Lee deal is widely regarded as the best transaction of the entire year for any team, and has a lot to do with us being where we are. And that deal was ALL Daniels. Ryan had nothing to do with it. The Lee deal alone is enough that if I owned the Mets I’d throw enormous stacks of cash at Daniels this offseason. The fact that he stuck it to the Yankees in the process would make me want to throw another big bag of hundres on the pile.
will he leave and go to the mets? I doubt it. I think Ryan locks him up after extending Washington….
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Harden failing
I think you take gambles like Vlad, Harden, Lewis and hope that some % of them work out.
One of them failing is surely acceptable…
And it would be wonderful if Harden was pitching like a #2 come playoff time.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
wrong
Lee deal=luck
Vlad=luck
Oliver=luck
missing (so far) on Harden=JD’s incompetence
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Out of the four at this point...
Harden might have been the most “known quantity,” too.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
if Harden gets back on track
then the final eval changes from “Incompetence” to “Luck.” That’s how that shit works.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Hell, even now I'd prefer Harden to Millwood
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
well
I forgot about Harden replacing Millwood. So the Harden deal turns out to be a good one. “Luck” it is. That’s starting to be a pretty full column…
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Need to take JD to Vegas and cash this shit in.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
signing Lee, Vlad, AND Oliver is the equivalent of 3 infield hits. Do I have this right?
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
"There is a LSB party at my place when the Rangers make the playoffs" - TagDon'tTweet
I like your blog
and I like your style
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
According to Evan...
The financial crisis really brought the 2 together, and that keeping JD is a priority.
maybe last winter?
Nolan seemed pretty pleased with Daniels’ moves in the offseason under tight constrictions.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
JD moved into Nolan's house
after Lehman collapsed in Fall ’08. Then Nolan helped JD take advantage of the first-time home buyer tax credit about 9 months ago.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only after
teaching him how to shave, and how to throw a curveball in the backyard.
And how to use deodorant
And not button all his shirts one button off.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
can't argue with that
I mean it’s like saying Al Pacino will never be the actor Tom Cruise is. Cruise gets a lot of blockbuster hype but Pacino was Serpico and Scarface.
Ryan Rowland-Smith is 27
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
That's my thought
Not because he dislikes the Rangers, DFW or Nolan but because the Mets will moneywhip him. I wonder if it would be tampering for the Mets to even approach him unless he opts out.
JD could opt out just to test the market if that’s what he wanted to do. Hence, Rangers should get a contract extension (and new contract) in place pronto.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Why do i always think of Seinfeld episodes?
Anyway when the Mets offered George director of scouting, I laughed
Hey, bodysuit man!
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." -Chuck Morgan speaking for all of us
The other day
One of the Wilpons (Mets owners) came out and gave Minaya a vote of confidence regarding the 2011 season.
Not saying that can’t change as the Mets crash these last two months, but right now it appears they aren’t looking for a new GM.
"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM
by Desert Ranger on Aug 6, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't votes of confidence the kiss of death?
I’m pretty sure that a vote of confidence is the last thing you give someone just before you fire them.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
For sure, it's a meme that needs to die in the sports world
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Which makes the term completely out of place.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Delayed death..
more or less. They won’t fire you right away because they just gave you a vote of confidence, but after September, all bets are off!
I think this is all hand-wringing for hand-wringing's sake.
Why would JD go anywhere? Why would Nolan or Greenberg want to blow up what they fought so hard to get? Doesn’t add up.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
The Hunsicker rumors are ridiculous.
No way would Hunsicker take a lower position as a GM after being President.
But he might take
a position similar, over Daniels (or whoever the GM is), leaving Ryan freer to focus on other things. I doubt it happens.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I don't know if GM is necessarily lower than President
it technically is but it is very organization dependent and if you want to be the most involved in player moves, I think you’d rather be GM.
If they are rumors, then so be it but Richard Justice seems to be credible when it comes to these things
Not really.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
stupid effing nolan ryan
i knew this was going to happen
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
This is probably the best one you've made.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
by far.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
"There is a LSB party at my place when the Rangers make the playoffs" - TagDon'tTweet
Love it.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Lol, nice!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
like bacon, this needs to be put on everything
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 10:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Heh, it seems to fit, no?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
it works
But I think he deserves something better when he busts his ass or only gets thrown out by 15 steps on a weak grounder to third.
I’m thinking ‘hustle biscuit’
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 10:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
something better
like maple bacon, or smoked bacon
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I'm thinking Meatball.
Short, Round and Brown.
Bengie "Meatball" Molina
It has a certain ring.
by Mike the Grate on Aug 6, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
That's all he is going to mash is meatballs.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
That's racist
I’m going to use it.
I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw
It's ok, I'm latino.
My mom calls San Antonio, (where we have relatives), the land of the short, round and brown people.
if he found out about that nickname
he would probably attempt to eat his own fingers.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Even old man Randy got this one right
“Blame Tom for all this. He is the devil”
by eric03tx on Aug 6, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Anybody see the Hanley play?
He ran to deep left field and threw a strike to third. I guess he can play any the corner OF positions
Should answer some hustle questions.
Doesn't it make it worse for most people?
Now they’ll say, “see what he should do every time.”
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 10:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You see Torii fuck up a ball in RF last night?
He didn’t get to it, then it caromed off the wall strangely and he just fumbled around with it for forever. I admit, I was amused.
What about that blown call in the Marlins game?
That was about as bad as it gets…..
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Aug 6, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think that was as bad as it gets.
I think that was a pretty tough call. Call it the “magic ball” theory, but it looks like that fucker was foul while traveling over 3B.
Hard to tell.
Bad camera angle, but when the ball hit the dirt past the bag, it was obviously fair by several inches. Ump said that is irrelevant, it passed foul of the bag….
Yeah...
On the ball’s first bounce about 10-15 feet down the line, it was foul by quite a bit. Then it somehow sliced back into fair territory mid-hop. I think the way it hit the ground initially caused that weird slice. I’d never seen a ball do that.
by UserToBeNamedLater on Aug 6, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I've never heard him speak
but I imagine Blanco sounding like John Leguizamo…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Has there been anything interesting on the waiver wire?
Rumor was a couple of weeks ago that the Rangers were still looking for another SP….
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. Not all holes, or games, are created equal. George Will
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Aug 6, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
Jose Guillen
but he’s not a SP; and we’re not really in need of one
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Who claimed Dunn?
92 wins or bust!
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up." - Kevin Sherrington
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Aug 6, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Dunn
“Club sources confirmed the Giants put in a claim on Dunn, but indications were that another NL team lower in the standings blocked them.”
http://www.federalbaseball.com/2010/8/6/1608567/wire-taps-adam-dunn-claimed-who
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 10:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Fucking Norm
Burning a segment on the Emmitt draft?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Meh
Friday before he gets inducted to the HOF
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok, I guess that makes sense
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yep
Same reason Emmitt takes up the back page of the DMN Sports section.
I’m happy for the dude and like taking that stroll down Memory Lane.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there is a man on base." - Dave Barry
by Suicide Prince on Aug 6, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
OT: Senior quarterback Sherrod Harris will retire from football.
One of the most disappointing 3 star recruits ever. Now starting QB is Soph with 2 Freshman backups.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 10:36 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I know I know this name...but what school?
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Ah, see I knew it.
That’s why I couldn’t remember, because Fuck UT.
The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
Bob Simpson shot Liberty Valence
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 10:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Arlington Bowie HS
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I never could tell if he was actually a good HS QB
or if he just stood out on those awful Bowie teams.
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
The twinkie played against him our senior year at Cedar Hill
I seem to recall the twin telling me that Sherrod shook him something nasty. He was a starting CH MLB then.
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Sherrod could always run, but he couldn't throw out of the room I'm sitting in.
I heard quite a few things about his unwillingness to learn the playbook, too.
But whatever hype he might have had will never eclipse that of John Chiles.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw in the other thread you were from CH
What year? What’s your twin’s name?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
I went to DeSoto
but my father and I did the radio broadcast for CH from 02-08 (he still does it on his own).
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
Yeah, he played football and I played baseball
Both went to school for our strengths, though (academics/business).
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Former Arlington Bowie great
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Him too
Thanks Lewin.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
rumor has it they share similar interests
And genuinely enjoy each other’s company
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 11:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
3 star recruits bust all the time
That is why they are only 3-star and not 4 or 5. I don’t really understanding how he could be “one of the most disappointing 3 star recruits ever”. If the expectations were higher he would have been deemed a 4 or a 5.
I have no idea what he was thinking going to UT in the first place, or not transferring out when Colt McCoy established himself.
They also had Gilbert committed for over a year before he signed his LOI, so it’s not like he didn’t have warning of him, either.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
So it was Simpson that ended the auction
Simpson said he instinctively knew the timing was ripe for a knockout bid, having done numerous energy deals, and so advised the group. “I told them, ’Let’s start giving it our best shot,’” said the 62 year old billionaire, dressed in a red XTO logo polo shirt and weathered cowboy boots.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Our New Hero!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Holy shit!
I saw an older dude walk down the hallway in a red XTO polo about 9:00 on Wednesday night. I thought, “there’s no way a billionaire would come to court dressed like that.” I had no idea what he looked like.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Old rich money types
always dress like they’re going golfing. Because they’re always going golfing.
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by benjihana on Aug 6, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
25% of Millionaires drive older F150s
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
I know a guy who is a financial advisor
He once had an old man pull up in front of his office, reach out the window of his 30+ year old Ford pickup, unwire the baling wire holding the door shut, get out, wire the door back, and come into his office. He told said financial adviser that he was over the $100,000 FDIC insurance limit at 10 different banks and had another several hundred grand he needed to invest.
Then I know some people driving fancy vehicles who have negative net worths.
Wealthy people are funny.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
After $10 mil, what do you do with it.
I’m just guessing, most wealthy people, like Simpson, don’t want to flash it what is the need.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
A lot of the "old" millionaires I know are folks who lived through the Depresssion or had the misery of it instilled into them by their parents
So they’re always saving for a rainy day that will probably never come, but they’ll be prepared if it does.
And when it comes to guys like Simpson and some others, they don’t have a need to prove anything to anyone. These guys are not like Mike Tyson or some celebrity who wants to accumulate ridiculous amounts and types of things just for the sake of it. They build nice houses, buy nice ranches, drive nice vehicles, and maybe have some fancy boats and planes, but other than that, they’re not angling for an appearance on MTV. They buy what they want and that’s good enough.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Your right
So many people who lived through the Great Depression have a different take on life and finances. There are a lot of moderately wealthy older folks living in small towns and show very little signs of their wealth. You don’t usually realize how well off they are until after they die.
That's why they got that way a lot of times though.
They don’t want to spend their money. Hell look at Warren Buffet. The guy has been living in the same house forever that he bought decades ago for like $30 grand.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I think Sam Walton
Drove an old Ford when he was the richest man on earth.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
Ted Jones, son of the founder and man mostly responsible for building Edward Jones Investments
Drove a Ford F100 straight six with a standard transmission for a couple of decades. Commuted into St. Louis from his farm out in the country every day in that pickup.
He died as one of the largest, if not the largest, landowner in the state of Missouri.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Hes got enough money that he can do whatever he wants.
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
At my last firm...
…we represented this super mega rich guy. Every time he came in to the office, he looked like he had just gotten off the boat from a deep sea fishing trip. Hawaiian shirts, shitty shorts, some kind of shoes. He doesn’t give a shit and it’s pretty awesome.
Ditto
Although my guy may not be super mega rich but he has a jet and another plane and a pilot on salary even though he only flies a couple times a week. I had a mediation for a pissant case for him. Mediation was 140 miles away, I figured we’d drive but he said no, we’ll take the jet. Probably spent as much on fuel as the case was worth but it was nice to take a 23 minute flight versus two hours of driving.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
I've got several multimillionaire clients
Not sure they even own any suits and if they do, they’re worn infrequently.
They normally show up wearing dirty jeans, boots, and Dickies work shirts.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Thats all you need.
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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
and a bolo tie.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
This basically just described Amon Carter back in the day
Of course, George Patton made sure everyone knew the distinction between pearl handles and ivory handles. Patton had pearl handled revolvers but said only pimps in cheap New Orleans whorehouses had ivory revolvers or something to that effect.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Crap, you're right
Screw pearl. Ivory is where it’s at. I cant keep them straight.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Elephants > Oysters
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
by AceJC on Aug 6, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nature of locale
Businessmen in the Northeast wear finely tailored suits. Even the super-rich.
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I don't think either is "better" than the other...
…just saying that it is a regional thing, not a wealth/status thing.
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Yeah, wealth and status are measured by different standards in the Northeast vs. DFW v. West Texas
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I'll try and be careful how i word this
but the attitude, wealth and status are measured by different standards in the Northeast vs Dallas vs Fort Worth vs West Texas.
Fort Worth is not Dallas – though Fort Worth is not quite West Texas
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
True that. My sister in law is from Pampa and its a whole other world out there.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I personally much prefer Dallas over FW – I believe I was in the group that Galloway reasoned that Lynn was no longer a “FW boy.” I find it amusing that moron Galloway ever called Lynn a Ft. Worth boy when Lynn is an Illinois (I believe) liberal.
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so 'liberals' can't be Fort Worth boys?
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I like how you took "Illinois liberal"
and imparted woman logic on it. I’m not even going to respond to this.
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i guess i should've responded by asking what your definition of Fort Worth boy is
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
I don't define general groups of people.
I would say that there is a higher propensity for “Forth Worth boys” to be of the conservative and fairly close-minded persuasion.
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ok sounds good
that probably should have been my first question, though i have to admit offense to your ‘woman logic’ comment.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Yeah, that was surprisingly offensive
from my normally even-keeled responses. I apologize.
Replace Jim Knox
I wasn't surprised by the offensiveness.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
no big deal
i can tell that you’re always up for a good debate on here – but that didn’t fit. So, cool.
Even though i prefer Fort Worth to Dallas.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Appreciate that.
To each his own, absolutely. FW has its merts, just not those that I value usually. I try to keep away from stupid insults like “womanly” as they do a terrible job reflecting the rationale behind my thoughts.
Replace Jim Knox
Close-mindedness...
now applies to most people with some form of a political affiliation. It is just one of those factors caused by having the luxury to live in such a diverse country with so many people with differening necessities. Rural, conservatives can’t be objective about the needs of a liberal, New York urbanite and the New Yorker isn’t going to be objective about the needs of the rural, conservative.
Absolutely, wholeheartedly, completely disagree with you
To say that having a political affiliation and leaning implies you are closed-minded is incorrect. They are unrelated/uncorrelated. You have your political leanings – left, right, middle, backward, upward, downward, whatever. Then you have how you interact with others views and how they impact your own – this is what makes you closed-minded or not. You are NOT a closed-minded person if you have a discussion with someone of differing views, and come out of the conversation still disagreeing with them, as long as you’ve effectively evaluated those views (with as little bias as possible) and determined that they don’t align with your own beliefs.
You don’t have to be a pacifict or apathetic to be considered to have an “open mind.”
Replace Jim Knox
by benjihana on Aug 6, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
1+
My political affiliation is a reflection on how I think the government should be run. Theories on taxation, representation, interpretations of the law, etc etc. My stance on things people consider issues of “open mindedness” or morality (gay marriage is the one that immediately pops into my head) to me is a personal decision and one I have made totally separate from my decision on what my political party affiliation is.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Political affiliation" was the wrong terminology on my part.
I do pretty well agree with what you said. Like you said, I don’t think closed or open-mindedness is directly related to one’s political affiliation. That was the point that I was trying to make and did a terrible job. I believe close-mindedness can be on either side of the aisle. I wish I could explain the context of what I am stating better. In the past I could but the older I get the less capable I feel like I am when it comes to clearly and concisely putting my thoughts on paper.
are there any liberals at all in Fort Worth?
I’m pretty sure they drove them out years ago.
Go Rice Owls!
Sure are.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
And they make deals in the most random places, without lawyers. We just get to clean up the mess.
Recently I was reading a fairly significant case re: non-compete agreements in Texas. It stemmed from a well-known drilling company in Abilene selling its rigs to a guy going into the drilling business. The buyer saw the seller at a convenience store one Saturday morning somewhere between Abilene and Midland. They agreed to sell the rigs for $50 million there in the parking lot.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
There was a somewhat interesting book a few years ago
called “The Millionaire Next Door.” If I recall correctly, it was a profile of millionaires who one would not believe they were rich due to how they lived.
if I were a billionaire I'd walk around nude.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
You should make this your new signature.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
No he shouldn't
Only blowhard douchebags quote themselves in their signatures.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 13 recs
So what you're saying is he should take the next step?
That was good schtick, and I miss it.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
I don't think he went into the courtroom
(not that it matters because he can do whatever he wants). Just hung out in the hallway I thought.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Wow - I just looked the guy up (didn't know much about him)
So he sells his company in June and two months later is a huge owner in a baseball team? Guy doesn’t mess around. And sold it for $31 BILLION in stock? Geez.
"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
Then he grounded out weakly to second.
Yep
Cubes saw him walk into the courtroom and knew it was all over but the crying.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
by boomer1 on Aug 6, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey that sounds like a Bruce Robison song.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Love me some Bruce Robison
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Same here. One of the most underrated song writers out there.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you a Charlie fan too?
I could listen to that family all day long.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Not as much. I do love Kelly Willis though.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Yessir, he's a really cool operator
Built XTO into a Barnett Shale mammoth, has spent who knows how many millions restoring the Waggoner and a few other historic Ft. Worth buildings, and owns a fair amount of land in Palo Pinto County. He’s allegedly got a giant lake house at PK (I haven’t seen it, but a client has told me about it) and is currently fencing off and preparing as a retreat/nature reserve a big chunk of land @ the corner of US 180 & Hwy 16.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
You'd be surprised.
There’s a lot of guys that you would never know had shit tons and shit tons of money just by looking at them.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Bob Simpspn needs a fact page
He has achieved mythical superbadass status, at least in my eyes.
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 11:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bob's ten-gallon hat
Probably contains property deeds to 500,000 acres of prime real estate, $768,360 in various denominations, and a fifth ace.
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 11:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"I've got a ranch in downtown Dallas
I buy diamonds by the ton.
Chase cuties in my Cadillac
Drill oil wells just for fun."
-Bob Simpson
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I told part of the story already on here
But I actually met Bob Simpson at the dedication of the Higher Athletic Center at Baylor (built with a generous donation from the Simpson and Highers families). He had no reason to speak with me, and I’m sure his time would have been better spent talking to some other big donor or influential bigwig, but he talked to me for at least ten minutes.
Another small note on Simpson— Baylor received what they are calling an anonymous gift of about $200 million in March of this year from a family that supposedly has a “strong history of support for the University.”
Everybody is pretty sure it was Simpson.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you tell it again?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Can you come up with new material?
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He has been here how many years?
No I don’t think he can.
Hey I’m going to email you some things later tonight. I’ve been on the phone all day and getting ready to go pick up some earnest money. Long day.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
That's cool, there's no rush.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Check this out then
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
His compnay (XTO) was recently bought out by EXXON
(the first gas company EXXON has ever bought) for $Billions!
( I actually know the new CEO of XTO who was President before Simpson retired)
Wonder how much his 600+ mil in stock is worth now.
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
the $600 million was '08
that was BEFORE the mammoth Natural Gas boom!
So whats his net worth now?
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
$Texas
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
by WestTxAg06 on Aug 6, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
SNL Jeopardy bit
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Must have missed that one
but the Jeopardy skits with Will Farrell are just beyond hilarious
by BEW on Aug 6, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
That was the Turd Fergison one I believe.
With the 10 gallon hat part.
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
"I can speak a little French - you're an asswipe, excuse my French"
“My name’s French!”
“Yeah well, who gives a damn…”
That’s probably my all-time favorite Celebrity Jeopardy. Just watched it yesterday.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I don't know --
but enough to buy the Rangers on his own if he wanted!
Well hopefully as the money man in the background hes willing
to give Nolan and crew whatever cash they need to keep this train a rollin’
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"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
by texascowpunk on Aug 6, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I am impressed with how the money people
behind GnR stepped up and got the deal done. At ~600M, they didn’t do it for the money.
Is this a shot by Galloway at The Newberg?
You can’t say it enough, and I’ve said it plenty, and can say it again because I’ve never been on Tom Hicks’ payroll, and a quick show of hands please from any local sportswriter who has.
(Thanks. I see you way in the back.)
Sullivan?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure sounds like one to me.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Well saying Jamey is a sportswriter
is quite a stretch. T.R. sounds like a more likely target. They used to work together too, no?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes they did
I ’spose you could be right.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Hasn't Galloway openly bashed Jamey before, though?
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
I think....he talked and laughed heartily about it on his radio show
but I don’t remember him writing about it in a column.
Schlacter wrote the article that talked about how much money the Rangers paid The Newberg…I think.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
That was just in the context of various creditors being owed by the club, though
Not like Schlachter was doing an expose into the subversive Tom Hicks plot to control information via the writings of Jamison D. Newberg.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
Its a shot at somebody
I was trying to figure out who it was too.
The shot was at everybody
who was reporting on the team and on the Tom Hicks payroll.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
It was the great Strawman massacre of 2010
That is all.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Aug 6, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Moral superiority from Galloway
Good stuff. I like it. No need for a funny friday video. We’ve already had our laugh today
Ehh, if it is, he's just pouting because The Newberg is far more relevant amongst Rangers fans than that jackass Galloway could ever hope to be
No one of any consequence looks to Galloway for Rangers analysis.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
"I’m gonna go on record here and say a great many things excuse throwing a chair at someone." – D.A. Tron
only people that listen to what he has to say
Older people that missed the information age. A/K/A those that still buy a newspaper
I kinda resent that - is it OK if I only buy it on Friday for the Fry's ads now?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Not really:
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"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
But then I can't read it in the left lane on the Bush.....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
You need one of these
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Wow, I gotta get that...
Can you imagine explaining THAT to the DPS trooper??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
"Uh sir.."
“Don’t bother. You’ll just dig that hole even deeper.”
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Why we won't change our minds
I was reading this Posnanski steroids piece and someone posted this link in the comments.
The second link is a Boston Globe article about our resistance to facts that contradict what we think we know. The article got me thinking first about a discussion / minor argument I had with my wife last night, when it felt like she wouldn’t change her mind no matter what I said. Of course, perhaps she was thinking the same thing.
Then it got me thinking about LSB, and the folks on here who will change their minds (in the light of new evidence)… and those who will not.
Hat tip to those that can and do…
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Heh
I’ve had this debate with my wife more than a few times. It’s not that I’m close-minded, it’s that I looked at what evidence was there and formed my opinion. If you want to convince me of something, bring better evidence. Random anecdotes and hypothetical situations probably aren’t going to cut it…
…she just thinks I’m stubborn.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty evidence driven as well
I think she finds it tiresome at times.
However, sometimes I think that she takes the other side of the argument just because… it is the other side.
But then I think, “wait, am I doing that?”
The things that marriage makes me think about…
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I think your recognition pushes you more
onto the side of rational thought, and her further towards contrarian thought.
Replace Jim Knox
You know, I think that's a big myth
I think you can figure out, after enough time with a girl, what she’s thinking.
I think the unsolvable mystery is trying to make any sense of why they think that way…
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
My wife actually told me once
that sometimes she argues with me or gets “mad” at me just so that I’ll focus all my attention on her for a while. I said, uh, wow. She also said then she liked making up after, which I was a bit more appreciative of, so scientific study needed.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I think I would have preferred a different tactic for attention getting
What would she do if it backfired into a major argument?
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't worry about that
we communicate well, I’m extremely patient and forgiving (though it may not seem so here) and our relationship is awesome. And she knows me well enough not to pick a topic that might make me really angry.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Yeah, I figured as much.
You seem to be on a pretty even keel.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
WHAT?????!!?????!
You mean we can’t tell what a person is like in real life from their persona here???? :-)
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I'm exactly like my LSB persona.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't it be funny
If Josey was actually really open-minded and non-judgmental in person?
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't referring to the myth of the inscrutable female
Not one I buy into, though perhaps it is just because of my relationship dynamic. She is much more open about her thoughts than I. And (as you suggest) after all the time we’ve spent together, I usually do know what she is thinking.
That being said…
I’ve always loved the piece of Murakami’s “Wind Up Bird Chronicle” when he comes home with flower printed tissues and she says, “I hate flower printed tissues.” “Oh,” he says, thinking about how he never knew that. Then he makes something for dinner and puts it on the plate and she says she doesn’t like that. He points out the components of the meal and asks what she doesn’t like. She admits that she likes the ingredients (can’t recall what it was) separately, but doesn’t like them cooked in the same pan.
He is mildly stunned, and he begins to think about how much he does know, or can know.
And, finally, he hits upon this metaphor: she is an enormous dark cave, he is equipped with only a candle, able to illuminate such a small space…
Now, I loved that mostly because of beauty rather than truth. But I always think of it when these types of relationship discussions come up…
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
His wife sounds high maintenance.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
By the way, did you know that entire chapters were not included in the English translation? I just learned that 60 seconds ago on Wikipedia.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
"Was"?
Has it deteriorated?
I don’t speak any Japanese… For what its worth, I think I remember Murakami speaking highly of the translation. He has actually translated some classic English texts into Japanese…
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah.
I haven’t had a reason to use the spoken language in a decade, and I haven’t been energetic enough to make reasons (like taking classes or something). I imagine I’d be able to pick it up again quickly if I was immersed in it, but that’s probably not going to happen anytime soon.
And my reading skills were very basic, even at my best.
lol
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
If the sentence starts with wife
it can’t end with low maintenance.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
I like to think I'm pretty low maintenance.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
I wasn't completely serious
of course. Take my wife, please.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
This is very funny
Perhaps I should reread that book just thinking of her as “high maintenance.”
I went here for a plot summary. There isn’t much of one.
His wife leaves him, though. And what follows… well, you’d have to read it.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The biggest debate we had recently
Was with friends of our’s that are married. The girl is a social worker, the guy was a pre-med major but is now a salesman. My wife is an accountant.
So we get into this big debate, basically guys vs girls, on whether or not you should want to learn. I realized that it is one of the main differences between my wife and I. It’s not that she doesn’t have interests that she cares about, it’s that she basically only wants to learn about those things. Whereas I’m interested in almost anything and willing to spend more time learning about it.
It’s really frustrating to argue with the “But, why should I?” argument.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Aug 6, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
My twin and I had this conversation
just last week actually. He very bluntly stated that “there is simply a small percentage of the population that has an internal desire to learn more.” Generally, people know what they know, and personal interests are pursued, but the innate yearning for more knowledge exists in a limited amount of people, particularly as they age.
Replace Jim Knox
Do people with twins
always refer to them as twins instead of just saying brother or sister?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Now see
I actually didnt know that and I find it very interesting. I like to learn, even if its not a big deal
Yeah... I have four siblings...
And they are called my twin, my older brothers, and my older sister. I always differentiate, because (in my eyes, at least) we are not just brothers, hence that name is like calling your father a parent (a somewhat inaccurate simile, but the concept is the same).
Replace Jim Knox
Fine
just don’t call him a twinkie like you did above
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Aug 6, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You like evaluating/criticizing my posts.
I still haven’t figured out the motive. I will one day.
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I gave you props for Wharton though
right?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
heh
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
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by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't imagine
twins arguing. It seems like they’d always be of one mind on everything. (I guess it would be worse if you were conjoined twins. then fights would really suck.)
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Trust me - twins are not always of one mind.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
We argue incessantly... but we do have an excessive amount of
our mindsets that is similar. Our personalities are starkly different though. He’s a khaki shorts, t-shirt, hat wearing type who likes to eat at four or five different places, and I am an obnoxious, garrulous, douchebag metro.
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Similar for me.
Of course, my wife’s work doesn’t allow her to while away the hours online like I can. But even if she could, she wouldn’t.
I’m not sure why.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a great article by Posnanski,
a great link you highlighted, and a great article discussed by Pos. I seriously don’t know how anyone can continue to claim that steroids “caused” sudden increases in run production without providing clear scientific proof instead of anecdotes. All of that is well worth the read.
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Well, my views on that are pretty established here
I don’t have any more problem with McGwire in the HOF than I have for players who used amphetamines or cocaine. The only difference is writers feel that steroids attacked some of the records they are emotionally attached to. If steroids didn’t cause production to increase, than what exactly is the argument for keeping them out? And I’m seeking an argument for keeping them out that is consistent with earlier baseball history (which has not kept anyone out for using drugs).
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I think proving steroids didn't help is difficult
And, frankly, I tend to think they did.
That being said, I wish the mainstream would acknowledge that they were one of many factors.
The whole PED issue in higher level athletics is complicated (and tiresome)…
I don’t get to fired up about the HOF one way or the other, though…
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, proving a negative is nearly impossible
if not completely impossible, but to me NO ONE has proven that they did help. All of the arguments are something like “well come on, they are stronger, look at those muscles!” that conveniently ignore every other possibility. And people completely accept the juiced ball playing a huge role in the 1920s while simultaneously dismissing it now. These arguments are disingenuous at best. But people love simple answers to complicated questions, and scapegoats make good copy.
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I've always found it curious
That despite the bigger/stronger players, no one has hit a ball much further than Mantle’s 565 feet (I don’t know if anyone has, actually. McGwire?)
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
The comments in that Posnanski article are extremely disappointing.
It’s clear most only skimmed the article or didn’t bother reading it at all.
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Well, I only skimmed the comments...
But I would agree with that.
Appropriate that someone posted that Boston Globe piece there…
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh, yeah
as I read the comments, after having read that article, I though, wow, here is a perfect example.
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and I mean that for myself, too
since I recognize that I am much more open to arguments that steroids weren’t very important than most people are.
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Yeah
It’s almost impossible to self-evaluate one’s open mindedness.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is silly
I’m very open-minded, and if you try to tell me I’m not there’s no way I’ll believe you.
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it wasn't that hard to get
but funny, nonetheless.
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I didn't think so.
Some people are daft, though. I just didn’t want to be perceived as trying to be offensive.
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that may be themost insightful comment in LSB history
I’m pretty sure I’ll be refletcing on this all day. Thanks for making me think!
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I will also be reflecting about my poor typing skills today
and my desire for an “edit button” so I feel less stupid
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
No it isn't
you’re just saying that because you agree with him.
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that's not necessarily true
I consider myself to be open-minded. But what about others? What do they consider me to me? the only true, accurate evaluation of a person is how others see them. What will they write on your tombstone? You don’t write your own eulogy…what will they say about you when you’re not there to hear it? While I go out of my way (what I think is me going out of my way) to be open minded and considerate of others, and maybe I am doing this in my own mind, would other people agree, or would they say that I’m not doing enough?
I told you that this got me to think….
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Does this apply to one's humility as well?
Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham.
I don't know, man.
You’re The Jeezus.
I’m not going to fuck with you.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
(he really does know, just too humble to say so)
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i'm confused about this...
were steroids a factor in increased performance?
if your answer is yes, then you should be bothered that players were knowingly cheating to accomplish whatever they were trying to accomplish – whether it’s to play and compete at the major league level or in bonds’ case to set a record.
if your answer is no, you’re an idiot. while there may have been other factors, steroid use was a contributing factor. to your point, it’s impossible to go back and prove that they did help – how would you even do that? would you un-steroid sammy sosa and have him replay his career?
but just because there isn’t a way to measure the impact, to deny it based solely on the inability to definitively measure it is foolish.
by sam in so cal on Aug 6, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
(So you're short answer is no, no you won't)
I don’t need an argument completely consistent with earlier baseball history.
My argument is simply that in today’s age, steroid use got a lot more play than amphetamine use or cocaine use or horse testicle use. Steroids are at the forefront of every major sports scandal. And it goes beyond whether there is a competitive advantage. It has some advantage, it is deleterious to health, and because of the nature of the game, steroid use by some necessarily leads to steroid use by all since every competitive advantage is necessary in a game that pays millions of dollars for essentially marginally better performance.
There’s no high intellectual dishonesty by “arbitrarily” saying that discovered steroid use will mean automatic disqualification from the Hall. Not doing so is tacit acceptance of the problem to an infinitely higher degree than accepting amphetamine users of the 60’s. We can just say those guys are already in and we won’t mess with those. There’s no reason to then just allow every other drug user (or wife beater or racist) because the Hall already has some of those in it.
Character is in the judging criteria. Character is necessarily an evolving standard as morals evolve. Character can encompass steroid use.
I'm fine with all that
but the sportswriters cherry pick their character arguments. The media coverage about even known users is incredibly inconsistent. I just hate double standards and I see it all over this issue. Leave all known users out or let them all in (if otherwise qualified). We’ll see if Andy Pettite gets wide support over guys like Bonds and Arod, but the way he’s talked about in the media now is undeservedly much more positive if you’re at all concerned about PED use.
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I can't support that double standard
All admitted or proven steroid and HGH users should be out.
Of course, not sure if Pettite is actually a HOFer on the merits.
I've seen some arguments both ways on Pettite
I remember being surprised at how well he compared in a couple of things I read, but I still think he’s not a HOFer.
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But I agree with you
certainly he’ll get more support than McGwire has, Petitte seems like one of those bounce around in the 30% for 15 years guys (like Tommy John or Jack Morris).
He’s revered for being exactly the same as Clemens (hated), Bonds (hated), Palmeiro (hated), Sosa (hated), and McGwire (hated). Even though all five of those are far more worthy HOF candidates than Petittle.
Also, I suspect ARod and Manny both will eventually get support (and probably in) as well, because they came after the big wave that brought the game to its knees. They were just great players who were revealed after it was accepted everyone was on them, they weren’t the first faces of the steroids era.
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He's got rings.
That makes him a winner.
You have to be a winner to make the Hall, and Pettite is a winner
Just like Bengie Molina.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Since you can't "leave them all out" without making errors
some false positives and some false negatives, you simply have to let them all in.
Does Ken Griffey get in? He was a HOF during the steroid era, but universally considered clean?
Does Frank Thomas? Pretty much everyone considers him clean.
Jim Thome? Probably clean, but do we know that?
Jeff Bagwell? Suspicions, but no evidence. One of the best 1b of all time though…
Pudge Rodriguez? Accusations, but no proof
It gets really messy. Can you have a Hall without Pudge or Bags because they may have used steroids? That’s ridiculous. You can’t risk the false positives, and you will have false negatives. I’d say that there is even probably a 25% chance Griffey did them. Who knows? We’ll never know.
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From that list
I wouldn’t be shocked if Bagwell, Rodriguez, and Griffey at least dabbled in steroids at some point.
Griffey less than the others.
Pretty damn sure about Bagwell.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
And that is the crux of my angst on this issue right there
You’re “pretty damn sure” about Bagwell? That’s not good enough for me to vote on, but unfortunately that gut feeling is all that’s required by much of the BBWAA.
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and therein lies the problem
Unless you can have some degree of confidence that you know all the guys, you can’t exclude any of them. The guys who have been exposed have been so arbitrarily. So you’re going to randomly exclude 30% of the best of the generation from the HOF because they were unlucky?
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I think this is silly.
This is like saying we shouldn’t prosecute one member of a four-man criminal team because we aren’t sure who the other three were. Absolute logic like this fails.
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well, this isn't court
And the whole point is that they aren’t 5 or 6 of 12 players who used steroids, we just haven’t figured out whether Doug Mientkewicz was one of them yet.
It was widespread, it was the majority (or close to it) of the league.
Sure, there are HOFers who gambled on baseball and never got caught. But that was never something that everyone in the game did and only the Black Sox, Rose, and a few others got caught for (or in their cases, were egregious and obvious).
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How do you know it was the majority of the league
if you are sure that we can’t say the other stars did or didn’t? Asserting fact where it is subjective.
No, this is not criminal court. But criminal court has set rules and standards; as does the HOF “court” of opinion. Criminal court is quite often decided via a “court of opinion” of the jurors based on evidence presented. The HOF is no different. Your absolute reasoning is, again, flawed.
And I love Rice – older brother is an alum.
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Right, we're not convicting people and sending them to prison
we’re talking about who should be enshrined and honored. I don’t think it’s fair to villify PED users (or just suspected users) while praising those in the past who used drugs. By any sort of logic extending from the character argument Ty Cobb should be immediately expelled.
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Its also an established fact
that Pitchers not only used steroids (Clemens, Pettitte) but derived benefit from it. Because of this its simply not fair to exclude the likes of Bonds and McGwire and Sosa and Palmeiro by saying that they had tilted the competitive balance. Palmeiro homers off of Clemens, how is that any different from Mantle homering off of Bob Lemon or any other HOF pitcher of his day? or Ruth off of Lefty Grove? or Lajoie of of Walter Johnson? if everyone had access to the steroids and they weren’t illegal (from the standpoint of baseball) then you CAN’T excluded them from the ballot. If you say, “well, they were not legal according to the law of the land”, then you have to exclude Babe Ruth, who flaunted the law of the land by drinking heavily.
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Mal: Could you be more specific?
I really can't see pitchers getting that much benefit from steroids...
Unless they are using it to help with healing and returning to action faster, I can’t see steriods being used to help out performance. I don’t believe a bulked up pitcher can throw faster. It’s command, pitch selection, and deception that really throw off a batter. Velocity is on the lower end, IMO.
Just look at a good portion of pitchers vs. batters today. Batters have bulk because it helps their bat swing/speed and steriods would greatly influence that. I also understand the arguement that PHD’s do not affect hand/eye coordination. That is also true.
But I believe the benefit of steriods to batters >>>> the benefit to pitchers.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Why do you believe that?
I see nothing in your post that should make me agree with you. Power pitchers use lower body strength just like power hitters do. Why would it help the hitters and not the pitchers? Why should I believe it helps either group much?
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I know you have a staunch stance on this, and I will try to do my best.
While PHD’s may help with the lower legs, what do you reasonably believe the increase of a fastball velocity would be because of it? I could see it helping a pitcher go longer in a game or helping recovery time between outtings. I’m not so sure I see it increasing the top end of the fastball, though.
And again, the difficulty of a pitcher is ranked by me as: Diff in velocity > Location command > Top end Velocity. So a pitcher using PHD wouldn’t see much of a benefit, IMO, other than being able to go longer in a game or being able to pitch 100% faster between outtings.
I’m not asking you to change your mind. I’m just throwing out my opinion from experience, reading, and my ass.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Excellent. If that doesn't scream Mark McGuire, I don't know what does.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
FB Velo very important
I think David wrote up an article that showed how important a few extra ticks of velocity could be.
And to say that steroids couldn’t add a MPH or two is probably incorrect, but there are probably no studies on it.
You could probably argue that steroids could improve command, but again, you won’t find any studies.
I think command has a lot to due with fatigue. Steroids absolutely improve endurance and help recovery, so a pitcher on steroids is probably less likely to be pitching fatigues. Again, you won’t find any studies.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with the no studies, and that's part of the reason this is so difficult to sway anyone.
I really don’t even try. But I do like to bring my opinion to the table.
I think a tick or two is significant, but not much so. I think a pitcher who has a FB/CH of 92/78 is a tougher pitcher to face than one that has a 98/90 ratio, command being the same.
I like your point about command and fatigue going hand in hand, but that would only affect an inning ot two? Like I said, I’m not asserting that PED’s do not help pitchers, I just don’t think they benefit pitchers as much as hitters. (And this is totally against your thoughts, Tball, that they even help at all)
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Tough to see
how growing lean muscle mass wouldn’t improve the speed of every element in the kinematic chain, and therefore the velocity. We know that with proper training and steroids, sprinters can get faster, why wouldn’t you think the legs, trunk rotations and arms couldn’t also get faster?
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I guess I think of it this way...
If they are already in the majors, they have the make up, muscle build, and mechanics at a top end rate. Bulking those muscles up would more than likely mess with that mechanics and not help at all.
I guess I look at CC Sabathia and think, if he was using PED’s and built up his lean muscle, would his FB improve from 93-94 to 96-97? I don’t think so.
And by your saying growing lean muscle will improve the speed of every part of the kinematic chain, does that meet those muscle heads down at Venice Beach are able to blaze in running speed? They are bulking up their legs muscles just as much, usually. I don’t think bulking up = speed, the majority of the time.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Steroids does not necessarily lead to bulk
If you are training in such a way that you want to gain bulk (low reps with high weight) you will bulk up. Lower weights and more repetitions will lead to strength without bulk. You seem to believe that steroids are only good for making you strong like a power lifter and that is not the case.
Look at professional cyclists who used to get in trouble for steroids (which are now detectable, so you don’t hear about those as much).
Also, here is the article I mentioned about FB velocity. You should read it.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I will check it out.
And it was my impression cyclists, when they did try to use steriods, used it to help with injuries and build legs muscles back up.
I was also led to believe that cyclists/track atheletes were more benefited by EPO boosting and blood enhancement, instead of actual steroids. But again:
Ass-talking-me. You all know the drill.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Its universally touted
that steroids help players recover from injury faster. Pitchers are much more prone to injury than hitters….
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I don't deny that. I acutally said one benefit a pitcher may get out of PED's
is the ability to go longer in a game and become 100% in between starts/outtings.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
well.... isn't that enough of a reason
do we care if it actually improved their velocity? it derived benefit to them. More innings for Clemens and the like, fewer innings for scrubs should mean FEWER home runs and LOWER batting averages…..
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Mal: Could you be more specific?
Yeah
It sucks that the MLB hasn’t (and will never) accept some responsibility for the inflated home run totals. I have no clue if they changed the ball on purpose, but they certainly had some control in park size and strike zone size.
Man, I have a negative reaction just thinking about Bud Selig…
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
who cares if Bud accepts responsibility?
I mean, it was a big mess, and pretty much everyone acknowledges that the owners didn’t have the courage post strike or really the incentive to push drug testing. Bud accepting some blame doesn’t change a thing.
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Doesn't change anything.
But it would give me some personal satisfaction.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?
—Mark McGwire, in what happened to be a very poignant quote
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
So even McGwire doesn't understand
the non-effects of steroids. :)
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That's ridiculous
McGwire actually admitted to steroid use. There are others out there that admitted to it. And there are some out there who tested positive for it
Adam
is LSB still the angrydome?
Hipsters, Flipsters, and Finger Poppin Daddies! Knock me your lobes.
wee you not in the GDT on Wednesday before the Murph homer?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
No
I tend to avoid those as much as possible. They’re way too knee jerk for me.
Hipsters, Flipsters, and Finger Poppin Daddies! Knock me your lobes.
but it certainly is a wild ride
and a great place to talk Ranger ball. My co-workers all hate baseball (UFC, brah!!!!!!!!) and my wife hates sports. I’ve got this place and the shower, where I talk to myself.
And the timing of Face’s salami + the Andro tweet about GnR upping their bid made the whole thing absolutely magical Wednesday. Like it was devine.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Agreed.
It was another one of those moments, right there with the fabled Matt Treanor triple that made you think…“You know, this really might be our year.”
I was absolutely giddy when The Face went yard.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
it just seems like special shit keeps happening this year
I love this year
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
It will always be the Angrydome
The team’s run of June dominance coincided with that tagline.
"LSJ is jealous that the M’s fans have a sucky team that they can whine and snark about. We’re stuck with a good team in first place." -- Adam Von Marriagesmasher
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by WestTxAg06 on Aug 6, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't close this page....her face, just heavenly.
http://www.athleteswives.com/2009/11/adriana-lima-marco-jarics-girlfriend/
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I am so stealing that line
;)
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
My good friends says:
“That’s neat. She’s neat.” in such an amusing way whenever we discuss hot women. It’s so funny as it’s so harmless of a comment, but the thoughts associated with it are not.
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I wish I had come up with it myself...
I heard it from a buddy from Lufkin. It’s especially funny with an East Texas accent.
Then I'm re-stealing
Like re-gifting, except inverse.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
he's not much of a baller, but wowza
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure they're married now.
Almost positive she already had one kid by him.
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by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
oh my god
pic 2…..
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, with that face
She wouldn’t even have to take her clothes off and I’d be cleaning the kitchen.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I like that site
But now I REALLY hate Brad Penny. You dated her? Damn you…………
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Mal: Could you be more specific?
I do believe this weekend is a chance for the Rangers
to pour a kill-shot into the A’s and stake their claim to the AL West.
I’ve said it for a while, the Angels are dead. The only remaining comp we have left are the Swinging A’s. Win 2 out of 3 or sweep and it’s over. Hell, winning one out of three takes the air out of the ball and time off the clock.
If the A’s wanna create drama the rest of the way, they need a sweep.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
are you ioranging yourself there?
IT’S NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
wait 'til you read what I have to say tomorrow
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Aug 6, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Where is miles saying it's nothing now.
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"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
Boston Red Sox have a fork stuck in their ass.
Scary team right now are the Minnesota Twins.
15-6 with 126-70 run differential since AS Break.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
yeah
we’re playing either Tampa or NY. Our hope is that whatever team coming out of the central is the one who has the best chance to beat the other of NY or Tampa.
Because I’d infinitely rather face the White Sox or Twins than the Yankees or Rays in a 7 game series.
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Why avoid the MF Yankees?
You’re going to have beat them sometime and a World Series would be that much sweeter if we punched their ticket along the way.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Exactly
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
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"You’re going to have beat them sometime"
No, the beauty is that you don’t have to.
I’d be giddy if Tampa was the Wild Card and the White Sox won the Central and somehow beat the Yankees in the ALDS.
It is far, far, far easier for any team to get through Tampa and Chicago than Tampa and New York.
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I think Tampa is scarier.
They’re very good, they’re hungry, they’re very good, they’re experienced in the post-season, there’s a sense of this being their best shot because Crawford & Pena are leaving.
The scariest thing about the MF Yankees is the atmosphere of their stadium at night in October. That’s why I’m glad we have Cliff Lee to chainsaw their balls off.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I think the scariest thing about New York is they have a lot of baseball players who are very, very good at baseball
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Aug 6, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They are only good because of the atmosphere
And not the daytime atmosphere.
Only at night.
And not during most of the year.
Just October.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely
but that’s also a very tough place to play in October.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
Yes
Because of the very, very good baseball players.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Winners win.
Except when they lose.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And at night, I heartell
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Ridiculous that it impacted a pennant race.
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
It impacts a pennant race every time it gets hit...
…and it’s ridiculous every time that it does. Ol’ “Game 1 has same weight as Game 162” argument.
Replace Jim Knox
Touche', Benji
"When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty."- General George S. Patton
by Aquaman, Esq. on Aug 6, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what you get for playing in a dome.
"We are no longer a ride at Six Flags, we are in contention to do some things that will make our lives complete. I have been waiting for this for a long time." - Chuck Morgan
"There is a LSB party at my place when the Rangers make the playoffs" - TagDon'tTweet
Fuck the Yankmees
To be the champion you have to beat the champion. I want the Yankees, I want to punch them right in their taint!
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
I just want the Rangers to win the World Series.
(not that beating the Yankees wouldn’t be sweet)
But anything that increases our chances of winning the World Series….
… mark me down for that.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
We can worry about that next year
I want to win a playoff series before I start worrying about revenge.
Go Rice Owls!
Don't be a pussy
We can beat the MF Yankmees.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Good teams aren't scared of other teams
I wish more fans thought this way. The Rangers are a good team.
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
It's time.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
my God, I've been waiting a long time to say that about this team with some conviction and actual, real belief that it was realy true.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Officer Bob...
We cannot assume things are going to break for us in 2011 like they have in 2010. Depending on the off-season, I think we have enough in place to do this again next year but after 2011 is a great unknown.
We’re not ramping up to jack shit. We’re here and so is Cliff Lee. We need to win the World Series in 2010 because this may be the best shot we ever get.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
I tend to agree with you
after watching the Mavs 2006 break my heart. In sports, you only have what is in front of you at that time. i’d like to say the window of opportunity is open for a while, but the only given that we have is 2010. That’s why I echo your sentiment…2010 Es Tyne. I was really meaning to say something like “I think this team is capable of doing more…not just getting out of the ALDS, but maybe a legit WS run. Es Tyne.”
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
The window could be open in 2012
but a lot of the pieces currently in place probably won’t be here then and those that are will be older, not better.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
In honor of taking 2 of 3 from the M's and Ichiro striking out vs. Big Game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWuJA6PSyd0&feature=youtube_gdata
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Girl relations?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 12:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
rangerstvjosh i know OAK is east bay.. San Jose is south bay.. what is SF? west bay? will ponder over a duraflame log-sized burrito at la cumbre
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
SF is SF
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
And between San Franscison and San Jose is The Peninsula
I live on The Peninsula.
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
San Francisco is beautiful.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)
The Wales family photo?
"The 2010 Rangers...winning despite Ron Washington"
In the interest of quicker games Ron should just tell the ump he's pulling the Feliz card and the ump should rule the inning over.--Sherman McCoy on Sept. 4, 2009
In his defense, you are a retarded cuntbag by LiamP on Mar 4, 2010
Bummed...
Wanted to register http://www.number6.org
it’s taken :( But the last article posted is about Seattle!
number-6org.com is available!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I think about that a lot around here
I have no idea how everyone manages to be so active on here during typical biz hours. Do you guys just keep a TPS report minimized and alt-tab when Mr.Lumbergh comes peeking around the cubicle?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
No
I’m extremely good at my job, and my boss knows it. And, I’m in a largely reactive (as opposed to proactive) position (system administrator), so if tickets aren’t coming in, I’m good.
Plus my computer faces away from the door.
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
Sort of similar.
Some days I am too busy to post, but as of right now, I am not that busy. If/when I get more work, I will take care of it at that time.
Far too many conference calls here.....
well, that and mad Alt-tab skillz
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I remember one time
I was sitting in a stationary “traffic enforcement postiion” (i.e. it looked like I was watching traffic because my car was pointed toward the street), but was playing solitaire on my computer. Some guy pulled up alongside me on a motorcycle…I was getting pissed because it had been a particularly busy day until that point and I just wanted to “space out” and not deal with people for a while. Turns out it was the city manager (my boss’ boss’ boss’ boss’ boss) just pulllin’ up to say “keep up the good work.” I have never, ever, ever alt-tabbed so fast in my entire life.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
No
I work evenings, so I’m at home now. Our computers in-car don’t have internet access. I believe the way one of our higher-ups put it was “if we let them have the interweb, they’ll just sit around all day jacking it and not working!” Most cops have internet access in their cars because you can do a lot of crime-fighting/info gathering on the internet.
But for the next couple of weeks, I’m chained to an office while I rehab from a shoulder surgery, so I get to watch the games and GDT, which has been fun. Except for tonight, because we don’t get Friday night games (damn you, DFW local TV).
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I heard
that there was a group of police who used to play some online FPS incessantly.
Personally, I could give a fuck what policemen do in their cars when they aren’t responding to calls. I just wish the DPS trouper on 78 north of Farmersville would stop pulling me over and giving me warnings for doing 8 MPH over the speed limit. (of course, now I drive only 3 MPH over the speed limit though that stretch, but…)
being a traffic cop must be boring as hell, especially if people aren’t speeding…..
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
That is considered "training"
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
what's FPS?
Trouper?? Is Hwy 78 in England??
Most departments have traffic enforcement divisions (guy who all they do is run traffic). Motorcycle cops are traffic guys..from what I know, at least in this area, they don’t take calls unless it’s an absolute necessity. F that…I’m a patrol officer. My primary duty is responding to calls for service. I also have to run some traffic, but I don’t run much and I usually write 8+ warnings to each ticket (and most tickets I write are No Insurance or Driving While Suspended/Revoked).
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
FPS
first person shooters if I remember right it was Counterstrike, but it could have been Quake or something else.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
holy crap!
if you bracket something in asterisks, it bolds it???? like this? JAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
well, him pulling you over for 8 over and giving you warnings did the trick
because you slowed down! Mission accomplished…voluntary compliance is my goal. If I don’t need to write a ticket, I usually don’t write a ticket
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I'm gonna use that until everone is sick of me bolding the shit out of everything
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
the first warning didn't do a thing.
it was the second warning the very next day for the exact same amount in virtually the same place on the same fucking road by the same DPS trooper that made me decide to change my habits……
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
So most do, but you don't?
Makes sense, I would imagine, to not. I think it would be pretty distracting, if it were me. Like you said – long day plus traffic enforcement duty = checking espn.com to see what is going on.
I guess you'd get some guys who fuck off a lot and just facebook all day
but we’ve all got internet phones now. Guys who are lazy will always figure out a way to game the system and get out of doing their jobs. Not giving us internet access screws the cop who’s trying to dig harder and “take the next step” in enforcing the law.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
We had a cop here in Austin who was on his phone texting and he ran a stop sign and hit a bicyclist.
Huge deal, since they just passed a law prohibiting civilians from texting while they drive. Law enforcement are able to legally text and drive, so he didn’t get in to much trouble.
The officer said he thought the car was in park… Nice.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
holy shit
that’s not cool. Dumb cops make us ALL look dumb.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I don't think he's dumb, just a little careless.
I would rather have a dumb cop than a careless one. Mistakes happen, I guess.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
yes
and Barnett is seriously giving me some kind of a tumor. I usually try to save all my paperwork around 8 or 9 so I can come in and hammer that stuff out while the game is on the big tv in our briefing room.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Yeah
How come he hasn’t gotten canned yet. BRING BACK VINCE!!!!
hell, someone find a priest and bring Mark Holtz back from the dead. I miss him…. < cry >
“Dave, I knew Mark Holtz and you ARE NO MARK HOLTZ!!!!!!”
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
I would say "I miss Vince"
but it’s not an issue of me missing one guy in particular. It’s an issue of me missing the game because Barnett is terrible. Give me anyone. ANYONE.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
favorite cop show?....GO!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
NYPD Blue
believe it or not, that show is why I became a cop. No shit.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I was going to get into law enforcement / security (something like Diplomatic Security), but then I could no longer be in law enforcement / security
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
wanted to do what you do or perhaps something like Diplomatic Secuirty when I was 18-20 (enrolled in CJ program and everything)
but then I was real stupid in years 21-24 and got arrested.
Could no longer do what you do.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
ah..
gotcha. I was also really stupid from 18-22 (before I wanted to be a cop), but I never got caught. I’m very, very lucky.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
but I think those experiences and knowing that I'm lucky
help me make better decisions at work.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
word
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It's cool you give
8 warnings per ticket. Some guys just love writing tickets, ahem, Dalworthington Gardens PD.
So do you work for the city or are you Highway Patrol?
I get confused with all the different types of cops. Between city cops, Sheriff’s Departments and all the different DPS guy’s (Highway Patrol, the guys that pull over trucks and etc); I can’t keep up with them all.
After I asked the question...
I saw your comment about the city manager being your boss and figured it out.
excellent dedictive reasoning
we have a detective slot open…HAHAHAHAHAHA
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I can start tomorrow.
But only if it is interesting like they make it seem on shows. I don’t think I would want to be in law enforcement with the way all the drugs are now. I sort of considered being a game warden since I am a Wildlife Major and because they are so sneaky. But just about every person they deal with is caring some sort of gun.
eh
Patrol work is far more interesting than investigations, in my opinion. Not every detective call is a homicide or robbery…a lot are property crimes that have a low probability of being solved, so you try to follow up as much as you can, but you hit brick wall after brick wall. So, at the end of your day, you’ve done all this work that ends up being moot. And then your boss wonders why you’re “not getting any work done” because your clearance rate is low.
I could never be a Game Warden because everyone you meet is armed (although 99.9999% aren’t armed to kill you, just the animals and whatnot). I would be on edge non-stop and would never sleep. Plus I get lost easily in the woods.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
I could see that with the property crimes.
Seems like that could be frustrating all the way around. I am sure yall have enough paperwork as it is at the end of day without anything extra.
For the most part, Game Wardens are dealing with decent people. Most poachers are teenagers out having fun or poor people killing for food. But they can run into trouble every now and again. I am not sure Game Wardens ever sleep as it is.
Great show
I was partial to Hill Street Blues. Of course, my all time favorite show ever was Rockford Files but I’m older than dirt and most have never heard of it
by BEW on Aug 6, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is the early version theme song...
…I remember now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtpoO_DlDM
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I've heard that one's great
but, like Mad Men, if you don’t watch from Day 1, you’re confused as hell.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Still working on it
to the third season. Greatness.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
anyone watch rizzoli and isles?
I’ve been fairly pleased with it. Haven’s pretty decent too. both new cop shows.
technally, Eureka is a cop show too.
Mal: Which one you figure tracked us?
Zoë Washburne: The ugly one, sir.
Mal: Could you be more specific?
Dark Blue is greatness
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
lol i can relate
I work armed security most nights and those stationary posts kill me. I’ve had a few impromptu visits from night supervisors midway through a hand of poker on the phone, so I dim the screen, but while they’re talking, they’re getting drowned out by the unmistakable sound of poker chips being stacked and shoved in.
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 1:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hahahahaha
“what’s that noise? sounds like poker chips…”
“uh…it was me. I farted. Yes, my farts always sound like poker chips. They smell like flowers, thought”
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
day and night
I’d sell dickings on the side if I had the time.
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
How much?
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 2:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
your clothes.
Give them to me.
by dolphinpuncher on Aug 6, 2010 2:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Kind of.
"He tagged me way up here," Andrus said, pointing to his chest. "I'm not a midget. My legs are long enough."
by Feliz es bueno on Aug 6, 2010 1:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I work from home.
And some days I work more than others.
by VM on Aug 6, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
For all you Okie's out there
I found the Friday night game on Directv last weekend. It was Channel six hundred something. The network was RSNa or something close to that.
I figured they didn't
since ATT sells it. I have U-verse and thats the only problem I have with it.
Anytime I go to my parents, the TV rarely leaves MLB network.
well, as Josey would say that JD used to say before going to work every day
“Time to make the donuts”
See y’all in a couple of hours.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
Get 'em Sipowicz
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
That takes me back, loved that show
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Hey...let's be careful out there.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
A large portion of this thread made me want to shoot myself in the face.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Aug 6, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
which parts?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Aug 6, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheeks? Lips?
"What ... 92 miles per hour?" Feldman scoffed. "That's not gas. Feliz throws gas."
"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.
by NorCalRangersFan on Aug 6, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Teeth
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
"Josey drives to games??? I always assumed he rides in on his high horse" jam0152
"dirkatron has his own evaluation metric: rapes above replacement." AJM
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