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The Eye of the Elvis


Better than last year

It's no secret -- the improved eye of Elvis Andrus this year has gained much notice and praise (despite his recent struggles).  In case this is news to you, you need only look at last years walk rate at 7.4% compared with this year's 10.8% (roughly 20-25 more walks over the course of the season -- an encouraging one-year improvement for such a young player).

 

What makes Elvis different?

While walking 10.8% of the time is certainly above average and a desirable quality in a leadoff man, that in itself is hardly remarkable (and hardly worth wasting my time writing and your time reading a fan post over); indeed, 25.0% of all qualifying major league hitters have a higher walk rate than Elvis.

Based on my tone in the previous paragraph, you undoubtedly guessed that there is something remarkable about Elvis in this regard.  To see what sets Elvis apart, let's take a look at some other hitters with a similar walk rate:

Directly above Elvis at 11.0%, we have:  Magglio Ordonez, David Wright, Jason Bay, Derrek Lee, Andres Torres, Ian StewartAdam Dunn

Without glancing at the stat sheet, we can readily identify the above as players who can be projected to hit 20+ homers in a season (in general; Torres is having an up year and Lee and Bay are having down years to be sure).  And in case you haven't noticed, Elvis only has 6 homers in 1022 big league plate appearances, none of those six coming in 2010.   And therein lies the difference:  slugging.

 

How unique does that make Elvis?

Let's not beat around the bush:  Elvis doesn't slug, in any sense of the word.  He only has 15 extra base hits so far this year.  In fact, he's 3rd lowest in the majors in ISO (isolated slugging:  slugging avg - batting avg) with a wallopping .041, kept out of the cellar only by the mighty Juan Pierre and Cesar Izturis.  However, this is perhaps what makes him so unique: out of the lowest 20% of qualifiers in ISO, only four have a higher walk rate:

Ben Zobrist (13.2%)

Brett Gardner (12.7%)

Russell Martin (12.4%)

Chone Figgins (12.0%)

To me this is remarkable;  traditionally the highest walk rate guys are mashers, and their good eye is exaggerated by the fact that pitchers are unwilling to catch too much of the plate (which leads to more pitches around the corners).  However, pitchers shouldn't have to fear that too much damage will be done by attacking the strike zone with Elvis (unless there are runners on base), since the odds say that the worst thing he can do with the bat is end up on first anyways.  Just as power can exaggerate the eye of a slugger, I believe a lack of power understates the eye of a, well, non-slugger. 

 

In summary:

If you grew tired of my semantics above, this should give you the gist of the entire post (the last two being the main points):

**Elvis' walk rate has increased impressively from last season, given his age

**Elvis has the fifth best walk rate for players who slug as little as he does

**Elvis' walk rate is all the more remarkable because pitchers aren't as likely to pitch to him carefully

 

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By the way, I hope you found this an acceptable use of a FanPost -- I'm a longtime reader and lurker (I don't comment much).  I used to write over at the "Hello Win Column" blog at http://hellowincolumn.blogspot.com (with lonestarJon), but time constraints forced me to take a step back (at least from writing everyday). I haven't completely given up on the blog, but I'll settle for writing occasional articles like this as FanPosts if you guys find these articles at least halfway interesting.  Thanks for reading!  --John Paul

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Elvis has just done

what the club asked him to do this year. When Borbon was terrible at OBP to start the year, Elvis stepped up admirably. He could obviously hit for more power: doubles, triples and so forth, but why should he? We needed a leadoff man at the top of the order. There have been plenty of times that he won’t swing until the pitcher gets 2 strikes on him. I love that. He is a table setter. I hope he doesn’t try to change that approach. We have enough mashers, we just need ducks on the pond. And keep articles like this coming.

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by rodcarew on Aug 7, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Ichiro

doesn’t do much to force a pitcher to throw strikes. Not that you necessarily have to to become a great hitter, after all, there is alway the Vlad/Pudge school of smacking stuff out of the zone.

I think long term though, the ability to avoid chasing stuff outside the zone, and forcing the pitcher to throw strikes will pay off huge when his power comes in his mid to late 20s.

I much prefer the Elvis development path, where he sacrifices power for OBP in the short term while he is developing, than the Borbon path of trying to emulate Vlad at the plate. I just don’t think there are many hitters physically gifted enough to make the Vlad strat pay off.

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by DJCahill on Aug 7, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

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He could obviously hit for more power: doubles, triples and so forth, but why should he?

Because, despite a higher average and OBP this year, his wOBA is actually lower than it was last year because of that low ISO and SLG%.

I don’t disagree that his walk rate is remarkable and very encouraging for such a young player going forward, but a .041 ISO isn’t acceptable no matter how much you walk. As Jeff Sullivan pointed out recently, and as was discussed in the last edition of LSBR, Elvis isn’t pulling the ball or driving it at all this year and is hitting an insane amount of groundballs as a result.

He definitely needs to change his approach going forward and recover some semblance of a power stroke if he’s going to become an elite player.

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by LSJ on Aug 7, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

when he gets stronger and older, power will largely take care of itself, rather than change his approach in any way.

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by FirebatM3 on Aug 7, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He still needs to start pulling the ball again though.

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by LSJ on Aug 7, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because after all

It’s not like he was this weak last year.

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by LSJ on Aug 7, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

he was looking to pull a lot more, but right now he’s not strong enough to adjust to the fastballs in without looking for it. Once he gets stronger, that’ll take care of itself.

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by FirebatM3 on Aug 7, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather him master

plate discipline in the short term and then worry about power in his mid-late 20s.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Aug 7, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly, it seems like he's already got that down pat

Which is kind of the point John Paul’s making.

Which is why I’d like to see if he could get a few more XBH’s out of his swing over the next month and a half, in preparation for October.

I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw

by LSJ on Aug 7, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey LSJ

I figured I’d see some of your comments on this post after a while . . .

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by John Paul on Aug 8, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sup dude

I wouldn’t trade Michael Main straight up for Bengie Molina, even if my alternate catcher was a pointed stick. - KLaw

by LSJ on Aug 8, 2010 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you underestimate

how tough it is to get a long term habit going, and how easily it would be to lose it “just” by pulling the ball more.

I have no problems if they keep this approach all year, and then try to supplement it in the offseason with a little more power. With his skill set, especially if they work on the mechanics of base stealing (reading pitchers, getting the best possible leads) he can still contribute as a good top of the order guy just by setting the table for Hamilton, Young, Kinsler, and Vlad.

"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays

by DJCahill on Aug 8, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good fanpost

This is a big part of why we’re super-optimistic about Elvis, even with his struggles this year. Once his power develops (and there’s reason to believe it will—- he has a strong lower half and displayed some pop last year) and he begins to swing for the fences a bit more, he could become a legitimately great hitter, as pitchers’ newfound reluctance to throw him strikes is exacerbated by his present patience.
It’s exciting.

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by Conjunction on Aug 7, 2010 11:34 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks

SBN-Dallas has an opening.

by Mike E on Aug 8, 2010 12:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

If you are being serious, I’d love to hear more about it . . . you can find my contact info at my old blog

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by John Paul on Aug 8, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mike E doesn't have that kind of pull.

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by Aqua on Aug 8, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If all hes going to be is a singles hitter then the increased walk rate is great

But I would like to see more power even if it comes with less walks. Although as the leadoff man and hitting in front of Young and hamilton ill take getting on base anyway possible.

Itll definitely be something to keep an eye on next year

by bigsteve on Aug 8, 2010 12:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Welcome, good post

I think you make a fascinating point about a slugger’s eye being exaggerated but a hitter like Elvis’s eye potentially being understated.

Jeff Sullivan had a good analysis this week over at the SBN Baseball page as to where Elvis’s power went. Long story short, his spray chart shows he isn’t pulling pitches deep into LF like last year. Sullivan theorizes that he may be sitting back to better identify pitches, then swinging late and going opposite way without as much power. I think that makes a lot of sense.

I suspect that, once Elvis masters pitch recognition, next year he may start swinging earlier and we’ll see his power rise again. An Elvis with power, patience, and speed will be an unstoppable force.

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by WestTxAg06 on Aug 8, 2010 8:07 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Thanks

I did see that post — it’s actually what inspired me to take a look at the stats and see if there was anything else noteworthy about the whole deal.

Back from a blogging sabbatical to write a few posts here and there . . .

by John Paul on Aug 8, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Next year's sequel...

The Power of the Elvis.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Aug 8, 2010 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I like that

let’s hope it’s a post worth writing

Back from a blogging sabbatical to write a few posts here and there . . .

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by John Paul on Aug 8, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its kinda funny hearing so many people praising Elvis for his approach this year and how hes sacrificed power for a better eye at the plate

Yet when Davis came back up and was doing the same thing he was villified because he should have been hitting bombs. And yes I understand offense, especially power, from 1B is much more important and common than offense and power from SS. But in each case its a young guy who was obviously working on something yet one guy is praised and the other is roasted and people want him gone.

Since June 1st Elvis has a line of 247/335/289 and has walked in 10% of his plate appearances. And hes been hitting leadoff the entire time.

Chris Davis in his brief comeback hit 189/267/245 and walked in 10% of his plate appearances. But he was hitting in the bottom 1/3 of the lineup.

by bigsteve on Aug 8, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

That's still

a 267 OBP, right? and you are wondering why folks are still having problems with that from a 1B versus 335 OBP from a SS?

You really are asking that?

Then again, that’s very El Grande Esteban of you.

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by DJCahill on Aug 8, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

No I completely understand why Davis was sent back down

He was bad. Really bad

But if he was working on patience, waiting deeper on balls and thus not pulling and driving balls for power, its a good thing. Elvis has had more success doing it than Davis did but they were each working on the same things with little success.

Elvis being at the top of the lineup also hurts. You can’t be a leadoff hitter with only a 335 OBP.

All im trying to say is if you are fine with Elvis’ approach this year and see it as a step forward in his development and his future looks brighter because of it then wouldn’t you have to say the same about Davis only he didn’t have the same results Elvis has had. Given Davis’ raw power it would be easier to think he will find it again over Elvis who may never hit for power.

by bigsteve on Aug 8, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's also

a 21 year old shortstop on one hand, a 24 year old first baseman on the other.

"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
--South Korean Rangers fan

by Conjunction on Aug 8, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I just being silly for wondering if it hurts Elvis with the umpires in the long run

when he starts to trot toward first base on what seems like any and every pitch with 3 balls and fewer than 2 strikes?

Has this bothered anyone else?

by snake oil pete on Aug 9, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

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