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And the Rangers are back to 9.5 games up in the A.L. West, after last night's victory and the A's loss to the Yankees.  BP's playoff odds for Texas are now up to 98.3%.

Jeff Wilson's game story calls last night's game a blueprint for how the Rangers want to play in September, with the team wanting to finish strong and not back into the division title.

T.R. Sullivan's game story praises the plays made in the field by the Rangers outfielders, with Sullivan saying this may be the best defensive outfield the team has ever had.

Richard Durrett raves about the Rangers' defensive performance last night.

Cliff Lee went back to Texas to get treatment on his back, which has apparently been bothering him.  He got an injection and will get a couple of extra days rest before his next start.

Evan Grant says that there was a mixture of relief and frustration over Lee informing the team that he'd been dealing with back problems -- relief that there was an explanation for his recent struggles, frustration that he hadn't informed the team earlier so they could treat the problem earlier.

Josh Hamilton received an injection in his knee that the Rangers hope will get him through the next few weeks, until he can get another cortisone shot.

Tim Cowlishaw says we should be more concerned about Hamilton than Lee.

Jeff Wilson's notes include quotes from Jeff Francoeur about how excited he is to be in Texas, and Ian Kinsler saying he's ready to be back in the lineup.

Sullivan says that Francoeur will be in the lineup against lefthanders, meaning that David Murphy and Julio Borbon will share time against righthanders.

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/ yawns / ......./ rubs eyes /

Whoa….hey! The Thursday a.m. Rangers stuff thread is already open…….

Ball....toss.....antlers....

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Sep 2, 2010 7:20 AM CDT reply actions  

This is early....

have a big smashing today AJM?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on Sep 2, 2010 7:28 AM CDT reply actions  

he do what he do

/gutfather

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wonder if he'll be traded to the Red Sox, too.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm more interested in what this'll do to the club's desire to go after him long term.

If he’s already got back problems, that puts a little dent in the whole “he’ll age well” theory.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it brings his price per year down a mil or two...

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Sep 2, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doubtful

Though maybe it would knock a year off the contract length.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't be surprised at all if his price has dropped $1M-$2M per

2008 sabathia went 9-2 with MIL averaging 7.67 per start with SEVEN complete games. MIL won 14 of his 17 starts.

if you are going to use sabathia’s contract as a base of comparison as others here have done, i think it’s very easy to slot Lee $1M – $2M per year lower based on what Buster Olney describes as “the inexplicable slide of Cliff Lee.”

that could very well change, but barring a dramatic improvement, he has backed down from the point in time he warranted the highest contract he could attain.

fair or unfair, he picked a bad time to not be good (and by good I mean $20M per year good).

by sam in so cal on Sep 2, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

good post.

Just wait.....you'll see.....

by b.pate on Sep 2, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

it should

the type of contract people have been talking about giving him already assumes that he’ll remain at peak form through age 36 or so.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 2, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

An injection for Lee as well?

I wonder what the team’s needle budget is this year?

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Considering all the juice the team used to be on?

Probably down considerably…

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Sep 2, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point!

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not that much, needles are pretty cheap

/Mike E

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

especially if you re-use them

keep on rockin' in the free world !

by mkassio on Sep 2, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

the injection

could just be some sort of muscle relaxer, couldn’t it? i used to get them all the time in my back.

"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up."
----Kevin Sherrington of the Dallas Morning News to Bud Selig.

by beaudog on Sep 2, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer the "needle" method over

our previous method: “ripping out a rib”.

by Whiskey in my Whiskey on Sep 2, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey

maybe they are done constructing their cheerleading squad.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yay September!

Also, bio-Josh is scaring me

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 7:35 AM CDT reply actions  

x
The question now is whether or not Lee starts Game 1 of the playoffs,

Hey, Tim….how about we let them finish the season to evaluate the playoff rotation. Maybe, just maybe, Lee gets his act together and pitches like an ace….then you can write another article about how you always thought he should be the Game 1 starter….

Ball....toss.....antlers....

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Sep 2, 2010 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

this is a fucking stupid paragraph
For Game 1, do you think about C.J. Wilson, a 14-game winner who has been at the top of the A.L.‘s best pitchers since the All-Star break? If you’re facing Tampa Bay, which has a much better win percentage against lefty starters, do you think about Colby Lewis for Games 1 and 5?

CJ, possibly depending on how the season goes the rest of the way/if cliff is healthy.

colby lewis though does not get consideration above BOTH a healthy lee and wilson.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

especially not due to the fact TB

“has a better win percentage vs lefty starters”

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Wouldn’t Colby get consideration because of that? TB does better against LHP so throw a top flight RHP at them should give you a good chance to win

Note: I am not advocating Colby start ahead of Lee and Wilson simply based on which hand he throws with

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

xx

vs RHP:
.251 BA
.336 OBP
.404 SLG
.740 OPS

vs LHP
.248 BA
.336 OBP
.397 SLG
.733 OPS

vs power/finesse pitchers:
power: top 1/3rd of the league in K + BB
.227 BA
.338 OBP
.361 SLG
.699 OPS

finesse: bottom 1/3rd of league in K + BB
.261 BA
.339 OBP
.416 SLG
.755 OPS

using win % vs lefty starters is not a good idea. id rather look at the whole picture.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

By those numbers why wouldn’t you want Colby going in games 1 or 2?

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

then 7 point difference in OPS makes all the difference in the world!
/sarcasm

also:
wilson K + BB — 217
lewis K + BB — 216

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes

their K + BB is also so different. i mean wilson’s is one higher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rays do worse against RHP

They also do worse against power pitchers

So I would have my RH power pitcher go as many times as possible

Its not like the difference between Lewis and CJ is that much.

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im assuming "power" pitchers generally have less control due to their velocity

“Finesse” pitchers don’t walk as many but also don’t K as many

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess it's the stat of choice for "Lee should throw more balls" proponents.

If only Harden had pitched as many innings as the other two… he’d be way of them both!

by Closure GT on Sep 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think i miscalculated on my end so ignore the #s for K + BB i put together

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

so we should throw Harden 3 times at them

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Sep 2, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Assuming that Lee isn’t starting Game 1, highly unlikely it seems, Lewis and Wilson have been pretty equal all year.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

i hit post too soon

should say:

colby lewis does not get consideration above BOTH a healthy lee and wilson due to the fact that TB "has a better win % vs lefty starters

sorry

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, Colby never puts the team in a position to win

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

he has not even been able to crack 10 wins!
and his ERA is over 3.5!

they need to get him out of the rotation as soon as possible.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tommy Hunter is our number two

just look at his win/loss

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Sep 2, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

imo big game

should beat sabathia on his W-L ratio alone

by liamluong on Sep 2, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too early for me I guess - I read that as "emo Big Game"

Which is a hilarious mental image….

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Imagine Tommy trying to fit into skinny jeans

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

yep

Lewis H/A is about equal
Wilson slightly better ERA on the road than home
Lewis hasn’t faced NYY – there’s some benefit there to Lewis
Wilson was all right in 11 innings – not stellar

i see merit in breaking up Lee/Wilson agreeing with others that pitching behind Wilson has possibly been detrimental to Lee

Lee is your “Yankee killer” though. He goes out there first. That’s why he’s here – to lead the team in the playoffs.

Lee-Lewis-Wilson?

by sam in so cal on Sep 2, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes

my playoff rotation is Lee-Lewis-Wilson-Hunter

regardless of how well they do from here on out (barring injury or complete implosion).

it allows us to go left-right-left-right, which is good. I think that Harden might make a name for himself as a reliever. He’s got good stuff, he just has a problem with inefficiency, which is one thing a reliever really doesn’t need to worry about.

maybe, we make Harden our 2011 closer and let Feliz come back to the rotation.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

left-right-left-right

Doesn’t this get overplayed? Afterall, these are professional baseball players. I don’t think Evan Longoria is bothered by seeing a LHP SP one day, a RHP the next and then another LHP.

Lee should go in game 1. Game 2 SP should be determined by who is the hotter pitcher and how the other team does vs a certain type of pitcher.

by RangerMad on Sep 2, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Longoria may not be affected

But others might. Plus it keeps those platoon type players from getting in a groove.

Yeah its probably overplayed somewhat but I do think it is a bit of a factor.

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

you look for any advantage

no matter how minute.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

It’d be different if one of our No. 2s was far superior to the other, but when they come out pretty close, messing with the other team a little doesn’t seem like a bad idea.

by philkid3 on Sep 2, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

being overplayed on a broad scale and being overplayed here specifically = different

IF there is some validity to the argument that Wilson and Lee have some/any similarities, then i could see how pitching them back to back is like allowing a batter to see the same pitcher for a 5th, 6th, 7th AB.

I read this yesterday:

If you sit down to watch a baseball game in 2010, there is an 18.5% chance you will see this (a no-hitter through 3 innings).

http://www.sbnation.com/2010/5/23/1483946/no-hitter-jinx-daisuke-matsuzaka-dice-k-dave-stieb-predictions-history

As batters see a guy a 2nd or 3rd time, the likelihood they get hits increases. If the pitchers have similarities, I could see it being disadvantageous to the 2nd guy.

by sam in so cal on Sep 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

it probably doesn't relate well

it goes on to say that you have a .3% chance at actually seeing a no-hitter (down from 18.5% chance you see a ho-hitter through 3 innings). there’s a myriad of factors that are involved, but seeing the pitcher a 2nd and 3rd time are certainly factors in the no-hit bid being broken up.

i attempted to tie it in at the bottom but wasn’t able to i guess. my point was that it’s easy to get guys out the first time through – happens frequently according to the stat. each time it gets progressively more difficult.

you got the point – good.

by sam in so cal on Sep 2, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehe, no problem

It’s a good point regardless

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it gets overplayed if the pitchers are generally equal otherwise

but if you start a righty after a lefty that is worse than him, that’s pretty dumb.

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Sep 2, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ceej has closed the gap between he and Colby lately.

Not so much that Colby doesn’t deserve just as much consideration as the No. 2.

by philkid3 on Sep 2, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

CJ has been better than Colby this year...especially in the second half.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah!

look at the wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

On the season

They’ve been about as equivalent as possible across the board.

2nd half of the season, they were very similar in July, but CJ absolutely dominated August with a 2.53 FIP and 2.11 ERA.

If the playoffs started tomorrow, I’d absolutely ride CJ (figuratively), but it’s obviously going to depend quite a bit on how the two fair in September.

I’m still a little worried about CJ’s durability, but we’ll see (I was clearly wrong earlier in the season expecting his 2nd half numbers to decline).

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was a trendy opinion shared by most of us
I was clearly wrong earlier in the season expecting his 2nd half numbers to decline

by sam in so cal on Sep 2, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

your wrong!!!
I think it’s one of those things where you have to have played a little higher level of baseball than you probably ever have to be able to understand it.

you dont have a clue what your talking about!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

:(

If only I was bigger

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

and could throw curves in early season BP

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw you know some guys from AC are playing in europe, right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way

That played with us? Who?

DK is my first guess—straight baller, and should have robbed Bobby’s HR for me

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

DK is

and has been since college

remember cory stevens

good god he was horrible at AC link

in 37 appearances (27 starts) on the mound he had an 8-17 record with an ERA of 7.06, while striking out 138 batters (89 walks) in 153 innings.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice to see DK's 1070 OPS--jeesus

I never understood why he didn’t transfer out

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn.

2010: 1.260 OPS, .732 slg, .528 OBP

the stargate

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Figuratively my ass...

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Sep 2, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Financial planners

Went with my mom to hear an estate planning presentation (really good dinner, they know how to incentivize).

We have an appointment with the firm today.

He seems totally competent, and at the same time you get from the presentation that estate planning is about accounting and the law. It’s not going to change from one guy to the next, except when dealing with someone who doesn’t know his stuff.

My main question is, how does financial planner X differ from Y in terms of pricing? Is there a way to determine if someone’s charging too much?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Sep 2, 2010 7:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I assume you're talking about a fee-based planner?

I’m not familiar with the going rate on the fee-based side of things, but my dad has been with Edward Jones for almost 20 years. I’ve been around the industry long enough to know you can test a guy’s honest by asking him to explain his fees and pricing structure to you.

If he hem-haws, won’t give you a straight answer, or tries to avoid the question, don’t have anything to do with him. If a guy isn’t confident in what he charges or capable of selling his abilities, I wouldn’t trust hum. But if he gives you a straightforward explanation of what and why, it’s more likely that he’s a straight-up guy.

If he proposes certain planning tools (e.g. annuities or trusts), you should also ask him to explain why he recommends those in your specific circumstances. Attorneys and financial advisers can be bad about getting into “one size fits all” mode with their clients. The planning tools need to be tailored to fit your own unique circumstances.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

strong concurrence

i have done just enough probate /estate stuff to know i am dangerous. i really like Counselor WestTxAg’s warning about atty’s trying to shoehorn you into ‘1 size fits all.’ i had some elderly neighbors did that several years ago , went to one of those guys who put everying thing in a pretty portfolio / folder, but 3 years later when daddy died, they had to undo the whole thing and start over.

keep on rockin' in the free world !

by mkassio on Sep 2, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't do estate planning but the firm does a ton of it (I don't even have a will - I know I'm an idiot)

And there is no “one size fits all.” There’s medical directives, durable power of attorney, medicare/medicaid issues, transferring assets to reduce the size of the estate to make it a short-form probate. But we do flat-fees for simple estates (don’t know how much it is).

First thing you do is educate yourself, which hightower already is doing. Then ask your financial planner, accountant, CPA, bank manager and people who have a lot of interaction with attorneys in financial dealings who they would recommend. If you know attorneys who DON’T do estate planning ask who they would recommend (I say that because if they do estate planning they’ll say “me”). Then price them and find someone who’s been doing it for while.

The exception to what I said is there is some cookie-cutter nature to simple estate planning. My firm has developed various forms they use for that, like an intake form for all the information that would go in the three documents, forms for those, and then will sit down with you to explain everything while you sign and make changes when necessary. Pretty simple.

"You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.

Then he grounded out weakly to second.

by WyoRanger on Sep 2, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

just realized that the next 6 games are

3@Minn and 3@TOR. Not places where the Rangers have played well lately.

by RangerMad on Sep 2, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

don't bring your twitter in here

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

well-played

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just hoping the Angels pull their heads out of their asses

long enough to take at least 2 of 3 from ’em.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Angels always find new ways to screw us, so don't count on it

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

shit!

We’re doomed. Find me a bridge.

by RangerMad on Sep 2, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can we start Harden all 4 games??

He pitches well up there IIRC.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

only if we tell him that we're only giving him one more chance before each start.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

AT this point, isn't he like a kid that just rolls his eyes and says "yeah, whatev" when we do that??

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we'd give him just a little more time to work on his stuff and figure it out, he'll be fine

That’s what he told us.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I fear that too, but we'll be talking about defending our world title at that point, so it really wont matter

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could care less what he does after this season

He wasn’t getting it this season and shows no signs of being willing to do what’s needed to get better. Best of luck to him from here on out, but it doesn’t change things for us.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, could

I actually am physically possible of caring less about how he does after this season than I already do :D

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure a savvy GM can arrange a visa problem....

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

If JD can get Ogando and Beltre out of immigration purgatory, he can put Harden into it

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

on a more serious note,

I’m sure the traveling secretary has thought of this, but are we 100% sure that Ogando and Beltre can get in and out of Canada?

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's actually a good point of curiosity, but yeah I would assume so

Assuming, of course, our traveling secretary did not delegate that to his assistant George Louis Costanza.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can'tstandya!

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Sep 2, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can see it now

Wash: Yeah, Rich, the team is leaving from the bus station down on 8th street. We’ll meet you there.

5 hrs later

Harden: Where the hell is that bus?

Plane flies overhead, followed by the sound of distant laughter

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh wow

Fucked that one up pretty good.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

fucking moron

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats so yesterday

you fucking moron

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for keeping me honest

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

the importance is relative i guess

if september is for resting players and getting ready for the playoffs, these games aren’t a real concern – 2 and 5 is good enough.

if you think that the rangers need to get HFA in order to compensate for being the 4th best of the 4 playoff teams, the MIN series is pretty significant.

someone determined the HFA to be worth less than 1%, but looking at the dramatic differences for TEX H/A and the great home records of the other teams, it seems tremendously important. at least for TEX.

by sam in so cal on Sep 2, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crap on a cracker, this IS up early!

How about that Mitchell Moreland, eh? Me gusta mucho.

Just hope Nelly and Josh make it to the post season. gulp

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd be in favor of Hamilton hitting the DL for awhile, myself

Even if it somehow costs him the MVP, I’d rather have him healthy for the playoffs.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

No need to DL him at all

WIth rosters expanded, just sit him as needed.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nelly's not exactly throttled back has he?

It’s like watching a tight end out there playing right field some times. I love it, but damn.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Sep 2, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's a little like Hamilton in that way - it's full speed all the time, he has no concept of how to dial it down a notch

Kinsler, on the other hand, has no problem dialing it down and mailing it in when need be.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

You gotta love the hustle

And by “love,” I mean cover your eyes with your hands, cross everything you can cross, and pray…

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Serious question

When have you seen him mail it in?

by ed carter on Sep 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was mainly a reference to his not running out pop-ups or not legging out grounders as hard as others do

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

i have no problem with that, btdub.

unless, of course, he was on another team.

then i’d say he was a fucking prick.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

when you have leg problems

its standard not to do that. don’t stress the ankle/groin/hamstring/knee/whatever for a popup which is going to get caught anyway or a grounder you have no chance at beating out.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty disappointed that we had to fight tooth and nail

against the Royals just to take 2 of 3. Granted, Game 1 looked decent. But geez, game 2 was a travesty and last night was a nail biter. Read a quote yesterday that Kinsler said he won’t be 100% until next season. So uh, that pretty much sucks.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

they were

Scrappy. not Nyjer Morgan scrappy… but scrappy.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rajai Davis scrappy?

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Sep 2, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT portable browser

if anyone has been looking for a portable browser to use on your thumb drive…your long search is over.

ive tried pretty much all of the portable browsers that run off of a thumb drive and WOW

its fast (my main problem with most “portable” browsers, they are slow a shit) and it runs well – actually am running it off of dropbox right

its not enough to make me leave chrome at home…but it is enough to make me consider it lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:24 AM CDT reply actions  

This is confusing

a) Are you actually going to tell us which portable browser you’ve chosen?
b) What is a portable browser?

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

thought i did....oops

a) portable opera (vanilla, from their website)

b) browser that runs off of a thumb drive

i use opera unite to stream my music from home —→ school and IE/FF will not allow it to work correctly here in the library, nor will portable…anything other than opera

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting, thanks.

Other than streaming music, why would you run a browser off a thumb drive?

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

can save PW, create profiles, etc

the computers here arent like they are at AC where you save your profile/logon info — wipes the comp clear every time, so this way i can have favorites, etc etc etc

had to use it last semester to get around the school’s blocks (via portable firefox + portable TOR) but now i found out i could have used another opera unite add on to make it a proxy from my house…

also you could use it if you hate IE/FF enough…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see, thanks!

I had no idea that was an option.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard good things about Opera+flash drive

Didn’t I suggest this to you?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

you may have and i forgot

its just so far beyond anything else i have used before portable browser wise

i know how big of a fan you and LSJ are of opera

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll have to check that out

I’ve been using FF from the PortableApps suite, but speed is king with these thumbdrive apps.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

im running it from a dropbox account right now

and its flying.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

You kids with all your screaming and twisting and facebonking need to stop using up my internet

and get off my lawn…..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So, about that Marlins-Nationals fight last night

That was good times. Gaby Sanchez flying out of nowhere and clotheslining Nyjer Morgan was pretty solid.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

best brawl in a minute, Morgan got nailed

He had one good shot at Volstad who dodged it perfectly, then there were 20 white jerseys on Morgan.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Sep 2, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you hear the Marlins tv announcers ranting about how awful of a person Nyjer Morgan is and appalled that Nats bench coach Pat Listach jumped into the fray?

I laughed when they talked about how the coaches usually restrain themselves and Listach’s behavior was inappropriate. Umm, don’t the coaches regularly get mixed up in the brawl?

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

You mean like Pat Corrales?

Yeah, coaches can be worse than the players sometimes.

by Philar on Sep 2, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow!

just watched the highlight myself on ESPN

volstad was READY, threw his glove down and it was on

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

damn just watched it too

morgan looked like he got his head ripped off

by liamluong on Sep 2, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Once, just once

I want to see Big Tom Hunter judo chop the shit outta somebody in a brawl. That would make my season, right there.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

As great as the Scooter Feldman side-armed lap-punch was, I would really like to see a Rangers pitcher throw down on someone like a man

Tommy would be the judo version of Nolan v. Ventura.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then Frank could come in WWE style with the chair to the head

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

a la chan ho park?

well he kicked, butyou know what i mean

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Best Ranger brawls....

Willie Horton went crazy v the Royals in ’77.

Kevin Reimer charged the mound …maybe against the Brewers…sometime in ’91-92.

Toby Harrah landed a hammer to the jaw of Jim Umbarger (who had been traded earlier in year to A’s) in ’77.

DeRosa tackled….Adam Kennedy (?) of the Angels in 2006.

Buddy Bell beat the living shit out of Bruce Kison in 1980. Bell was thrown at earlier in the at bat and after flying out he rounded 1B and went to town on Kison.

The Great Nolan Ryan beat down of Robin Ventura.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was Adam Kennedy in that brawl

That was a decent fight. Feldman hit Kennedy, tried to slap-punch him, then DeRosa did the form tackle.

Wasn’t that a Vinny Padilla start and didn’t he instigate the bad blood that night, or am I misremembering? Either way, I remember thinking a brawl was inevitable that night. I think that was the same game where Juan Rivera was being restrained while he yelled and acted like Mr. Tough Guy.

That was basically the #1 highlight of the last half of that 2006 season.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Padilla

Vinny did love to throw at people. It was one of those things he would do even in a close game.

Rivera….lol, what a pussy. I fuckin’ can’t stand that guy. Looks like most Angels fans share my opinion as well.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poor Robin

I am sure that whenever someone mentions his name the first thing people think is “wasent he the guy that Nolan Ryan beat the hell out of?” I guess he figured that he was younger and could take the old man. Idiot.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere that Ventura kind of laughs it off now and admitted that about halfway to the mound he realized "oh crap, this was probably a dumb idea"

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

And once he was in the headlock

he became certain it was a dumb idea.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

He realized it halfway through

But by then, Nolan had him in the tractor beam. Nothing he could do but submit to the Beating.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't have been as epic or funny

But what if he had just stopped half way there and said

“Nevermind, you’re a 40-yr old Texas rancher who can throw 100 mph…truce?”

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

There was about a 10-15 minute break in the game

after the brawl and after the first pitch to the next batter (Nolan wasn’t tossed), Pudge picked off the runner at 1B.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, brilliant

God, I loved Pudge so much

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still love that Nolan wasn't ejected

He knew exactly how to handle it – defend yourself without being the aggressor, and you get to stay in the game.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

nobody messed w/Nolan

i saw him shake off, i think it was valentine, once when he was coming out of the dugout to pull him.

"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up."
----Kevin Sherrington of the Dallas Morning News to Bud Selig.

by beaudog on Sep 2, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's pretty awesome, not many pitchers can get away with taht

Love the signature, by the way. As a fan of both Nolan and McMurtry, that’s quality.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's the only one

i’ve ever seen shake a mgr off like that. it was like he was shaking the sign off from a catcher. i’ve seen them talk their way out of getting yanked but nothing like that.

and thanks.

"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up."
----Kevin Sherrington of the Dallas Morning News to Bud Selig.

by beaudog on Sep 2, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

Nolan was a classy guy and commanded respect when he played. I would have thought Ventura was a stupid bastard for going after him to begin with.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

He commanded respect

but he also believed in owning the inside of the plate. Nolan threw plenty of chin music in his day.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

No argument there.

He has said several times that pitching inside is part of the game and that hitters sometimes had to be reminded of that.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ryne Sandberg said his plan for facing Nolan was "stand as far away from the plate as possible and hope it ended soon"

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I saw an interview where Robin said he didn't want to charge.

Something about how Nolan had hit somebody on the team last time they faced each other, and the entire team made a pact that if somebody got hit they would have to charge. Sort of explains the hesitation before he turns and goes.

I’ll try to see if I can find a source on that.

by Past A Diving Michael Young on Sep 2, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I never tire of hearing “Nolan is a badass” stories. Still my all-time favorite baseball player.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has anyone read his book "Kings of the Hill?"

 It’s full of funny pitching stories about all the famous greats.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

whose?

nolan

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's older correct?

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct.

I will try and find my copy and get a date. He was still pitching at the time so yes it’s very old.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is this it?

Kings of the Hill: An Irreverent Look at the Men on the Mound from 1993?

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats the one.

If you can get a copy it’s a great read.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

link

amazon

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can get the hardback for $3 and change

if you have amazon prime

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have prime.

I was signed up then it ate $200 out of my account so I dropped it and got my money back.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

good news

if your a student you get it with a working .edu address for free

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have my .edu address as my log-in

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

go check it out

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I checked and saw nothing.

Maybe I’m looking in the wrong spot.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

here you go

link

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I recommend it to any Nolan or baseball fan.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Sep 2, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

REC! cool story JW

This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.

by BigGuns on Sep 2, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The second most memorable thing about the Adam Kennedy fight

was John Lackey The Drunk stumbling out of the dugout looking for somebody to fight.

by Past A Diving Michael Young on Sep 2, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forgot all about that, that was great

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was asking for it.

With all of the catcher bashing he’d been doing, and IMO arrogantly stealing 2nd and 3rd last night, Nyjer was making it easy for the pitchers to want to throw at him. And when I say arrogantly stealing, I mean that it looked like he was taking those bases as sort of a fuck you to the Nats.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

he arrogantly stole 2nd/3rd after he got hit the first time tonight btw

with his tema down 8-3 i believe.

this was not his first AB

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

They were down 14-3, not 8-3.

Hence the reason he got hit a second time.

by michael bluth on Sep 2, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

it wasn't morgan's team that was down

they were winning 14-3 at the time that he stole the 2 bases

by Houston27 on Sep 2, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

No they weren't, the Nationals were the ones losing

It was 15-5 Marlins leading when the brawl happened.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I was confused.

I was understanding it as the Marlins being upset because Morgan stole the 2 bases when his team was up by 11. I think I heard it incorrectly.

by Houston27 on Sep 2, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I initially assumed when I heard the Marlins were mad about his stealing bases

It seems more reasonable for a team to be mad when the other team has a big lead and is stealing bases to pad their stats (that’s poor taste like bunting or scoring from first on a double when you’ve got a double digit lead).

But I dont see why trailing by 11 and stealing bases is as bad.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it IS as bad

Except, as noted, the intensity of his slides, and the fact that a steal does precious little to help the team come back form that far.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

they are pissed cuz he dislocated their C's shoulder

in the 10th inning the other day

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

AND that he was trying to show them up by stealing the bases.

His stealing isn’t going to help his team down 10. His stealing will pad his stats and embarrass the pitcher/catcher. Just douche moves. All that said, Morgan seemed awfully defiant when leaving the field. I have to think there is more going on. Why did Morgan lay out the catcher after dislocating the other catcher’s shoulder. Morgan seems really pissed about something.

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by Parman on Sep 2, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

fuck that shit

if you cant throw him out, then dont bitch about it

its like when the cowboys got the score run up on them.

the guy he dislocated’s shoulder is the guy from the marlins the night before.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Nats ended up scoring 10 runs in the game

They obviously didn’t give up and who knows that run may have ended up being significant.

I don’t think you can ever get mad about someone still playing hard in the 4th inning no matter the score.

If its the 7th or 8th and you have a 10 run lead…yeah sure bget pissed. But in the first half of the game nothing should be considered “against the rules”

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

there is.

and throwing at a guy 2x is chicken shit.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

you sent your message

so what happens when you hit a guy and end his season?

does that give the nat’s the right to throw and hanley 4x a game?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I understand your point about escalation

But you really need to take a sec and think about this – do you REALLY want to be the one energetically defending this DBag???? His rap sheet of outside the lines behavior is getting pretty long.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

your thinking of someone else

elijah dukes i think is who your thinking of

and the nats cut him in may

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I'm talking about Morgan

Check out his last few weeks

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes

he threw a ball into the stands (dumb as fuck)

yes, he bumped anderson.

no, that does not make him elijah dukes. and in fact his rap sheet is completely between the lines (baseball @ fan, catcher x2)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I meant outside the lines as in "not the right way to act"

Dude seems to have something stuck in his craw to last few weeks.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

who knows what his issue

to me, hes not a guy who has had lots of issues in the past so i am willing to give him (somewhat) of a pass

but yes, i am willing to defend him. i think throwing behind was chickenshit. i think what helms said about disrespecting the game by hitting the C in the 10th inning was chickenshit.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I might agree more if

If it didn’t seem like it was only him that was breaching this “etiquette” and if he didn’t have this recent steak of being a knucklehead at best, a Dbag at worst.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he is just stealing bases after getting hit.

Not so bad! If it would have been old school time he would have been spiking people. Stealing bases is mild. A second throwing behind him incident is probably going to get a charge on the mound.

by Philar on Sep 2, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But I fail to see how stealing bases is “dirty”. He went in a little hard but it was head first. Had he gone in feet first and tried to spike your guys thats dirty sure.

The first HBP was warranted for him running over the catcher even though it was a good hard play. But throwing behind him was more dirty than anything Morgan did in that game IMO. Not to mention Volstad had also hit two other guys earlier in the game.

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is how i feel

you hit him, and made your point.

2nd time is chickenshit.

i hope they hit hanley now.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

(not really on hitting him lol)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

(not really on hitting him lol)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta agree

You throw at a guy, he has a chance to dive out of the way or let it hit him. They did that, in the 4th. Baseball gods appeased.

But you throw behind a guy, you’re expecting him to jump back instinctively and get hit by it. You’re still trying to hit him. To me, that crossed the line. And fuck all this “he shouldn’t be stealing bases.”

IT’S THE FUCKING FOURTH INNING. Anything could happen. I try to manufacture as many runs as I can, regardless of how many runs my team is down.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's fucking idiotic and just reeks of not actually understanding how the game should be played.

Once you’re down 11 runs and the other team isn’t even holding runners anymore, you need to hit your way back into it, not steal two bases to pad your own stats.

by michael bluth on Sep 2, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

its the 4th inning

to not hold runners is stupid.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

uh

he was being held on. which is why bitching about him stealing is wrong.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

A winning team should not have complaints about what the losing team is doing in the 4th inning.

That’s just plain dumb. If it’s drastically stalling the game, i.e. changing pitchers multiple times in a late inning despite a giant deficit, I understand the annoyance.

But Nyjer was right to play aggressively. It’s completely in the realm of possibility to score 10 runs in 6 innings.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

If a team wants to slack off and think the game is over in the 4th inning thats their choice

The other team doesn’t have to oblige and if they start stealing and scoring runs then so be it.

Hold them on better next time

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The best thing that happened

to the Nationals this week is that they fired the cocksucker known as Rob Dibble.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 2, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha what a dumb ass

That’d be like insulting Nolan Ryan in Texas. What was he thinking?

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Much fail in this post.

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by AceJC on Sep 2, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

"The fail is strong with this one"

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not really saying that Morgan stealing was a bad idea...

But I did pick up that with the intensity of the way he was heading into those bases, I can see why the Marlins took some offense to it. To me, it looked like he was saying “Look at me” … and pretty much confirmed it after the brawl was over with him throwing up devil horns and pulling at his jersey acting like he was King Kong.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you don't steal bases down 11 runs, you've got to hit your way back into it.

It’s not doing anything by padding your own stats. Not to mention that he came across both second and third pretty hard on the steals.

by michael bluth on Sep 2, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

michael bluth got what I was trying to say...

Morgan went into those bases with authority … more oomph than what you would typically see out of someone taking a base.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

he had just been hit as retaliation

what did you expect him to.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

He got hit in retaliation for something he had done the night before.

It all would have been over if he just stayed at first base and not been flying around the field for no reason like a jackass.

If he wants to steal bases like he did in an 11 run game then he shouldn’t be surprised if he gets thrown at in his next at bat.

by michael bluth on Sep 2, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is a crock of shit.

it wasnt him “showing his guy up” or “showing up the game” by hitting the catcher.

he should have slid (and would have scored the go ahead run) — but he didnt.

its the TENTH INNING of a game. the nats have been shitty and would like to win.

was it him being dirty? no i doubt it.

hitting him once is enough. throwing behind him AFTER hitting him is chickenshit.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

The catcher was standing on top of home plate

He didn’t give him anywhere to slide. If he had been standing off to the side a bit like normal then yes Morgan should have slid but if the catcher wants to be big and tough and stand directly on top of home in a tie game in extra innings then he deserves to get ran over if its a close play

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

im with you.

wes helms blasted him for showing up the player and game.

simply not true. a run puts your team ahead with only 3 outs left for your bullpen to get.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

How is it not being dirty?

The catcher was on the other side of the plate, not blocking it, and was standing upright and reaching up to catch the ball. You even said it yourself that he should have slid and would have scored the go-ahead run.

And yes, stealing when you’re down 11 runs and the other team isn’t even bothering to hold you on is showing up the game, whether you understand that or not. Even if you somehow disagree with that, aggressively sliding past both bags is a bullshit move by itself and he deserved to get hit again.

But if he wants to act like a dumbass and do all of that anyways, then he shouldn’t be surprised when he gets thrown at a second time.

by michael bluth on Sep 2, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

no
The catcher was on the other side of the plate, not blocking it, and was standing upright and reaching up to catch the ball.

the catcher was standing ON the plate.

and no, its the fucking 4th inning, how is it “showing up the other team”

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

The catcher wasn't blocking the plate, he was standing fully upright, fully exposed.

and stealing the bases in that situation is showing up the other team because they are refusing to hold you on and you take two bases to put yourself in position to score a meaningless run.

I think it’s one of those things where you have to have played a little higher level of baseball than you probably ever have to be able to understand it.

by michael bluth on Sep 2, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

final score

16-10

HUGE blow out.

I think it’s one of those things where you have to have played a little higher level of baseball than you probably ever have to be able to understand it.

out of curiosity, what level did you play at to be able to tell me this?

(full disclosure: i played college ball)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

i bow to your greatness.

dont be a fucking moron. just because i didnt play MLB ball, doesnt mean i dont understand the game of baseball.

equally, i would think that someone who played at OSU would be think it would be chickenshit to throw at a guy more than once. it would have been one thing had he lit the catcher up in the 3rd inning of a 19-0 game. but he hit the catcher in the tenth inning. of a 0-0 tie game. was it questionable decision (or bad judgment) to hit the catcher — yes it was. but it was a close game and he may not have known for sure where the ball was.

but to say i dont understand baseball enough to figure shit out is stupid.

it would be one thing if he pimped the shit out of a HR in the 4th inning (a la engel beltre) but he was stealing bases. if your stupid enough to not think a team can come back in the 4th inning of a game that your not holding runners on you deserve to lose. and if your stupid enough to think that the nats couldnt have come back in innings 4-9 im not sure what you did on the team at OSU.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

But you don't understand baseball enough to get it.

It’s not just about whether the Nationals can come back or not being down 11 in the 4th inning, or whether he should have run the catcher over the night before. It’s about playing like a professional, you don’t show up another team when they’re not holding you on with an 11 run lead. Take second if you want to steal a base and stay out of the double play, but don’t take third on the very next pitch and come across the bag when you slide in hard and late. If you do shit like that, then don’t be surprised when you get thrown at a second time.

where did you play college baseball at by the way?

by michael bluth on Sep 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

xx
It’s about playing like a professional, you don’t show up another team when they’re not holding you on with an 11 run lead.

like not throwing behind a guy?
or not overreacting in the 10th inning of a tie game?
i personally find it unprofessional to NOT hold a guy on in the 4th inning.

i played at a division 3 school.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think we talked about that before

I played at D3 McMurry

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really? I didn't realize you were a veteran of Abilene

Cool beans.

Driggers is a nice field. Wish it had more seating.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Driggers is one of the nicest fields in

D3 baseball

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

yessir

you are GOET right?

i think we did talk about it…they had a baller this year — he and my bro had comparable stats other than BA

my bro played at howard payne and ETBU both

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is not goET

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

thought i had talked about it w/ GOET

he is the poster formerly known as….

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

i am definitely not GoET.

he handles the twitter page, I handle the lsb forums.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

now im curious

i know theres a number of guys who were D-3 on LSB (cave, me, etc)

if you dont want to say who you used to be, feel free to shoot me an email — but now i want to know lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Former Abilenians dominate LSB

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

by Bob Loblaw on Sep 2, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here here!

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the catcher is standing on top of the plate he is blocking it

Doesn’t matter if hes turned around watching some smoking hot babe bend over to pick up a drink hes blocking the plate. Most catchers know this and will stand off to one side a bit which gives the runner a clear path to slide. The Marlins C the other night didn’t and paid the price for it. Not to mention it was a tie game in extra innings and nothing about that should be construed as dirty. it was a hard play that warranted retribution which was paid by hitting him right in the rib/hip area. Fine…problem solved.

But then you go and throw behind the guy that is bullshit and the pitcher deserved to get charged.

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think people might be tired of you throwing out the "you've never played" schtick

Many of us have played (KOK and I played together, in fact).

It just makes you look a tool.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’ve now met KoK by proxy then. Nice, after chatting with him for all these years.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

where did yall meet?

suite night?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yessir!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

just sent you an email!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've met KoK and he's one cool dude!

This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.

by BigGuns on Sep 2, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

GTFO lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

aww

you beat me to it

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the were holding him on at 1b

And nope, catcher was on the plate

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Sep 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm backing off on my entre stance here

Just realized Morgan now has 33 steals with 15 (FIFTEEN!!!) times caught. This on top of a career line of 91 steals while caught 40 times.

Clearly his base-stealing acumen is just what the Nats needed to jump-start the comeback.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, whether it was a good idea to steal is a completely different argument

Than whether the other team has a right to be upset that he stole.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

just pointing out that he said a fuck you to the Nats.

I was clarifying that it was the Marlins.

by Houston27 on Sep 2, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for clarifying man.

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's dumb.

“You’ve got to hit your way back into it.”

If he can manufacture a run, more power to him. When you’re 11 runs down and it’s only the 4th, you’re trying to peck away at the lead.

by Past A Diving Michael Young on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

The argument is further strengthened if there were less than 2 outs.

But being on 3rd>2nd anytime, regardless.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

There were 2 outs

"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2

by Parman on Sep 2, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

No there weren't

He scored on a sacrifice fly

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct sir

I shall submit myself for flogging at dawn.

"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2

by Parman on Sep 2, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that's the case

It’s even more insane that they questioned it.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, sorry...

Happy birthday to Kenny. Happy birthday to you.

by Adebesi on Sep 2, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

that hit on Morgan

was priceless, I watched it 20 times laughing my ass off the whole time

by shock00 on Sep 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Gabby could've gotten more in his clothesline, if he didn't slip.

Morgan could’ve been knocked out cold, if he landed it right.

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by IrishP1 on Sep 2, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Props to Murph on that grit-rific slide to break up the DP last night

I don’t remember if it led to a run, but I remember really liking that play.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Sep 2, 2010 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

And the catch to end the 6th.

"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2

by Parman on Sep 2, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney has an interesting comment on the Josh Lueke-Mariners saga this morning

Jack Z and friends claimed at one point that they didn’t know anything about Lueke’s incident in Bakersfield, but evidently that’s not the case. Not only is Adair throwing the organization under the bus, but JD is playing the role of the good, wholesome, honest GM who offered to take him back.

Methinks that the Seattle front office is not nearly as organized and capable as we originally thought. They’ve got problems.

• Former Seattle pitching coach Rick Adair says he warned the Mariners about the criminal record of a player Seattle acquired in the Cliff Lee deal, and Texas GM Jon Daniels says he made a standing offer to take the player back — which runs counter to what the Seattle front office has maintained. This is not going to go over well.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=olney_buster&id=5522698

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Ha, ole Jack

Seems to be a bit arrogant.

by octoberty on Sep 2, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he really does

I can’t figure out why they tried to act like they didn’t know about Lueke if they actually did. If you know and you acquire him anyway you say “he’s had an issue, but it was a one-time thing and we believe he’s past it, yadda yadda.” But why pretend to be surprised and act like you were misled?

Then, when you fire your pitching coach and he knows the truth of your deception, it becomes harder to cover your tracks.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

franchises do this all the time. Whether…he’s a new man…or that was an alleged incident and the truth finally came out.

Here Jack…take this shovel and start digging. Maybe you’ll dig yourself right out of a job.

by Doc Mabee on Sep 2, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

The M's and Lueke

Do they not have access to the Internet in the Mariners’ front office?

You’d think what with being the #6org and all, that Jack Z would be smart enough to do a Google search on any players they’re thinking of acquiring. It took me all of 5 seconds to type in “Josh Lueke” and hit enter- and lo and behold, one of the first stories mentions “Lueke’s criminal past.”

Hey, I’m now qualified to run the Mariners! Yay!

by RCCook on Sep 2, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

No joke, it's pretty amazing that the allegedly most tech-savvy front office in the game claims to have missed a story that was all over the intertrons

Either they actually don’t know how to operate computers or Jack Z is just a liar.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

#6 organization

Remember guys, you only think their front office is in shambles because you don’t know better. The front office is better than you and you better remember it.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's only a matter of time before Dave Cameron writes an article that professes to chastise Jack Z but actually defends his screw-up

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

from another story
When asked why, Zduriencik replied: “In all the deals I’ve been in all the years, I can’t remember anybody saying ’I’m running a Google [search]’ to figure out what a player’s done.”

He added: “That is our policy now. We are doing that. We have done that since that moment.”

link

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they weren't doing it in the last few years that's poor management IMO

It’s been in the news for at least 2-3 years that companies EVERYWHERE are doing Facebook and Google searches for potential job candidates.

And these are for recent college grad hires where the company has a lot less money invested in the decision than a freaking MLB franchise.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

JD

Does anyone think that JD has the right to tell them “Hey, this guy’s an alleged rapist?”

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Its not his business to talk about it unless he’s asked first.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I kind of think if you’re trying to establish a good reputation as someone worth making trades with, that I would disclose that sort of thing.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

obligation or right?

does he have the right to speak about it? As in he shouldn’t say anything about it for Lueke’s sake.
or
Is it his obligation to mention it?

by ed carter on Sep 2, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Horray! This is what I'm going over in 3 of my classes.

BLaw, Ethics, and Accounting.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Sep 2, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blaw key is reasonable.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know MLB is it's own little world

But in business you wouldn’t divulge that; any good HR person woould tell you that giving references, even when asked, is a dicey proposition. You generally speak in code phrases like “Would you hire them back?” instead of divulging any details.

In this case, with it being public record, I think the M’s scouting guys screwed the pooch if Z really didn’t know.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah. In the real world, if JD goes "Oh yeah, he's also a rapist. Just thought I'd throw that in there for you benefit."

and he gets cut, if he finds out JD said that, he could possibly sue JD for that.

Of course, that is a real world comparison. I’m sure there are different rules governing the MLB.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Sep 2, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for this perspective

I’m ignorant about these kinds of things

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think JD's rep is pretty good

He’s always been honest and up front to fans and the media and has said before that he prefers dealing honestly with other GMs.

If it were me, I wouldn’t be that truthful, but I can’t imagine JD actually not telling Z about this or Z not knowing from the beginning.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm all ears...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uhhh

Seems pretty self-explanatory to me. :-/

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh just the age old tale

Of your chick breaking up with you after she nags you over your accumulating bar tab and you proceed to tell her she should be named Yeast Infection because she’s an irritating cunt sometimes.

by dolphinpuncher on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

who is this guy?

youre telling my usual thursday-saturday tales

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

You two broke up???

But… you seemed so close…..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Sep 2, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

to strangling each other.

Which, coincidentally, she enjoyed to an extent in the sack.

by dolphinpuncher on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

ok, tmi

I know there’s an extent to take the gloves off about your ex,
but seriously, we don’t want to know.

plus, I think its in bad taste to post naked pictures of your ex onto web boards.

at least, its bad taste if you don’t link it here…. :D

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite new poster?

I think so.

/Aquaswoon.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Sep 2, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, Murphy/Francoeur platoon with Borbon as a replacement.

Please let Hamilton’s knee hold together in CF.

Pro baseball has always been a dream, so this is pretty freakin’ cool out here. -- Tim Steggall, undrafted Rangers minor leaguer.

by rooster on Sep 2, 2010 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Provided of course, Gentry's healthy.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well by that logic I'd rather just use Hamilton

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Sep 2, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

White lightning

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

A pinch runner/CF defensive replacement that can keep a runner from going first to third.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

With the broken write..and surgery

(pretty sure he had surgery)

Dont think he’ll be playing CF defense. I think he’ll be relegated to pitch running

by Doc Mabee on Sep 2, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs take

Herr

I really just can’t believe the Rangers would start Francouer in the playoffs over Murphy, even vs. a lefty.

If we need to pinch-hit for Julio late in the game, so be it.

But I’d much rather have Murphy playing everyday and staying in the groove of things than hope for one or two more hits based on splits.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, that BBTF link was deep fried awesome.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Leave Murph in, Frenchy is good to have in case there’s an injury in the outfield between now and the end of the year. Plus it allows you to have Borbon be a defensive sub late and then have a pinch hitter for him against lefties if needed. Plus there’s always the chance he’ll catch fire and add significant value, but at worst it was a free pickup that adds nothing to the team but depth.

my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Sep 2, 2010 11:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good morning Mr. Fiction!!!

It’s a beautiful day in the LSB neighborhood!!

Kins, Nellie and Josh will ALL soon be in the line-up.

Although I’d give Josh as much time as he needs if not more.

This shit ain't over til Bengie Molina sings.

by BigGuns on Sep 2, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least half of the MLB teams looking at him

as of yesterday

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any indication when/where he will sign or anything?

I’m not suggesting we will sign him; I’m just curious about any news….haven’t heard anything at all.

by FuturePants on Sep 2, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not yet

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 2, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

One of the BA guys said he was not expected to sign in any immediate time frame

Not like he’s going to pitch for a team this fall anyway.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It may also push back his Rule 5 date

So teams may want to wait a little bit especially since he needs surgery and will miss some time

by bigsteve on Sep 2, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has it been determined that he definitely needs surgery?

He was pitching in the Cape Cod this summer.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

According to them, he failed the physical but I thought the extent of the recovery (whether it was a rest/rehab thing or a surgery thing) was indetermined

I’m checking with an Aggie source right now.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

they broke off negotiations after the physical

but my understanding is it was kind of a punt the pick at that point in time

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a great "Byrnes and his guys were stupid, we want a do-over" excuse for DiPoto

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate when people claim that a team "backs in" to a playoff spot

Wins in April, May, and June count just as much as wins in September and October do.

Yes, I’d prefer the Rangers play well the final few weeks of the season. But if they play .500 ball the final 3 months of the season and still wind up with 90 wins and a division title, they have earned it. They haven’t backed in to anything.

"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa

by Hard8 on Sep 2, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, in the sense that we play in a shit division and have the fewest wins of any division leader in baseball you probably could argue we sorta have

But that’s still an overall thing.

I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM

by LSJ on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point, LSJ

Of course, the Rangers could win every game the rest of the way and people would still say (rightly so) that the AL West was pretty bad this year.

"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa

by Hard8 on Sep 2, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there a relationship comparing teams records in september and their playoff results?

Like do teams who get incredibly hot in the last few weeks off the season tend to do better in the playoffs thanks to some sort of momentum?

by MonkeyEpoxy on Sep 2, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming there are plenty of recent results that could support either side of the argument

Like Doc Mabee pointed out below, teams like the Rocks and Phillies benefitted from getting hot late in the season. Last year in the NL, I think all 4 postseason teams had losing records in Sept, so no one had this fabled “momentum” we all hear about.

The 2006 Cardinals and the 2000 Yankees were bad in September but the postseason worked out well for them.

"Don't confuse the outcome that a decision produces with the intelligence that went into making that decision."--Tony LaRussa

by Hard8 on Sep 2, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

there is something

to be said about going into the playoffs on a hot streak though.

#rockies 2007
#phillies 2008 won 21 of their last 31 or so

To be fair though…once you get to the playoffs…ANYTHING can happen.

#cardinals lost 17 out of their last 30 to finish at 83-78

Of course….there’s everyone in between as well. But going in playing good baseball is pretty important.

by Doc Mabee on Sep 2, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

WTF

Will Jeter Get A-Rod Money?

Linked by CNN on their front page. First comment saying how Jeter will get four years, $100 million. I hesitate to think even the Yankees will pay him even half that. How old is Jeter? 34?

by FuturePants on Sep 2, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Derek Jeter just turned 36.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same here

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Almost made me crack up at work

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was a key piece of Dave Cameron's justification that the M's were the #6 organization in baseball

He listed all the “young” Mariners “stars”, like Jose Lopez and Ryan Roland-Smith as reasons that they should be ranked along side Texas, Tampa, and Minnesota.

I hope Dave Cameron gets mocked for the rest of the history of the internet for that post. The ranking was dumb, the justifications for it were just classic…

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 2, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might have let it go for the most part

if he didn’t go back and do that bull shit revisting a few weeks ago.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that just made it worse

He did everything he could to try and justify that ridiculous ranking without coming out and saying he screwed up.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now let's be fair, he would need to say WE screwed up.

Dave deserves crap for a lot of things, as smart as he is, many of them #6org related, but he doesn’t get all of the blame for a group project.

by philkid3 on Sep 2, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He gets all the blame

when he takes it upon himself to defend that ranking in any way and then take his ball and go home when he is is confronted about his BS defense.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did he ever do the second half of it? If he did I didnt see it, I was too amazed at the first half of the essay to check back for the second

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Picked up his toys and went home

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, good point

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

for making me giggle at work.

"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest"
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by Conjunction on Sep 2, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, two things

1) Jeter is never leaving the Yankees
2) The Yankees will treat Jeter well.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they gave him some sort of deal like 4/100, but structured so that a lot of money is deferred and he has one of those 10 year organizational contracts tacked onto the end, where essentially his deferred money is paying for his organizational time (like Nolan with Texas through the ‘90s, where he didn’t really do anything…)

The other thing is that Jeter, while having a down year this year, was simply awesome last season. He’ll get to 3,000 hits next year, and depending on how he ages, I would say he is at a 10% chance of 4,000 hits (if he played for 6 or 7 more seasons).

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Sep 2, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good points

The thing is neither party really has negotiating power, though. So I don’t know how he’s going to work out that large a contract, other than the Yankees just showing appreciation for a lifer (which happens so rarely these days).

If Jeter signs with another team, he won’t be an immortal with them. When his offense and defense start to fall, he will get booed, disrespected etc., etc.

And the Yanks can’t lose Jeter for so many obvious reasons.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: worst high school (football) plays in history

yahoo link

No one knows where or when this particular scholastic disaster occurred, but for some reason the Zapruder film evidence of its splendor first surfaced on TheScore.com Friday morning, via a cryptic site calling itself Gossipberry.com (which, after a bit of research, we’re convinced doesn’t actually exist). In the hours since, we’ve taken breaks from waxing lyrical on high school coaches and eligibility issues by trying to figure out what the running back in this clip was doing running in the wrong direction.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Non producing rig

This isn’t the BP deal all over again.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not actively producing could mean a lot of things, many of which would require the presence of people

They could be in the process of plugging and abandoning the well. The well could have been producing but production was suspending for reworking or well servicing operations.

Without more information, there’s really no telling.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's good to hear

Couldn’t find any information other than “oil rig”.

Meh.

by spaceblues on Sep 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

x

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=13089364

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey guys JJT is on with norm RIGHT NOW

tune in for some serious Hot Sports Opin……BULLSHIT

by ed carter on Sep 2, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

OMIGSH WE CANNOT MISS THIS I BET HE HAS LOTS OF INSIGHT ABOUT THE RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't listening very closely

but I think I heard him say something about cliff lee getting up in counts 1-0, 2-0

by ed carter on Sep 2, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think I need to remind anybody

that the owner of the Texas Rangers will be on LSBR tonight to take your questions and talk Rangers baseball… Cause thats a big deal, and none of you should miss it.

But I dont need to remind you, everyone looks at the rec posts…

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by FormerLSBUser on Sep 2, 2010 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Hardball Talk stupidity
Gabby Sanchez gets points for style with that flying forearm he threw, but it seemed like excessive force to me. Morgan was certainly the aggressor, but he’s also a little guy who obviously can’t fight

You go after a pitcher, all is fair. If you you’re a “little” guy that can’t fight keep your ass in the batter’s box.

by ed carter on Sep 2, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, any "leave the little guy alone" argument fails when the little guy starts the fight in the first place

It’s not like the little guy was an innocent bystander who Sanchez randomly decided to attack without provocation.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what I was thinking

Its not like Adam Dunn took off after Tim Lincecum

by CRUSHDAVIS on Sep 2, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's an old saying:

never pick a fight with a little guy, he’ll kill you.

and to some extent its true. little guys usually have an enormous chip on their shoulder and are ready to fight all the time. They’re also usually pretty good at it. Big guys tend to be more mellow, because most people are too intimidated by them to actually fight them.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

napolitan syndrom

"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up."
----Kevin Sherrington of the Dallas Morning News to Bud Selig.

by beaudog on Sep 2, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Spelling FAIL

OMFG

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes/yes fail

i’d fuck up a wet dream

"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up."
----Kevin Sherrington of the Dallas Morning News to Bud Selig.

by beaudog on Sep 2, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jack Z is a loser

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2012784518_lueke02.html

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 2, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

ohhhh snap!

In your face, Jack Z

"The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic" - Charles Darwin, you know who he is...

by 8legs2fangs on Sep 2, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

When his story is contradicting the stories of multiple other parties, I suspect he's lying

My theory right now is that Dr Z either didn’t fully do his homework or didn’t worry too much about it, which is fine, but then he didn’t tell Chuck Armstrong. Then when Chuck found out, Dr Z tried to cover it up, claim ignorance, and blame the Rangers.

Now Adair is telling everyone that Dr Z wasn’t ignorant of the details after all. And JD telling everyone he’d take Lueke back isn’t helping Z’s contention that “it’s all the Rangers fault and they wouldn’t change the deal!!”

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's why you don't throw people under the bus

The Mariners basically threw Wak and Adair under the bus for this season and now they’re further getting screwed over because of it.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Sep 2, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't imagine Adair has any interest in remaining on Z's Christmas card list

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised we havent seen this headline:

Mariners trade Cy Young winner for rapist.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why the Mike E puppet jokes don't get more love some are gold.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

well.

that one was just stupid.

Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.

by iblum on Sep 2, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Truthfully, when I made it...

I had thought you left off winner, but now that I like, I see it is there. Therefore, it didn’t really make sense.

by octoberty on Sep 2, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not every post snake.

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

no - which is why we want him so badly

but a rapist is a rapist. I wonder if there are any repercussions with women’s groups.

by ab03 on Sep 2, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

xx

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

how decent are you talking here?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

My pie chart would go something like this

55% – Smoak
30% – Beavan
15% – Lueke

There’s actually like a .00001% for Lawson, but I’ve rounded.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahhh ok

i feel etter thought you were saying you thought smoak would bomb

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm way down on him right now, admittedly

He would have been at like 90% if you asked me the same question beginning of the season.

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

klaw on the mariners/rangers
Tommy (Philly)
Keith, your thoughts on the Mariners/Rangers debacle regarding Josh Lueke? If the Rangers withheld information then that is wrong but to me I can’t understand for the life of me how the Mariners can pass the blame on this one. Background checks are a normal part of business, every business I know (mine included) performs them. And we aren’t hiring high-profile athletes whose information is readily available on the net. If I was Jack Zduriencik I would be embarassed for not doing my due diligence, especially considering he has admitted that they knew the kid did have a criminal record. How do you not do your homework on your biggest deal of the year?


Klaw (1:11 PM)
How did the Rangers withhold information? It was public record – I found it on page one of a Google search.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

This is becoming comical

Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010

by RangersSD on Sep 2, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

#6Orgs don't google.

Period.

We don’t even own a computer.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Sep 2, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

They probably used Bing

That shit won’t show you anything that Google puts at the top.

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by bking on Sep 2, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what's ridiculous about this, the Mariners FO was trumpeted as the king of technology and internet friendliness

And now they act like a simple Google search was something unreasonable to do.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

Even assuming all JD told him was “small debacle, acquittal”

Don’t you THEN at least google him? I guess I understand not initially googling every player you acquire, but after finding about the charge?

by Jobu. on Sep 2, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

JD had no duty to tell them “bee tee dub, here’s the full 411 on what went down,” but if you’re Dr Z and you know there’s some semblance of a potential issue out there and you STILL don’t Google him? No offense, but I’m not sure you have the judgment to be in charge of a Major League Baseball team.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, totally reasonable to just take JD's word for it.

He’s only in the business of lying and double-dealing to try to take advantage of your competition.

I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.

by Aquaman, Esq. on Sep 2, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD probably told him "I will only tell you the full story if you add Felix Hernandez and your wife's car to the deal, otherwise I will only summarize it as an acquittal"

So Jack Z took the cheaper price.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't it be the responsibility of scouts that cover a league

(in the case the Cal League last year) to keep thier org informed all news of ALL players in the league? Especially of something of this type?

by RangerMad on Sep 2, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would think

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can think of someone in the Seattle org who covered Leuke in the Cal League.

His name is Rick Adair.

Seattle looks dumb in direct proportion to their complaining about this player’s past. I mean, wowzers.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Sep 2, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

To me, the presence of Adair seems to be the linchpin in assigning blame to Jack Z

There are three possible scenarios as to what happened with Adair:

1) They never asked Adair about Lueke – if this is what transpired, it’s an indictment on Jack Z’s competence.

2) They asked Adair and he lied – I cannot imagine that he would do this, given the ease of finding out the story with a Google search.

3) They asked Adair, he explained, and they traded for him anyway – this seems most likely. And if this is what happened, Jack Z either lied or omitted the details when talking to Chuck Armstrong or Armstrong is lying. Neither is good for the Mariners.

No matter how you slice this, despite Z’s efforts to blame the Rangers, the Mariners FO looks incompetent or dishonest. Neither is good.

THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.

"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will

by WestTxAg06 on Sep 2, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus...

5) JD is on the record saying Texas is willing to do a separate deal to reacquire the player.

Crazy.

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Sep 2, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can the Mariners not know????

When I’m playing play MLB 2K12, Lueke disappears into the clubhouse Kevin Elster-style with a leggy brunette during the 7th inning stretch.

by sam in so cal on Sep 2, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Random question...

Has Feliz ever hit 100 on the Arlington gun? I was just wondering after the game last night with the probably juiced gun. Also, can batters foul off pitches that are 101, 102? That doesn’t seem possible to me, but I"m a girl who NEVER PLAYED THE GAME!

by Melanie on Sep 2, 2010 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

isnt TBIA gun supposed to be always slow?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Sep 2, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I’ve heard it’s slow, and I’ve heard it’s the most accurate.

by Melanie on Sep 2, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good hitters can foul those off if they get a few chances to time the pitch

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 2, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That makes sense

I guess location is a big part of it, too, and he didn’t seem to have the badass tailing action last night.

by Melanie on Sep 2, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure about 100

but I know he’s hit 99 several times. I want to say I’ve seen him hit 100 on the RBiA gun, but I can’t remember.

"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Sep 2, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool

I don’t at all doubt he can hit 100 and I know he’s done it. I was just wondering if he ever hit it at home since that gun is supposed to be the slowest.

by Melanie on Sep 2, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ranging to Target Field

You won’t see me on tv unless maybe Hambone hits the front row of the Powerball Pavilion in right center. Hope the Rangers give me enough to cheer about to test the legendary politeness of Minnesotans. Wish the Twins colors weren’t also blue, red, white. Bonus: 20+ degrees heat relief vs. Austin.

by BruceChen on Sep 2, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

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