A.L. West Standings
by Adam J. Morris on Sep 2, 2010 11:00 AM CDT
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The Rangers playoff spot is still in doubt?!
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Everything's going to go wrong!
Hold on to your butts, it’s going to be a wild ride to the finish!
by ab03 on Sep 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
still more interesting than
the Cowgirls.
Sir Warwick Harrow: I know him, and I think he's a psychotic lowlife.
Mal: And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community.
thank the lord
"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar
by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, I just wanted a picture of Andy Dick.
And if I had to suffer through seeing this, so does everyone else.
I'm still waiting for 10 up and 20 over
that would make this season awesomest ever
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
yay!
i will concede that the race is now over.
"Please don't hand Jim Knox your children."
- Josh Lewin
Lueke
Somebody mentioned this in the AM thread that JD had offered to take back Lueke if the Mariners had a problem with it but I didn’t realize this nuance:
But Daniels said the Mariners could have sent Lueke back. “We offered several times to reacquire Lueke in a separate transaction — an offer originally made the same night the deal was announced,” he said in an e-mail to The Times. “That offer stands.”
This is actually kind of funny. Sounds like Mariners President Jack Armstrong wanted Lueke gone and Dr. Z may have fibbed a bit about whether they could return him. Or both the M’s guys are lying to the public and really everybody wanted Lueke. Either way, I think this is less a story about the incompetent M’s FO not knowing about Lueke’s past and more about the M’s trying to save face with their women’s groups by pleading ignorance. And now it seems that they have been caught in a lie. Wonder if there will be any repercussions.
I do think it is interesting that JD tried to reacquire Lueke in a separate transaction (and is still trying to reacquire him). Sounds like both org’s are really high on him – which JD stated multiple times after the trade.
AM thread is too long
glad you posted it here – I guess I’ll go back over there and see what is said.
I just wish I could know how the five other better organizations would have handled this…
Go Rice Owls!
What I don't get
Would it have been really that bad for the M’s to say, “We know about his troubled past but we think he’s learned his lesson and want to give him a second chance?”
I’m thinking that Armstrong really must not have known about this and that’s why the fallout occurred the way it did. Otherwise, this is really a stupid way to handle it, involving way too many complicated lies.
this
it really just looks like someone is trying to cover their ass (so to speak) on this.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Well I see it happening like this
Trade made → President reads about rape story → President asks Z why they traded for a rapist → Z says we didn’t know, acquittal, bullshitbullshitbullshit (lying)
"That dead-gum Jon Daniels tricked me, ya see?"
“#6orgs don’t trade for rapists!”
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Sep 2, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The problem is the Rangers are the #5 org
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Even better, #4!
At the time, I felt like that might be overrating the Rangers (less than they did the Mariners), but I currently feel they have to be at least #4.
Why would they make that offer the night the deal was announced?
Did Seattle not find out until the last minute or something?
This is how I like to think it went down
JD – So thanks for the deal, hope you guys enjoy the prospects.
Z – Thanks, good luck with Lee.
JD – well, now that it is official, I guess we should tell you – one of your guys is a rapist.
Z- Uhh…
JD – tell you what, we’ll take that rapist off your hands for you, let you save some face
Z- Uhh…
JD – how about Arias – we just joke he’s a cockroach since he doesn’t get the hint and retire, he isn’t actually really one morally…
Z – Uhh…
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Sep 2, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
And that's why you don't make trades with teams higher than you on the org rankings!
Sorry, Seattle, but you’ve still got 24 other teams you can deal with.
I bet Armstrong found out late
demanded Dr. Z exchange the prospect. Dr. Z (knowing all about Lueke) make a half assed attempt to exchange out Lueke. JD offers some other guys that are less appealing. Dr. Z says JD was being a dick or tells Armstrong the truth that Lueke is good and nobody else would be better so they let the deal stand and call JD a dick.
This situation does not look good for Z
He had multiple avenues to avoid the situation he’s in, but he chose talent over character.
Not that I blame him, I just think he would have been much better off saying they’d looked into the story and don’t think Leuke is a threat to repeat—0-tolerance.\
I bet JD would still take back Leuke—that guy is going to be good.
it'd be awesome
if we take back lueke and he turns out to be a future all star……that’d show the Mariners.
Riveting!!
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
It's annoying
I was convinced at the beginning of the season that the Angels were a 90 loss team. And they have been playing like they are (or worse) since July. But their June was just so good that it ruins their chances at only getting 72 wins. As bad as they are, I doubt they go 7-21 from here on out.
Oh well, I guess it means a slightly worse draft pick for them. And actually, given that they’ll probably go after Crawford hard, I suppose I want the Angels to finish with one of the 15 best records in the league so that they lose their first rounder…
Go Rice Owls!
We don't want them to be epically bad.
We want the Angels to become mired in mediocrity like the Rangers were for the last decade.
75-85 wins a year. Never a really high draft pick. Always thinking they’re 1 old player away from fixing things… That way we can feed off of them for the next 5 years and see more playoff baseball.
by Trickman on Sep 2, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
and the fun thing
is that that team is really structured to get stuck in a decade of mediocrity. Not really Rangers-like, since their payroll will always be decent, but maybe more Mets-like.
They’ll probably always be considered a contender by the media, but their core is getting older (Torii Hunter will be 35 next year and cost $18 million in ‘11 and ’12; Abreu will probably be there in ’11 and ’12 for $9 million, and he’s old). Santana and Weaver are under control through 2013, but Santana isn’t actually good and he’s expensive. They owe an awful Scott Kazmir $12 million next year.
They’re going to be the Mets. And signing Carl Crawford is perfect for that meme – it will be like the Carlos Beltran signing. (Poor Beltran – talk about the sure way of sending a HOF career into irrelevance, sign with the lesser NY club)
Go Rice Owls!
I do think their prospects are better than the Mets just because they don't have Omar Minaya in charge.
I can absolutely see them giving too much to the wrong players in order to cling on to chances and resisting ever actually rebuilding, though.
Can we send them Josey's "treadmill of mediocrity"?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Related to standings
Boston is 8 games back of the division lead and 7 games back of the WC. I guess it really doesn’t affect how they play the rest of their games but they did just announce that Pedroia is done for the season and having surgery.
So, you have to think Boston knows they’re done – and they could catch 1 of 2 teams to get in.
Was there really ever a good reason to think that the Rangers with a similar lead this late into the season were in jeopardy?
Well
I don’t think the Red Sox are “done” the way that the A’s are. The Red Sox have, I think, 7 games left against the Yankees (and the Yankees also have something like 7 against the Rays). It is conceivable (albeit unprecidented) that the Yankees fall apart.
I kind of altered Jeff Sullivan’s 10% worse WP criteria from the other day to ask “how well would a team have to play to catch up if the team ahead played .500 ball?” Well, the Red Sox would probably have to play .750 ball or so to catch up to the Yankees. But since they’re not independent events (Red Sox playing better over that stretch likely means Yanks play worse), it is possible. The Red Sox, even beat up as tehy are, are capable (albeit unlikely) of going 22-7 over their remaining schedule.
Whereas there is no way a sub-500 A’s team goes 22-8 over their remaining 30 games
Go Rice Owls!
since
it’s unprecidented and, to me, highly unlikely that the Yankees fall apart, can we wish a horrible woodworking accident on half the team?
"If Nolan Ryan hadn't been born, Larry McMurtry would have made him up."
----Kevin Sherrington of the Dallas Morning News to Bud Selig.
Free Agents
We have a decent number of Type A/B FA’s that we can turn into draft picks (potentially).
Type A
Vlad (opt out)
Darren Oliver (opt out)
Fx2
Cliff Lee
Type B
Molina
Barely missing the cut (somehow) is Rich Harden. Maybe a few good RP appearances might get him in there.
I'm not sure DO would opt out at this point.
I’d like Vlad is more likely, but I could see him staying in Tex.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
ok
so then the question is do we exercise it. I guess we might since we like the veterans in the bullpen.
I think so, 95% chance
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
If he gets into 4 more games, the option automatically gets picked up per his contract
I’d say the only possibility that he is not on the team next year would be
a) he suffers an injury which causes him to miss the rest of the season (ducks)
b) he gets traded
My guess
We’ll get picks for Lee, Fx2 (he won’t accept arbitration, because he’ll want a closing job somewhere) and Molina.
I guess Vlad could end up leaving if some team decides to overpay for him (a possibility).
Lee will go to a top club, so he’ll result in a 1st rounder (supp).
Fx2 will probably go to a lesser club (someone who would want him as closer and wouldn’t care about losing a 2nd round pick), so he’ll result in a 2nd rounder (supp)
Molina will sign somewhere as a type B, so that’ll be a crappy supp pick.
Overall, that will be 2 1sts, 3 supps, and 2 2nds in a deep draft.
Go Rice Owls!
Molina
I would have thought there would be no way we offer him arb because he would just accept but now it seems like both that he wont’ accept and even if he did, it wouldn’t be terrible.
if he is a type A, then he would almost definitely accept
but who knows, I still hold that catchers are strange beasts, and teams may moneywhip a guy like Molina, not caring about picks, just because catchers are weird.
Given that the club has no options at catcher… if he accepted I wouldn’t be that upset. There aer better ways to spend that money, but the team needs a catcher not named Teagarden…
Go Rice Owls!
Are there any interesting catchers out there?
Trade or FA pickup, a solid catcher would be a very nice thing to add in the offseason.
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Sep 2, 2010 1:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He's going to be a year older
I imagine he’ll be downright terrible next year (I’m assuming he was merely terrible this year).
Moreland on the Ticket @ 1:50
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
And we have the best lawsuit ever
Dallas Observer via Deadspin via Kinslerhomer tweet
Some excerpts:
Anthony melt my Popsicle. Anthony gave me a STD in 2001. Carmelo Anthony worked as a undercover narcotic cop in Baltimore and was snitchin.
Carmelo Anthony cheated on his wife LaLa with Dwyane Wade’s ex-wife who gave Anthony fellatio in I-95 traffic.
Mark Cuban stole my credit cards and tried to buy the Texas Rangers with my money. Mark Cuban assaulted me serving ice cream at Dairy Queen.
Nolan Ryan threw 100 mph fastballs at my head and he and Robin Ventura beat me up at the Church of Jesus Christ.
Jerry Buss accused me of raping him and Kobe Bryant in Boulder at JonBenet Ramsey’s house. Jerry Buss sold me Jeannie Buss on eBay and I was promised a Lakers janitor job when I get out of prison for less than minimum wage.
When I listen to ESPN Radio I get goosebumps and shivers because of the fear defendants caused me.
I think I work with this guy...
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
this guy is a serial pro se defendant
I believe that he’s been barred from filing his petitions in some jurisdictions because of the volume of filings (and general craziness).
by Mike the Grate on Sep 2, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I get for being a corporate finance attorney.
All the Civ Pro has leaked out of my brain.
by Mike the Grate on Sep 2, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait
Are you telling me that you don’t use the principles of Pennoyer v. Neff on a daily basis?
Three years wasted!
I'm not really sure what cases are anymore.
I do deals. :)
by Mike the Grate on Sep 2, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel dirty saying this.
Go Yankees! Magic number could be 20 by the time I leave work!
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
What?
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Sep 2, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I've been trying to convince my family of the magic of cumin. They won't listen to me. It makes almost everything better.- PhilKid3, 8/16/2010.
by Aquaman, Esq. on Sep 2, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Suzuki HBP, damn
Close it out, already!
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
hero
"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar
by TagDon'tTweet on Sep 2, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
watch him as he goes
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010
Especially crazy when you consider the 2009 Rangers through September 1st
2009 Rangers 74-58 /// 4.5 games back
2010 Rangers 75-58 /// 10 games up
And unlike 1996
The teams behind us are nowhere near good enough to run us down. I went a bought a bottle of champage and I’m just waiting until this thing hits zero. It’s going to taste good.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Good idea...
I should do that. Take it with me to watch the Rangers clinch in Oakland.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to give myself a champagne bath if they win the World Series.
Probably get as many of the people out here jumping the Rangers bandwagon as I can to participate and put it on YouTube.
So many ridiculous options that I've yet to ponder....
although a champagne hot tub sounds pretty damn phenomenal.
by lost in space on Sep 2, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think champagne + heat is good for the carbonation
but you could probably get away with a room temperature champagne bath
Go Rice Owls!
If it can't be at home then I really
do hope it’s somewhere the LSB fans can see it.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
It's looking more and more like it will be Robbie...
in Seattle. As long as it doesn’t happen in the Angels series sandwiched between us, I’ll be extra happy.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I've started assuming it will be that series or you.
They’d struggled so much just to get to 9.5 a couple times, the 11-13 game lead I’d need to have a chance to see it seemed impossible.
Today makes me feel better (not meant to be at your expense).
Also...
I’m thinking after that sweep in New York, the A’s are in for a tail spin where as now that the Rangers are getting a little bit healthier, they might start to pull away even more by the time the Seattle series rolls around.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
And, yeah, I can be happy with any outcome but Anaheim.
Arlington, it’s at home. Seattle, Kevinkinsler and I get to see it. Oakland, you and Rockso. Anaheim just sucks except for the clinching part.
I think if it gets down to 1...
during the Anaheim series, I might just drive down there.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, I didn't realize just how late in the season '96's lead was 9.
They never got to 10, but if we lose a game in the standings between now and Sept. 11th, we’ll be in no better position than they were.
But, yes, the A’s don’t seem to have the talent the Mariners did.
Yeah...
That 1996 team was nearly the footnote that the 1995 Angels are now.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember how they went to Seattle late in the season and got swept
and I really started to think that it was going to happen again. The Rangers had teased me all season and were about to break my heart again. I would rather do it this way!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Yeah...
I also hope the Rangers clinch with a win. It was kind of anti-climatic in ’96 & ’98 when they clinched on days they lost but the second place team lost also.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
There was that great coverage
the night they did in 1996. I can still see the late great Johnny Oates trying to do a clubhouse interview while Mark McLemore sprayed him with champagne and kept saying “Johnny is too dry!!”
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Replace Johnny with Ron Washington...
and McLemore with Elvis and that’s what I’m imagining right now.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Elvis is barely old enough to drink!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I so remember that
:D
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Here's TBS's 2010 Post Season...
anthem.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/hotcorner/index.jsp
:( I don’t want to associate the Rangers playoff run with this song.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 6:26 PM CDT reply actions
Although...
There is a sample of Josh Lewin in there.
by ghostofErikThompson on Sep 2, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Kid Rock sucks
Genesis 1: 3-4 (Rangers Edition): And JD said "Let there be Lee," and there was Lee. And JD saw the Lee, that it was good: and JD divided the Rangers from the Angels. by Aquaman56
That's because you weigh about a buck twenty five...
…and the wind ends up blowing you down the road faster than Bengie can run. AJM on Aug 30, 2010
It's true (he's awful)
But it’s slightly better than that crap that FSSW has been playing for Ranger promos
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