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David Murphy with "mild groin strain"

ARLINGTON TX - SEPTEMBER 29:  A general view of play between the Seattle Mariners and the Texas Rangers on September 29 2010 in Arlington Texas.  (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

David Murphy's MRI apparently indicated that he has a "mild groin strain," and is day-to-day.

At this point, I'm guessing Murphy doesn't play again until the playoffs, other than maybe a few innings on Sunday to shake off some rust if the medical staff feels he's all the way back.

The injuries to Murphy and Josh Hamilton, though, do lead to a question about the outfield alignment, and could lead to Julio Borbon being forced into full-time action, after the assumption up to this point having been that Borbon's playing time in the playoffs would be limited.

Hamilton, of course, had been playing a lot of centerfield in the second half of the season, and was playing center when he collided with the wall and was put on the shelf. 

Murphy is a corner outfielder who can play some center in a pinch, but really isn't equipped to handle centerfield.

There was some thought that if Hamilton was limited by his injury, Murphy could play center some in the ALDS.  But if Murphy is nursing a groin injury, and Hamilton isn't 100%, then the Rangers' only centerfield option ends up being Borbon.

Too early to say at this point, but this is a situation that bears watching as next week rolls around...

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I feel there's a Wily Taveras mention coming up somewhere soon.

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by Keynes on Sep 30, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you have to do this if Murphy isn't available

My main concern would be what to do if Borbon got injured during the series. What are the rules again on players getting injured during a series? Either way, you’d need to do something for the game he got injured and I really don’t want to see Hamilton anywhere near CF.

I do think his getting injured in CF is a little fluky as I don’t really see why he should be getting injured so much more there than in LF but it does keep happening.

by ab03 on Sep 30, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

if someone gets injured during a series he can be replaced with a player who plays the same postions..the player who got hurt is not eligible for the next series.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Sep 30, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

with anyone in the org?

They have to be on the 40, right?

by ab03 on Sep 30, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I am 99% sure.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Sep 30, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm good with rolling with Jules.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Sep 30, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I wasn't really following it

but what happened with endy chavez? Was he just terrible in the minors? Did he get injured again?

by ab03 on Sep 30, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

injured again.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

by matthewbschultz83 on Sep 30, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

QUICK! Somebody remove all the sharp objects

from JWs kitchen.

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by Jose Cardenal on Sep 30, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't

"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar

by chrisR on Sep 30, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Day-to-day is better than the alternative

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Sep 30, 2010 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Professor with the humor
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by RangersSD on Sep 30, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

guys perhaps better suited to part time roles

are going to have to produce if the Rangers are to win. C, 1B, and in the outfield, and the bottom of the lineup will continue to be dicey at best.

When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.

by t ball on Sep 30, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

ditto

or Paul O’Neill

When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.

by t ball on Sep 30, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

I’m just thinking of how popular O’Neill and Brosius were with Yankees fans because of some big postseason performances. Murphy is having the kind of year Brosius had in ‘98 in some ways. I’d love for him to have that kind of postseason.

When you're drowning, you don't say 'I would be incredibly pleased if someone would have the foresight to notice me drowning and come and help me,' you just scream.

by t ball on Sep 30, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Billy Hatcher!!

The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.

Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT

by Drew062682 on Sep 30, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

See Below you...

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

by matthewbschultz83 on Sep 30, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron Boone.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 30, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Billy Hatcher

Hit .750 in the 90 World Series vs. the A’s

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

by matthewbschultz83 on Sep 30, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dang

Nice call sir. Didn’t mean to try to steal your thunder….didn’t see you until after I hit it.

The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.

Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT

by Drew062682 on Sep 30, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate you

Not really. Yes I do.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

by matthewbschultz83 on Sep 30, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

My brother was a die hard Eric Davis fan

So we were dialed into that World Series more so than most.

The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.

Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT

by Drew062682 on Sep 30, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was my first World Series

Where I really had sport consciousness. I had just turned 7. I remember not understanding why pitchers got to bat in the World Series.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

by matthewbschultz83 on Sep 30, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's fun

I was 8. Hatcher was sick though. The only thing similar that my blurred young memory recalls is Brian Downing in ’91 for the first couple of weeks or so.

The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.

Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT

by Drew062682 on Sep 30, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know I'm in the minority here but in the play-offs I'm rolling with my best defensive team and that means Borbon in CF.

"Borbon in CF gives us a much better fielding outfield in both CF and LF. It keeps Josh out of CF, which alone would make it better for Borbon to be out there."-- DD Aug. 2

by diamond_dave on Sep 30, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm rolling with the best team

and that means a Murphy/Hamilton/Cruz OF if all are healthy.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Sep 30, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

but health seems to be an issue, and if Hamilton isn’t in CF, I want Borbon there. Murphy is not a CF and shouldn’t be one in the playoffs.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Sep 30, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm rolling with the best team considering all situations. (Hamilton, Borbon, Cruz)

1) Keeping Hamilton healthy.
2) Let me repeat #1, most importantly.
3) Defense in CF.
4) Situational hitting.
5) Defense in LF.

"Borbon in CF gives us a much better fielding outfield in both CF and LF. It keeps Josh out of CF, which alone would make it better for Borbon to be out there."-- DD Aug. 2

by diamond_dave on Sep 30, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

6) Bench Bat

or is that included under the umbrella of #4?

I count myself as an LSBer and if I need to hate myself more than I already do, I need to be aware of why. ~ Evan Grant

by Jose Cardenal on Sep 30, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That isn't the best team

considering it’s a short season now, I play the best players, and sit the guys who aren’t so good, like Borbon.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Sep 30, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kenny Powers

Taint Tattoo should be the good luck charm.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

by matthewbschultz83 on Sep 30, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

My inner Dirkatron says...

Penis.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Sep 30, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe they are saving it for October

let’s hope

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Sep 30, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since the Rangers medical staff

seems to downplay injury timelines, Murphy won’t be available for the playoffs.

/ducks

by RangerMad on Sep 30, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

/standing proud

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio," Washington said. - After Borbon dropped a fly ball with one out in 9th of the AL West clinching game against Oakland As. 09/25/10

"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.

by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 30, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why in the hell would you take Josh out of CF?

You can flank him with Frenchy & Cruz and be good defensively and much better offensively.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 30, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Certainly - that is the key, but he scares me out there, badly.

"Borbon in CF gives us a much better fielding outfield in both CF and LF. It keeps Josh out of CF, which alone would make it better for Borbon to be out there."-- DD Aug. 2

by diamond_dave on Sep 30, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

For game 1

Then suspended for the rest of the playoffs

The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.

Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT

by Drew062682 on Sep 30, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking about that

An epidural (which is what Josh got for his ribs) is typically an opioid delivered directly into the spinal cord. I wonder if since it’s a local injection than it isn’t an issue in terms of addiction.

Anyone out there with a more advanced medical knowledge got an answer?

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by Desert Ranger on Sep 30, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may have answered my own question

There is apparently another type of epidural injection with a local anaesthetic and corticosteroid. Perhaps that’s what Josh got.

"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM

by Desert Ranger on Sep 30, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He got a nerve block

Its an injection of local anesthetic at the nerve. Deadens the whole area. I had a nerve block in my leg for one of my knee operations. A tiny little injection near the hip, and my whole leg was numb for 24 hours. It was weird.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio," Washington said. - After Borbon dropped a fly ball with one out in 9th of the AL West clinching game against Oakland As. 09/25/10

"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.

by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 30, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool, thanks

The reports said “epidural nerve block injection”. I wonder if they just threw epidural in there for the hell of it cause that would indicate the injection was in the spine.

"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM

by Desert Ranger on Sep 30, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm. More reading.

http://www.treatingpain.com/diagnosis-and-treatments/epidural-nerve-block.html

Could be the injection was for back pain. They mentioned a few times that a lot of his discomfort was because his back was in spasm. It sounds like the kind of epidural in the article above provides longer lasting relief than the nerve block I got. And if the effects spread out from the spine a bit, then it could also relieve any pain from the fractures themselves.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio," Washington said. - After Borbon dropped a fly ball with one out in 9th of the AL West clinching game against Oakland As. 09/25/10

"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.

by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 30, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not vs righties

vs righties, with no Murph, you’re best with Julio in CF

by octoberty on Sep 30, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bullshit.

Tampa routinely took extra bases this year v Judy and they’ll do it again.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 30, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

So wrong!

You excpect an unhealthy Josh Hamilton, who can run into walls and aggravate his knees on turf from backing up fielders in left and right field, to stay healthy. The best outfield possible defensively is Hamilton in left, Borbon in center and Nellie in right. The thing that gets Borbon in trouble is not hitting the cutoff man quickly, and with a little mental sharpness on his part he can do that.

by Philar on Sep 30, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't there walls in LF ? Isn't there turf in LF as well?

Borbon has a terrible arm, routinely throws to the wrong base and isn’t very smart.

You are asking too much of your offense if you put three Black Holes like Judy, Tiny E and Treanor/Molina in it.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 30, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching balls fly past David Murphy's outstretched glove...

the last time he was in center reminded me of watching Roy Williams (the safety) running, in futile fashion, 10 yards behind the receiver to the end zone on another blown pass coverage. It’s something I don’t want to see.

Center is a more physically demanding position, I don’t see why you’d want Josh there with questionable health.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Sep 30, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

start Borbon and if we need offense later in the game put Murph in and move Josh to center. I see no other way.

by shock00 on Sep 30, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would think...

you’d possibly pinch hit Murphy for catcher or Frenchy for Borbon, necessitating a move. But I say go with the best defensive alignment without unreasonably hindering the offense.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Sep 30, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree

and if that means starting Borbon and his noodle arm then thats what you have to do.

by shock00 on Sep 30, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josh will have had a month off

and there are plenty of off-days in post-season.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"The Influence continues." Josey Wales (1/18/10)

by Josey Wales on Sep 30, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hamilton doesn't run into those walls.

Borbon is batting .341 last 30, .281 on season and .290 lifetime, he isn’t a black hole and I would much rather have Borbon up in a key situation than say MY.

"Borbon in CF gives us a much better fielding outfield in both CF and LF. It keeps Josh out of CF, which alone would make it better for Borbon to be out there."-- DD Aug. 2

by diamond_dave on Sep 30, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drinking Early?

I was ok until

I would much rather have Borbon up in a key situation than say MY.

I count myself as an LSBer and if I need to hate myself more than I already do, I need to be aware of why. ~ Evan Grant

by Jose Cardenal on Sep 30, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

No contest actually! MY sets the bar pretty low in situational or clutch hitting.

RISP .286 .270
GIDP 6% 16%
Adv 3B 71% 50%
Adv 2B 74% 51%
Clutch +.19 – 1.09
GIDP 6% 16%

Borbon is better in every category of situational or clutch hitting. So yes I would rather have Borbon up there in those situations. No drinks for me.

"Borbon in CF gives us a much better fielding outfield in both CF and LF. It keeps Josh out of CF, which alone would make it better for Borbon to be out there."-- DD Aug. 2

by diamond_dave on Sep 30, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

what? isnt the trop astro-grass?

its not the old carpet-turf…… i i think thats blown wayyyyyyy out of proportion.. i played on the astro-grass for years and its better than grass imo. predictable too.

by I am Neftali Feliz on Sep 30, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus you can play 9 innings on it then get stoned to the bejeezus on it

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by bking on Sep 30, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Maury B

BREAKING: MLB, MLBPA Announce Changes to Salary Arbitration and Free Agency Calendar http://ow.ly/2MwCp

by octoberty on Sep 30, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I hate how he puts BREAKING on his posts

He’s not breaking any news — he’s just passing on an MLB announcement.

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by Dirk Diggler on Sep 30, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

NYY or Rays

Lets hope they are tied going into Sunday. If so, it couls be Pettite or Garza in game 1.

NY
Th: off
F: Pettitte
Sat: Burnett
Sun: CC

Rays:
Th: Garza
F: Shields
Sat: Davis
Sun: Price

by RangerMad on Sep 30, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know

If I were them I’d rather sacrifice the division championship and start my #1 in the playoffs, especially best of 5 in the first round. AL East crown doesn’t matter, advancing in the playoffs does.

"Embarrassing admission: I have never, ever, ever been able to see a guy's aura. That's right. I...am an aura-blind American." -Junior, FJM

by Desert Ranger on Sep 30, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with ya

there’s no way they are going to not have their # 1 starter opening the playoffs.

by shock00 on Sep 30, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

Both teams list Sunday’s starter as TBA. Is HFA important enough that you would waste your #1 starter? If they pitch on Sunday, they would be on 3 days rest to even pitch in Game 2 of the ALDS.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio," Washington said. - After Borbon dropped a fly ball with one out in 9th of the AL West clinching game against Oakland As. 09/25/10

"If I had caught it, the force would have taken me through the fence." -- Rockies outfielder Ryan Spilborghs about a Nelson Cruz line drive.

by NorCalRangersFan on Sep 30, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I leave the specifics to the more stat oriented guys in here

But the short answer is: Very little

The scouting report on Salty is that he’s a pampered, curly-haired motherfuck who didn’t earn his stripes. He has trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher, claims to be a switch-hitter and is piss-poor in the clutch.

Have fun!
by oc on Jul 31, 2010 4:17 PM CDT

by Drew062682 on Sep 30, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just listened to that on radio and said since wild card team with HFA has a losing record in both rounds prior to Series.

"Borbon in CF gives us a much better fielding outfield in both CF and LF. It keeps Josh out of CF, which alone would make it better for Borbon to be out there."-- DD Aug. 2

by diamond_dave on Sep 30, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean Wednesday/Thursday?

Day off Friday for travel…

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by TooLegitToQuit on Sep 30, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oooops.

heh.

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by TooLegitToQuit on Sep 30, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I for one, want no part of Murphy in CF

I’d much rather play Borbon in CF even if there was no injury. The only other option is Hamilton imo which is ideal against a lefty where we could play Frenchy

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Sep 30, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

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