Case IN point against Ron Washington for Manager of the Year
by Eric Prince on Sep 7, 2010 9:05 PM CDT
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It seems every game of late we have seen people complaining about the job Ron is doing, and tonight, I'd just like to point two things out that should show why he does not deserve the Manager of the Year award.
Bottom 5th, 2-2 ball game. Two on in scoring position, one out, Jose Bautista up to the plate. Scott Feldman stays in the game, gives up a 2 RBI double.
Feldman intentionally walks Vernon Wells.
Michael Kirkman comes in and pitches pretty darn well.
So what's the problem?
Two innings later, Wash goes to Darren O'Day. If he thought he may have gone to O'Day, why not have him ready and go to him when Bautista is up to bat?
Second point. Top 7, two on no one out, down 5-2, Matt Treanor would be batting. But, lo and behold, Christian Guzman gets up and pinch hits for Treanor, presumably to avoid the DP. Guzman proceeds to hit into a DP, runner moves to third.
If anyone still thinks Wash can get Manager of the Year, please give me a good reason as to why. I really have no clue why anyone would think that at this point, but I could be very very wrong.
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I couldn't believe my eyes
when Guzman came up for Treanor.
The “gut” made him do it.
I was a Ranger fan when being a Rangers fan wasn't cool.
Wash could get manager of the year because of the way the team's record has improved this season.
For some reason, that’s how managers are judged, not by their decision-making skills and aptitude for their job, but by a factor they often have very little to do with.
That’s why Manager of the Year is a fucking meaningless award, like the Gold Gloves or the Latin Grammys.
I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM
Well, their place in the standings has.
Probably should’ve wrote that instead of record.
I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM
by LSJ on Sep 7, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, if you look at this team vs last years team
most of the changes are due to the long predicted collapse of the Angels.
A comparison of the 2 teams:
2010 WPct 54.3% RS/G 4,82 RA/G 4.29
2009 Wpct 53.7% RS/G 4,84 RA/G 4,57
Essentially the only difference is the .3 per game difference in Runs Allowed per game.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
Because they're in first place,
while dealing with injuries to Cruz and Kinsler, 2 or their 3 best hitters. Their opening day starter was jettisoned to the bullpen. They’ve been playing most of the year with ownership in limbo. The bullpen management has been fine most of the year(Oh yeah, Fx2 is out). The big FA acquisition was a bigger bust than Feldman. Thru it all, they are a first place club.
Second guessing is a lot easier than saying, “Hey, we won last nite and the bullpen management in innings 6-9 really did the trick”
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
while through it all we are in 1st place,
it is only because of a monster june, a failing Angels team, and a surprise find in colbyashi. am i missing anything else?
Hamilton's batshit insane season.
I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM
by LSJ on Sep 7, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, you can't dismiss an entire month. It's 1/6 of the year.
It counts just as much as a bad month.
Do you think if Feldman got out of the inning, or Guzman came thru with a hit, you would’ve written this post tonite?
Do you think if watched any other team as much as the Rangers, you’d see decisions backfire on their managers?
'Waiting for a girl and she gets me into fights
Waiting for a girl we get drunk on Friday night'
you absolutely can...
when that month was built on an interleague schedule that was more favorable to the Rangers than any other team – dismiss games against NL teams that are 80 games below .500, and the Rangers are a .500 team
no, don’t dismiss it because it was after May and before July – but DO look at what impact playing the softest interleague schedule had on an otherwise very average team.
Katy Feeney has a more legitimate claim to this team’s success than Ron Washington.
this team is 21-30 against winning teams, so it helps tremendously when you get an extra 18 games against teams with losing records.
how can you fail to weigh the benefit of this when assessing this team over the course of the season?
by sam in so cal on Sep 8, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally
I think this team is roughly the same as last year’s team. The major difference being the long anticipated implosion of the Angels.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
How the Rangers finish the season
will determine how well Wash does in the MOY voting. Right now it is probably Girardi’s to lose.
I don't give a fuck who wins...
…the Cy Young Award
…MVP
…Rookie of the Year
…Executive of the Year
…Rolaids Fireman Award (do they have that anymore?)
…Manager of the Year
…Comeback Player of the Year.
I don’t care. Don’t care. Don’t fucking care.
just the World Series right?
that I can completely agree with, I just got hacked off by a buddy of mine saying Wash should be Manager of the year, so I posted this rant.
Sorry if it’s a beat down to anyone, it’s starting to be one to me.
It's Case IN point, not case AND point
As in, you are concluding your case via one exceptionally strong point.
Saying case and point is pretty much a mute point, like axing a question at the liberry.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Sep 7, 2010 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You could have a separate case and a separate point, I suppose.
That would be an awkward conversation.
by Black Francis on Sep 8, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He may have meant "library" and "asking", too.
by Black Francis on Sep 10, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
why don't you stick to bitching about unions
retard
Toki: Clowns are, statistically, the most hated of all creatures.
Skwisgaar: Statisticallies or not, but, uh, just don'ts likes this guy.
seriously, about that damn part of the thread
did you not read my reply to you? I said unions had their day and may again, but as for me i don’t want to be forced into one.
look, when it comes to baseball I am ignorant (and have admitted it numerous times recently) but I am trying to learn. If you have something constructive for me, please let me know. If not, please just roll your eyes and move on to the next thread, as i apparently wasted your time with this post as you just did with that comment.
you are a serious fucking beating
you post a retarded ass fan post every day… I expect your next one to be something like “we lost this game because the other team scored more than us”….
You seriously remind me of a quote from Idiocracy..
“It says on your chart that you’re fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit’s all retarded.”
Toki: Clowns are, statistically, the most hated of all creatures.
Skwisgaar: Statisticallies or not, but, uh, just don'ts likes this guy.
Nice attempt at doing hate rapings.
Unfortunately, your avatar is the most “retarded ass” thing I’ve ever seen. You almost had me.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Sep 8, 2010 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
*ahem*
“heat pearings”
I apologize for the momentary lapse in self-censorship.
by Past A Diving Michael Young on Sep 8, 2010 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
*hate?
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Sep 8, 2010 1:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Heat pearings sounds like it would be muggy
What with the bodys touching and trying to hold them down and everything
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Sep 8, 2010 1:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
His avatar rules.
Dr Rockso is awesome.
Toki agrees.
"It’s Advil and beef in the Texas Rangers, you yankee bastard."
- Nolan Ryan
You have four the twelve Recent Fanposts right now
and none of them are particularly thought provoking or well-written.
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Sep 8, 2010 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
to be fair
the 2011 fanpost stimulated a good deal of interesting discussion, and it isn’t as if there are a significant number of high quality (or even baseball related) fanposts being suggested as it is.
Go Rice Owls!
But the 'hey look at me with my baseball points' thing is old
just put it in the threads… if it’s a good topic people will talk about it
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
really
my only problem is that no one cares about Manager of the Year, and no one is arguing for Tommy Hunter to be in the playoff rotation. So these seem like manufactured issues to be arguing about.
As I mentioned in some thread elsewhere, LSB is at low-tide when it comes to really good, deep fanposts. At least Eric Price is actually putting some words down instead of repeating ’75 words 75 words 75 words 75 words 75 words ’ over and over again.
Go Rice Owls!
I can't imagine
who the Rangers would have as the 4th man in the rotation right now if not Hunter. It’s not like Holland, Harden, or Feldman has really done anything to lock it down. Hopefully one of them will do something the rest of the season to take it away from Hunter.
"Look, we're basically on earth to shit and fuck. So unless your job's to help people shit or fuck, it's not that important, so relax."-https://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
so is the, i'm the judge of all fanpost thing
by blueballlefty on Sep 8, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
fair point
but one leads to the other
"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST
by jam0152 on Sep 8, 2010 12:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I was cooking and watching the game
but I am pretty sure I heard Bengie pinch hit for Treanor last night, if so HA
Kind of bizarre
to argue against why someone on your fav team shouldn’t win an award. Shouldn’t you as a fan be supportive?
Troy McClure: "Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy! If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!"
by stupidsexyflanders on Sep 8, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions
I mean I'd be happy for them
personally. They have families and to win an award which is very tough to win would be a source of pride for their kids and spouses and parents. I bet the Ranger players would be happy for him. Why not the fans?
Troy McClure: "Don’t kid yourself, Jimmy! If a cow ever got the chance, he’d eat you and everyone you care about!"
by stupidsexyflanders on Sep 8, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure we'd all be more supportive
If we believed he deserved it.
Personally, I’m not a fan of people getting awards they don’t deserve, even if it is the baseball equivalent of a Latin Grammy.
I don’t always have sex with men…but when I do, I prefer Josh Hamilton. - AJM
by LSJ on Sep 8, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't listen to these assholes Ric.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Cecilio's Guante on Sep 10, 2010 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
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