Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Eden Hazard In London For Medical, According To Reports

Tuesday a.m. Rangers things

ARLINGTON TX - SEPTEMBER 29:  A Texas Rangers AL West champions banner hangs at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington on September 29 2010 in Arlington Texas.  (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

I was rooting for Oregon.  Bah.  They should at least let Oregon and TCU play to see who should be awarded the default national title once Auburn gets its title stripped.

Anthony Andro writes that the Rangers are interested in Jim Thome.

Here's the problem with Thome...if he is going to be the DH against righthanded pitchers, what do you do with Michael Young against righties?  Play him at first base?

Okay...but then, if you do that, when does Mitch Moreland play?

In that scenario, are you just going to plan on having Moreland go to AAA and have Young be the starting first baseman, with Thome the everyday DH?

But if you do that, doesn't it defeat the whole "we want a DH who gives us flexibility" argument?

And when is David Murphy going to play?  You presumably don't want him, Julio Borbon, Moreland, or Thome starting against lefties if they don't have to, but if that's the case, you don't really have any choice, because you don't have any righthanded alternatives.

The other issue is that, if you sign Thome, it means your bench is probably Moreland, Murphy, Blanco, and Treanor.  Both your bench "hitters" are lefthanded, which means it is harder to give Borbon or Thome a day off against a lefty (or if you do, you aren't gaining any sort of platoon advantage).

It also means that the backup centerfielder on the team is Josh Hamilton, I situation I think we've said would be best to avoid, if possible.

I asked on Twitter the other day whether one would trade David Murphy straight up for Marlon Byrd.  Murphy is younger and cheaper than Byrd, and is under team control through 2013, while Byrd is under team control through 2012.  Murphy is also probably the better hitter going forward.  But Byrd is righthanded, and is also a better fit as a defender in centerfield, which means he's probably a better fit on this roster right now than Murphy is.

I have to assume that, if the Rangers sign Thome, another move is coming.  Maybe Moreland being dealt as part of a package for a starting pitcher.  I don't know.

Comment 815 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

More from Lone Star Ball

Thoughts on a 14-3 win

May 2012 by Adam J. Morris - 10 comments

Thoughts on a 6-1 win

May 2012 by Adam J. Morris - 29 comments

Friday a.m. Rangers things

May 2012 by Adam J. Morris - 87 comments

Thoughts on a 4-2 loss

May 2012 by Adam J. Morris - 126 comments

Thoughts on a 5-2 win

May 2012 by Adam J. Morris - 68 comments

Comments

Display:

Beware AJM

For you have angered MikeE bot

"If I have to get cute, it's going to get ugly." - Nibbler

by Panorama on Jan 11, 2011 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

Oregon lost?

I don’t know who they even played..but I was probably rooting for them too. Something about that O..

by Mike E on Jan 11, 2011 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

It hasn't even been 24 hours......

……and the majority of LSB still hate the Newton family.

This message was brought to you by copious amounts of Sierra Nevada and Abita beer.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

What's to like about the Newton family?

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

$5 sucky sucky?

/Cecil Newton

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

$180,000 or Bust

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Where Bust represents Auburn.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

You've got this all wrong.

$180k was the price to go to MSU, which was Newton’s favorite. They got a discount.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

So, I'm still correct.

Hey asked MSU for $180,000 or he was going to go to a different school (Auburn).

Isn’t that what my original “$180,000 or Bust” post represents?

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

hey = he

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

When you're right, you're right.

That’s what I like about you.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

haha.

sarcasm?

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Thome

I don’t really get it either. It’s weird. If I was Michael Young, all of this would make me a little nervous.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Jan 11, 2011 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

yeah

Young shouldn’t even be the slightest bit worried at this point

by Mike E on Jan 11, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

They're not trading Young.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

And there are no less than 16M reasons for that

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Thome

He would make the makeup of the bench and the lineup vs. lefties a little problematic, but he would also make the regular everyday lineup quite improved.

Manny would be a better fit, but either would make the team substantially better b/c the lineup could really use an OBP monster in the middle.

by tricer on Jan 11, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

that’s how I see it. Either bat would be a monster upgrade, but a RH bat just makes more sense for this team.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 11, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Hamilton is the backup centerfielder?

Who is the starter? Borbon? I assumed we were past that. Hamilton would be an excellent backup center fielder..

Yes I would do Murphy for Byrd straight up.

by Mike E on Jan 11, 2011 9:49 AM CST reply actions  

I don't see why Hamilton is bad as a backup CF

I don’t want him playing 50 games out there, but I wouldn’t mind 20-30.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jan 11, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

That NC game

reminded me of the Sixth Sense. Horribly boring and frighteningly crappy with somewhat of a save from an exciting ending…

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 9:51 AM CST reply actions  

I don't know if you're review of the Sixth Sense

is accurate.

The game, however, was very anti-climactic.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

you're right

(I used it correctly in this post!)

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Sometimes when you're (used it correctly here also) typing

quickly, you don’t (notice the apostrophe here as well) catch the grammatical mistakes in your post before you hit ‘post’

Your (that’s the proper use this time) quick response to my misuse of the contraction ’you’re’ has surely saved me of anymore unwelcomed embarrassment

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Mark Whalberg killing himself in his underoos?

yeah, you’re right. That movie sucked.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

That is a meaningless distinction.

He makes the worst movies ever. He’s Ed Wood with a budget.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

One of his biggest faults

was his need to try and replicate the Sixth Sense shocking ending. He had a terrible run of movies with these anticipated endings that were easily predictable to anyway paying attention.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Oooooooo, a twist?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

That even Mr. Magoo could see coming?

Yes.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah he kind of became the O Henry of movies

Everything has a TWIST at the end.

Honestly I think Unbreakable was pretty damn good. Signs was…ehh. It’s been all a one-way ticket to Disasterville from there.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Unbreakable was his best movie

Thought the fight scene in the house was a great. And the romantic-side plot was actually decent.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 11, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

That was old school Shyamalan.

Now he turns pretty cool shows like Avatar into unwatchable pieces of garbage.

Also, there wasn’t really a twist in Happening, just nonsense throughout. I didn’t find it very shocking that the super smart plants moved to a different location.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Surely none of the actors actually read the script for The Happening

Note to actors: any movie that asks you to, quite literally, try to outrun the wind….should be avoided.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a distinction.

I could at least get through 6th Sense. Wanted to walk out on Unbreakable(?), Village lost me when the people of the Village find out the monsters are fake, but are still somehow scared of them? Didn’t see The Event, or The Happening or whatever it was called.

And I take it back, Signs is his best movie.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I liked Signs and Sixth Sense.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I enjoyed Signs, and The VIllage wasn't horrible.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

haha.

The Happening was fucking awful.

Lady in the Water sucked.

Haven’t seen Devil, don’t want to.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Here's the thing

Devil wasn’t horrible. But he didn’t direct it.

If he fully committed to B movies, he could be great.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I thought he did.

He just wants you to leave the theatre going, WTF?

And usually I leave, going WTF? It might not be a good WTF? but it’s a WTF?

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I seem to recall...

…sometime around when “The Village” was being made, reading an article where he was comparing himself to Hitchcock and saying he was going to reinvent movies for the 21st century.

He seems to have a much higher opinion of himself than as a B movie director.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I love this video about Shyamalan

from college humor:

My career is dying.. Your career has been dead the whole time.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jan 11, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

The Happening was one of the worst movies ever.

My wife and I call it The Crappening. Between the stupid premise, Mark Wahlberg’s terrible overacting, and the most anti-climactic climax ever, that movie just flat-out sucked ass.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

"There's a Happening happening!"

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Sometimes Marky Mark

is just not a good fucking actor.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey Donkey.

How’s it going? Tell your mother hi for me.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

You're pregnant?

What’s that all about?

say hi to your mother for me, all right?

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope

But he has the best line of any movie ever.

“Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe go fuck yourself.”

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

that is correct

there’s also this:

If you knew what we did here we wouldn’t be any good at our jobs and that would make us cunts. Are you calling us cunts? (paraphrased a bit)

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, and this was the worst of the worst.

It was like he spent the entire movie trying hard to pull off being a freaking science teacher.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Slightly OT:

Worse casting: Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist (The World Is Not Enough) or Tara Reid as an archaelogist/museum curator (Alone In the Dark)?

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Never saw alone in the dark...

….but not only was Denise Richards so incredibly dumb sounding in Bond, but she is such a bad actress…

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, never saw Alone in the Dark either.

But Denise Richards was god-awful on a whole new level.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

The name's Dr. Christmas ____. Don't mind making any jokes, I've heard them all.

I don’t know any Doctor jokes.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

"I've always wanted to have Christmas in Turkey."

That Bond was really bad, but the next one with the ice palace and Catwoman and the sunlasersatellite was so, so awful.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT THE ASIAN GUY CHANGED HIS FACE.

And now there is another Asian guy with DIAMONDS in his face!

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Lol

That was the point when even the studio had to look around and go “wow, yeah, we really should cut back on the ridonkulousness a little.”

And we got the best Bond in decades after that. It’s a net win.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I have unreal amounts of brolove for Daniel Craig.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh man, me too

Layer Cake
Road to Perdition
Munich
Defiance
Casino Royale

Love ‘em all. Wasn’t too fond of the latest bond, but it wasn’t because of Craig.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Defiance ... meh.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

It's my Russian fixation

Liev Schrieber dominates the Russian accent in that movie. I’m a sucker for anything on the Russian front.

Enemy At the Gates probably isn’t as good as I remember, but I love the hell out of it anyway.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

MOST AWKWARD SEX SCENE OF ALL TIME.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

No, that would be...

the Kendra Wilkinson sex tape.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jan 11, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure there are a lot of really bad sex tapes

I can’t imagine the Tonya Harding sex tape was anything but awkward

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

The most awkward...

….are the depictions about the Playboy Mansion Hugh Hefner sex from the articles linked yesterday.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

The denouement...

of the Kendra sex tape was awful.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jan 11, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

My 50 year old Russian father hates the fuck out of Enemy at the Gates.

I thought it was ok.

That sniper still had nothing on the Finnish sniper, White Death
LINK

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Knew who you were talking about before even clicking on the link.

Hayha was a bad, bad man.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Yes.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude

for a relatively peaceful country, the Finns kicked the SHIT out of the Soviets for months before they finally gave in.

And invented wonderful things like the Molotov cocktail.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes he was. These facts just scream "Don't fuck with me"
The Soviets tried several ploys to get rid of him, including counter-snipers and artillery strikes. On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the jaw during combat by a Russian soldier. The bullet tumbled upon impact and left his head. He was picked up by fellow soldiers who said “half his head was missing” but he was not dead. He regained consciousness on March 13, the day peace was declared. Shortly after the war, Häyhä was promoted straight from corporal to second lieutenant by Field Marshal Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim. No one else has ever gained rank in such a quick fashion in Finland’s military history.
It took several years for Häyhä to recuperate from his wound. The bullet had crushed his jaw and blown off his left cheek. Nonetheless, he made a full recovery and became a successful moose hunter and dog breeder after World War II, and hunted with Finnish president Urho Kekkonen.

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Road to Perdition - underrated

And Casino Royal’s really quite good. The scene where she’s in the shower and he joins her is somehow poinant.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 11, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I've never understood the Road to Perdition hate from some people

I think that movie is fantastic. That scene in the rain with Paul Muhfuggin’ Newman? Gorgeous, cinematic gold (man I miss Conrad Hall).

Absolutely loved Casino as well. I know some call it “Bourne Bond,” but that’s not a bad thing at all in my book. My dad prefers the classic, cheesy, tons o’ gadgets and one-liners Bonds.

I say “give me real emotion” anyday.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Funny. I don't think I've ever seen it.

I turn on my TV, and bam, it’s not HBO. I’ll be watching it in full later.

by octoberty on Jan 11, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

No kidding, me too.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

heh

I saw an article a couple of years ago about the development of an invisible armored car/tank or something that would be doing that same thing.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 11, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Denise Richards......

I’m betting Tara Reid has at least been to a museum….Richards probably couldn’t pronounce nuclear physicist….

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't be silly

You don’t have to be a nuculear scientist to pronounce foilage.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 11, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Unbreakable was good, too

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I liked Sixth Sense the first time I watched it...

when it was called Jacob’s Ladder.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I just watched the game because I felt I had to....being the NC game and all

but it sucked bad….I was incredibly bored until the ending and then I turned it off saying to myself. fuck Newton.

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 11, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

just like Sixth Sense. Everyone said you just had to see it. I was bored for 100 minutes or so, and then boom, a good ending made it seem like not a total time waste.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like the 6th Sense to me.

Do I give a fuck about the psychological health of some baby? No. Do I give a fuck about the process of making the baby more well adjusted? Fuck no.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

true but i was pretty meh about the ending too

just didn’t give 2 shits really

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

x

Here’s my question about the notion of swapping Murphy and Byrd (or anything along those lines). Why would the Rangers obtaining Thome change the Rangers’ attitude about such a deal? I think that if Byrd for Murphy makes sense with Thome here, it makes sense without him as well. You already have the uncomfortable dynamic of Borbon and Murphy kind of being your 3rd and 4th OF and both preferably playing more against righties than lefties, plus the Moreland aspect. Thome doesn’t change any of that for me, really, it just makes the issue a little more obvious. The only explanation that makes sense to me is that the Rangers might be making sure that they don’t wind up with a RHB in that role instead.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 11, 2011 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

I think it already makes sense

I think adding Thome, though, makes it more of a necessity.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

It makes sense as is. Adding another lefty though makes it more necessary.

by Mike E on Jan 11, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

This Byrd talk

Are you guys just looking at it from the Rangers perspective? There’s no indication that the Cubs would be interested in doing this, right?

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't even see anyone else on the Cubs roster who could handle CF full time

And their COF spots are taken by Sori and Fukudome.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh, I was just looking this up on fg

And Byrd was pretty fair in CF in ’10. But really, who replaces him in a season they are trying to contend in?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it makes sense for the Cubs

Byrd is more expensive and they’d have Murphy longer. So if the Cubs don’t anticipate competing next year (yes, the Cubs always think they’ll compete, but really…)

You may have to throw in a Melo type (or even a bit better), but it isn’t unreasonable.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

For myself

I’m just talking about the concept. Could involve any relatively equal RHB for either Murphy or Borbon.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 11, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

What happened to Willy Tavares?

Did he get signed by somebody else. It seems like last year he was in line to make the 40 man playoff roster according to some. He is a righty.

by Philar on Jan 11, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

He tweaked his knee again not too long before they were set to add him to the 25

Don’t know what’s happened since.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Well by acquiring Byrd, Moreland would probably move from starting 1b to backup 1b/LF/RF

In other words, Moreland can step into Murphy’s role and Young can step into starting 1b.

by cstorm15 on Jan 11, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, we need an OF that hits RH and can play CF?

The vexing question is whether or not Josh really does wear down or has a tendency to get hurt in CF. Everybody knows what the answer is but they don’t wanna face it – cutting bait with the Team Jack-Off (Judy) and letting Josh play 80-100 games in CF. Gentry gets the opportunity to see if he can do the job and not STBF at the plate.

I don’t think that’s going to happen but that’s the solution.

I’m on board with signing Thome (need that OBP Machine!!) and giving him 340 plate appearances.

That leaves 250-300 plate appearances for Young as DH and then he can split time at 1B with Moreland. If they’re serious about the “super utility role” he can also get 10-15 games at 3B and at least 20 games at 2B.

I hate giving up Murphy because Cruz & Josh will get hurt (plus they need 20 games off each as well). It’s hard to figure out where his at bats will come in January but he always seems to find a way to get 400+ every season.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

Know the name, don't know the player.

This has been a lingering issue since last off-season and needs resolution.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

RH platoon CF for Colorado

Good defense, and good splits vs lefties, that Colorado doesn’t have much of a spot for

by MikeEl on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

My god...

…I agree. Shit. I’d take my chances with Hamilton in CF…it’s not like he’s never been hurt in the corners.

Borbon wouldn’t have much of a role on my roster…and it’s not as if he’s done much to warrant it.

So, I support Josey’s scenario. SHIT!

by Bats and Balls on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Judy's an awesome cheerleader and goes all out when it comes

to celebrating a series win…hat on backwards, crazy dancing, shirt untucked, Harry Carey goggles, throwing a bucket of Gatorade on Wash….but I’m sure we could shake a tree and find some other dumbass to fill that role.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Esteban German and his dumbass memes wave hello.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

And play above average to plus defense in CF while we're at it

You’re right those guys grow on trees. ON TREES I TELL YOU.

What do voluntary mean?

The dude abides.....

by JKolar on Jan 11, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Dropping Borbon isn't the answer

Hamilton is too important offensively to be playing him in CF everyday. In an ideal world, we’d keep Hamilton fresh and healthy by moving between LF and DH.

If we’re talking about a playoff lineup, I have absolutely no problem moving Hamilton to CF. But for 162 regular season games, its more important to keep Hamilton healthy and fresh.

Plus, you really underestimate Borbon’s defensive value. A CF arrangement with Borbon and Gentry would save a ton of runs.

by cstorm15 on Jan 11, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: I'm watching The Pacific

That shit is just brutal. Just fucking brutal. It’s good but not as good as Band of Brothers.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 9:57 AM CST reply actions  

I got the Blueray set the other day as a gold deal on Amazon.

Waiting for a chance to sit down and plow through it.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm on episode 7 of 10.

The first 4 or so episodes don’t have much fighting, but after they leave Australia, shit goes downhill very fast.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I made it through about 4 episodes

There’s a really weak episode mid-way through the series when Lecky (sp?) goes on medical leave for…I dunno, PTSD or shellshock or something. Couldn’t get back in to it after that.

Had some very strong moments though, and I hear the latter half of the series is better. Loses a lot in comparison to Band of Brothers. With BoB, you had a single company that just happened to go through a ridiculous amount of famous campaigns and battles, so it’s easier for you (the audience) get to know and care about all of the characters. The Pacific doesn’t have that luxury, and it feels thin.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

That's like the BoB that focused on the doctor and his nurse GF.

Weakest storyline in that whole series.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that was the weakest episode.

The next one they were still in Bastogne, but the story focused on the battle and the troops dealing with the conditions, and it was much better.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

The episode that follows that one makes up for it. Although I think that’s the one when Muck dies…which gets me every time.

Oddly enough, the actor who plays Muck now does those Pepsi One commercials.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

It might have been the weakest

but it was still one great episode.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 11, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I prefer Generation Kill

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I got it on bluray for Christmas

So I am watching it again.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

WWII in HD

That was the shit.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 11, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

the actual war and conditions are ridiculously awful. The actual series is a notch below BOB

by roostercogburn11 on Jan 11, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I think part of it is...

…that there’s no super compelling storyline like Market Garden or Battle of the Bulge. It’s just these marines fighting a guerilla war in the jungle in these piece of shit islands, and also fighting the elements while trying to not go completely insane.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

My main source of interest

was in fact the locations of these battles. I loved the zoom into the map technique to show just how miniscule these locations were compared to other places in the world. My wife’s grandfather fought at Pelielu. I never met him, but her dad showed me pictures and his knife he carried in his boot while he was there.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

exactly.

That’s what sold Pacific for me.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

So, so violent

But I loved it.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Snafu was one crazy SOB.

He’s been in some other things from time to time. I think he’s got a bright future ahead of him….

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Is that the guy they got on the Ticket?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah. Remi Malek.

The guy who if you saw him and heard him, you would think his voice doesn’t match his appearance.

The guy who took out the gold teeth.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Right!

thx

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

I really enjoyed The Pacific. It’s a different war from that of the European side. The Japanese were never going to give up, and the marines/army had hell to go through to win those battles.

I had relatives that were stationed on places like Iwo after the war and there were Japanese that were still there not surrendering. They had to blow up entrances etc to just trap them.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

There were two Japanese on Iwo Jima who didn't surrender until the late 1940's.

They just hid out in the underground bunkers and came out in the night to scavenge for food. On some of the other big islands like the Philippines, there were Japanese soldiers that hid out until the 70’s. The battle between the Allies and Germany was brutal but most of the the German commanders like Rommel fought a respectable war. The Japanese on the other hand either fought to death or committed suicide if they thought they were going to be captured. They thought the Americans were cowards because they didn’t fight that way.

by casew on Jan 11, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

It's hard to copy BOB, even though it's the same producers, directors, etc....

BOB was more about the bonds and subtle plot lines.

Pacific was more about the strategies and wars of the mind in those god awful environments.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

And BoB had the guy that played Winters.

I fucking love that guy.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah. The guy that was in Dreamcatcher.

Had to look him up. He did a show on NBC for a while with a friend of mine from HS. I think it was called Life or something like that.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

My wife loved that show.

She cried when she found out it was cancelled. Damion Lewis, I think?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

correctamundo.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

She really likes the show Detroit 1-8-7 now.

I’m beginning to think she is drawn to crappy shows.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

too many damn cop shows these days.

I’ve been watching Blue Bloods – very underrated.

But I see there’s a new coming on FOX called The Chicago Code.
One too many.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Watched some of Castle last night during halftime...

….because this girl I was watching with loves the show. I’ve never seen it and I wasn’t a huge fan.

I watched an episode of Bones the other day for the first time. Not bad.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Castle is all right. Only because of Nathan Fillion, though.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Not only b/c of Fillion.

Stana Katic is very nice!!!!!

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

x

I assume that’s the female lead? Something about her face struck me as odd. It’s like it’s too wide and flat or something.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

You are unbelievable sometimes.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Well there is something different about her features

But for me it’s the good kind of different.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, me likey.

She’s been in some random movies as of late that feature a little bit better than Castle.

But, to stroke Aqua ESQ’s ego, YES, the show wouldn’t survive without the badassedness that is Nathan Fillion.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Why does my ego care about Fillion?

I’m not a Fillyfreak.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Terrible, terrible rash.

And I just made it up.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

i wouldn't be surprised.

Never underestimate his Firefly constituents. Those people go gah gah over him.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Scroll up hoss.

You just said the only reason the show works is b/c of him. You going back on that?

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I meant to include Stana Katic.

But seriously, why would it hurt my ego for you to disagree?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

relax, have some dip.

I’m just messin with ya, mate. No harm, no foul.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Say hi to your mother for me, all right?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

you can tell her later when you both go get your monthly tests....

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

We don't really ... speak ... when we go for those.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

lol

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Fillion Rocks

/Extreme Firefly bias here

LSB memetarded.

by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 11, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

You'd think with Katic and Fillion that show would be better than it is, but it's really not.

It’s not that it’s bad it’s just that it’s basically the same as 99% of the other cop shows out there and the twist with Fillion being a mystery writer really doesn’t differentiate it half as much as they thought it would.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I really don't get what people see in her.

She just doesn’t seem all that attractive to me

by MikeEl on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it's the tall Russian bit.

Works for some, me included, doesn’t work for others….

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Only one worthwhile is First 48

That’s where you get the real human misery.

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I've learned from the First 48...

that if a cop is telling me to confess because he’s got me dead to rights, I should not confess because he doesn’t have any evidence.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

A general rule.

And by “general,” I mean “always 100% correct”: cops lie.

Sorry to loblaw, but man are cops dirty.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Is that actually 'dirty' though?

They’re within their rights to lie, no?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't worry.

Everything about the ads for that show just drives me nuts. It literally makes me like sick to my stomach thinking about actually watching the show for 44 minutes.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Can not change the channel fast enough.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I feel like we've had this discussion before.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Hope you didn't read that article this morning

about the Baltimore cops who shot and killed a plainclothes police officer who was breaking up a fight. Killed a 22 year guy as well.

Between that and the guy who “accidentally discharged” his weapon into the back fo the dude lying down on the subway in Oakland…yikes.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

22 yr old, that is

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugh.

Fucking cops are almost always just powerhungry assholes on a power trip. Some of them grow out of it.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

"almost always just powerhungry assholes on a power trip."

Tell us how you really feel.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd say it's true in Texas

Most cops are decent guys trying to do an important job. But I also know my share of wannabe gunslingers who think they’re Dirty Harry and just can’t wait to shoot somebody.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Anecdotal evidence is the best kind to slander thousands of public servants.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Puh-lease.

They are trained to lie. I’m not slandering anything if it’s the truth.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

If you'll notice, I replied to Wildcat.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I did notice.

I just think you are being overly defensive about cops.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

By saying cops are trained to lie?

They are trained by lie.

By saying most are on power trips?

Mostare on power trips.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I enjoy blanket statements that can't be proven.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

That cops are trained to lie?

That can be proven. It’s what they are trained to do. That is not a blanket, or inaccurate statement whatsoever.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he was aiming at the second half, there

But, again, if they’re trained to lie, and allowed to lie, is a cop lying a bad thing?

.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

"Most are on power trips."

You’ve met how many cops in your entire life, 50? 100 at the very most?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

He is a cop.

Ergo, he is on a power trip.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Sounds reasonable to me.

After a few years some (maybe even most) grow out of it. Problem is, most of the idiots the general population deal with are the newer beat cop types.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

That's ridiculous on a number of levels.

But I can see there’s no persuading you, so whatever.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really, though I've said before that my brother is a cop.

I’ve also said that he’s a total moron.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

In his defense

It’s hard to tell once the thread gets pushed over this far.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude I'm not saying I hate cops

My best man’s brother is a cop in Austin. Grew up with the guy. Most of my “bad cop” stories come from him.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

And for every bad story he can probably truthfully tell

There are a million good stories that nobody cares to hear.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure

Society needs a police force. I’m sure FP wouldn’t hesitate to call the cops if his house was getting broken in to.

I’m just saying, especially in Texas, people still think the 2nd Amendment gives them the right to be Wyatt Earp, not just cops.

Anyway, yesterday’s political fracas was enough for me. Moving on.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Everybody Dirty Harry shot

got what they had coming.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Cops

Sure, some of them are jerks, but that’s true of pretty much any profession. The majority of officers I’ve met have been decent people.

My brother is one, and “powerhungry asshole” is about the last phrase I’d use to define him.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 11, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

If they're not breaking the law

I want them to do whatever it takes to make me safer.

Go cops.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess I care about people more than cops.

And if you think their bullshit shenanigans does anything to make any of us safer at all, you’re crazy.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

shenanigoats.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

If it’s getting a legal confession out of a serial criminal, I don’t see how I’m wrong.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

DAMN YOU AND YOUR INCREDIBLE WIT, COPS!

You just made me tell you EVERYTHING!

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Cops are people too.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Compared to parasitic lawyers, cops are angelic when it come to telling the truth.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Parasitic lawyers sounds like the setup to a new WB vampire show.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Or redundant.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

You mad?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

JarJar Wales notsa gonna gets mads

JarJar isa gonna get stupids and do lotsa postings! Waheeeee! Yaysa for JarJar!

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I hope you get felt up by a big

fat white guy with bad breath the next time you try to get on an airplane.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he's calling GB a terrorist

Which is incredibly fucking stupid and more reason I’m glad he’s selling some shit in Plano rather than doing something that actually effects the world.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm surprised

you have any idea what he does. He usually avoids the question of his employment like the plague…

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought him being in sales was common knowledge

But if I’m wrong about that, I still don’t give a shit about whatever it is he does for money.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not calling anybody a terrorist.

GB made a big deal about having to wait in line for a long time while trying to navigate airport security.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Retraction, then

Although I seem to remember you being pro-profiling by TSA in the past.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes,

Josey and I had a discussion at one point as to the whether there should be limits to what TSA is able to do and what those limits should be. Being a brown guy, I’ve had more than a little ‘extra attention’ from TSA. We, not surprisingly, differed in opinion.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

And myself and my wife (40 something white people) both

have been detained for whatever reason at airport security and I gladly accepted it under the “Necessary Evil” umbrella of the world we live in.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

As for Josey

If was before November of last year, and you made a selectee, that wasn’t TSA. The airlines held all the dice, except for a very small amount of people, in that game. Piss off the ticket counter person, and four S’s appear on your ticket, and you’re ‘randomly’ selected. They didn’t tell TSA why, they just told us they weren’t letting you on the plane until TSA used top-shelf screening measures.

If you weren’t a selectee, SPOT agents might have flagged you for behavior. Or you might have got caught in an interview situation (but those are rare as crap).

Or you might have just not gotten a travel sized toothpaste.

GB, that’s some bullshit. But, there’s still people all around the business who;
A: Don’t understand the existence of the subcontinent, and the difference between Sikhs/Indians/Hindus and Pakis/Afghanis/Arabs. This is a huge peeve of mine.
B: Don’t give a shit either way. Also a peeve.

Anyway, unless you’re in Sikh garb (turban (nonformfitting headwear) and robes (bulky outergarments)) there’s no official additional screening measures on the books for brown folks. There are assholes in uniforms, though. Sorry.

/yeah, DHS employee.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting.

Thanks for the information. Yeah, it’s funny to me that they don’t realize that Indian Hindus hate Pakistani/Afghan Muslims as much as American Christians do.

And, in case you were wondering, traditional Sikh garb just missed the cut in deciding on a wardrobe. =)

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Despite the fact that about ten hours of training each year is required in Sikh/Hindu culture

Although I will say that Indian passports look like they were made in some dude’s garage.

They’re handwritten! in 2011!

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Hah, I didn't know that.

My mom is now a US citizen, so I haven’t seen an Indian passport in some time.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

TSA screening

My dad gets picked frequently due to his artificial knee, and he’s a retired FAA executive.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 11, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I get picked all the time for extra frisking because nobody can believe my cack is actually that big.

The scanners see it and think I must have a billy club in my pants.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you also get a double-major

at a community college in less than 4 years?

Nobody gives a fuck how big your junk is or what you did in college.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

No, but seriously.

My junk is fucking huge, Josey. You don’t even know.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe I will.

And maybe I will.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel like he needs to know how ginormous my junk is.

It has been written about it a quasi-Homeric epic and is the subject of a new E True Hollywood Story.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Link?

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It's on the down-low.

Just like my junk.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

email me a pic

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Can it, Hoops.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Good hell, this shit again? Seriously, that's all you got?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh snap

lawyer cliches. BOOM ROASTED!!!

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

all you get is a toaster?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

well, we get to keep the scalps of the innocent people we slaughter, too

forgot about that. Serious, FP, you should come up here and do a ridealong with me. Seriously. This job isn’t 99% of what you think it is. Most of it is secretarial work (taking detailed, thorough reports and getting yelled at by your idiot bosses).

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET

by Bob Loblaw on Jan 11, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you get to keep the guns, money, and drugs

that are confiscated?

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

we generally have a massive party at the end of the night where we use up all the drugs

the ones we can’t snort up, we sell. That, combined with our pimpin’ business pays for the huge Pagan Gangbang Party at the winter solstice.

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET

"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11

by Bob Loblaw on Jan 11, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

umm, may I join you on a ridealong?

And where do I apply for a full time job?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 11, 2011 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

That sure is a shiny quote you got there in your sig

hee hee

"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08

by Lisa W on Jan 11, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought it was apropos...

"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"

"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET

"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11

by Bob Loblaw on Jan 11, 2011 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Lawyers, Guns, and Money.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Great show

it’s interesting to watch a show where you see the real pacing of a criminal investigation. Not send this to the lab and 10 minutes later they have a list of suspects, addresses etc.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Southland is...decent?

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I like it.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Have you watched The Cape yet?

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

got it dvr'ed

I have my reservations. But it’s got Vinny Jones, so……

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I watched both episodes last night....

Liked the first one….meh on the 2nd episode….think I’m going to stick with it for a while.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Me too

I was interested enough to hang for a while and see where it goes.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll probably watch it for a bit.

But it’s trying too hard, I think. It very much wants to be Dark Night esque, which is definitely something it should strive for.

We’ll see where it goes.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

See....that's where I started liking it...

I don’t know if you’re a father but that’s where I identify with him….it would kill me to a) not be able to see my kid and b) my kid thinking I was some sort of lunatic, mass murderer….

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

ack...meant to respond to LSJ about the father/son thing...

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

They laid the "family name/father son bond" BS on waaaay too thick in the second episode, but it's still better than I thought it was going to be.

The problem with superhero stuff is always drumming up a convincing environment for the hero to be in, and they did a surprisingly decent job of that, I think.

Plus, Summer Glau.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

She is some serious fucking smoke.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

This

…and This:

They laid the “family name/father son bond” BS on waaaay too thick in the second episode

LSB memetarded.

by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 11, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

The same melodramatic

parent/child bullshit is starting to turn me away from “V” as well.

LSB memetarded.

by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Fucking ABC.

I missed the first episode of this season last week and there is nowhere to watch it online.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

You haven't missed much

I’m on the verge of canceling the season pass on it. The smokin hot blonde from Smallville is the only thing keeping me watching these days. They even managed to fuck up Morena Baccarin with that awful short hair.

LSB memetarded.

by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 11, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Southland............WAS decent.

Till NBC screwed the pooch and let it go.

Different writers for the TNT version and you can tell.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's probably it.

It was good on NBC.

They’ve only had the one episode on TNT, and it was still not bad.

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Is Blue Bloods the one with the chick that was banging Ben Roethlisberger?

Mindy something or other?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

No.

Blue Bloods is the one with the girl that Brady knocked up and ditched once Giselle came a courtin.

Also Tom Selleck and for the second time today in LSB, Donnie Whalberg.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

RIGHT.

Which one am I thinking about?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

dunno.

I didn’t know Rapeyburger banged an actress. I thought he only went for south eastern college girls who were unwilling….

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

It was the chick in Reaper.

Super hot.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

VERRRRRRRRRRRY underrated.

So glad they brought her on!

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

that show was great

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 11, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

and there are less people to be able to tell their first hand accounts

focusing on 3 individuals rather than following a company can be confusing at the start but it gets better the more you watch, and the second time you watch the series as it’s less difficult to follow who is who.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of cable shows.

Watched Californication and the new one, Shameless last night.

I think it’s funny, I can dismiss an entire season of Hank Moody and still be right back on pace after one ep.

Shameless has potential, especially is Emmy Rossum gets more nude scenes. Macy is hilarious as the drunk.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed 100%.

It is hard to stand up to Band of Brothers, but it was still OK.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't like battle dramas.

They’re generally very cliched and focus on so much violence that it kind of seems like pornography pretending to be catharsis.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

ie - the new era of horror/slasher films being referred to as "torture porn"?

I get that.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

i don't appreciate the new horror/slasher films

"He recently scored as high as an 8.5 on the Ryin A Scale of Douchebaggery." -Ryan A on the douchebag that is Kevin Millar

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 11, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

that could have a thread of it's own, mate.

Wes better get his ducks in a row for Scream 4, especially after that abortion he did called “My Soul To Take”.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

other way around.

Pacific, sans UBER-VIOLENCE, would’ve sold itself better.

Pacific was TEN TIMES gorier than BOB.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

x

Well, I think the story of the Pacific Theater was the conditions – that is the conditions they dealt with in the jungle, as well as the insanely violent battles to control a tiny little speck of an island.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Not that the European theater wasn’t hellish, but something about jungle warfare just seems to drive people crazy.

I know it’s a movie, but look at the scene near the end of Band of Brothers when they’re watching film of the Pacific front and word is going around they might all be transferred to fight the Japanese. Nobody is wanting to step into that nightmare.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Crazy, war-loving, battle-hardened Major Winters.

Should have been a General.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

He passed away Jan. 2

Dude, 'retarded' is not the preferred nomenclature. "Asian-American", please. -jam0152

by Bulldog83 on Jan 11, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Part of what made BOB great was you also got to know a lot of the characters.

In Pacific, I had no idea who any of those guys were, except Bastogne and Lucky. And it was hard to tell what was going on half the time, but I guess that was how it actually was…

by MikeEl on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, it was much harder to get attached to characters

since it was hard to keep them straight.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

running across a wide open airfield that they just had to control on an island about the size of Cowboys Stadium was kind of crazy to watch.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

I just think that violence was the thing that drove it to begin with.

Same thing with Private Ryan. I think a lot of that movie’s acclaim comes from the violence. The story’s not terribly interesting and the pacing is really shitty, but everybody loves it because it’s WWII and there’s guys getting their heads blown off. Whether the point is to show what people had to go through or not, it doesn’t do much for me and I don’t like watching them.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

We have

suprisingly similar views on this stuff. I watched Saving Private Ryan one time and did not see the attraction that most did.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I saw it and moved on.

Now, that being said, We Were Soldiers was set up perfectly. Mel did a good job with that baby. And you can never say anything bad about Sam Elliot.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Severely underrated movie

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Braveheart 3: Vietnam

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Chris Kline does his best to suck

But he gets killed in the end, so it’s all good.

And how can you not like:
Green recruit: “Good morning, Sergeant Major.”
Sam BadassMuthafuckin’ Elliot: “How do you know what kind of GOD. DAMN. DAY it is, private?”

Win.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

in the end?

try halfway during the movie.

Barry Pepper takes up the slack as well. He can do no wrong in my book.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, he rocks pretty hard in that movie

I also thought it did a good job of showing how the North Vietnamese had a real army and not just guerilla troops like the Vietcong.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

EXACTLY.(man, that coffee is kicking in.)

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Saigon didn't fall to men in black pajamas.

It fell to a regular army with all the accoutrement of modern warfare.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

x

I agree about Private Ryan, but I think it’s acclaimed because nobody had ever depicted D-Day in such a way before. I don’t think that is a celebration of the violence, just an acknowledgement that finally someone was showing the audience something much closer to what it was actually like that day on the beach.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

So,

you don’t like it because it’s too violent, that means that everybody else loves because it is so violent?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it's as popular as it is because of the violence.

That doesn’t have anything to do with how I feel about it.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Disagree

The story was compelling. Not necessarily the plot but the interaction of the characters. Like when Tom Hanks got his Dr. killed while taking a machine-gun nest? And Barry Peppers and Tom Sizemore were really good in it. It was a well-told story.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 11, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he's finally beginning to emerge from the cloud of suck

that was Battlefield Earth.

He was in the Coens’ True Grit, so maybe there’s a career renaissance on the horizon.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Pepper in True Grit was a suprise when I watched it

He’s in it, what, 10-15 minutes? But he’s pretty pivotal.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 11, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Roger Maris in 61

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah.

Extremely boring after the invasion sequence.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I appreciate the violence in movies like SPR because of accuracy

Not because I love seeing guys with their intestines torn out crying for their mothers. It’s tough to watch, painful even- but it’s accurate. Go back and watch movies from the ‘50s, ’60s, and ’70s about WWII…it’s all sterilized and sanitary.

I think SPR tried to demonstrate that even “the good war” was absolute hell on those who served. And that’s worthy of applause, in my book.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

I don’t see how you can classify Saving Private Ryan lovers as the same as Saw 1-10,000 lovers.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

This

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jan 11, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

obviously

the supernatural, exorcism, and sci-fi type horrors are excluded.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

war is violent

The Pacific doesn’t make it pretty, and shouldn’t

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoa.

War is violent? You mean that picnic we put together to watch the First Battle of Manassas Junction was not a good idea?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Ha! Props for Civil War reference

I’m going to visit Gettysburg, Manassas, and Chancellorsville on my DC trip for Spring Break this year.

Totally stoked.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Must be. Only kids love American history and want to see the places where important events occurred.

Don’t tell the veterans, though.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

No kidding

I went on a trip to DC Spring Break of my freshman year of college, and spent the entire week looking at historical buildings and places. One of the best trips of my life.

Not everyone finds history dry and boring- some of us actually dig it.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I went to DC for an 8th grade trip.

Loved it.

Went again a few years ago and it’s an incredible trip if you love history.

I don’t remember the WW2 Somesuch being there when I was younger but I was blown away.

The Nam Memorial is outstanding and somber but I was spooked by the Korean Memorial (or whatever it’s called)…just haunting for some reason because the statues looked so authentic.

The Lincoln Memorial gave me chills and walking out of it and overlooking the Mall is intoxicating.

It’s a great, great trip and if the Rangers are in DC any time soon, I may make another trip.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

That's when I was there...caught the Rangers/Orioles

in August.

It’s outstanding.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

That's an incredible memorial.....

when we were at that memorial, there were some veterans that were there courtesy of Honor Flight….it’s a charity that pays for WWII vets to go to DC and see the memorial. It was very moving…we came home and donated immediately.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Very much looking forward to it

We’re taking a full day to do The Mall area, a full day at the Smithsonians (honestly I could probably do the whole week here alone, but…well, I’m a nerd), and then another day for Arlington Cemetery, the White House, and Ford’s Theater.

Other two days are at Gettysburg, then Fredricksburg, Manassas, and Chancellorsville.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

If your itenerary is not too full, I highly recommend DC By Foot....

it’s a free walking tour that starts at the Washington Memorial and ends at the Lincoln Memorial….it’s free but they do ask for tips (we gave the guy 20 bucks—we had 5 people in our family and figured that was about right)…

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I bet we could go for that

We haven’t made a detailed itinerary yet, so nothing is locked in. We’re staying with some friends in West Virginia the day before we drive up to Gettysburg, so the husband who lives there might recommend some stuff.

But I’ll check out the DC By Foot tour when we start planning in detail.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Do that instead of the mall

A full day at the Mall is probably not necessary. If you guys are troopers and can walk at a decent pace, you can cover the entirety of the mall in a half a day.

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

It doesn't sound you'll like have time Wilcat

but the Smithsonian is worth a full two days. That place is my favorite thing about DC bar-none.

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Even if you just did the Museum of Natural history and the Museum of American History

it’d be worth half your day (though you couldn’t see everything in those two Museums). That place is simply massive

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Last time I was there

I went into the Museum of American History for about 2 hours. All it did was piss me off that I didn’t have weeks to spend.

Meh.

by spaceblues on Jan 11, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what I'm afraid of, lol

I’m also an aircraft/spacecraft junkie, so I’ll want to see the aviation museum.

For those who’ve been there, is it possible to see:

Washington Monument
Jefferson Memorial
Lincoln Memorial
WWII Memorial
Vietnam Memorial
Korean War Memorial
Capitol Building

in a half-day? If so, we could probably get more Smithsonian time in the other half of that day.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

No chance.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

That's some serious hoofing

and you’d spend virtually no time at any of the monuments

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

At some, there's not a lot to see.

Jefferson/Lincoln/Washington (if you don’t go up in it), it’s just a walk up, take a look, walk off.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

That's ridiculous

You can see the Mall (Wash, Lincoln, WWII) in maybe 2-3 hours.

The rest will probably take another 3 hours – except the Capitol building, which should take another 1-2 hours.

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Half day? No.....

Full day? Yes….

You might be able to do the memorials in half a day but I doubt you could do it if you include the Capitol Bldg.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

See that's what I figured

So we planned for a full day at the Mall.

Personally, I’m the kind of guy who has to fight the urge to “see everything.” And then I end up not really remembering anything in detail.

Lately I’ve learned it’s better to get a quality experience at a handful of places and not be rushed, versus hauling ass all over DC just to spend 5 mins at each place.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

We’ve been to NY three times and always see those people that are just flying around town to take snapshots. They wind up with a photo album of crappy pictures and no real memories.

Meh.

by spaceblues on Jan 11, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Make sure you hit up the

National Air and Space museum…pretty cool. The mall is cool if you are just in town visiting, you can definitely make a day out of it. There is a lot of other stuff to do in DC though. I feel like a lot of people get hung up spending too much time on the mall.

by eric03tx on Jan 11, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh you can count on it

That’s my priority one, followed by American History and then maybe Natural History if I can fit it in.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

As for other things to check out

Be sure to walk through Georgetown, down M street. As far as restaurants – have to hit up the Old Ebbitt Grille – trust me.

by eric03tx on Jan 11, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Ooh, I'm always down for good food recommendations

Gonna write that one down. Gracias!

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Old Ebbitt Grille is good

And there’s another pub near the Capitol called Bullfeathers that’s good.

"I actually believe that goofy, anthropomorphic numbers with arms and legs and silly oversize white gloves play all of the games we know of in what we call professional baseball. Call me crazy, but that is what I believe." -FJM

by Desert Ranger on Jan 11, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Its a favorite of all locals

Daily Grill is also good – theres one south of Dupont Circle and another in upper Georgetown. Ceiba, if its still there, was also very good.

by eric03tx on Jan 11, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes. I loved that area during my visits.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Smithsonian

You definitely have to do that if you’re in DC. We went to the Natural History, American History, and Aerospace Museums.

I’m a distant cousin of the Wright brothers, so it was pretty cool to walk into the Aerospace Museum and see their plane right there in the lobby.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 11, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice

Yep, those are the three I think I can see in a day. I read all the little placards and info boxes at museums (took me like three hours to get through the Negro Leagues museum in Kansas City), so I’ll still have to keep an eye on the watch.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

It's about 2 to 2.5 hours long...we took the later tour and ended up at the

Lincoln Memorial right around dusk….the memorials are completely different at night.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

That third day is going to be hectic.

A day at the Smithsonians is probably fine. It will feel like you haven’t seen everything but them’s the breaks. The only thing is, you need to realize that there are some things you probably really want to see, like the National Archives, so you need to allocate accordingly. You can easily get lost for 3-4 hours at Air and Space.

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Another tip....

if you want to go to the National Archives….make an reservation!!!! There’s a link on the National Archives website that will allow you to make a reservation for a certain day/time…this will allow you to bypass the line outside of the Archives. You will still have to wait in a line inside to see the Declaration and Constitution but it cuts out a significant amount of time waiting in that outside line….

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Good tip

Thanks GSF.

@ab03- Yeah, I don’t think there’s any way we could see everything in the Smithsonians. I mean, I’d be the guy to want to see all 19 museums.

Guess I’ll just have to prioritize.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly....next time we go back it will be for at least 5-6 days....

The thing is, if you’re an aviation junkie, they have another Air and Space Museum in Chantilly, VA….it’s just as good as the one in DC…..it’s about 45 minutes outside of DC near Dulles Airport

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, I kinda got to scratch my aviation itch

last year in Portland. There’s a badass museum up there called Evergreen Air & Space Museum. We were driving out to the casinos and I spotted it from the road.

Turns out it’s where the Spruce Goose is (motherfucker is HUGE….obviously, but you can’t even imagine ‘til you actually see it). God, I was in heaven. They had an F-14, F-15, a Spitfire, a B-17, MiG-17, Focke Wulf, C-17, all kinds of good shit. They’re supposedly getting a space shuttle when the first ones start retiring.

But the real prize was a MiG-29. Holy shit, I soiled myself when I saw that baby. Only one of two civilian owned models in the U.S. Gorgeous.

Still gotta hit up the DC Smithsonian one though.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

The British War Museum in London was my favorite museum, I think.

But it’s been a long time since I went to DC. ’92 or ’93, I think.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes!

So underrated.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

The science museum in Chicago

is one of my favs.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

that is a great science museum

My wife and I went for a couple hours because we had free tickets and we both were bummed that we didn’t have all day to spend there. The Field Museum in Chicago is also pretty sweet.

by Mike the Grate on Jan 11, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't get to see that in London this summer

One of the biggest bummers during my stay there

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

A somewhat underrated museum

the spy museum (it costs money though). Pretty fun time. But in the land of free museums, it’s hard to get people to pay

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

The one in Chantilly is massssiiiivve!!! Dozens of planes from several wars...

It has the space shuttle Enterprise (not a smaller model….the actual shuttle) and right in front of it is the SR-71 Blackbird….I found this picture…

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

SR71 Blackbirds are awesome.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Those, the stealth bomber, P51 Mustang, and B1 Bombers.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

P51 and the B52....

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I have always loved F16s the most.

Something about their lines and the big air intake underneath the cockpit.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

There's one in Tucson as well

At the very cool Pima Air and Space Museum. Also have a airplane boneyard and a bunch of current fighters in mothballs you can see

"I actually believe that goofy, anthropomorphic numbers with arms and legs and silly oversize white gloves play all of the games we know of in what we call professional baseball. Call me crazy, but that is what I believe." -FJM

by Desert Ranger on Jan 11, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Go look up AMARC sometime on google maps.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy cow hahaha

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup, you can take tours through it

It’s impressive, the planes just seem to go on forever.

"I actually believe that goofy, anthropomorphic numbers with arms and legs and silly oversize white gloves play all of the games we know of in what we call professional baseball. Call me crazy, but that is what I believe." -FJM

by Desert Ranger on Jan 11, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely something you'd want to do in cooler weather.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

That's for sure

The clay the planes are on is basically concrete and it gets up to like 105-110 in the summer out here with no humidity. It’s like being baked.

"I actually believe that goofy, anthropomorphic numbers with arms and legs and silly oversize white gloves play all of the games we know of in what we call professional baseball. Call me crazy, but that is what I believe." -FJM

by Desert Ranger on Jan 11, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

How could I forget the SR-71?

The Evergreen Museum had one in the Space side (there were two large museums, one for atmospheric flight and one for spaceflight). Just surreal.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Spitfire is one of my favorite

WW2 planes.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Corsair for me.

And the A-10 for modern planes.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jan 11, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't think of the Corsair to save my life.

A10 Warthogs were bamfs

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

A-10 and F-18

are on my “must see” aircraft lists. A-10 shouldn’t be too hard since a lot of them are in mothballs now.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Believe it or not

Tyler actually has a nice little aviation museum.

Had an F-111 Aardvark (first time I’d ever seen one of those), an F-117 (the one that used to be out in front of the Right Stuff ride at Six Flags), an F-4 Phantom, and a handful of others. Worth taking a look at for sure.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

When I was a kid...

I used to go to the Pate Museum out by Benbrook Lake. There was a Voodoo there. Don’t think they had any other planes, but there was a B-52-launched drone at the entrance.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jan 11, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember that joint.

I think the only thing left standing is one of the warships they had. It’s an empty lot now.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Loved the Pate Museum....

always went there as a kid on the way to Dinosaur Valley

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Went to Dinosaur Valley when I was a kid

It seemed pretty meh honestly. Maybe I was expecting something different at the park.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Midland had a Mustang and Corsair when I was a kid.

They might have the others by now. It was a small museum, but very good.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Midland has the Commemorative Air Force Musuem

which has a pretty good collection of WWII planes. When I was a kid, I used to love going to the Midland Air Show and watching all of those old planes fly.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

The Thunderbirds do an annual show here for Frontier Days

Oddly, it’s also the first place they ever did an air show. They just celebrated an anniversary of their inagural show. Pretty impressive. It’s fun because they fly in early and I can sit in my backyard and watch them dicking around.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 11, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

The Vietnam Memorial

Yeah, that was pretty surreal. I went there with my parents, and both of them found names of people they knew on the wall. I gained a lot better appreciation of what my dad went through in Vietnam that day.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 11, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

What did you think of the Korean Memorial?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't see it

My trip was about five years before it was built. I would like to see it, though, as my uncle was a vet of that war.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 11, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

They have 10-11 different statues of soldiers in

a field spaced apart that look to be advancing on an enemy.

Each soldier had a different role and there was copy on a plaque describing what they did in the war.

Awesome, stunning, spectacular and the looks on the faces of the soldiers was haunting.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Again

I work at a junior college. We get spring break off just like the students.

The vacation is there to placate us in to accepting our sub-high school teacher salaries.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

We get spring break off also

and make high school teaching salaries

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Fun, isn't it?

$31,000/yr salary
$45,000 student loan debt

Ahhh, the joys of Baylor…

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

31k?

You need a H.S. job in the metroplex.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm in a similar boat with TCU

$31K to $26K debt. Shit sucksssss

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

0, 55k

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol what?

“Totally stoked?”

Luckily you didn’t see me doing the California pinkie/thumb shake.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, the Spring Break thing, I get it

I work in education, comrade. It’s just like being back in school. Never been to DC before, so we’re making a family/girlfriend pilgrimmage out of it.

I predict tons of bad weather and lots of borderline divorce-level fighting. It’s a family vacation tradition.

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I did DC for my Spring Break trip my senior year in college

My roommate and I got a steal on a room at a Holiday Inn ($17 a night) but we had to share a king bed.

by Mike the Grate on Jan 11, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Chick roommate?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude roommate

It was uncomfortable, but worth the savings. It only got weird when he wanted to spoon…

by Mike the Grate on Jan 11, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

And you did it, right?

It was just for body heat.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Ouch.

I did go to UT for law school, but I’m always a Frog. And, not to restart anything from above, but I have a feeling that GP will be around for a while. No basis in fact, just a feeling.

by Mike the Grate on Jan 11, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

“Here’s the problem with Thome…if he is going to be the DH against righthanded pitchers, what do you do with Michael Young against righties? Play him at first base?”

Sorry, AJM, but that’s hardly a problem…or in the least it’s a good problem to have. It’s almost like a painter saying, “Hell, I have this awesome alizarin crimson color, but I just don’t have room on my palette.”

There is always room for talented players, particularly if the price is right. Depth is good…and with the falling market on Soriano, I’d explore that possibility as well.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 11, 2011 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

Do you spend on your crimson color

if you have only money to buy one color and you already have a red but really need a blue?

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Who?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

we don't have an unlimited budget

We probably can’t spend much more than what Thome will cost

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

There were indications several weeks ago...

…from Chuck that there wouldn’t be a problem if the payroll were in the $110 million area, IIRC.

Adding players, right now, is about value. If you can get a still-terrific offensive bat, which would be awesome in THIS park for a decent amount of money, I think you improve your team. That’s why I consider Soriano as well…if you can get him at a discount, then it gives you another talented player for additional depth.

This team does have a need for Thome…perhaps not as big a need as other things, but it’s not like he can’t be used.

This teams always needs more depth.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 11, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Well

the bigger issue is not so much that but just 25 man roster spots. Thome would be nice but then you need to overhaul your bench a bit. Plus, you need to make sure that Thome and Young are everyday players so you’re probably forced in to doing something with Moreland (i.e. everything Adam just said up top).

Unless you have a good plan about how to remedy that situation (by getting a RH CF platoon bat that isn’t horrible), then getting Thome adds somewhat of a headache.

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I have no confidence at all

that the payroll will see $110 million this offseason or the next one. Even two offseasons from now seems like a stretch…maybe if they make the playoffs both years.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

And draw eleventy billion fans.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, $110 million is...

…a given once Hamilton and CJ are extended. Ownership knows this…and despite this they have no PROBLEM testing out the Thome market.

You know, you can learn your lessons from the Hicks era, as you should…but you can’t leave your money in your pocket either, especially when the “tine” is now.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 11, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

This wouldn't be leaving money in their pockets

it would be loaning against the future.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

And BTW...

…“need” changes over time (and sometimes over a short time). I’ve always been a “best player available” kind of guy.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 11, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Which is why...

…you get screwed when you sign “need” guys like Chan Ho.

There is always a tendency to over-pay for need. At least with a guy like Thome, you aren’t inclined to overpay to get him…if you don’t think he’s worth it, you pass.

In short, nobody says you have to sign the BPA…but if he makes you better, and he gives you value, then you have to consider it.

by Bats and Balls on Jan 11, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

no you really don't

it’s about resource allocation to a certain position. If you already have filled your quota on lefty power bat/1b/dh types, it’s not worth it to go get one. It wouldn’t necessarily be overpaying to get Thome as his salary is probably worth his production but given the unique circumstances of the Rangers, the Rangers won’t realize the marginal benefits of the upgrade of Thome whereas they could realize full benefits of a Thames given what he would cost, our needs, and how we would use him.

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

The real Captain Winters from BOB

Died this week… THose WW2 guys are going fast now.

I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum.

by Tex Pantego on Jan 11, 2011 10:10 AM CST reply actions  

we're no spring chickens ourselves, mate.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

If we're swinging a trade for an NL central CFer

It probably makes a lot more sense to go after Drew Stubbs or Chris Heisey in Cincy. Looks like the Reds have been looking for a left-handed OFer to platoon with Johnny Gomes in left, and although they just signed Fred Lewis and Jeremy Hermida you’d think Murphy would be enough of an upgrade over those two to interest them.

Stubbs and Heisey look like similar players, both 25, both right-handed and both look like they’re pretty decent in defensively in CF. I imagine Cincy wouldn’t have a problem parting with one of them.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 10:11 AM CST reply actions  

.
d_a_cameron Going on ESPN Radio in Dallas at 10:45 central time. I think we’re going to talk about the Verizon iPhone. Or Adrian Beltre.

by Judy'sLewinsky on Jan 11, 2011 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

if it's so cold.....

Then why dat fool wearin’ a t-shirt?!

Fo reel, doh!!!!!

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

join the club.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I say

continue with what makes you happy. Don’t let people try and shame you into giving up your freedom of speech.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I totally read this in a british accent because of the title

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I read it as Dr. Phil

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh.

"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz

by AceJC on Jan 11, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I spent a good part of the day discussing these same issues

I thought about it some more last night.

Current Scenario
: Moreland as starting 1b, Young as starting DH. Murphy likely plays COF with Hamilton/Cruz DHing on the days that Young plays the infield. Room on the bench for a RHB in CF.
 - Bench: Murphy, Blanco, Treanor, RHB OF
 - LHB starting against LHP: Hamilton and either Moreland or Murphy.

If you sign Thome, you have a few different options:

Option A: Trade Murphy, make Moreland backup 1b/LF/RF, pencil Moreland in for about 300 ABs (the days that Thome sits). On the days that Moreland plays and Thome sits, Moreland would play the field, and the DH spot would go to guys like Hamilton, Cruz, Young, and Kinsler.
 - Bench: Moreland, Blanco, Treanor, RHB OF.
 - LHB starting against LHP: Hamilton and either Thome or Moreland.

Option B: Keep Murphy, send Moreland to AAA. Young would be the everyday 1b, and Murphy would take those 300 ABs on the days that Thome sits. When Murphy plays, Hamilton or Cruz would DH.
 - Bench: Murphy, Blanco, Treanor, RHB OF.
 - LHB starting against LHP: Hamilton and either Thome or Murphy.

Option C: Keep Murphy and Moreland. Use Young as primary 1b and backup IF at all four positions.
 - Bench: Murphy, Moreland, Treanor, RHB OF.
 - LHB starting against LHP: Hamilton and one of Thome, Murphy, and Moreland.

Option D: Keep Muprhy and Moreland. Use Hamilton as backup CF.
 - Bench: Murphy, Moreland, Treanor, Blanco.
 - LHB starting against LHP: Hamilton and two of Murphy, Moreland, Borbon, and Thome.

by cstorm15 on Jan 11, 2011 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

So...

how fucked up is it that Westboro Baptist Church plans on raiding Dallas Green’s grand-daughters funeral?

So disgusting.

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 11, 2011 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

Very

Very.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Fuck those lunatic bastards.

They give humanity a bad name.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I see a violent end in those fuckers' future

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

The sooner the better.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Jan 11, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That is just going to be a bad situation.

Hopefully things do not get out of control.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

What's the basis this time?

They usually do soldier’s funerals over some crap about defending a country with gays.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Jan 11, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Why even post about it?

Ignoring them is clearly the best option.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Why?

You’re not making any sense.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Memefied.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

It is kind of funny that you're the indignant one about hate speech

When you have documented problems with Indians and homosexuals.

by brettgardner on Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Why?

He’s not making any sense.

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 11, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I love how you try and pretend like that never happened. It's cute.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't.

I just choose not to bring it up, but you break a hip sprinting to your keyboard trying to get in a pot-shot at me all the time.

Don’t act like you’ve never had outbursts.

Weren’t you the same person who said he verbally beats his wife?

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 11, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

This is awesome...

laughing your ass off at your own posts where you make shit up is fantastic Sharky.

Keep it up, maybe you can talk about it on your next radio show.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Um, New Years Resolution thread..

Go look it up again. Your resolution, not mine. If you were nicer to your wife, you’d be nicer to other people.

I don’t have a radio show, old man. I like how you think this disdain is a two-way street. Only one person here has a problem. You, sir.

Good day.

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 11, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes...

saying I want to argue less with my wife = verbally beating her. My goodness you’re a smart little boy aren’t you?

You should just embrace your ignorance and inner bigot and be done with it.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL!

If you say half of the things to her as you say here, i’m pretty sure her divorce lawyer is already writing up the divorce papers as we speak, old man.

:-)

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 11, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Arguing and verbal abuse aren't the same thing.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

My girl gets butthurt any time

we disagree. If I have a different opinion I am automatically in the wrong and a dick… damn crazy latinas

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe you should try the vagina.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

But its not as warm

It is 4 degrees cooler
/Tool

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

So you verbally beat her too!

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

There you go laughing at your own stuff again...

and I’m sure you’re the expert on marriage and women, right?

I’m willing to bet that you’ve never even seen a woman’s lady parts, have you? Maybe one day you will.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

You're such a colossal dumbass...

it’s hard for me to imagine someone can be as stupid as you are.

The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something.

LOL!

ROFLMAO!

LOLERZ!

Ugh.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a big fan of the Oklahoma toll road system.

But that’s not the Native Americans’ fault.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Is it the gay Native Americans' fault?

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I hadn't considered it.

I doubt it, though. How many can there be?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing their population is high enough that it would regress to the national average

But I could be wrong on both ends of that.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Take an antacid.

Probably the steak you had for breakfast affecting you.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Well that could be the problem.

You need a well-balanced diet, TLTQ.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

You are much more productive at breakfast

then I am

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Go against your heart

it’s just a muscle and can be ripped out.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

by Texas Jihad on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Second best.

AK-47 would be the best option.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe he meant short of wholesale slaughter.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

wave of mutilation always works in my book.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know that the best response

hasn’t already happened.

NSFW? Maybe, I dunno.

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

You could watch the Onion news, at least.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I listen to NPR radio news and read papers.

TV news stations are biased and get ratings based on using shock value aimed at specific target audiences. FOX news and MSNBC are both unwatchable to me.

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Yet NPR is a bastion of unbiased reporting.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

nope, there is no such thing

Just easy to listen to it in the car for 10 minutes to and from work.

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Well sure. You just listed polar opposites that are known to be as politically-charged as they come.

It’s not like those are the only two options.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Why the fuck

are they doing that?

LSB memetarded.

by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 11, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what they do

They pretty much do nothing else.

Why is is so surprising?

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

They're perverts.

They get pleasure out of being cruel to the grieving.

by Vooty on Jan 11, 2011 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Moreland and Thome

are going to hit against left handed pitching.

Moreland had less than a couple hundred ABs last year. Not ready to right him off as an everyday guy yet.

Thome will have 600 homeruns. Don’t think he would have gotten there without hitting lefties.

I understand splits but they are way overused. I think there place in the game is for pinch hitting late in the game, not starting lineups….

by corbsclinton on Jan 11, 2011 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

yep

20 ABs for Moreland against Lefties. He hit .200. 1 more hit would have made him a .250 hitter and nobody talks about it. SSS is ridiculous. Moreland has consistently hit lefties as well as he’s hit righties throughout his pro career.

Thome, on the other hand, should not be a full-time player. He’s too old and injury prone. Batting him solely against RHs will limit his plate appearances and keep him healthy for longer.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Come on

Let’s not pretend that if Moreland has one more hit yesterday, then no one would say that Moreland should sit against lefties.

That’s ridiculous.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I've seen articles referring to him not being able to hit lefties or platooning him

he doesn’t need to be platooned, and has much better splits than that of Smoak and Davis but people tend to lump him in the same category.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

There are a couple of different issues here

First of all, he may need to be platooned, he may not. I don’t think you can definitively say right now that he doesn’t need to be platooned.

Secondly, though, if he and Thome and Murphy are all going to be part-time players, it presents a problem because they are all lefthanded, which means that against a LHP, at least one of them is going to be playing. This is exacerbated by the fact that you’ve got Julio Borbon in CF, and you probably want to sit him fairly often against lefties.

Having all those guys be lefthanded is problematic.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree about that many lefties on your bench

is problematic, but I don’t think Moreland needs to sit against Lefties. His history, at least in the minors along with his swing suggest that he can hit lefties.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

+1 on the lefties on the bench

but Murphy has had his share of coming up big against lefties and knows how to work a count regardless of what arm the pitcher is throwing with.

by corbsclinton on Jan 11, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

But that's a problem with the current lineup too.

Right now, either Moreland or Murphy will start against lefties. The only difference would be substituting Thome for either Moreland or Murphy.

Of course, that assumes that if Thome is signed, either Muprhy is traded or Moreland goes to AAA. Otherwise, signing Thome also costs you a RHB OF on your bench.

by cstorm15 on Jan 11, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

would you rather have Thome or a Hairston brother?

I’d prefer not deciding the bench bat by excluding the left hand hitters cause you have too many. I’d rather have the best bat regardlesss

by corbsclinton on Jan 11, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind trading Murphy

but I also wouldn’t mind if Murphy and Moreland are playing against lefties. Murphy did come up with some big hits on occasion against lefties.

our lineup is pretty solid even without Thome, especially against lefties, so I don’t even see how all this is an issue.

We have Andrus, Kinsler, Young, Cruz, Beltre, Torrealba as righties. I’m not going to be that upset with the three players of Hamilton, Murphy and Moreland hutting against lefties.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

x

hutting hitting

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

and a lot of that because people were using his ML plate appearances against lefties

which is pretty skewing considering the SSS

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you poo-pooing the prodigious percentages of the pinchitter's penalty, pugilist?

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Now THAT's some alliteration......

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jan 11, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh

That photo always cracks me up. Our company president looks a bit like a taller version of that guy, and he’s always walking around the office with a headset on. I keep expecting him to tell us all, “you’re gonna love my nuts.”

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 11, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

That made me laugh a lot.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

My first thought when I heard about Thome was "Moreland will be traded".

So, this possibility came to mind:

Padres could use a young 1B. Moreland, frankfrankkkkk for Heath Bell and a low-level, high-upside prospect.

I still have the Danks dream: Holland, frankfrankkkkk, Erlin for Danks, but that has nothing to do with Thome.

Godspeed Mike Olt.

by rooster on Jan 11, 2011 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

OT - Michigan fans can now hit the panic button.....
PeterBurnsRadio Peter Burns
 by FantasyFreaks
Jordy Hultberg is reporting that Les Miles is staying at #LSU. That’s good enough for me. Jordy trusted source.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:09 AM CST reply actions  

i really believe patterson isnt going anywhere...

… although he cant stay at TCU forever… i think he would be better off going to a historic powerhouse and trying his hand there.

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 11, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Why can't he stay at TCU?

They’re in a AQC now and he paid like a top coach. And they win.

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

they're not an AQ school till 2012, sir.

One more year in the MWC.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

GP will only leave

if he can take his entire staff to his next job. He was offered the Auburn job before Chizik but said no when they balked at him bringing the entire staff. He was offered the Washington job before Sarkisian but said no when his assistants voted they didn’t want to go there.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

That's pretty cool.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 11, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

How much more historic

is there than Michigan? They are the all-time winningest program in college football. That statement confuses me…

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

heh.

I hate people trying to use “history” and “tradition” to try and sell CFB programs. How well has that worked for Notre Dame lately? Michigan?

Money is what sells CFB programs now, not effing history or tradition.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Bottom line is:

The more “historic” the program is, the most unreasonable the expectations will be for an incoming coach.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

no, but their expectations aren't based on "what have you done for me lately"

at least TCU has shown patience where Michigan and ND want a first year coach to go BCS or bust.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, yes. Here's the Top 30 Football Program budgets in D-1, according to the Department of Education's Equity in Athletics Report.

1Ohio State University-Main Campus $31,763,036.00
2 The University of Alabama $31,118,134.00
3 University of Notre Dame $29,490,788.00
4 Auburn University Main Campus $27,911,713.00
5 Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College $25,566,520.00
6 The University of Texas at Austin $25,112,331.00
7 University of Florida $24,457,557.00
8 University of South Carolina-Columbia $22,794,211.00
9 University of Wisconsin-Madison $22,041,491.00
10 University of Arkansas $22,005,104.00
11 University of Southern California $20,820,468.00
12 Texas Christian University $20,609,361.00
13 University of Oklahoma Norman Campus $20,150,769.00
14 Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus $19,780,939.00
15 Rutgers University-New Brunswick $19,494,263.00
16 University of Washington-Seattle Campus $19,207,560.00
17 University of California-Berkeley $18,519,523.00
18 University of Iowa $18,468,732.00
19 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $18,328,233.00
20 University of Georgia $18,308,654.00
21 University of Oregon $18,071,012.00
22 Arizona State University $17,977,987.00
23 Boston College $17,973,705.00
24 University of Miami $17,863,218.00
25 University of Nebraska-Lincoln $17,843,849.00
26 Michigan State University $17,468,458.00
27 University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus $17,441,032.00
28 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities $17,433,699.00
29 The University of Tennessee $17,357,345.00
30 Stanford University $17,236,945.00

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

That's for 2009-2010

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Does that not include whatever portion of the renovation was attributed to the budget in this fiscal year?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure. Got the charts from Spit Blood TCU's site.

The stadium announcement was back on August 17th, so I’ll have to check the breakdown.

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Just curious about it.

But I do think it’s pretty fallacious to use that list to say that TCU has more money for football than Michigan does. The fact that Michigan didn’t spend as much this year doesn’t mean they don’t have as much to spend.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I said it earlier, but the fact that they were able to raise $105 million

from only 34 donors, 18 months ahead of schedule, is pretty damn impressive. I think it shows that people have money and are willing to give back.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

True, but it doesn't show anything about how much you have relative to anyone else.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point.

The story about A&M’s athletic department being short on cash was shocking to me. They’ve got over 400k living alumni. You’d think they would be printing their own money.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Well it's more that the discrepancy between a school like TCU and a traditional power isn't what people think it is.

Do UT/tOSU/traditional power schools typically spend more? Sure. But certain schools can pony up money and keep up with facilities and stadiums and everything that helps with recruiting and building a national profile.

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, the fact that you spend money does not in any way relate to other schools spending money.

You cannot possibly draw any comparative conclusions from data solely about TCU unless someone, somewhere said “X school spends Y dollars, which is Y more than TCU spends because TCU spends zero.”

Then you could draw comparative conclusions.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

my statement?

i was saying michigan is a historic powerhouse.. no confusion there.. we agree ASL

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 11, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

He just signed an extension. I think it would be very Kiffin of him to bolt now.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

He just got an extension

He is a top 5 paid coach in college football, he just got a new $145 million stadium, he just won the Rose Bowl… He is at a top 50 university…

I think he would only leave if he could go to the NFL. And I don’t see that happening any time soon.

His kids are here, his wife is from FTW, he gets paid handsomely and has everything a coach wants… Makes no sense to leave.

by FormerLSBUser on Jan 11, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Everything a coach wants except a big program.

I think it’s absurdly naive to say that TCU offers a head football coach “everything a coach wants.”

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

What he really has

is the knowledge that he is bigger than the administration. He has done so much for the football program that a down year here and there will be tolerated and even if they wanted to get rid of him, they wouldn’t have the power to do so. Patterson was effected greatly by a conversation with Fran about how when things got bad at A&M and Alabama, Fran couldn’t even leave the house for fear of insults etc. GP is not real interested in getting involved in something like that…

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

You TCU people are fooling yourselves.
GP is not real interested in getting involved in something like that…

That is nothing more than something you all say to yourselves to make yourselves feel better about his odds of sticking, trust me. I’ve been there with Billy Clyde Gillispie. With the right job, GP is gone, period. TCU is not a top 5, 10, or 15 job.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh here we go.

I agree with your general premise, but they’re not going to like this one bit.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Eh

It mirrors almost exactly what us Aggies were telling ourselves about Billy Clyde. Almost identically.

“Billy is in a huge basketball conference!”

“Billy is paid handsomely!”

“Aggies can make deep runs in the NCAA!”

“Billy wouldn’t like the added pressure of Kentucky!”

Oops. In the end, it worked out well – Turgeon is even better.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

That's something that came out of his mouth directly

I didn’t make it up to make myself feel better. I just said above he was gone to Auburn or Washington 2 years ago if things had fallen in place correctly.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Did you expect him to say something different?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Uh huh.

Which is something Billy Clyde used to say, too.

You do realize that every single coach always says how much they love their job? Right until they take the next one.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

So what?

Gillispie had instant success at A&M and he only got better there. No down years, period.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

So he could be more ingrained with the institution.

I generally agree with your point, but I don’t think Gillespie is a fair comp.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Jan 11, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying Gillispie is a comp for GP.

I’m saying the TCU people’s statements to the effect that TCU is the best job for GP and GP loves TCU most is identical to what Aggies were saying about Gillispie.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I actually said

GP loves the circumstances and the situation presently presented to him at TCU. I also said if things had gone correctly, he would have left 2 years ago. You guys are painting my opinion with too broad a stroke…

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Look

I have no doubt GP loves TCU. No doubt. But to say he was presented with an opportunity to leave, didn’t take it, and wouldn’t take any other job in the country, for a variety of reasons, is just plain stupid. TCU is not that good of a job.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude

I never said he wouldn’t take any job. In fact, down below if UT offers, he is gone. I’m simply telling you his thought process straight from the horses mouth.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

His thought process?

Nobody knows his thought process, that’s the point… All you have are fans’ rhetoric to cling to, which isn’t worth much at all. You can say he loves TCU all you want, and although that may be true, saying ridiculous things like TCU has as much to offer GP than any other school in the country is just silly.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I never said that

In fact, I said it has less which he enjoys. He is the most powerful figure on the campus of TCU publicly. He has outlasted 2 or 3 AD’s. Why are you determined to put words in my mouth?

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm condensing your BS into a simple phrase.

You do think that TCU is on par with any school in the country for Gary Patterson’s unique needs/wants. You absolutely do think that.

I’m not quoting you when I type that. Putting it in quotes would be “put[ting] words in [your] mouth.”

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think that

I never said I think that. You are confusing me with PMP. I said right now GP feels TCU offers him the best situation. That is of course fluid and likely to change at any moment. GP however is very dug in on what he wants and will most likely not give in on those demands. See how I can speak not using absolutes. Try it some time.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

He didn't say it publicly

he said it in private. It’s pointless to argue this. I know what he said in a private setting with no reporters around etc. Take it how you will.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Uh huh.

You do realize that every single coach always says how much they love their job? Right until they take the next one.

And I suppose you have some sort of source in Cleveland that was present for this private announcement by GP that he loves TCU the most? Puh-lease.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Public or private is irrelevant, he said it where people could hear, obviously.

And the people he said it to are the exact same people he would want to believe it.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Leaked to the public by the same staff that all want to be seen as loyal. Oh Kay.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say telling me at lunch

is leaking it to the public. Public usually entails more than 1 person.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

And here we are.

So you’re the leak.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

And that proves...

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Gillespie stung you more than us other Aggies.

Yeah, i was mad, but I’ve let it go.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh I have too. I love Mark Turgeon. Love the dude. We are undoubtedly better off.

I’m just saying, ASL and and PMP’s delusion mirrors almost exactly what most Aggies were saying about Billy Clyde years ago.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

And Bama about Franchione.

And WV about RichRod. And so on and so on.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

What about

Stoops who is rumored all the time and never leaves OU. Or Peterson continuing to stay at Boise. Just because the town drunk Billy Clyde bolted doesn’t mean every coach in America is lying when they say they like their job.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

You are the bitter one

you keep bringing up Gillepsie leaving over and over again like you are still hurt to this day. I am not like PMP. I would not be surprised if GP left. I just know it will ahve to be for a very specific situation in a very specific place.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm bitter about what?

Gillispie? How so?

I’m simply saying Aggie fans’ rhetoric around the end of Gillispie’s time at A&M mirrors your rhetoric to a motherfucking tee. It’s pathetic that you actually believe what you are saying about TCU and Patterson.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

It's pathetic

that you ignore everything in my posts other than what you want to see. I listed a set of circumstances that GP is looking for before he jumps ship. If you don’t want to believe that, fine.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Midget wrestling on LSB happening

before our eyes!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I was referencing you

stating that my belief was pathetic.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Again

What on earth does that have to do with your statement that you think I’m bitter about Billy Gillispie?

I am extremely happy with Mark Turgeon and would never go back, even if the opportunity were presented to us.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

You are using

the Billy Clyde episode as if it is a be all end all in regards to coaches telling the truth about things.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy fucking shit.

Read carefully:

I am not comparing Gillispie and Patterson.

I am comparing you to idiot Aggie fans around when Gillispie left A&M.

They were dumb. You are being dumb. You are all alike. None of this has anything to do with Gary Patterson’s decision making process or Gillispie’s. It has everything to do with you making ridiculous statements about how awesome TCU’s job as head football coach is.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Somebody just came off the turnbuckle!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

You don't know what a turnbuckle is?

They still have those in wrestling, don’t they?

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Two LSB midgets were wrestling

and one of them jumped off the turnbuckle.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

the rhetoric is actually quite different

Patterson has ties to Fort Worth. He has a history there. Gillespie never had that.

Yes, they both experienced success, but Patterson has taken TCU to #2 in the country as a non-AQ. He’ll be in the weakest BCS conference in 2 seasons, where he can make BCS bowl after BCS bowl just by losing 2-3 games a year and still winning the conference, and if they are good enough to go undefeated in a season, they’ll get their National Championship opportunity so long as there aren’t a slew of other undefeated BCS teams. Hell, TCU’s non-conference schedule may elevate them over some of those other teams anyways with matchups against Arkansas, Oklahoma, and LSU already lined up in coming years.

That’s not happening in any other BCS conference.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jan 11, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

And his TCU fanbase will love him perpetually.

But still be relatively small and considered less significant on the national level.

Whereas if he takes a school like Michigan or Texas to the Promised Land, he will be a CFB god.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

like Les Miles?

I’ve always said TCU is trying to model themselves after Miami (without the thuggery). Miami has some advantages and always will (the reputation and geography), but there are some similarities as well (school size, rising from the dead).

They’re still a long ways off, but getting into multiple BCS bowls in the near future where TCU would no longer be considered a non-AQ or even the “new guy” would be a big step towards that direction.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jan 11, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not comparing Gillispie to Patterson.

Not at all. I’m comparing Aggie fans to TCU fans. The rhetoric coming from everyone in similar situations is almost identical.

Whatever that means based on Patterson’s history with the school is irrelevant. I’m not saying Patterson is or is not about to leave, nor am I suggesting which school he will leave for. I am just saying that TCU fans are acting almost identically to the way Aggie fans were acting a few years ago about Gillispie.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

and i'm saying the rhetoric is different

A&M fans said that their program gave Gillispie everything he could want.

TCU fans are saying that Patterson’s not leaving unless it’s the perfect situation because of his tenure, ties to Fort Worth and Texas, and unprecedented success as a non-AQ.

As a TCU fan, I’d only be nervous about a few positions opening up (Texas being one of them), but I still think it wouldn’t be an obvious decision for him.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jan 11, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Nobody said they were.

You can love your job and leave it for another. You can be fully dedicated to your school until another comes calling.

You’re talking about one of the most volatile employment situations in the country, bar none. Coaches who win 10 games for 10 years are suddenly “on the hot seat” because of one down year and turnover in staff (see Brown, Mack). Coaches who come in and don’t win immediately aren’t even given the chance to see their first recruits start their senior years.

There is nothing inconsistent about Patterson saying “I love TCU and want to be here forever” and then leaving if he gets what he thinks is a better offer. And there is nothing about that scenario that is out of the question.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn't say there is

in fact I said he was close too taking 2 jobs 2 years ago. You guys are so intent on proving me wrong you ignore what I say.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

If Michigan calls

and says you can bring your entire staff and his entire staff agrees to go and he gets other assurances like the AD won’t sit in the office and watch film with him like Brannon did to Rich Rod than there is a better than 50% chance he goes.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe.

Or maybe he goes anyways. Whatever GP is saying in public has zero bearing on his decision making process for a program like Michigan.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not in public

why can’t you understand that? Seriously.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok Miles.

You also understand that you are a meaningless member of the public, right? Things said to you by coaches is going to be guarded and political.

Why can’t you understand that? Seriously.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Again with the other posters insult

Sad that you guys always resort to that. And that you take this site so seriously you expect others to feel hurt by such an insult.

I am meaningless. However, the person who told me these things was on staff at the time and not meaningless.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Which makes the comments he made to you even less believeable.

If you think it’s insulting to be compared to Miles, then that’s your problem.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

You used it as an insult genius

How does that make them less believable to relate anecdotes about his time on the TCU football staff. By that reasonzing, every documentary I see or story I hear is meaningless, a lie, and unbelievable because I am the public and those people no longer have ties to the subject.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Boy you are bad at logic.

The more important the coach talking to the more meaningless the person makes whatever he said less believeable. He is going to tell you how much he adores TCU and will never leave. You are nobody.

My comparison to Miles wasn’t an insult – it was that you have these “sources” with insider info. It’s funny, get over it.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

So a guy

who worked on GP’s staff for 2 years, sat in every meeting, met personally with him in his office etc. should not be believed. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

What does that mean?

Are you insinuating I can’t possibly coach with a guy who was on the TCU staff or that he just made up all these anecdotes?

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Go search through his posts on his sources in Cleveland (was it?).

You may stop being such a butthurt ass if you knew what I was referring to. I find it pretty amusing, myself!

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we've lost sight of what we're really talking about.

I don’t think that GP lied if he told your friend those things. I don’t think that they are unbelievable. They are believable inside the context in which they were said, which has to take into consideration audience, other opportunities, and GP’s thoughts at that particular moment in time.

You’re acting as though GP saying “I’m happy at TCU” means he will be happy there forever. You yourself admitted that he’s considered leaving twice. Why is outside the realm of possibility that he would consider it again?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not

I’ve already said that multiple times but FP refuses to acknowledge it because it doesn’t fit his agenda. He speaks in absolutes so gray area confuses him.

If UT offers, GP is gone. If LSU opens and they offer, GP is probably gone. My orginal point is GP wants to take his entire staff with him. That is a huge sticking point for him and he is very unlikely to leave if that condition isn’t met.

This is also why I am glad Fuente stayed because I understand GP won’t be here forever and I think he would be a good replacement.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I have not misquoted or misunderstood one word you have said.

I don’t have an agenda whatsoever. You’re just being silly and butthurt, as usual.

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

You are ridiculous

Even though I’ve listed places GP would leave for, I am nieve and believe he won’t ever leave. That is some impressive work by you.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's less likely because of the increased respect the school has gotten

over the years. And if he is getting paid 3 million, it lowers the number of schools that will be willing to pay him significantly more than that.

TCU, among teams that made a bowl game, was in the top 10 for their football athletic budget. They would be #11 if UT had made a bowl.

They’ve got the money. The boosters raised money for the stadium renovation 18 months early.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

if the money is the reason that Patterson leaves

i don’t think he’ll leave. Like you said, those boosters raised $100M all by themselves for the stadium.

You are being naive if you think they wouldn’t throw an extra couple million together to give Patterson a raise into the elite of the elite CFB coaches pay scale.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jan 11, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

What.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It's his alma mater.

They’ve been the only school that’s had real rumors about him leaving TCU to go there.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

They've offered him the job before.

If they go undefeated in the Big East and are still in the same position, I can see him wanting to go to the Big 12.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

UT

he’s gone. If Miles leaves, LSU scares me.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

God, GP with Texas recruits?

Would they ever lose?

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

Contrary to your opinion, GP is not the greatest coach in the history of the Earth.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I was joking there. I don't think GP is the best college

coach in the country. It’s something impossible to prove. He’s an elite coach. I was just thinking among the defensive terms.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes every team loses at some point.

Can’t be on top forever.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

He already said no to K State a few years ago.

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but if TCU goes through an extended lull

I could see him leaving then.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 11, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

That could happen. But I just don't see it as likely, with the wide open Big East, and a mostly happy staff in place.

I just see him finally breaking through and getting better and better recruits to come in and check out TCU. Patterson’s staff seems to be on the cusp of getting into recruits living rooms who would have thrown a TCU offer in the trash 20, 10, 5, hell even 2 years ago.

"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"

by Maximilian on Jan 11, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably closer to 80%.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't think so, but it's just my opinion

i thnk he likes the region and wouldn’t want to bury all of his recruiting ties to the area.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jan 11, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Gary Patterson is four parts Jesus, six parts Lombardi.

And he only has five parts to begin with.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

As a Texas fan

I hope he is the next Longhorn coach in 2 years (after Mac gives it 2 more years and only has medicore results) UT calls his name, money whips him (makes him highest paid college coach) and he heads to Austin to start the 2013 season.

As a football fan, i hope he stays at TCU for 10 years and just continues to improve that program. IMO, Gary Paterson is the best football coach in the country. To get those results from that program, which does not get quite the talent the top 10 programs do, is amazing.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jan 11, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

If Texas offered

he would leave. He was mad when Muschamp was named Head coach in waiting.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Top 5 paid coach?

I’d like to see the proof on that.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Me too.

It has to be Saban/Urban/Stoops/Mack and…?

by FuturePants on Jan 11, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Not Urban now.

Saban/Stoops/Mack/Tressel/Miles.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Ferentz at Iowa is up there, I'd imagine.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

He is

1. Brown
2. Stoops
3. Saban
4. Miles
5. Tressell
6. Richt
7. Ferentz

If TCU really raised GP’s salary to 3 million as reported, he would fall into the 8-10 range.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

TCU is the only real guess on the list, unless you're talking about non-salary compensation.

The other schools are all state schools that have to report. TCU can say or not say whatever they want.

Supposedly Art Briles makes $2.8 million at Baylor, but I don’t believe that for a fucking second.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

I thought he signed on for $1.8 or some such. I had heard he got a raise, I didn’t realize it was that much. I thought it was $2.4 or something.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Just a rumor I heard bandied about.

It’s probably in the $2.2 range with incentives.

I hope what we’re supposedly paying Bennett is true, though. It would be an assistant coach’s salary we’ve never gotten close to before.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Fantastic.

I’m going to listen to that interview now.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

It's hard to get a good read

on what is true. I found that on a quick google search. Every site seems to have different numbers based on how they calculate the final earnings…

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

So he makes more in personal endorsements than any other coach in the country?

That’s what you’re telling me?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

And you know what every coach in the country makes in endorsements?

If you could open TCU’s book and calculate total package for GP per year, he is in the top 5.

I include things such as housing fees, jet and car rental, travel comps ect. in that extra endorsement pile, not just for instance a $200,000 per year endorsement from Nike.

by FormerLSBUser on Jan 11, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you even realize how hypocritical of a statement this is?

So YOU know what ever coach in the country makes in endorsements now?

Why is it so important that Patterson is top five?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Not off the top of my head, but our office has an accurate breakdown of salaries, bonuses and total comp. adjusted numbers.

And I can tell you with his most recent extension Patterson is top 5, but you are right that it doesn’t matter at all except that to say he wouldn’t leave TCU on the basis of pay.

by FormerLSBUser on Jan 11, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

TCU a top 50 university?

According to ?

Not that they are the definitive source, but USNWR has TCU at 99. Though there’s some variance from year to year (this is the lowest I’ve seen them), I’ve never seen them in the Top 50.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

That's not the only thing that jumps out here.

Patterson winning the Rose Bowl is not a reason for him to stay at TCU, if anything it maximizes his value if he decides to jump to somewhere else.

And I like that it is presented as though TCU is getting an entirely new stadium rather than just rebuilding the one they have. If we sunk money into FCS like that, I wouldn’t say it was Baylor’s new stadium. It was a renovation of the old.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

The entire structure was taken to the ground and is being built totally anew... New pillars an pilot holes... I say that is new...

I like how people on here who aren’t even TCU alums say they “know” Patterson would leave, like they are besties with him.

Take is from someone who, I promise you, has had this conversation in the TCU Athletics office more times than I care to remember… He is only leaving under a couple situations, and one is NOT Michigan, even with full staff…

Texas he would consider, but I don’t think Texas would offer it to him.

by FormerLSBUser on Jan 11, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I have heard he would leave TCU

only for the Texas job, if and when it becomes available.

by motorcyclegreggo on Jan 11, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Brady Hoke

come on down. You’re the next contestant…

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Jan 11, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, probably...

not sure why Miles would turn that down though, hasn’t he been on the hot seat with LSU here recently? And don’t the fans in Baton Rouge kinda hate the guy?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

x
DKnobler DKnobler
by NewbergReport
As others have reported, Rangers want Thome. But Rangers concerned that Thome would prefer return to Twins.

by octoberty on Jan 11, 2011 11:17 AM CST reply actions  

The good news is the Twins really have no full-time role to offer him.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 11, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

they lose Kubel after 2011, too.

Gotta make a choice.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Neither do we????

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jan 11, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Seems right

I don’t know why Thome would rock the boat. Seems like he had a good thing with the Twins. Of course, if the Twins keep low-balling…

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe this will have them take a closer look at Manny

didnt they say there was interest last year when he was going through waivers?

by eric03tx on Jan 11, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

The more I looked at Thome

the more ManRam made sense to me. Nothing wrong with Thome, and I won’t be upset to have him, it’s just that we could really use a RH big bat rather than a LH one. Unless you place undue emphasis on last year’s stats, I just think ManRam is the better fit.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 11, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

x
BtBScore Beyond the Box Score
Who’s Got Minor League Depth At Shortstop? http://sbn.to/emTUZ7

by octoberty on Jan 11, 2011 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

Neat!

And add in Rougy to that list in a year (although really he’ll just be replacing Sardinas).

Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?

by Keynes on Jan 11, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Something pretty big

The Rangers’ guys on that list are pure shortstops. A whole lot of the others aren’t.

by Brett Perryman on Jan 11, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Random question

What does it mean when a SS eventually moves to 2B instead of 3B? Like how do they end up making that decision? Is it determined strictly by defense? It seems to me that all of these prospects that start out as SS should be moving to 2B more often than 3B

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

From my recollection of the scouting reports where it's happened

It seems like every time a guy moves from SS to 3B it is because he “grew out of the position,” ie. got too big and lost range.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

but it seems weird that people grow so big that they can’t even play 2B. I think you can get away with some decreased range at 2b. I just think about Kinsler or that old Alomar scouting report and wonder why bad defense moves you straight to 3B and not 2b

by ab03 on Jan 11, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably a result of 1B being considered poor at defense almost universally.

You need better defense at 2B to overcome your 1B being bad.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Most 2B are quite small.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 11, 2011 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Ot - Programming Note

Jeff Bridges: The Dude Abides airs on PBS tomorrow night. A must watch for JB fans.

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

rad

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 11, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

With Thome...

I think the idea would have to be that MY would play basically full time at 1B, and Moreland would be part time… Dont know if that is ideal.

by FormerLSBUser on Jan 11, 2011 11:22 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah. I'm really becoming convinced that the Rangers are thinking outside the box on Thome...

and, this push for Thome is arising out of a possible Moreland trade more than anything else.

Moreland for Bell
Thome for 1B
MY for DH/UIF

Godspeed Mike Olt.

by rooster on Jan 11, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Two years from now, who's going to be left?

I hope Young/Thome are perpetual First Basemen for the Rangers. Otherwise, we’re right back to “OMG WE DON’T HAVE A 1B/C

by Perfect Zero on Jan 11, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

35 Conferette

Adds Cut Chemist and John Grant of The Czars

by jam0152 on Jan 11, 2011 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

Funny picture from Andy Gray

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

I think Willie Horton is in the middle of that fight and wanna say DPorter from KC

was also in the mix. Happened late May ’77, I think.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 11, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Ya it was 77.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 11, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

OT: Hey Aquaman, did you ever get to try out Liang's in Tyler?

I’m sitting here counting the minutes til lunch break. Food on the brain, ya know?

Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.

by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 11, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

Only took LSUFreek a matter of time. Love his work.....

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

by the way

I’m surprised you would say TCU instead of Stanford.

Why TCU now?

"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban

by Longhorn on Jan 11, 2011 12:23 PM CST reply actions  

who?

me?

Whatchoo talkin bout, Willis?

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Jan 11, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

x
@GreggHenson
GreggHenson
 According to sources in Dallas Josh Hamilton is at the Arlington Memorial hospital for respiratory problems.

Hi, my name is Josey Wales and I'm a douche. Prove me wrong.

by boomer1 on Jan 11, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

Holy shit!

Hopefully it is just some allergy problem or something minor.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 11, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

x
@cbs11news
cbs11news D/FW
 BREAKING: Josh Hamilton hospitalized with “early pneumonia-like” symptoms: http://bit.ly/hwsbSR #dfwnews

Hi, my name is Josey Wales and I'm a douche. Prove me wrong.

by boomer1 on Jan 11, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Someone call Mike Olt.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 11, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Moreland, Murphy, played themselves into the lineup, now for no good reason they get to sit on the end of the bench?

by dsciswe on Jan 11, 2011 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

Not enough RBIs to convert to wins.

Damn shame too.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 11, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Thome has TONS of rbis in his career.

Must be one hell of a player.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 11, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Texas Rangers.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Hong_kong_small
OT: UEFA Euro 2012 Thread
Small
Ranger Rowdy Time!
Bc0nc_small
Minors Thread: Mid-Late May

Recent FanPosts

Neftali_old_timey_small
You should be at the lake - Memorial Day OT
Macho_man_randy_savage_small
Sunday OT
Small
Loking for Batters' Eye Club 7/24 or 25
Small
Texas Rangers: 2012 Community Mock Draft Picks
Macho_man_randy_savage_small
Saturday OT
White_blackpool_icon_small
Draft Discussion
Small
MOD#6 - Rangers (2nd Round - 93rd Pick)
Andy_small
Afternoon OT Thread
Macho_man_randy_savage_small
5/25 OT 1
Neftali_old_timey_small
5/24/2012 OT 2

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Yahoo_full_count

Manager

Th_buckykatt_small Adam J. Morris

Editor

477845_small ghostofErikThompson

Author

Matchstick_small Brad