Saturday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 9:29 AM CST
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PrintAnthony Andro has some notes up in the S-T, that touch on a variety of items, including Clay Rapada being released and John Rhadigan likely taking over as the Rangers play-by-play man for television.
Kevin Sherrington has a column on Manny Ramirez which doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. First of all, he says that the only reason that the Rangers should consider signing Manny Ramirez is because he has 29 postseason home runs, and the Ranger offense "wilted" in the World Series.
That ignores, though, that the Rangers scored 59 runs in the 11 games of the ALDS and ALCS. The Rangers offensed "wilted" in the World Series, it seems, because they ran into a San Francisco Giants team whose pitching staff was performing at an unbelievably high level for a period of two months. Manny Ramirez being on the Rangers in October wouldn't have changed the results of the World Series.
Second, Sherrington says that the Rangers need to sign Ramirez because he could take over as DH if Nelson Cruz or Ian Kinsler or Josh Hamilton misses significant time because of injury. He acknowledges that David Murphy is already here to fill that role, but says that Murphy really doesn't work because Ron Washington is big on players who have a "presence" in the lineup.
So Sherrington seems to be arguing that the Rangers should sign someone like Manny, who wants a big check and to play every day, so that he can sit on the bench and wait for someone to get hurt, despite the fact that you've already got a very good fourth outfielder in David Murphy.
It just doesn't add up, to me.
Look, if your position is that the Rangers can't go into the season with Mitch Moreland as the everyday first baseman, that they need depth and he should start the season in AAA with someone more experienced and reliable as the DH or 1B, that's understandable.
But then the solution is to sign Manny or someone like that to be the DH, make him the everyday DH, make Michael Young the everyday first baseman, and go back to the situation we had last year where your DH is a guy who will never play the field. It means that you can't use the DH to rotate players in and out of the lineup, and it means making Young a regular 1B rather than the super-utility guy he's been pitched as since Adrian Beltre signed, but that trade-off is worthwhile if the player being signed is good enough.
But it doesn't make sense to say, well, we need depth, so we're going to pay a guy several million dollars to come to Texas, but he isn't going to play every day, and he isn't ever going to play in the field. And we need to sign him because we need depth, because if Nelson Cruz or someone gets hurt, then David Murphy would be in the starting lineup, and he's not good enough.
And it made even less sense when the guy filling that role was someone like Jim Thome, who was lefthanded, just like Mitch Moreland and David Murphy and Julio Borbon, the guys who are most likely to lose playing time to this part-time sort-of DH.
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I agree with you ADJ
The real need is a right handed bat, that platoons and plays against lefties. Manny is going to demand playing most of the time, mainly because the paycheck he is looking for.
Manny is better against righties than he is against lefties.
Platooning him wouldn’t make any sense.
He still hasn't been below a .363 wOBA against lefties in the last 3 years though
.371 last year, and .424 career (actually better than his .414 career mark against righties).
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
It's not that he has a big platoon split
It’s that he is a better hitter against LHP than players like Moreland, Borbon, etc are likely to be.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Still, if you're going to sign Manny, why not play him most days?
He’s better than Moreland against both LHP and RHP.
If he's productive, hell yeah play him.
Competition within the team is not a bad thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Yup.
Moreland becomes depth.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
I'd send him to AAA in that situation
If you’re going to have Manny as your everyday DH, you’ve already got one LH-hitting COF on the bench in Murphy.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Given the Garza rumors we heard this week
It seems like the Rangers view Moreland as more than AAA depth, but I agree with you … no reason for him to be here and ride the bench
Why offer Thome 4 million?
Moreland is going to start the year in AAA. They must want another big back and are willing to take a chance on Young learning 1st base. If Face can’t do it, then the issues will roll in. But heck, how hard can 1B be for Young?
"Purity of heart is to will one thing" - Kierkegaard
I'm fine with that.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Who is your CIF bench guy?
I imagine the bench is gonna be Catcher, UIF, COF, CIF.
Unless the team can get a good backup CF, and I don’t really see one obviously available, I don’t see much wrong with Moreland as a bench bat, backup 1B/OF. It’s not like he projects to be a big time 1B.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
If Manny gets 300+ plate appearances, there's still another 1000 plate
appearances to be divvied up between 1B & DH.
Bringing in Manny doesn’t mean Moreland isn’t going to play.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
CIF?
Blanco backs up 3B. I don’t see the need to have a lefty-hitting backup first baseman on the bench. Moreland as a “bench bat” doesn’t really add much value. I’d rather have a backup CF.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
It'd be nice to have a backup 1b, but not as important as a backup CF
Murphy could work at learning 1b this spring to backup Young, although that still means going into 2011 with two 1b who have never played the position before (Young and Murphy).
Murph did work at learning 1st on a road trip last season
It evidently went poorly, as it was never mentioned again.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I still don't see how people jump to that conclusion.
Why would you assume that it went poorly just because it was never mentioned again?
Except what happened
was Borbon was so craptastic with his bat that they needed Murphy as an everyday OF.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
don't get in the way of Dan's hatred of Judy, bigsteve.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Because that's
the obvious name for Borbon? Throws like a girl. Hits like a girl.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Jan 15, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hits like a "Punch & Judy" (when he's on fire).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
I'm pretty sure it was reported that it didn't work out
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
I'd really like to see that link
because I don’t recall that.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
This from Feb 8, 2010
Washington worked with Murphy on first base skills for much of the second half of the 2009 season, but the manager never got to the point he felt comfortable using Murphy over Chris Davis or Hank Blalock.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
welp, there we go.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Let's use the entire relevant passage:
There is another option for getting Murphy playing time: First base.
This should become a major spring project for Washington, who likes hands-on teaching opportunities. Washington worked with Murphy on first base skills for much of the second half of the 2009 season, but the manager never got to the point he felt comfortable using Murphy over Chris Davis or Hank Blalock. This year, Blalock is removed from the equation, so perhaps Murphy becomes more viable as a backup first baseman. But infielder Khalil Greene, a shortstop by trade, will also be learning to play first. Greene is a right-handed hitter, which you would think would make him the more natural backup for the left-handed hitting Davis, who batted .189 with a .235 on-base percentage vs. lefties last year.
+Khalil
Really, how much more evidence do we need to come to a logical deduction?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Did you actually read the article?
EG is talking about backup 1b. The assumption is that both Greene and Murphy would be on the roster. EG said that Greene might make more sense because he’s a right-handed hitter. EG never compared or contrasted Greene and Murphy defensively.
You people are grasping at straws.
So other than the fact that you can do this on your video game
What evidence do you have that Murphy is capable of being passable at 1B because there hasn’t been any shown thus far
There's never been a time where we needed Murphy to play 1b, so we just don't know.
Murphy is fairly athletic and should be able to learn the position over the offseason. It’s the same thing we’re asking Young to do.
Bullshit
those 5 games Arias played there we needed Murphy to play there. if he wasn’t better than Arias then he cant fucking play the position.
You have absolutely no evidence that Murphy can play the position other than your personal belief when there have been reports that document that Murphy isn’t a viable option yet we are supposed to believe you? Gotcha
Where's the report that says Murphy isn't a viable option?
The Grant article suggests that Murphy could become a viable option.
I’m still waiting for this evidence that Murphy can’t play 1b.
Why do you keep bringing up Arias?
Arias played 5 games at 1b. Murphy started in LF or RF in 4 of those games.
There is absolutely no correlation between Arias starting at 1b and Murphy’s ability to play 1b.
For whatever reason...
…the organization appears to have decided that Murphy isn’t a 1B.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
There's no evidence of that.
This subject was discussed last Fall, and no one was able to produce any evidence then either.
Okay
I disagree, but whatever.
Whether or not Murphy could conceivably play the position, right now, I think there’s almost no chance the organization is going to put him there in anything other than an emergency situation.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
if Murphy was a viable option at 1B he would have played over Arias
May 20th: Borbon could have played CF so murphy played 1B instead of Arias
June 1st: Again Borbon could have played instead of sitting
June 7th: Cruz sat.
July 3rd: Murphy sat
July 9th: Borbon sat
if Murphy was a viable option for 1B he could have been used and the team would have been better off. but the fact they rolled out Arias at 1B, a guy who had never played 1B in his life up until earlier in 2010, shows they had absolutely no faith in Murphy and that Murphy was not a viable option to play the position
Wow, really?
Wash liked playing Arias for some strange reason. You and I probably agree that Arias had no business being on the roster, but he was, and Wash played him from time to time. It was stupid for Wash to play Arias period. How you can twist this into an indictment of Murphy’s ability to play 1b is beyond me.
Are you going to try and convince me that Blanco can’t play 2b or SS because Arias occassionally played those positions while Blanco was on the bench?
Your leaps in logic are astounding.
Do you really think
that anyone liked playing Arias over Murphy if Murphy was an option?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
I wish Arias wouldn't have been on the roster period
But the fact that Arias played isn’t an indictment of Murphy’s ability to play first just as it isn’t an indictment of Blanco’s ability to play 2b or SS.
Also an extremely SSS on Moreland
I think he’s going to be a very productive player, minor league stats don’t blow you away, but they are good for where he’d be hitting.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
why do you think he is going to be "very productive"?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
I just think he will.
He’s not going to blow people away, but he will be a sold player.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
if only that was saying something
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be surprised
if he peaks as a league average 1B.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I figure he's somewhere between Mike Lamb and Lyle Overbay
Which is why I’d like to look at finding someone who can allow him to sit against LHPs.
Or, alternatively, find someone to play full time so he can be insurance at AAA.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see why
the bat has to be a platoon bat if it hits both sides enough. This team needs to worry about putting out the best lineup every night, not try to get everyone playing time.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
exactly
I think AJM is far too concerned with putting together 25 pieces that fit perfectly together, when what is more critical is getting the most offense and defense packed into the everyday lineup. Thome made sense to me and Manny makes sense to me, because if either of those guys is healthy, they make the regular lineup much more formidible.
Rather than worry about making sure that a trio of 800 OPS, limited defensive players are going to get enough at bats at 1b, COF, and DH, I’d tend to think that having the mashing no defense 900+ OPS bat in the lineup five times a week. Adding a middle of the order masher with a 400 obp, like a Thome or a Manny and the offense improves dramatically and the defense is not affected. Either of those guys would make the team considerably better. Playing time for Yound, Moreland, Murphy will sort itself out.
Jermaine Dye come on down!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
How much are you willing to pay him?
And how much are you going to play him?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Not that I'd advocate for him at all... but if I did believe he was the right move, I'd offer him the most incentive-y contract in the history of baseball.
A low-ish base that could be worth as much as, say, 15 or so, depending on which Manny he is.
Cause, let’s be honest, if he’s the old “Hide Gramma and Grampa, cause Manny’s comin’ to town and he’s got rape on his mind”-Manny, then he’ll be worth every single penny of that.
I think Manny’s the poster boy for incentive based contracting.
But the real problem here is that second one you mentioned… Where the fuck do you play him?
I’d love another RH bat in the mix, but the only way this works is if you’re willing to do Michael Young at 1b pretty much full time, as otherwise Manny wouldn’t have any PA’s to go out and try to earn his sexually-based incentives.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Can he play RF?
Have Hamilton in CF, Cruz in LF/RF, Manny in LF/RF.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Then we don't need him.
Give me Gentry, he’s got range, good arm, okay bat, and cheap.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Counting on Gentry to provide us with an "okay" bat next year:
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Greatest spoof ever.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Oh God
You think this is a more talented team with Craig Gentry on the roster rather than Manny Ramirez?
Seriously?
When you compare him to a guy that will only DH and can't do anything else.
He gives the team more value. The Rangers have a enough guys who need DH time without having a full time DH. Those guys being Hamilton, Cruz, Kinsler.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
No he doesn't
If you have a full time DH along with Murphy then you can give those guys full days off rather than keeping them in the lineup as DH.
There is no way in hell Craig gentry gives this club more value than Manny Ramirez or Jim Thome
What the hell did I say about Thome.
He’s in Minnesota now.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Thome could at least play 1B.
I don’t think Vlad could even do that.
The last DH we had that had an okay glove was Bradley, you could argue Jones to an extent in SSS. The problem is the org keeps going after all bat no glove DH candidates, when we have guys who could/need to rotate through the position, to get some rest, but not take their presence out of the line up.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Thome hasn't played in the field in 3 years
He would be a emergency option at 1B at the most.
Vlad could at least go out and play RF and not kill you, at least until the WS. I don’t think Thome is on Vlads level right now defensively.
And with Vlad he would be giving the two guys most important (Hamilton and Cruz) days at DH. Thome would have played little enough that those guys could still DH plenty if need be.
Whatever positives a guy like Gentry does bring does not beat what a guy like Manny, Thome, or Vlad would bring to this club. Benching your 9 hole offensively challenged CF for another 9 hole offensively challenged CF does not bring more vlaue than a guy like Manny who could be a middle of the order threat in our lineup
I'll be damned
if I see how carrying a second CF who can’t hit really adds more value to the team than adding an everyday offensive starter.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
I know right
Seems really odd that there is a discussion weighing the value of having a no doubt Hall of Famer in the middle of the lineup vs a guy with a ceiling of replacement level contributions on the bench.
Trying to play him at 1B would probably be a much better idea
Still unlikely.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Our best option was DLee, but that didn't work.
Plus, if we sign him that means we probably don’t sign Beltre to some extent.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Our best option was/still/will forever be installing face at 1b and hoping against hope he can resist his urge to bring his third base bellyfloppings with him across the diamond.
I liked the idea of Derek Lee too, but didn’t he get something like 8 or 9mm out of Baltimore’s payment penis, or am I making that up cause I’m a Serbain guy at heart?
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Overpay IMFO
Orioles signed 1B Derrek Lee to a one-year, $7.25 million contract.
The contract includes performance-based incentives which could push the total value to $10 million.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Ya I think $5 mil was a better contract.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Derek Lee thinks he still can't believe Chris Young tried to punch him.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, God no.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
The problem with incentiving him to death is he's gonna get all bitchy about sitting
And I think he should sit plenty.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
With thumbs planted in a warm spot right?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Here's the question though:
Do you create more of an issue by giving him a super incentive-laden contract? Because then it’s not just a matter of pride when he complains about getting more PA or having enough chances to get his ____ total higher.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Sunk cost.
Cut him as though he’s warm to the touch, as I understand that the minorities are fucking wont to say.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
He's averaged 375 PAs the last 2 seasons
Do you expect that number to go up significantly?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
The question is, does he?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
At 39, I kind of expect him to get hurt more often
If he’s hurt, DL or bench/rest him and take it out of his hands. But yeah, he could be problematic.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yeah. There's definitely risk involved.
But think about something like this as the lineup against LHP:
Kinsler
Beltre
Hamilton
ManRam
Cruz
Young
Murphy
Yorvit
Elvis
That’s pretty absurd.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Very true.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I'd gladly give Manny a similar deal to what Vlad got last year
and I’d play him 5 days a week at DH and slotted right between Hambone and Cruz in the lineup.
I hate Borbon playing against lefties as much as anybody here, but are you really going to say that having a Craig Gentry or Marcus Thames makes the team better compared to Manny?
just watched the jorge alfaro skills tape that jason put up on scout
the guy has a GUN for an arm.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Is this up on the front page ?
I got here by clicking AJM’s twitter link on the sidebar. But the top post on the main page for me is the Friday night post. Weird.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
i clicked through from facebook
didnt see it on the front page myself
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Please send emails to bugreport@sbnation.com
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
done, thanks for the email addy
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
Can someone explain this?
I can see this in the "Twitter Feed on LSB section:
Saturday morning Rangers things http://sbn.to/eHPww8 (it was posted 35 minutes ago)
When I go to http://twitter.com/Lonestarball this tweet isn’t there.
When I go to www.lonestarball.com, the Saturday morning Rangers things isn’t listed.
I’m in Firefox. Thanks.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
im in chrome and didnt see it myself on LSB
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
No
Send an email to bugreport@sbnation.com
I don’t understand why it isn’t on the front page. And the metadata for the post says that it IS on the front page, so there’s nothing I can do.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Yes.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
now we are getting double posts also
hmmm
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Glad to see the powers-that-be are givng Chuck M. all the pieces he needs to continue to improve the ballpark experience.
One of the key pieces to the construction came last month when the control room used by public-address announcer Chuck Morgan was demolished. A new one is being built, and there will be additional staff members for Morgan.
by jam0152 on Jan 15, 2011 10:16 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
This has been a longtime coming for Chuck.
He deserves it.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I'm going to rec this
just as a Pro-Chuck rec.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Heh, as I started to read this comment I caught this little snippet out of the corner of my eye:
announcer Chuck Morgan was demolished
I was like, “Oh, fuck! He’s dead!”
But, no.
He’s not.
This was a dumb post.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 15, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't understand the reluctance to bring in Manny.
He played 104 games in 2009 and 90 games last year.
Yes, the Slug% is coming down but the OBP has sat between .409-.418 the last two years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:20 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
im *shudder* with josey on this....
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
The reluctance comes from the circus act he brings with him.
Still, if you where cool with Thome you should be cool with Manny.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
The circus aspect does scare me
but the right handeness would be good
he gets upset when he doesnt play and when he doesnt get paid.
here he would play and he would get (somewhat) paid
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
He played that many games because he was injured quite a bit
You seem to assume it is a given Manny is itching at the opportunity to sign somewhere on the cheap so he can start 80 games at DH.
I don’t think that’s necessarily the case.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
i'm worried about him
blowing up the team chemistry by throwing his hissy fits and pouting if he doesn’t get his way or just decides to quit on the team like he did in boston
you all hate me??? news flash: i don't care
Wash would have to sign off on the deal.
That is the key.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
yeah
he did a pretty good job of keeping milton bradley in check, but he was a brotha, i don’t think manny would buy into that
tha’s the way manny go
you all hate me??? news flash: i don't care
Manny doesn't have many options anymore.
Seems weird two, at one point, sure fire HOF’ers signed massive deals with the Dodgers and then just mysteriously suck or fade away. (Manny and Andruw)
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
You think he wants to play the OF???
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
i don't know what he wants to do
i just no he’s got a couple of loose screws i wouldn’t want to mess with the great team chemistry
you all hate me??? news flash: i don't care
He's Zach Mayo ("I got nowhere else to go!!") at this point...he needs to revive his career and what better place to do it than with a winning team and in this ballpark?
Why not tell him The Plan going into the season is to use him like the Twins used Thome? That’s a helluva weapon to have.
The Plan could change if Manny hits in the first half like Vlad did…is that a bad thing?
You seem to worry about there not being enough at bats available but these things always have a way of working out.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
x
Why not tell him The Plan going into the season is to use him like the Twins used Thome?
That’s fine. I don’t think he’s going to sign with a team that’s going to use him like the Twins used Thome.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Manny's ego plus Borass' ego=full time play wanted.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
He's 38 years old
I’m not sure he can revive a career at this stage.
Yep
He turns 39 early in the 2011 season.
He’s not a stage where he can realistically say, “Let me go restore my value then go hit the jackpot with a huge deal next season.”
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
What if he does what he did in 2009?
.531 Slug/.949 OPS in 104 games. That will restore value.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Not that much
Not at his age, and with his issues and limited ability to play in the field.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
He'll be 40 during the 2012 year.
That ain’t exactly a spring chicken.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
didn't he test positive for steroids that year?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I believe so it was the estrogen thing I thought.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
ahh, the masking thing
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Plus the 2003 leaked test as well.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
My guess is he isn't going to retire
and will sign for the most money he can get at a hitters friendly park.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think he plays for less than 5 next year.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Yeah, just like Thome.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
weren't you railing on low slugging% yesterday?
what gives?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Manny's Slug% was .460 last year (Beltre's career Slug% is .462) but .517 v LH starters.
I’m worried about the Slug% of the team going into the season…if you add Manny I think you have a chance to keep it the same as it was in 2010 (.419).
The hidden value is that he makes pitchers work harder (throw more pitches) which is very important in this ballpark. Where Manny helps the offense even more is his OBP. If you keep the Slug% at .419 but bump up the 2010 OBP (.338) up to .345-.350 you’re going to score a shitload more runs.
The 2008 Texas Rangers had a .354 OBP (.462 Slug%) and scored 901 runs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
roster questions
so, in April/May, do you take at bats away from MY as the primary DH or do you send MY to 1B on a fairly permanent basis and stash Moreland at AAA
If this was September, or even later in the season when the injury bugs hits, I can see finding at bats for him … but it’s going to be tough at the start of the year
The thing is at this point
Manny > Moreland. So therefore you would try and see what Young can do at 1b. The problem comes in if Young can’t handle 1b then what do you do.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
Just so you know,
“v LH starters” doesn’t mean those are his stats against those starters.
vs Starter batting splits are for the entire game when the starter was LH or RH. These splits include any subsequent PA’s against a reliever regardless of their throwing hand.
what's the point of that column? seems freaking worthless to me.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I thought it was just against lefty starters
which would be nice information to know since you would be talking about the only pitcher that hitter would likely see multiple times. But if its for the entire game, its not much more than info for those who are curious.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
They use them as a substitute for the years when they don't have play-by-play data.
Hard to compute actual splits when they don’t know when a reliever came in.
But yeah, for the last 60ish years, they have full play-by-play stuff, so it’s pretty useless.
interesting, thanks for the knowledge
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
OT
I want to buy At Bat 2011 and this years version is not out yet. I guess it will be along soon. It was my most favoritist, awesome app last year. Yeah! Droid phone. Yea! MLB At Bat app.
How much is it on the Droid?
I just got one and downloaded 2010 for free heh
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Its $10 or 15 i think
Comes out right around spring training, i’ve bought it the past 2yrs.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Cool
The only bad thing about Droid that I can see so far, is that you can’t purchase the apps on your computer. I assume it just gets charged to your bill? All I’ve downloaded is the free apps.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
you can attach you phone to a google payment address...
i dont have a TON of apps i have paid for
i paid for titanium backup, beautiful widgets and maybe one more
which droid do you have?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
X.
I also can’t get a background to look right at all. So I’m stuck using the factory installed ones. blah
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
look on appbrain for wallpapers, they have some cool ones there.
im using one from the dell streak myself
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
I wanted to use the picture from Hamilton's HR at Yankee stadium during game 3.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
yea you have to crop it and such
here is my suggestion: resize it in windows, then email it to yourself.
to find out what kind of size it needs to be google your model and wallpaper size
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks.
I’ll have to use my old laptop, Mac and Droid aren’t great friends heh.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
find a program
Named double twist….its the same as itunes just for android, it even transfers stuff from itunes you already have, I really like it
Go UNT Mean Green!
by JustinH89 on Jan 15, 2011 2:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Cool thanks.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
i will be buying it this year!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
I'm eagerly awaiting to see how this turns out
keep us updated
by MikeEl on Jan 15, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not as comfortable as others with the Young/Moreland combo at DH/1B.
It seems like relying on both of those guys to succeed without decent backup options isn’t a good idea. Thome or Manny represent(ed) better than backup options…they made/make Moreland the backup option.
It’s not a move that the cash poor Rangers could make. But the emerging financially able Rangers who are the favorites for the division but still have some significant weaknesses? Why not bolster the team where you can, assuming you aren’t committing long-term dollars or ruining potential trade deadline acquisitions?
The same thing that you’re saying about Manny could have been said about Arthur Rhodes.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
We should've got Derek Lee
That was our regular or platoon 1b option we let go. Why people just assume MY will be fine at 1b is beyond me. Maybe he’s already working out there and is doing great, but I’m skeptical. The problems that made MY bad at 3b aren’t going to be hidden at 1b.
I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum.
Yes, they would.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Adam
who do you want as DH?
I agree with you that you want someone who gives some flexibility; and you’d obviously prefer someone right handed.
But if you don’t want Vlad or Manny, since they can’t field, and you don’t want Thome, since he can’t field AND he’s a lefty… I’m kind of at a loss at who you should bring in (unless you just say "go with what you have and trust Moreland to 1st and Young to DH, and bring in a righty bench bat like Thames, which I’m okay with…)
Go Rice Owls!
I thought the plan was for Young to DH
My preference would be that they find a RH hitter who can either play CF or play 1B, so you can sit either Moreland or Borbon against LHPs.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
does that combo exist
and can they be acquired?
by matt dillion on Jan 15, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Marcus Thames
Mike Cameron.
Cameron supposedly likes it in Boston though, and there’s no real reason for Boston to trade him unless they get a favorable deal.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
cameron is also owed a chunk of change IIRC
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not talking about a combo
I’m saying either/or
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
gotcha
be nice to have someone to do both since it seems there’s only one roster spot available.
by matt dillion on Jan 15, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
CF who can hit like replacement level 1B
are quite valuable.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I would be more comfortable with Young getting a majority of his PA at 1B.
I think he can still be a decent enough fielder there, helping to recoup some of the defensive penalty, and I’m assuming it would limit the amount of time he spent at 2B and 3B.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I think Young will be just fine at 1b
but I agree with Adam that we need another RH bat, just to spell Moreland or Murphy in the lineup against particularly tough lefties.
I like the idea of Thames, the more I think about it. Probably inexpensive and could be DH and Young at first against lefties (which is important, given the strenght of lefty pitching in the AL West, particularly Oakland)
Go Rice Owls!
I like the idea of trying to find a way
to improve this team by another 1-2 WAR to help shield them from a worse than mean health projection, assuming you can do it cheaply and with no long term commitment.
Since there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of starting pitching help out there, and the bullpen, 4 OF spots, both catchers and 3/4 infield spots, there doesn’t seem to be much opportunity to improve the team outside of this sort of acquisition.
If you’re telling me that the ~$5M difference between Thames and Manny is going to strongly affect their trade deadline moves, then I’m fine with Thames.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
thames
performance vs LHP hasn’t been all that impressive the last 2 years, at least not enough to think that it is not worth taking a look at Moreland vs them. I would hope that TX could trade for a better role player who could also play fringe-average D at some spot.
The thing about a Thames
is that you sign him for $1 million, and if he doesn’t get the job done, you release him. Worst case scenario is what Ryan Garko provided last year.
The problem with relying on Moreland or Murphy against lefties is, as Adam says, you’re putting them in a position to fail. Which may or may not be a factor to consider; but if it is between letting Moreland bomb against lefties or taking a risk on someone else, i’d pay the million to at least keep whatever future trade value Moreland has.
Go Rice Owls!
Glaus or Thames
Do you want a RH-hitting backup 1B/3B’man/DH or a RH-hitting COF’er/DH who can also play 1B?
With Glaus you could sub him in for Moreland and with Thames you could sub him in for Borbon (w/Hammy moving to CF).
"I bent my wookie!" - Ralph Wiggum
by stupidsexyflanders on Jan 15, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure that Thames is viable as an OF.
UZR didn’t seem bad in a too small sample size, but the reports have seemed nicht so gut.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Neither
Glaus is done, he had 2 good months. Thames shouldn’t likely play in the field, whether OF or 1b (11g there last 3 years). TX can likely acquire someone better during spring training.
Manny would be to the Rangers
what Outlaw is to Lone Star Ball…………………………..bad chemistry.
by matt dillion on Jan 15, 2011 10:34 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
He'd give the rest of the team a punching bag?
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Shoehorned too early in the day and you're not letting the game come to you.....the vibe is good, nobody's feelings are hurt and we're talking Great Game.
Wait till somebody gets their feelings hurt before you toss insults at Josey.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Josey who?
there’s a Josey posting here?
by matt dillion on Jan 15, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
It's Saturday morning and it's early...
Give it a rest.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 15, 2011 11:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Real question who is going to sign Vlad?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Angels or Rays.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
I think we will
shortly after a report comes out about Vlad working out and being in the best shape of his life.
Rays supposedly like him over Manny
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
damn
thats a shocker.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Not sure what, if anything that says about where Manny’s at right now.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I find the Nationals comment funny.
You money whipped a terrible defensive outfielder and you complain cause you can’t sign a top notch starter.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
?
You money whipped a terrible defensive outfielder
Who are you referring to here?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Werth.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I thought Werth was regarded as a very good defender (spent some time in CF).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Uh
Until last year, Werth had never had a negative defensive season.
Career 10.4 career UZR/150 in RF.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Also, DRS dispute's UZR's assessment that he was below average in RF last year
Still had him at +9.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I think he's considered to be a very good defensive RF
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
My mistake then.
I figure he’s going to decline hard though. I just have a hunch.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
read somewhere hes going to japan?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I think he spouted that off a couple of years ago or something
Maybe it was a media thing.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
can't find anything confirming a signing
just that he was working on a deal with a Japanese team, but really nothing about that since Novermber 15th.
He'd be a huge star over there.
I figure if nothing happens here, he’ll go.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Shielded a bit from LHP, though, no?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Some
Thames: vs Righties in 95 PAs had a .896 OPS and 140 wRC+ and vs Lefties in 142 had a .806 OPS and 121 wRC+
For reference, Manny’s 2010 splits were: 255 PAs vs Righties with a .878 OPS and 144 wRC+, and 65 PAs vs Lefites with a .831 OPS and a 134 wRC+
If Vlad puts up red flags because of his second half fade...
…is Manny really the answer?
Second half of 2010: .244/.404/.317
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 10:58 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
If we're playing the 2nd Half Card...
Michael Young had a .302 OBP / .704 OPS.
That’s your answer at DH?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Argument isn't talking about Young good sir.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Winter & Coming Down Again are the best songs on Goat's Head Soup.
I’d stay away from Emotional Rescue…Black n Blue has some real nuggets (Hand of Fate is in my Stones Trust Tree).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Ya.
I need to buy more of their 60s stuff. She’s So Cold is my favorite song off Rescue.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Black n Blue is from 1976
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Cool
I’m having to order them all now, which sucks. Best Buy has cut their CD amounts by a ridiculous rate. It’s either the local joint in Lubbock, Ralphs, which I’ve spent who knows how much there or Amazon. I’m pretty much going local, just stinks having to wait for it.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I also can't find a bad song on Goats Head.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Young's already here and under contract
If we could dump him for a beanpie and a bag of jalapeno Cornnuts, he’d already be gone.
Given his age and history, I’m not that worried about his second half.
But hey, if you’re ready to push the panic button on Young, and think we need to replace him and staple his ass to the bench…
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not pushing a panic button on Young but I'm also not going to use
2nd Half stats from 2010 as a reason not to sign Manny.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
I'm out on Vlad because I want hitters that aren't afraid to take a walk and work pitchers.
Beltre appears to be a swing-from-your-ass, you don’t walk off the island kind of hitter.
We need somebody to stick behind Josh who is going to make pitchers throw strikes. Those kind of hitters are gold…look what Bradley did for This Thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
At $ 10 million per so we can watch Wash get treated like a doormat?
No thank you.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
since he got treated like such a doormat when bradley played for the rangers in '08?
oh yeah, that’s right HE DIDN’T!!!!!
you all hate me??? news flash: i don't care
If we got the M's to pay 5-6 mil of that I don't see why you wouldn't consider it.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
That's how much Ramirez is going to cost
And he’s not going to treat Bradley any better.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not worried about Manny sitting out of important divisional games
so he can preserve his health for an AS Game.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Because Manny is known for being so reliable.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Here are the reasons not to sign manny
1. He’s old, and like Vlad, isn’t extremely reliable. Either could be awesome (Vlad first half), or just a non-factor
2. He may or may not cause a disruption or a distraction. None of us know if he would or not, but he may. He also just may not try.
3. He can’t field. I’d rather have Vlad in the OF than Manny; and that isn’t saying much.
Manny has a lot going for him – but it is hard to argue that anyone is simply wrong for not wanting him.
Go Rice Owls!
WTF is this?
Did this conversation actually happen?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I think Manny and Vlad are essentially the same gamble
with Manny coming with some big baggage off the field (or on the field, or wherever you want to assign his baggage).
Manny’s one advantage is that could end up cheaper due to a potential incentive based contract; but that isn’t obvious. If I was given $7 million for Manny or Vlad, and I had to spend it on one of them, I’d spend it on Vlad.
Go Rice Owls!
I seriously doubt Manny would end up being cheaper than Vlad
or would want an incentive-laden contract
well, I kind of doubt so too
but that was the rumor going around earlier this offseason; and I see that as the ONLY advantage of Manny if you could work it out.
Go Rice Owls!
When he was injured?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
He was on the DL three times last year with hamstring/calf problems.
http://www.baseballinjurytool.com/playerresult.php
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Damn, that link doesn't work.
Well it was 4/23 – 5/8, then 6/30 – 7/14 and right back on again from 7/17 – 8/21.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Right,
so that would be a point in favor of “Manny is likely to be better than Vlad next year” no?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
It would also be a point in favor of...
…Manny is going to be in and out of the lineup and you’re never going to know from day to day whether he’s going to be available.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Moreso than Thome?
You’re asking me if I’d rather take a chance on Manny’s health or Thames’ to suddenly get better? Given Moreland as depth, give me Manny.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
How did the Twins make it work so well with Thome?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Justin Morneau's concussion had a lot to do with the time Thome got at the DH position.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Yeah,
apparently there was a bit of kvetching at how to get them all PA before that injury.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Things almost always have a way of working out.
Accruing as much talent as your budget allows is a good thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I have to admit,
you’ve made a lot of sense this morning. Went easy on the™ phrases compared to normal (we’d all love to see even less, though), didn’t get stuck in a loop repeating the same point over and over and didn’t even get drawn offsides by those who baited you. Thanks.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
no baiting on my part
I tend to take exception to being told to go fuck myself. Outlaw is lower than whale shit.
by matt dillion on Jan 15, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
The far bigger insult is to call you "Ken" from NMLR....
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Never had a problem with Ken
A far bigger insult would have been calling me MSH or even further back………… Seven, Newbie or any other of his screen names.
by matt dillion on Jan 15, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions
Whatever, Ken.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
He's definitely Ken.
Dropped a “tell” in one of his posts.
One of the all-time NMLR Fucktardian pussies.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
both of you
the limp dick outlaw and the fairy fag are wrong. I’m not Ken. But if that is what gets you through the day, let me be Ken for you. Hell, I’ll be Mrs Malaprop if you like.
by matt dillion on Jan 16, 2011 6:57 AM CST up reply actions
You're on a roll.
Think of more insults, Ken!
by brettgardner on Jan 16, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
I hope
you will soon dissolve the mystery of who I am and be able to forget Ken……to be able to illiterate him completely from your mind. I think it would be the best for all concerned seeing how much dysentery you already create for the ranks here at LSB.
by matt dillion on Jan 16, 2011 7:37 AM CST up reply actions
just use your real name...problem solved.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Hey Will.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
That was Eastwood's name in Unforgiven.
This is Ken.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
thought it was Munny
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
It is.
Eastwood/Great Game….Wales knows nothing about either.
by matt dillion on Jan 16, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
as for you
why don’t you go back to Sodom and Glocca Morra?
by matt dillion on Jan 16, 2011 7:39 AM CST up reply actions
Well, AJM's been calling him on his BS more lately
Josey’s thing is walking the troll highwire carefully enough not to get banned, so he’s taking it easy right now.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Fair enough.
I would like to encourage more of this and less of the same ol’ though, ya know?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, certainly.
I think there’s an almost-cool guy behind the Josey Wales curtain.
It’s just that between his desire to fuck with us and our desire to fuck with him right back, he just never hardly gets to come out and play.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Nobody is saying not to accrue talent
The issue is whether you wanted to devote a spot on your bench to a lefty part-time DH who will never play the field when you already have Moreland and Murphy as part-time lefties on your roster.
Find a righthanded hitter who can hit and play some 1B or some CF, and that helps things.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
You're opposed to Moreland as 1B backup?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I think he is more looking at Moreland as the top half of a 1b Platoon
with Young at DH.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
In the majors?
Yes. No need. Send him to AAA. You only have 4 bench spots. Using one on a backup 1B/COF who hits lefty is a waste of a spot.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
Thome started 27 games the first half of the season, and then Morneau got hurt and he started playing every day.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
i'll take that OBP
also, he will be going from the worst hitter’s park to one of the best.
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Chicago is one of the worst hitter's parks?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 15, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
Probably talking about Dodger staduim.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
He sure did for 232 PAs
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
heh
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Hungover?
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 15, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
I think Hank Jr. said it best
And the hangovers hurt more than they used to
And cornbread and ice tea’s took the place of pills and ninety proof
And it seems like none of us do things quite like we used to do
Personally, I think the better argument
is that if Manny is affordable, he most likely makes the lineup better, and since this team’s rotation is likely worse than it was at the end of last year, it would be nice to boost the offense some. I think Beltre for Vlad was about a wash, so right now, compared to the end of last year, the defense looks much better, the offense is a push, and the pitching is probably worse. So, if you can afford to upgrade, then upgrade.
On the other hand, JD needs to have that talk with Wash and tell him that when vets aren’t performing, they need to be rested.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
So when does this whole signing a DH thing end?
All I heard for years was that Young can’t play defense, and here we are talking about replacing what I feel will be a good first baseman with Roger Dorn. Add to that the powder keg that is Manny Ramirez, and I have no clue what the Rangers are trying to do here.
Offensive depth.
You sign a DH and Moreland becomes your offensive depth, which is pretty good.
As of right now though, you’re counting on Moreland to be one of your frontline guys with no real plan B behind him (unless you count Chris Davis, who struck out three times while trying to read this).
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
For the millionth time,
we’ve all said that Young can’t play defense well at a premium (or semi-premium) position. 1B is not that. It’s is very likely he could be an average defensive 1B. Not elite, not amazing, just average.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
And even if he is a shitty 1B
11 of the 22 qualified 1B’s this past year posted a -1.9 or worse UZR.
10 of those 11 where -2.8 or worse.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Smaller defensive penalty than DH.
And a chance to negate some of it.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
I don't understand
how folks so overrate 1B defense. If you can catch a thrown ball, you can be an average 1B defender.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
So no Thome; you say no Manny;
what’s the answer then?
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2011 12:29 PM CST reply actions
Dyeings!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
right but I'm not even sure of the options...
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 15, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Probably somebody like Marcus Thames, to platoon with Moreland.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
A downer?
You’d still keep the DH spot flexible and increase Moreland’s chances of providing good value by shielding him from lefties. It’s not as exciting as Manny, but it’s not really a downer.
A downer would be somebody like Mike Sweeney or Andruw Jones or something.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Garko.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 15, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
The albino rat fink
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I hate those bastards..
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
ROUSs
Rodents of Unusual Size
"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."
by Walter Sobchak on Jan 16, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think he went to Korea or something.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
He's a 6/7 lineup guy.
We need someone we can plug in the middle of the order that works counts. Outside of Bradley in ‘08, that’s been the most frustrating thing about watching this offense the last few years, despite the gaudy numbers provided by Hamilton and Cruz.
Those quick innings are terribly frustrating.
Que sera, sera.
That's true.
There’s not really a ton of those guys out there, though.
Manny’s really the only one since Thome went to Minny, unless you count Russ Branyan.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
as much as he may help the lineup
which is already much better than any other AL West team, Manny would be a mistake to sign. You really think he’s going to buy into this team. Wash will cater to Manny because he’s a star. The clubhouse would suffer for it, and Manny Ramirez will be the douche he’s always been.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
We may not think he can earn another big payday,
but I bet him and Boras do. For that reason, I think he’d be on good behavior on a 1 year deal. If he put up a .900 OPS over 500 ABs, it’s not out of the question he could get a decent 2 year deal. He wants 600 HRs.
More than anything, I wanna see that potential .900 sandwiched in between Hamilton and Cruz. Deadly.
Que sera, sera.
id love to have had branyan
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, if they where in on Thome you'd think Branyan isn't completely out of the question
Thing is, Branyan probably isn’t as good as Thome because he’s utterly craptastic vs. lefties, wheras Thome was at least average-ish against them.
If fitting Thome making the roster left-handed was an issue, Branyan would probably be even worse in that regard.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
6/7?
i think hes a 7/8
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
do you truly believe wash will ever go with some kind of platoon at 1b?
especially anything resembling a “true” platoon?
…i dont.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 15, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
relying on any strategy that means the Manager has to look at matchups probably doesn’t work with Wash.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
RANGERS ARE GOING TO THE WS!!!
Hi, my name is Josey Wales and I'm a douche. Prove me wrong.
by boomer1 on Jan 15, 2011 2:16 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
I still have this on the Tivo
and was the first thing I watched when I got home from that glorious game. I still pull it up several times a week to relive the moment….hope this Tivo box never craps out on me.
LSB memetarded.
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 15, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Just watched it again a couple nights ago.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Mo Fucking Norm Hitzges is killing me...Took the Under 37 (Norm double-play) and it's
21-7 Ravens late second with Pittsburgh driving.
I’ve lost my betting swagger. I knew Dallas couldn’t cover the 10 last night in San Antonio and that Tech (getting 14) was gonna STBF against KState.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
You need to check your thumbs.
Are they clean? If not you know what to do.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
You've lost your betting swagger bc you go off of Norm's picks.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Don't usually go with Norm...I normally treat what he says as nothing more than info
although I will sometimes try to catch lightning in a bottle and ride somebody else’s coattails if they get hot.
It’s just that I’ve STBF this football season to such a degree that I’ve lost all confidence (that has never happened in the past). This is Chris Davis, late June 2009.
Matter of time now when it’s 21-14.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Riding coattails of someone "who's hot..."
in games of chance, this is why you are statistically stupid.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jan 15, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
why
do you have Josey’s picture as your avatar?
by matt dillion on Jan 15, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, Little Brother.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah he might be right...
Let me help you. Atl, sea, and jets ats.
Wow. Oh-for-one and I'm not seeing either one of your other ones working out for ya.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Check again.
Bet against GB 3 out of 4 times in the playoffs. I’m in idiot.
You need to quit depending on the Ticket for any type of sports information.
Its like depending on Rosie O’Donnell for glamor tips
by BEW on Jan 15, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Desperate times, you geriatric old fart.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 15, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
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