Saturday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 10:04 AM CST
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PrintA flurry of moves yesterday that impact the Rangers...
Anthony Andro writes about Manny Ramirez signing with the Tampa Bay Rays, despite the Rangers' interest in him. Jon Daniels is quoted as saying that they don't think Vladimir Guerrero is a fit, because Guerrero is looking to be a full-time player, and they are looking for someone who would accept a part-time role.
Ken Rosenthal writes about the baffling decision by the Angels to take on the Vernon Wells contract, and the Rays' bringing in Johnny Damon and Ramirez to be their left fielder and designated hitter, respectively. Rosenthal indicates that no one can believe the Angels agreed to take Wells, and points out that the Angels will be paying over $52 million in 2011 for three centerfielders -- Wells, Torii Hunter, and Gary Matthews Jr. -- and none of those three may end up playing center for Anaheim.
T.R. Sullivan indicates that the Rangers are still hunting for a righthanded bat, and that Ramirez getting an opportunity to have a more prominent role in the Rays lineup apparently was a factor in Manny signing with Tampa.
Jeff Wilson has a piece on Josh Hamilton, his recovery from pneumonia, and his contract situation.
At Fox Sports Southwest, Steve Hunt looks at Neftali Feliz and the possibility that he will become a starter.
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I'm really wanting to be more annoyed about not getting Manny
But I just can’t make myself be anything but baseball happy right now.
I mean, what front office thinks paying Vernon Wells 81 million dollars over the next four years is worth a younger Vernon Wells and Mike Napoli?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
If cancer got on-base forty per cent of the time
I’d smoke my ass off and laugh while doing so.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Manny made for an easy scapegoat
in an LA franchise that was spiraling towards Hicks-dom.
He’s not a horrible person. And even if he was, he’s still a better hitter than 90% of players in baseball…
Go Rice Owls!
True dat, those Dodgers were a mucking fess last year
And also why I thought Manny wouldn’t sign with an also ran like the O’s. He had enough of that last year.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
The Dodgers completely turned around their season in 2008 with Manny.
There were a team that scored something like 4.16 runs per game before he got there that year and 4.62 runs per game after he got there. Projecting that improvement over an entire year, that’s a 75 run difference all because of one player’s influence in the line-up.
Here are the raw numbers (because I know LSB Do-Gooders are gonna fact check me)…
LA had 450 runs in 108 games before Manny arrived (4.17 runs per)
LA had 250 runs in 54 games after Manny arrived (4.63).
Did I mention Manny was also a post-season bad-ass that year?
Did I mention the Dodgers also went to the NLCS in 2009?
Did I mention he’s only costing $ 2 million per?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
You didn't mention that he was on juice at that time....
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yep.
But those are irrelevant facts in the game of flatulence.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
He wasn't on the juice in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
false.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
He got busted in spring training, Bearded One.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
It's not the regular season, you know, when they won 95 games
and scored 780 runs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Im not a math wiz like you or anything but....
I think that still qualifies as 2009.
And I always thought
it was the off season when players did the drugs, so they had the time to do the workouts and build up the muscle faster?
So, he was juicing in prep FOR the 2009 season….
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
True, he was juicing to prep for 2009 but he
flunked the drug test in spring training and the passed every test afterwards before and when he came back.
He wasn’t on drugs last year and had a .409 OBP.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
try to stay on topic....
He wasn’t on the juice in 2009.
“Dying ain’t hard. It’s living that’s hard.”
“Don’t become the ’82 Milwaukee Brewers.”
“If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place.”
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
Stay on target!
/screennamejokes
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Hurry, Luke, they’re coming in much faster this time. I can’t
hold them!
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
at that speed
will you be able to pull out in time?
twss….
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
by red3biggs on Jan 22, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hold on, Josey mistake. Manny was busted
on May 6.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
We knew it was a mistake by you....
you didnt have to let us know.
Dude
you should encourage him to admit his mistakes, not get after him. It’s such a rare occurrence…
Yeah but....
I just assume if he has a post up….. Its a mistake.
a new term?
Josey Mistake™
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
I can't keep up at this torrid pace!
Too many new words and symbols!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Rare but it happens, Officer Bob
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
i just a giggle out of how everything has it's own little term in JW's World
oh snap..there’s another. JW’s World™
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
Happens often and in easily recognizable places.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Seems redundant.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 22, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
After Manny was suspended, the Dodgers scored
217 runs in 50 games (4.34 per game).
After a clean and drug free Manny came back in 2009, the Dodgers scored 393 runs in 82 games (4.79 runs per game).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
A clean and drug free Manny helped
the Dodger offense profoundly in 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
People are not arguing that Manny hurt the Dodgers or didn't help them.
They’re arguing about your assumption that he was “clean and drug free” at the time.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
He was clean and drug free after
he came back and he had a profoundly positive influence.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
So you're assuming that someone who just failed a drug test in the very same season
Is clean and drug free after and that the drugs didn’t help him that season?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
So let me get this straight....
In your opinion a suspension means that you cant take into account he juiced in prerperation for his 2009 season? Then got caught in May and it didnt carry over for the rest of the season?
He got caught in spring training
but the suspension didn’t hit until May.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Not in the second half of the season
after he returned.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Would you guys please just stop.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I don't think you understand how steroids work
They take them for a period of time, generally in the offseason, which helps them throughout the course of the next season.
just because he “passed” during the season doesn’t mean his performance wasn’t enhanced by what he did the previous offseason
And projected over an entire season, that's
a 75 run difference because of one bat in the line-up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
You really have to work to be this dumb
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
you lika the juice, eh?
The juice is good, no?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
Manny was amazing as a Dodger and had a major influence on the entire
line-up.
In 2009 they won 95 games and scored 780 runs (Manny missed 58 games).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Rain Man
TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.
by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 22, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Was a rahtard.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Way to completely miss the point of my post
But thanks for interjecting your agenda again into this thread
I know...
he was good. I just hate absolutly everything about the guy. He just seems like a selfish horrible person.
Same was said about Board Game when he came to Texas, if I recall correctly.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Yeah....
My hate for Manny runs deep though. From his days in Cleveland to his days in Boston wathcing the playoffs with some of my buddies ,whom were horrible bandwagon fans, and hearing all the “Manny being Manny” shit. Then incidents like talking on his cell phone in left field. I dont wanna see that shit in Texas.
Very sophisticated take.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
What a strange comment.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Oh you mean you could do better as an almost-80 year old?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
That figures.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Ah
I see you’re another old guy. Aren’t you a little old to be worrying about forum politics, gramps?
by brettgardner on Jan 22, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
you are right
i mean who wants a guy who is good on the field?
i bet you didnt want the rangers to resign cliff lee because of how many teams he had played on in the last year and a half also.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Im not saying the guys not good.
I just dont like him and i guess I didnt want that to change by him coming to Texas. Its just strictly my opinion.
ok. just making sure that your hate for him was coming from somehwere that had nothing to do with what he did on the field and that
basically you didnt like the guy.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
And, really, though?
I don’t like him either.
But holy fucking balls is he good at not getting out as a batter.
I’d really like a cheap, one year guy who was that good at not getting out.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
at 2 mil he is a hell of a steal
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah he is incredible....
I just hated the idea of him coming here and being amazing….then I’d have to like him. (shivering in disgust)
Jesus
Yeah, he is.
That’s 1/40th of Vernon Wells.
1/40th!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
by Keynes on Jan 22, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
1/43rd if that 5 million dollar thing isn't true!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Not for one year.
But 1/11th still is a steal.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
But it's not just one year
It’s four!
Four glorious years!
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
odds that a healthy manny > healthy wells?
100%?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
Who ends up playing more games next near
do you think?
wells almost will for sure
due to him being an OF and manny being a DH
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
uhh
yes.
wells has played in less than 134 games once since 2002. and in 2008, he had 464 PA in 108 games..so yes, i feel comfortable that a 32 year old wells will play more than manny
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Oversized bath towels are a hell of a steal at 2 bucks a towel.
My wife is such a good GM, I can’t get in my front door for all the fucking towels sitting on the bench looking for playing time.
by matt dillion on Jan 22, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Wait.
So you don’t like him and you want to keep not liking him?
You want to avoid having your opinion change?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Haha...
I guess I did not want to be a hipocrit
So you choose to be ignorant.
Which one is worse?
And it isn’t hypocritical to change your opinion about something. It’s hypocritical to hold inconsistent opinions at the same time.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
It's the portion of your blood
that is made up of hippopotami.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 22, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I've never really thought Manny and Milton were that comparable as bad seeds
To me Milton always seemed to just be over-emotional about playing, whereas Manny always seemed to never really give a shit.
They seem like two different ends of the spectrum.
Ouch, that threat of violence was against a woman
My conclusion: I simply don’t see how the Mariners can bring him to camp when it opens up in mid-February in Peoria, Ariz. The full squad reports on Feb. 18 — eight days after Bradley is scheduled to appear in court in Southern California.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
If he's free, you have to call him, right?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Fuuuuuck no
He is toast.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Career 870 OPS against lefties
Him or Vlad- fuck one, marry one, sign one. Choose.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
milton is simply batshit crazy
id bring in manny, vlad, brad fulmer, ANYONE before bradley
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
I think maybe you have management sit down with Milton and his shrink(s)
and get a feel for where he’s at mentally, and lay out what would and would not be acceptable behavior. Then maybe you consider it.
No dude
He just threatened to kill a lady.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Penal Code 4-2-2
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Its OK to do that
but apparently harming a dog deserves the death penalty
Kinda true, sadly
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Sure, maybe
But you take the Teagardens who help old ladies across the street and drink milk and I’ll take the Mannys (Mannies?) who are jerk assholes who drink whatever they can steal from Teagarden’s locker while he’s warming up.
I think I’ll win more baseball games, and you’ll have to pay for the drinks I stole.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
This is just my opinion....
But doesnt somebody like that on your team bring everyone down considerably?
There is more good, 24 guys, that would outweigh the bad, 1 guy.
I honestly think if Manny is on a good team that is fun, he wouldn’t say much, but the minute things turn south he turns with it.
I know Captain Incontinence will be around later beating the drum of Thumbs/Butts/Dazzling/Ferns, but I don’t think the Rangers, more specifically Wash, signed off on the deal.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
You may be right....
I just did’nt wanna see a guy like him on a team I watch almost every game. Because it took about 2 mintues of watching game recaps that he was in that I wanted to break my TV.
Wasn't all that team chemistry fun in June 2009 ..you know, the single
worst offensive month the team has ever had or what about in September when we scored one run in five games at the most important time of the year…where was all the chemistry then?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Nope it was not....
but it sure was fun in 2010
If that was true
Would one of the very smartest front offices in all of sports have brought him in?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Thats why the move would have confused me...
he doesnt seem like a nolan ryan kinda guy.
Yeah, I think they're top two in MLB right now
But I also moved TOR up to #1 last night, so…
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Well then...
I think the Rays did it in desperation.
Desperation is Vernon Wells
Desperation is Vlad coming back.
Getting Manny Ramirez for two million dollars is smart. Even if his pants are baggy or he listens to raps music or he leaves his candy bar wrappers on the floor.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Agreed....
I just hate the guy so damn much.
That's because you are like 80 or something.
:)
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
...based 100% on off the field things
right?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
because they arent the smartest, DUH
i mean clearly no one with half a brain would want manny!!!!!!!
scott5 is basically saying to get a brain! morans!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
So much anger this morning...
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
YOU GET A BRAIN! MORAN!
I MEAN IT RODNEY!!!!!!! lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
pbbbbbth
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
GO USA!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Morans!
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
I was going to post it, but I left it for you.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
that is my favorite picture ever
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
"Once you suffer through it, it’s all glorious beard from there." -GoET
"It was a cavalcade of what-the-fuckery." -ldw speaking about the AM thread on 1-11-11
WHERE ARE THE FACTS FOR THIS?
look up the last month he was in boston, when he “quit” on the team.
the come back here
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Hence my saying just an opinion.
No facts to base it on.
That is not going to go over well
We like our sciences, here.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Haha yeah I know thats why I was
skeptical to say this is just my opinion. I knew I would be called an idiot repeatedly
ehhhhhh just difficult to hear it around here
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Royals sign Billy Butler
Four-years, $30MM. His 3 arb years and 1 FA yr.
by Judy'sLewinsky on Jan 22, 2011 10:14 AM CST reply actions
Hmm
pretty reasonable.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
"LSB is big on the sanctity of life for some reason." ---LSJ
"I don't have to watch awful movies to see hot women. " ---Robbie Griffin
by Conjunction on Jan 22, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
The Vernon Wells trade, made Moore look like a freaking genius.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
So does Cahill now want to argue with me that the Rangers division isn't going to be mediocre for an extended period
this basically writes off the Angels for the next 4 years.
Go Rice Owls!
Verducci: Is Dumb Face the new Giambi?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/01/21/mark.teixeira/index.html?eref=sihp
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
by Rodney on Jan 22, 2011 10:19 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Depends
Does he wear a thong for extended periods of time?
Me: But if we move to some state where our views are in the majority, I won't have anything to rant against all day long! What will fuel my rage??
Girlfriend: Well...you'll still have the Yankees.
by WildcatPhoenix on Jan 22, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
I know Davis tried it....
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
No pictures of Wash's car from last night?
Harumph.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 22, 2011 10:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I'll post the ones I saw when I find them.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Did they decorate it or something?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Just posted the only one I could find.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I guess you guys aren't at Fan Fest?
I decided that it’s more geared for the young ones than the drunk ones
TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.
So great...
Rosenthal indicates that no one can believe the Angels agreed to take Wells, and points out that the Angels will be paying over $52 million in 2011 for three centerfielders — Wells, Torii Hunter, and Gary Matthews Jr. — and none of those three may end up playing center for Anaheim.
Damn do I love this. You can’t wipe the smile off my face right now.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Apparently Cowlishaw is a fan of the deal
I think he’s the only one.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 22, 2011 10:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just think you have to pay for that hard hitting analysis now!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
durrett likes it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Angels got the best player in the deal and didn't appear to have room for Rivera.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
The Angels traded Mike Napoli to themselves?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
Josey defending this trade is just too much
It’s such a terrible and asinine defense.
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 22, 2011 11:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The best player in the deal is Vernon Wells.
The financials of this deal are horrific for the Angels.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Vernon Wells = Juan Rivera.
If we traded our entire farm system for Vernon Wells, Vernon Wells would probably be the “best player in the deal,” but that doesn’t make it a good trade. It still makes it ridiculously stupid.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Wells was out with injury or playing hurt a ton from 2007-2009.
Wells was very good last year and outstanding the 5 years before 2007.
As mentioned, the financials for the Angels are horrific and it’s funny watching Ranger fans doing nekkid jumping jacks over this.
The Rangers are paying $ 32 million per ($ 96 millon total) to the combo platter of Young & Beltre for the next three years…is that really smart?.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Angels are still paying GMJ to the tune of $11 million.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Wait
so you’re willing to discount what Adrian Beltre did “in the five years before 2007” and endorse Wells’ own achievements in that period?
Also, Adrian Beltre has had a reputation of playing hurt, and it’s not like that’s seriously diminished him.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I've studied Beltre's numbers (over a 5 year period) in Seattle very
extensively and his OBP and GIDP’s are fucking scary.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
I'm glad you've studied those two particular numbers so "extensively."
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
There is so much to them.
Takes him long time to think.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Baseball-Reference's rDP
(runs above or below average at avoiding double plays) puts Beltre at -4 runs over the past 5 seasons.
Of course that was a cursory glance, I did not look at it extensively.
Beltre is -3 career | MY is -5 career
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
From 2007-2009
Adrian Beltre had 9.5 fWAR.
Over the same period, Vernon Wells cooked up 3 fWAR.
Since you’re willing to dismiss Beltre’s 2010 as a contract year fluke, we can ignore Wells’ bounceback and say he’s been turd for years.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Wells was hurt or playing hurt a great deal of 2007-2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Jeff Sullivan similarly said
that Beltre constantly played hurt while he was in Seattle.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Everyone in baseball is laughing at the Angels
And I don’t see what trading for Vernon Wells has to do with Michael Young’s awful contract, other than to give us some hope that some team, some day, might take it off our hands.
Let me ask you, Josey…if the Angels were to offer to take Michael Young in exchange for some 23 year old back up catcher in A ball, would you want the Rangers to make that deal?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
There are two sides to the trade, Adam.
The best player in the deal is Wells so the Angels win that part of the trade but it’s not a slam-dunk..
The BJs needed salary relief, they win the financial part of the deal, big.
The Angels had a logjam both at C and in the OF.
The Angels get killed financially in the deal but they’re a large market team with an owner who spends and there’s no salary cap.
The BJs did outstanding because they’re a small market team (payroll wise) and were able to unload a heavy contract and get usuable parts back.
I see both sides of the trade.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Wait.
So you’d rather have Mathis/Wells than Rivera/Napoli?
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
except he isnt the best player in the trade
the angels didnt get better in CF (they have burjous)
they got 0.005 OPS better compared to riveria
they took on WAYYYYYY too much money
they are playing one of the worst offensive players in bsaeball at C now
how is this good for the angels?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
Keeps them in the AL West baby!
*Josey-fact
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
To be honest
Wells wRC+ figures when healthy are pretty superior to Rivera’s.
But then you throw in the fact that they’re replacing Napoli’s production with a bunch more of Jeff Mathis/Hank Conger…
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Where is the logjam at C for the Angels?
Unless you think they just had to give every PA to Jeff fucking Mathis, that doesn’t make sense.
The logjam in the outfield (assuming it exists) doesn’t change at all. You substitute Rivera for Wells 1 for 1. All it might do is push Bourjos, a plus defender, out of CF for a lesser defensive player.
It’s hilarious that you just did exactly what AJM tweeted was lazy no less than 20 minutes ago. Hilarious.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I'm not convinced Wells is better than Napoli
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't seen Napoli play on an every day basis
so I don’t know this to be true but isn’t he a major defensive liablity?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Yes
But then, supposedly, so is Wells.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
And Mathis
was apparently worse than Napoli at catcher.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
They likes his grit and game calling.
Really, the second best part of yesterday was Scoscia’s announcement that Mathis & Wilson are his catching duo to start the season.
Poor Hank Conger.
Yup, both of them graded out pretty terribly in BTB's catcher grading.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Heh
The Worst Catchers in MLB
Victor Martinez -6
Mike Napoli -6
Adam Moore -8
Jeff Mathis -8
Ryan Doumit -9
Jorge Posada -10
Francisco Cervelli -10
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/catcher-defense-2010/
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Mathis is supposedly much better defensively than Napoli
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Well-documented, and I'm inclined to believe it, but Fangraphs
graded both pretty poorly.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
I think defensive statistics for catchers...
…have a long way to go.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think relying on catcher repuations is any better.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Fixed
I think defensive statistics for catchers…
…have a long way to go.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Agreeance.
There’s something there but still too many kinks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Wells is probably waaaay extended in CF
but he should be able to play a good LF.
I can’t believe that they’re going to use him in CF when they punted Hunter to RF for Bourges last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Wells in left field
ZiPS projects Wells to put up a .265/.318/.451 line. That was in Toronto…in Anaheim, it will project slightly worse.
That, btw, is worse than Napoli’s ZiPS projection.
If Wells has a 769 in left field with good defense, that’s still not a player worth paying close to $23 million for.
You and Tim Cowlishaw are the only two people who are defending this move.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Could it be Josey=Cowlishaw?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Outside of Tony Reagins, you mean.
But yeah, this is one of the few truly universally hated deals in baseball.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Doesn't ZIPS also have Gentry with
a .643 OPS in The Show?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
How is that possibly relevant?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
He wants Vernon Wells over Gentry.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Tells you how far ZiPS has their heads
stuck up their ass on some issues.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
I'm not defending the move. I see both sides of it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Sure doesn't seem that way.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
With "This Thing" and "Beltre's a contract year player"
Josey Wales = Mike Rhyner
"Here we go again" does not mean what it once did...
Well Scoscia, preferred Mathis defensively to Napoli
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Young is a sunk cost, he doesn't impact Beltre at all and should not be counted against him.
Wells is something they didn’t have to have because they already did. They took on $20 million per year to fill a hole they didn’t have.
And to get a player a lot worse than the one they could have had two months ago for less money.
And you still didn’t actually get my point.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
You can call Young a "sunk cost" but that doesn't change
the fact that the Rangers are giving Young & Beltre $ 96 million over the next 3 years.
The really shitty part about that $ 96 million is that it’s being paid at a time when the Rangers could be giving out extensions to several players.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
It's much better
than paying Vernon Wells that much money for the next four years.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
You didn't answer my question
If you could give Michael Young away to the Angels today, in exchange for an organizational depth guy, would you do it?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Seeing as our Window to win is 2011 and then a reassessment of maybe having a chance in 2012...
hell no plus I wouldn’t trade him to a division rival who has a giant hole at 3B.
Trading Michael Young to the Angels for a minor league spare does not enhance our chances of winning in 2011.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Young wouldn't fill that hole real well, cause he leaves a pretty big hole himself.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Seeing things in terms of "windows" is what gets you into Tom Hicks territory.
If someone takes Michael Young’s salary you do it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Don't you think you could spend...
…the $48 million MY is owed on someone better than Young?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
You could but it's too late now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Wait...
The Rangers can’t spend $48 million ever again? They didn’t do it before now, so they are s.o.l.?
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 22, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Man I didn't know money worked that way.
Joseyeconomics™
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
You asked me if I'd trade Young to the Angels
today for a minor league spare and I said no.
It doesn’t help win this year and we are set up for a one year Window, maybe two.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
That opens up the financial window though!
We can spend that $48 million on someone/thing else!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
What's left on the shelves to spend
$ 48 million on that will make the Rangers better in 2011?
Giving Young to the Angels also makes them better.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Those pesky extensions you are talking about.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
How do those pesky extensions
make the team better in 2011?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Well gee I don't know.
Those facts are getting in the way. Considering $48 million wouldn’t be subtracted from the 2011 payroll roster, just the amount currently owed for the calendar year.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Well if we are rolling with Young at DH for 2011
We could conceivably replace him with Vlad for 2011 which would save roughly 8 million. Use that 8 mil toward extensions and then the savings over the next three years could go toward both extensions and replacing the DH position which isn’t hard to do year in and year out
I'm glad you've found your newest talking point on the issue.
Too bad you have to throw your boy Young under the bus to do it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by a factor of 1 OPS+ or 0.005 OPS
you are correct!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Horrific enough
to handily outstrip the fact that Vernon Wells is probably the best player in the deal.
And even so, if Juan Rivera and Napoli play everyday, they’ll probably outproduce the combined output of Mathis/Wells.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
You can remove the probably.
Mathis was, IIRC, the worst offensive player in baseball next to Brandon Wood.
Cesar Izturis actually took that honor.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I just looked it up.
Mathis had a .223 wOBA, Izturis had a .248.
Where was Teagarden?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
No chance he has enough to qualify.
But he would be historically low if you projected him out, I’m sure.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I figured that I was mainly being sarcastic about it.
He has to be worse than Mathis
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I'm shocked it was so high.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Wow totally unexpected.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Yeah, Mathis only had 218 PA's which is why FG's didn't have him on the leaderboard
Depressing fact I noticed though:
Guys with at least 200 PA’s who had a wRC+ higher than Elvis Andrus last year:
Angel Sanchez
Willie Harris
Alex Avila
Melky Cabrera
Yuniesky Betancourt
Jeff Francouer
Ronny Cedeno
Jonathan Herrera
Jerry Hairston
Ramon Santiago
Felipe Lopez
Carlos Gomez
Eric Patterson
Emilio Bonafacio
Holy shit.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
you like it too?
shocker.
vernon wells 2006 to 2010: .798 OPS, 109 OPS+
juan rivera 2006 to 2010: .793 OPS, 108 OPS+
vernon wells WAR the last 4 years:
1.5
1.5
0 (in 684 PA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
4.0
you really think the angels won that deal?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I was going to say
aren’t Wells and Rivera the same player, only one is $60 million more expensive?
Go Rice Owls!
The HalosHeaven tweet "Angels release Napoli, sign Rivera to 4 yr/$86 million extension" was really the perfect analysis
THE RANGERS ARE FULL OF UNBELIEVEABLE SUCK GIVE UP NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER GOOD BYE.
"It has been said that baseball is to the United States what revolutions are to Latin America, a safety valve for letting off steam. I think baseball is more serious than any Latin American revolution. But, then, I am a serious fan." -- George F. Will
by WestTxAg06 on Jan 22, 2011 11:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
They traded Rivera for another Rivera.
And threw in $75 million and Mike Napoli into the deal.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Sup dawg, I heard you like Riveras...
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 22, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
So we put a Rivera in your Rivera and took $75 million!
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I knew you'd love it.
Know why? CAUSE JD HAD HIS THUMBS UP HIS SPHINCTER
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I like the deal
For reasons the rest of us do.
2010 Texas Rangers: Going where no Rangers team has ever gone
He's just AJM's sock puppet to increase site revenue.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
so is Grandpa Urine
he now claims the angels have had a better offseason than the rangers with this move
WTF?
Seriously?
How can anybody be that fucking stupid? How can it be possibly that by trading two decent offensive players for one player of ridiculous similarity to one that you just traded, ALL THE WHILE PAYING $75 MILLION FOR THE PRIVILEGE; how is that 1) a good move at all, 2) solve any of the Angels’ problems?
They came into this offseason needing a power-hitting outfielder, a third baseman, and whatever other help they can get on offense. With this trade they lost 1) their starting catcher, 2) a power-hitting outfielder, and 3) a FUCKTON of money.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
In my frustration, I butchered several sentences.
Possibly = possible, and 2) solve = 2) a solution to
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
This outburst amuses me greatly.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Surely you jest
I didnt think even Grandpa Urine could be that dumb
He is jesting
I checked the ST just for the lol factor.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
.
aandro Nolan Ryan just predicted 90 to 95 wins for Rangers.
by Judy'sLewinsky on Jan 22, 2011 10:30 AM CST reply actions
We won't sniff 90
A’s are much better this year. Whoever wins the west will have around 85 wins.
2010 Texas Rangers: Going where no Rangers team has ever gone
/LSB Troll
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I see what you did there.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Ugh
benandskin If Vlad will accept part time role as DH vs LHP/pinch hitter – he’ll likely return to Rangers. Young to 1B vs LHP, Moreland to bench vs LHP
by Judy'sLewinsky on Jan 22, 2011 10:33 AM CST reply actions
if that's how he'll be used than I don't really have a huge issue.
and the whole base running thing.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
And constantly hitting 4th, when he's a dead fish at the plate
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I was referring the crap we saw from the all star break on.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I freaking hated watching Vlad in the second half
But if he could be more of a depth piece rather than a full time DH piece, it could pay some nice dividends.
That way you can give him some at bats and if he is hitting like he was in the first half, he hits fourth and plays everyday. If he is hitting like 2nd half Vlad he sits on the bench next to Mr. White and plays 1-2 times week against a lefty.
Well
That could be okay if Wash doesn’t play him against RHP’s.
Doubt that’ll happen though.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Let's assume that Vlad plays about 30% of the games against RHPs
games where Young is playing 2b because Kinsler is on the DL (at least 20 any given year) or giving Beltre a day off here and there.
Would you be okay with that? ~80 or so games for Vlad, mostly against lefties but also some righties when guys are resting? I would.
Go Rice Owls!
Yup, if that was the arrangement/understanding up front
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Like I worked out with Thome
1B: Moreland – 100, Young – 60
2B: Kinsler – 140 (being very generous), Young – 20
3B: Beltre – 155, Young – 5
DH: Vlad – 80, Young – 65, Hamilton – 15
Yep
And I think if you do it like that, you can ensure that all three of Vlad, Young, and Kinsler (and Hamilton) stay fresh for the whole season instead of burning out (which was Vlad’s problem – he’s just too old and gimpy to be playing day in/ day out)
Go Rice Owls!
If it didn't evolve into more games, yeah
I think that would be part of the bargain anyway.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
I'm good with that...
I’d assume JD and Nolan would also make sure Wash is on the same page before signing him too. Just don’t know if Wash is smart enough to stick with that all season.
I also don’t think Vlad will accept that type of role though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Well, JD is on audio saying Vlad still wants to be a full time player
And that Vlad is not a match for the Rangers.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yeah...
and I’m guessing that’s because the Rangers have still shown interest in him in a new limited role, but his agent keeps telling them he wants to play full-time.
So it just depends on whether or not he wants to go be a full-time DH for a team like the Orioles, or if he wants to accept a limited role on a team that could contend. Not sure how many full-time DH slots are out there right now. The options for him are dwindling down.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
IF, IF, IF
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
I'm not worried about Vlad's reaction to being here in that role.
I’m worried about Wash actually keeping him in it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Here is Wash's "new car." Pretty cool that they did that for him.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
What the heck?
The Rangers bought it for him?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
It was like the car he lost in Katrina, haven't seen a full story outside of tweets about it.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
wow, that's awesome.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
NO KIDDING!!!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Here is the other shot, Ben and Skin
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
That's a SWEET Caddy.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
they got this for him?
greatest thing ever.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
What's your heart's greatest desire, Ron?
’Kools.
No… wait…
A Caddy. An’ some kools.’
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
"An eigh...
just get me a fucking Caddy"
TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.
by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 22, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Watch it, Bub.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Straight-up Pimp
TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.
by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 22, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Here are the videos about the car.
Greenberg’s introduction, video 1
Wash’s acceptance speech, video 2
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Watching now, thanks.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Wash's speech is greatness....
The Cadillac Man
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Nolan seemed very entertained & happy
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
from the SI article someone posted in fanshots
So the Angels have spent their money, but they’ve done more harm than good. Putting aside Wells’ ugly road numbers and .226/.267/.340 career line in 173 plate appearances at Angel Stadium, he’s a clear upgrade on fellow 32-year-old right-handed-hitting outfielder Rivera, who shows occasional power, but won’t take a walk (not that Wells will either), is a statue in the outfield and is better deployed as a fourth outfielder than as a starter. However, the upgrade there isn’t as large as it might seem, maybe two wins over a full season given Wells’ various weaknesses, which include hitting outside of the Rogers Centre, hitting lefties (.257/.331/.391 over the last four years with far worse numbers against southpaws in 2010), and playing center field.
As for the Angels, while they can more easily absorb a bad contract, what they’ve taken on is more than just a bad contract, it’s a disastrous one. The Angels were already overpaying Hunter, who will make $18 million in each of the next two seasons, and still owe Gary Matthews Jr., long since removed from the organization, $11 million for the coming season, but those commitments are nearing an end. Paying Hunter and Matthews $47 million over the next two seasons is the residue of bad design, but adding $44 million for Wells alone, plus another $42 million to Wells for the two seasons beyond that proves that Reagins, who signed Hunter in one of his first moves as Angels GM, hasn’t learned from the team’s past mistakes.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/cliff_corcoran/01/22/angels-jays-trade-analysis/index.html#ixzz1Bmg76E2t
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
I had a sneaking, growing fear that the Angels would make a run at Pujols
if his contract negotiations failed. Not that that was a super-realistic possibility, but it was one nonetheless.
This pretty much rules that out, $20 million for Vernon Wells (ha!) means no $30 million for Pujols. And that is the only metric where Wells can be 2/3 the player that Pujols is…
Go Rice Owls!
I think Nats or Cubs go after Pujols.
I thought Hunter’s deal was done in 2011.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Fangraphs skewered this trade strongly
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/angels-acquire-vernon-wells-for-napoli-rivera/
Anyone who thinks it was a good deal for the Angles is an absolute fucking moran of the highest order.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
There are some trades that are head scratchers
yet you can think “maybe the team has something else in mind or really values this guy for some reason” (the Lee to Seattle trade)
There are some trades that people critique out of reflex and their intrinsic biases yet actually make a lot of sense from a certain perspective (i.e., Greinke trade for “need” prospects) .
And then there are trades like this one which are just epically bad the instant they are made. This is Kazmir for The Wrong Zambrano level stupid.
Go Rice Owls!
Agree 100%
When even your own homeriffic fans are screaming at their monitors, you know you have a winner. Well, for the Rangers that is!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
What is awesome
is that living in SoCal, I hear LA sports talk radio. And post Crawford and post Beltre, the Angels fans were apocalyptic about not having done anything this offseason. They were screaming at the hosts (who were trying to argue that the contracts paid were not bargains for the other teams) and threatening to not renew season tickets and saying how they wanted Moreno to sell the team even though he has cheap beer.
I’m convinced this is a case of the single dumbest fan base in the country rising up and scaring their owner (who isn’t stupid) to spend money that he probably knows he shouldn’t.
Go Rice Owls!
You should have delicious listening Monday
You’ll have to pass along some of the gems.
:)
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yankees and Cubs fans wave hello from the stupid section too!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
They're a different kind of stupid
Cubs fans are denial stupid – they think they’re going to win every year and seem confused when they don’t.
Yankees fans are just arrogant, I don’t think they’re stupid.
Neither group would find joy in trading for V Wells. They know better. But I guarantee a large number of Angels fans do.
Go Rice Owls!
I don't doubt that.
Reagins pretty much just signed his pink slip.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
As I said earlier...
…Reagins is neutered and Diarrhea Face has way too much influence.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Their owner looks like Sonny Bono
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
From the comments:
I can’t believe that a team who lets it’s manager have such a big say in personnel decisions would make a move so egregiously dumb.
I think he had a magor hand in this deal.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
*major...sheesh
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I saw this article and found myself wondering if the Boston writers
voted Wash manager of the year purely because of the way the Rangers put it to the Yankees in the ALCS.
So he's on a world tour, eh?
This quote made me smile:
“[The award] means everything,” Washington said. “They could have chosen many guys and they chose Ron Washington, and that just says the Texas Rangers are on the map.”
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
My brain is scrambled by trying to pick how the AL East finishes
after Boston wins 100 games.
I’m not dismissing that NYY wins fewer than 90 games, that the Rays win more than 90 games or that the Orioles finish above .500.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Toronto is going to be for real
Maybe not 2011, but, by 2012, Toronto and KC may be the hottest shit running.
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Did you call the hypothetical hardware store and buy a theoretical chain saw?
KC is winning 4 division titles and at least 1 AL title between 2012 and 2016
book it.
Go Rice Owls!
No growing pains, JBI.
The Royals are the Clippers until further notice in my book.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Should have been a question mark..."No growing pains?"
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
I think they have a critical mass of talent about to hit the big leagues
that has probably never been seen before in baseball history.
The quote by Jim Callis (I think) that you could take all of their 2010 prospects from their farm system and they’d still be #1 and the 2010-only players would be #10 or so is just ridiculous. Add in that they have some solid young talent on the big league club already (i.e., Butler); and the AL Central just waiting for someone to step up and actually beat up on those clubs…
Go Rice Owls!
Late 60's A's had one of the best farm systems ever but
it took them about 4 years of playing together in The Show to become elite.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
they also played in a 6 team division format
with some pretty mighty Twins teams before they started running off division titles like the ’90s Braves. The AL Central should be a cake walk
Go Rice Owls!
The Indians system isn't bad.
They might be able to make a little noise.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
So you have all those young kids leading the Royals to the playoffs
as rookies?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Moustakas and Hosmer could break with the club this year.
So could Lamb, Myers, and one of the other LHPs like Duffy or Montgomery.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
It could happen but that would be fairly stupid with this Royals team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
People said the same thing about the Rangers and look what happened,
by George they made the damn World Series.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
They have nothing to lose.
If those kids are ready, why not play them?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
x
They have nothing to lose.
An extra year of team control begs to differ.
Just Longoria them?
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
This.
LiamP actually chipped in with a good baseball point.
Break out the fucking party hats!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
We'll bring them out
once you chip in with a good baseball point.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
i fully expect for moose, hosmer, lamb, duffy, montgomery to get a cup of coffee this year
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Wut.
Moustakas I can see, but they have no reason to bring up Hosmer who hasn’t sniffed AAA and has like 200 AA PAs. They also have Butler and Ka’aihue occupying 1B and DH.
Duffy’s the only one of 3 pitchers that you mentioned that could possibly break with the club and you’re smoking something with Myers.
The Royals obviously have no delusions of contending. Why would they waste a year of service time for all of these guys when they’re not even at the end of their minor league development yet?
Those are just the guys who have the potential to get call-ups this year.
We agree on Moustakas, he has very little to prove left in the minor leagues. I can see where you’re coming on Myers, I forgot how young he is.
Hosmer is blocked for now but these things work themselves out. Butler is guaranteed a spot in KC, but Ka’aihue could be moved in the right deal.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
You said those were guys that could break with the club.
None of those guys, aside from maybe Duffy (and that’s particularly likely), will break with the club.
Obviously all of them, minus Myers, are potential call-ups.
Poor choice of words.
I meant “break-in” with the club. That’s my bad.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I'm more than a little skeptical that several of their guys could be a little overrated right now
Especially pitching prospects.
But even if they are, that farm system is ridiculous. And guys like Moustakas and Hosmer are going to be serious badasses.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
For that matter, I'm also a little skeptical of the helium on Mike Trout.
Scouts are no less susceptible to the echo chamber than anyone else, and even though most probably saw him play as the year went on, there’s no reason he couldn’t have a Marteen-esque off-year as he progresses through the Angels’ system.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
The problem with Trout
is that he really is a one year helium deal.
Though I would still like to have him…
Go Rice Owls!
Absolutely.
In the context of a great year, though, all of the “criticisms” you saw of him around draft time or shortly thereafter have just disappeared. I’m not saying he can’t be as good as they say he is, but to assume he will be the next Roger Maris or Willie Mays 2.0 at this point, which I have seen said, is extremely premature.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
but when you have something like 10 high ceiling pitching prospects
you can afford to have most of them fail.
And their hitters are going to be ridiculous.
Go Rice Owls!
Oh definitely.
That’s why I mentioned Moustakas and Hosmer. Those guys didn’t just pop up this year, everybody has known they were going to be awesome for a bit and they have been.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
The AL East is crazy
I actually think that it will be hard for Boston to win 100 simply becuse I don’t think Toronto and Baltimore will be pushovers. Rather, I think both would be 500 teams in any other division in baseball (and Toronto could even be a WC contender in the NL)
Go Rice Owls!
What do you do with the Yanks and Rays?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Yesterday
I had the Rays playoff probability around 30%. I think the Red Sox are probably around 80% (which is about as high as a team can ever go) and the Yankees probably around 60%.
I may even give the Blue Jays a 5% chance of getting the WC, but that is really under a Yankees have multiple injury problems and the Rays choke sort of scenario (neither is completely unlikely, however).
That leaves about a 25% chance the WC comes from another division; which I’m okay with given that the East teams will increasingly beat up on each other.
Go Rice Owls!
80% is ridiculously high.
Probably glossing over several of their major question marks, like Beckett, Papeldouche, and the possibility that Ortiz comes out and sucks ass again.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I know... 80% does seem awfully high
but their lineup is crazy good, and they’re pretty good defensively too. They have some questionmarks, but they’re only questionmarks if you’re looking for them.
FWIW, I don’t buy the “they lost Beltre and VMart, who will equal Gonzalez and Crawford” argument of Adam’s. Because the other thing is they should get a healthy Youklis and Pedroia this year as opposed to last. I hate all those old Red Sox players, but they’re really, really good…
Go Rice Owls!
Pedroia and Kinsler are eerily similar.
Not sure why you’re expecting him to stay healthy for the entire year.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
sorry
he played 31, 139, 157, 154, 75
But still, I don’t think he’s nearly the injury worry that Ian is.
Go Rice Owls!
So three out of the last five he hasn't played 150+ games.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Pesky facts.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 22, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
I think a key is Josh Beckett
If he returns to form, the Sox will be salty
Read this, it's highly unlikely
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox//view.bg?articleid=1309210
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Did you see this crap?
SI.com’s Jon Heyman reports that the Red Sox tried to trade closer Jonathan Papelbon to both the White Sox and A’s (!!!) before signing him to a $12 million deal to avoid arbitration.
It’s not surprising that they tried to deal him and it’s also not surprising that they found no takers.
Bleah to seeing more of him.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Yes, please.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
There rotation is headed by Lester and Buchholz.
3-5 is pretty sketch with Beckett, Lackey, Dice-K, and I guess Bowden is in the running too.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Where?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
That's what I assume and had heard on sports talk.
Beckett has a long road to get back and it’s not very kind. I thought you posted that article about it.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I was poking fun at your grammar
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
O heh
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Heh
OldHossRadbourn
“Reuniting”? Bah! I think we all know M. Ramirez has no idea who J. Damon is.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Good hell...
my wife listens to this damn techno-pop shit in the morning when she’s getting ready for work.
If I told you I wanted your body – would you hold it against me.
Are you fucking kidding me? Do people actually think that shit sounds good? Isn’t that one of those cheesy one liners used in bars that everyone makes fun of?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Sounds like a remade country song.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Or the country song is a remade version of the techno pop song
But yeah, that’s a lyric from a god-awful 80’s/early 90’s country song, I believe.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
actual title is
If I told you that you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me
If I SAID you had a beautiful body
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Dirk wrote a song?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Moar Ozzsanity!
White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said Saturday that the third base job is Brent Morel’s to lose.
This comes just two days after Guillen referred to a question about whether Morel was the starting third baseman as “a slap in the face of (Mark) Teahen.”
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
They need veteran leadership on that team.
They need Michael Young.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Young for Mark Buehrle?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Well, if I managed the White Sox I'd probably want to slap Mark Teahen in the face too
Well, actually the GM who accquired him.
But Teahen too.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Trade reaction word clouds...
From here: http://angels.ocregister.com/2011/01/22/trade-in-one-word-cash/71674/
My favorite word from the Jays’ chart: Jedi-Like. My favorite from the Angels’ side is Splash, obviously. I also like how Angels fans see this as a pitiful replacement for a Crawford signing, while Jays fans see it as a possible (though unlikely) precursor to an Albert Pujols signing. "AA" is Jays’ GM Alex Anthopoulos, who — judging from the reaction to this deal — will be the next Mayor of Toronto if he wants to be.
And, yes, the F-word would have been massive — massive — had I included it on the Angels’ cloud.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Jan 22, 2011 12:30 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I saw that
so much brilliance and joy.
"By MLB.TV, we can see J. Hamilton's homer, M. Young's clutch, and N. Feliz's explosive. All about Rangers things can be our interest" --South Korean Rangers fan
"LSB is big on the sanctity of life for some reason." ---LSJ
"I don't have to watch awful movies to see hot women. " ---Robbie Griffin
by Conjunction on Jan 22, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Don't be dumb
Everyone knows the Angels got the best player in this trade.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I think he is the Angels beat writer...
but he is pretty clever. My favorite piece by him: Scrap the clichés.
There's gold in them there hills!
Worst trade ever. Is it to early for firetonnyreagins.com?
http://angels.ocregister.com/2011/01/21/napoliwellsrivera-deal-done-official-release/71628/
I think I saw 1 or 2 fans defending the deal, the rest are in dogpile mode. LOL.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Sam Miller's great.
That team doesn’t deserve him at all.
you didnt include the title!
rev halofan makes a video in response to yesterdays decision to get Napoli
…this is awesome.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
i think my fav part may be when his wife? girlfriend? companion? ??? walks in then cuts to her in the other room looking in on him
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think it was the ten minutes
of her screaming at him for tearing that stupid box apart that had to be edited out.
“We had to get to the game 5 hours early because you said they might run out, and you had to have one in fucking perfect condition. Now look what you’re doing to it!!!”
"My expectations today are that we're going to be extremely competitive and if we don't win our division, I'll be disappointed." Nolan Ryan
i am going all sharky and having multiple reponses here
but his youtube feed is greatness
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
...wow
rev halofan on last years offseason
“kazmir is replacing lackey in the angels pitching rotation, and we should see an improvement…compared to last year in its entirety "
“THEY WERE PUBLISHED ON THE NEVER NET! THEY NEVER WERE PUBLISHED!!!!!” (re: sabermetrics and figgins)
“for all you darren oliver fans out there, he is the age that steve findley was when he was with the rangers – thats where darren oliver is headed, findley-ville”
re: october:
“so, figgins, lackey, oliver, matthews, vlad – they are gone. im still looking at an angels fan who can win 90 or 92 games this year”
“look for the angels to maintain the western division title”
“look for them to go deep into the playoffs”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Hehz
Arthur Rhodes, 41, said he intends to pitch longer than Jesse Orosco, who retired at the age of 46 after 24 seasons.
“My goal is to pitch until my arm falls off,” said Rhodes.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
He's got the right manager.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
We traded Engel Beltre for Dusty Baker?
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
by LSJ on Jan 22, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Somewhere Mark Prior is crying cause Dusty f'd him up.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Adrian Beltre was a 'bad' signing
because his defense ’isn’t as advertised’.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
Oh Em Gee!
roflcopter
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
i understand she is "trying"
but my god, lol wtf is she doing trolling the shit out of HH the day after?
..wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
She's a genius.
wtf is she doing trolling the shit out of HH the day after?
Her trolling of us about moving the better defender to make room for Beltre was brilliant.
THE BEST PART IS SHE IS TOTALLY SERIOUS????? I DONT UNDERSTAND
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
her response when someone asked how dumping 86mil is stupid for the jays
Rivera and Napoli…
are not exactly the players you are looking for. Also, Wells had a good year last year, you’d think they’d get more value.
im laughing so hard….
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
don't start picking on her again...
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
all i did was post her quote...
come on…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
lol
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
i mean seriously
i dont give a damn if she is 8 or 80 years old. now is simply not the time to do shit like that
…no matter how serious she may be.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, this poking fun is not without reason here.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
okay, that's fine...I just don't understand why you get so worked up over it.
Proceed.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
eh that was then. now its just a matter of being really incredulous that anyone would be SO serious right now and troll SO much
while being 100% serious about their questions.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's almost the equivalent of interrupting a cage match to deliver a pizza that was odered two days ago.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
are you saying you don't like cold pizza?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
HAHAHAHAHA
I just went over to Purple Row and was scanning some comments on a Todd Helton piece, and found this.
It’s not even related to the subject! It’s not even a team she’s a fan of! It’s not even one of the teams involved in the trade!
Although, the first reply puts her to shame:
Rivera and Napoli are both overpaid and bad clubhouse guys. The Angels didn’t want either one anymore, and were looking at a situation where they would be stewing on the bench and causing trouble all year. Wells is an elite talent, though admittedly also ridiculously overpaid.
wow.
wow.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Doesn't she have a "sports show" or something?
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
"I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming."
yes, she actually used that in response to me one time
something along the lines of “if your so smart, why dont you have a sports show”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
*you're
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
im not going to be an asshole about that
i can understand how it is difficult to get started, and as far as i know it very recently started. ill defend that
i will not defend the other stuff
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I did not realize that Pro Lacrosse even existed.
If only she would stick to lacrosse and stay way from baseball if she is going to troll other team’s blogs with unnecessary opinions.
She'll play the 15 year old girl card and they feel bad.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
now that's funny.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
the kicker is how serious she is about ALLLLLLLLLLLLL of it.
like totally and completely serious.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Jan 22, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
My favorite part
Rivera and Napoli…
are not exactly the players you are looking for.
Also, Wells had a good year last year, you’d think they’d get more value.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
THE VALUE IS GETTING RID OF HIM.
That’s the value. Period.
One of the posters on HH was spot on, if the Jays had just gotten Mike Napoli’s laundry for getting rid of Wells’ contract, they still win the trade.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
To be fair,
that’s a fair amount of laundry.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 22, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Reagins
I’ve been trying to digest this Wells to Angels news over the last day. The knee-jerk is to say that Reagins is an idiot, which he may be. It seems to me that a mistake of this proportion is only made by a guy who does his job in a bubble. There is no way that this guy has a good/close working relationship with any of the other gms. The kind where you could call up gm of team x and say “what do you think the Blue Jays would want in return for Wells?” and that gm might respond something like, “well, if you’re willing to absorb a half or two-thirds of his salary – they’d probably be happy with a couple of mid-level prospects.” Congrats to Antrhopoulous for keeping a two week poker face – I’m sure he would have sent at least $15-20 million to the Angels if Reagins had just asked.
by Randy Richardson on Jan 22, 2011 1:34 PM CST reply actions
Back from FanFest
It was ok. A lot more room for stuff than at the ballpark, but part of what I like about Fanfest is being at the ballpark. Good Q&A session with Chuck M and Nolan.
LSB memetarded.
Actually had more fun
reading Halos Heaven this morning, what a riot!
LSB memetarded.
by DonDrapersOPS on Jan 22, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Another member of the Band of Brothers has passed away. RIP
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110122/NEWS01/701219817#a-brother-and-a-hero-dead-at-94
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
That's really neat that he was so popular the last 18 months
RIP
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I raise my glass to you sir
rest in peace
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jan 22, 2011 3:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Angels get Wells and his bad contract
By Keith Law
Vernon Wells isn’t a terrible player — he’s a solid player with a terrible contract. And he is absolutely the wrong player right now for the Los Angeles Angels, who have made one the worst desperation moves I can remember.
Damn, the rest of the roasting is Insider :(
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
On it.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 22, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Heh. Pretty good piece. Highlights:
Wells has an opt-out clause good after this season, and perhaps the Angels’ plan is to take Wells to all the seediest neighborhoods in the greater Los Angeles area to convince him to bail on those last three years of his contract … but I doubt it.
The problem is that Wells is now well below-average in center and probably should be in a corner outfield position, where his bat is less valuable
. I’m pretty sure the Blue Jays would have accepted a box of turnips and a can of potted meat to get out from under Wells’ contract, though.
Look for them to plow some of that money into this year’s Rule 4 draft, where they have seven of the first 80 picks (including the Angels’ second-rounder), as well as into the major league roster next winter, since they have only about $14.5 million committed for 2012,
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 22, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
That's a scary small amount committed.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Also an $8M option on Aaron Hill.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 22, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks GB!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Hah. I enjoy the LSB Twitter Feed.
Is there anything lazier than defending a baseball team acquiring a bad contract by saying, "Who cares? There’s no salary cap in baseball.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
Wait, You Mean Someone Wants To Pay Vernon Wells?
Wells will earn $23 million next year, so the Angels had better hope he repeats his “bounceback” .273, 31 HR, 88 RBI 2010 — and then repeats it over again in the second half of the season.
HAHAHAHA
http://deadspin.com/5740267/wait-you-mean-someone-wants-to-pay-vernon-wells
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Nah, they're not a top-ten team.
"Sometimes I'm Bill Buckner, baby. Sometimes I'm Willie Mays." -dariustx
Vooty still strangely obsessed with JW
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
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