Vernon Wells, and why the contract matters
When we were taking geometry in high school, my friend Henry Harya created what he called the "Inherently Obvious Postulate." He said that, if something is inherently obvious, we shouldn't have to do a formal proof of it. If you are trying to prove something, and an element of it is provable through the "Inherently Obvious Postulate," then you can skip those steps by invoking the postulate and move on to the more meaningful parts of the proof.
The fact that Vernon Wells is owed $86 million over the next four years -- way more than he would get on the open market right now, or that any reasonable person would presumably agree to pay him -- is relevant to analyzing the Angels adding him is something that I didn't need to expound upon, I thought, because of the Inherently Obvious Postulate.
Apparently, that's not the case. While most people have pointed out the folly of the trade from Anaheim's perspective because of the contract, there are a few hardy holdouts who insist otherwise, on the "there's no salary cap/its not my money" grounds. For example,Angels' beat writer for the official Angel website Lyle Spencer:
Predictably, the Angels' acquisition of Vernon Wells at the expense of Mike Napoli and Juan Rivera has the critics howling. They do that largely because that's what they're paid to do, and you can't really fault a person for that. It's the carping of fans that is somewhat baffling.
The Angels just landed a three-time All-Star at 32, with four years on his contract, for two players who might not have had starting jobs but will get shots to play every day in their new environment. You have to be reaching hard not to like that.
The big talking point is Wells' huge contract, which wouldn't have been an issue back in the day when it was the game that mattered, not economics. If I'm an Angels fan, I ignore this aspect of the deal. Arte Moreno gave it his OK. If he doesn't have to raise ticket prices, the bottom line should be of no concern.
For all the slow people on the blog, I'm going to spell this out, while typing real slowly so that you can keep up...
Every team has a finite amount of resources that it can devote to expenses. Any expenses, not just payroll, and any team.
You can say, "Hey, what about the Yankees, they can spend whatever they want!" But that's not really true. In the first place, if the Yankees start spending $400 million per year on payroll, and give Cliff Lee a 6 year, $240 million deal just to make sure they land him, you can believe there will be consequences. The luxury tax will go up, or there may be more of a push for a soft cap, or there may be some other reaction...but part of the reason the Yankees don't spend more, even though they can if they want, is that they are maintaining a sort of equilibrium with MLB, understanding that if they get too aggressive with payroll, MLB will be forced to slap their hands and put tighter restrictions in place.
In addition, you have the fact that the Yankees owners want to make money. They want to win, sure...but they also are in this to make money, lots and lots of money.
In any case, the Yankees have a finite amount of resources they can spend. If they didn't, they'd have given Gerrit Cole a billion dollars to sign, they'd have given Cliff Lee whatever he wanted, and every major free agent that hits the market would be offered double or triple from New York what anyone else would pay.
So even though Anaheim is a large market team, they still have finite resources to devote to their various expenses. The amount of resources they choose to devote is, I imagine, flexible...they can spend more if certain opportunities arise, they can spend less if they don't feel value is out there, or Arte Moreno can go all Gene Autry and decide he's going to spend whatever he has to to guarantee a title in his waning years.
And Anaheim has chosen to devote a good chunk of its finite resources to a player who isn't all that great, who doesn't make them that much better this year.
Again, you can take the Lyle Spencer approach and say, well, who cares, the team is better, if it doesn't affect ticket prices, what should the fans care?*
* Spencer is also pushing a fallacy common to sports journalists and fans alike, linking ticket prices to expenditures. In reality, ticket prices and other sources of revenues are what ultimate determine expenses, not the other way around. Let's not pretend that any owner isn't going to charge as much as he thinks he can get for a ticket, regardless of what payroll is. If ticket prices go up, it isn't because payroll is going up, it is because the owner thinks he can make more money by increasing ticket prices.
The fans should care because the Angels can find better ways to spend $86 million. Spencer, and some others out there, choose to view this as a binary decision -- either the Angels spend $86 million on Wells, or they create a big bonfire in the parking lot and set the money on fire. Clearly, the Angels are better with Wells than with a parking lot filled with the ashes of 860,000 one hundred dollar bills, so this is a good move.
But that's not the case. The management of any sports team is about resource management. Do you want to devote $4 million more to amateur signings in a given year, which could pay off big down the road? Or do you want to devote that money to payroll in the current year, which could lead to more wins, and thus more fan enthusiasm, and higher attendance, and more revenues that will end up possibly more than covering the $4 million more you spent in the current year's payroll?
When people talk about "Moneyball" being a business book, that's what they are talking about...if you've got finite resources to devote to your organization, how do you best allocate them? Spending $86 million on Vernon Wells means the Angels have that much less to spend on extended Jered Weaver, or pursuing C.J. Wilson this offseason, or building a fancy new scoreboard for their stadium, or going above-slot to sign a draft pick. That's $86 million they are spending on a guy who, most likely, will be a good, not great, player, that they can't spend elsewhere.
And that's why, as a Rangers fan, I'm happy Anaheim made this move. Yes, it may, if Wells works out, mean they win an extra game or two, in a season where they look like the third best team in the A.L. West, a team that should finish around .500.
But it also means that they have that much less of an ability, going forward, to spend money in a way that could provide more benefit for the team. And that's a good thing for the Rangers.
And finally, this notion that Spencer pushes, that this " wouldn't have been an issue back in the day when it was the game that mattered, not economics"...when was that, exactly? Steve Carlton got traded to the Phillies from the Cardinals because of economics. Connie Mack broke up the Philadelphia A's on multiple occasions because of economics. The Black Sox scandal in 1919 was about economics. The Federal League in 1914 was about economics.
Baseball has always been about economics. Fans and the media just don't try to stick their heads in the sand about that issue anymore.
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Still think he could pass as Sonny Bono
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by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
The tree he ran into
Makes me think different.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
We've always had this
back in the Hart days there were folks saying things like the contracts for the late, unlamented 2002 Rangers didn’t matter.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Arte signed off on it after careful consideration
It’s a great deal, stop mucking up the water.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Great piece, Adam. It’s fascinating how the mainstream local media coverage and Internet blogger coverage of the deal are so far apart. And Arte Moreno looks more like Ringo Starr every day.
This should be good.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 24, 2011 1:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
tl:dr
but I guess it points out that the Wells contract is nuts, right? With salient points and footnotes?
/Tolstoy
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
ElectricOkra.com
Is it just me, or does Moreno look a lot like Alf in that picture?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Well, at least we know they won't be trying to sign Kinsler in the future.
by blakethegr8 on Jan 24, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
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Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
after seeing the guy above
mention he looks like ringo, i kind of see a combo of ringo and old man bob dylan
by studcrackers on Jan 24, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
If they were even considering this...
Why would they not have just bid 6 years $100 million on Adrian Beltre and been done with it?? They would have got to keep Rivera/Napoli (coulda traded them away for solid prospects if they really wanted them gone) and then they would have had a similar if not better player in Beltre than Wells that fits a need for them. Makes no sense to me.
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Jan 24, 2011 1:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
True...
I’m just saying it doesn’t make any sense to pass on Beltre at 16 mil a year for 6 years and then trade an asset (Napoli) to get Wells at 21+ mil a year for 4 years, even if they are the excact same player.
my better is better than your better.
No, I agree with you.
I was just pointing out that, if Beltre is similar to Wells, we made a big mistake, too.
There is no Henry Harya.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
There is
And he lives in South Africa now.
by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
I know him from Friendster!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
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The big talking point is Wells’ huge contract
this is the main point of the article and he ask us to ignore it… this is ignorant.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 1:45 PM CST reply actions
oops.. second part was me...not supposed to be blocked... im an idiot.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
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The big talking point is Wells’ huge contract
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
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I am Neftali Feliz…im an idiot.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
my head just 'asploded
with all of these block quotes
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Nice reference.
Haven’t thought about that in years.
by Robert L. Bishop on Jan 24, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
i hear ya.
when i get the sunday afternoon drunk text from you, I assume your Monday’s are going to be a little rough
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
haha.. did i send ya one?
hopefully it was interesting.. or hey lets go get lap dances between games o rsomething ridiculous
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
yeah you sent me a couple,
my favorite being, “Erin wants you to get a facebook because she is so 2014.”
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
lol... i proposed to katie drunkenly on the phone last night
i think she just assumed it was the vodka talking.
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
i thought you were done with that bia?
i haven’t drunkenly (or soberly for that matter) proposed to anyone in a few months now. /impressive
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
i always think im done.. and always go back
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
shit happens.
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Dude cut bait now.
/Says the man who didn’t with the World Series ditcher for two months
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Katie?
Tron says Katie got some big-ass titties…
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
dammit I love that sketch, I laugh everytime I think about it.
true story
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
What sketch?
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Golden.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Arrowed
Drop by Coming Home Newcastle for all your Newcastle United banter and news.
"Beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." ~Benjamin Franklin
Although I don't know being a Ranger fan
you can be completely excited about the deal. Wells did establish himself a “Ranger killer” last year. And now we get to face him as a division rival.
What's more likely?
That Wells’s 1700 OPS in a whopping 42 PAs last year is how he magically hits against the Rangers, or that that’s a small sample size and the more often he hits against the Rangers the more often his OPS will be closer to the .800 it has been for his career (if that)?
He helped me on my fantasy team in 2010,
but $20 million per year is outrageous considering the three previous years.
OT: Vlad as a HOFer?
if Vlad does retire today, does he go into the HOF in 5 years? does he need to pad his stats some more? he’s at least 2 to 3 years away from 500 homers, and he’s at least 3 years away from 3000 hits assuming he’s healthy the next 3 years.
but the rate stats are awesome .320 BA, .946 OPS, 143 OPS+ over 15 seasons. though he hasn’t led any league in a triple crown category, surprisingly enough.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
it wasn't that long of a post
to ignore the first word in it…. or is the word “if” not in your vocabulary?
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Saying "if ___ does happen" implies that there is a chance ___ happens.
It’s different than saying “if ____ happened today …”
I thought the same thing when I read it. Poor choice of words to say “does.”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
well.... there is a chance
that he retires the same way that Jermaine Dye did.
as in, no one offers him a contract.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I heard an uncomfirmed rumor
about him going to Baltimore.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
well... I realized that
if one person misunderstood me, then they’re a fuckhead.
if two people, then I may have been unclear.
Now, it seems that I am correct twice.
and all i have to say is, you are what you eat, dickhead.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I am what I eat?
Aren’t you supposed to imply that I eat shit or something afterward? Or weren’t you supposed to say I was a cocksucker?
I don't think it's reasonable for you to assume that if one person misunderstands, then that person is a fuckhead.
You might still have been unclear no matter how few people read it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Yeah, I just realized that he said that
“If one person misunderstands, then that person is a fuckhead.”
God damn that’s an amazing line. Can you imagine calling somebody a fuckhead every time they didn’t understand something you said? I want to meet iblum. He must be a god where he lives.
What are you trying to say here, fuckhead?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
you're all a bunch of fuckheads;
you fucking morons
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
*morans
effn dumas
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
He was why I hated those Mavs so much
He was at times the best player on the court and you just knew that a team relying on Dumas and George McCloud was never going to do anything
I wonder how many people saw "dumas"
and read it with the French pronunciation.
They are more literate than I, for sure
It made me think of the commercial.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
DING DING DING
Hey Mr. Dumbass…..
It’s Dumas
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
for some reason
Dumbass/Dumas makes me think of the Shawshank Redemption.
what an awesome movie.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Same.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Dumas
I think of the town in the panhandle. I had a boss who hailed from that town. Nuff said.
"Ooooh....I want some fucking pancakes!" son of willamos2
Always throws non-Texans off.
They always call it Dumass
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
My dad went to school there for a while
Before graduating from Olton
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not very sophisticated.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
i always forget
/not an elephant
/but still fat
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, I also misunderstood.
That means neither of us are fuckheads.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Ha
I forgot that was the original question.
If this thread wasn’t useless enough, I need only to look at the stupid question starting it.
Vlad would be in the HOF,
to be certain, if he retired currently.
No question about it.
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
We will decide that when the fuckhead from Chitown gets done consulting his manual
Until then, just assume a yes.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Oftentimes they are the same thing.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Dunno, ask ab03
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Also
why did you take my question to imply that your statement was definite and not conditional as opposed to just assuming my question was independent?
And how are you right even once?
because
you failed to qualify your statement. you simply asked, “is he retiring?” as if that had anything to do with my statement.
that and the fact that calling me a cunt certainly helps prove how much of a fuckhead you are. just like the rest of us.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
How is that not a legitimate question given the wording of your post?
But even more than that, why get angry about him asking it?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
didn't want to derail the conversation
which, apparantly, it did anyway, damnit.
but since people think he is anyway, then there really wasn’t a thread to derail.
and it always bothers me when I bring up a hypothetical and then someone asks me if its happening like I have some special knowledge or something.
Like, if I said something like, “If there was life on another planet, would they play baseball?” and the first response was, “Is there life on another planet?”
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
That's not what you said, though.
What you said was more like “So the life on Mars, do you think they play baseball?”
Then the most common reaction would probably be “wait, there’s life on Mars?”
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Scoop, will you take this?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Dinosaurs only existed on Mars.
10% of the mass of Earth, so such large frames worked on Mars, whereas on Earth they’d have the same issues as Yao.
The gravity is why they have to use those big metal bars when they display dinosaur skeletons here on earth.
They are just not capable of handling that much force.
not sure, just messing with ol' boy.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yes.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Depending on your definition
;)
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I guess I can see that
I looked over my grammar for the third time and it does sort of imply he’s retiring. probably better wording might have been, “If Vlad retires today…..”
so, ab03, I apologize for calling you a fuckhead, though not for calling you a dickhead.
dickhead…. :)
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
ok
and it always bothers me when I bring up a hypothetical and then someone asks me if its happening like I have some special knowledge or something.
Really? Happens to you a lot, does it? You keep on trying to find philosophical gems and people keep questioning the validity of your premise? Really?
something wrong with the validity of the premise
that Vlad is a HOFer right now?
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
See,
that’s why the grammar was at fault. because it muddled the premise.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
No
whether Vlad is a HOFer is not a premise. That’s the question.
Really, for someone who struggles with english, you should give the readers the benefit of the doubt. Next time someone “questions” something you’ve written, maybe you should figure out how you’re wrong.
now, see, that's just insulting
its not like I’m portugese and can’t speak the language, I’m just a technical person who sometimes makes grammar mistakes.
Just like the rest of you non-lawyer types…..
so give me a fucking break and stop acting like a dickhead…..
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
They may be overly technical here,
but perhaps if you used proper capitalization and grammar in other places?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
I have enough trouble trying to get the capitalization right on my code…..
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
maybe you could act less like a....
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Some of the arguments here are awesome.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I can't ask "Is he retiring"
without “qualifying it” (it’s not a qualification) with “This is only tangentially related to your point but…”
I don’t think that’s true
see above
and no, I don’t hate you by responding to Aquaman instead of you.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
/red3biggs
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Don't sass my boy
I can’t help it if you suck at English
by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Who pays for the "Official Affiliate" site and Mr. Spencer's work
because it would serve as a practical example for Mr. Spencer if, because of Wells’ contract, the Angels saw fit to cut the resources they dedicate to the website (if the team is indeed the one who pays him), and hire some kid straight out of J-school (or God forbid…a fan blogger straight out of “his mother’s basement” Copyright – Murray Chass)
this is the longest sentence ever to be written
since Dickens’ “A Tale of Two Cities”
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not that surprised they traded for Wells
I’m surprised they didn’t try to get a good deal. Toronto really wanted to get rid of Wells and the Angels had all the leverage. Why not try to get the best deal? I believe they could have driven a harder bargain and I’m stunned that they didn’t. Oh well, sucks to be an Angels fan.
Thank you Cliff Lee!
should have asked for
someone like Dana Eveland or Brad Mills or Marc Rzepczynski along with Wells. or maybe JP Arencibia. aren’t they way down on him?
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Or asked for the Blue Jays to pick up more of Wells' contract.
Or sent just Rivera for Wells. Or just Napoli. Or just agreed to take over the payments on Wells like some people do with cars. Really, anything would have been better.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
kinda like the White Sox
did with Rios
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
And both shitty deals originated from the same FO
Strange huh?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
um
wasn’t it Richardi who signed Wells and Rios?
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Yes?
Well, Riccardi. But yet.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
Sigh.
But yes.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
x
Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that the Rangers have “re-opened talks” with free agent Vladimir Guerrero.
and not surprised at all
I thought he’d be back anyways….lets hope Old school brotha uses him in the right way.
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
You assume that means he's limited to bench bat
but I bet it would be hard for him to accept that role
.
But Guerrero has struggled to find suitors and Ryan said Saturday at the Rangers’ FanFest event that the club would be open to a reunion as long as the money isn’t outrageous and it’s a one-year deal. “You’d love to have that bat,” said Ryan, “another right-handed bat on the bench, or him DHing when Michael Young is playing a position.”
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
It's down to Os, Angles, or Rangers
You have a good chance of being correct.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Don't the Angels
still have Matsui? isn’t one guy who can’t play the field at all (two if you include Abreu) enough for them?
and why isn’t Seattle interested. surely they need someone who can hit up there in Washington.
wait! breaking news…. the Mariners just signed Alice Cullen to be their number 2 starter and Cleanup hitter.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
well
that explains a lot.
and I’m sure that Matsui is about as athletic as a Molina Brother on Thanksgiving evening. But that’s neither here nor there.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
I think Troy Glaus would be cheaper, willing to accept a lesser role and a better fit on the roster
But so long as it’s a limited role okay, I guess.
Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.
Glaus
instantly becomes the Angels best third base option
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Except the whole glass shoulder thing.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Lyle Spencer is being a homer.
He does that largely because that’s what he’s paid to do, and you can’t really fault a person for that.
I meant right?
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me neither
Drop by Coming Home Newcastle for all your Newcastle United banter and news.
"Beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." ~Benjamin Franklin
This article is right down EG's alley
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Lane 17,
we’re waiting for you to fill your scorecard with the rest of your party. What do you mean there aren’t very many subscribers?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
You, sir, get a rec from me.
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Wow.
The fact that Vernon Wells is owed $86 million over the next four years — way more than he would get on the open market right now, or that any reasonable person would presumably agree to pay him — is relevant to analyzing the Angels adding him is something that I didn’t need to expound upon, I thought, because of the Inherently Obvious Postulate.
wow...that was awesome
I’ve always said you’re one of the best when talking about baseball. thx.
"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban
Adam you've made it bigtime...
Updated: Adam J. Morris just made many of these points at Lone Star Ball, well.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:26 PM CST reply actions
And actually that article is pretty good
Both articles together should make Reagins cry and Moreno fire him
No..
Don’t fire Reagins….Continue to make stupid, shitty moves.
Its like as a Tech fan you’re sad when Francionne got canned.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
+Forever!!!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
That's a great article
But the very 1st comment:
I think it’s a good trade. Not a GREAT trade, but it does make the Angels better.
LMAO, RIF!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Well after the paywall went up, the DMN commenters had to find somewhere to go comment.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
Angels Salary Comittments for 2011-2012
Yeah I agree the contract could look like an albatross in a couple of years, but the Halos can withstand it. They have nearly 130 million in salary commitments for 2011. Next year it drops to 74 million, w/ the loss of GMJ jr, Abreu, Kazmir, and Rodney’s contracts. They will still have room to negotiate a deal with Morales, and Weaver, while bringing up Super prospect, Mike Trout. I’m not a fan of the Wells contract, but based on a payroll of 120-140 million, I think the Halos will be just FINE!
Maybe they will be, that's not the point.
They’d be even better off without Wells. That’s the point.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
No, I think Angels fans just like being able to say "X will come off the books."
Now they have GMJ, in a few years, they’ll get to say it about Wells.
by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If you could have gotten TOR
to pay 70 of the 86 mil, do you make the deal?
by elvis1isking on Jan 24, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
So I'm paying $16M for Wells for the next 4 years?
Probably. Though he really isn’t a great fit in Texas.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
I meant from the Angels POV
Giving up Rivera and Napoli for Wells and only paying Wells $16mil isn’t all that bad a trade, IMO.
I just can’t get over why the Angels FO took on all that money. Even if they wanted to rid themselves of Rivera and Napoli and they wanted to get Wells, they could have gotten TOR to pay some of the salary (though I don’t know about $70mil).
The Angels just failed so miserably when negotiating this trade. It’s really unbelievable.
by elvis1isking on Jan 24, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Wells at 4/16
is a bargain. He’s not a star, but he’s not complete garbage
To Infinity. And BEYOND!!!
by YunelTheLazyLatino on Jan 24, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
I'd give him 4/16, but I don't think it's a bargain.
With his injury history and already being relegated so far down the defensive spectrum, there is a very high risk he wouldn’t even end up worth that.
well yea but what about extending those young guys plus adding other FA's
they can’t do both of those now……can they?
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
They will also have to replace Abreu, Kazmir and Rodney.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent point
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
As I said before Super prospect Mike Trout will be up either late 2011 or early 2012. There is no desire to bring back Rodney or Kazmir, both will likely be replaced with cheaper options.
by Michael Toland on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Which name do you post under on HH?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
its all good.....they'll trade Trout for some overpriced outfielder as early as the trade deadline
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
What does that have to do with the fact
That you are limiting your resources in adding other players since you vastly overpay Wells?
that's fine
but the point is they will need to be replaced. Trout, as good as he is, can only play one position. And you basically HAVE to replace them with cheaper options, and that will be hard to do in FA, and there just isn’t a lot to choose from when making trades for LAAA.
This trade makes the job of the Angels FO a hell of a lot harder than it needed to be for the next several years.
by elvis1isking on Jan 24, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
What evidence do we have the the Angels will fill the late inning relief roles or
Number 4 starting pitcher role with cheaper options?
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
"cheaper options"
Given this recent move I don’t think Angels have a damn clue what the word “cheaper” means. Rivera’s cheaper and the same player as Wells.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Odd, did you even read the post you are replying to?
GMJ, Abreu, Kazmir, and Rodney’s contracts are going off the books whether they acquire Wells or not. The question is whether Wells’ signing stands on its own merits with respect to what else the Angels could have had added instead, and the cost of acquiring him.
by KenAg on Jan 24, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Sock puppet?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Look pal, you just don't understand it
I think it’s a good trade. Not a GREAT trade, but it does make the Angels better.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
with the trade they are certainly a bit better
without the trade, they had the potential to be alot better
To Infinity. And BEYOND!!!
by YunelTheLazyLatino on Jan 24, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
That was totally tongue in cheek
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
It's mid January ...and they struck out on Beltre, Soriano and Crawford plus Napoli & Rivera ($ 11 million)
didn’t have a place on the Angels in 2011.
The Angels have this badass rotation and the Rangers have been fucking around in the off-season, not improving their team at all but telling the world they’re still “comfortable.”
85-90 wins puts your team in serious contention for the AL West and VWells helps the Angels get there in 2011.
It is a very expensive gamble by Arte Moreno but it’s not like The Contract is going to blind side him or come as a surprise (“Reagins, you didn’t tell me how much this is gonna cost!!!”.
The Napoli & Rivera contracts ($ 11 million) are gone and Kazmir/GMJ ($ 24 million) are gone after 2011. Hunter’s deal expires after 2012…they have a shit-load of money ($ 53 million not counting what happens with Weaver) coming off the books so the notion that this deal is going to paralyze the Angels is naive.
The BJs definitely benefit from the financial end and the Angels get killed but without question, the Angels got the best player in the deal. Is it a good trade for the Angels? Can’t say but I understand why they made it and I have great respect for their front office.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
I understand the pressure on Reagins to do something
in the face of his failures.
But to say that Rivera and Napoli didn’t have roles on the Angels next year is pretty ridiculous. If nothing else, Rivera replaces Matsui as the DH and Abreu moves from right to left with Hunter playing right. Is Morales fully healthy? Even so, only a moron starts Mathis over Napoli at Catcher, no matter how good Mathis’ defense is.
as far as the money goes, Arte has enough that it shouldn’t hamper him.
as far as who is the best player in the deal, I’m not so sure that it isn’t Mike Napoli, long term. Napoli is 29 this year, can still catch in the big leagues, is a 12 WAR over his 5 years so far, vs Wells, at 33, has accumulated 25.2 WAR over 12 years.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
See below on the CBS website per Scott Miller why Rivera & Napoli weren't going to
play for the Angels in 2011.
WAR is a deeply flawed stat and measuring Wells’ WAR stats from the last 5 years is a misrepresentation because of how much Wells was hurt or was playing hurt.
If Wells is healthy, it’s a slam-dunk they got the best player in the deal.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
And I just heard a report
Kevin Millwood says he’s in the best shape of his life heading into spring training.
oh, and Justin Thompson just started throwing on flat ground this week.
get it?
Mike Napoli is Victor Martinez starter kit. if the Angels sat him next year, they would be fools. regardless of what Scott Miller says.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Yeah
I just read that article. I expected it to be your standard puff piece saying how wonderful it was to pick up Wells and how crappy Rivera and Napoli were.
But it wasn’t. Miller ripped the Angels management, and rightly so.
And he NEVER. NEVER said that Rivera and Napoli wouldn’t have roles for the Angels in 2011. what he said is that Scoscia wanted Rivera and Napoli off the team because they feuded with him. mind you, as much as I admire Scoscia for being a great manager, and restoring the Angels, and getting them to play over their heads for years and years, Scoscia’s style didn’t really mesh with either Rivera or Napoli. Actually, Rivera might be simply uncoachable. For a guy who can obviously hit the crap out of the ball, he’s gonna bounce around a lot (with a Milton Bradley like future in the making). I’d love to see him on the White Sox just to see who would win the Rivera Guillen smack-down.
Napoli, OTOH, is most definitely the antithises of Mike Scoscia. He’s not fast, he’s not a contact hitter, and he’s not great defensively. But Scoscia couldn’t help but keep playing him. Because Napoli does things that win games. like get on base. and hit for power. You know, the things that Jeff Mathis doesn’t do.
Catchers with a career slugging average of .485 should not be riding pine. Combine that with an OBP of .346 and…. well…… no one is so stupid as to leave this guy on the bench for too long.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Miller explained why the Angels felt the way they did about RIvera & Napoli.
I heard multiple writers on XM who cover the Angels say over the weekend that Rivera & Napoli didn’t have a place on the 2011 team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
again
place is not the same as role.
I’m sure that Scoscia is relieved and has probably said so to several Angels writers “off-the-record”. But that doesn’t mean that Rivera and Napoli can’t play for him. Hell, no Manager can simply bench a player who he doesn’t like. Especially when that guy hits 26 homers in 450 AB’s. And can catch. In fact, I can see Reagins being given an ultimatum to trade Napoli and Rivera by Scoscia.
In fact, the problem I have with this trade isn’t the money, or the fact that they got Wells for Napoli and Rivera. Its what they didn’t get.
JP Arencibia would have been nice. or Brad Emaus. maybe Adeiny Hechavarria….. Darin Mastroianni, Anthony Gose (well… probably not him) Kenny Wilson maybe.
That throw in guy (as long as he’s not a rapist) makes the difference between a simple “your problem for my problem” deal (which it seems this is what this was) and a real barn burner.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Rivera & Napoli could have played for the Angels but the powers that be
in LAAA (track record shows they had one of the best front offices/field management in MLB for the last 10 years) didn’t want to pay them $ 11 million combined and watch the team finish under .500.
The Angel FO saw the Rangers fucking around, high-fiving each other and telling the world how comfortable they were and decided not to stand pat.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
so,
now they’re gonna spend $80 million to finish under .500
Must be because their track record.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
How does Wells help the Angels improve on their 2010?
Taking Rivera and Napoli out of the lineup is a big blow to what they did in 2010. Wells may offset that loss but that still doesn’t improve them.
Now…adding Morales back and a full year of haren may improve them but by getting Wells they merely stopped the bleeding of benching two players who combined for 40+ HRs and 120 RBI last year (if in fact the Angels would have done that which I highly doubt but whatever).
As for the financial side of things the Angels will regret this for awhile. According to Cots the Angels will have roughly a 150 million dollar payroll in 2011 (depending on how their arb cases go). That likely takes them out of the midseason trade market of anybody making decent to big money. Either that or they will have to throw in extra prospects to make a deal happen. Either way its bad for them.
In 2012 they currently have 80 million committed with Weaver being a 12-15 arb guy, Piniero a FA, Kendrick and Aybar each being ~6 mil each arb guys, if they keep Abreu theres another 8 million, Rodneys a FA, and Morales will be a arb guy. Thats either a lot of salary or a lot of holes to fill with a already inflated payroll.
But looking at 2013 and beyond the Angels currently have almost 50 million (assuming they exercise Haren and Santanas options) committed to three players for 2013. Not a recipe for long term success financially
And the Rangers have $ 32 million plus whatever they're paying Josh (if they kept him) on the books for 2013 as well.
I’ve heard several people on XM 175 say that Napoli & Rivera had no place on the team in 2011.
Scott Miller from CBS website says the same thing this morning and goes into further detail as to why.
It’s a hellacious gamble by Moreno but he did get the best player in the deal.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
btw, I listen to 175 too
and Dibble and Menelo and Kennedy and that ex Baltimore GM who’s name escapes me are much better than given credit for.
but, saying that Napoli had no place on the Angels was PURE spin. Napoli in Toronto is gonna hit 30 homers, and anyone who was pissing about losing Wells is gonna shut up real quick.
And Wells is not going to like having to face King Felix, Brett Anderson, Trevor Cahil, CJ Wilson, and Colby Lewis a bunch this year.
on another note. if Moreland falters this year, what do you think our chances of making a trade for the Prince is?
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Of course it is spin
When have you ever heard a team make this type of deal and then come out and say “we got hosed”. The Angels are going to pump Wells to high heaven in order to try and soothe over the casual fan who probably only knows of the Vernon Wells name not how hes played the last three years. They are going to point out his bounceback year last year and all the LA equivalent of DMN readers will rejoice. If that means putting down two players who no longer are part of the team so be it.
Napoli and Rivera may well have been guys the Angels had soured upon. But if this trade didn’t go down I find it highly unlikely given their production, lazy or not, and their salaries that they would have been benched simply because the manager doesn’t like them.
The Wells acquisition is a net neutral for the Angels at best. It would take a similar season to 2010 for Wells to come close to replacing what Napoli and Rivera gave the club in 2010. But the full effect of the Wells deal won’t be felt until next winter at the earliest when they start looking at their checkbooks and realize they can’t go get that impact player because of that extra 10 million or so they are paying Wells instead of Rivera and Napoli.
that's exactly what I just said above.
I think we’re in violent agreement on this. I’ll go farther and say that Napoli’s gonna have a big year in Toronto and that’s gonna make Reagins look even worse.
and Rivera. well… I’m not a fan, but his contact rates in this day and age are pretty awesome.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Chances of trading for Prince?
Not good.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
You write pretty good for a Comment Herder.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
well
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm from the streets, son.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
it doesn't mean you can't use proper grammar
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
you have to be a computer programmer if you want to use crappy grammar.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
proper grammar = diminshed street cred
look it up
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
While y'all are busy correcting my grammar...
why don’t you tell me the rules for proper usage of colons and semicolons….
Thanks, gang.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Okay, Chicago Boy....
YOU GUYS!!!
You guys wanna grinder?
You eat at Philly’s Best on Belmont Avenue by the Vic Theater?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Their pizza is pretty good....their grinders are good.
This was 10 years ago…so, yeah….
Also….Cafe Luigi on Clark (between Deming and Wrightwood) has a great NY Style pie…
I love living vicariously through people…I miss Chicago :(
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I love the food, just not the people....savvy?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
the semicolon (;) is one of the most
misused punctuation marks ever.
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
I have a friend that uses one after every sentence...EVERY! LAST! ONE!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
you have a friend!
sry… low hanging fruit
!
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
No chatspeak please.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I misuse 1-4 and mis/overuse 5.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yeah, commas really could be number one because of such common overuse.
Myself being an included guilty party. I love commas.
you eat at Fuzzy's today?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
A guy, on a professional forum, that I post on
Insists on using a comma, about every three, to five words. I want to totally, kill him.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Semi-colon is one.
Comma- because people just put them wherever they want
Then colon, hyphen, parenthesis
semicolons and commas
are the two that people seem to have the most problems with on a consistent basis
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
semi colons
are to be used when the part of the sentence before the semi colon can stand on its own and the part after is just extra information. colons generally precede a list of some sort. Or so said the paper editors at seminary last year
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
to be clear,
it doesn’t matter if the phrase (not sentence) before or after the semicolon can “stand on its own.” It just matters that one of them can
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
and to be more precise,
instead of phrase, let’s say clause
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Go ahead and give us an example.
Wrong and right.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Say you want to print out the numbers 0-9
Wrong:
for (int x =0; x < 10; x++);
system.out.println(x);
Right:
for (int x = 0; x < 10; x++)
system.out.println(x);
Wait, this is grammar? Nevermind.
I only know Java from UIL
and C++ from two college classes.
I grew tired of computer science after that.
Alas
I can make a career out of Java.
and I’ll bet I make as much as some of these fancy marriage smashers too.. :)
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
A decent portion of my job is currently Java.
But one day I will be the boss…
…and the code I tell people to write for me will be in Java or C# or something like that cause there are tons of people at least competent in those languages, but for the projects I coded myself I’d at least have more freedom.
When
when you are the boss you will make everyone code in Java just like you do because you won’t want to have to learn new languages to keep up with your employees.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Eh, learning new languages is easy.
But I don’t really want to be paying for everyone I hire to learn a new language (although at least it would make sure any bad habits in that language they picked up were the same as mine).
I’d make them program in Scala if anyone knew it…
LOL
and you are right about new languages being easy.
Of course, it doesn’t really matter. you put an add out for Scala programmers and you’ll get them. ASL programmers, Cobol, C#, JSP, LISP, Ada, Pascal, VB, J++, SNOBOL, Perl, SQL, Ruby on rails, Ruby not on Rails, Python, Anaconda (just made that one up), or whatever.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
system
must be capitalized. (assuming you are doing this in Java)
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
now you're just making things difficult....
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
grammar, by definition, is difficult as fuck
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure why they say that
fucking ain’t hard. finding someone to do it with is not so easy, but the actual mechanics, not so much…..
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
and that's why
I let other people edit my papers
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
Comment Herder
Is that anything like a nerfherder?
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
Comment Herder is what some cranky-ass called Adam once
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Of course not, don't be ridiculous
/Balki Bartokomous
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
I'm related to Larry Appleton...trueph
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
So, I've just now realized that the Angels took on his entire contract
I feel like MY would have made infinitely more sense for the Angels if they were willing to act clinically insane.
they got $5M
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
well
we could have given them Young and $6 million for Napoli and Rivera.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
No, they did not.
They did not even get a bus token.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
That's what I thought.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
that would be kinda funny if it came out he did try...Angel fans would go nuts
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
SoCal slides into the ocean
And we will be beach front so we can all starting saying “Broooo” and stuff.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Probably need a hedge trimmer for that thing.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I'm getting my taint waxed
I may wanna cross that line, dude-brah.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
It sucks...
I did it so I could get my Cliff Lee Taint Tattoo. But now that he’s gone, the hedges are overgrown.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
man that hurts like hell
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
The waxing...
…or the implied penetration by a foreign object?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
SHAVE PARTY AT MY HOUSE!!!!!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Arizona Bay!
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
The George Strait song would be true now. There is Ocean Front Property in Arizona!
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Holy shit......George is a fucking prophet!!
I need to call him for the lotto numbers…..brb.
- LSB has ADD -
I was sooooooo hoping
this was an article that had a Moreno quote predicting the world would end in 2012.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
maybe the nationals gm
hoping to be able to cut bait early when Werth fizzles
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
According to Seth Rogen, George Lucas believes that the world will end in 2012.
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/01/george_lucas_fears_2012_apocal.html
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
Dear George:
Freeze yourself deep underground and take a copy of the new Star Wars versions with you. Leave the original footage with someone above ground.
are you saying that he should have used 'apart'
as opposed to ‘a part’?
because ‘a part’ is correct here
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Mike E has corrected people who say "alot" a lot,
so he was making the analogy I guess to illustrate the irony that he screwed up “a part”.
Yeah, but Tag thought AC was correcting your usage of 'a part', not Mike E's,
but AC was taking a jab at Mike E, but it looked like he was correcting you, so that’s why Tag said it was correct.
Dig.
Que sera, sera.
yeah, i did not read Mike E's 'apart'
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
QUICK, get a prop plane up in here!!!!!!!
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
If you want a summary of this article (which was linked in the A.M.)
Just go to my post in that thread on it.
Good god.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Dude no need to be playa hatin' on Mike E
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
better than the Josey Wales bot
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
yes THUMBS was on earlier, but glad he's not on right now
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Ran out of time on the library's free internet
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
OT: Jeff Pearlman tracks down internet haters
What the article glosses over is that Pearlman was justifying why he thinks it is ok for him suspect that Jeff Bagwell used steroids, even though he admits there is no proof other than 1) everybody else was doing it and 2) Bagwell got bigger.
I’m thinking Pearlman tracked down some other people and got some more interesting responses.
Somebody else did that, too.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Late.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Calcaterra or however you spell it
was talking about it earlier today. He linked to the 2 guys who Pearlman references in the article. Interesting stuff, and it doesn’t cast Pearlman in a very good light.
"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 24, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Silly rabbits
Always dieing.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Keanu Reeves: Two More 'Matrix' Movies
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
holy shit what the fuck
oh wait now I get it….these are the only parts he can get.
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Man, is the movie industry really this bad?
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
If Hollywood is where good ideas go to die, there is something sort of ironic to see the L’Anaheim’s hometown nine consummate an expensive mistake of this magnitude in time for the same season that will see the theatrical release of a certain years-overdue film of now-dubious educational value.
Referring to Moneyball.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
i wonder how it feels to piss 80 million dollars down the toilet
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Heh
But if mistakes are a recurring theme, then perhaps it’s appropriate that Tony Reagins has managed to fall into his predecessor’s exact footsteps when it comes to making major-money mistakes with veteran outfielders. Reagins’ repeating Bill Stoneman’s massive mistake with Little Sarge may well be the self-capping gesture of a now worse-than-wasted winter for the Angels.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Ask the Angels.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Or the Tidy Bowl guy after he hits the lotto
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
no
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Kip and Uncle Rico
don’t like this response.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
oh, it's the same cast? i can give it a shot
as long as it"s as good as the Geico Caveman tv show
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
that show was funny
for about 1/2 an episode
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
Vote for Pedro?
ugh….
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
the Caveman show
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
Caveman show was a terrible idea.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
What other commercials have been turned into TV shows?
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
California Raisins?
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
Baby Bob
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
Good call sir...
I know it isn’t a commercial, but I heard they’re coming put with an Angry Birds tv show. Unreal.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
i also heard this
I don’t see how the constant homicide of green pigs is funny though
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
None that I can think of.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Pedro was on Eastbound and Down this past season
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
He played the straight guy on that show though
I don’t think he was supposed to be funny
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
I want
Freaks and Geeks back on
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
yes
they did a good job of casting the first time, and I didn’t know any of those people when it first started. I trust him
"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill
"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis
The Matrix
Am I the only person who actually liked the second and third films?
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
no i liked them as well
just nowhere near as good as the 1st. thats what was disappointing
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
True
I don’t think they were as good either, but judging by most of the reviews I read at the time, a lot of people seemed to think they were the worst two films ever made, and that the Wachowski brothers should have been drawn, quartered, burned, and after they were dead, that a Terminator should be sent back in time to abort them before birth.
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
isn't one of those bros into some weird shit?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Who isn't?
/Rex Ryan
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
yea I dont get that either......I own all 3 anyways.
but i liked the terminator comment, well done.
"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW
Heh
Yeah, I love Terminators. I think that’s also why I liked the Matrix films so much- both were set in a dystopian future which came about following a human-machine war. I’m a total sucker for pretty much any film or TV show that follows that concept.
"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young
I hated the ending to the third one.
So the machines say that if Neo will take down Agent Smith for them, they will stop their attack on the human settlement. Neo does his part, and the machines stop their attack. The humans start celebrating like they won the war, but they did not. At best, the humans and the machines have an uneasy truce that could be broken at any moment. Seriously, what do the machines have to lose if they break their word and resume their attack? I guess this will be covered in the new movies, but that is part of what pissed me off. The end of the third movie did not feel like an ending. The end of the war was just dangling there unresolved. So they left it wide open for more movies, which is a crappy trend in Hollywood lately. Can we not get a movie with a satisfying ending? Does every movie have to have some ambiguity so that they can make a sequel? Shit. Rant over. Continue on.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
Good memory...
if you asked me how it ended I would have no idea. I’m not even sure I finished the last one.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
I remember it because it pissed me off so much.
Otherwise, I surely would have forgotten it by now.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
The first one, despite a plot hole bigger than Keanu Reeve's ability to act wooden,
was (fairly) new and interesting and a well-executed take on a cool concept.
The second and third brought little to the table except new action sequences and a twist which was revealed in the lamest of all possible ways.
The second and third films...
were okay, not great, but not horrible.
The problem is that the first one was so great that I think it made those two seem much worse than they really are.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I went on a double date to the first Matrix movie
it was so bad that we left before it was over. I never watched any of the other ones after that. I know this is a minority opinion.
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
but....
he’s dead.
fuck, I hate when they make a movie and kill off the main character and then try and bring him back later.
OTOH a matrix Prequel wouldn’t be so bad. with Reeves as the original “One” who learns what the matrix is and goes around freeing people, eventually building Zion. that would be nice. (as long as there’s no Morpheus in it, since its supposed to be hundreds of years before the first Matrix)
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Yeah, so I replied above
Just to keep the confusion going.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I thought this was about the additional Matrix movies at first. It still fit.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
wtf?
sorry closure, unintentional plagarism.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
you see they are cloning a wooly mammoth
so you might here soon
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
No I haven't,
and that sounds awesome…where’s tha Sabre Tooth Tiger?
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
it'll be cloned in four to five years they're saying.
i’m fucking nervous
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Free Pizza for Super Bowl Overtime
DALLAS – No Super Bowl has ever gone into overtime but if Super Bowl XLV does, Papa John’s will be doling out free pizza.
The national pizza chain on Monday announced that in the event of OT, it will give a free large pie to every customer enrolled in it’ loyalty program.
For more details and to register to receive the free three-topping pizza, please visit www.papajohns.com .
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
i dont understand
are naming people that that got laid out by Beltre?
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
thats awesome
i guess a taco is the price i pay for not watching many Red Sox games
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Come on. Admit it.
You work for the Papa John’s sales department, and you are trying to get people to join the loyalty program.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
papa johns pan pizza yummmmm
with that garlic butter fattening stuff…. god im so fat right now…
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
I went a few years without eating Papa John's because the one near my apartment sucked ass.
Now that I have moved into my first house near a good Papa John’s, I should probably join their loyalty program due to the amount of Papa John’s that I eat. Damn I missed their garlic butter.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
Nope
But I do know there are a lot of broke, 20-something, pizza eatin’ fools here though.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I knew you were trying to hook us up. I was just funnin' ya.
These freebie bets can be amusing sometimes. My favorite was when Taco Bell offered a free taco if the Mir space station hit a big target they put out in the middle of the ocean. It missed. Think the Superbowl will go into OT?
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
It never has before in history, so not really.
It’s a really safe bet for Papa’s, in other words.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Exactly.
Just like the odds of Mir falling on a tiny target in the vast ocean. So it is just a great marketing ploy to get people to sign up for their loyalty program. Well it is working for at least one person, because I will be signing up for it. Not because I believe that the Superbowl will go into OT, but because I do eat enough Papa John’s to make a loyalty program worthwhile to me.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
I've been signed up for years, but only order about 1 pie a year
It does get you online only specials though.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
you never forget about me,
and i love you for it
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Just make sure I et an invite to the next Jaguars excursion
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
*get
WTF, anyone else having trouble with Chrome/LSB?
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
It's like I can post the headline
Just now, it took ~15 secs to tab down here…fuck.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Oh, I closed my password manager
It is going much better now.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
You got it
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Grandma's canned venison (think beef stroganof) over no-egg noodles
Yummy.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Canned meat?
Man that sounds terrible Rodney.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
Canned as in a glass container
It’s just an old fashioned term.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I actually used to enjoy "canning"
I had a huge (like 10-15 jars) pressure cooker and everything. It’s the only way I could make my own hot sauce that was balanced acid-wise and could contain Habeneros.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Papa John's pizza tastes like shit.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
And you know how shit tastes like because...
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I knew somebody would take this literal, congrats.
If shit tastes like tomato sauce sugar in it, then sur, i’ve tasted shit before.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
the real question is, would you eat shit if it were wrapped in bacon?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Turkey bacon?
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
It really depends
on the individual franchise. I’ve had good and bad Papa John’s. Of the big 3 (Pizza Hut, Papa John’s, Dominos) I have Papa Johns as number 2. I also understand why Pizza Hut is competing on price these days.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Pizza Hut's thin crust is the best.
"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.
by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
Too bad their toppings suck.
Pizza Hut bacon should not be called bacon.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Of the major chains, Pizza Hut's standard pan crust is my favorite.
I’d like better quality rest of the ingredients, but the crust is the most important part and they get it right.
my room mate works at pizza hut
it took about 2 weeks before i got sick of their pizza
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
I bet you like it hand tossed.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
TWSS
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Now we know why your wife cheats.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Booshaklakah
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Seriously man, allocate more to the budget.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Do tell.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Yes way, man.
If I am eating Pizza Hut I prefer stuffed crust
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
Yep I have had good and bad.
Once at the same location. It was great under one manager, then crap when they got a new manager. And it was pretty much an overnight change. The one I live by now is pretty good. Much better than the Pizza Hut nearby.
That being said, Papa Murphy’s absolutely rules.
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
I liked them when I was a kid
haven’t had it since though
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
I haven't seen a Pizza Inn in at least 10 years
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
McKinney
75 and Virginia Parkway.
I’ve seen others, but I can’t remember.
on other restaurants, is there a Taco Loco south of Oklahoma? I went to the one in Durant and was thoroughly unimpressed.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
The last one I remember was in Eastland
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
It's gone
They tried one place that really sucked, but now there’s a Pizza Heaven. Really good pizza buffet that’s easy on the wallet.
by Perfect Zero on Jan 24, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
rowlett, denton, and on 35w around flower mound area..... are the places i know
it is buffet style now
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
there is one on 35
in the Keller area. That’s the only one right off 35 in Tarrant that I know of.
by elvis1isking on Jan 24, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Abilene got one within the last year.
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by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
That's like buying a Nintendo
and thinking it’s the new in thing
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
Buffet is good at lunch, price wise.
Dinner or weekend they pear your wallet.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
my girlfriend and i where looking for one in south arlington
and my iphone took use to a pizza Den……not the same thing apparently
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
They've "reinvented" their brand opening up new concept stores....
one of which is 5 minutes from my house.
Hamburger or Sausage thin crust from PI, ftw.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Papa Murphs ain't bad.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
it's good and cheap
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
dominos
deep dish is the best for chain pizza…
mr jims is delicious for cheapo pizza
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I loved Dominos deep dish as a kid.
I can’t eat it anymore. Heck, I can barely stand to smell it anymore. Just so disgustingly greasy.
Exactly
It comes out faster than it goes in because of that too.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
And Pizza Hut dish might be worse
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
I watched my brother make Pizza at PH once.
The amount of oil was disturbing. I like the end result, though.
I like Dominos new recipe
2 medium 2 topping for $5.99 a piece. I can handle that
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
Is this the part of the thread where the wall next to me falls down and there's a Dominoes team standing there?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Congratulations, philkid.
Sounds like you just became a man.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes except it's in a dream.
And you are in Mineral Wells.
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by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Well played Mauer
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks I try.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Enjoy the play.
don’t applaud yourself
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry pops
Forgot to let the game come to me.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
haha
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
What they don't tell you in the commercials
is that Dominos took $12 million from Uncle Sam to rework their pizzas with real cheese :)
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
No kidding, what a joke
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
it was a matter of National Security MC Cahill
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Mr Jims if fucking awesome
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Yes...I'm going to think of some things I will not eat and put up a FanPost later on, I'll blast all my followers on twitter, be on the lookout
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
If we're going chain thin crust...give me Pizza Inn every day of the week and 4 times on Tuesday.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Can't remember
the last Pizza inn I saw. I remember when Pizza inn and Pizza Hut were probably the top 2 chains.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
Just looked them up and there's one by my place on 3040 in Lewisville...
thin crust for dinner tonight I suppose.
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Schwann's
Frozen pizza that blows delivery pizza away.
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Schwann's is a home delivery service
frozen entrees, vegetables, deserts, meats, etc….
most of their stuff is good, but their pizzeria style pizza is kicking. great sauce, very good cheese, and a crust to die for…
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Hey, the son of the guy who owns Schwann's lives in my neighborhood.
I think the guy who owns them lives here, too, in a nicer neighborhood ,but don’t quote me.
Orlandos in Lubbock FTMFW
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by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
I have.
Just a very low FPC, but my wFPC is pretty high.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Also I hate almost the entire pizza in 15 minutes, it's that freaking good.
It was a medium regular crust, primo pepperoni
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
It's a good crust though, not super thick, but not too thin.
Prefect for a hand tossed crust.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
...
BNightengale: #mlb The Dbacks# plan to use pitcher Micah Owings at 1B as well as on the mound, GM Kevin Towers just announced.
I want to see how this works out and if more teams would be willing to try it.
Brew Crew
Did it with Brooks Kieschnieck in his last year with MIL. He’d DH in interleague games, play OF, and relieve.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
03-04
03 he played sparingly in the field. 04 Strictly a pitcher and PH.
04 he was better statistically on the mound. I remember some of the stories he told when he got inducted in the College HOF….the guy was a hoot. He signed a ML deal with Houston and never got called up. He said the only offer he had was from Balt in 2006 and said he’d rather be at home with his family than move to Baltimore.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
i dont know why but it fascinates me when position players pitch
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
But watching them play the field is fun...
ala Oswalt in the OF for the Phillies last year….
I wonder what was going through his mind….I’m 1 win away from being the franchise leader in W’s for the Stros. Now I’m playing LF in an extra inning game for the Phillies…
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
That is why college baseball can be so interesting.
Now pitching… the second baseman!
Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.
The ping is distracting.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
man, i love me that ping every once in awhile.
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
The other thing I can't stand...
Is the random 2 run bomb in the 5th. The entire dugout comes out and high fives the guy. Can you imagine if that happened in the majors? The next guy would would proabably be brushed back at the least.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Two-way players...
are fascinating to me. I want to see more of them especially good ones. I thing Owings is below average at both.
i wish that ambidextrous pitcher that played in the minors had worked out
he would have been almost as cool as watching jim abbott
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Venditte is still in the Yankees minor league system.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=vendit001pat
I wish he would get a chance to fail at a level above high-A.
did you here about his interaction with the switch hitter
by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
i did *hear* about that
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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
You are on a roll today.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
They prefer the term Custodians of the Language.
heh
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
You use your tongue purdyer than a twenty dollar whore
"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde
LOL
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Heard this-she didn't have teeth.
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Pretty decent numbers too
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Guy in his mid-20s in A ball should put up good numbers.
I have no clue why he was there so long. Nothing to prove.
Smart
He always had a better bat than arm. Always wondered why no one picked him up to be a bench player.
by Marisa Ingemi on Jan 24, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
YAY!
the second coming of Brooks Kieschnieck……
I love it. I’d probably use Carlos Zambrano as a pinch hitter some more too….
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Especially if you wanted to see a murder occur on a professional baseball field.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
I've been on the "Wieters should also close even in the bigs" bandwagon since day one.
I may have even created it.
It's freaking January......and the morning thread has over a thousand comments!!
No one comes to LSB anymore…..it’s too crowded.
- LSB has ADD -
Obsession Club in full session today.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
I'm not sure if this is a joke or for real...
BizballMaury Maury Brown
Dr. Scholl’s has signed Rex & Michelle Ryan to appear in a series of commercials, “For The Love of Feet,” promoting Co’s podiatric products
by octoberty on Jan 24, 2011 6:05 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
stop using twittEr
/mike e
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
So if you're the Angels and it's mid January do you stand pat and not do anything?
They have a potential juggernaut as a rotation and they didn’t have places on the team for Napoli & Rivera (part-time players $ 11-12 million, really?).
I think they saw what the Giants did in 2010 and that 90 wins could win the AL West very easily. The Angels have a lot of money coming off the books in the next two years ($ 40 million between GMJ, Kazmir, Hunter) so the Wells contract shouldn’t cripple them from doing anything else to improve their team.
Is paying Wells $ 86 million over the next four years ridiculous? Of course it is. What’s worse, paying Wells $ 86 million over four years or Beltre / Young $ 96 million over the next three years?
Reagins, Moreno, Scioscia are getting killed on this but their track record of success shouldn’t be dismissed. When you win the AL West 5 times in 6 years and also set attendance records along the way…you’re going to get some latitude from me when it comes to knowing what you need to do to make your team better.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
I SAID DON'T BITE.
Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.
by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 24, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
Two AL West titles.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
No we've been over this.
You couldn’t identify anything that Reagins did to win those division titles. Those division titles were won with Stoneman’s players. You identified Abreu as contributing to the 2009 division title, but the Angels would have won the division easily without Abreu (as evidenced by Abreu’s 2.5 WAR and the Angels 10 game lead).
You lost that argument. Don’t bring it up again.
Is it really worth your time
to try to get Josey to admit to losing an argument? Really? Couldn’t you better spend the time going to www.bigtits.com or somesuch and rub one out?
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That website grosses me out
But yeah, everyone would be better off installing trollblock or somesuch, since they can’t seem to help themsevles, much to the devolution of this blog.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
There is such a website?
I just kind of randomly generated an url. I guess I should have assumed someone would have taken it.
"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington
You didn't think "bigtits.com" would be a real website?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Well, they are just trying to feed the homeless
And they say MEN have fetishes???
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
feed the hungry
breast milk?
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Haha
Yeah, I click on everything, and that was a real link…lots of fat chicks with huge honkers. I go for the svelte/fit look myself, although that is getting harder and harder to find.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Reagins made several moves that helped both division winning teams.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
I didn't try to name what he did this morning. Reagins signed Hunter, traded Cabrera for Garland, signed Oliver &, Fuentes, let Colon
hit free agency and traded for Tex (who was a monster down the stretch and in post-season).
The 2008 Tony Reagins Angels won 100 games, 6 more games than the Bill Stoneman 2007 Angels.
Wanna jump over to 2009?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
Thumbs, President of the Tony Reagins Fan Club.
A club conspicuously lacking in members these days as people realize he is a shill.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
The 2008 Angels won the AL West with a 21 game lead
The 2008 Tony Reagins Angels (Hunter, Garland, Oliver, Tex) contributed 8.8 WAR (Fuentes wasn’t on the 2008 team).
The 2008 Bill Stoneman Angels (everyone else) contributed 31 WAR.
The Angels won because of players Stoneman acquired. Everyone else was inconsequential.
I'm missing something here
How does a team win 100 games while scoring the 10th most runs in their league. and they were only 5th in runs allowed too.
oh, here it is. they overperformed their runs scored/runs allowed by 12 games!!!!!!!!! In 2009 they overperformed by 5 games. Sure they probably win the west in 09 at least anyway, but I doubt 88 wins in 2008 wins the west.
So, was it Reagins who won it for the Angels, or Mike Scoscia…..
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
Paying Wells is almost definitely worse.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Why is it worse to give 4/86 to Wells than 3/96 to Beltre & Young?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."
First, that's not what we're paying Beltre and Young.
We’re paying Beltre $45 million over the next 3 and Young $39 million. (5/80 contract with $15 million deferred).
So that’s $84 million over the next 3 years for both.
Just last year, Beltre posted a higher WAR (7.1) than Wells did from 2007-2010 (7.0).
Young + Beltre will, without a doubt, outperform Wells in terms of WAR over the next three years. Hell, I would bet serious, serious money that Beltre does it all by himself.
This isn’t hard, Josey. Don’t make it hard.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
Reagins, Moreno and Scocia are "going to get some latitude from" you
God, I can’t imagine how peaceful their sleep will be tonight. The’ll dream of dumb-ass trolls giving the thumbs up to dumb-deals.
And you realize “Young / Beltre” are actually two players, correct? Young is not a modifer to Beltre. Two entirely separate human beings.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
you are repeating yourself
Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.
that feeds you
It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
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It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST
Will someone come over and put a shiv deep into my step mother-in-law's neck?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
steaks on the grill...
mine has your name on it.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Is she bangable?
/miles
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
And enthusiastic?
/woowoo
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Oh, and this is why I don't post personal information around here
You people (myself included) are sick sick sick.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
What's the worst that could happen
by throwing out your telephone number or address?
by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Really? He wants me to shiv his mama-in-law in the neck per "Casino"
and asking if his sister in law is hot is the sick part?
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
by AceJC on Jan 24, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
no, she left yesterday.
she’s close to going into full rebound mode on someone…I’ll keep you in the loop.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Tell her I said, "Hi/Hello/Hey/Whattup", whatever fits the mood.
Roughriders in 3 months.
Que sera, sera.
she lives in West Palm...for now...
and we’re doing a few RR games this year.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
you and I, not me and her.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I'm sure the allure of watching Guilder Rodriguez turn a gapper into a triple
could make any gal move to these parts.
Que sera, sera.
that is not a good condOm choice
/mike e
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
she likes exotic creatures...give me something in Italian.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
You know she posts on here, right?
There are, in fact, girls named Josey.
Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.
Good.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
You know she posts on here, right?
There are, in fact, girls whiney cunts named Josey.
"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
Henry Harya
Is obviously a made up name.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde
by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 10:48 PM CST reply actions
He drinks Pepsi-Colas with Josh Garoon for sure.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
by thedirkatron on Jan 25, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions
I love it when AJM gets up in the morning and says to himself, "Today I shall ownership some fool right in his fucking face until he cries and/or bleeds" and then makes that shit happen with his words.
Greatness.
The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)
Yep. He got him with his manpenis, that's for sure.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

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