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Vernon Wells, and why the contract matters

ANAHEIM, CA - APRIL 05:  The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim team owner Arte Moreno stands on the field prior to their game against the Minnesota Twins on Opening Day at Angel Stadium on April 5, 2010 in Anaheim, California.  (Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images)

When we were taking geometry in high school, my friend Henry Harya created what he called the "Inherently Obvious Postulate."  He said that, if something is inherently obvious, we shouldn't have to do a formal proof of it.  If you are trying to prove something, and an element of it is provable through the "Inherently Obvious Postulate," then you can skip those steps by invoking the postulate and move on to the more meaningful parts of the proof.

The fact that Vernon Wells is owed $86 million over the next four years -- way more than he would get on the open market right now, or that any reasonable person would presumably agree to pay him -- is relevant to analyzing the Angels adding him is something that I didn't need to expound upon, I thought, because of the Inherently Obvious Postulate.

Apparently, that's not the case.  While most people have pointed out the folly of the trade from Anaheim's perspective because of the contract, there are a few hardy holdouts who insist otherwise, on the "there's no salary cap/its not my money" grounds.  For example,Angels' beat writer for the official Angel website Lyle Spencer:

Predictably, the Angels' acquisition of Vernon Wells at the expense of Mike Napoli and Juan Rivera has the critics howling. They do that largely because that's what they're paid to do, and you can't really fault a person for that. It's the carping of fans that is somewhat baffling.

The Angels just landed a three-time All-Star at 32, with four years on his contract, for two players who might not have had starting jobs but will get shots to play every day in their new environment. You have to be reaching hard not to like that.
 
The big talking point is Wells' huge contract, which wouldn't have been an issue back in the day when it was the game that mattered, not economics. If I'm an Angels fan, I ignore this aspect of the deal. Arte Moreno gave it his OK. If he doesn't have to raise ticket prices, the bottom line should be of no concern.


For all the slow people on the blog, I'm going to spell this out, while typing real slowly so that you can keep up...

Every team has a finite amount of resources that it can devote to expenses.  Any expenses, not just payroll, and any team. 

You can say, "Hey, what about the Yankees, they can spend whatever they want!"  But that's not really true.  In the first place, if the Yankees start spending $400 million per year on payroll, and give Cliff Lee a 6 year, $240 million deal just to make sure they land him, you can believe there will be consequences.  The luxury tax will go up, or there may be more of a push for a soft cap, or there may be some other reaction...but part of the reason the Yankees don't spend more, even though they can if they want, is that they are maintaining a sort of equilibrium with MLB, understanding that if they get too aggressive with payroll, MLB will be forced to slap their hands and put tighter restrictions in place.

In addition, you have the fact that the Yankees owners want to make money.  They want to win, sure...but they also are in this to make money, lots and lots of money. 

In any case, the Yankees have a finite amount of resources they can spend.  If they didn't, they'd have given Gerrit Cole a billion dollars to sign, they'd have given Cliff Lee whatever he wanted, and every major free agent that hits the market would be offered double or triple from New York what anyone else would pay.

So even though Anaheim is a large market team, they still have finite resources to devote to their various expenses.  The amount of resources they choose to devote is, I imagine, flexible...they can spend more if certain opportunities arise, they can spend less if they don't feel value is out there, or Arte Moreno can go all Gene Autry and decide he's going to spend whatever he has to to guarantee a title in his waning years.

And Anaheim has chosen to devote a good chunk of its finite resources to a player who isn't all that great, who doesn't make them that much better this year. 

Again, you can take the Lyle Spencer approach and say, well, who cares, the team is better, if it doesn't affect ticket prices, what should the fans care?*

*  Spencer is also pushing a fallacy common to sports journalists and fans alike, linking ticket prices to expenditures.  In reality, ticket prices and other sources of revenues are what ultimate determine expenses, not the other way around.  Let's not pretend that any owner isn't going to charge as much as he thinks he can get for a ticket, regardless of what payroll is.  If ticket prices go up, it isn't because payroll is going up, it is because the owner thinks he can make more money by increasing ticket prices.

The fans should care because the Angels can find better ways to spend $86 million.  Spencer, and some others out there, choose to view this as a binary decision -- either the Angels spend $86 million on Wells, or they create a big bonfire in the parking lot and set the money on fire.  Clearly, the Angels are better with Wells than with a parking lot filled with the ashes of 860,000 one hundred dollar bills, so this is a good move.

But that's not the case.  The management of any sports team is about resource management.  Do you want to devote $4 million more to amateur signings in a given year, which could pay off big down the road?  Or do you want to devote that money to payroll in the current year, which could lead to more wins, and thus more fan enthusiasm, and higher attendance, and more revenues that will end up possibly more than covering the $4 million more you spent in the current year's payroll?

When people talk about "Moneyball" being a business book, that's what they are talking about...if you've got finite resources to devote to your organization, how do you best allocate them?  Spending $86 million on Vernon Wells means the Angels have that much less to spend on extended Jered Weaver, or pursuing C.J. Wilson this offseason, or building a fancy new scoreboard for their stadium, or going above-slot to sign a draft pick.  That's $86 million they are spending on a guy who, most likely, will be a good, not great, player, that they can't spend elsewhere.

And that's why, as a Rangers fan, I'm happy Anaheim made this move.  Yes, it may, if Wells works out, mean they win an extra game or two, in a season where they look like the third best team in the A.L. West, a team that should finish around .500.

But it also means that they have that much less of an ability, going forward, to spend money in a way that could provide more benefit for the team.  And that's a good thing for the Rangers.

And finally, this notion that Spencer pushes, that this " wouldn't have been an issue back in the day when it was the game that mattered, not economics"...when was that, exactly?  Steve Carlton got traded to the Phillies from the Cardinals because of economics.  Connie Mack broke up the Philadelphia A's on multiple occasions because of economics.  The Black Sox scandal in 1919 was about economics.  The Federal League in 1914 was about economics.

Baseball has always been about economics.  Fans and the media just don't try to stick their heads in the sand about that issue anymore.

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Keep 'em comin', I love it.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 24, 2011 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

Still think he could pass as Sonny Bono

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

The tree he ran into

Makes me think different.

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

We've always had this

back in the Hart days there were folks saying things like the contracts for the late, unlamented 2002 Rangers didn’t matter.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 1:31 PM CST reply actions  

Arte signed off on it after careful consideration

It’s a great deal, stop mucking up the water.

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by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

Great piece, Adam. It’s fascinating how the mainstream local media coverage and Internet blogger coverage of the deal are so far apart. And Arte Moreno looks more like Ringo Starr every day.

by Jeff Polman on Jan 24, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

This should be good.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 24, 2011 1:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

tl:dr

but I guess it points out that the Wells contract is nuts, right? With salient points and footnotes?

/Tolstoy

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by WhipSmart on Jan 24, 2011 1:39 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Great article AJM

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by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

Is it just me, or does Moreno look a lot like Alf in that picture?

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by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

x

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by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

after seeing the guy above

mention he looks like ringo, i kind of see a combo of ringo and old man bob dylan

by studcrackers on Jan 24, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

If they were even considering this...

Why would they not have just bid 6 years $100 million on Adrian Beltre and been done with it?? They would have got to keep Rivera/Napoli (coulda traded them away for solid prospects if they really wanted them gone) and then they would have had a similar if not better player in Beltre than Wells that fits a need for them. Makes no sense to me.

my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Jan 24, 2011 1:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

True...

I’m just saying it doesn’t make any sense to pass on Beltre at 16 mil a year for 6 years and then trade an asset (Napoli) to get Wells at 21+ mil a year for 4 years, even if they are the excact same player.

my better is better than your better.

by rangerjake on Jan 24, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I agree with you.

I was just pointing out that, if Beltre is similar to Wells, we made a big mistake, too.

by philkid3 on Jan 24, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

There is no Henry Harya.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 1:42 PM CST reply actions  

There is

And he lives in South Africa now.

by Adam J. Morris on Jan 24, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Google is kind of scary

I know a lot about Henry Harya

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I know him from Friendster!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

did you expand your client base?

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by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent work.

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by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 1:43 PM CST reply actions  

x
The big talking point is Wells’ huge contract

this is the main point of the article and he ask us to ignore it… this is ignorant.

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

x
The big talking point is Wells’ huge contract

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

x
I am Neftali Feliz…im an idiot.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

my head just 'asploded

with all of these block quotes

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

:)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

i hear ya.

when i get the sunday afternoon drunk text from you, I assume your Monday’s are going to be a little rough

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

haha.. did i send ya one?

hopefully it was interesting.. or hey lets go get lap dances between games o rsomething ridiculous

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah you sent me a couple,

my favorite being, “Erin wants you to get a facebook because she is so 2014.”

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

i thought you were done with that bia?

i haven’t drunkenly (or soberly for that matter) proposed to anyone in a few months now. /impressive

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

shit happens.

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude cut bait now.

/Says the man who didn’t with the World Series ditcher for two months

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Katie?

Tron says Katie got some big-ass titties…

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by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

dammit I love that sketch, I laugh everytime I think about it.

true story

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by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

What sketch?

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Golden.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Arrowed

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by Reno Wilson on Jan 24, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Although I don't know being a Ranger fan

you can be completely excited about the deal. Wells did establish himself a “Ranger killer” last year. And now we get to face him as a division rival.

by R Derff on Jan 24, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

What's more likely?

That Wells’s 1700 OPS in a whopping 42 PAs last year is how he magically hits against the Rangers, or that that’s a small sample size and the more often he hits against the Rangers the more often his OPS will be closer to the .800 it has been for his career (if that)?

by philkid3 on Jan 24, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

There is some sarcasm in that statement

Just reminiscing last years ass wooping he handed us.

by R Derff on Jan 24, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

He helped me on my fantasy team in 2010,

but $20 million per year is outrageous considering the three previous years.

by Philar on Jan 24, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: Vlad as a HOFer?

if Vlad does retire today, does he go into the HOF in 5 years? does he need to pad his stats some more? he’s at least 2 to 3 years away from 500 homers, and he’s at least 3 years away from 3000 hits assuming he’s healthy the next 3 years.

but the rate stats are awesome .320 BA, .946 OPS, 143 OPS+ over 15 seasons. though he hasn’t led any league in a triple crown category, surprisingly enough.

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

it wasn't that long of a post

to ignore the first word in it…. or is the word “if” not in your vocabulary?

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Saying "if ___ does happen" implies that there is a chance ___ happens.

It’s different than saying “if ____ happened today …”

I thought the same thing when I read it. Poor choice of words to say “does.”

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by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

well.... there is a chance

that he retires the same way that Jermaine Dye did.

as in, no one offers him a contract.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard an uncomfirmed rumor

about him going to Baltimore.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm

So you chose to answer him in a reasonable way but not me.

You’re a cunt

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

well... I realized that

if one person misunderstood me, then they’re a fuckhead.

if two people, then I may have been unclear.

Now, it seems that I am correct twice.

and all i have to say is, you are what you eat, dickhead.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I am what I eat?

Aren’t you supposed to imply that I eat shit or something afterward? Or weren’t you supposed to say I was a cocksucker?

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it's reasonable for you to assume that if one person misunderstands, then that person is a fuckhead.

You might still have been unclear no matter how few people read it.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I just realized that he said that

“If one person misunderstands, then that person is a fuckhead.”

God damn that’s an amazing line. Can you imagine calling somebody a fuckhead every time they didn’t understand something you said? I want to meet iblum. He must be a god where he lives.

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

What are you trying to say here, fuckhead?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
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by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

you're all a bunch of fuckheads;

you fucking morons

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

*morans

effn dumas

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by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

He was why I hated those Mavs so much

He was at times the best player on the court and you just knew that a team relying on Dumas and George McCloud was never going to do anything

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder how many people saw "dumas"

and read it with the French pronunciation.

They are more literate than I, for sure

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

It made me think of the commercial.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

DING DING DING

Hey Mr. Dumbass…..
It’s Dumas

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by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

for some reason

Dumbass/Dumas makes me think of the Shawshank Redemption.

what an awesome movie.

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Same.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Dumas

I think of the town in the panhandle. I had a boss who hailed from that town. Nuff said.

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by Parman on Jan 24, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Always throws non-Texans off.

They always call it Dumass

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

My dad went to school there for a while

Before graduating from Olton

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by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not very sophisticated.

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by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

.....but you're handsome.

That’s what we care about.

- LSB has ADD -

by b.pate on Jan 24, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

i always forget

/not an elephant

/but still fat

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait, I also misunderstood.

That means neither of us are fuckheads.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm...checking the manual

It seems I may have been unclear.

But as it turns out I was right 5 times

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha

I forgot that was the original question.

If this thread wasn’t useless enough, I need only to look at the stupid question starting it.

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Vlad would be in the HOF,

to be certain, if he retired currently.

No question about it.

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait, I'm confused.

Does that make me a fuckhead?

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

We will decide that when the fuckhead from Chitown gets done consulting his manual

Until then, just assume a yes.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Oftentimes they are the same thing.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

/FP

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Dunno, ask ab03

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

why did you take my question to imply that your statement was definite and not conditional as opposed to just assuming my question was independent?

And how are you right even once?

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

because

you failed to qualify your statement. you simply asked, “is he retiring?” as if that had anything to do with my statement.

that and the fact that calling me a cunt certainly helps prove how much of a fuckhead you are. just like the rest of us.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

How is that not a legitimate question given the wording of your post?

But even more than that, why get angry about him asking it?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

didn't want to derail the conversation

which, apparantly, it did anyway, damnit.

but since people think he is anyway, then there really wasn’t a thread to derail.

and it always bothers me when I bring up a hypothetical and then someone asks me if its happening like I have some special knowledge or something.

Like, if I said something like, “If there was life on another planet, would they play baseball?” and the first response was, “Is there life on another planet?”

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

That's not what you said, though.

What you said was more like “So the life on Mars, do you think they play baseball?”

Then the most common reaction would probably be “wait, there’s life on Mars?”

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Scoop, will you take this?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you serious?

He thinks Martians exist and dinosaurs didn’t?

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Dinosaurs only existed on Mars.

10% of the mass of Earth, so such large frames worked on Mars, whereas on Earth they’d have the same issues as Yao.

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh? Is Vlad retired?

No, I don’t think Martians exist. Now outside of Mars….

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

not sure, just messing with ol' boy.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Depending on your definition

;)

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I can see that

I looked over my grammar for the third time and it does sort of imply he’s retiring. probably better wording might have been, “If Vlad retires today…..”

so, ab03, I apologize for calling you a fuckhead, though not for calling you a dickhead.

dickhead…. :)

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

ok
and it always bothers me when I bring up a hypothetical and then someone asks me if its happening like I have some special knowledge or something.

Really? Happens to you a lot, does it? You keep on trying to find philosophical gems and people keep questioning the validity of your premise? Really?

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

something wrong with the validity of the premise

that Vlad is a HOFer right now?

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

See,

that’s why the grammar was at fault. because it muddled the premise.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

No

whether Vlad is a HOFer is not a premise. That’s the question.

Really, for someone who struggles with english, you should give the readers the benefit of the doubt. Next time someone “questions” something you’ve written, maybe you should figure out how you’re wrong.

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

now, see, that's just insulting

its not like I’m portugese and can’t speak the language, I’m just a technical person who sometimes makes grammar mistakes.

Just like the rest of you non-lawyer types…..

so give me a fucking break and stop acting like a dickhead…..

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

They may be overly technical here,

but perhaps if you used proper capitalization and grammar in other places?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

I have enough trouble trying to get the capitalization right on my code…..

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe you could act less like a....

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Gah
FOX 4’s Heather Hays has a Whatever Happened Too update on the story.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Some of the arguments here are awesome.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't ask "Is he retiring"

without “qualifying it” (it’s not a qualification) with “This is only tangentially related to your point but…”

I don’t think that’s true

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

see above

and no, I don’t hate you by responding to Aquaman instead of you.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

/red3biggs

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't sass my boy

I can’t help it if you suck at English

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Who pays for the "Official Affiliate" site and Mr. Spencer's work

because it would serve as a practical example for Mr. Spencer if, because of Wells’ contract, the Angels saw fit to cut the resources they dedicate to the website (if the team is indeed the one who pays him), and hire some kid straight out of J-school (or God forbid…a fan blogger straight out of “his mother’s basement” Copyright – Murray Chass)

by hca4 on Jan 24, 2011 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

this is the longest sentence ever to be written

since Dickens’ “A Tale of Two Cities”

TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not that surprised they traded for Wells

I’m surprised they didn’t try to get a good deal. Toronto really wanted to get rid of Wells and the Angels had all the leverage. Why not try to get the best deal? I believe they could have driven a harder bargain and I’m stunned that they didn’t. Oh well, sucks to be an Angels fan.

Thank you Cliff Lee!

by DerekSTheRed on Jan 24, 2011 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

should have asked for

someone like Dana Eveland or Brad Mills or Marc Rzepczynski along with Wells. or maybe JP Arencibia. aren’t they way down on him?

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Or asked for the Blue Jays to pick up more of Wells' contract.

Or sent just Rivera for Wells. Or just Napoli. Or just agreed to take over the payments on Wells like some people do with cars. Really, anything would have been better.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

kinda like the White Sox

did with Rios

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

And both shitty deals originated from the same FO

Strange huh?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

um

wasn’t it Richardi who signed Wells and Rios?

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes?

Well, Riccardi. But yet.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh.

But yes.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

x
Jon Heyman of SI.com reports that the Rangers have “re-opened talks” with free agent Vladimir Guerrero.

by octoberty on Jan 24, 2011 1:56 PM CST reply actions  

and not surprised at all

I thought he’d be back anyways….lets hope Old school brotha uses him in the right way.

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

You assume that means he's limited to bench bat

but I bet it would be hard for him to accept that role

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

.
But Guerrero has struggled to find suitors and Ryan said Saturday at the Rangers’ FanFest event that the club would be open to a reunion as long as the money isn’t outrageous and it’s a one-year deal. “You’d love to have that bat,” said Ryan, “another right-handed bat on the bench, or him DHing when Michael Young is playing a position.”

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It's down to Os, Angles, or Rangers

You have a good chance of being correct.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't the Angels

still have Matsui? isn’t one guy who can’t play the field at all (two if you include Abreu) enough for them?

and why isn’t Seattle interested. surely they need someone who can hit up there in Washington.

wait! breaking news…. the Mariners just signed Alice Cullen to be their number 2 starter and Cleanup hitter.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

well

that explains a lot.

and I’m sure that Matsui is about as athletic as a Molina Brother on Thanksgiving evening. But that’s neither here nor there.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Troy Glaus would be cheaper, willing to accept a lesser role and a better fit on the roster

But so long as it’s a limited role okay, I guess.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 24, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Glaus

instantly becomes the Angels best third base option

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Except the whole glass shoulder thing.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Glaus is done.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 24, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Lyle Spencer is being a homer.

He does that largely because that’s what he’s paid to do, and you can’t really fault a person for that.

I meant right?

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by Reno Wilson on Jan 24, 2011 2:02 PM CST reply actions  

me neither

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by Reno Wilson on Jan 24, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

This article is right down EG's alley

TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

You, sir, get a rec from me.

TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.
The fact that Vernon Wells is owed $86 million over the next four years — way more than he would get on the open market right now, or that any reasonable person would presumably agree to pay him — is relevant to analyzing the Angels adding him is something that I didn’t need to expound upon, I thought, because of the Inherently Obvious Postulate.

by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2011 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

wow...that was awesome

I’ve always said you’re one of the best when talking about baseball. thx.

"what I have learned in 11 years in the sports business is that the dumbest guys in the room are always the media guys." - mark cuban

by Longhorn on Jan 24, 2011 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

Adam you've made it bigtime...

Angels Newspaper

Updated: Adam J. Morris just made many of these points at Lone Star Ball, well.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

And actually that article is pretty good

Both articles together should make Reagins cry and Moreno fire him

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

No..

Don’t fire Reagins….Continue to make stupid, shitty moves.

Its like as a Tech fan you’re sad when Francionne got canned.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

+Forever!!!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a great article

But the very 1st comment:

I think it’s a good trade. Not a GREAT trade, but it does make the Angels better.

LMAO, RIF!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Angels Salary Comittments for 2011-2012

Yeah I agree the contract could look like an albatross in a couple of years, but the Halos can withstand it. They have nearly 130 million in salary commitments for 2011. Next year it drops to 74 million, w/ the loss of GMJ jr, Abreu, Kazmir, and Rodney’s contracts. They will still have room to negotiate a deal with Morales, and Weaver, while bringing up Super prospect, Mike Trout. I’m not a fan of the Wells contract, but based on a payroll of 120-140 million, I think the Halos will be just FINE!

by Michael Toland on Jan 24, 2011 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe they will be, that's not the point.

They’d be even better off without Wells. That’s the point.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

it kinda kills all of those Albert Pujols signing talks.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I think Angels fans just like being able to say "X will come off the books."

Now they have GMJ, in a few years, they’ll get to say it about Wells.

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

If you could have gotten TOR

to pay 70 of the 86 mil, do you make the deal?

by elvis1isking on Jan 24, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

So I'm paying $16M for Wells for the next 4 years?

Probably. Though he really isn’t a great fit in Texas.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I meant from the Angels POV

Giving up Rivera and Napoli for Wells and only paying Wells $16mil isn’t all that bad a trade, IMO.

I just can’t get over why the Angels FO took on all that money. Even if they wanted to rid themselves of Rivera and Napoli and they wanted to get Wells, they could have gotten TOR to pay some of the salary (though I don’t know about $70mil).

The Angels just failed so miserably when negotiating this trade. It’s really unbelievable.

by elvis1isking on Jan 24, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Wells at 4/16

is a bargain. He’s not a star, but he’s not complete garbage

To Infinity. And BEYOND!!!

by YunelTheLazyLatino on Jan 24, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd give him 4/16, but I don't think it's a bargain.

With his injury history and already being relegated so far down the defensive spectrum, there is a very high risk he wouldn’t even end up worth that.

by philkid3 on Jan 24, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

well yea but what about extending those young guys plus adding other FA's

they can’t do both of those now……can they?

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

They will also have to replace Abreu, Kazmir and Rodney.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent point

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

As I said before Super prospect Mike Trout will be up either late 2011 or early 2012. There is no desire to bring back Rodney or Kazmir, both will likely be replaced with cheaper options.

by Michael Toland on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Which name do you post under on HH?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

What does that have to do with the fact

That you are limiting your resources in adding other players since you vastly overpay Wells?

by KenAg on Jan 24, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

that's fine

but the point is they will need to be replaced. Trout, as good as he is, can only play one position. And you basically HAVE to replace them with cheaper options, and that will be hard to do in FA, and there just isn’t a lot to choose from when making trades for LAAA.

This trade makes the job of the Angels FO a hell of a lot harder than it needed to be for the next several years.

by elvis1isking on Jan 24, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

What evidence do we have the the Angels will fill the late inning relief roles or

Number 4 starting pitcher role with cheaper options?

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

"cheaper options"

Given this recent move I don’t think Angels have a damn clue what the word “cheaper” means. Rivera’s cheaper and the same player as Wells.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Odd, did you even read the post you are replying to?

GMJ, Abreu, Kazmir, and Rodney’s contracts are going off the books whether they acquire Wells or not. The question is whether Wells’ signing stands on its own merits with respect to what else the Angels could have had added instead, and the cost of acquiring him.

by KenAg on Jan 24, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Err...

Wells’ contact (The Contract), obviously not “signing”

by KenAg on Jan 24, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Sock puppet?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Look pal, you just don't understand it

I think it’s a good trade. Not a GREAT trade, but it does make the Angels better.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

with the trade they are certainly a bit better
without the trade, they had the potential to be alot better

To Infinity. And BEYOND!!!

by YunelTheLazyLatino on Jan 24, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

That was totally tongue in cheek

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 25, 2011 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

It's mid January ...and they struck out on Beltre, Soriano and Crawford plus Napoli & Rivera ($ 11 million)

didn’t have a place on the Angels in 2011.

The Angels have this badass rotation and the Rangers have been fucking around in the off-season, not improving their team at all but telling the world they’re still “comfortable.”

85-90 wins puts your team in serious contention for the AL West and VWells helps the Angels get there in 2011.

It is a very expensive gamble by Arte Moreno but it’s not like The Contract is going to blind side him or come as a surprise (“Reagins, you didn’t tell me how much this is gonna cost!!!”.

The Napoli & Rivera contracts ($ 11 million) are gone and Kazmir/GMJ ($ 24 million) are gone after 2011. Hunter’s deal expires after 2012…they have a shit-load of money ($ 53 million not counting what happens with Weaver) coming off the books so the notion that this deal is going to paralyze the Angels is naive.

The BJs definitely benefit from the financial end and the Angels get killed but without question, the Angels got the best player in the deal. Is it a good trade for the Angels? Can’t say but I understand why they made it and I have great respect for their front office.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I understand the pressure on Reagins to do something

in the face of his failures.

But to say that Rivera and Napoli didn’t have roles on the Angels next year is pretty ridiculous. If nothing else, Rivera replaces Matsui as the DH and Abreu moves from right to left with Hunter playing right. Is Morales fully healthy? Even so, only a moron starts Mathis over Napoli at Catcher, no matter how good Mathis’ defense is.

as far as the money goes, Arte has enough that it shouldn’t hamper him.

as far as who is the best player in the deal, I’m not so sure that it isn’t Mike Napoli, long term. Napoli is 29 this year, can still catch in the big leagues, is a 12 WAR over his 5 years so far, vs Wells, at 33, has accumulated 25.2 WAR over 12 years.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

See below on the CBS website per Scott Miller why Rivera & Napoli weren't going to

play for the Angels in 2011.

WAR is a deeply flawed stat and measuring Wells’ WAR stats from the last 5 years is a misrepresentation because of how much Wells was hurt or was playing hurt.

If Wells is healthy, it’s a slam-dunk they got the best player in the deal.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

And I just heard a report

Kevin Millwood says he’s in the best shape of his life heading into spring training.

oh, and Justin Thompson just started throwing on flat ground this week.

get it?

Mike Napoli is Victor Martinez starter kit. if the Angels sat him next year, they would be fools. regardless of what Scott Miller says.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I just read that article. I expected it to be your standard puff piece saying how wonderful it was to pick up Wells and how crappy Rivera and Napoli were.

But it wasn’t. Miller ripped the Angels management, and rightly so.

And he NEVER. NEVER said that Rivera and Napoli wouldn’t have roles for the Angels in 2011. what he said is that Scoscia wanted Rivera and Napoli off the team because they feuded with him. mind you, as much as I admire Scoscia for being a great manager, and restoring the Angels, and getting them to play over their heads for years and years, Scoscia’s style didn’t really mesh with either Rivera or Napoli. Actually, Rivera might be simply uncoachable. For a guy who can obviously hit the crap out of the ball, he’s gonna bounce around a lot (with a Milton Bradley like future in the making). I’d love to see him on the White Sox just to see who would win the Rivera Guillen smack-down.

Napoli, OTOH, is most definitely the antithises of Mike Scoscia. He’s not fast, he’s not a contact hitter, and he’s not great defensively. But Scoscia couldn’t help but keep playing him. Because Napoli does things that win games. like get on base. and hit for power. You know, the things that Jeff Mathis doesn’t do.
Catchers with a career slugging average of .485 should not be riding pine. Combine that with an OBP of .346 and…. well…… no one is so stupid as to leave this guy on the bench for too long.

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by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Miller explained why the Angels felt the way they did about RIvera & Napoli.

I heard multiple writers on XM who cover the Angels say over the weekend that Rivera & Napoli didn’t have a place on the 2011 team.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

again

place is not the same as role.

I’m sure that Scoscia is relieved and has probably said so to several Angels writers “off-the-record”. But that doesn’t mean that Rivera and Napoli can’t play for him. Hell, no Manager can simply bench a player who he doesn’t like. Especially when that guy hits 26 homers in 450 AB’s. And can catch. In fact, I can see Reagins being given an ultimatum to trade Napoli and Rivera by Scoscia.

In fact, the problem I have with this trade isn’t the money, or the fact that they got Wells for Napoli and Rivera. Its what they didn’t get.
JP Arencibia would have been nice. or Brad Emaus. maybe Adeiny Hechavarria….. Darin Mastroianni, Anthony Gose (well… probably not him) Kenny Wilson maybe.

That throw in guy (as long as he’s not a rapist) makes the difference between a simple “your problem for my problem” deal (which it seems this is what this was) and a real barn burner.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Rivera & Napoli could have played for the Angels but the powers that be

in LAAA (track record shows they had one of the best front offices/field management in MLB for the last 10 years) didn’t want to pay them $ 11 million combined and watch the team finish under .500.

The Angel FO saw the Rangers fucking around, high-fiving each other and telling the world how comfortable they were and decided not to stand pat.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

so,

now they’re gonna spend $80 million to finish under .500

Must be because their track record.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

How does Wells help the Angels improve on their 2010?

Taking Rivera and Napoli out of the lineup is a big blow to what they did in 2010. Wells may offset that loss but that still doesn’t improve them.

Now…adding Morales back and a full year of haren may improve them but by getting Wells they merely stopped the bleeding of benching two players who combined for 40+ HRs and 120 RBI last year (if in fact the Angels would have done that which I highly doubt but whatever).

As for the financial side of things the Angels will regret this for awhile. According to Cots the Angels will have roughly a 150 million dollar payroll in 2011 (depending on how their arb cases go). That likely takes them out of the midseason trade market of anybody making decent to big money. Either that or they will have to throw in extra prospects to make a deal happen. Either way its bad for them.

In 2012 they currently have 80 million committed with Weaver being a 12-15 arb guy, Piniero a FA, Kendrick and Aybar each being ~6 mil each arb guys, if they keep Abreu theres another 8 million, Rodneys a FA, and Morales will be a arb guy. Thats either a lot of salary or a lot of holes to fill with a already inflated payroll.

But looking at 2013 and beyond the Angels currently have almost 50 million (assuming they exercise Haren and Santanas options) committed to three players for 2013. Not a recipe for long term success financially

by bigsteve on Jan 25, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

And the Rangers have $ 32 million plus whatever they're paying Josh (if they kept him) on the books for 2013 as well.

I’ve heard several people on XM 175 say that Napoli & Rivera had no place on the team in 2011.

Scott Miller from CBS website says the same thing this morning and goes into further detail as to why.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/14593653/needing-youth-quickness-angels-instead-opt-for-wells#Angels

It’s a hellacious gamble by Moreno but he did get the best player in the deal.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

btw, I listen to 175 too

and Dibble and Menelo and Kennedy and that ex Baltimore GM who’s name escapes me are much better than given credit for.

but, saying that Napoli had no place on the Angels was PURE spin. Napoli in Toronto is gonna hit 30 homers, and anyone who was pissing about losing Wells is gonna shut up real quick.

And Wells is not going to like having to face King Felix, Brett Anderson, Trevor Cahil, CJ Wilson, and Colby Lewis a bunch this year.

on another note. if Moreland falters this year, what do you think our chances of making a trade for the Prince is?

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Of course it is spin

When have you ever heard a team make this type of deal and then come out and say “we got hosed”. The Angels are going to pump Wells to high heaven in order to try and soothe over the casual fan who probably only knows of the Vernon Wells name not how hes played the last three years. They are going to point out his bounceback year last year and all the LA equivalent of DMN readers will rejoice. If that means putting down two players who no longer are part of the team so be it.

Napoli and Rivera may well have been guys the Angels had soured upon. But if this trade didn’t go down I find it highly unlikely given their production, lazy or not, and their salaries that they would have been benched simply because the manager doesn’t like them.

The Wells acquisition is a net neutral for the Angels at best. It would take a similar season to 2010 for Wells to come close to replacing what Napoli and Rivera gave the club in 2010. But the full effect of the Wells deal won’t be felt until next winter at the earliest when they start looking at their checkbooks and realize they can’t go get that impact player because of that extra 10 million or so they are paying Wells instead of Rivera and Napoli.

by bigsteve on Jan 25, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

that's exactly what I just said above.

I think we’re in violent agreement on this. I’ll go farther and say that Napoli’s gonna have a big year in Toronto and that’s gonna make Reagins look even worse.

and Rivera. well… I’m not a fan, but his contact rates in this day and age are pretty awesome.

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by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Chances of trading for Prince?

Not good.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 25, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

You write pretty good for a Comment Herder.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

well

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm from the streets, son.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

it doesn't mean you can't use proper grammar

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

you have to be a computer programmer if you want to use crappy grammar.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

proper grammar = diminshed street cred

look it up

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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

While y'all are busy correcting my grammar...

why don’t you tell me the rules for proper usage of colons and semicolons….

Thanks, gang.

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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I passed out for a moment with your appalling use of the word “y’all.”

Heavens!

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay, Chicago Boy....

YOU GUYS!!!

You guys wanna grinder?

You eat at Philly’s Best on Belmont Avenue by the Vic Theater?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

I pass by that place all the time. It doesn’t look great

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Their pizza is pretty good....their grinders are good.

This was 10 years ago…so, yeah….

Also….Cafe Luigi on Clark (between Deming and Wrightwood) has a great NY Style pie…

I love living vicariously through people…I miss Chicago :(

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no clue

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

the semicolon (;) is one of the most

misused punctuation marks ever.

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a friend that uses one after every sentence...EVERY! LAST! ONE!

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

you have a friend!

sry… low hanging fruit

!

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

No chatspeak please.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

1) Hyphen
2) Semicolon
3) Colon
4) Parenthesis
5) Comma

by jam0152 on Jan 24, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I misuse 1-4 and mis/overuse 5.

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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Needs more commas.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

you eat at Fuzzy's today?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

A guy, on a professional forum, that I post on

Insists on using a comma, about every three, to five words. I want to totally, kill him.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Semi-colon is one.

Comma- because people just put them wherever they want
Then colon, hyphen, parenthesis

by mizzou918 on Jan 24, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

semicolons and commas

are the two that people seem to have the most problems with on a consistent basis

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

semi colons

are to be used when the part of the sentence before the semi colon can stand on its own and the part after is just extra information. colons generally precede a list of some sort. Or so said the paper editors at seminary last year

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
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by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

to be clear,

it doesn’t matter if the phrase (not sentence) before or after the semicolon can “stand on its own.” It just matters that one of them can

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

and to be more precise,

instead of phrase, let’s say clause

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Go ahead and give us an example.

Wrong and right.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Say you want to print out the numbers 0-9

Wrong:
for (int x =0; x < 10; x++);
system.out.println(x);

Right:
for (int x = 0; x < 10; x++)
system.out.println(x);

Wait, this is grammar? Nevermind.

by AsDevilsRun on Jan 24, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Bah!
(1..9).each {|x| puts x}
for i in range(1,10): print i

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

No wonder, if you only know Java and C++.

Basically the least fun of any modern languages.

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Alas

I can make a career out of Java.

and I’ll bet I make as much as some of these fancy marriage smashers too.. :)

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

A decent portion of my job is currently Java.

But one day I will be the boss…

…and the code I tell people to write for me will be in Java or C# or something like that cause there are tons of people at least competent in those languages, but for the projects I coded myself I’d at least have more freedom.

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

When

when you are the boss you will make everyone code in Java just like you do because you won’t want to have to learn new languages to keep up with your employees.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh, learning new languages is easy.

But I don’t really want to be paying for everyone I hire to learn a new language (although at least it would make sure any bad habits in that language they picked up were the same as mine).

I’d make them program in Scala if anyone knew it…

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

and you are right about new languages being easy.

Of course, it doesn’t really matter. you put an add out for Scala programmers and you’ll get them. ASL programmers, Cobol, C#, JSP, LISP, Ada, Pascal, VB, J++, SNOBOL, Perl, SQL, Ruby on rails, Ruby not on Rails, Python, Anaconda (just made that one up), or whatever.

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

system

must be capitalized. (assuming you are doing this in Java)

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

now you're just making things difficult....

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

grammar, by definition, is difficult as fuck

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure why they say that

fucking ain’t hard. finding someone to do it with is not so easy, but the actual mechanics, not so much…..

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by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

and that's why

I let other people edit my papers

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Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
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by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

.

See I’m from the street, so I know what’s up
On these silly games that’s played by the women
I’m only happy when I’m goin up in em

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Jan 24, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

NWA fool

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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Comment Herder

Is that anything like a nerfherder?

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Comment Herder is what some cranky-ass called Adam once

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course not, don't be ridiculous

/Balki Bartokomous

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Jan 24, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm related to Larry Appleton...trueph

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by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

So, I've just now realized that the Angels took on his entire contract

I feel like MY would have made infinitely more sense for the Angels if they were willing to act clinically insane.

by Jobu. on Jan 24, 2011 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

they got $5M

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

well

we could have given them Young and $6 million for Napoli and Rivera.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

No, they did not.

They did not even get a bus token.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what I thought.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

that would be kinda funny if it came out he did try...Angel fans would go nuts

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by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Arte Moreno knows we’ll all be dead in a coupla years anyway.

by shroomer on Jan 24, 2011 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

SoCal slides into the ocean

And we will be beach front so we can all starting saying “Broooo” and stuff.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably need a hedge trimmer for that thing.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm getting my taint waxed

I may wanna cross that line, dude-brah.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

It sucks...

I did it so I could get my Cliff Lee Taint Tattoo. But now that he’s gone, the hedges are overgrown.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

man that hurts like hell

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

The waxing...

…or the implied penetration by a foreign object?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

SHAVE PARTY AT MY HOUSE!!!!!

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www.weonlywax.com/

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Arizona Bay!

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by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The George Strait song would be true now. There is Ocean Front Property in Arizona!

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy shit......George is a fucking prophet!!

I need to call him for the lotto numbers…..brb.

- LSB has ADD -

by b.pate on Jan 24, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I was sooooooo hoping

this was an article that had a Moreno quote predicting the world would end in 2012.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe the nationals gm

hoping to be able to cut bait early when Werth fizzles

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Dear George:

Freeze yourself deep underground and take a copy of the new Star Wars versions with you. Leave the original footage with someone above ground.

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

are you saying that he should have used 'apart'

as opposed to ‘a part’?

because ‘a part’ is correct here

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike E has corrected people who say "alot" a lot,

so he was making the analogy I guess to illustrate the irony that he screwed up “a part”.

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Tag thought AC was correcting your usage of 'a part', not Mike E's,

but AC was taking a jab at Mike E, but it looked like he was correcting you, so that’s why Tag said it was correct.

Dig.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Jan 24, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, i did not read Mike E's 'apart'

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

haha..

I didn’t even connect what you were saying at first and was going to get smart saying yeah that’s exactly what I just said..

But I see now. heh. Oops.

by Mike E on Jan 24, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

QUICK, get a prop plane up in here!!!!!!!

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Good god.

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by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude no need to be playa hatin' on Mike E

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike E bot out in full force today

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by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

better than the Josey Wales bot

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

yes THUMBS was on earlier, but glad he's not on right now

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Ran out of time on the library's free internet

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: Jeff Pearlman tracks down internet haters

Link

What the article glosses over is that Pearlman was justifying why he thinks it is ok for him suspect that Jeff Bagwell used steroids, even though he admits there is no proof other than 1) everybody else was doing it and 2) Bagwell got bigger.

I’m thinking Pearlman tracked down some other people and got some more interesting responses.

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 2:59 PM CST reply actions  

Somebody else did that, too.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Late.

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Jan 24, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Calcaterra or however you spell it

was talking about it earlier today. He linked to the 2 guys who Pearlman references in the article. Interesting stuff, and it doesn’t cast Pearlman in a very good light.

"I fully expect to lose tonight" -- LSJ

by Dirk Diggler on Jan 24, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Silly rabbits

Always dieing.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Keanu Reeves: Two More 'Matrix' Movies

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 3:37 PM CST reply actions  

holy shit what the fuck

oh wait now I get it….these are the only parts he can get.

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

If Hollywood is where good ideas go to die, there is something sort of ironic to see the L’Anaheim’s hometown nine consummate an expensive mistake of this magnitude in time for the same season that will see the theatrical release of a certain years-overdue film of now-dubious educational value.

Referring to Moneyball.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Whooooa

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

$$$$$$$$$$$$

Stupid Hollywood.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh
But if mistakes are a recurring theme, then perhaps it’s appropriate that Tony Reagins has managed to fall into his predecessor’s exact footsteps when it comes to making major-money mistakes with veteran outfielders. Reagins’ repeating Bill Stoneman’s massive mistake with Little Sarge may well be the self-capping gesture of a now worse-than-wasted winter for the Angels.

Christina Kahrl on the trade

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Ask the Angels.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Or the Tidy Bowl guy after he hits the lotto

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

no

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

oh, it's the same cast? i can give it a shot

as long as it"s as good as the Geico Caveman tv show

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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

that show was funny

for about 1/2 an episode

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis

by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Vote for Pedro?

ugh….

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

the Caveman show

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis

by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Caveman show was a terrible idea.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

California Raisins?

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis

by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Baby Bob

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis

by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Good call sir...

I know it isn’t a commercial, but I heard they’re coming put with an Angry Birds tv show. Unreal.

by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

i also heard this

I don’t see how the constant homicide of green pigs is funny though

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis

by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

None that I can think of.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Pedro was on Eastbound and Down this past season

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He played the straight guy on that show though

I don’t think he was supposed to be funny

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I want

Freaks and Geeks back on

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis

by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

None of those people can pass for high school

Are you fine with a completely different cast?

by ab03 on Jan 24, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

they did a good job of casting the first time, and I didn’t know any of those people when it first started. I trust him

"A fanatic is one who cannot change his mind and will not change the subject."
Winston Churchill

"I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me."
Dock Ellis

by sunlegend54 on Jan 24, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

The Matrix

Am I the only person who actually liked the second and third films?

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

no i liked them as well

just nowhere near as good as the 1st. thats what was disappointing

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

True

I don’t think they were as good either, but judging by most of the reviews I read at the time, a lot of people seemed to think they were the worst two films ever made, and that the Wachowski brothers should have been drawn, quartered, burned, and after they were dead, that a Terminator should be sent back in time to abort them before birth.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

it’s because of that Zion Dance scene

by shroomer on Jan 24, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

isn't one of those bros into some weird shit?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Who isn't?

/Rex Ryan

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I think one of them is a cross-dresser.

And I liked the Zion dance scene!

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yea I dont get that either......I own all 3 anyways.

but i liked the terminator comment, well done.

"Thumbs/Asses Needing to be Dazzled/The Plan/Ferns " - JW

by shock00 on Jan 24, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh

Yeah, I love Terminators. I think that’s also why I liked the Matrix films so much- both were set in a dystopian future which came about following a human-machine war. I’m a total sucker for pretty much any film or TV show that follows that concept.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I hated the ending to the third one.

So the machines say that if Neo will take down Agent Smith for them, they will stop their attack on the human settlement. Neo does his part, and the machines stop their attack. The humans start celebrating like they won the war, but they did not. At best, the humans and the machines have an uneasy truce that could be broken at any moment. Seriously, what do the machines have to lose if they break their word and resume their attack? I guess this will be covered in the new movies, but that is part of what pissed me off. The end of the third movie did not feel like an ending. The end of the war was just dangling there unresolved. So they left it wide open for more movies, which is a crappy trend in Hollywood lately. Can we not get a movie with a satisfying ending? Does every movie have to have some ambiguity so that they can make a sequel? Shit. Rant over. Continue on.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Good memory...

if you asked me how it ended I would have no idea. I’m not even sure I finished the last one.

by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember it because it pissed me off so much.

Otherwise, I surely would have forgotten it by now.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

The first one, despite a plot hole bigger than Keanu Reeve's ability to act wooden,

was (fairly) new and interesting and a well-executed take on a cool concept.

The second and third brought little to the table except new action sequences and a twist which was revealed in the lamest of all possible ways.

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

The second and third films...

were okay, not great, but not horrible.

The problem is that the first one was so great that I think it made those two seem much worse than they really are.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 25, 2011 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I went on a double date to the first Matrix movie

it was so bad that we left before it was over. I never watched any of the other ones after that. I know this is a minority opinion.

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

but....

he’s dead.

fuck, I hate when they make a movie and kill off the main character and then try and bring him back later.

OTOH a matrix Prequel wouldn’t be so bad. with Reeves as the original “One” who learns what the matrix is and goes around freeing people, eventually building Zion. that would be nice. (as long as there’s no Morpheus in it, since its supposed to be hundreds of years before the first Matrix)

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Bad idea.

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy.

by LSJ on Jan 25, 2011 3:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I dunno

I’d loved to see the ashes of 860,000 $100 bills though.

by jam0152 on Jan 24, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Word-for-word unintentional plagiarism?

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

What are the odds?

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

No I haven't,

and that sounds awesome…where’s tha Sabre Tooth Tiger?

by lost in space on Jan 24, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

it'll be cloned in four to five years they're saying.

i’m fucking nervous

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Free Pizza for Super Bowl Overtime
DALLAS – No Super Bowl has ever gone into overtime but if Super Bowl XLV does, Papa John’s will be doling out free pizza.

The national pizza chain on Monday announced that in the event of OT, it will give a free large pie to every customer enrolled in it’ loyalty program.

For more details and to register to receive the free three-topping pizza, please visit www.papajohns.com .

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

Come on. Admit it.

You work for the Papa John’s sales department, and you are trying to get people to join the loyalty program.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

papa johns pan pizza yummmmm

with that garlic butter fattening stuff…. god im so fat right now…

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I went a few years without eating Papa John's because the one near my apartment sucked ass.

Now that I have moved into my first house near a good Papa John’s, I should probably join their loyalty program due to the amount of Papa John’s that I eat. Damn I missed their garlic butter.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

But I do know there are a lot of broke, 20-something, pizza eatin’ fools here though.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew you were trying to hook us up. I was just funnin' ya.

These freebie bets can be amusing sometimes. My favorite was when Taco Bell offered a free taco if the Mir space station hit a big target they put out in the middle of the ocean. It missed. Think the Superbowl will go into OT?

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

It never has before in history, so not really.

It’s a really safe bet for Papa’s, in other words.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Just like the odds of Mir falling on a tiny target in the vast ocean. So it is just a great marketing ploy to get people to sign up for their loyalty program. Well it is working for at least one person, because I will be signing up for it. Not because I believe that the Superbowl will go into OT, but because I do eat enough Papa John’s to make a loyalty program worthwhile to me.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been signed up for years, but only order about 1 pie a year

It does get you online only specials though.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool.

I order about 1-2 per month depending on how lazy my wife and I are come dinner time.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

you never forget about me,

and i love you for it

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Just make sure I et an invite to the next Jaguars excursion

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

*get

WTF, anyone else having trouble with Chrome/LSB?

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

It's like I can post the headline

Just now, it took ~15 secs to tab down here…fuck.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I closed my password manager

It is going much better now.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

You got it

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by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool, Boo

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Grandma's canned venison (think beef stroganof) over no-egg noodles

Yummy.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Canned as in a glass container

It’s just an old fashioned term.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually used to enjoy "canning"

I had a huge (like 10-15 jars) pressure cooker and everything. It’s the only way I could make my own hot sauce that was balanced acid-wise and could contain Habeneros.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Papa John's pizza tastes like shit.

"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

And you know how shit tastes like because...

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew somebody would take this literal, congrats.

If shit tastes like tomato sauce sugar in it, then sur, i’ve tasted shit before.

"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

the real question is, would you eat shit if it were wrapped in bacon?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Turkey bacon?

"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

and fried

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It really depends

on the individual franchise. I’ve had good and bad Papa John’s. Of the big 3 (Pizza Hut, Papa John’s, Dominos) I have Papa Johns as number 2. I also understand why Pizza Hut is competing on price these days.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Pizza Hut's thin crust is the best.

"The world would truly be a better place if you didn’t exsist. You should just lean over the plate and take one for the team, run into oncoming traffic or something." -S l c Ranger HE MAD! The internet is serious business.

by TooLegitToQuit on Jan 24, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Bah

I think all their pizza is pretty weak. Normally if I’m down to Pizza hut it’s a p’zone or something for me. I think they have taken over the fake cheese mantle.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Of the major chains, Pizza Hut's standard pan crust is my favorite.

I’d like better quality rest of the ingredients, but the crust is the most important part and they get it right.

by philkid3 on Jan 24, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

my room mate works at pizza hut

it took about 2 weeks before i got sick of their pizza

by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I like lan/hand tossed

I like Dominoes, though. Unless I’m at a mall.

by octoberty on Jan 24, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet you like it hand tossed.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

It's tongue tossed dummy

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

TWSS

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Now we know why your wife cheats.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

She does like that

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Booshaklakah

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

And it only cost $20

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously man, allocate more to the budget.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Do tell.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh

stuffed crust is better

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes way, man.

If I am eating Pizza Hut I prefer stuffed crust

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep I have had good and bad.

Once at the same location. It was great under one manager, then crap when they got a new manager. And it was pretty much an overnight change. The one I live by now is pretty good. Much better than the Pizza Hut nearby.

That being said, Papa Murphy’s absolutely rules.

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I liked them when I was a kid

haven’t had it since though

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I never liked them

still have em here.. still don’t like them.

by Mike E on Jan 24, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

McKinney

75 and Virginia Parkway.

I’ve seen others, but I can’t remember.

on other restaurants, is there a Taco Loco south of Oklahoma? I went to the one in Durant and was thoroughly unimpressed.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

The last one I remember was in Eastland

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

It's gone

They tried one place that really sucked, but now there’s a Pizza Heaven. Really good pizza buffet that’s easy on the wallet.

by Perfect Zero on Jan 24, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I have been there

Not bad.

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Abilene got one within the last year.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

That's like buying a Nintendo

and thinking it’s the new in thing

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Buffet is good at lunch, price wise.

Dinner or weekend they pear your wallet.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

my girlfriend and i where looking for one in south arlington

and my iphone took use to a pizza Den……not the same thing apparently

by jonathan rigby on Jan 24, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

They've "reinvented" their brand opening up new concept stores....

one of which is 5 minutes from my house.

Hamburger or Sausage thin crust from PI, ftw.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Papa Murphs ain't bad.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

it's good and cheap

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

dominos

deep dish is the best for chain pizza…

mr jims is delicious for cheapo pizza

by I am Neftali Feliz on Jan 24, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I loved Dominos deep dish as a kid.

I can’t eat it anymore. Heck, I can barely stand to smell it anymore. Just so disgustingly greasy.

by Closure GT on Jan 24, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

It comes out faster than it goes in because of that too.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

And Pizza Hut dish might be worse

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Dominos new recipe

2 medium 2 topping for $5.99 a piece. I can handle that

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean for the price especially

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this the part of the thread where the wall next to me falls down and there's a Dominoes team standing there?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations, philkid.

Sounds like you just became a man.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes except it's in a dream.

And you are in Mineral Wells.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Well played Mauer

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks I try.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Enjoy the play.

don’t applaud yourself

TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry pops

Forgot to let the game come to me.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

haha

TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

What they don't tell you in the commercials

is that Dominos took $12 million from Uncle Sam to rework their pizzas with real cheese :)

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

No kidding, what a joke

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

it was a matter of National Security MC Cahill

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Mr Jims if fucking awesome

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

If we're going chain thin crust...give me Pizza Inn every day of the week and 4 times on Tuesday.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't remember

the last Pizza inn I saw. I remember when Pizza inn and Pizza Hut were probably the top 2 chains.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Schwann's

Frozen pizza that blows delivery pizza away.

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Schwann's is a home delivery service

frozen entrees, vegetables, deserts, meats, etc….

www.schwans.com

most of their stuff is good, but their pizzeria style pizza is kicking. great sauce, very good cheese, and a crust to die for…

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Orlandos in Lubbock FTMFW

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

gOsh

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I have.

Just a very low FPC, but my wFPC is pretty high.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Also I hate almost the entire pizza in 15 minutes, it's that freaking good.

It was a medium regular crust, primo pepperoni

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a good crust though, not super thick, but not too thin.

Prefect for a hand tossed crust.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

...
BNightengale: #mlb The Dbacks# plan to use pitcher Micah Owings at 1B as well as on the mound, GM Kevin Towers just announced.

I want to see how this works out and if more teams would be willing to try it.

by coolaid on Jan 24, 2011 3:51 PM CST reply actions  

Brew Crew

Did it with Brooks Kieschnieck in his last year with MIL. He’d DH in interleague games, play OF, and relieve.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

two years actually...

but yes, he did…he was pretty bad one year on the mound

by CW13 on Jan 24, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

03-04

03 he played sparingly in the field. 04 Strictly a pitcher and PH.

04 he was better statistically on the mound. I remember some of the stories he told when he got inducted in the College HOF….the guy was a hoot. He signed a ML deal with Houston and never got called up. He said the only offer he had was from Balt in 2006 and said he’d rather be at home with his family than move to Baltimore.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

he was a beast at UT...

sounds like he wasn’t very fond of the way the Cubbies treated him…

http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewArticle.do?articleId=292

by CW13 on Jan 24, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

But watching them play the field is fun...

ala Oswalt in the OF for the Phillies last year….

I wonder what was going through his mind….I’m 1 win away from being the franchise leader in W’s for the Stros. Now I’m playing LF in an extra inning game for the Phillies…

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That is why college baseball can be so interesting.

Now pitching… the second baseman!

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 24, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

The ping is distracting.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

man, i love me that ping every once in awhile.

TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

The other thing I can't stand...

Is the random 2 run bomb in the 5th. The entire dugout comes out and high fives the guy. Can you imagine if that happened in the majors? The next guy would would proabably be brushed back at the least.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Two-way players...

are fascinating to me. I want to see more of them especially good ones. I thing Owings is below average at both.

by coolaid on Jan 24, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

i did *hear* about that

TagDon't Tweet wants to remind you of the time TagDon’tTweet quoted TagDon’tTweet utilizing a metaphor in which TagDon’tTweet successfully likened Josey Wales to an abysmal football team, as TagDon’tTweet finds it quite confusing the amount of references Josey Wales makes to other sports when discussing what Josey Wales describes as The Great Game.

by TagDon'tTweet on Jan 24, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

You are on a roll today.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn English degree word rapers

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

They prefer the term Custodians of the Language.

heh

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

You use your tongue purdyer than a twenty dollar whore

"Torture you? That's a good idea. I like that." - Mr. Blonde

by Texas Jihad on Jan 24, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Heard this-she didn't have teeth.

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty decent numbers too

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Owings

Nice to see Arizona giving it a shot- Owings is a good hitter, and not just in the “he’s good for a pitcher” way.

"Scared? We're not scared...We do this every day. Scared is being in a prison yard."- Michael Young

by RCCook on Jan 24, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Smart

He always had a better bat than arm. Always wondered why no one picked him up to be a bench player.

by Marisa Ingemi on Jan 24, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

YAY!

the second coming of Brooks Kieschnieck……

I love it. I’d probably use Carlos Zambrano as a pinch hitter some more too….

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 24, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially if you wanted to see a murder occur on a professional baseball field.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Great post

I always love reading call outs of idiot sports writers.

by philclark on Jan 24, 2011 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

Obsession Club in full session today.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2011 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure if this is a joke or for real...
BizballMaury Maury Brown
Dr. Scholl’s has signed Rex & Michelle Ryan to appear in a series of commercials, “For The Love of Feet,” promoting Co’s podiatric products

by octoberty on Jan 24, 2011 6:05 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

stop using twittEr

/mike e

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

So if you're the Angels and it's mid January do you stand pat and not do anything?

They have a potential juggernaut as a rotation and they didn’t have places on the team for Napoli & Rivera (part-time players $ 11-12 million, really?).

I think they saw what the Giants did in 2010 and that 90 wins could win the AL West very easily. The Angels have a lot of money coming off the books in the next two years ($ 40 million between GMJ, Kazmir, Hunter) so the Wells contract shouldn’t cripple them from doing anything else to improve their team.

Is paying Wells $ 86 million over the next four years ridiculous? Of course it is. What’s worse, paying Wells $ 86 million over four years or Beltre / Young $ 96 million over the next three years?

Reagins, Moreno, Scioscia are getting killed on this but their track record of success shouldn’t be dismissed. When you win the AL West 5 times in 6 years and also set attendance records along the way…you’re going to get some latitude from me when it comes to knowing what you need to do to make your team better.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2011 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

Two AL West titles.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

No we've been over this.

You couldn’t identify anything that Reagins did to win those division titles. Those division titles were won with Stoneman’s players. You identified Abreu as contributing to the 2009 division title, but the Angels would have won the division easily without Abreu (as evidenced by Abreu’s 2.5 WAR and the Angels 10 game lead).

You lost that argument. Don’t bring it up again.

by cstorm15 on Jan 24, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it really worth your time

to try to get Josey to admit to losing an argument? Really? Couldn’t you better spend the time going to www.bigtits.com or somesuch and rub one out?

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

That website grosses me out

But yeah, everyone would be better off installing trollblock or somesuch, since they can’t seem to help themsevles, much to the devolution of this blog.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

There is such a website?

I just kind of randomly generated an url. I guess I should have assumed someone would have taken it.

"I wanted to go out there and punch Julio" - Ron Washington

by DJCahill on Jan 24, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

You didn't think "bigtits.com" would be a real website?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, they are just trying to feed the homeless

And they say MEN have fetishes???

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

feed the hungry

breast milk?

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha

Yeah, I click on everything, and that was a real link…lots of fat chicks with huge honkers. I go for the svelte/fit look myself, although that is getting harder and harder to find.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Reagins made several moves that helped both division winning teams.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Name them.

You couldn’t this morning, so I doubt you can now.

by cstorm15 on Jan 24, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't try to name what he did this morning. Reagins signed Hunter, traded Cabrera for Garland, signed Oliver &, Fuentes, let Colon

hit free agency and traded for Tex (who was a monster down the stretch and in post-season).

The 2008 Tony Reagins Angels won 100 games, 6 more games than the Bill Stoneman 2007 Angels.

Wanna jump over to 2009?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Thumbs, President of the Tony Reagins Fan Club.

A club conspicuously lacking in members these days as people realize he is a shill.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

The 2008 Angels won the AL West with a 21 game lead

The 2008 Tony Reagins Angels (Hunter, Garland, Oliver, Tex) contributed 8.8 WAR (Fuentes wasn’t on the 2008 team).

The 2008 Bill Stoneman Angels (everyone else) contributed 31 WAR.

The Angels won because of players Stoneman acquired. Everyone else was inconsequential.

by cstorm15 on Jan 24, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm missing something here

How does a team win 100 games while scoring the 10th most runs in their league. and they were only 5th in runs allowed too.

oh, here it is. they overperformed their runs scored/runs allowed by 12 games!!!!!!!!! In 2009 they overperformed by 5 games. Sure they probably win the west in 09 at least anyway, but I doubt 88 wins in 2008 wins the west.

So, was it Reagins who won it for the Angels, or Mike Scoscia…..

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Paying Wells is almost definitely worse.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is it worse to give 4/86 to Wells than 3/96 to Beltre & Young?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"If the Cliff Lee Contract was really keeping me from doing other things, I had no fucking business whatsoever trying to sign him in the first place."

by Josey Wales on Jan 24, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

First, that's not what we're paying Beltre and Young.

We’re paying Beltre $45 million over the next 3 and Young $39 million. (5/80 contract with $15 million deferred).

So that’s $84 million over the next 3 years for both.

Just last year, Beltre posted a higher WAR (7.1) than Wells did from 2007-2010 (7.0).

Young + Beltre will, without a doubt, outperform Wells in terms of WAR over the next three years. Hell, I would bet serious, serious money that Beltre does it all by himself.

This isn’t hard, Josey. Don’t make it hard.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 24, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Reagins, Moreno and Scocia are "going to get some latitude from" you

God, I can’t imagine how peaceful their sleep will be tonight. The’ll dream of dumb-ass trolls giving the thumbs up to dumb-deals.

And you realize “Young / Beltre” are actually two players, correct? Young is not a modifer to Beltre. Two entirely separate human beings.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

you are repeating yourself

Book: [to Mal] If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

by iblum on Jan 25, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't bite.

Don't listen to me. I'm a fucking moron.

by hornedfrogs45 on Jan 24, 2011 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

that feeds you

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

from

It goes deeper. People take out their frustrations with Josey on their real-life acquaintances, which propagates forward, and before you know it you’ve got more marriages in an easily-smashable state.
by Closure GT on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST

by RangersSD on Jan 24, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Ryan

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jan 25, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

's wife

Superman wears Josh Hamilton pajamas.

by crazy86er on Jan 25, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Will someone come over and put a shiv deep into my step mother-in-law's neck?

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 7:11 PM CST reply actions  

steaks on the grill...

mine has your name on it.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Is she bangable?

/miles

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

And enthusiastic?

/woowoo

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, and this is why I don't post personal information around here

You people (myself included) are sick sick sick.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

no, she left yesterday.

she’s close to going into full rebound mode on someone…I’ll keep you in the loop.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

she lives in West Palm...for now...

and we’re doing a few RR games this year.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

you and I, not me and her.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

that is not a good condOm choice

/mike e

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

she likes exotic creatures...give me something in Italian.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

You know she posts on here, right?

There are, in fact, girls named Josey.

Hobson, did you see that?
Yes.
She stole that tie! It's the perfect crime. Girls don't wear ties; although some do. It's not a perfect crime, but it's a good crime.
Yes. If she murdered the tie it would be the perfect crime.

by WyoRanger on Jan 24, 2011 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Good.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Jan 24, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

You know she posts on here, right?

There are, in fact, girls whiney cunts named Josey.

"I support you, Wash; I’ve always supported you," Young said
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW

by Rodney on Jan 24, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

x
gordonkeith Gordon Keith
Breaking news. OMG. http://twitpic.com/3t528r

by octoberty on Jan 24, 2011 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

Henry Harya

Is obviously a made up name.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

Fire Pat Knight Hire Billy Clyde

My Sports Stuff on Ebay

by matthewbschultz83 on Jan 24, 2011 10:48 PM CST reply actions  

He drinks Pepsi-Colas with Josh Garoon for sure.

The 40 trumps all!
"WHY IS LIAM POPPINS STICKING. IT'S AN ABSURDLY BAD NICKNAME"
-LiamP(oppins)

by thedirkatron on Jan 25, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep. He got him with his manpenis, that's for sure.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

by Aqua on Jan 25, 2011 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

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