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DETROIT, MI - OCTOBER 11:  The bat of Josh Hamilton #32 of the Texas Rangers flies through the air on its way to hitting a fan after he lost his grip on it during an at-bat in Game Three of the American League Championship Series against the Detroit Tigers at Comerica Park on October 11, 2011 in Detroit, Michigan.  (Photo by Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images)

When I was 13, continuing until I was probably 15 or so, my mother dated this guy who had some interesting views on life, and a variety of interesting and colorful sayings, many of which I could not post on this blog, or repeat in polite company.

One of them that stuck in my mind, he would say whenever my brothers or I said some task he had set us on was difficult:

"Well, Adam, if it was easy they'd let little girls do it!"

Which I thought about last night, seeing the various comments during and after the game.  From the reactions, you'd have thought the Rangers were down 2-1 in the series, rather than up 2-1.  Given the pitching matchups going into the series, this was the game that I thought the Rangers were least likely to win.  You're on the road.  You're facing a pitcher who has been great this season,* and who is the type of finesse righthander that can give the Rangers fits.**  You've got Colbyashi on the mound, and while he's settled down and hasn't pitched poorly of late, he's also someone you don't figure is going to completely shut down the other team, even pitching in Comerica Park.

*  Doug Fister is 27 years old and has a career 5.52 K/9 ratio.  He had a terrific season, but pitched in two of the best pitchers' parks in the A.L., allowed a .272 BABIP, and had a 5.1 HR/FB percentage.  He was 67th among the 94 qualifying pitchers in K rate this season, at 6.07 K/9, trailing such well known strikeout artists as Tim Stauffer and Mike Leake.  While I don't think it is unreasonable to think he'll be a decent #3/#4 starter going forward, this season screams "fluke" to me, and I wouldn't start quaking in my boots at the thought of Fister and Justin Verlander being the next Spahn and Sain.

**  Without going and actually doing the research, my gut feeling is that righthanders with quality changeups are Josh Hamilton kryptonite.

So, yeah, the Rangers lost.  They still are up 2-1 and have home field advantage.  They are still the better team.  Expecting them to sweep the Tigers was unrealistic.  So everyone chill out.

Jeff Wilson's game story talks about Doug Fister outdueling Colby Lewis.

Behind the paywall, Evan Grant writes that Colby Lewis lost his playoff magic yesterday.

Richard Durrett has his thoughts on yesterday's game.  T.R. Sullivan also has a game story up at the Rangers website.

Jeff Caplan writes that Koji Uehara realizes he may not have the trust of his manager, after a rough two months in Texas and then a terrible playoffs so far.

Joey Matches says that Face has sucked this offseason and needs to stop sucking.

Richard Durrett points out that Michael Young has disappeared.

At the DMN blog, Jon Machota asks if it is time to drop Young out of the cleanup spot.

Jean-Jacques Taylor writes that the Rangers are still looking for their first quality start in the ALCS.

Jeff Caplan writes that today is a big test for Matt Harrison.

The S-T's notes talk about Nelson Cruz's wrist and the lineup shuffling for Game 3.

Nolan Ryan talked about C.J. Wilson's pending free agency, but didn't really say much, which is about what you'd expect under the circumstances.

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IF we can't get two good starts from our rotation

How are we going to win this series let alone the WS? People (and the know who they are) have to step up. It’d help to not have our worst hitter in the 4 hole.

Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?

by Buttermaker on Oct 12, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Happy Harry Day!

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

3-27

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Stop.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

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"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

for

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

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"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Young needs to get moved

down in the order. Bump Beltre, Napoli, and Cruz up one spot and put Young at 7. And its disappointing that Uehara has sucked so badly since acquiring him. I’d cringe at the thought of him being in the game with any tie or lead.

by erikj07 on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

He won't be.

Last night was an audition and he blew it.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt he will...

because Wash hardly ever fools with the lineup but having a gaping hole at cleanup is hurting this team. It was particularly painful to watch last night.

by erikj07 on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

He might be better than this, but he’s had 2 bad games in relief and there are too many other options most games to take a chance on him again.

"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio

by Gdawg on Oct 12, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Happy Harry Day!

"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11

by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Could have also circled his brain full of book smarts.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 12, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Word.

"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11

by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he will

Today is big. But we should have Napoli behind the plate (hence breaking balls on 0-2 counts) and the more significant pieces of our bullpen rested.

"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11

by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some of my observations from last night

Torrealba does not call a good game behind the plate. He iseems to still be stuck in the National League mentality of always using the fastball to get ahead and get outs. Way too many 2 strike hits last night on fastballs. Also, in game 1, Francona mentioned Peralta wants to get something done within the first 3 pitches of an at-bat, so what do we throw on the first pitch, fastball that backs up middle in.

As for the hitters, we made it too easy on Fister by flailing away at the sinker inside. They showed that one little montage and 5 or 6 outs were made on balls at least 3 inches off the plate. McCarver kept saying the Rangers would adjust and make him go away, but they never did.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yep. Torrealba tends to get hung up on the fastball.

If one wanted to felate the schlong of second-guessing, one could postulate that the outcome could have been very different with Napoli behind the plate. But then again, victory has a million fathers and defeat is a lonely bastard.

"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11

by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I put a lot of the blame for the Miggy 2 out double on Torrealba.

I’m sitting watching the game with my mother and tell her “See, here comes the 2 strike slider outside. He got him with it both the previous two at-bats…”

Instead we got a fastball away, right where Miggy could get his arms extended.

by Parker20 on Oct 12, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

The thing is....

Maddux and Wash have the potential to control what is being called from the bench. So if Yorvit is callng a bad game, and wasting a strike outside the zone is the typical strategy on an 0-2 count then the managers and coaches need to step in.

by Philar on Oct 12, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre's knee

anyone read anything about how he’s doing with that?

by erikj07 on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

we barely meet one these criteria
many of which I could not post on this blog, or repeat in polite company

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

there is no polite company here

who is Adam kidding?

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding

-- Micah

"I’ve seen a lot of dicks, and no one has proved to me that this particular myth is not 100% accurate. " - Bob Loblaw

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess the well worn LSB meme that the local megia won't say anything negative

about Michael Young needs to find a grave.

LSB, the Queen Mother of Ranger Information always rides his ass but now we have an article from Cowlishaw, Durrett, a segment on The Ticket devoted to what to do about Michael Young and EGrant saying that he needs to be moved down in the order.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget

the Gil LeBreton article.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good.

Now let’s not ruin another thread.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Oct 12, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry about me...worry about the idiots that come in here and post nothing but

“3-27”

What do you think their agenda is?

Young hit well against Tampa but wasn’t rewarded (credit Matches for at least acknowledging that) but hasn’t hit well against Detroit.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right Josey, his hitting is likely affected at least somewhat by poor luck with his BABIP.

"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio

by Gdawg on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't want him batting 4th

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

And how about Josey.

You still not worried?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

STOP.

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Oct 12, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm capable of having a reasonable conversation with Josey.

It’ll be okay.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all, 'Stick.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do you think the issue is?

Just luck? Bat speed? Tough pitchers?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mostly bad luck v Tampa and probably over anxious against Detroit.

They’re pounding him inside early and he hasn’t adjusted.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep him at 4th or move him down?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

For all the talk on here about batting order not mattering,

there sure is a lot of discussion regarding where Young hits in the lineup.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

People argue how much batting order matters

not that it doesn’t matter at all.

"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio

by Gdawg on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where did you get this info?

Or did you figure it out yourself?

Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?

by Buttermaker on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Batting order does matter.

It just doesn’t make a tremendous difference. It’s not a 30% swing or anything like that… but it does have a small impact.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because every little bit counts.

You don’t hamstring yourself even a little if you can avoid it.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

So how do you determine who hits where?

Should you change your order based on the SSS of the playoffs?

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's purely results based.

I would expect they have coaches and scouts observing their players and being able to tell how far off their baseline they are.

Physical maladies, fatigue (both mental and physical) can impact a player. I would never expect a manager to simply go by numbers or stats to make a decision like that.

But Young is in the worst funk he’s been in all year… having him in the middle of your lineup if his current ability is diminished for whatever reason has an impact.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you're going to bash Young, get it right.

His worst funk of the season was June 1-9 when he went 4 for 39 and it was very, very similar to this funk.

Hit the ball well for 15 at bats or so and then hit a 25 at bat funk.

He came out it then with no issues although I do believe Wash moved him to 5th in the order and Beltre up to clean-up (that may have happened before June 9 though).

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought of that funk in early June.

But without looking I thought this one was longer.

But that was the dates throwing me off… 9/30 to 10/11. A lot more off days in the playoffs.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to post the June numbers.

I say you leave him right where he is. If you trust him to hit, trust him now. You can’t complain about SSS all the time and than ignore it in this circumstance.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

What would it take as a manager to have you make a change then?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

In the postseason

pretty much nothing. You use the season to figure out what lineup you like best. Once you get to the postseason, stick with that lineup. Anything else to me reeks of panic.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think there's a middle ground

Between moving things for the sake of it and sitting on your hands and pretending that every player is exactly the same every day.

For example… did you have an issue with Mitch Moreland getting benched?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

Moreland has been a platoon player all year. Same with moving Hamilton back to CF so Murphy could play. That’s not a good analogy.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

You said, "pretty much nothing"

I took that to mean “pretty much nothing”.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

In terms of

your everyday players and where they hit. Every team has the lower order guys that shuffle in and out.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Moreland's been a platoon player all year. . .

. . . but he was benched against platoon strength.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is not an everyday part of the lineup

was my point. Comparing Young to Moreland is silly and you know it.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure I do.

But Moreland wasn’t benched because it fit platoon purposes.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never said he did.

He asked me if I had a problem with Mitch getting benched and I said no. Perhaps I should have said part time player.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was just trying to get context for "pretty much nothing"

You asked me some very simple questions that you already knew the answer to. I figured that’s how prefer to communicate.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

And the lefty hitter who took his place. . .

. . . actually has a reverse split for his full career.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with Mitch Moreland

getting benched.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone does.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Comparing his ability to Young is silly.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't.

I was getting context from ASL.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

When you're up 2-1, it's a big fucking panic.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

To me

it would be right up there with Avery Johnson changing his starting lineup for a series against the 8th seed in the playoffs.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd have to see his approach today and how others are hitting, 'Stick.

Since I don’t want Beltre clogging the bases (assuming he can hit on the road this week), the person I’m thinking about making my clean-up hitter if Young continues to scuffle is Napoli.

I leave Cruz right where he is…wanna say they’ve tried to make him a clean-up hitter in the past but he shit his pants (quick, have a LSB Do-Gooder suck on that bottle of research).

Napoli gets on base and hits with power on the road and at home. He would also make pitchers go right at Josh…that’s your clean-up hitter.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey look... the Beltre can't hit on the road agenda!

Took awhile to get that out.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm smiling while I post this.

I recognize that it irritates you when Young is slighted and this is partially retaliatory.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want him clogging up the bases

with several players behind him who hit for lots of power.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would you rather he hit in front of guys with less power?

Say Michael Young, David Murphy, Yorvit Torrealba, Mitch Moreland? Wouldn’t that be worse because they are less likely to hit home runs?

by Heebs on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blah blah blah.

He hits on the road for 10 years and in a partial season only hits mediocre on the road.

He doesn’t “decide” to not on the road anymore than Young decides to get in a slump.

You’ve got a very long history of Beltre hitting on the road (a decade!) to tell you it’s not a systemic problem.

But you keep harping on it. If Beltre can’t hit on the road, then Michael Young can’t hit in the playoffs. Neither of those statements are true.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you're not worried about Young?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am... but not because it's the playoffs.

I’m worried because he didn’t get many days off and it’s been a long season.

I do not think he’s a choker.

I’m also worried about Beltre now that his knee is jacked up.

But much like Young isn’t a choker… Beltre isn’t someone who magically can’t hit on the road.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Joseyisms aside

I agree that Naps is a better fit for the 4 spot. I’d normally go with Beltre, but he is clearly limping after that foul ball and might end up being a liability.

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would go Napoli regardless of Beltre.

Napoli has been our best hitter all year long.

Right now… I go

Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton CF
Napoli C
Cruz RF
Beltre 3B
Young 1B
Murphy LF
Torrealba DH

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like it.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm.

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

looks good to me

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by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd want Gentry in center

in Comerica, but that’s because I’m paranoid and have an unhealthy like for Craig Gentry.

So I’d go something like

Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton LF
Napoli C
Cruz RF
Beltre 3B
Young 1B
Murphy DH
Gentry CF

by ftwdrummer on Oct 12, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You better read this post because it took forever

Anecdotes re: Slumps

MY is currently 3/27 (.111)

On June 10, he was in the midst of a 2/31 slump (.065)

Over the next 7 games, he proceed to hit 10/27 (.370)
If you expand that to 14 games, he hit 24/59 (.407)

On June 18, in the midst of a 4/24 slump (.167)

Over the next 7 games, he went on to hit 14/28 (.500)

Ultimately, This happens to every hitter. It’s extremely inconvenient that it’s during the playoffs, but unless you think MY is mind-fucked by the big game, it’s pure luck. Most of this blog (wisely) discounts the value of clutch, for the most part. I don’t see how that same principle doesn’t apply, here as well.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

still a good post

calm in LSB storm, Jobu. That’s what you is.

by elvis1isking on Oct 12, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

And he looked bad during the second slump but that

was on the heels of The Death March when he (and Napoli were carrying This Thing) played every day without taking a day off…when it happened to be the hottest summer in the history of DFW.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't have HFA without him

That being said… he needs to get this thing goin.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Someone once said

if you start the year 0-20, you’re a slow starter. If you end the year 0-20, you’re a chocker. If you go 0-20 in June or July, no one knows, and no one cares.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate chockers.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fucking Jayhawks

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

My best friends from college are asshole Jayhawks

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

October 15 is a big day for them.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

To get destroyed

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

College hoops start that day...at least practice.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Midnight Madness

That was always fun.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Young is choking at all.

I think he’s either worn out due to his age and not getting enough days off… or it’s a mental thing from pushing too much.

Of course I guess if it is a mental thing from pushing too much that actually is choking.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Arod's disease.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

or...

it’s just a shitty time to go into a slump (which baseball players tend to have happen to them).

by elvis1isking on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

That slump and recovery I just showed was September

Do you really think that September push just depleted his reserves? I’m not saying it’s impossible, I just wouldn’t argue it. Seems more like trying to support a conclusion than actual analysis.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's tired, I don't think he's choking

and I don’t think he’s hurt.

I think he was over anxious last night and hasn’t made the necessary adjustments.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just think his timing is slightly off

Hopefully he’ll have that worked out today

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

his approach is pretty poor right now

he is not doing a good job a staying back and going to right field which is his bread and butter. he’s been pulling the ball quite a bit

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think his problem

is he’s trying to go to RF on inside pitches.

thus, grounder.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

not really

he stands so far off the plate he usually is able to punch any ball to right field. He takes the inside ball to right field plenty. He’s just flailing impatiently right now

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rangers played their last game v Tampa on

October 4 and then had 3 days off before the Saturday game v Detroit.

They got another day off and then played two games in a row.

Young’s not “worn out due to age.”

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this is the other thing

You’re never as rested as in the playoffs. Plus, he’s DH’d a good amount this year.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then is it mental?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Totally mental, dude.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is possible.

But given that Young diminished greatly last year… I’ve been worried about him trailing off this year as well.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is true.

He also spent more time at DH.

I’m not saying that’s definitely what it is… but you can’t say that it definitely isn’t.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're throwing out a narrative to support the conclusion

you’ve already made.

Stubborn is stubborn, but weak narratives are the tool of Josey

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just speculating on my concerns.

I’m not being stubborn and saying it’s true.

It could be a random slump. I really hope it is… because then maybe he’ll come out of it.

He never really came out of it last year.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

My fail

he was terrible down the stretch last year

That was this year. I still think it’s a fluke, but the stats from last year don’t back me up :)

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Last year was absolutely not a fluke.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm worried about Beltre's body beginning to break down.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well... other than continually fouling it off his leg

He’s been fine. Monday he hit two doubles (and one that was inches from a HR).

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fought the hamstring for most of

the season (I think he tweaked it in Atlanta on that nice catch he made in foul ground) and now his knee must have the mother of all bruises on his knee.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

well the knee doesn't have anything to do w/ breaking down

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

i have the same worries about Face

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

To me it looks like he may be bailing out

If there are mechanics for hitting, on an outside pitch he probably would normally step a little towards right field or up the middle. He is one of the most backwards hitters (2 strikes) I have ever seen, but one of the best outside pitch hitters I have ever seen. When he is on, he can usally adjust and punish inside strikes. He seems out of his typical groove right now. Hopefully he can spot it from video.

by Philar on Oct 12, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

The only way you should is if you think the player’s psyche is helped by it, which requires ignorant speculation on our parts.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep

MY isn’t the kind of player that needs a wake-up call.

He does need to start hitting better, but so do 3-4 other guys.

Unless Wash just wants to go all Joe Maddon on us and completely change the entire lineup just for shake-up’s sake… don’t see the point in moving (just) Young.

by elvis1isking on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why would there be a clubhouse impact at all?

Especially now of all times?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The appearance of panic

or lack of trust in your longest tenured player.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Conversely...

It can also cause an issue in the clubhouse if the team thinks a player is dragging them down and the manager does nothing about it.

I’m not saying that’s true in this case… but there is another side to that coin (as there always is)

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those guys know

that everyone slumps. I would almost guarantee you no one thinks Young is dragging them down. They all believe Young will bust out every time he’s up.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he is dragging them down, per se

but it doesn’t mean it won’t change, and Wash certainly shouldn’t knee-jerk because of it.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it'd be more likely to seem like a

knee-jerk reaction to move him down because of a 27 ab slump

than the clubhouse turning on MY despite his season-long average in the .330-.350 range.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

there isn't a chance in Hell

that the clubhouse has turned or will turn on Young.

by elvis1isking on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leadership, baby.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Young needs to be moved down just to decrease his PAs

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Probably not today...I'd roll with the same order again

although I’m now concerned about Beltre clogging up the bases.

I’d reassess after seeing what happens today.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

/Dusty Baker

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hitting Beltre in front of Napoli and Cruz if that is the case

Considering they are the two best home run hitters on the team. Would you rather he be somewhere else?

by Heebs on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah... another team.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's just slightly late on everything

leading to poor grounders on the inside pitch.

It’s almost like he’s applying his oppo approach to those jammed pitches. He stands pretty far back, but that’s not easy to do, regardless.

Good Face gets around on those and drives them to left.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

well of course, he's been awful

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

A noticable downgrade.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

No joke....

My mute button was utilized frequently last night…

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Terry F was great

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was good

Better than I expected. He was a nice mix of knowledgeable yet humble. McCarver is the opposite. Pedantic yet uninteresting.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

McCarver always seems on the cusp of making a good point

and than you realize he is just reading off a notes page and doesn’t have any analysis to go with it.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tim McCarver is going to be insufferable if we play St. Louis

Not that he isn’t anyway, but he will have a clear bias having played for them.

"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11

by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

i've been jamming w/ Nadel and Bus

Buck and McCarver are just awful

keep on rockin' in the free world !

by mkassio on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

On the plus side, we now know everything he knows about oblique injuries.

Baseball is a game of oblique angles, after all.

"self policing" implies that the group will implement punishments based on violations of the group’s defined ethic. What are we gonna do? Make fun of someone until they quit the internet forever? - Bob Loblaw 7/21/2011

by Mike the Grate on Oct 12, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why is everyone who leaves or tries to leave Boston cast out as a scapegoat and a problem?

"Don’t want to spend my night waiting in line unless it’s for more beer."
--EssBee, on LoneStarBall, Jan. 21, 2010

by ghtd36 on Oct 12, 2011 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I have no idea about the dynamics

But I think it’s kind of lame if Theo signed those two monster contracts and then bolted town.

Rumors may be he was forced to sign them, though.

I don’t blame Tito at all.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I find solace in knowing that

Mikey’s not losing any sleep or putting any thought into his recent suckitude. Heaven forbid he watch some films or take some extra BP

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 12, 2011 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather him not lose sleep.

Do you have any idea whether he’s taking extra BP or watching film?

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

MY's gone through plenty of slumps in his career, and ends up hitting over .300

He’ll be fine, we just have to hope he breaks out before it’s too late.

The key to breaking out of a slump is not losing sleep, by the way. Not sure if you were being sarcastic on your first point or not.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think his "losing sleep" is part of the problem, actually

It sure looks like he’s pressing now. That’s how slumps (which can easily start with a little neglect of the Luck Dragon or BABIP misfortune) get worse; guys start trying too hard, overswinging, trying to do too much with the ball, and wind up digging an even deeper hole.

Mike Young knows how to hit. He knows how to break out of a slump. We just really need him to do it.

I’m sorry, comrades, I’m leaving him in there (at worst, I’d flip him and Naps in the order).

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
Rule 1 of Metroplex sports: Never root for Philadelphia. -Steve Estep

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would too

Young is still a good hitter and is as likely as anyone on this team to turn it around. Don’t go crazy over a handful of tough games.

by Heebs on Oct 12, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

That wouldn't be "at worst".

Even when Young was hitting well Napoli should have been flipped with him.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

There were people online (admittedly, most of this was kneejerk reaction)

calling for Young to be benched, or batted in the 9 hole.

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
Rule 1 of Metroplex sports: Never root for Philadelphia. -Steve Estep

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

my problem with it is, young did about the same thing last postseason too.

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes... but that's probably unrelated.

Young was struggling in August and September last year too.

He ended this year hitting well.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

i know they are relatively unrelated, im not trying to make any kind of connection or anything.

just saying its frustrating when one of your best offensive weapons during the regular season has been essentially a non-factor in the post-season, so much so that he has practically hurt this team more than he has helped.

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a funny dynamic in LSB.

When Young has an excellent season (like this year) Vast Segments of LSB are quick to point out that he’s really not that good (“Look at his WAR!!!!!”) and that he shouldn’t be getting as much credit as he’s been getting.

Heaven forbid, he goes thru a slump. He’s the person who gets the blame (go look at the GDT & PDT) for a loss even though the three hitters behind him go 0 for 11, Colby goes brain-dead with Cabrera and Koji shits all over the place.

Clint…current caller on Norm’s show is a fucking idiot.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

People are mad at Young for his body of work in the playoffs.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

His WAR was pretty good this year.

Especially for a part time DH.

Just not as good as an excellent fielding second baseman or excellent fielding third baseman.

Defense does matter. Position does matter.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Musers were saying

Maddux claimed he told Colby that Martinez was hurt and Colby said after the game he didn’t know. There’s a rat in the woodpile there somewhere.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Vast Segments want their bowl of blood.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

And this was Beltre instead...

You’re sitting on your hands saying nothing?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't let his name calling get to you

just because he’s hypocritical about it.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What makes you think it gets to me?

Josey doesn’t really rile me up.

Much like him, I enjoy an argument/scuffle.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I enjoy the argument, too

trying to catch him in hypocrisy is what’s silly.

He’s always hypocritical and he’ll always dodge your attempts to catch him in it.

(Note: I am currently being hypocritical)

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

How are you catching me in hypocrisy when

I’ve acknowledged Young hasn’t been good in this post-season?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you got nothing.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll engage you in conversation

when you bring something fresh or rational.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

When was I hypocritical?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

"It's all about production."

Thirteen minutes later— “It’s about winning and losing.”

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

And Michael Young hasn't produced in the playoffs this year.

It really doesn’t matter how hard he hit the ball in Tampa if he didn’t get good results.

Now…if you’re trying to decipher whether or not he’s in a horrific slump …you might want to check on how well he hit the ball in Tampa.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

last night was bad for

Young, Beltre (injury I know), Napoli and Cruz, but Young was obviously the worst and one that has struggled consistently through these 7 playoff games. I think he’ll snap out of it, but he needs to do it quick.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

What did I say when Beltre started the Tampa series 1 for 11?

Didn’t I call his Game 4 performance “legendary”?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well... you pointed out when you called it legendary

That he had been a spare in the series thus far.

I’m curious what you would say if he was hitting 3 for 27?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

1 for 11 is spare.

I’d say he wasn’t hitting well.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

if he was at 3 for 27.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well thankfully we'll never really know.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre is 8 for 28 right now, correct?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure.

3 HR
1 single before that
3 for 5 on Monday
1 hit in the last game

8 hits sounds about right. Also of value… 3 HR and 2 2B.

Those XBH are good things.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

*last game as in last Tampa game.

Not last night. Miggy robbed him last night.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is funny

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Josey

I actually take that as a compliment coming from you.

by sanangelofan on Oct 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

You were the caller?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I was wondering.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

And I think I am right that Young would throw a fit if moved to 7th. Not saying he would demand a trade again, but a behind the scenes fit.

by sanangelofan on Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

He wouldn't be happy.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

And they proceeded to shred you afterwards...Young has never,

ever been an issue from March thru October and he was lied to or as he called it “misled and manipulated” by Ranger management (JD) this past off-season.

He’s revered by teammates, opponents, his own manager, other managers, Nolan Ryan …it was fucking stupid and completely baseless to say he’d throw a fit if they moved him to 7th in the order.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well... he thought he was misled.

Given that he played every day all over just like they told him all along… he wasn’t actually misled.

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by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think your an idiot

If you think he wouldn’t. Like I said, even Evan Grant, Young’s fan club president, said he should be dropped in the order, and Norm agreed that he would as well. But i said Wash wouldn’t do it, and I was right. I think Wash knows it wouldn’t set well with Young. Wash dropped Cruz down and that wasn’t even the playoffs when he made that move. Why wouldn’t he do the same with Young. Also, they didn’t shred me afterwards, they just made the point that he hasn’t caused problems from March to October

by sanangelofan on Oct 12, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Wash isn't panicking.

Not moving Young down has nothing to do with Wash fearing what Young’s reaction would be.

That’s just fucking stupid on all levels.

And they absolutely shredded you…it was one of the least sophisticated takes from a baseball fan I’ve ever heard.

Make no mistake, he was nice to you only because you were that stupid. It was like coming across somebody “special” in a public setting who does or says something blatantly inappropriate. You’re nice, you nod but then you move on.

That’s what happened to you today.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Once again

Your take on something has no factual basis. Your famous for that.

by sanangelofan on Oct 12, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

They shredded you and you're lucky Norm is nice.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

People tend to rant when they expect perfection.

I ranted a little myself last night on the home runs. I personally don’t think the Rangers were as sharp as they could have been. Hopefully that was a weakeup call.

by Philar on Oct 12, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young didn't get to where he is today without putting in the necessary work and preparation.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a good thing we had Endy Chavez in the lineup yesterday

Otherwise, that game might’ve gotten out of hand.

/trollin’

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

It might have been a positive

If we were going to lose that game either way, I’d rather Wash be convinced to never start him in a playoff game, again.

Now, if only we could find a way to convince Wash that you are allowed to use your bench to dictate favorable match-ups and improve defense….

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

although mainly a day of rest for Murphy can’t hurt him. By the way, when was the last time Murph DH’d. I know it won’t happen because of the two catcher situation.

by Philar on Oct 12, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

One positive to last night was

we kept it just close enough that Leyland felt the need to use Benoit and Valverde for the 2nd day in a row.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed.

benoit should be ok for today, but that makes him no go for tomorrow tho, and doesnt that make velveeta a no go for tonight?

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Valverde has pitched 3 innings in two days...

And traveled in between. I’d be shocked if he was available today.

We’re going to help the Tigers out though… we’ll be up by enough they won’t feel the need to use him.

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by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really ?

I’ll you bet you anything he comes in if a save opp is there.

by ruben_sierra#21 on Oct 12, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Third day in a row?

After pitching two innings on Monday and another yesterday?

I suppose it’s possible. But I expect he’s unavailable.

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by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping that today will be the third

and the Rangers can beat up on them and knock them out of game 5.

"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio

by Gdawg on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

We were able to rest Ogando, Feliz, and My Cadums while Jack Benny and Velveeta are one step closer to a spectacular implosion.

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Verde is due

to blow a save….he flirts with danger every time out. You would think at some point it will catch up with him.

by stnlycupchmps99 on Oct 12, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's fine for next year.

I’m okay with him not having any more save opportunities.

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by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most heartily agree

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Concept of being due

is the Gambler’s Fallacy. Not having blown one recently does not make the next save situation more likely to be blown.

by AsDevilsRun on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

if this were a flip of the coin, sure...

but his escaping of blown saves has been on the luckier side of that line. sort of regression of luck

by kevinkinsler on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Concept of being due is the Gambler's Fallacy"

He’s as likely to blow a save as any other closer with a 3.5ish FIP.

by AsDevilsRun on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

This^

We’re not talking about poker here. It’s not a simple “is the next card going to be an ace, or not?” question.

Valverde’s peripherals all point toward an impending disaster. Sure, it might never happen. It is within the realm of possibility for him to go an entire season without blowing a save.

But with those numbers? Not likely.

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crap

Replied to wrong post. Oh well.

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you...

Good gamblers know that coin flips are pretty much independent chances. Relievers with a lot of work potentially develop a tired arm, not exactly an independent chance.

by Philar on Oct 12, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK,

I understand that his peripherals don’t lend themselves to a perfect season. I’m saying that the fact that he hasn’t blown a save does not mean he is more likely to blow the next save.

That is all I’m saying. If he had originally mentioned recent workload affecting it, that would be true. He didn’t.

Hasn’t blown a save != more likely to blow next save.
Pitching a lot in a short amount of time = more likely to blow next save.

by AsDevilsRun on Oct 12, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

having to throw more high leverage pitches than he'd like two games in a row does make him more likely to blow up if he's used again today.

It’s not a coin flip situation. His actions from the prior two games do affect his likely performance today.

That and the Jobu voodoo curse I put on his poochie gut.

by 3hacks on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

He reminds me of reliever CJ.

Always would put people on base. Most of the time would wriggle out of it (with spectacular implosions occasionally)

by Parker20 on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

brian wilson does that all the time.

constantly walks and gives up hits.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling this series could very well end on Valverde's first blown save of the season

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

is it a trend????

That we have lost both games with MY at first and Veets in the line up…

by stnlycupchmps99 on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I've kicked that dead horse all year.

There is a reason Napoli has caught most of the games down the stretch.

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Veets didnt catch game 1

against TB he was DH if I am not mistaken…..and Naps doesnt seem to be the same at the plate since the collision in tampa.

by stnlycupchmps99 on Oct 12, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Naps should be rested now

and ready to call a CGSO

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree about Naps

after the collision, he hasn’t been the same.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

i heard 2013....not sure tho

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by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Plus unless another team moves to the AL, or a Al team moves to the NL, there will now be 15 teams in each League meaning interleague games all year long

by bigsteve on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, wow

I never thought about that effect.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why

I don’t think it happens.

by bdavison94 on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gammons does
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by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

So they're going

to be playing an inter-league series all year long? It seems pretty crazy to think that a team like Boston could be playing in an NL ballpark on the last day of the year when they are fighting for the playoffs.

by bdavison94 on Oct 12, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet it will happen.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man that is nuts

Could expansion be in the works? That seems absurd to me.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's now two well-executed hit-and-runs that were foiled by bad luck and this one ended up screwing the Rangers.

That’s annoying.

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by jam0152 on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah thats been pretty frustrating too

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- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fister looked like

a #2 to me. Two plus pitches in his curveball and change, and a good sinking fastball which should lead to a lower BABIP and HR %. His xFIP was lower on the road so not sure why everyone just assumes he was good because he pitched in pitchers parks. I’d rather not face him in a game 7 vs Colby at the Ballpark.

by ruben_sierra#21 on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

And away we go..............................

Someone put the warning flag at the top of the thread……

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Ron just Nap will probably catch today and Murph back in outfield

and Torreabla will probably DH

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I am OK with this.

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yor Tor's name gets butchered as often as mine does

Several announcers pronounce it just the way you spelled it.

-- Micah

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by The Best Micah on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I abla Yorvit

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh

Me gusta.

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ron just said

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

The hot hand scenario is at play right now

And Moreland is getting buried for his failures. Not that I disagree…

by Heebs on Oct 12, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Gentry play a game over Murphy

and put him in CF

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Given the pitching matchups going into the series, this was the game that I thought the Rangers were least likely to win."

Agreed. I expected the Rangers to win the series without expecting them to win that game, so I’m still expecting them to win the series.

It’s just sad going from the potential of stomping on their throats to the potential of having them get back in this series. And it’s frustrating watching the offense get to Fister early and then go all operation shutdown the rest of the night.

Oh well.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Did our offense really "get to Fister" though?

Weren’t a couple of those 1st inning hits little bloopers?

by bigsteve on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

1-0 with runners on 1st and 3rd with nobody out i believe in the first.....

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by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know we scored and the first three guys got hits

But if a couple of those were little bloopers or bleeders then I wouldn’t classify it as “getting to a pitcher”.

by bigsteve on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

According to Nadel and Busby

Andrus hit a seeing eye single and Hamilton hit a looper that most SS catch, but Peralta took a bad angle on.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup, he ran in initially

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by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

1st and 2nd with no one out. MY may have hit the best ball of the inning.

not that he hit it well…but if he has same luck as the other 3….we’re in major business

by Doc Mabee on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

agree

except the “getting to Fister early” was pretty much BABIP

Medium ground ball through the hole…slow roller through right side. flair just over the SS who took a bad route to the ball (looked like if he would have just gone at an angle he would have caught it…instead he went straight at 2nd base). MY may have had the hardest hit ball in the inning and it was a DP.

by Doc Mabee on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

MY had a -21% WPA.

My heavens.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Drowning. Davisian.

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by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are you going to be adumbrating about anything today?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it nice being able to lick your own balls?

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ask your dog.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Infinity.

It was over 30% at least.

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by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Almost twice as bad.

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by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to look right now.

But I know bases-loaded/no-outs in the bottom of the 9th inning or later is almost 95% to win. It’s going to drop when there’s one out, but not much.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holy christ.

-43%

Almost a full loss by his lonesome self. 34% of that from the GIDP.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

fact

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

His tweet he sent to his wife/gf was freaking funny though

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

fuck that place

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

and not playing today would be awful.

we have the upper hand in the pen right now and need to take advantage of it.

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- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

We are rested and ready.

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's raining right now.

It’s supposed to clear up for game time but then maybe a few scattered showers again around 5 ET.

by rcpratt on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Delay that bitch until 5, please!

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by jam0152 on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

And FUCK FOX

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by jam0152 on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seconded

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Motion Passed

Someone alert Torre

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

4 hours to game time

seems like they have to protect the integrity of the game by calling it now regardless of the forecast. (Note: They should play, just still mad about Sunday’s decision. Yes, I know I should let it go.)

My laughter is more important than quality metaphors.

by Cav0 on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thinking out loud here...if they do postpone today's game until tomorrow...wouldn't they

throw Verlander at us in Game 4? Do we counter with Matty Ice and use CJ in Game 5?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, and then go on to win the Harry vs. Verlander matchup

and spray paint “FUCK YOU, LEYLAND” in the Comerica grass on the way out.

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll donate the paint

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison has pitched really well against some great pitchers

when we really needed a win during the season

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd think we'd throw CJ

I would like to have followed that up with Holland on normal rest, situation in which he is much better, then throw Harrison.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

If there's any chance X-Factor could be affected the game's getting called

You know, fuck it. Cancel today and tomorrow’s games right now so we can all focus on X-Factor. Just do a couple double headers over the weekend.

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

they can play 3 games in one day, right?

/fox

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Comerica is actually a pretty neutral park.

But hey, people have been calling it pitcher-friendly since 2000, so let’s just go with it.

by rcpratt on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep, it even inflates homeruns for righties.

Though it wayyyyyyy deflates them for lefties.

wOBA is 97/103.

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by philkid3 on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Easter Island Man and Jebediah Feldman

are going to be our heroes before this series is through.

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I prefer Hezekiah

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hezekiah Obediah Feldman?

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

HOF

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard the Dominican guys ride Ogando pretty hard

They call him “two-heads” in light of the cyst on his face and ask him when his baby brother will be born. Merciless

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by eclou on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

About Josh Hamilton

Not sure anyone else notices, but it seems hes too casual in his swings , dont see too many connecting. I think he needs more concentration and batting practice.

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by RhodesianRanger on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

his swings look easy because he makes baseball look too easy.

his timing is a little off but he’s fine.

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by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

if this is a bit, its a pretty shitty one, fyi

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Point! Good Point!

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by JDT217 on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any word on Beltre?

He was looking pretty hobbled toward the end of the game last night.

by MikeEl on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Ron said he is going to play

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

How bad is he injured though?

I’m not sure I want him playing if he’s not able to do much more than trot…

by MikeEl on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

i highly doubt wash would let beltre play with a serious injury.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, He hasn't been able to do much more than trot

all season. Remember when he almost got lapped a few times on the bases?

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beltre is an absolute hardass

No way he comes out of the lineup without a seriously debilitating injury.

Now, should he? Debatable, depends on how mobile he is. But he’s not going to voluntarily sit the bench, and Warsh isn’t about to put him there either.

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wash just texted ESPN Radio (Ben and Skin)

Beltre moving much better and will play today….

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 12, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

good news.

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by shock00 on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

That’s where I am hearing this stuff

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like to see how he spells things.

I assume he spells how words sound.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

beltray isnot hert.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beltray moovin good

he play two day

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

I had to get up n Beltre, but he play

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about sexting?

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by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

that makes me upchuck

“getcha head outcha butt”

"You want to give me poo poo?" - Josh Lewin 7/1/2009

by TXRangersFan on Oct 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

gimp do what he do

I’m a pricking machine!

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 12, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

So which player or coach--either team...

took Aretha Franklin home last night?

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

She looked fatter than normal.

She looked like a fat black Barney, from the Simpsons, wearing a wig.

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's flailing

I don’t fault him for swinging on the first pitch, because it looks like it’s coming right down the middle.

Also, he looks like he was trying to pull that. He looks like he was just a tad late, and it cut down.

I’m not even close to an expert, but that’s my best guess.

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's not flailing here but

he was opening up the hips and should a bit to pull the ball. it would be interesting to see a comparison of him going to right field on a similar pitch location, but I don’t expect anybody to do that.

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by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe an expert can analyze the swing

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

What happens to a lot of (RH) hitters who are hitting weak grounders to the left side of the

infield or pop-ups to CF/RF is their inability to maintain connection when their bat hits the ball….those are the results we’re seeing from Young right now.

“Connection” = your lower half and top half being in synch when contact is made.

I don’t have the professional eye to spot it when it’s happening, I just know it exists and I suspect that may also be what’s happened to Young in the Detroit series.

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"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

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by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not call it an M...

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Oct 12, 2011 11:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

M

The arms on the M go straight down. The arms on the W go out at an angle. Not quite the same.

by Heebs on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know

Old meme

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hips are WAY open

From this, he looks like he’s opening up early, either trying to generate some pull power or simply being just off on his timing

When he’s right, he’ll keep his head down on the ball and his hips won’t open that quickly. That’s what gives him power to the opposite field and the ability to hit the outside pitch.

by CO Ranger on Oct 12, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if you're hips are open, you're not maintaining connection with your top half.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

that’s the out-of-whack or bad timing references … when the hands and core aren’t working together you get a lot of bad contact

I think it’s pretty obvious he’s in a slump. We just have to hope that he can break out, b/c a hot #4 hitter would make this offense a bit more scary.

Or actually, I guess we have to hope that it doesn’t matter one way or another if he gets hot or stays cold. I just want the Pennant. I don’t care how it happens or who the hitting/pitching hero is. Just win … and raise another flag

by CO Ranger on Oct 12, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa safecount.net

your popup can go fuck itself

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by jam0152 on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

we are just glad he didnt tag him right?

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

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by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

why?

It’s still a “force” out even if he’s tagged.

by Doc Mabee on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Check my post from last night for why it didn't matter

Here

My laughter is more important than quality metaphors.

by Cav0 on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol I was watching the game at Texas Roadhouse when that happened

Just about choked on my burger.

Immediately fired off a text to my friend in Houston that said “Beltre rules.”

cs:b

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lineup Young still clean up

Game 4 lineup: Kinsler, 2b; Andrus, ss; Hamilton, cf; Young, 1b; Beltre, 3b; Napoli, c; Cruz, rf; Murphy, lf; Torrealba, dh; Harrison, p.

by LBBRangerFan on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Wash not panicking although I hope Beltre can run the bases if he gets on.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope that if he is on third with less than two outs and the game is tied in the ninth

that Ron puts Gentry or German in to run for him

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope Young is on to get driven in.

Shit… I don’t even care. Young and Beltre can both go 0-4 as long as we win.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 12, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo! That's all that really matters, 'Stick.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young is overdue

Like an unreturned library book.

Today he breaks out with a double and a home run.

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Oct 12, 2011 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that is asking a bit much

I’m calling 3-5 with a double, 2 singles, and 2 RBI.

by Heebs on Oct 12, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like 5 at bats

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 12, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll go 3-4

HR, double, single, and a sac fly. 4 RBIs.

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Oct 12, 2011 11:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

fuck, ill even be happy with a few extended at bats or a walk or something.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

When was the last time Young hit a HR?

I’m seriously curious.

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by Aqua on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

september 1st

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- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

and before that, august 5th.

2 HRs since July 25th

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

August 5

Two-run HR with two outs in the 9th to tie Cleveland.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."

"You want false modesty? F that."

by Josey Wales on Oct 12, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok, that not what we are talking about tho.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

six weeks ago

my battery on my 3GS was going bad to the point that I had to do something, so I upgraded to the iphone 4.

That Siri or whatever it’s called looks pretty damn cool.

by Black Francis on Oct 12, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

iphone 4 wont have siri.

at least not for the time being.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

That’s why I’m pissed that I couldn’t hold out. There’s some talk that a jailbreaking may open it up, but they don’t know because of something to do with the chip.

by Black Francis on Oct 12, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

September 1 at home against TB off Niemann

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Updates from Leyland

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Leyland just told Fox broadcasters that Martinez WILL play. Not sure on Young. #Tigers #postseason
52 seconds ago
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Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Just saw Verlander. Told him, “Raining a day early.” He smiled and said, “Supposed to rain tomorrow too, don’t worry.” #postseason #Tigers
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by LBBRangerFan on Oct 12, 2011 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know

…why on Earth they threw three straight fastballs to Cabrerra. Two and you’re lucky to get him in the hole, and then you throw a third one?

And if Comerica can’t confine Lewis’ pitching, that’s pretty scary.

by Black Francis on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Mr. Torrealba says "Hello" and points at you with an inverted index finger

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by Atticus F on Oct 12, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the most blatant bad decision of the night

Not poor execution, just a terrible decision.

Shows Miggy no respect.

“Hey, my name is Colby Lewis, my fastball is so good that I can throw three in a row past Miguel Cabrera.”

by Jobu. on Oct 12, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

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