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It's interesting... Everyone keeps talking about how "hot" the Cardinals were coming to the end of the regular season.  No one notes that their opponents in the World Series were even hotter.
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Texas finished the season on a 6-game win streak (and 10 of their final 11 games with the last three against the contending LA Angels of Anaheim) while St. Louis finished on a 2-game win "streak" against... the Houston Astros.  They only won 8 of their last 11 and that included the final 3 series against non-contenders.  Granted, 3 of Texas' final 4 opponents were also non-contenders.

Star-divide

St. Louis finished September with an 18-8 record (winning 7 of 8 series in that month) while Texas finished a game-and-a-half better with a 19-6 record (also with a 7-1 count in series wins).
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In its hottest (temperature) month (August), Texas was only 16-12.  St. Louis was only 15-13.  So, in the final TWO MONTHS of the season, Texas was a combined 35-18 (.660 winning percentage) while St. Louis was 33-21 (.611).
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Texas finished the LDS and LCS with the same number of wins (duh!) as St. Louis, but one fewer loss beating Tampa Bay in 4 games while St. Louis had to go the full five against, arguably, the best pitching staff in baseball.
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Texas offers Josh Hamilton.  St. Louis counters with King Albert.  Edge:  St. Louis.  Easily.
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Texas offers Adrian Beltre.  St. Louis counters with Lance Berkman.  Edge:  I think I'd have to call this one even; although, defensively, Beltre is premier at his position while Lance is below average.
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Texas offers Mike Napoli.  St. Louis counters with Matt Holliday.  Edge:  I'd give the edge to Napoli who has been healthier, but that edge is coming down as Matt continues to recover.  Both are unbelievably strong and either could bench press a truck over the centerfield wall.
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Texas offers Nelson Cruz.  St. Louis counters with David Freese.  Edge:  Texas.  Cruz has the experience and can absolutely carry his team now that he's healthy.  But, it's close.  Both can make their presence known on defense, too.
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Texas offers Ian Kinsler.  St. Louis counters with Yadier Molina.  Edge:  Texas.  Ian is far superior on the bases and has more power and is on base more (.255/.355/.477/.832) to (.305/.349/.465/.814) than Molina and routinely takes the pitcher to 7+ pitches per at bat while Molina is more a free-swinger.  And, Ian won't clog the basepath.
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Texas offers David Murphy.  St. Louis counters with Jon Jay.  Edge:  Even; although, Murphy can make his presence known right at that time when the opposing pitcher has begun to cruise and the rest of the Rangers' lineup has been lulled to sleep.  Murph is more likely to strike "out-of-the-blue" than any other player in either lineup and he does it with regularity.  Plus, his season second half was electric.
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Texas offers Elvis Andrus.  St. Louis counters with Rafael Furcal.  Edge:  Texas.  Elvis is a little better with the bat (bunting, average, gap power, working the count) and much better, at this stage of their careers, on the bases.  Elvis has more range, defensively, while Furcal is less likely to make a mistake.
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Finally,

Texas offers Michael Young.  St. Louis counters with a collage of second basemen who, in their wildest dreams would never be Michael Young.
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Texas lineup also will challenge the St. Louis pitchers driving them deep into counts.  All of the Texas hitters (with the exception of Hamilton) are expert in this.  If the Ranger pitchers (particularly their starters) will just throw strikes, the Cardinals are far less patient and the Texas pitchers should be more successful than their counterparts.
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The list is not in batting order position or defensive position order... just in order of their importance to the team as lined up against the other team's more similar hitter.
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Pitching-wise, neither team has shown any ability in this post season in their starters other than Chris Carpenter and, possibly, Matt Harrison.  Regular season comparisons would tend to marginally favor the Rangers.  And, both bullpens are premier.
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It all comes down to how well the managers use them.  Tony Larussa shows historic abilities there with input from a top-of-his-craft pitching coach in Dave Duncan.  Ron Washington sometimes doesn't appear to have a clue what he is doing, but he also has a top-of-his-craft pitching coach in Mike Maddux.  If he listens to his pitching coach and doesn't rotate his relievers like Chiclets looking for that guy who will absolutely blow up, he may well survive and see his team win the World Series.  If not?  Larussa will have the last laugh.

Poll
World Series Winner?
Texas in 4
39 votes
St. Louis in 4
7 votes
Texas in 5
280 votes
St. Louis in 5
9 votes
Texas in 6
457 votes
St. Louis in 6
25 votes
Texas in 7
34 votes
St. Louis in 7
19 votes
Series halted by Aremgeddon
30 votes

900 votes | Poll has closed

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Aremgeddon is next year

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 6:57 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Well in that case

Let’s win the fucking World Series twice before it happens!

lol.. man... dont get too drunk... but dont get not drunk enough that its rape
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jul 29, 2011 6:44 PM CDT

by Travis93 on Oct 18, 2011 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

A REM Geddon already happened when they broke up

now, Armageddon happens either Friday or Dec 2012.

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by WhipSmart on Oct 18, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the end of the world as we know it.

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 7:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You know how to edit a poll once it's been posted?

I saw the transposition in the proofreading… couldn’t get back to it without deleting it.

I can’t believe you were inane enough that this was all you got out of the article.

If at first you don't succeed, try the outfield! -- Ed

by eglooney on Oct 19, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Texas in 6

mostly because I have no idea what Aremgeddon is.

by Akalhar on Oct 18, 2011 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Prelude 12/21

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 7:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Aremgeddon isn't quite as bad as Armageddon

It’s merely the demise of a language.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

both you and Nolan have no confidence in this team.

Rangers in 4

Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011

by iblum on Oct 19, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

???
Texas lineup also will challenge the St. Louis pitchers driving them deep into counts. All of the Texas hitters (with the exception of Hamilton) are expert in this. If the Ranger pitchers (particularly their starters) will just throw strikes, the Cardinals are far less patient and the Texas pitchers should be more successful than their counterparts.

Uhhh…no. That’s a lot of fail.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 18, 2011 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Thats what i was thinking

We are an agressive offense

by Steve B on Oct 18, 2011 7:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep

Coming and going.

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by Brian Thomas on Oct 18, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh.....thats funny

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by shock00 on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's trying to be like GoET

He’s failing

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 7:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

eglooney that is

I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)

by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 7:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Glitch in the matrix

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Oct 18, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does John Jay have more grit than Murphy?

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Oct 18, 2011 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

That remains to be seen

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 7:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's black, isn't he?

So he can’t have grit.

He has athleticism.

by LSJ on Oct 18, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're shitting me, right?

I thought he was white

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Oct 18, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

I don’t really know what he is, actually. He’s from Miami, so maybe he’s another of Torii’s imposters.

by LSJ on Oct 18, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought for sure he was white

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

bi-racial?

So it’s half grift, half athleticism?

(satirical tone btw)

Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?

by Buttermaker on Oct 18, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not Grit

More Like Cream-O-Wheat

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Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.

by Atticus F on Oct 18, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

reminds me that

the seinfeld episode that was on today where elaine is dating this guy who she thinks is black so she enjoys being an interracial couple while the guy she’s dating think she’s hispanic

by studcrackers on Oct 19, 2011 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 18, 2011 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

CARDINALS IN 5

CARPENTER THROWS LESS THAN 11 PITCHES PER INNING TOMORROW.

by LiamP on Oct 18, 2011 7:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I say he throws 13.465 an inning

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 7:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

ARE YOU GOING TO ANY GAMES?

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by Brian Thomas on Oct 18, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHY ARE WE YELLING?

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 18, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOUD NOISES

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Oct 18, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bold

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 18, 2011 8:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll take the over.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Oct 18, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Article discounts likely Gentry ABs, especially vs. Garcia

Like Murph, Gentry’s also been smoking hot this past month. Two big differences though, Gentries glove is far superior and he’s been hitting righties too.

Personally, I’d rather have a Josh in LF, Gentry in CF the whole series, seeing how that’s (A) a much better defensive duo, (B) While Gentries lefty/right splits are fairly even, Murph is so bad versus lefties that LaRussa can shut him down at crucial ABs by going to the pen, and © Murph really rakes righties, and pinch hitting with Murph at crucial ABs could force LaRussa to take out righty pitchers sooner than he would rather do. LaRussa either has to take his chances with a righty vs. Murph, or bring in a lefty for only 1 ab, then going gack to righties to face Kins and Elvis.

The Murphy/Gentry question is especially crucial since they’re in front of the pitcher, and having the speeed of Gentry on base with pitchers bunting seems like the best option to me.

And to all the Murph lovers, I’m not discounting his talents, I just think nearly all his value lies in facing righties, and we can IMO tap that value the most in crucial ABs vs. righties that force Larussa to either take a big risk that Murph gets a big hit or burns through his pen quicker than he’d like too.

Not that it probably matters, Wash will probably play his gut and his gut is overly infatuated iwth Murph IMO.

Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?

by Buttermaker on Oct 18, 2011 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

well, I think they have 2 lefties in their pen

one of which is Arthur Rhodes (who will want for Texas to win because he gets a ring that way?) :)

Anyway, since Murph and Josh won’t be next to each other in the lineup, I don’t know how much LaRussa will go to a lefty for him. I guess Mitch might be batting behind him in Texas… but still who do you want to waste your lefty specialists on? Josh for one inning and Murph for one inning?

by JShoe on Oct 19, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

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