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Yu Darvish to ask to formally be posted

Via Hardball Talk comes the news that Japanese pitching sensation Yu Darvish will reportedly ask to be formally posted this offseason.

For those who aren't familiar with the posting system, if Darvish is posted, that means that major league teams will be invited to submit a sealed bid for the exclusive negotiating rights to Darvish over a four day period.  The highest bidder gets a thirty day window in which to negotiate a contract with Darvish.  If, after thirty days passes, no deal is struck, Darvish stays in Japan, and the team that won the bidding gets their money back from the bid.  If a deal is reached, then Darvish's team in Japan receives the posting fee.

Daisuke Matsuzaka famously went to Boston via the posting process in the 2006-07 offseason, when the Red Sox bid $51.1 million to get the rights to Matsuzaka.  Texas reportedly submitted a bid in the mid-$20 million range for Matsuzaka.

Darvish, if he were to come to the States, would be considered at least the most sought after Japanese pitcher since Matsuzaka, and probably the most highly sought after Japanese pitcher ever.  The Rangers have scouted him extensively and are considered to be one of the teams that will pursue Darvish most aggressively, should he be posted.

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Speculation exists that the posting process will be altered so there’s a choice among the top three bidders.

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by Conjunction on Oct 19, 2011 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

That and that one good Japanese restaurant in Irving.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 19, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Austin

Pretty darn good sushi in Austin. By some accounts, the best in the states.

by Neftali's arm on Oct 19, 2011 11:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mr Max

That place IS good.

What's the rumpus?

by Hypo-Luxa on Oct 19, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if the Rangers want that...

I watched an video on Japanese baseball that interviewed Darvish’s dad and he said that his favorite region is “New England.” Whether he would choose New York over others in the posting process because of that, I don’t know, but it’s certainly possible. But I also don’t think adjusting to America will be a huge deal for Darvish. His dad spoke near perfect English in the interview, so I think Darvish is probably pretty fluent.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 19, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would think...

the team would choose whose bid to go with since they are the one holding his rights.

by coolaid on Oct 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

marketing imho

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

New England

is 100% Red Sox country, he would be closer to New England in NYY

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

But I don't know if that matters during a baseball season

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure about Darvish's English

It’s possible it’s pretty good since I’m not sure his parents spoke any language to each other other than English. But Darvish’s dad lived here and Yu never did.

by ab03 on Oct 19, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Darvish’s dad went to high school in Boston (though he went to college in St. Pete)

by ab03 on Oct 19, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Darvish's parents met while both were attending college in Florida

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 19, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't favor us.

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 19, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

has anyone been to that japanese place in irving that the Japanese players like so much?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

wait...

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 19, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

whatevz!!

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 19, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

trololol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have

and it is really good stuff. Small and unassuming but the food is great

What's the rumpus?

by Hypo-Luxa on Oct 19, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, that's interesting

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good.

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 19, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

This seems like a much more fair option for the posted players.

This might also keep one team from posting a crazy price like 51 million. I could see his price being more in the 25 million to 35 million range. Which is high considering that has nothing to do with him and he won’t actually benefit any from that money.

by casew on Oct 19, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 19, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Trying to decide if I would rather have CJ or Yu.

"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan

by BigTex71 on Oct 19, 2011 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

yu

easily.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

the dollar isn't as strong as it was

so his team will get less money than when Matsuzaka was posted. Some have used this tidbit to predict that the Hams won’t post him or won’t except anything but a huge bid in dollar terms. Bah, I say. The exchange rate has nothing to do with what and when they can get a pile of cash for Darvish before he is free to negotiate with anyone. They’ll take the best bid.

I expect the Rangers to go hard after Darvish. I see no reason to fear a rise in payroll. The Rangers’ payroll could go up to $110M or so and they’d still be fine, I believe. With the success, attendance, market size, impending tv contract etc. etc. there is no reason the Rangers can’t have a top 10 payroll in MLB. If there are still 8 or 9 teams with higher payrolls that should tell you something about available revenues.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Darvish is younger and better than Matsuzaka

and I think there is a very good chance he is markedly better than Wilson over the next 5 years, particularly at the end of the deal. If you’re will to spend $85M or so on Wilson, I think another 10-20% on top of that for Darvish is quite reasonable.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

So

$50m posting fee and 5/$50m contract?

by robert_d_wilfong on Oct 19, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

that might do it

and I wouldn’t balk at that, really. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Nats, Blue Jays, or even the Royals take a stab at him. This is going to be more interesting than the Matsuzaka bidding process, more wild card teams seem interested.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm on board with that.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is big news ...

but so is this:

But I have yet to find a baseball executive or scout who views Wilson as an ace and very few who even think he is a definitive No. 2. Heck, one member of the Yankees decision-making apparatus told me he thinks Wilson is a No. 4 on a championship-caliber team.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/cc_negotiations_could_push_limits_45vynIEUWyH3KHmKlqW4JI/1

by robert_d_wilfong on Oct 19, 2011 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

What does championship caliber team mean to this Yankee?

The Rangers are surely championship caliber and he is our ace this year and he was 2 last year. Is he an ace for most elite pitching staffs? No, but elite pitching staffs do not equal championship caliber right Philly?

by CobraLewis on Oct 19, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

#4

On maybe the Phillies and that is about it. Even on a team like the Giants he would be their 2nd best (3rd at worst) starter. Only question marks Wilson might have at this point are his age and the fact that he only has a two year track record as a starter. Not that those are big question marks.

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

They mad

 Trying to spread propaganda to lower CJ’s price. He will make Lackey/Burnett money.

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

He mad

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Oct 19, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

He probably is best considered a number 2.

But by that ruling, so are most the #1s in the league.

by Parker20 on Oct 19, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

#1 != ace though

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

and CJ is far from being an "ace" by any measure.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

The succinct way to say what I was trying to say.

You can say Ceej isn’t an ace. But neither are most #1s

by Parker20 on Oct 19, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

very true

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are far fewer aces than number 1s in this league

There may be about 15 bonafide aces who you expect to dominated every year. CJ is not at that leve, but you still expect a steady high performance out of him.

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

so a #2

FYI, i dont think there are more than 5-6 “aces” in baseball

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would probably say 10 or so.

CC, Grienke, Felix, Weaver, Halladay, Lee, Verlander, and I am sure there are at least a couple in the NL I don’t know about cause its the NL.

At least I get to see the Rangers when they play the Twins now.

by TargetField on Oct 19, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

thats a solid list

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lester and possibly Price?

Lincecum, Kershaw, Johnson, Hamels is borderline, Santana could still be an ace if he comes back from injury healthy. Strasburg is on his way,

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

wainwright is on the line

if healthy, he should be up there

lester/lincecum also are on the line

kershaw, hamels, price, santana, strasburg are all in the next tier

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see Kershaw's season this year?

Or are you just waiting to see more out of him?

by Parker20 on Oct 19, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

more than just 1 year

to be an “ace”

even without last year he is still in the second tier for me

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kershaw pitched himself into the top tier this year I believe

Haren would be in that second tier as well I am assuming. So there are 2 tiers of #1s, the aces and the true number 1s, then there are the number 2s who are 1s only because their team has no one else to throw opening day?

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

haren is there also, yes

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

There really isn't a finite definition for "ace".

Some people are much more selective focusing on pure stuff + plus performance while others step back and look more at performance.

by casew on Oct 19, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

We must have one he'll of a rotation for CJ to be our #4

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Oct 19, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh you so crazy.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 19, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yankees

one has to think that the Yankees will be all hot and heavy on Darvish with the mess that they have in their rotation now. Would the Rangers still go after Darvish if they can sign Wilson? Or is it an either or thing?

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2011 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

I think the Rangers make a bid no matter what happens with Wilson

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Yanks will prefer going after Stateside pitchers

They’ve been burned by Japanese pitchers before and know how bad Daisuke has been after his decent 2007

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

so have we

I am wary and would prefer CJ for 100M to Darvish for 100M, but only b/c I have a better idea of what I’m getting

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

The sad thing is that Yu would only see 10 M a year

Do japanese players ever become free agents so they could avoid the posting system?

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe he could post and sign a shorter deal then hit free agency; I’m guessing he has been making decent money over there which is almost equal to what a latin player would make in minors/early years in the majors

Is that crazy?

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the problem is if he insists on a shorter deal

the team won’t post him b/c it can’t get as big of a fee

He should just defect already

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does the posting fee really have impact on a player's contract.

You assume that a player who gets a higher posting fee is going to get a larger contract. But that isn’t so much a relation of the two as it is a product of that player’s ability.

by casew on Oct 19, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe Japanese players are still bound by the rules of free agency for regular players

Unless they negotiate it into their contract they wont become a FA until 6 years of MLB service time

by bigsteve on Oct 19, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

did not know, that sucks for them

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll shed no tears for him

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Cubs get Darvish.

I certainly hope that it isn’t the M’s.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 19, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Cubs sign Darvish

And the Red Sox immediately ask the Cubs for Darvish as compensation for Theo.

by Heebs on Oct 19, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Besides the Rangers, who will be in on Darvish?

NYY
Chi Cubs
???

I can’t imagine the Red Sox being in the running…..would the Nationals make a run for him?

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 19, 2011 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

hmm

Nationals?
HBT mentioned the Blue Jays

by TheHuntforRedOctober on Oct 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

They're a very high profile team in the Asian market, first of all.

Second, what better way to rebuild there rotation once they get out from underneath Z’s contract after this year?

And… Theo. He’s definitely shown a history of trying to be tops in the Asian market. He built the Red Sox in that direction in a hurry.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 19, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

would the Mariners bid?

owned by Nintendo; they have the cash and I’m sure there is some videogame synergy bullshit argument

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

It makes sense to me. I said above that I hope the M's don't get him.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 19, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

i would assume yes

lots of holes though

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt it.

I don’t think they actually do have the cash, and they haven’t been linked to him at all that I’ve read.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 19, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well I don't know if he is an Ichiro level of star over there

And I haven’t read anything that suggests they are interested. And I don’t know how much financial subsidy Nintendo is willing to give, or if the mariners broadcast their games over there and it might be worth something extra to them

they do open the 2012 season in Tokyo though

I just suspect the mariners are trying to ninja this b/c I think the Japanese angle is big for seattle

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

besides

Southpark taught me that the Japanese are sneaky

/racist

"If I had connections and knew I would have to start out doing scenes with dudes, I think I would give porno a serious shot." by River Fenix on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT

by thedudeabides on Oct 19, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...they are part of the "usual suspects" because they are a big market team

and with Theo at the helm, I figured they would make a run for him. However, now that I said that, would Theo be hesitant to try for Darvish given the Matsuzaka issue….

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 19, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

They have a lot of money coming off the books

And what better way for their new GM to make a splash than to go out and sign Darvish and Pujols/Fielder

by bigsteve on Oct 19, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blue Jays

Orioles, supposedly. Nationals.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 19, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's all falling into place now.

Sign CJ and Darvish.

Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11

by boomer1 on Oct 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not so sure he'll make it.

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 19, 2011 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

shocker...

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Explain

"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11

by hornedfrogs45 on Oct 19, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

that mikeE doesnt think darvish will make it/cut it

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

to think he "wont make it"

mainly because he is very, very good

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our current Japanese players can help us!

Oh wait.

espn_durrett Richard Durrett
#Rangers added Mark Lowe and Matt Treanor to roster. Tateyama and Uehara are taken off.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 19, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Fantastic news though.

Neither of those guys should see the mound except in white-flag-mode.

Adding Treanor gives Wash the ability to pinch hit with Yorvit whenever he wants to in the NL parks.

Good move. Plus, Misty May.

by Parker20 on Oct 19, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has O'Day been out with injury?

Or did he just never find his stuff in AAA and they don’t want to test him in the playoffs

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here we go Lowe

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 19, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

good news.

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 19, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 19, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I approve
NewbergReport
by skindoeshoops
Wash tells @benandskin he might switch Cruz/Napoli. I like it: Cruz less likely to be pitched around, Nap more selective if pitched around.

by sprite on Oct 19, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I wish they were changed to

Hamilton, Napoli, Cruz, Beltre, Young.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 19, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Young needs to stay in the 4

I’d put it

Hammy, Young, Cruz, Napoli, Beltre

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 19, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

but they are interchangeable, outside of Hammy in the 3 hole

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 19, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

NEEDS to stay 4?

no thanks

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Oct 19, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Needs to stay in the four for what?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 19, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

With runners on base, he battles and sees a lot of pitches

then you bring up your big power hitters. I like it just the way it is.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 19, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Outside of game 6 he didn't do much in the post season.

Nellie was lucky that Napoli and Beltre were good tablesetters for his late inning home runs.

by dumdum000333 on Oct 19, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you want him as a table-setter, put him higher in the lineup, not cleanup behind your best (arguably) hitter.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 19, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both Cruz and Beltre saw more pitches per PA in the regular season

and Napoli has the highest P/PA of any Ranger in the playoffs. And all three of those guys hit for better power.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 19, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I predict a high OBP for Napoli this series...

and pitchers are going to pound that lower outside corner against Murphy to see if he is going to swing, be patient or if the umpires are going to call the Murphy strike.

by casew on Oct 19, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever happens

I feel confident the Rangers’ front office has done their homework on Darvish.

Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin

by t ball on Oct 19, 2011 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

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