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Friday morning linkaliciousness

There's a lot of stuff out there today worth checking out, so rather than an entire front page full of FanShots, we're going to have a linkaliciousness post.

Incidentally, there's a lot more stuff I like reading after a win than after a loss.

Jeff Sullivan thinks that Elvis Andrus is awesome, and is underappreciated by a lot of baseball fans.

The Hardball Times marvels at how Ian Kinsler has become one of the most disciplined hitters in baseball in 2011.

Koji Uehara, left off the Rangers' postseason roster, has supposedly told people that he wants to return to Baltimore in 2012.  Since he's under contract for 2012, that would require a trade.

Joe Posnanski thinks that people should not lump pre-playoff-expansion performances in with post-playoff-expansion performances when taking about "postseason records," because for most of baseball history there was no "postseason," just the World Series.

Bob Dutton writes that Michael Young was almost traded, along with Hank Blalock and Laynce Nix, to the Royals for Carlos Beltran in the spring of 2003.

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That is not what I want to hear from Koji right now.

"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio

by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2011 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

He's sad and homesick.

He needs to gtfoi. He’s a Texas Ranger now.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 21, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd take back Hunter for Koji

If you have a plan to construct somekind of a crude Twix vagaina, I’m all ears.
- Bob Loblaw

by mtex on Oct 21, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given Morelands struggles I wouldnt mind taking back CD

Have Mitch start next year in AAA since Davis is out of options.

by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's not go down that dumb road again

Logan Morrison NAO!

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree...CD is gone and he doesn't need to be back

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see my Marlon Byrd suggestion?

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want to do the first Epstein trade with the Cubs

also, I think Marlon Byrd might be overvalued right now relative to his likely production.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly,

but a lot of times a new GM coming in means selling off the old GM’s players to bring in ‘fresh air’ or whatever the hell the narrative is that leads MOTHERFUCKING DAN HAREN TO BE TRADED FOR A PACKAGE OF CINNAMON FLAVORED RICE CAKES AND A PILE OF MAGIC BEANS DAMNIT NOW I’M MAD.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m still not sure what exactly Marlon Byrd is worth though. His skills aren’t really ones that age that well.

Also, Tyler Skaggs is really good.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will forever hate him.

Byrd, though, I see your point, and I wouldn’t trade a crazy package for him, but I feel better about having him around to compete for the 3rd OF spot with Martin, Borbon and Gentry than Endy Chavez.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are trading for Byrd though

I wonder why you don’t just go buy someone like Coco Crisp in free agency to be a 4th OF. Or buy someone with a bit more upside like an Adam Loewen or someone on the Rockies.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a fair point.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder

what the Cubs want for Giovanni Soto.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the very least,

maybe Theo can decide if they’re going to be competing or not this year instead of the half-assed attempts they seem to keep making.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they trade away all their half-assed

assets their team would be Starlin Castro.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Brett Jackson

I suppose, though he probably could use another year in AAA.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like the idea of exploring a trade for Byrd.

You might guess that if you look at posts I made near the trade deadline.

But, I still think it’s a good idea. He’s a bridge CF for Leonys, obviously, and I realize there’s a chance he could fall off a cliff at his age, but it’s only a $6.5M bet and Leonys can come up if Byrd’s really that bad. At the end of 2012, the Rangers have draft picks.

I’m assuming Colorado will want more for the player that would fill this role here, and, really, the Rangers don’t want someone with long-term upside anyway. They have that in Leonys.

I think JD and Theo aren’t looking to pull punches in trades. The have their internal sense of the risks, and when they make a trade they’re both willing to live with the downside, if it comes to fruition. The man up.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Byrd has more value and won’t demand a larger return than someone like Charlie Blackmon. Obviously you’re not going to get Fowler or even Wheeler.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not interested in Charlie Blackmon. I don't want upside or

developmental potential. The Rangers have that.

I want someone who can work with Leonys in ST, and who can add additional pop to the lineup without bringing down the defense.

uh oh…. I feel it… I can’t hold back… rosterbation….
Kins
Elvis
Hamilton
Beltre
Napoli
Cruz
Byrd
Young
Moreland

If Byrd has a solid chance of OPS’ing .800, as he did previously with the Rangers, do the Rangers even need a #9?

I get the trend. I see it. It looks horrible. I would not support a trade if scouts who watch him say his skills have declined, but if the Rangers deem otherwise, I am more than happy to see them pick him up.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

=]

Kins
Elvis
Hamilton
Beltre
Napoli
Cruz
Byrd
Young
Pujols/Fielder =]

by Freelancer799 on Oct 21, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still don't understand why the DB's ownership allowed an interim GM...

who they apparently didn’t have much consideration of retaining make that trade. Just stupid.

by casew on Oct 21, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh god please not this now.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think

Davis and Moreland for Koji, failed for failed for failed.

by SanDiegoKev on Oct 21, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean

Davis for Moreland and Koji.

by SanDiegoKev on Oct 21, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he is,

I know where we need to start LSB Drug Testing.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really dislike Koji

He has done nothing but make excuses for his suckiness.

“I have to stay at a hotel, it’s hotter here.” Blah, fucking blah. You are a baseball player, you can play baseball anywhere. The hotel you are staying at is probably nicer than half of our houses. Suck it up, man.

Fuck.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

My blog: That's baseball for you

by iorange555 on Oct 21, 2011 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Perhaps a little introspection would be in order.....

maybe listing reasons why he was left off of the WS roster…..even a “Pros and Cons” list of staying in Texas as opposed to going back to Baltimore…..

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 21, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pros...

1. I can think about going back to Baltimore.

Cons….

1. Everything else.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

My blog: That's baseball for you

by iorange555 on Oct 21, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pros

1. I can play for a winning team….

Cons………………………………………………………………………………………………..

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 21, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Baltimore is going to be awesome next year!

And Tommy Hunter will be pitching in the All-Star game. I thought everyone knew this?

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

My blog: That's baseball for you

by iorange555 on Oct 21, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope that is the case.....

It means that either Boston or NYY will miss the playoffs which would make my heart so happy…..especially if it’s the NYY….

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 21, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rays and Toronto would still be better than Baltimore

There are so many things stacked against that team, and they suck to begin with.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

/channelingme

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Koji

Quit your whining for once. Hell, you’re getting a world series ring and share.

Run if you intend you survive,
For the beast is coming to life.

by AfterSchoolSpecial on Oct 21, 2011 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Jesus that Beltran-Young/Hank deal might have been the most franchise changing deal in Rangers' history

But that’s with the benefit of hindsight.

My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen

by Keynes on Oct 21, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

eesh...

can you imagine playing against Young all those years?

If you have a plan to construct somekind of a crude Twix vagaina, I’m all ears.
- Bob Loblaw

by mtex on Oct 21, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio

by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I can

Imagine all the extra hits the Rangers would have against the Royals.

by SoWasRed on Oct 21, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe we could have traded for Butler since they wouldn't have had any place to put him.

If you have a plan to construct somekind of a crude Twix vagaina, I’m all ears.
- Bob Loblaw

by mtex on Oct 21, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I get Carlos fucking Beltran?

Yes, yes I can.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

e

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Oct 21, 2011 2:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What's amazing is that it probably wouldn't have helped the Rangers all that much to have Beltran.

Maybe they could’ve traded him for pitching prospects in 2004.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

It works out that Beltran's fWAR is pretty close to the combined fWAR of Young/Blalock in '03/04

6.6/6.8 for Beltran for 13.4
2.9/3.1 for Young for 6.0
5.1/4.6 for Blalock for 9.6 (14.6 for them combined, 15.5 if you add Nix in)

My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen

by Keynes on Oct 21, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

um, double check your math

Blalock should be 9.7, for them combined should be 15.7, unless I’m having some huge brain fart. So they were, combined, better than Beltran by 2.3 war over that time.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 21, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

But that is two players to one

There would be another player on the field for Texas besides Beltran, and one would hope he would be above replacement level.

"Nap-O-Li! Nap-O-Li! Nap-O-Li!" - 51,351 fans on 10/01/11

by NorCalRangersFan on Oct 21, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

i was just making sure the math was right. but, if young and blalock are gone, along with nix, who moves in? does ARod stay here at that point? a lot more questions.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 21, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

15.6 rather than 14.6

My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen

by Keynes on Oct 21, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was freaking awesome

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

And, it makes me a little sad. I wish he could've figured it out here.

Still, it worked out really well for all involved in that BMac got to be in an environment that built his confidence while the Rangers really found out a lot about Harrison and Ogando.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like BMac more now than I did when he was a Ranger

-- Micah

"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 21, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anxious to read part 2

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's here!

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-brandon-mccarthy-saga-part-two/

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now I'm sad again...
So what’s next for Brandon McCarthy? … He is going to follow the same off-season plan as last season, except this time he is going to be working on developing a consistent changeup, again looking to Doc for inspiration. This will give him another weapon against left-handed batters, as his FIP was .65 runs higher against lefties due to a .80 HR/9. This dogged determination to be the best pitcher he can be has already served him well, and I am not surprised to see him adding a change-up, as he told me – "I don’t feel like I was a league leader this year… there are always ways for me to improve as a pitcher"

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's all growns up
  • sniff *

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, is it just me

or have the strike zones, and overall umpire performance (outside of the Beltre “fair” ball), been exceptionally good? Here’s to hoping the strike zones continue to be as awesome as they have been in the first two games of the series

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 21, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I have loved the strike zone in this series.

And, yes, the overall umpiring has been exceptional from my perspective as well.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

judging by my eyes

he didnt call the low strike much at all last night. pissed me off a few times (benefitted from it a few times too)

by studcrackers on Oct 21, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw several calls on low strikes made

A couple that were almost too low. That one AB against Punto really stuck out in my mind

by bigsteve on Oct 21, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That might have been the lowest zone I can ever rememeber seeing last night.

It was so low it was too low. You don’t get that, like, ever.

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by philkid3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

For some reason, I didn’t think the pitchers were getting it at first, but the lack of green at the bottom of the strike zone makes me wonder if they just weren’t throwing it down there at the start.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alternatively,

I could have a crappy memory.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

still a third option

both these things are true

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 21, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't remember thinking about the low strike most of the game.

Which usually means it’s getting called okay. I’m not sure I’m prepared going in to a game to notice and rage over too many low strike calls.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now, compare to the Fastmap.

Just illustrates how much lower his zone went than the average umpire.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not too low. Not too low at all. Just right.

Baseball games would be a much more enjoyable length on average with a zone like that.

CJ might be an Ace with a zone like that.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

C.J. needed a zone like that a few times this season.

-- Micah

"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 21, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was fair for both teams, though

And that’s as much as you can ask for from THE HUMAN ELEMENT

Go Rangers

by thermhere on Oct 21, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no gripes against the umpires based solely on getting the Kinsler SB correct last night....

That could have easily been called an out….

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 21, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep

such a huge call, and not an easy one. Glad he got it right

by TRO_GT on Oct 21, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had a dream last night

that Chan Ho Park hit a wall-ball double off of Mike Adams to win the Series.

Bad omen, or too much peanut butter before bedtime?

by Van Down By The River on Oct 21, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

is that what the kids are calling it these days?

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 21, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck Koji

If he wants to go back to Baltimore so bad, he should ask to be released from his contract and not get a ring or a playoff share. Not like he did anything to help the Rangers get here. Quit your whining.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11

by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

He said it was too hot. He was upset he had to live in a hotel.

He’s not comfortable. Blah blah blah. It’s just excuses.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11

by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And I like I get jumped on but Orange is immune.

He said the same thing I did.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11

by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

This is why we love you

"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio

by Gdawg on Oct 21, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 21, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

how have you been jumped on?

If you have a plan to construct somekind of a crude Twix vagaina, I’m all ears.
- Bob Loblaw

by mtex on Oct 21, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

No one has jumped on you.

We’re just discussing it.

It’s okay to discuss things.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't take this the wrong way

I don’t know how the fuck you are, so I’m not targeting you or anyone. I just scrolled down to the bottom.

Also, iorange is dead to me until he finds Dirkatron.

by LiamP on Oct 21, 2011 11:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lack of caps.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is Orange Mudviile Madcows?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11

by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's Liam Poppins

you shut your whore mouth.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure his middle name is Bloody.

But I could be wrong.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you Adam Scott?

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

A batman suit flatters me more than Ben Wyatt.

Dude instantly gained 3 chins after donning that mask.

by LiamP on Oct 21, 2011 12:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think

it will do it to everyone. He was a brave man.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a line from a movie...

Thief, James Caan, early 80’s… lots of good lines.

by Wemedge on Oct 21, 2011 1:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Are you talking about this?

Talking about his rhythm being off: “Not only the weather, but there are other things I must figure out,” Uehara said. “I’m not at home. I’m staying in a hotel. I have to just continue to work hard and hopefully it will change.”

Still not sure how he’s whining but alright.

by LiamP on Oct 21, 2011 11:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's not whining to me

It is making excuses, though. When you get on the mound everything is the same.

It just doesn’t seem like he came over ready to give all his heart, effort and focus to this team. Which makes me angry at him.

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by iorange555 on Oct 21, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

He unfocused himself to the point of pitching to better peripherals except for a freakishly high FB/HR rate

If he put his heart into it, he would have walked 0.0 per 9 rather than .5.

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by Keynes on Oct 21, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has been a disappointment

He is not pitching for us in the World Series. I think when we traded for him, we expected him to play a huge part in our playoff run, and he hasn’t.

His time over has been a disappointment for the fans and him. Now, if this report is true he is already telling people he wants to go back to Baltimore.

Which is really the part that makes me dislike him.

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by iorange555 on Oct 21, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Why say you want to go back to Baltimore right now? This is what pisses me off. Ok you aren’t happy, that’s fine whatever, but damn man.

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by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Igzackly

/emmitt

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by Ryin A on Oct 21, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

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by jam0152 on Oct 21, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, I can get that.

But outside of the weird homers, he was really, really fucking good.

And the odds are the weird homers go away over a larger sample, because they’re weird and he’s really, really fucking good elsewise.

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by Keynes on Oct 21, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect J.D. will look at his potential...

and evaluate if his mistakes could be corrected. Whining, excuses or explanations can be made but the staff will decide to keep him around or not, and I would not be surprised if he is in Texas next year and not living in a hotel.

by Philar on Oct 21, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

ERA doesn't tell the whole story

and neither do peripherals. how exactly was he good? he served up a lot of meatballs that got pummeled.

by sneaky flute on Oct 21, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

.
"I CANNOT (emphasis McCarthy’s) stand the "nerd stat" narrative and the disdain for them, especially considering how valuable they can be… They’re accurate barometers of what you’re actually doing… Those are the numbers that I was chasing after. I wanted lower home runs, I wanted lower walks, more ground balls, and to get to the top of that category the first year after the changes is a nice accomplishment."

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by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disappointed in him and for him.

I don’t think he is a bad person, but he has came out of this looking whiny and maybe a little immature.

by casew on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree on heart and effort, can't comment on focus.

Major upheaval can be jarring for strictly regimented guys. He’s offering excuses but they’re plausible at least.

I’m disappointed in Uehara but I can’t dislike him. I’ll gladly take Strop back at this point though.

by LiamP on Oct 21, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok maybe not whining but making excuses for terrible performance.

If you are going to play a professional sport you should be ready to have your life turned upside down at any moment and it shouldn’t effect (affect?) your performance.

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by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Trading for relievers in the middle of a season is a high risk thing.

Relievers in and of themselves are volatile… they get judged in small samples and have an odd job.

Changing their environment often leads to changes in results.

Every year at the trade deadline they come out with examples of relievers being traded and having bad results with their new club.

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

True. I guess I just have irrational hate for Koji.

I know his periphs and all that, an the out of control HR/FB rate but damn. It’s also the nature of the job of middle relief. If you are great no one notices, if you are awful everyone notices. At least we didn’t trade for Carlos Beltran….

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by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is really saying nothing of any consequence

until you manage to say something of any cosequence, maybe you should lose the victim complex for a stupid argument that you started.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

why do you try so hard to sound smart?

did you get away with overwrought essays in college?

by sneaky flute on Oct 21, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehz

RUN!

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by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Popcorn?

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by The Best Micah on Oct 21, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Oct 21, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why did you get so many offensive rebounds?

Did you play on a team without another big post presence?

by Closure GT on Oct 21, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was a pretty good rebounder when I played

I’d say it was my fundamentals. I’ve a very fundamental guy.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better than Kevin Love?

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Relative to my league

I’d say so. We didn’t have PER back then but I was pretty good. If I could go back in time I bet I could have won state.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh...hi Seth.

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by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of us can use the word consequence

and complex without straining ourselves. Others take the hint once they’ve been banned 4 times. The best part of this whole thing is that you’re not even a successful troll. At least the other guy can have a whole subthread devoted to him.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 22, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even then

Koji wasn’t THAT bad here.

Yeah, he gave up a lot of homers. One in every four flyballs he allowed left the park. That’s an extreme outlier. Nobody else in the majors pitched more than 20 innings with a rate like that (also, LOLJOSHRUPE 36%)

Hell, he bumped his GB rate up to 38 % from 30% in Baltimore. He cut his miniscule walk rate down to virtually nothing. He kept striking fools out like it ain’t no thing. He had a 2.0 xFIP.

If you think that the fact he stayed in a hotel made flyballs leave the park at an unnatural rate on him… I have a rock. This rock keeps away tigers. You don’t see any tigers around here, do you? And was this rock in Ohio the other day? NO. It wasn’t.

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by Keynes on Oct 21, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Koji lost his confidence

according to Ron

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 21, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't disagree with you

Because of lemon drop cake things.

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by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think a 25% HR/FB rate is sustainable,

but I don’t know that it should be regressed to league average in projecting him next year (with RBiA as a home park).

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alternatively,

trade him to San Diego for Cameron Maybin.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really wish

we took a flier on him

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder

if the Twins would do Koji+ for Denard Span

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

Don’t you hate him?

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And everything he stands for

but we only need him to hit well for a year.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

And so, the uneasy truce was made.

To this day, most outside observers still doubt that Denard knew how bad the possible outcomes could be…

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

To me

he’s David DeJesus before he went to Oakland.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That place has to suck your offensive soul out, right?

That’s the best explanation for it?

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeJesus?

also had injury problems. Part of it is park, part of it might just be he broke down.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pre-A's DeJesus was pretty good

And would be a great fit for this team.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's

a really stupid trade. For both teams. It literally makes negative sense.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

But my point is that it would take a lot more than Koji. You’d need to add a top prospect.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

They almost traded Span

for Tyler Clippard and a AA C+ Shortstop.

What are you talking about?

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

That rumor probably wasn't true

And that would have been a massively stupid trade by the Twins.

Span is a lot better player than you or GB are giving him credit for. He was one of the top CF by WAR pre-injury.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't mean they're trading Martin for him.

They’re not trading Martin.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not suggesting they would.

I was affixing relative value to the trade proposition. Koji is no where near what Span is worth. You’d need to add a top prospect to get to span’s value. He’s a very good player.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then your value

is off. You’re either way overvaluing Denard Span (probable) or way undervaluing Leonys Martin.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your suggestion of Koji for Span was way off

Koji/Martin is much, much closer than Koji for Span.

Span is a great fit for this team right now. I’d be targeting him right now if I’m the Rangers, especially if his value is as low as you suggest.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a player

with a pretty extensive injury history, is blocking two prospects (their top prospects), and is starting his arbitration years.

I don’t see where you’re getting this “Denard Span – supervaluable!” idea from.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean,

if you can get the AllStar guy for ~$5M a year, sure, that’s great, but…

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because 3-4 WAR players are very valuable

It all stems from that. I don’t understand why you think 3-4 WAR players would only net Koji in return.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because

I think it’s far from given that he’s even a 3-4 WAR guy. That and his value at the trade deadline was apparently Tyler Clipaprd+

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

4 consecutive years of 2.7 WAR or better

That is enough for me. He’s not a great player but he’s definitely not average. He fits the Rangers very, very well.

And I think the Twins were strongly undervaluing Span. They have a history of that (see: JJ Hardy).

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which means that his value

is a reliever +.

Which is what Koji + is.

Are you angry at the world for not seeing the awesomeness of a guy who has a chronic balance condition whose best years were propped up by some wierd fielding and baserunning numbers?

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not angry at anyone

I just think you guys seriously undervalue Span. Span, pre-injury, is worth much more than Koji. The injury makes this moot. The Twins aren’t going to trade him at a low point in value.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was of course

before he was diagnosed with vestibular neuritis – which means this dude gets dizzy for no reason.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

No shit?

That’s what he ended up having? Well no wonder…

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

persistent too

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is a problem

And a big reason why he’d never be traded. That makes this whole point moot, really.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

why would he never be traded?

he’s blocking two prospects. Why wouldn’t it be more likely that he’d be traded for a useful reliever?

by ab03 on Oct 21, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not really blocking two prospects

That is a bunch of crap. The Twins lack outfield talent. Span could just move over to LF and Revere could play CF. Hicks is a couple years away.

This prospect blocking stuff is non-sense.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that this really affects the argument

but what century are you from that you hyphenated nonsense?

by ab03 on Oct 21, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you get past 150 or so years of age

the early years of your life start falling out of your memory entirely. He could be from the 19th or the 18th, at this point it’s all the same to him.

by Closure GT on Oct 21, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

but

all of that is undercut by the fact that they were actively trying to trade Span

by ab03 on Oct 21, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were trying to trade a lot of guys

Because they were bad and because they want to trim payroll.

That has nothing to do with his injury or his true pre-injury value.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two separate points

you said they won’t trade him but that doesn’t appear to be the case

by ab03 on Oct 21, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

His injury wasn't public at that point.

The circumstances have changed. That example is meaningless in that exchange.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not like players don't get traded

even after losing value. Span will still cost some money.

by ab03 on Oct 21, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright, alright

Yes, he could possibly get traded. I just don’t see it as likely. He is their best outfielder by far when healthy. Trading him for very cheap seems like a really bad move. Why trade a good player for almost nothing.

The Twins have made dumb moves before, JJ Hardy, so it could happen. I

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok,

but your point was lost because you picked a poor prospect.

Even still, I don’t know how other teams view the value of his long term contract. He should be worth the $15M over the next 3 years, but it’s going to reduce the quality of prospects going back.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's also been hurt

and is blocking two guys.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

All of that is fair.

It was a quicky and dirty point to illustrate how ridiculous it is to think that Koji would net a very good player like Span. I didn’t actually mean that the Rangers should trade Martin for Span.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Span

was offered for Clippard and a AA guy that’s fringe. I fail to see how this point got lost in this denard spanity.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

It isn't lost.

I just refuse to believe that that is his true value. It doesn’t make any sense given his production.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK

Even if it’s not his true value…why shouldn’t we try for what the going market rate for him appears to be?

by ftwdrummer on Oct 21, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course you should!

My entire argument is that I think he’s a better play than that. Not that the Twins do. I think Clippard+Espinosa would have been a huge mistake.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

I can accept that he’s better than I thought he was, but let’s not exaggerate.

He’s had one all-star (borderline) year. Every other year was a sub 2.5 WAR year. Starting Calibur? Yes. Top CF? No.

Also, both Bill Smith and the Nats guy pretty much confirmed this. The Nats didn’t want to give up the AA Shortstop.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Span was at 2.2 WAR this year in 70 games

He was a 2.7 WAR player in 2010 and a 4.1 WAR player in 2009. 3.2 WAR player in 2008. So really he’s NEVER had a full-season below 2.7 and likely would have been in the 3’s or 4’s again this year.

He might not be an all-star but he’s close.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Propped up by an outlier 12.2 BB rate

in his first year and a what looks to be an outlier of 9 UZR this year.

I don’t want to have this discussion again, but I will assert that Ben Revere is more his 2010 guy that he is a 2009 guy.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uhh...

No.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Before the trade, Uehara played for 2 pro teams.

Yomiuri Giants for 9+ years and the Orioles for 2+ years. He’s not exactly used to moving around.

by LiamP on Oct 21, 2011 11:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He also won championships with the Yomiuri Giants

It’s not like pitching in the playoffs or pressure is new to him.

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually pitched in several high leverage situations in September.

And did rather well.

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's Batlack up to these days?

If you have a plan to construct somekind of a crude Twix vagaina, I’m all ears.
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by mtex on Oct 21, 2011 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Would Balt even want Koji back?

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by jam0152 on Oct 21, 2011 11:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Jason Cole on Alexi Ogando
The Dominican Republic native isn’t only getting dominant results, but his stuff is also the sharpest of his career.

LINK — It’s free

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks!

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poor Koji...

He lost his manhood on the way to Texas.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 21, 2011 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Seriously,

This reminds me of when Feliz came out and said he wanted to stay in the bullpen because it was working.

I say keep Koji, and just have him be an extremely effective mop up guy.

by Jobu. on Oct 21, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am hoping he just finds his way this offseason.

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 21, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff Passan absolutely rips Albert Pujols a new one in this article.

Stinky Linky Forgive me if it’s already been shared.

Am I the only one that is just now hearing about the diva treatment St. Louis has given Albert, or is this just some outside reporter making up a story and acting like it happens all the time?

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by AceJC on Oct 21, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Just read that

Never knew it either

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 21, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeff Passan is way overboard with that article

Although he is media and they don’t like it when people don’t “follow the rules”. Pretty stupid to rip someone for not wanting to talk at that time.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it was Lebron or ARod people would have killed him.

"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne

by Texas Jihad on Oct 21, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

True.

And we would have laughed.

But let’s not act like the media who does the ripping in these cases don’t have ulterior motive for it.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, I'm taking this with a grain of salt as I've seen plenty of other sports writers write about the Rangers

and were way off base. So that’s why I was asking if this was a dirty little St. Louis secret or well known or just BS.

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by AceJC on Oct 21, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't just Pujols, though.....several of the veterans left immediately

which is pretty sorry….

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 21, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. Berkman, Molina, Pujols.

They all ditched. That’s pretty shitty.

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by AceJC on Oct 21, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gagree

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by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

and that is sad as hell

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by shock00 on Oct 21, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jon Jay was there also.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The two youngest guys

you know, it’s one thing when a guy willingly goes out to answer questions like Holland did last year, but when their teammates leave the young guys out to dry like that, that’s kind of douchy.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not even kind of.

Incredibly.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Albert Pujols for all his awesomeness, has always been kind of a douche.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I realized it.

I think of him more as a machine anyways.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most elite athletes are douches

Being self-center and narcissistic is a pretty common trait among the elite. I don’t know why anyone’s surprised.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not narcissism

it’s a very…Teixeira vibe about him. You know?

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woah. I dunno if I'd got that far.

Moreover, he is actually elite enough to warrant some of it.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's the combination of him and Tony La Russa

it’s like douchebag synergism.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Tony La Russa adds +3 Douchebag points

each year a player plays under him.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Per year

that’s a +30 Douchebag rating for Pujols. Quite a buff.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

He may have even been a below average douchebag to start.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I don’t understand why all players can’t be as selfless and team oriented as our all-time Ranger’s hits leader.

by casew on Oct 21, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hah.

Well played.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice.

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by Rodney on Oct 21, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

In this case, yes

It is my opinion that those traits are part of the reason they rise above their colleagues and compete at an elite level. Greater focus, attention to detail, competitive drive. All important traits if you want to be the best. The key is of course elite athleticism but I think plenty of professional athletes are extremely athletic. I think this is what puts the elite players over the top.

You see the above behavior in the elite all time. Bonds, A-Rod, Pujols, Clemens, Kinsler (j/k), etc.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems douchy to me, too

I thought there was a rule that said they had to make themselves available to the media after games? I guess there isn’t or they’d all know better than to just split.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

would you want to talk to the media after a sh!t loss like that?

I know it is part of their job, but having the game all but won only to have your manager bring Arthur Rhodes in makes their irritation understandable.

by dumdum000333 on Oct 21, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh.

This is where we make fun of you for even suggesting that baseball players who have been doing this for their entire lives and getting paid millions of dollars in large part because of insane media coverage are playing by the same rules as any of us here.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not surprising coming from dumdum

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by Schultzy on Oct 21, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand that they're frustrated

It was probably one of their worst moments as a team. But leaving and sticking your teammates to face the national media…that kind of sucks.

We all do things we don’t want to do.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont fault Molina for leaving

THEY LET GERALD LAIRD PINCH RUN FOR HIM. That had to sting. Probably went home and cried himself to sleep

by BEW on Oct 21, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm feeling like the media is trying really, really hard to find a "bad guy" in this series.

I think casting Pujols as a bad guy has very low potential fro becoming a national story line.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
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by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apologies if this has already been discussed ad nauseum

but will we being seeing a lot of Gentry/Chavez in CF for the next three games? I can’t help but think DHing Josh is probably the best option at this point, even if it means keeping Face in the field.

by sbk00 on Oct 21, 2011 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

I haven't seen it discussed

I was thinking about that. Because there are three right handed pitchers as long as Endy is healthy, he might be starting in Center and Hamilton might be DH’d. In essence that would keep him from having to stretch out while running in the field on defense. So I wouldn’t be surprised if this happened.

by Philar on Oct 21, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't be shocking,

but I don’t think Hamilton’s defense has suffered that much?

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we lose the WS

Koji and Yoshi better not go all ‘Last Samurai’ on us. It’s not like they’ve done much, though.

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 21, 2011 11:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Don't hate on Koji

I’m warning you.

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by TxStCa on Oct 21, 2011 11:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not hating on him.

I’m hoping he doesn’t ask Tom Cruise to stab him

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 21, 2011 11:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing

He’s also Japanese, so he might be a Samurai.

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by Gay For Feliz on Oct 21, 2011 11:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Earned a lack of playing time?

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by Texas Jihad on Oct 21, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uehara

If he wants to go back to a team that has zero chance of winning anything before retirement, then send his ass back. It’s very difficult to cheer for any player who doesn’t want to be a Rangers, even when that player has had a really good season (Young, for example…I cheer for him but I still can’t forget).

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't get the hate for Uehara, here.

Why should players value things similarly as we do? I mean, CJ Wilson has race track proximity and state gun laws on his list of things to consider before signing with a team.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Once again

this is the loudest drowning out the most reasonable. Despite the fact that a lot of LSB is filled with very bright people, there are a lot of GDT-like dumbassery which occurs as we go deeper into the playoffs.

Koji will be fine.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playoffs have little to do with it

At least for me. Uehara was very good for Baltimore last year and had some pretty good moments with Texas after he got here, too. But he’s just a middle reliever and if he’d rather be on a losing team, he can be replaced.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the Rangers trade him back to Bawlmer

he’s gonna have to suck it up and play for a winner

by huebone on Oct 21, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

If this is true

the only thing I hate is the timing. Next Friday would be a fine time to let this be known.

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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

meh

dude asked him a question, he answered it.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looking at that article

there was no question asked. The guy is reporting that Koji is telling people he wants to return.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's the Orioles

beat writer then. I don’t mind it, especially since he’s left off the roster for Mark Lowe, which I still think was premature and dumb.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you don't think

Koji could have waited a few days to start backdooring his way back to the O’s?

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's not like he told the newspaper guy

he told “those close to him”. Which I believe is beatwriter shorthand for “I talked to his agent”

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably true

and that guy probably should have had the common courtesy to hold the note. That no news during the World Series rule keeps getting flimsier and flimsier.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Oct 21, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

she’s their Emily Jones though. So I don’t think we can blame her.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you seen the Orioles Beat Writer?

I might want to go back to that as well.

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by Atticus F on Oct 21, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because he showed up, we thought he'd be awesome, and he's been less than awesome in a short period of time

So therefore he sucks and we hate him, and his hotel must be burned down and we must salt the ground it stands on.

by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that why CJ is back to being a douchebag choker again?

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Can you imagine what things would be like if Ian Kinsler were hitting like Michael Young has been this postseason?

by Adam J. Morris on Oct 21, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man.

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by philkid3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He needs to run out ground balls!

Run them out!

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok,

I’ve sort of been holding this back for a bit, but I can’t any more.

This lineup given the current health status of Josh Hamilton, is retarded. Napoli was the best hitter in baseball in the second half of the season (when healthy) and Cruz being on one of his hot streaks makes him one of the best hitters in baseball. Kinsler has been doing really well, but putting Elvis second in the lineup is ridiculous, ESPECIALLY given the way Washington is using him. Elvis might as well be a fast pitcher at this point.

Hamilton is hurt. Everybody knows he is hurt. There’s no hiding it now. Healthy Hamilton deposits that Arthur Rhodes pitch somewhere around Chicago.

I know that most lineup decisions don’t matter. Swapping Cruz and Napoli, while perhaps getting Cruz an extra pitch to hit or two, isn’t likely to make that much of a difference. But batting your worst hitter 2nd and then turning him into a bunting machine is absurd and it’s costing the Rangers runs.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd at least like to see Josh DH

and give Endy Chavez or Mitch Moreland or Craig Gentry or SOMEONE a chance to get some ABs and get hot. This team could use some legit pinch hitters in an NL park.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Note:

Someone != Esteban German

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was an advocate

for trying Esteban vs. lefties at the start of the playoffs. Start being the key word here.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this point,

he’s basically player off the street.

How can somebody who is such a big proponent of keeping players in their roles and getting everybody playing time to keep them invested in the game continually rely on Esteban German?

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because Mitch Moreland has really regressed

and Torrealba is awful?

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Torrealba is not a great hitter, or even an average hitter,

but at least he’s gotten playing time this year.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

which is why I wanted German to get starts vs. LHP starting at the ALDS. Keep everyone loose.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Optimal lineup v RHPs at the RBiA

1. Kinsler
2. Young
3. Hamilton (he’s not getting moved, so I’d like to sick with scenarios that are at least possible)
4. Napoli
5. Beltre
6. Cruz
7. Moreland (sigh; whatever)
8. Gentry (because I don’t care about modest platoon advantages at this spot in the order and Gentry should be our starting CF from here on out)
9. Elvis

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by JDT217 on Oct 21, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murphy has more than a moderate

platoon advantage vs. Gentry for his career. Play young at 1st and DH Hamilton. You get both Murphy and Gentry into the lineup.

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by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Given how Moreland has been going lately,

I’d rather DH Murphy. Or DH Hamilton and put Murphy in the field.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer the later.

Less wear on Hamilton that way.

by Akalhar on Oct 21, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Holland walking six (even with IBBs) in a start?

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by Aqua on Oct 21, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's the difference between exaggeration

And masturbation? And you can’t say the amount of letters.

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by iorange555 on Oct 21, 2011 12:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I value race tracks and gun laws highly.

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh,

I knew somebody would say it, I should have guessed.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really do though.

I have a 540 HP car, a concealed handgun license and don’t drink alcohol.

If I had talent and good looks I’d be CJ Wilson.

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure this is right.

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by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not at all into Mustangs

I highly doubt that there’s a 540 bhp version out there, though.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

2010 GT500

Supercharged 5.4L V8.

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Solid axle. :(

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus I'd be afraid to turn the wheel in that thing.

You’re going to think I’m trashing your car, but I’m not. I drive a Honda Fit, after all. But why in the world would Ford put an engine like that in a car that’s not fit to take a corner??? Not familiar with Mustangs but thought they might give you an independent rear suspension in a car with that kind of drive train.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

For me... the key is that I only drag race.

And you can still drive it in a corner… you just have to be aware of your car and control your throttle and brakes accordingly.

It’s still a tremendously fun street car to drive. I rarely use the full power anywhere but a drag strip though.

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it's a blast

And starting it up and revving the engine is probably one of the sweetest sounds ever.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC the current Mustangs actually do better (at least on skidpads) than the old IRS Terminators.

I don’t know what it is, but they’ve put a ton of voodoo engineering into making it work.

by Closure GT on Oct 21, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah the SVT guys do really great things.

Here’s a good article

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/preview-concept/4301464

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by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Impressive.

I know a guy with a GT500, but I don’t know if it’s a previous model or not. I’d be interested in taking it for a spin. He’s sort of a dick so I doubt he’d let me. Anyway they mention an M3 and a 911 in that article (talking about the front suspension). There’s just no way the Mustang could handle like those cars with that single axle in the back, but I’d like to know how close it can get.

This is undoubtedly a special car. I don’t understand why Ford wouldn’t offer IRS as an option (a pricey one). I’m sure the custom shops are already doing them. Reduced weight, better cornering.

I’m more of a road race guy, though, so I look at cars much differently than you dragstrip fellers.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, on a track it's holds its own...

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/ford-mustang-boss-302

Not the best link format, but the headline is really the main point.

Rougher road where you’re going to lose contact with one wheel, the M3 probably regains the edge.

by Closure GT on Oct 21, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m not trying to trash the Mustang, but the M3’s not in it’s power class. It has more than 100 more horsepower, so that’s going to cover for a lot of slop in the bends.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Boss 302 is actually just like 30hp higher, looks like. 444 vs 414.

The M3 actually wins in the quarter mile per this one: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/11q1/2012_ford_mustang_boss_302_-road_test

It’s not lugging around nearly as much luxury stuff as an M3, though. It’s kinda a weird target for them.

by Closure GT on Oct 21, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay I was thinking GT500 bhp

That’s makes sense, though…Boss “302”. 30 is a lot, though. The article didn’t mention their times at Laguna Seca, or maybe I missed it.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

My argument with Ford still stands

If you’re building a “serious” car, which they definitely seem to be with the GT500 and the Boss 302, why not give them the best possible suspension? Now with the GT500 a solid rear axle makes sense for drag racing, so I can understand them offering that as standard equipment. But the BOSS is supposed to be a road racer. My assumption is that it beat the M3 at Laguna Seca on that day, but it was probably very close. If the Ford would have had IRS like a road racing car it may have thrashed the M3. I’d love to see an American car do well.

American car companies and their cost cutting. Reliability is up but they feel so cheep and even if you go to the dealership you’ll see that the body panels don’t even fit together right. For a short time I drove a an STS-V and there was a quarter inch gap at the top of the hood and less than half that at the bottom. That’s a $100k car. Awesome car but it will never compete with Mercedes, BMW, or Audi because of that kind of shit. It is short-sighted and it frustrates me. And look at the design of almost all GM cars. Ugly as shit.

American cars are typically cheaper than their foreign counterparts, whether you’re talking about Europe or Japan. In terms of engines and transmissions, the quality gap has been closing for a while, too. But they keep cutting corners in other places which is the reason they’re not gaining ground. Charge a little more and give us a better product to buy. God. Especially GM and their hideous, cheap looking lineup.

Don’t even get me started on Chrysler.

End of rant.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not making a fan post on here about cars

Never again. Only two or three people would contribute.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all actuality I did read it

I have no real opinion on this matter. I’m not a car guy. Just a bad joke guy.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully not very influential

The first article linked here described the solid rear axle as a cost cutting move, though. And it makes sense. It makes the shitty, entry level mustangs much less expensive. But on the performance models Ford has changed so much I can’t understand why they wouldn’t go ahead and at least offer IRS as an option. It would have to be a very expensive option but there are always people who will buy it. Don’t forget that Mustangs were once very popular in Europe, too. Give them a car they’d want to buy and there would be many who’d jump all over it.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is what's weird about it, for sure.

They did just that last generation. At some point it seems like it must cost them more to overengineer the hell out of a live axle to make it competitive than to just roll out something fundamentally better.

by Closure GT on Oct 21, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would do better with modern suspension, though

Well engineered independent suspension has a lot more potential that a single axle.

by Black Francis on Oct 21, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh,

this is funny in the computer sense, also.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That laynce nix mention and that we're playing the Cardinals

Just made me remember, but wasn’t it back in 04 when we played St Loius for the first time where he got hurt trying to catch a fly ball and was never the same after? I seem to remember a lot of people having high hopes for him

Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya

by MayurP on Oct 21, 2011 12:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

He was never the same

because he sucked.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was my thought as well

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 21, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was Barry Bonds

Against Gil Meche though.

by Wemedge on Oct 21, 2011 1:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

so, does anyone remember

this?

I have been to busy with work and family stuff, so I don’t know if anything similar has been done this year. Anyone know if there’s been an updated version, or a new remix or anything?

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 21, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

If Dana Jacobson

were to get ran over by a truck, I believe I’d chuckle. ESPN – if you’re going to hire worthless people, at least make them attractive.

"If the Saints can reach the Superbowl, the Rangers can reach the World Series." - PhilKid
The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Oct 21, 2011 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

One more thing

Im getting sick and tired of all these pundits calling TLR a ‘genius’, for Heavens sake , the guy brought in a pinch runner who looked like he weighed as much as Andrus and Young combined!
What sort of genius comes up with that plan?

Mama says love is all that matters,Beauty should be deeper than the skin
Living for the moment, lips and lashes, Will I ever find my way again
Don't stop, don't stop the dance

by RhodesianRanger on Oct 21, 2011 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

The same one that takes a light's out closer out of the game

in favor of Arthur Rhodes.

"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11

Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.

by Atticus F on Oct 21, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha we would be roasting ron if he did that

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 21, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dirk responds to the first pitch shenanigans

among other things

http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2011/10/21/mlb-world-series-texas-rangers-dirk-nowitzki-first-pitch/

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 21, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, he might make me join the Mavs bandwagon

All the talk about him around here is wooing me.

-- Micah

"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 21, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's the best man crush I've ever had.

He’s always treated me well.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 21, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice!

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm predicting Dirk as the catalyst for our WS triumph

As soon as Morgan announces Dirk, RBIA is going to go nuts. And not stop from there. Arlington is going to be so rocking tomorrow. And that’s going to be extra bigtime juice for the team. I sense major homefield atvantage for the next 3 games.
And it will all bust out of the gates with, " . . Diiiiiiiirrrrkkkk NoooooVIIITTTTskiiiiiiiiii !!!!!!!! . . . "

by Van Down By The River on Oct 21, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that Playoff RBiA has been the best sports setting in D/FW.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Stars Cup run at Reunion was the best.

Reunion got LOUD.

RBiA is very very good though.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 21, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no arguments from me on that one

but since it no longer exists…

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 21, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was at the ALCS last year, and it was crazy

From someone who goes back to the days of aluminum bleacher seats at Arlington Stadium, I could hardly believe I was in Texas. I didn’t know we had it in us to rock a house like that. Awesome!

by Van Down By The River on Oct 21, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that I think they need motivation or anything

But I bet the players will have a little something else to work towards when they see the adoration for Dirk.

by Jobu. on Oct 21, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

His fist bump caused MY to hit a HR to dead center.

He needs to have a Green Mile moment with Josh’s groin

by ab03 on Oct 21, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So ... how would this work?

-- Micah

"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 21, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean

Are they going to bump junk or what?

-- Micah

"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 21, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

How would that even work?

I guess they would kind of…scissor…or something?

Go Rangers

by thermhere on Oct 21, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The things we do for championships.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 21, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

nutsack subbing for SVPelt: "Pedro Feliz"

sigh

I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women. - Schultzy, 10/17/11

by Schoolly_D on Oct 21, 2011 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

what do you guys think of this lineup?

kinsler
beltre
cruz
napoli
young
hamilton
andrus
murphy
gentry

by sneaky flute on Oct 21, 2011 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

You really enjoy stirring things up without a lot of thought, it seems. That's a silly lineup.

Should I have acknowledged this post?

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

how is it a silly lineup?

you have your best hitters batting consecutively

by sneaky flute on Oct 21, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Oct 21, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've got me there, but Beltre's power is better suited at a lower slot.

You don’t want your power hitters to make an easy out (low OBP), but you also don’t want to lose the potential to drive in runs by hitting them high in the order.

Young should be in Andrus’ slot. He doesn’t get on base often enough to hit at the top, and he doesn’t hit with enough power to be a primary driver-in of runs. He’s not an automatic out, though, so he’s useful at the bottom of the lineup.

I love that Andrus can turn a walk or a single into a double at the top of the lineup, but the truth is that the Rangers don’t have a very good #2 hitter in their lineup. Andrus gets that spot just because he has the ability to steal bases and bunt. It’s a poor reason.

Murphy/Gentry looks good, but I’m not at all thrilled about Young being at 1B everyday.

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

In both games so far

when I look at MY at 1B, I see Vlad in the outfield.

by Van Down By The River on Oct 21, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tomorrow's lineup will be better

Kinsler
Andrus
Hamilton
Young
Beltre
Cruz
Napoli
Murphy
Moreland – 1B

Moreland would have been in proper position. No dive necessary.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this lineup

The biggest reason is because it includes mostly awesome players who can hit anywhere in the lineup and look awesome. It always isn’t any better than the current lineup which also looks awesome. Having awesome players is awesome.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's not the most effective lineup

when you have two slumping and one injured hitter batting between kinsler and the rest

by sneaky flute on Oct 21, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lineups rarely matter anyways.

Stacking good hitters and giving them more at bats makes more sense logically but it really barely matters. I don’t think the Rangers score any more runs the last two days with a more optimal lineup.

by Heebs on Oct 21, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA OT:

Beyonce makes fan sing…absolutely horrific…..all of it.

by Pocket Ninja on Oct 21, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Forgot how overmatched Nick Punto was last night.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Oct 21, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

great sandwiches (especially with our new panini press), a succulent filet minon, excellent St Louis style ribs,

fantastic pork chops, and a delicious spicy shrimp pasta dish

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 21, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want a panini press so bad.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Oct 21, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

try Napa Style

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 21, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. I got childcare duty for games 1&2, and in exchange get to go to 4-7

She’s also from St Louis area and got to meet up with her old friends

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 21, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome family :)

My wife loves the Rangers, but I’m certain she wouldn’t go to games without me. She watches them at home without me, but I don’t think she’d fly to STL.

by Jobu. on Oct 21, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

her best friend met her there and they went to the games together

She also knows CJ’s buddies who looked after the girls

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 21, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year they booed Lee and Hamilton during the intros.

This year during the introductions they cheered Hamilton and Cruz .
St Louis is more classy town that the flaming XXXXXXXXX.

Heres the irony they key SF playmakers of last year were Southerners, heck the guy who caused most problems for us was raised in FW.

Mama says love is all that matters,Beauty should be deeper than the skin
Living for the moment, lips and lashes, Will I ever find my way again
Don't stop, don't stop the dance

by RhodesianRanger on Oct 22, 2011 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fangraphs on DAT DOUBLE PLAY COMBO

sLinky.

Pitching may win championships, but dynasties are built up the middle. And the Rangers, with the league’s reigning number-one DP combo (not to mention Josh Hamilton and Mike Napoli) are set up to be very good for a very long time.

Go Rangers

by thermhere on Oct 21, 2011 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't know about that

Hamilton and Nap are free after next year and Ian has, what, 2 years left?

by LiamP on Oct 21, 2011 4:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What is Kinslers current contract?

It feels like he’s been a Ranger for about 12 years.

by Van Down By The River on Oct 21, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was a rookie in 06

-- Micah

"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 21, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

7.2M in 2012 and option in 2013

All Ranger payroll obligations 2011-2016

Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.

by rooster on Oct 21, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as nap produces next year,

 i can’t see a world where the rangers don’t find a way to keep him in Arlington for a few more years

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 21, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do.

and that’s if they feel Jurickson is a potential superstar.

They’ll make some room, and that’s the easiest way to make some.

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!

by vfn on Oct 22, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

what the hell does Jurickson have to do with who our Catcher is?

"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks

"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond

by Eric Prince on Oct 22, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Koji to Colorado for Tim Wheeler or Charlie Blackmon?

lol.. man... dont get too drunk... but dont get not drunk enough that its rape
by I am Neftali Feliz on Jul 29, 2011 6:44 PM CDT

by Travis93 on Oct 21, 2011 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Koji, a guy who has had problems giving up HRs...

To Colorado…

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 21, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

this Bob Costas / Bud Selig interview re: replay is making me rage.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Oct 21, 2011 7:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Heard about the Astros moving to AL West

It appears MLB is paying 50 m to make the move to the AL West.

Do you think we can be playing them as soon as 2012?
Is it common for a baseball schedule to be altered after its published?

Mama says love is all that matters,Beauty should be deeper than the skin
Living for the moment, lips and lashes, Will I ever find my way again
Don't stop, don't stop the dance

by RhodesianRanger on Oct 22, 2011 7:19 AM CDT reply actions  

The Houston Chronicle had an article about it yesterday

that suggested 2012 could be a reality. IIRC there was even a mention that Crane’s group could get a major discount in the purchase price if they agreed to it

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Oct 22, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw on the NWS that there's a 50% chance of t-storms tonight?!?

Noooo! I can’t take any more rainouts!

What’s with record lack of rain for basically a year, then hitting right during Rangers postseason games?

These make good pies.

by Thought_Experiment on Oct 22, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

It is definitely interesting to read something new in reports such as this. Having people write opinions about things, then posting those opinions is a great way to start a popular sports thread and have comments such as these ones.

Halloween World

by joycerenabevels on Oct 22, 2011 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

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