The problem with Josh Hamilton hitting third
It has been exactly one month since Josh Hamilton's last home run. Hamilton homered on September 23, off M's sacrificial lamb Anthony Vasquez, in a 5-3 win against Seattle. He hasn't homered since.
That's not necessarily surprising, given that we've learned that Hamilton has been dealing with either a groin injury or a sports hernia for the past couple of months, with Hamilton himself saying he's at 50%, and reports indicating that he'd be on the disabled list if this were the regular season.
Nevertheless, this is October, and Hamilton is gutting it out. Given that Craig Gentry doesn't hit much, Mitch Moreland stopped hitting around the time of the summer solstice, and Endy Chavez is Endy Chavez, it doesn't make a lot of sense to just bench Hamilton. But you do have to wonder if it makes sense to continue to have him hitting third in the Rangers' lineup.
Hamilton is hitting .245/.259/.340, including 1 for 12 against the Cardinals in the World Series. I'm not normally a fan of juggling lineups because someone is slumping or hot, but we aren't talking about a slump...we're talking about someone who physically isn't right right now. Hamilton has acknowledged he's not healthy, and watching him, he looks like a shell of his normal self at the plate.
This isn't a matter of Hamilton needing to get hot or snap out of a slump. It is a matter of Hamilton not being able to physically perform at the level he has historically, and not being able to get healthy until after the season. Hamilton isn't suddenly going to become 100% again over the next four games.
So, given all that, why isn't Hamilton being moved down in the lineup? Why not drop him down in the order, bump everyone else up, let Nelson Cruz and Mike Napoli, who have been hammering the ball, slide up a spot apiece and get some more at bats?
I don't have an answer. I suspect that Ron Washington would say that it is because Josh Hamilton is the team's #3 hitter, and if he's in the lineup, that's where he's going to hit. Hamilton has spoken before about how he's not comfortable hitting anywhere else in the lineup, and it may be that there's a sense that the damage it would do to Hamilton's "mental state" would be greater than the gain you'd get from re-ordering the lineup. And as we've discussed before, the specific ordering of the lineup doesn't really matter that much.
But it does matter a little. And if Hamilton continues to struggle, and the Rangers lose a close game that ends up being the difference in the series, the decision to keep him parked in the #3 spot may end up getting more closely examined.
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Could not agree more.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
Furthermore,
it makes the decision to turn Elvis into a bunting machine even more ridiculous. Even the tenuous logic that Washington is using to make the decision breaks down if you have an injured Hamilton behind him.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Oct 23, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Ron isn't good at strategy.
So whatever the logical thing to do is, he does the opposite. Nothing new here.
A lot of "old timers" and "lifers" are this way. Not just Ron.
He doesn’t do the opposite of the logical thing, he does the idealogical thing, which sometimes is logical. In this case, I disagree with him, because I think Hamilton should be hitting down in the lineup.
HNNNNNNGGGGG
Yeah, but the point is that he doesn't use logic. That is a big issue.
by dutchstache on Oct 23, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Both your posts are vast oversimplifications
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 23, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, he does use some logic, but not enough.
I don’t think its oversimplifying. He has shown the inability to manage games throughout his years here. He is great in the clubhouse, but the question is which is more important.
So if he's moved out of the 3 hole will he hit that much worse than he already has?
I don’t really see how that’s possible
And if that's the argument
wouldn’t it be a boost for Beltre/Cruz/Napoli if they were moved up ? I would love to see a lineup of Kins/Young/Beltre/Cruz/Naps/Hamilton/Elvis/Murphy/Gentry- with Josh at DH.
by ruben_sierra#21 on Oct 23, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Last night, it was painful to see Josh running the bases
Particularly when he was held at third. The guy is doing his best, but right now, he’s not getting the job done because of his injury. He should be batting sixth or seventh, get some pressure off himself.
This whole situation frutrates the fuck out of me.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Welcome to the wonderful world of being a "players manager" Jihadi...
It’s not all peaches and cream, it has it’s pitfalls as well. Worrying about if Josh is going to be “ok” with playing left field or if he’s going to be “ok” with being moved in the order is one of them. When the majority of your strength as a manager is based on being the clubhouse guy that everyone loves shit like this brings it down a few notches.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Sick of this.
Game 4 lineup: Kinsler, 2b; Andrus, ss; Hamilton, cf; Young, dh; Beltre, 3b; Cruz, rf; Murphy, lf; Napoli, c; Moreland, 1b; Holland, p.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I got a feeling Moreland will do things today
other than suck
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
Me too..and you called his last shot.
I remember I made my own half-ass endorsement but lacked the commitment.
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 23, 2011 3:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
All I can think is maybe Ron is trying to even out the line up
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
I'd kinda prefer Hamilton be on the bench
Kudos to him for gutting it out, but he’s not bringing much to the game. Weird things happen in the playoffs, so perhaps Gentry would create a spark at the bottom of the lineup.

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