World Series Game 4 Pre-Game Discussion
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 23, 2011 3:00 PM CDT
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I'm nervous but excited to see this team bounce back.
Good teams over come bad calls and bad games. I feel good about this team tonight.
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
Long Relief
In the event that we need long relief, considering everyone but Adams and Feliz were used, what will we do? Go with Feldman again?
"It's incredibly hard." - Ronald Washington
Its his day to throw
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Well you hope holland goes 6 maybe 7
If 6 oliver-adams-feliz if 7 adams and feliz
by Steve B on Oct 23, 2011 4:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
An extra reliever would look good right about now
Maybe Matt Treanor needs to come down with a mysterious injury…
You can't replace Treanor with a pitcher.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Let's do this one step at a time
Let’s start by winning tonight
by CrisLander on Oct 23, 2011 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
George Double Ya looks like he wants to waterboard someone.....or a few people.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
I usually don't support waterboarding...
but Ron Kulpa might be an exception.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
by vfn on Oct 23, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He looks like he wants to cry.
Which I can’t blame him, that game made me want to cry, scream and jump off a bridge.
Mitch, show us that guy who hit that towering walkoff
That could do no wrong.
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 23, 2011 3:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Biggest start of Holland's career.
It’s hard to trust him in these moments…but we’ll see. GO RANGERS!!
I'd trust him more than anyone in the pen right now
by dumdum000333 on Oct 23, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
we don't have a choice.
have to trust him.
"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball
by rangerdanger on Oct 23, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
This post made me think the game was starting earlier today.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
a complete game shutout by the Stache would be nice
he hasn’t had one of those in a while
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
We are all counting on YOU.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
I'm still mad about yesterday
Mad at Kulpa. And mad at Napoli,
Ugh.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
Same here
I know we lost by a lot, but that blown call changed everything.
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
I'm mad at Bud Selig...
It’s his fault. And I bet you Kulpa really wishes baseball had replay right now.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Though, who knows...
He’s probably really happy for his Cardinals.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the conspiracy is ridiculous
He blew the call, but that is a problem for all MLB umpires. They are too proud and often refuse to ask for second opinions when they should. There should be an umpire in the booth who watches the game in real time and can go through replay. If the call is something that is obvious within the first viewing of the replay then correct the call.
by dumdum000333 on Oct 23, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Conspiracy?
That’s he is blowing the World Series for the Cardinals? That is ridiculous. But then again, I bet you he wants the Cardinals to win the World Series. Why wouldn’t he? But really, why in the world did MLB even put an admitted Cardinals fan into his first World Series to call games with the Cardinals in it? It seems like MLB is asking for idiots to claim Sternball on them.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I can see why they don't want to use it during the regular season...
where over the course of the season it would probably extensively add to game time. But why can’t it be instituted during the playoffs where they can afford to have an additional umpire with replay equipment communicating to the head umpire throughout the game? It seems so illogical not to considering how badly a mistake is magnified and how significantly it can alter the playoffs considering how a few games there really are in contrast to the regular season.
Why use it in one place but not others?
If you care about getting calls right, you should care every single game. One game in May can be the difference between a team making the playoffs and not. If it is important to you that calls are correct, that mission never takes a game off.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Oh, I would definitely like to see it in the regular season as well.
But right now I would take any technological progress that I can get in baseball
Ticket rapers are starting to panic on Stubhub
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
I just checked that too... funny
we tailgated the game last night by the youth ballpark in parking lot N.. TV, brews & brauts.. great view of the stadium and a lot of fun actually…. and a lot of others doing the same. many offers trying to unload extra tickets as cars drove by or folks walking in… they all wanted WAYY too much, we asked one guy, better to sell the seat of leave unsold and his answer was unsold… He wanted like $500 for Lexis level… in the 3rd freaking inning…
This is not rational thinking.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Ticket scalpers often don't have a good concept of supply and demand
They think just because there is a limited supply they can put any price on their tickets.
by dumdum000333 on Oct 23, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
SRO down to $89
Homerun porch is $125
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
Now I wish I was in Dallas
Those are affordable prices
by dumdum000333 on Oct 23, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
JACKSON STRIKES OUT 9
PUJOLS HITS 2 MORE DINGERS.
YOU CONTINUE TO SUCK.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Oct 23, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pujols can hit dingers all day long
if our defense, the luck dragons, and the umpires don’t decide to screw us over, there shouldn’t be a problem.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
And loses 9-3.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I kind of want to vomit on your chest.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I like this move, actually
NewbergReport Jamey Newberg
Wash alters lineup…but it’s to drop Napoli to 8th, to go R-L-R-L-R (Cruz-Murphy-Napoli-Moreland-Kins) and force TLR’s late-inning hand.
This was one of the reasons I think Hamilton hs been stuck in the 3 hole
all the other quality bats are Righties
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
hopefully, this move will make Wash look like a genius when game four is in the books
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be content if two of the 5 are productive.
Because Beltre and Young will be fine
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 23, 2011 4:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Too bad
We don’t have any RH pinch hitters worth a crap anyway. TLR will just let Rzepcynski pitch to German or Torrealba again if warsh pinch hits. Whoopee.
by ruben_sierra#21 on Oct 23, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling we'll see good Holland
I think he’ll have a special start tonight.
by cashman on Oct 23, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Even if he had the stuff
I don’t think Wash would let him do it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Probably right.
I’m just sending the idea to the cosmos. CGSO! CGSO!
"It's incredibly hard." - Ronald Washington
Yes!! I seem to prefer 2
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Oct 23, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not going to talk about how bad I feel about this game (besides this subject line)
I’m going to be positive. WE WILL WIN! WE’LL WIN THE WHOLE THING!
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
WHY THE FUCK IS AJ P IN THE BOOTH!?!?!?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
This was my question
I just hate FOX so, so much.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Oct 23, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
he wants to remind people how great Pujols was last night 3 hours prior to the 1st pitch
instead of having to tell us during the 630pm pregame show
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
We don't blog about boys here
We blog about men.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Oct 23, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
haha, damn..
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, seriously. Fuck you, MLB.
This is ridiculous.
DanWolken Dan Wolken
Joe Torre on the topic of instant replay in baseball: “I’d say drop it.” Nice progressive thinking there, Joe.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Adding insult to injury there, Joe
No need for the fucking snark on top of the idiocy.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
"Drop it"
Why would this be a story? It’s not like there have been two potentially game-changing wrong calls made in the World Series or anything.
It’s not like the entire world finds out without a doubt that the call had been blown within 20 seconds of said call, but we continue to play the baseball game as if nothing happened…
It's such a condescending way to address the issue.
He could easily have said “It’s something we can look into” after what happened last night. People would accept it and they could come back later and say their whole “we value the human element” bullshit like they always do.
Instead, Joe Torre decides to treat MLB’s fans and writers like fucking children.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
So it is the former of what I asked below...
God. Fuck him.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I obviously hope they go in our favor
But I wouldn’t mind if we get another couple of blatantly blown calls.
I’d like to see the Rangers score 2 runs in the 9th to walk off with a win following a catch that was called a trap, and then a tag out at home where our runner should have been safe.
(Not really, I’d rather earn it, but it’d be bitter-sweet).
Good to see they hold tradition over the integrity of the game
When viewers at home are able to make the correct call, but game officials can not you got a problem. We aren’t asking for it on balls and strikes, just plays on the bases, foul balls, and homers.Heck, not even foul balls really.
by dumdum000333 on Oct 23, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
it's shit like this that really tarnishes the game of baseball.
instant replays and the ’roids
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
ok, well maybe it did
but just not using instant replay in the game of baseball is depressing. other sports out there use it to get the correct call. baseball needs to get with the technology nowadays
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Is he telling someone asking about replay to drop it as to avoid questioning about it?
Or is he saying if it were up to him he’d drop replay altogether?
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course he doesn't care.
He’s used to getting all the calls.
by DrumsInTheDeep on Oct 23, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
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TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
Joe Torre on replay. "Our game doesn’t just stop.’’
Except after every pitch, every time Jeter feels a wet fart approaching, after every half-inning, any time a manager argues anything, and for every pitching change or mound visit.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Oct 23, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, that is really the worst excuse ever
Every pitch leads to a break in the action.
by dumdum000333 on Oct 23, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Good god lol
Baseball stops more than any other sport….
Lord, you could review 3 plays in the time that passes between Beckett’s pitches.
Not to mention that argument is completely nullified by HR review.
I always think of Bedard for slow play
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Oct 23, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
because that 4 hour long, 9 inning yankees- red sox game didnt have any stops in it.
fucker.
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I seriously don't get this as an excuse...
That call last night could have been reversed by an upstairs replay ump in the time it took Wash to finish telling Kulpa congratulations on his Cardinals victory since he shitkicked the call.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly. i feel like some of these calls in baseball would be pretty quick and easy to uphold or reverse.
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
And even if it were a particularly difficult call to make...
why is saving an extra minute or two most important THAT GETTING THE FUCKING CALL RIGHT?
I don’t even buy it. It’s an easy excuse to throw in our faces for when we complain about long Red Sox/Yankees games take. The real true is MLB just refuses to adapt because they think baseball is supposed to be all flowery and human and umps making a mistake here and there was a part of the game from their childhood. It’s not about the good of the game, it’s about the good of the game they watched 50 years ago.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see why it would have to stop. A radio receiver/transmitter could be placed in an ump's ear.
When a play is too close to call, just ask the booth. They relay what they see and 10 seconds later the game goes on. It’s a lot faster than 4 umps huddling on the field.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
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EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
Torre says he’s keeping open mind on expanded replay, but says he remains concerned about delays, flow of game
Seriously, flow of the game? If you’re that concerned about it, start kicking asses on players that step out after every pitch, pitchers that throw single-digit pitchers per inning, etc. Start bitching at the Red Sox and Yankees and stop taking out their failures on the rest of the league. Such a copout bullshit answer.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
*single-digit pitches per minute, I mean.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Do one single test run with it unbeknownst to anyone...
Have an umpire in booth.
>Naps applies the tag. Umpire calls him safe. Wash runs onto the field.
< Umpire sees the replay once, immediately after the play. Relays down to the crew chief that the call was blown
> 1st base umpire sends Wash back to the dugout before he even starts his argument, because they fixed the call.
Of course that's how it would work.
And eventually, it would become more like:
Umpire in booth watching plays.
> Napoli applies the tag. Umpire calls him safe. Wash signals from the dugout that he wants a review.
< Umpire sees the replay once, immediately after the play. Relays down that call was blown.
> Crew chief calls batter out less than a minute after the call was originally made. Wash never leaves the dugout, the confrontation at first is avoided, and NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THE ORIGINAL CALL.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
The flow of the game would be improved if the low strike were consistently called.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
And the lefty zone was rulebook.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Give them fucking iPhones, and it really won't disrupt the flow of the game hardly at all.
Seriously, do people think the umpires would have to have a plasma lugged out onto the field and setup for replay or something?
We have the technology now to basically make that kind of shit painless. PLUS: advertising deals with cell phone companies! Sponsorship money!
by LSJ on Oct 23, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the way, if what Kulpa said after the game is true
And Wash never asked him to ask for help from the home plate ump, then Wash deserves heat for that call as well. Why wouldn’t you at least ask if you were Wash?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Because asking for help would be utterly pointless
It was a judgment call. If Kulpa said Napoli missed the tag, THEN Wash would tell him to ask for help, because he could then use the new information to make a more informed call. No umpire is ever going to ask for help or overturn a judgment call.
That doesn't make sense.
Every call is a judgment call in that situation. What wouldn’t be a judgment call there?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Huh? I didnt see exactly where he is, but he may have been obscured from seeing the tag by Naps
while the homeplate umpire would have a clear view of it. If so its a perfectly reasonable spot for help from the home plate ump.
obviously huh? is meant in response to drizzle
and a judgement call would make me think of things like pass interference in football, it doesn’t really apply to baseball.
Kinda sorta a little bit in strike zone, but thats still defined.
Was this intended for me?
I’m saying Wash should have told the guy to ask for help.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Stuff like the Beltre foul ball isn't a judgment call
The HP umpire didn’t see it. Umpires will ask for help there to see if someone else saw it, and if someone did, would use that information to correct the call.
In this case, Kulpa saw the whole play, and simply blew the call. He obviously doesn’t think he blew the call, but he did. Even if another umpire thinks the call is wrong, they are not going to run over there and say “Hey Ron, I think you blew that one. He was safe,” because then we have two umpires arguing over a call, which makes them all look bad. So the umpires have to let their partners live & die by their calls, unless they can prov
Whether someone was tagged isn't a judgment call. The fact that the guy blew it doesn't make it that way.
Your definition of a judgment call is amorphous. Every call an umpire makes is made in his judgment, whether you’re talking about a foul off Beltre’s foot or a tag made/not made at first base.
And saying you have two umpires arguing doesn’t make sense, either. The home plate umpire’s call prevails, period. Wash should have asked for Kulpa to get help, even if the help just rubber stamps the call.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Are you saying the home plate umpire's call prevails on the Napoli play or Beltre play?
I agree whether someone was tagged isn’t a judgment call. Kulpa didn’t say he wasn’t tagged, he said the tag was applied too late.
And the home plate umpire could have overruled him had he been asked to do so.
Without controversy or argument.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
9.02(a)
Any umpire’s decision which involves judgment, such as, but not limited to,
whether a batted ball is fair or foul, whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, or whether a
runner is safe or out, is final. No player, manager, coach or substitute shall object to
any such judgment decisions.
Yeah, I was just reading that.
9.02© seems to be relevant to that, too, but I’m not sure how they interact. I’m less sure of my opinion than I was before.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
9.02 in full
9.02
Any umpire’s decision which involves judgment, such as, but not limited to, whether a batted ball is fair or foul, whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, or whether a runner is safe or out, is final. No player, manager, coach or substitute shall object to any such judgment decisions.
Rule 9.02(a) Comment: Players leaving their position in the field or on base, or managers or coaches leaving the bench or coaches box, to argue on BALLS AND STRIKES will not be permitted. They should be warned if they start for the plate to protest the call. If they continue, they will be ejected from the game.
If there is reasonable doubt that any umpire’s decision may be in conflict with the rules, the manager may appeal the decision and ask that a correct ruling be made. Such appeal shall be made only to the umpire who made the protested decision.
If a decision is appealed, the umpire making the decision may ask another umpire for information before making a final decision. No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire’s decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
You are right about the HP umpire (umpire-in-chief) makes the decision on any disagreement
Bottom line is, refusing to implement replay is stubborn and stupid.
I have a hard time believing the 1b ump had much conviction in that opinion
since you know, its absurd. He probably knows he didn’t see it well. Not sure if he would have done the right thing and asked for help, but its possible.
The home plate ump could have seen that
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
And yet they don't mind adding 30 seconds to the commercial breaks for the playoffs.
Even the homerun replay they haven now is about the same speed as a manager argument.
But thats still the regular umps going down to view video slowing everything down. If they just got a well trained dedicated umpire/technician with a radio link to the crew chief.. it could be done in 30-60 seconds every time.
And even though that would speed up rather than slow down the game, the MLB could take the chance to speed up other parts of the game too. Enforce the time between pitches rule if the game is moving too slowly, have the umpires go out quicker to break up long mound meetings, try to encourage the managers not to take leisurely strolls to the mound for changes, etc. whatever you can think of.
The MLB has the best game in the world
And they do everything they can to fuck it up.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
I actually wish they would air the World Series on TBS instead of FOX..
anything but FOX
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
Especially considering they keep shoving A.J. Pierzynski down our throats...
This Cowboys game is still on mute because of that bullshit.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
right here with you
it’d be pretty sweet if they could air the World Series on FSSW..
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
so we've played 3 games so far which adds up to 27 innings.
and we had the lead in 1 out of those 27 innings against the Cardinals. that’s fucking trrrrbl
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
It's true that we've been completely outplayed so far.
But 3 games is a very SSS, and we should be able to turn it around pretty easily.
it wouldn't
when push comes to shove, this Rangers team has proven to step up during times of “panic.”
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been making fun of that "panic" schtick for some time, now.
So I don’t know if you should agree with me while using it.
I remember when the lead in the AL West was around 2 games.
and the Rangers really responded well and ended up winning the West by 10 games. gotta keep the faith alive, Rangers got this..
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say we've been completely outplayed
Neither team really outplayed the other in the first two games, and we got outplayed last night. One out of three games isn’t “completely outplayed.”
And just holding the lead doesn't mean that you're completely outplaying the other team, either.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
really would like to win this game today
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
I ain't even hungry, nervous stomach..............however.....
since I have some of that Dickey’s barbecue right here it would be a sin not to try it.
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Dallas....well Carrollton at the moment..
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
I thought I may have been eating lunch next to you in Fort Worth on Thursday at Razzoos
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
yeh that was me! The dude with the rainbow feather boa right??
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Oh... that was you
I thought you were the buff guy with BigGuns wearing a black t-shirt
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
actually the black t-shirt is very me...not really a boa person...now GoET wears one very well..
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
They just built a Dickey's in Kyle. I'm happy. It literally 2 miles from my house.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
it's ok, not bad, it ain't no Sonny Bryan's that's for sure..
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Kyle?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I know a loss is a loss...
…but what do you think is better for the Rangers’ sake, losing in a blowout or by one run?
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
Last night?
I’m pretty sure losing 16-7 wasn’t good for anyone who associates with the Texas Rangers.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially with how Poohole peared us
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
never fun being on the bad side of history.
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That wasn't even a big deal for me...
He hit most of those once the game was already over. Hell, when Gonzalez came in to face four righties, I knew the Rangers had given up on the game.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i would have rather lost like how the cards lost game 2.
at least you can take something away from that game.
i wish last nights game never happened.
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
well with a blowout, hopefully the team can just forget about this one and give it their all tonight
you really think the bullpen will give up 10 ER again? or do you think Pujols will go ham again like he did last night? i still like our chances tonight
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
i like ours too.
but that was just embarrassing last night. there was nothing good about that game. its our players jobs to have short memory when it comes to those things, but as a fan, last night was unbearable. i saw it first hand.
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i wish you didn't have to see it first hand
i’m pretty sure nobody wanted to see it happen at all. but talking about the good that came out of that game.. probably the offense scoring 7 runs is a good sign
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Blowout
Its easier to forget about when everything goes wrong and you can just start over rather than having to think about losing by just one run
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
in a seven game series, i disagree
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess it depends on the situation
but it seemed to work for the Rangers in the Tampa series after Moore dominated them. They came out loose in game 2 and took control; hopefully it works out again tonight.
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
OK, I'm going
Lexus Club 235, Row 10, >$100 below face
I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women. - Schultzy, 10/17/11
come say hi
what’s your first name?
I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women. - Schultzy, 10/17/11
I can't stand up and yell JIHAD, ya know ...
I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women. - Schultzy, 10/17/11
by Schoolly_D on Oct 23, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well you COULD.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
That's true
I don’t know if people would think an Asian is a terrorist or not.
"Life's tough... It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
wow, nice price.
That’s my favorites place to sit. I paid more than that for row 1, 245 for alcs game 2.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by randylsu on Oct 23, 2011 6:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
well i have a horrible feeling about tonights game
Which probably is a good sign because I have been completely wrong about every game this series.
by LBBRangerFan on Oct 23, 2011 5:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So you felt good about Game 1, but we lost
Then, because we had just lost, you felt bad about Game 2, but we won.
Then, because we had just won, you felt bad about Game 3, but we lost…
And it continues
if they will not consider instant replay.....
why not add another ump (just for the playoffs) on the other side of first base …… that could be appealed to for both 1st and home plate plays
Hard8 can still suck a bag of dicks.
This day is slightly marred by the fact that John Rhadigan sucks a flaming bag of shit. - LiamP
the restaurant?
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I assume the LSB user...
(who is now a turncoat Cardinals fan)
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Buddy boy on instant replay
MLB is planning to add “small things” to video review, perhaps limited to fair/foul calls down the lines.
This seems like a thinly veiled attempt to:
a) add nothing to the scope of instant replay as the only fair/foul calls that could be overturned would be home runs. Imagine the insanity of reviewing a play called dead and then overturning it as live. Which leads me to…
b) discredit instant replay by broadening its scope to include the one call that doesn’t work well with review (if it’s foul, it’s dead. If it’s fair, it’s live. How can we possibly change a ruling after runners have stopped running and returned to their places?)
Fair/foul
Give them one base each. I think most teams would be prefer a single to taking a strike and having to re-try.
Which will just get the Purists up in arms
about changing the way the game is played, thus sabotaging instant replay. Science.
Doubt it.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 23, 2011 5:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I seriously doubt it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
If it were a potential clinch game it'd have a good shot
but little chance for this game. Shouldn’t be TOO far behind though.
What up from 39000 feet.....
Going to miss 1st half of game tonight…. First pitch is 7:30 tonight right?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 23, 2011 5:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Thought one game was moved to 730...
Nevermind.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 23, 2011 5:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Join the mile high club Neffy!!!!
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
it has to be with a partner or else it doesn't count.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
SNIFFLE....SNIFFLE
We lost because of the ump!!!!
Look at the 9th inning of game 7 of the WS if you want to see you true umpiring disaster…you guys are crying about spilt milk…Cards win whether by 2 or 9 runs yesterday…so quit whining.
TOO LATE YOU'RE STUPID HAHAHAHA
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 23, 2011 5:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You're a moron.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
thanks
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You have yet to respond to my point from the last time you showed up to spew stupidity.
Nobody here has said “that call cost us the game.” Nobody.
What they have said is that it changed the game negatively with respect to the Rangers and affected everything subsequent to it. Period.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
he isnt here to be reasonable. just trying to ruffle feathers
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep...
I’m reasonably sure the Rangers would have lost last night even without that call. But man, I sure wish we could have had that game without that call to find out. But that’s not something we can discuss, apparently? Whatever. If the Rangers don’t win this World Series those Cardinal pricks have no right to complain about 1985 again.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
What kind of come-on is that?
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 23, 2011 5:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
go do everyone a favor and walk over to east st. louis and get shot
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
cool story, bro
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Go back to VEB, cocksmoke.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
Not sure his cock could produce smoke.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
Who said we lost because of the ump?
Official review in baseball is kind of sort of a major issue that has been discussed repeatedly on this site and will be so until its addressed.
I don’t think one bad manager decision costs many games, but if wash keeps making those they will be discussed too. Its kind of what you do on discussion sites.
This is what fans of teams who win games because of favorable calls do...
They try to make it seem like they’re not embarrassed about it.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I really hope we don't have LSBers going over to VEB and doing this shit
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
by The Best Micah on Oct 23, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
and do what? we dont exactly have a whole lot of trollable material right now
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Wish Albert Pujols death? Was someone doing that last night, thought I read that...NOT COOL!!!!
Ventura::Lewin::Greenberg
I bleed Ranger black and blue.
Leonys Martin is no Judy- JD at Newberg Night.
Meh
True, but some don’t need material to be a jerk.
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
by The Best Micah on Oct 23, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems like we've had more dumbass Cardinal fans sticking their noses over here this year than we did Giants fans last year
And there where quite a few Giants fans poking their noses over here last year.
"Jim Reeves: Baseball doesn't need more replay"
I honestly can’t wait until the baseball old guard is gone.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
terrible headline, but he does make a point
“Baseball just needs for its umpires to get over the mentality of protecting each other, even when another umpire knows the call just made by one of his teammates was wrong. "
They certainly do need to do that until replay is in.
That's the other thing...
the lack of culpability (Kulpability?) for umpires. It’s like MLB thinks as soon as they have accountability for umpires they’ve admitted they’re wrong. But jeez. All anyone wants is the calls to be correct.
by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 23, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB fired three umps after 2009 postseason blown calls
http://tinyurl.com/yezgs3j
Maybe some justice will be done after this one.
by Colonel Travis on Oct 23, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just thinking along these lines.
Can’t wait for these old schools fuckers to retire and/or fucking die.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Oct 23, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, the "die" part was a little harsh.
But I’m in a pissy mood from last night and my stomach hurts from the anxiety of this upcoming game.
I love baseball wayyyy too much.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Oct 23, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
So I watched most of Game 2 shirtless
That means I need to do that again tonight, right?
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
Absolutely.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
Insert obligatory
“pics or it didn’t happen” here.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Oct 23, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's not happening
Esp. since philkid didn’t follow this
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
by The Best Micah on Oct 23, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Please understand
I had to try. It’s my obligation as a scumbag male.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Oct 23, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is "Breast Awareness Month" I hear.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
Breast CANCER Awareness Month
But good try
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
by The Best Micah on Oct 23, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
And nothing kills cancer quite like nudity.
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 23, 2011 6:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, I'm wearing a bra
So, I’m not completely nude. Guess I won’t be killing cancer.
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
by The Best Micah on Oct 23, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you dont want to help cure cancer?
WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU??
- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix
by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 23, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
The only time I go braless is when I sleep
Sorry. It’s just not comfortable.
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
by The Best Micah on Oct 23, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's what you were doing in Game 2
You’ll be killing Cardinal Rallies.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
I am in the exact same outfit I was wearing during Game 2
-- Micah
"I don't want Loblaw buying me a whore. He has terrible taste in women." - Schultzy
by The Best Micah on Oct 23, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't aware that going shirtless was an outfit
More women should sport it.
by dumdum000333 on Oct 23, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I am as well.
What was the saying? “I can’t afford to not be baseball superstitious.”
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
no doubt about it
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Oct 23, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
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