Moreno: Angels payroll to be $130-140 million in 2012
by Adam J. Morris on Oct 29, 2011 5:32 PM CDT
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PrintThe second place Anaheim Angels finished 10 games behind the Texas Rangers in the A.L. West. And by the sound of it, if they are going to make up ground in 2012, it will most likely have to be through internal improvements, rather than through signing big name free agents or trading for expensive veterans.
Arte Moreno has reportedly said that the Angels' payroll for 2012 is expected to be in the $130-140 million range. That's not an insignificant amount, but it is slightly lower than 2011's $132 million payroll.
According to Cot's Baseball Contracts, the Angels already have $102,317,000 in obligations for 2012, which accounts just for Vernon Wells, Jered Weaver, Dan Haren, Bobby Abreu, Torii Hunter, Ervin Santana, Scott Downs, Hisinori Takahashi, Maicer Izturis, and the buyout Scott Kazmir is owed for 2012. Erick Aybar and Howie Kendrick are both in their final seasons of arbitration eligibility, and the two of them will get the payroll to about $115 million.
That leaves $25 million for the remaining fourteen spots on the 25 man roster, plus your various guys on the d.l., etc. Which means that, unless they can figure out a way to dump some money (Abreu and the two lefty relievers would be the contracts they probably would most like to shed), Anaheim isn't going to be in a position to go outside the organization for upgrades that cost significant money.
And for those wondering, I anticipate doing a post looking at the Rangers' payroll situation and contract obligations for 2012 early next week.
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Too bad they aren't still paying GMJ
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 6:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
How would that affect payroll?
Are we dumping a big salary on someone to free up space or are we trading young cheap players for more expensive guys?
What big salaries could we really dump though?
I still don’t see anybody begging us for Feldman. Murphy might get some interest but his salary isn’t exactly killing us by any means, and as much as I’d still like to trade Face and better allocate that money I don’t see that happening anytime soon either.
Any other players who are getting expensive that may be traded?
"I wish I could tell you that TRangers fought the good fight, and the 2 strangers let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but Beaumont is no fairy-tale world." - bking
i like feldman in our 2012 rotation..
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Questions
So you don’t think we’ll sign a CJ or a replacement? Or do you think we’re trading one of Holland, Harrison, Ogando, or Lewis? Or would you put Feldman above one of those four?
I’m fine with Feldman as a 6th/spot starter (as I really expect we won’t go all year with 5 healthy effective pitchers like we did this one), but I’m just not a fan of him going into the year as an expected rotation member.
"I wish I could tell you that TRangers fought the good fight, and the 2 strangers let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but Beaumont is no fairy-tale world." - bking
My opinion
Ogando comes to spring training next year and is still showing signs of being out of gas and hasn’t developed that third pitch he so desperately needs.
Ogando is either sent back to minors to start 2012 or put back in the bullpen and Feldman is in the rotation on Opening Day
Tough to see a spot for him (with healthy Colby/Dutch/Harry/Alexi)
Unless CJ leaves, we don’t sign anyone, and Ogando/Feliz both go back to the bullpen.
If we’re talking real here, I think Neil Ramirez has a chance of starting more games for the Rangers in ’12 than Feldy.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
you know I guess i havent really sat down ant thought about it.... you are right.
and neffy as a possibility.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Torrealba, ODay, Murphy are all non-tender/trade candidates
That is about $6 mill+ right there. Not a ton, but with arb. payroll is north of $95 already
Torrealba is signed for next year already, isn't he?
It’s not like arbitration.
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Only way we trade Torrealba IMO is if we sign Prince
Signing prince would force Napoli to be the primary catcher which means 120-130 games or so.
If that happens I think we roll with a Treanor/Teagarden type as the backup for the other 30-40 games rather than pay 3+ mil for that amount of playing time.
but if we dont sign Prince then I suspect Napoli gets only 100 games at C and then another 40-50 at 1B/DH and so having a quality backup C for 60 games seems the best idea.
I don't really want Napoli to catch 120-130 games
I want him to be in more games than that, but not as the catcher
i think so too... guesses?
maybe philly, colorado, something like that.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt Colorado is a serious option
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
i cant think of anywhere he would be a fit.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
eclou said LA, Philly, Atlanta, and Boston?, and the Marlins were all other choices besides here
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
has eclou ever said who he is and why he thinks he has inside info>
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He's friends with CJ. He's some sort of doctor I think
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
i cant think of anywhere he would be a fit.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Washington or Atlanta....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. I think he winds up with those teams or Texas.
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Florida may be a player too.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Do they have the money?
Or just because they want to make a splash with their new stadium?
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
I wonder, though, with that new stadium
they want to make a splash in FA? I don’t know if CJ necessarily fits that bill….I’m wondering if they would be a player for Fielder?
Same with Chicago and their new GM….signing Pujols would be massive to that fan base…that and getting rid of Zambrano….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Copycat
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
heh...I think we hit "post" at the same time....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you were a minute late :)
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
By George, you're right....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Great minds think alike
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Dang...that's another reason I don't know if CJ would go there....
Didn’t think of that…
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think CJ will want to play there
That stadium is going to be emptier than shit after the first 3 months of the season, and will remain empty for the rest of it’s life. It’s a garish as shit money pit, and I don’t think it’s the kind of atmosphere conducive to winning, especially looking at the fact they may be the 4th best team in the division, even with CJ.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
I had floated Cincinnati as a "mystery team" a couple of weeks ago
but Washington or Atlanta seem a little more logical…
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
In preview of Adam's upcoming post...
Just from my notes, here is the 2012 25 man if you were to just plug people in from this year’s team (minus FA).
C- Napoli, $8.5 Million
1B- Moreland, $420k
2B- Kinsler, $7 Million
3B- Beltre, $15 Million
SS- Andrus, $3 Million (est, arb year 1)
LF- Hamilton, $13.75 Million
CF- Martin, $3 Million (guessing he starts here, Andrus like faith in him)
RF- Cruz, $6.2 Million (est)
DH- Young, $16 Million (could also say it is $13, since we know he defers 3 mill per year)
BN- Murphy, $2.6 Million (est)
BN- Torrealba, $3.25 Million
BN- Blanco, $500k
BN- Gentry, $420k
SP- Lewis, $3.25 Million
SP- Holland, $420k (Unless he gets super 2)
SP- Harrison, $2.8 Million (arb. year 1 est)
SP- Ogando, $420k
SP- Feldman, $6.5 Million
CP- Feliz, $420k
RP- Adams, $4.3 Million (est)
RP- Uehara, $3.8 Million (est)
RP- ODay, $1.4 Million (est)
RP- Lowe, $1.3 Million (est)
RP-
LM-
Total: $105,250,000
Obviously arb. estimates will be off (I took mine from mlb tr), but I think it is clear you have to nontender/trade ODay, Lowe, Murphy, Uehara, Torrealba, and maybe even Young.
But, of course with the bullpen, who knows where people will be. Do you move Ogando back, who do you replace him with in the rotation, how do you reform the bullpen? Lot’s of questions.
I don't think we 'have to' NT or trade any of those
They’re not all bad options, but I don’t think there’s any financial force pushing us to dump them for nothing or Hamburgers.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
With all the added revenue
from the tv contract and WS appearance from this year I think the Rangers should have some financial flexibility. Hopefully anyway.
"I wish I could tell you that TRangers fought the good fight, and the 2 strangers let him be. I wish I could tell you that - but Beaumont is no fairy-tale world." - bking
TV isn't for another couple years, they got some money up front but I was guessing that went to this year and the new big screen
WS provides around $15-17 million extra, but the Rangers may want to spend that in 10 different areas, not just payroll
X
Bizballmaury Extra $ from tv deal + gate revenue = good times RT @jdh90 How much can two straight WS appearances affect the Rangers payroll flexibility?
"We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames." ~ RW
"This game belongs to Elvis Andrus.
Not just the game today, the entire sport of baseball." `GoET; 4/4/11
A lot of balls up in the air on that
But, yeah, we’re not banishing 5-6 positive-fWAR players to save cash right now without better players coming back.
These aren’t the Matt Kata Rangers.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
That's a different statement than saying the team is going to be forced to do salary dumps on some vets.
Personally, I think this team can take the salary structure you put together above, sign one Beltre-light deal (or combo of deals that approxiamate Beltre’s annual salary, if you’re into that), and go into 2012 with some space saved back for deadline aquisitions. Bob and Ray know that keeping a competitor together isn’t cheap.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
They also have financing obligations and plans to get rid of $200 million in debt, thus if they can run large profits to help this cause they might just do that
I am not saying we have too, just guessing that the organization won’t increase payroll enough to keep everybody in place.
Yeah but
Our challenge is going to be to keep this level of talent together and we know that. We’re going to step up and put some money in, ask the fans to support us and help us and see if we can’t deliver something like this every year. We want a great fan experience. We’re committed to sustaining this level of play.
I think rather than have a payroll goal, we have a talent and level of play goal. Money can’t buy success by itself. That’s been proved over and over again. What I would recommend to the owners is support this management, support this talent and if we have to step up from time to time financially, we will. Unlike some other teams, there’s been no money taken out by the owners. We expect to put money in every year for several years until we get to the sustained big-time and also until our TV contract steps up in 2015. We are committed and want to keep this level of play. You can’t ever guarantee it because it’s a competitive world. But our philosophy is to sustain this level of play and we know it’s going to cost more money. We’ll do everything within reason to keep it there and keep this going.
Sure, we may ship an O’Day or a Murphy out if a Yoshi or Gentry presents himself as a superior option that happens to be cheaper and another team offers up a quality piece in return. But they’re not pinching pennies right now, unless Bob was drunk or lying to us.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
how do MLB players get paid? just at the 1st of the year just get a large chunk
deposited to their bank account? monthly? bi weekly? however they want?
ive always been curious.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I read this as
… bi…?
ive always been curious
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:52 PM CDT
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
haha.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Oct 30, 2011 8:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
could you imagine having 200K deposited every 2 weeks into your account?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Holland will not be a super two.
MLB:TR already stated those. He just missed.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Link?
Not arguing but I missed this list
That and no offense to TR but hes not exactly the greatest source of info on a lot of these subjects.
GImme a sec. Just came out this week.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Not TR as in Sullivan.
MLB Trade Rumors
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/near-misses-for-super-two-status.html
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I expect our payroll to be close to $120m next year.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Going to the World Series generates a LOT of revenue.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Uehara is 4M I believe
and it’s being paid by Baltimore.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
They sent 2M.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Eh.
I think he’ll probably still be on the team. Making an off hand comment doesn’t guarantee a trade.
It could happen… but JD won’t trade him without getting return, and would probably try and talk him into staying.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Couple corrections/opinions
Napolis season probably got him closer to 9 mil
Cruz is likely closer to 7 mil
Murphy will likely be roughly 4 million
Uehara has a 4 million dollar option
Lowe probably gets 2-2.5 mil
8.5 for Napoli is probably close enough.
He didn’t have that many PAs and that’s a huge part of what matters in arb.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
What he did with his PAs also matters
he made 5.8 this past year and I could easily see him asking for 10 and the Rangers offering 8 and them meeting in the middle
I'm kinda hoping we do a multi year deal.
And 2012 is a manageable number.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah that would be nice
Maybe get a little discount in 2012 and pay it up in 2014 when we will have some guys come off the books
How does 4/45 sound?
2012: 8 mil
2013 & 14: 12 mil each
2015: 13 mil
I would absolutely do that.
It’s a touch more than I’d like. I’d prefer 4/40… but a touch more than you’d like is pretty much how every contract goes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah
I think he absolutely gets VMart money if hes on the open market and with another year like 2011 that could even go up
VMart averages 12.5 mil so offering him 12 per in FA (that extra mil is the mil you save in 2012) should be appropriate. You may be able to get a bit of a discount down to maybe 11 per but I doubt you’ll get him for 10 per in his FA years when hes going to make close to that in arb this next year
yep
need a bridge to let Salty, TT and Max develop.
Oh wait a minute. Time machine returned me to the wrong year.
The Legend and Deglan?
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond
That's not how arbitration works.
You don’t just throw out two numbers and meet in the middle.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Hot stove this year will be fun
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Oct 29, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish we could go play another regular season with this team again.
Playoff baseball, there’s a reason that’s only one month out of every year.
another question... how are the playoff shares divided up? is it just a pool of money
that the players decide together who gets what? how much is this pool of money?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 29, 2011 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
The amount you get is based on how how well you did.
Last year a full share for losing the World Series was about 250K.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Huh, I missed this until now
Looks like Mike Gonzalez will be pretty cheap next year too.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
So how did the assignment of blame turn out in the morning thread?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
This is my first time on today....
I haven’t seen/read/heard anything about baseball since the end of the 8th inning last night….just couldn’t watch the 9th (except for the PGT….needed that….)
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just sad....last night I was ok, resigned to what had happened...
Now, I feel like I did after we lost Cliff Lee to Philly….after that I was just sad….I got over that, I’ll get over this….
I’m guessing this is how Boston felt in 1986….one out away from winning, gaffes cause a tie, walk-off win…on to game 7…
Game 7, take an early lead and end up losing the game and the series when it was all but won…..
I just hope it doesn’t take almost 20 years to win a WS like it did for Boston….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 29, 2011 9:13 PM CDT reply actions
So......forgot how lame the offseason was.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I like the offseason
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
'round here I meant
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Well, it is the weekend.
Usually dead around here on the weekend.
But yeah, it does tend to be dead in the evenings in the offseason regardless though. Unless there’s news or something.
Which blows.
'round here
Something radiates
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Oct 29, 2011 11:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
nobody makes us wait
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I like that song
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Oct 29, 2011 11:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Just saw a commercial from bigtimebats.com and they said "Rangers are world champions for the first time"
Get your official WS champion Texas Rangers ball.
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5000% increase in productivity..
Our bosses must love the end of baseball season.
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 29, 2011 11:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
what do you do?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
dolphin law enforcement
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Oct 29, 2011 11:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I was just talking about in general
LSB posters
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 30, 2011 1:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Talking about in general
LSB posters
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 30, 2011 2:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I m bored and since you people won't entertain me I have decided to drink
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Oct 29, 2011 11:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vu9tg_46M8&feature=related
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
brandi has a thing for thor
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Oct 29, 2011 11:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If Kendrys Morales comes back 100%
The Angels will be a lot tougher. Too many old OFers though.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
Theyre just.....
…bad. Regardless. Just a really bad team. Horrible, even
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 30, 2011 2:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
x
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 30, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
And who needs this guy?
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Oct 30, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
they are upset that they have been relegated to 2nd-3rd place for the next 3-4 yrs
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
poof
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
heh....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 30, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Pls just go away and look up class and tact in the dictionary.
Don’t understand why grown folks act like this. I would never go a troll your blog after a tough loss, rival or not. have some frigging class.
Sick of this crap.
Beer dont inebriate me these days
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 30, 2011 2:11 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
that just means you need to drink more beer
The snozberries taste like snozberries!!
by Chrom on Oct 30, 2011 2:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Case down and i can still legibly phone -type.
That’s problems, my man.
Thank god for autocorrect though
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 30, 2011 2:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I finally cried. Everything hit me tonight.
I was absolutely inconsolable. It hurt to cry that hard. But it was inevitable. I sobbed like a bitch. Completely broke down. It hurts to feel this strongly for these guys, but it’s totally worth it. I love my 2011 Texas Rangers. Objectively, they brought more joy to my life than sorrow. I’m grateful.
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 30, 2011 3:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
<3 you
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
i screamed for a good 5 minutes into some dirty towels in the hamper in the laundry room
Painful. Hurt a lot. Didn’t make me feel any better, honestly. Fuck me for not being able to deal with this any better.
by dolphinpuncher on Oct 30, 2011 4:59 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I went emo
Watched a lot of soccer, put on my black sweatpants, and stared wistfully into space…
"A guy opens his door and gets shot, you think that of me? No, I am the one who knocks."
I bet we get one of the following free agents:
Fielder
Darvish
CC
CJ
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Oct 30, 2011 8:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Fielder and Darvish
What the Yankees believe is that Sabathia wants to stay. To go where he wanted, the Phillies, Cliff Lee last year took less overall money to sign for five years at $120 million. If you connect those dots, then that is likely where the Yankees will begin the bidding. They seem very leery of going six and definitely going seven years
.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 30, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
and....from the same article...
Nevertheless, Genske and Peters are known as tough negotiators, and they know the Yankees offered Lee seven years at $146 million and probably will seek at least that much.
I think CC’s going to get $25mil/yr…he would melt here in the summer…his defense against the bunt is a joke….let the Yankees have him…..
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 30, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait
One reason you wouldn’t want CC is because he doesn’t defend the bunt well?
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 30, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
He clearly wants Kenny Rogers
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Oct 30, 2011 11:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Heh....it's a tiny, minor reason but, yeah...you saw him against the Rangers here...
They bunted twice and he looked awful…rather humorous….
Look….what I want is someone who will be able to hold up here in the summer months….CC would melt. At $25 mil/year, I would rather spend more and get Darvish and Fielder….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 30, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't get this
CC would melt, but Fielder would be fine?
by Dirk Diggler on Oct 30, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point...
I think Fielder is in better shape and a better athlete….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 30, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
CJ's too old for a long term deal
Between the Yankees in desperate need of a good SP, and Boston losing Lackey for the year, the price just went up on CJ. There payrolls are so huge as is, they can’t afford NOT to get another SP. The Cubs look to make a splash in the market this year, and the Nationals and Marlins might make big bids too.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
I don't think his age will be much of an issue
He’s a year younger than Lee was last year. He got a later start on his major league career due to early injuries, but has been very durable since then. He’s only only had two years as a starter. I think he can reasonably expect at least a 5 year deal.
Not mediocre. Right about average
Three days later and I still hate the Cardinals.
It’s mostly irrational, but I think I will go on hating them until we win a title, or until something equally awful as what happened to us on Thursday happens to their appallingly lucky douchebag team.
For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo
No greater love, no sweeter sin, than red hot brass and ice cold gin.
by LoneStarHoosier on Oct 31, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions
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