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Rangers/Rays ALDS Game 3 pre-game thread

Rangers lineup for Game 3:

Kinsler 2B
Andrus SS
Hamilton LF
Young DH
Beltre 3B
Napoli C
Cruz RF
Moreland 1B
Gentry CF

Colby Lewis is pitching.

The Rays lineup:

Jennings LF
Upton CF
Longoria 3B
Joyce RF
Damon DH
Zobrist 2B
Kotchman 1B
Jaso C
Brignac SS

David Price is pitching for the Rays.

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WHY AM I AT WORK!!!!!!!! i guess i need to buy that mlb thing.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

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by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I picked up the Postseason.TV for MLB 11 on my iPad.

At least I can watch some of the game today and tomorrow from work.

"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan

by BigTex71 on Oct 3, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I was surprised to see moreland in the lineup, but I like it

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Oct 3, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who do you guys want to win you guys?

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Rangers

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by Mike E on Oct 3, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm voting for Chaz Bono

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by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

looks like Wash quickly said forget it on Hamilton playing CF everygame

I like this lineup……lets do this bitch

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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Honestly...

even though he was batting below .200 i am happy that Kelly Shoppach’s name is not on that line up

by Mantis Be Praised on Oct 3, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

same here...great username btw

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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh.

Jaso’s not a huge threat, but if Maddon decided to hit Shoppach against a righty, you should have done cartwheels.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know...

but i now have an irrational fear of shoppach after game 1… plus colby’s affinity for giving up HR’s I wouldnt even want to chance it

by Mantis Be Praised on Oct 3, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So I get off work right at 4.

Hope I don’t get a speeding ticket!

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I did that on Friday and we got our asses kicked.

I’m not going back there for the rest of the postseason.

Plus, I’ve yet to watch a game in this series in the comfy confines of my own home. I’ll let Nadel keep me posted for the first 30 minutes.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have 53% from the Sommer model.

But how that works, I think it is underrating these specific pitcher vs. lineup matchups. I’d agree more with 55, or perhaps even a little higher.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wheres that one guy with all the projections from last year

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by Josh Lile on Oct 3, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

is he referring to xeifrank (or some such)?

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by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, him.

I forgot the username. The guy that said he wrote some intricate program to predict the playoffs.

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by Josh Lile on Oct 3, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope the whole team gets diarrhea

@RaysJoeMaddon Joel Peralta’s wife made some great Dominican food for the spread today. She’s a great cook.

If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.

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by matthewbschultz83 on Oct 3, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

That's the worst

Gotta have some now just so they don’t feel bad even though it’s not what you want and doesn’t taste alll that well in complete honesty.

"Look if you want a journalist hire a UT grad. If you want a doctor you pick a Baylor grad. If you need a vet you see an Aggie grad. And if you need a pizza you call a Tech grad." -BUBacker

by Mike E on Oct 3, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looking at the Rays lineup tonight is making me really happy.

At least compared to the last two nights.

Only three spots in their order improve when a righty is on the mound.

Jaso and Brignac hit RHP better than Shoppach and Rodriguez against righties, but not better than the latter two hit lefties.

Zobrist can switch hit, but he likes the right side of the plate more.

The two spots that really benefit tonight, Maddon is putting back-to-back, which is a delicious spot for Gonzalez or Oliver late in the game.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep. If Colby can minimize the HRs

the Rangers will win this game.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 3, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dislike statements like this.

That’s like saying, “If we give Cliff Lee 4 runs, the Phillies win this game”.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

There are no guarantees.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

In most instances giving cliff lee 4 runs works

last night though… they seemed to just dink and dunk things down the line all night…

Of course the rangers could lose even if colby pitches well, but we maximize our chances if he keeps the ball in the yard.

BTW does anyone know the percentage of runs colby gave up on the Home Run this year

by Mantis Be Praised on Oct 3, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

he gave up 98 ERs and 35 HRs, not sure the exact number of runs that were scored off homers tho

by strobman on Oct 3, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

We broke a streak last night.

First time in 31 games that Tampa Bay scored 5 or more runs and lost this season. So fuck the stats and bring it on!

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

and for the love of god...don't give Longoria anything to hit

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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm already scared and the game hasn't even started.

Longoria vs Colby is a bad matchup.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 3, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Longoria vs ???? is a bad matchup.

Good players are good.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

I mean, unless you want to say Longoria vs. everyone is a bad match-up.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea he is beastly

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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

longoria vs anyone is gonna be a worse matchup than, lets say, quintanilla vs anyone, but i dont see anything on fangraphs that would make him more dangerous than normal. if anything, even though colby has blown for sections of this season, he has still been pretty effective against right handed bats

by adawk91 on Oct 3, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

dammmit now look at what you did

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

he better

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

evrything needs to be away on Longoria

anything towards the middle gets pulled into the seats

by Mantis Be Praised on Oct 3, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I looked up Longoria's career platoon split before doing the preview to account for four lefty starters.

I was happy that it wasn’t that extreme for the series, but it makes me unhappy for tonight.

He’s weaker, but still awesome. He’s no Sean Rodriguez.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would just as soon throw that guy junk

and hope he takes bad swings. Discretion is the better part of valor.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm annoyed that every article I read is simply conceding that Jeremy Hellickson is and has been a better pitcher than Matt Harrison so that matchup favors the Rays...

I think Jeremy Hellickson is pretty awesome, too, you guys. But, in 2011, Matt Harrison has simply been better. Folks need to stop just citing ERA. I thought we were past that. Harrison has been better at everything a pitcher can be other than ERA, GB%, and luck stats.

by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 3, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

People think Hellickson > Harry?

Pfft.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol....its maddening

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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should be listening to The Ticket right now.....

/facepalm/

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 3, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am.

Dont compare CJ to Romo idiots.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I wanted to raise my blood pressure

I’d go smoke a cigereette. Don’t bring that mess up in here.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh....

CJ – 3 homeruns
Romo – 3 interceptions

Coincidence? I think NOT!!!

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 3, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck my life

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they are similar in the reactions they bring out of people.

But Dirk brought out the DERP in people, and he’s as private of a person as you can get.

I like steak.

by hornedfrogs45 on Oct 3, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was at a game earlier this summer

where feldmania outdueled hellickson. i like harry’s chances.

by adawk91 on Oct 3, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well he has been the better pitcher

i don’t care if he has a 4.44 FIP he hasn’t regressed yet…

by Steve B on Oct 3, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think Hellickson has been a better pitcher than Harrison this year?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has been a better pitcher.

Now his FIP says that in the future the bottom is going to fall out and he’ll regress. Who knows if it will be his next game, next season, or he’ll make improvements to lower his FIP

by Tex2044 on Oct 3, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

This might be the better way to state it.

He’s had the better season. The numbers say he won’t be the better pitcher going forward.

by Tex2044 on Oct 3, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

How much of that was Hellickson responsible for?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm having a hard time arguing this point because I'm not positive what I think or how I want to say it.

I do think he had a better season. That includes all of the factors outside of his control(defense, park). I think FIP talks about what we can expect out of them going forward. That says that Harrison is a better pitcher overall as well.

I have a hard time just discounting his season because of who played behind him or where he pitched. I don’t think we actually disagree on who the better pitcher is or who will be better going forward.

by Tex2044 on Oct 3, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIP talks about what we can expect going forward AND attempts to talk about what was actually within a pitcher's control.

Because those things tend to go hand-in-hand.

FIP is also not the best way to talk about what we should expect going forward, because it ignores things like talent changes.

I think you’re rejecting FIP because you’re looking at it the wrong way.

How about looking at tRA, which doesn’t ignore balls in play. Instead, it sorts them by how they were hit.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

people suck at it to the extent that I don’t think many people like tRA at all

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

But even aside from Tango

it’s not a stat that gets quoted on the major websites a lot, right? I think people have tabled it because they realize the classifications are bad.

And the little I’ve tracked what gets classified as a line drive and a fly ball doesn’t really give me a lot of hope. Maybe great classifications aren’t necessary for the stat to be predictive.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it has a very specific purpose.

And I don’t think that purpose is often a part of an article meant for large consumption.

It’s specific purpose for me is a conversation like this.

Also, I believe it was shown to be only slightly less predictive than xFIP. I don’t know about tRAr.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Less predictive and more difficult to understand.

So in general, not more useful than FIP or xFIP.

But that doesn’t mean I think it’s worthless in all situations, especially for pitchers who have reached a large enough sample for most or all of its components to normalize.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, people are not discounting his season.

They are applying appropriate context to it.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. Here is what Fangraphs thinks:
Jeremy Hellickson – In his first full season in the majors, Jeremy had a great year. He has a an unbelievable BABIP (0.223). This value allowed his ERA (2.95) to be about 1.5 less than his FIP (4.44) and xFIP (4.72). He has no history of out performing his BABIP like Cain or Weaver. He may be a decent pitcher, but it is time to SELL HIGH.

Here

by Akalhar on Oct 3, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

But how is he having a better season this season other than ERA?

He’s not striking out more hitters than Matt Harrison, he’s walking way more than Matt Harrison, he gives up more line drives, more fly balls and therefore less ground balls, more of his fly balls leave the park, etc.

I don’t think anyone is saying Jeremy Hellickson is having a poor season or anything, and hell, he easily could win Game 4 and Matt Harrison go into the shitter, but in 2011, I can’t see any reason to think Hellickson has been better than Harrison.

by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 3, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I actually disagree with this a bit

Do you completely discount the idea of pitching to your defense?

Also, while his FB% is up, his IFFB% is really really high. Might be flukey (probably flukey) but if we’re not really talking about going forward, shouldn’t he get credit for that?

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

But get credit for what? His ERA?

That’s what I’m trying to figure out. If we are just going by ERA then he’s had a better season than CC, Dan Haren, Felix Hernandez, etc.

by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 3, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

This is really just an argument without consequence since we aren’t making any decisions going forward about it – just maybe having an argument about credit, which might get used in post-season awards.

But ideally, I would give a pitcher credit for executing his game plan, whatever it was. If he could induce a groundball without fail (not saying anybody can) and he knew he had the best infield defense behind him, I’d still give him credit even though he’s only doing half of the work. This is clearly personal preference. You can think of this as how much credit you would give a QB if he’s throwing to really good WR’s.

What I wouldn’t give a pitcher credit for is if he didn’t execute his game plan and still got outs because his defense over-performed during his starts. Like even though his OF defense sucks and he gives up a ton of FB’s, it somehow doesnt’ bite him in the ass.

Bottom line: I am willing to give a ton of credit to the pitcher.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bottom line: I am willing to give a ton of credit to the pitcher.

I’m cool with that.

But, given the body of work in 2011, I don’t see Jeremy Hellickson as having had a better season than Matt Harrison nor a better bet to win tomorrow simply because of his ERA. (Even if that’s not what you’re saying. That’s just what my original point was.)

by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 3, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I respect that opinion

My opinion between those two pitchers is still an “I don’t know.” I realize that I’m probably giving way too much credence to the unknown as opposed to known but I just get dazzled by ERA-FIP splits that high. I have a hard time attributing it to luck.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

See,

this is why I think wins should be [marginally] counted when looking at the profile of a pitcher. As much, if not more so, than ERA.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 3, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Assuming you aren't sarcastically baiting me

I kind of agree. I mean, I get mad at pitchers for nibbling the strike zone when they have a huge lead and have no problem with them giving up HR’s when their intent is just to pitch aggressively.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure we really disagree about any of this.

I think I’m still learning about some of the numbers and I phrased it poorly.

by Tex2044 on Oct 3, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

More importantly,

how many of those factors are likely to continue?

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 3, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I don't think ERA is a great stat when talking about what you can expect from him in the future

I just don’t like using stats like FIP or xFIP when talking about past performance. I think they are great to use when talking about who is going to be a better pitcher going forward.

I think it’s a losing bet to say Hellickson will be a better pitcher going forward based on the numbers you stated.

by Tex2044 on Oct 3, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not even talking so much about FIP or xFIP...

but it is a clue, in EVERY stat, not even regression predictive ones, that measures how well a pitcher is pitching, Matt Harrison has been better this season. Except, of course, if you want to include ERA. I think ERA is a bad argument, though.

by ghostofErikThompson on Oct 3, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's fine if you have questions about FIP or xFIP or whatever,

but you can’t then turn around and accept ERA on it’s face. There are many, many more problems with ERA than with FIP. Ideally, some combination is used, along with other stats, and that entire picture should be one that shows Harrison to be a better pitcher this year.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 3, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly i think

and I’ve learned a lot in this discussion. I have a hard time trying to accept an argument that says “Well if everything went the way it was supposed to, then this is the kind of pitcher he is” when you have what actually happened available to you. How do you account for a pitchers mental makeup, how he responds when things go wrong? Does he crumble, or does he drive on?

Again, keep in mind I’m still learning about the different stats. I’m asking because i really don’t know. I accept that Harrison is the better pitcher.

by Tex2044 on Oct 3, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Having the better ERA doesn't mean being the better pitcher.

If it’s because you’re actually doing something that makes your ERA that low, sure. If it’s because of luck and ballpark and defense, no. Pitchers can’t control luck and ballpark and defense.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIP doesn't mean what you think it means.

FIP just tries to remove what the pitcher is actually responsible for.

A better ERA means that Hellickson was in a environment that suppressed runs better beyond his control (defense and park) and was luckier.

Not that he pitched better.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other methods of trying to remove what is out of a pitcher's control:

tRA: 4.55 Hellickson, 3.57 Harrison

Wow, that’s not even close. 4.4 to 2.3 WAR.

Hell, even bWAR — whose only attempt to remove things out of a pitcher’s control are giving an average defensive adjustment and park factors — has Hellickson just barely ahead.

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by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIP doesn't meant that either

Pitchers can control BABIP to a certain extent. Trying to figure out how much they control is the issue.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant to say...

Tries to remove what a pitcher ISN’T responsible for to come up with what they are.

And I’m not saying it’s perfect… but that’s its intent.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chances are good that it isn't sustainable

But I couldn’t exactly tell you what’s going on there

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course Hellickson is better

Just look at the K/9 vs Harrison. 5.57 vs 6.11 for Harrison. Er… wait.
Just look at the BB/9 vs Harrison. 3.43 vs 2.76. Er… wait.
Just look at that HR/9 vs Harrison.1.00 vs .63. Er… wait.

Forget what HR/9, BB/9, K/9, FIP, xFIP, and WAR all say. Hellickson is clearly better because of Dat Era.

/sarcasm

by Akalhar on Oct 3, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

What made you think we were past that?

I never got any hint of that.

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by Mike E on Oct 3, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brisbee sounds like frisbee

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/10/3/2466116/tampa-bay-rays-texas-rangers-david-price-alds

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by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't necessarily call the Rangers' success against Price a fluke...

More likely just a great fastball pitcher meeting a great fastball hitting offense. It also doesn’t mean that Price can’t completely shut down the Rangers. Sure the data is somewhat SSS, but that doesn’t mean the data we have so far is completely irrelivant.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 3, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see 100 comments on the MY thread.

Do I already know what happened before I go in there?

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

You already know what happened

I really wanted him, once upon a time…
by Adam J. Morris on Aug 15, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

by benjihana on Oct 3, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on....jump on in....

You know you want to…

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 3, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I typed something out in response to JW

then thought better of it and restrained myself.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 3, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teach us your wise ways, master

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's cool.

I just became legally entitled to all of Josey’s property because he didn’t say I wasn’t.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 3, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Enjoy that shopping cart and refrigerator box "condiminium"

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

he thinks we hate him

no one here hates him……he’s just not our favorite player.

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Young's my favorite player.

That doesn’t mean I think he pouted and put himself before the team twice in his time with the Rangers. The first I can understand, because the Rangers hadn’t been good in years. You know what, WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS UP WHEN THERE’S A PLAYOFF GAME STARTING IN A FEW HOURS?

I like steak.

by hornedfrogs45 on Oct 3, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually wouldn't mind talking about the Young situation now that we have some hindsight

because I don’t think any of the “major viewpoints” accurately describe what happened.

But at this point I I think everybody is exhausted certainly nobody would want to talk about it now.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone playing on the Rangers is my favorite player :)

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

"But Michael Young is my favorite TEEEEEEEEAM!"

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good lord. Bob needs to get back to BaD Radio asap...

Dan and Donavan are effing brutal. Not to mention Rhads.

" Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless "

by Hamboner on Oct 3, 2011 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

should be soon

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

DEREK HOLLAND IS UNRELIABLE!!!!!

ONE THING GOES WRONG AND HE CRUMBLES!!!!

It’s almost like they haven’t watched him pitch in the 2nd half of the season……

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Oct 3, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dan is the reason I never listen to BaD radio.

"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan

by BigTex71 on Oct 3, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn!

I bought a Kinsler shirt at the game Saturday with the intention of wearing it under my work shirt today and totally forgot…

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

If we lose

it’s all your fault.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 3, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pissed.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

its ok i forgot to set my DVR on friday and we lost......I remembered this morning

we should be good

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's ok.

Just find something else to offset your mistake. The quicker you do it, the better.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 3, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go home and change

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 3, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will

but the game will have been on for an hour. Sorry, you guys.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

HEY ITS WYO!

Didn’t notice… how’s it going bub?

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty good

I can’t overstate how great it is to not work. The sabbatical will likely end too soon but it’s been nice.

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 3, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's good that you are enjoying your unemployment

For the time I was unemployed (or under-employed), I didn’t enjoy it at all. But you are older so maybe that’s what maturity brings.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sort of related,

I’m loving ‘paternity’ leave, especially how it matches up with these playoff games.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 3, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paternity leave is a big reason I am looking forward to a kid

My firm apparently has great paternity leave (and it’s real – I know people who have taken it and haven’t gotten fired)

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should have taken it with my latest.

But I didn’t. Because I’m an idiot.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 3, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

How much time do you get?

We started getting 10 days a few years ago.

by Tex2044 on Oct 3, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we technically get 6 weeks

but I know people who have taken 4, no issue. One person is taking 4 and then working Fridays at home.

by ab03 on Oct 3, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like doing research a lot,

and I’m able to do some reading at home, but especially after getting out of the first very stressful window, these past ~10 days have been some of my favorite ever. The nights suck, but getting to spend this much time with just my wife and son is something that I’ll always look back fondly upon [and probably never get again].

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Oct 3, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

How old is he?

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've tried to enjoy it

Camping, fishing, rock climbing, working out, some golf, plenty of relaxing. Drives one friend nuts since he thinks I should be “using” my time like starting projects around the house. Screw that. Those types of things are escape from actual work but get in the way when you’re doing jack shit.

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 3, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

my roommate/homeowner just mentioned that he wants to redo his fence

I got really excited, I used to build fences during my summers in school and really loved it

by kevinkinsler on Oct 3, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

It really is nice. And doing more cooking. If fact, I’m off to the store to get stuff for court bullion so I can make and eat shrimp rolls during the game.

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 3, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pop into that post

Leave your comments, cleanse yourself, take a dump all over it, have an enema if that’s what it takes, just don’t bring that shit here.

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 3, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Perfect reply fail to get me started

Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.

by WyoRanger on Oct 3, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's okay, this is just good general advice anyway

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm ready for some baseball

I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)

by Gay For Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 2:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I just spent 20 minutes

studying the box scores on Reference from the May 30-June 1 series. I would love the result of that Colby/Price start, but I don’t think my stomach could stand the drama. What a game. That was one of maybe 4 I missed all year. Had a work function. Other interesting thing is that in the Holland start in that series, a one out double by Hamilton in the first inning took our Win Expectancy up to 68%. That seems odd in a scoreless game.

Jack Daddy

by Jack Daddy on Oct 3, 2011 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm taking a Rangers hat to wear when I'm back stage.

But I’m worried that’s a little too douchey.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot thats what you guys call it when you are not working.

My wife worked at the Disney store for a year and they called it the same thing. On the floor onstage, off the floor backstage.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the store, too?

Okay, that kind of weirds me out.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, all the parks and resorts employees are cast.

Because the idea is it’s supposed to be a show.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went to week of a development program at DW a couple years ago when i started my job

they got into a bunch of the Disney philosophy and how they create value. Got to do some really cool stuff while we were there

by kevinkinsler on Oct 3, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

She found it a little odd but they were very serious about it. If you forgot your name tag you were considered out of costume.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that makes sense to me.

Just not calling them cast as much.

Oh well.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what are you doing now?

Still at Haunted Mansion?

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm already in "it's too close to GDT time to do any work" mode

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's gonna be tough.

Hopefully a lot less miserable than yesterday.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Oct 3, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good news, you guys.

My manager just approved my last minute vacation request for a half day off tomorrow!

This is the best news EVER!!!

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

heh congrats....i'll be throwing shit at you from my work

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sucks, man.

I still can’t believe they scheduled an elimination game at 1:00 pm on a Tuesday.

Ridiculous!!!

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

word.....oh well, just means that i won't get anything done.

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eff the Yankees!

"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan

by BigTex71 on Oct 3, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

I fully intend to greet anyone who even thinks of crossing my office doorway tomorrow with the most “GO DIRECTLY TO HELL” stare I can manage once the game starts.

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Impossible

I absolutely do not possess the will power to avoid the internet, the radio, my phone, my Rangers fan friends, or television for 4+ hours.

It’s GDT and Gameday for this guy tomorrow.

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was going to be my plan, as well.

I can’t stand the idea that the game is happening and I have no idea what’s going on.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way in the world i could do that either

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't even make it an hour during Friday's game

Phone buzzed in my pocket, I knew it was my friend in Houston texting me the score, and I still couldn’t stop myself from reading it.

There’s just no way I’d make it through four hours with a potential elimination game. Absolutely no way.

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i get off work at 5 and i still couldn't do it

only media blackout for like 1.5 hrs and still no way.

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm just gonna put up a sign that says "fuck you the rangers are on"

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I laughed

Seriously, though, you should totally do that.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

put a midget on top of the corner of my cubicle owling while holding the sign

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even better.

How much do sign holding midgets go for these days?

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh about 35,000

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Winner!

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification

Haven’t seen it. Don’t get many Rangers commercials up here and haven’t gone online to find them.

by Heebs on Oct 3, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was funny the 1st time but we've seen it a billion times now

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

just gonna leave this here

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 3, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

He's assaulting my eyeballs with his grotesqueness

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

when i think of arkansas football fans i think of guys exactly like that.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arkansas.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 3, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I laughed

"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH

by DonDrapersOPS on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

and green

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

however, tidentexas and I saw the hottest girl ever friday night at the Arkansas watch party friday night... she was

so hot. i mean soooooo hot.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

that chick was crazy hot

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 3, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know the drill, comrades

Pics, or it didn’t happen.

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

it happened.. we were all witnesses.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea WTF....pics dammit

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

words and pics cant describe her ass/legs/breast combo

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i guess pics would.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pics would do a pretty fucking awesome job.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 3, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

KOK will attest to said female.

as will futurepants. yes, that futurepants.

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 3, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt know what to do with that.

"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011

"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011

by I am Neftali Feliz on Oct 3, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, fucking Arkansas

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck the Rays and their Sam's Club Field.

Let’s beat some ass.

What you guys think?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981
"Holy God, I want to make out with that dong." - GhostofErikThompson (in response to a Nellie Cruz homer) 6/9/11

by TxStCa on Oct 3, 2011 2:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I've given it some thought

and after several seconds of consideration, I believe I have to concur.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

We just learned of a meeting to be held from 3:30 until 5.

Hate. Rage. Desolation. Fire. Mounds Candy bars. Murder face.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Quick!

Develop unrelenting diarrhea.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody bring this man a cactus!

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I laughed.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Oct 3, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have someone call your mobile as soon as meeting starts...

slip out and say it’s an emergency.

"It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy." - Nolan Ryan

by BigTex71 on Oct 3, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way this is real, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUMhskwjCmM

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Oct 3, 2011 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Before I click ... sfw?

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 3, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

No fucking way.

You can’t hit a ball on exactly the same trajectory that many times in a row without fail. Absolutely fake.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Oct 3, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

That’s as fake as possible. Cool concept, and I’ll give him credit for keeping a seemingly perfect beat with his swings.

The probability of being able to do that more than once in a row is unbelievable.

by Jobu. on Oct 3, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

As much as I want that to be real,

there is no fucking way.

Honey Badger don't give a shit!

by ILikePizza on Oct 3, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Rangers told me to share this picture on Facebook...

Look carefully. Nelson Cruz apparently doesn’t touch the ground when he walks.

"It’s all the years you spend waiting for [that one] night that makes baseball great." - Joe P.

by e2drummer on Oct 3, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

This needs the floating unicorns from Charlie and the Candy Mountain 'shopped in

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josh "Shooter" Hamilton approves of this suggestion

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a serious difference in pants length

between Ian and Josh. Nelson too for that matter.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by Texfan1996 on Oct 3, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea where you were sitting ...

-- Micah

"I’ve seen a lot of dicks, and no one has proved to me that this particular myth is not 100% accurate. " - Bob Loblaw

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 3, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats the point!

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 3, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boo

-- Micah

"I’ve seen a lot of dicks, and no one has proved to me that this particular myth is not 100% accurate. " - Bob Loblaw

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 3, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm searching

Might go blind

-- Micah

"I’ve seen a lot of dicks, and no one has proved to me that this particular myth is not 100% accurate. " - Bob Loblaw

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 3, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give up

-- Micah

"I’ve seen a lot of dicks, and no one has proved to me that this particular myth is not 100% accurate. " - Bob Loblaw

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 3, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

upper deck, above the ESPN deportes sign

- Rangers finish 85-77 - Josey Wales
- I picture GoET with a reptilian dong anyway - RIver Fenix

by Mr. Abe Froman on Oct 3, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

FP does not look pleased.

-- Micah

"I’ve seen a lot of dicks, and no one has proved to me that this particular myth is not 100% accurate. " - Bob Loblaw

Baseball Is My Boyfriend
Unabashedly Me

by The Best Micah on Oct 3, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would do unspeakable things

to Tiffany Simons.
/droolslober

"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH

by DonDrapersOPS on Oct 3, 2011 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

NOICE

Any children caught doing the Wave will be sold to the circus.- Chuck Morgan
I've decided that the Angels are really zombies. You shoot them, club them, hammer them, decapitate them, and they just keep shambling on after you.- iblum

by WildcatPhoenix on Oct 3, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I likee

"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH

by DonDrapersOPS on Oct 3, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec kind sir

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Oct 3, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just had a 4:00 class cancelled!!

Heck yes!!!

I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)

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