Derek Holland, Catcher Splits & Pitch Selection
As the 2011 Texas Rangers regular season progressed, one of the story lines that was a common point of discussion was the difference in results for Derek Holland when Mike Napoli was his catcher instead of Yorvit Torrealba. From the table below you can see significant differences in ERA, OPS, BABIP, BB/9 and HR/9
| IP | ERA | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS | BABIP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Torrealba | 100.0 | 5.04 | .281 | .351 | .448 | .800 | .327 | 7.74 | 3.51 | 1.26 |
| Napoli | 77.2 | 2.67 | .223 | .283 | .328 | .610 | .269 | 7.88 | 2.67 | 0.81 |
The difficult part is attributing the "why" to those results. How much of that is an actual difference in Napoli versus Torrealba and how much of that is just Napoli being fortunate to catch Holland more often on the days he was "Good Holland" combined with some BABIP luck? One data point we can review to see a difference between the two catchers is pitch selection.
In Napoli's starts Holland threw more fastballs, twice as many curveballs and only a fourth of as many change ups. Using Fangraph's pitch type values they have his fastball his only above average pitch at 0.30 runs above average per 100 pitches (RAA/C) but show his change up as easily his worst pitch at -1.53 RAA/C.
| Pitch | Napoli | Torrealba | RAA/C |
|---|---|---|---|
| Four Seam Fastball |
71.11% | 63.38% | 0.30 |
| Slider | 10.07% | 11.45% | -0.39 |
| Curveball | 14.57% | 8.66% | -0.84 |
| Change Up | 4.25% | 16.02% | -1.53 |
The data pulled from PitchFX in the table below supports those values by showing that Holland's change up was put in play far more often than his other pitches and that when put in play the slugging percentage for balls put in play (SLG In Play) was higher than all of his other pitches. In short, opposing batters were able to hit his change up often and hard. His curveball wasn't a particularly strong pitch, but batters rarely swung at the pitch allowing for the highest percentage of called strikes and a better pitch to change the batter's perspective than his easy to hit change up.
| Season Total | Selection | Ball | Strike | Swing | Whiff | Called | Foul | In Play | SLG In Play | Pct of K | Pct of BB | Pct of HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Four Seam | 66.34% | 35.22% | 64.78% | 44.22% | 7.50% | 20.56% | 18.62% | 18.10% | .442 | 57.76% | 86.15% | 36.36% |
| Slider | 11.07% | 38.70% | 61.30% | 52.26% | 18.64% | 9.04% | 14.41% | 19.21% | .559 | 26.71% | 6.15% | 18.18% |
| Curveball | 10.70% | 40.35% | 59.65% | 37.13% | 4.68% | 22.51% | 13.74% | 18.71% | .585 | 3.73% | 0.00% | 18.18% |
| Change Up | 11.89% | 32.11% | 67.89% | 48.95% | 9.74% | 18.95% | 15.00% | 24.21% | .630 | 11.80% | 7.69% | 27.27% |
| Total | 100.00% | 35.78% | 64.22% | 44.92% | 8.70% | 19.30% | 17.20% | 19.02% | 0.498 | 100.00% | 100.00% | 100.00% |
When you break down the pitch data by catcher you see that Holland's fastball was thrown for strikes more often when Napoli was the catcher by a small margin, but the SLG in Play was dramatically lower at .384 compared to .500 when Torrealba caught. This suggests that Holland's fastball command was better both in throwing strikes and importantly, throwing quality strikes. Now... how much you can actually attribute Holland's better command of his fastball to Napoli's presence falls into that "hard to know" category. It's possible that the way Napoli calls a game may make Derek more comfortable and it's also possible that Napoli was lucky to get Holland on days his head was right.
| Napoli | Selection | Ball | Strike | Swing | Whiff | Called | Foul | In Play | SLG In Play | Pct of K | Pct of BB | Pct of HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Four Seam | 71.11% | 33.14% | 66.86% | 45.32% | 7.85% | 21.55% | 18.38% | 19.09% | 0.354 | 58.82% | 100.00% | 42.86% |
| Slider | 10.07% | 44.63% | 55.37% | 51.24% | 23.14% | 4.13% | 12.40% | 15.70% | 0.650 | 29.41% | 0.00% | 14.29% |
| Curveball | 14.57% | 41.71% | 58.29% | 36.00% | 5.14% | 22.29% | 13.14% | 17.71% | 0.613 | 4.41% | 0.00% | 42.86% |
| Change Up | 4.25% | 35.29% | 64.71% | 43.14% | 11.76% | 21.57% | 19.61% | 11.76% | 0.500 | 7.35% | 0.00% | 0.00% |
| Total | 100.00% | 35.64% | 64.36% | 44.46% | 9.16% | 19.90% | 17.07% | 18.23% | 0.427 | 100.00% | 100.00% | 100.00% |
| Torrealba | Selection | Ball | Strike | Swing | Whiff | Called | Foul | In Play | SLG In Play | Pct of K | Pct of BB | Pct of HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Four Seam | 63.38% | 37.08% | 62.92% | 43.73% | 7.96% | 19.19% | 19.10% | 16.67% | 0.500 | 60.47% | 78.95% | 35.71% |
| Slider | 11.45% | 34.72% | 65.28% | 54.40% | 16.58% | 10.88% | 16.58% | 21.24% | 0.488 | 20.93% | 10.53% | 14.29% |
| Curveball | 8.66% | 41.10% | 58.90% | 36.99% | 4.11% | 21.92% | 13.70% | 19.18% | 0.607 | 3.49% | 0.00% | 7.14% |
| Change Up | 16.02% | 31.85% | 68.15% | 49.26% | 10.74% | 18.89% | 14.44% | 24.07% | 0.769 | 15.12% | 10.53% | 42.86% |
| Total | 100.00% | 36.44% | 63.56% | 45.10% | 9.08% | 18.46% | 17.51% | 18.52% | 0.564 | 100.00% | 100.00% | 100.00% |
So now that we've looked at the aggregate data for both Holland's season and then split by catcher it's important to look at Holland on a game by game basis as well. The chart below shows the pitch selection by game, the game score below the date and shaded to indicate who was catching on that day.

When you look at the individual game scores you can see that Holland had some of best games with Torrealba as his catcher and some of worst games with Napoli as his catcher. Ultimately a pitcher must execute and is the person most responsible for what pitches he throws and how well he throws them. There is no magical advantage that Holland will always pitch well with Napoli or poorly with Torrealba. Also, to caveat an earlier point about Holland's fastball being his best pitch, the games he threw it close to 80% of the time were some of his worst games. Days when he didn't have command and had to throw more fastballs because he was behind in the count and tried to force strikes.
However... I do think that a catcher does have some impact, especially for a young pitcher who hasn't established who they are on the mound at the major league level. I believe that Napoli helped Holland be "Good Holland" more often by playing to his strengths in calling his best pitch more and almost never calling his worst pitch. I also think it's possible that Derek simply communicated better and felt more comfortable with Napoli behind the plate. And while it is ultimately up to the pitcher to execute, I think it is possible that Napoli helped create the best environment to achieve success.
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Good post Match.
Lots of great info and if nothing else you have demonstrated the endless amount of statistics that are available in baseball.
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The curves were the most noticeable to me
That pitch helped him alot and probably helped him get in more favorable counts and therefore making it tougher and tougher for batters to really load up on the fastball. That fastball of his is great when its not the only pitch the batter has seen.
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When I was doing the research for this...
The curveball stuff didn’t shock me because Holland mentioned in some post game interviews that Napoli made him throw his curve more.
How ineffective his change up was… and that Torrealba and Teagarden called it all the freaking time was interesting to learn though. I had no idea on that and I really enjoy it when I find something out that I didn’t know and actually think has meaning.
Also… I kept thinking about LSJ complaining in GDTs about Holland’s “shit curve”. Which isn’t exactly wrong… it’s not a great pitch for him… but it’s WAY better than his change up and like you mentioned, helps set up his fastball.
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His curve seemed to improve vastly over the course of the season
And he did throw it a lot more in the second half it appears, which would seem to support that theory.
Considering how many more of them Napoli called, I don’t think it’s too far-fetched to think he could be credited with the development of that pitch this year.
Pure eyeball, but...
I remember Torrealba having more problems blocking breaking balls in the dirt. Naps seemed to have better hands and more mobility. Perhaps this led to Torrealba’s reticence in calling for curves.
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Napoli vs Torrealba
I think over a 162 game season, it should balance out on who catches the good vs off days. Given what we know happened with Harrison and the rest of the pitchers in Game 3 of the World Series (the lone game Torrealba caught) it’s quite clear, I much rather have Napoli catching and send Torrealba packing. I not sure what Yorvit does to affect how the pitchers pitch, but the stats show that Torrealba can’t be trusted with the Rangers pitchers. I would rather have Napoli and Teagarden than Yorvit.
Do the stats really show that he can't be trusted behind the plate?
And do they also show that he is so bad behind the plate, that it completely negates the positives from his bat?
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My impression from just watching the games Torreabla catches is that he calls for fewer breaking balls
I’ve especially noticed it when the relievers are in the game. I don’t know if the overall numbers bear that out though…
I dont really know how you can blame Game 3 on the catchers given how atrocious our defense was and the umpiring which led to the meltdown
Look at Game 7 when Napoli was catching Harrison. He got the first two guys out then shit himself. Is that Napoli’s fault? Or is it just possible we had a young pitcher who got caught up in the moment each time and couldn’t fight through it mentally
Excellent work matchstick!
I was curious if you could change the axis on that last graph so it is plotted as game score vs pitch percentage, with distinct lines for each pitch.
It'll have to wait till tonight.
No access to the graphs at work.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
So is Torrealba calling for the changeup bad because Holland's changeup isn't good...
…or is Holland’s changeup good because Torrealba didn’t call for it/catch it effectively?
by Prashanth Francis on Nov 15, 2011 11:46 AM CST reply actions
OT
You’re Ghettobear, right?
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by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 11:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He is.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Thanks
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by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 11:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure what you're asking...
Are you saying that perhaps the change up itself isn’t a bad pitch for Holland… but Torrealba’s (and Teagarden’s for that matter) abuse made the overall results considerably worse?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That and/or YORVIT's pitch sequencing with the change did Holland no favors.
Either way, I’m sure YORVIT is to blame. That fucker.
by LiamP on Nov 15, 2011 11:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Basically.
I’m pointing out that since Napoli called for the changeup so infrequently, it becomes more difficult to parse out what the cause and what the effect is with the Holland-Yorvit-Changeup issue. There’s more data that probably answers the question in a way that lines up with your conclusion, but I’m too lazy to go look it up.
by Prashanth Francis on Nov 15, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
This is basically your first post Match (you would have done the community projections anyway).
Well done!
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by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 11:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Are the Royals ready to contend?
Roy Oswalt’s agent Bob Garber is expected to meet with the Royals today or tomorrow in Milwaukee, tweets ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. Garber’s agency also represents C.J. Wilson.
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the Royals are primed to make a big jump
Signing and experienced SP like CJ would be a good move by them
MLB Trade
said Royals interest in Oswalt was minimal. Sounds like they are just doing their due diligence.
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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 15, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
no mention of the stache?
I want real analysis
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
All those stats he spent lots of time looking up mean nothing
If he doesn’t mention the ’stache
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by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 12:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good information!
I don’t know if the pitches could be worked in for righty-lefty splits and which catcher called them. Looking at the late August numbers along with September, it looks like Napoli did go with what was working for Holland. As a right handed batter I hated the inside fastball. I am reaching to hit and outside fastball and here comes the inside fastball, I hated it! And while the slider was probably his second best pitch, some days when he was pitching well, it was his least used pitch.
Typically lefties like using change ups or sliders as their off speed pitches against right handers. And curve balls are often extremely difficult for lefties to hit against lefties. But just looking game-by-game, sometimes during his best games the change up appears to have been there.
The other situation is that catchers may call games from their perspective as batters. They may hate pitchers with good change ups, and call for that offspeed pitch because they hate having to face those in certain situations. But if Holland doesn’t have control of the changeup, or is not deceptive enough in his delivery, that pitch may not work.
In some situations, catchers have almost no control on calling the game. Some managers call the game from the dugout. I don’t think that is the way the Rangers do it. I love stats and graphs like this…most informative!
Good article
The cause might also be the theory that Holland “figured it out” after the ASB, where Napoli was his primary catcher.
Very good info
Has anyone paid attention, does Holland wave off less calls than other pitchers? If so, the theory that Napoli calls for more of Holland’s betch more is exactly the reason.
Excellent information
Jobu brings up a good point.
I’m also curious to know at what count were the change & curve called. It could be that Napoli mixed things up more than Torrealba.
I haven't pulled that yet...
But… when Napoli caught you can see that none of Holland’s walks were on anything but a fastball. So if he did throw a breaking ball or offspeed in a three ball count with Napoli, it was either swung at or called a strike.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That's a pretty incredible statistic.
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Could it just be 1st half Holland v 2nd half?
Holland improved as the season progressed and Naps caught more then.
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by WyoRanger on Nov 15, 2011 6:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Indeed it could.
But I think the differences in pitch selection between the two catchers has some significance too.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's a chicken egg situation of course
Guy pitches with a new catcher towards the end of the season so is it the pitcher or catcher? He did throw less CHs but one could say it’s altering by Mike as opposed to Naps. Beats me. But the CU data is interesting too since there were a lot of curves towards the end of the season that were impressive.
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by WyoRanger on Nov 15, 2011 9:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You couple that with Holland specifically mentioning in interviews that Napoli made him throw his curve more.
You also see that the start of him throwing his curve much more came with Napoli behind the plate in my May 30th start in the first part of the season.
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Can't believe I missed this
awesome stuff.
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