This Day in LSB History

by Adam J. Morris on Nov 15, 2011 12:00 PM CST

ARLINGTON TX - OCTOBER 22: (FILE PHOTO) Neftali Feliz #30 of the Texas Rangers throws a pitch against the New York Yankees in the ninth inning of Game Six of the ALCS during the 2010 MLB Playoffs at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington on October 22 2010 in Arlington Texas. The Baseball Writers' Association of America announced November 15 2010 that Feliz won the 2010 American League Rookie of the Year award. (Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images)

One year ago today, Neftali Feliz was named the A.L. Rookie of the Year.

And there was much rejoicing on LSB.

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Wonderful, wonderful day

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by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 12:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions

Heebs comment (5th one down) gives me a sad

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by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 12:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions

Why?

Valencia had a really good half year in 2010 and played an important role in getting the Twins to the playoffs. Why does his horrible 2011 matter?

Someone had a discussion a few weeks ago about why people seem to put a heavy weight on playing most or all of the season for ROY candidates. They asked why ROY consideration has to be limited to the best rookies who played the majority of the year. Why isn’t it just the best rookies or the most impressive rookies?

In thinking about that for a little while I decided I’d rather give it to the player who was most impressive. I’d consider giving AL ROY honors to Brett Lawrie this year. He only played ~40 games but he was incredibly impressive in that limited time. You could have also given it to Strasburg in 2010. I think Buster Posey was a defensible choice but Strasburg was far and away the most impressive rookie in the NL. I also think this would help limit the Angel Berroa/Chris Coghlan type winners who win because their aren’t many other good choices.

by Heebs on Nov 15, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions

I think he meant the one that said we'd win the world series in 2011.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Nov 15, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not sure.

My WS comment was the 4th one down. And my Valencia comment was the 5th thread down.

The WS comment gives me a sad too.

by Heebs on Nov 15, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions

It was the WS comment

I’m sorry that I can’t count… That gives me a sad too.

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by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 2:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Awww...

Lisa W

believe me i know english im just lazy
by The Texas Rangers numba 1 fan on Nov 11, 2011 10:50 AM EST

by Suicide Prince on Nov 15, 2011 12:19 PM CST reply actions

Glad I got my contribution in there.

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Nov 15, 2011 12:44 PM CST reply actions

Heh

Me too

I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)

by Gay For Feliz on Nov 15, 2011 12:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I love that it has my Wendy's chili story.

It fascinates me how the first couple of seconds you can see it go spurt spurt against the back wall and then the pressure equalizes or something and it comes in smoother. - Closure GT on Aug 22, 2011

by crazy86er on Nov 15, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions

CJ finishes 6th in Cy Young voting.

Verlander was unanimous.

Weaver 2nd, Shields 3rd, CC 4th, Valverde 5th(!!!), CJ 6th, Haren 7th.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Nov 15, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions

Valverde got a 2nd place vote

Which shows how uninformed/biased these BBWAA voters are. People are still in love with that save statistic. I think they should lump holds/saves into one category and see what that does to people’s arguments.

BTW – Congrats to CJ. He was around where he should be in this voting and he had a hell of a season. Don’t go to Anaheim.

by Heebs on Nov 15, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions

I thought he should have finished higher than James Shields personally.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Nov 15, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

I also thought CC should have been the clear #2 on this list.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Nov 15, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

This one is all about park factors and opponent too

I think they both have a fair case for #2 depending on how you feel about park factors/opponent. I think Jered Weaver had a defensible case. Huge advantage in baserunners and runs allowed. They both had stellar seasons and deserve to be at the top of the list.

by Heebs on Nov 15, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions

I don't see the argument for Shields over Wilson

If you favor results, which I think end of the year awards should, I don’t see how you favor CJ. You have to strongly believe in park factors to give CJ the edge. Shields has all the results driven categories locked down and he has a huge advantage in innings pitched. The IP alone are reason for me to give the edge to Shields.

by Heebs on Nov 15, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions