Greg Maddux reportedly joining the Rangers
by Adam J. Morris on Nov 29, 2011 4:05 PM CST
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PrintAccording to a multitude of reports that are out there on the interwebs, future Hall of Fame pitcher Greg Maddux is leaving the Chicago Cubs, where he was a special assistant to the general manager, in order to join the Texas Rangers organization in an unspecified capacity.
Maddux, of course, is the brother of Rangers' pitching coach Mike Maddux.
Greg Maddux, in his role with the Cubs, apparently worked with young pitchers during spring training and traveled around doing stuff during the season. It sounds like he'll be doing something similar with Texas.
For the benefit of those of you who have forgotten, or who became baseball fans sometime after Doug Melvin was fired as the Rangers' g.m., Greg Maddux was an incredible, incredible pitcher, arguably one of the ten best of all time. He won four straight Cy Young Awards, and also finished second once, third twice, fourth once and fifth once. He's 29th all time in bWAR, sixth among pitchers, and third among live-ball era pitchers (behind Roger Clemens and Tom Seaver).
Maddux was really, really good.
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"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Screw free agents
mangement should invest our available money into something that will make Greg 15 years younger.
I bet him and Ryan could still give you some innings.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
The guy with arguably the best control/command of all time
Couldn’t come at a better time to mentor Feliz, Perez, and others who have great stuff but command issues.
No doubt
I was looking back at his 97-98 numbers and thought – how the hell did he not win the CYA? Forget about Pedro Martinez in 97 and he was actually 4th in 98. The Braves had 3 pitchers in the top 5 for CYA in 98. Damn.
Needs to sit down with those guys and go to B-R.com and he points to his stats and says, “Look at this shit. I did that. Now you do it” but in a better way.
by Colonel Travis on Nov 29, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
The Phillies had 3 pitchers in the top 5 for the Cy Young award this year too.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Interesting
Was so pissed off after the WS I never bothered to look at any award voting.
by Colonel Travis on Nov 29, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
I thought Smoltz was originally a Tiger?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
He was but apparently never played for them.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
well my point was
they did not go out and throw money at aces.
by RQ on Nov 29, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, kinda.
His $28 million contract in 1993 was more than the total payroll of 11 teams that year.
by Colonel Travis on Nov 29, 2011 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
ninJDa
sent brother Mike into an “interview” with the Cubs and now brother Greg is coming to work for the Rangers.
easy with the Sandusky and Fine references...
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Maddux was a stud.
I remember tuning into a Sunday night game where he tossed a 1 hit shutout that took about 1 hour and 47 minutes. Greatness!!!
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Nov 29, 2011 4:18 PM CST reply actions
I've always said you can't have enough Madduxes.
Seriously, though, I can just imagine Mike pointing to his brother and saying to our young pitchers, “See that guy? he won four Cy Youngs. Do what he does.”
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby
by CrustytheCowboy on Nov 29, 2011 4:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
This means he can just give everyone the ability to throw and locate a 2 seamer, right?
by LiamP on Nov 29, 2011 4:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
Neftali will start throwing 80-pitch shutouts next year.
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He's going to teach it to Holland.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
oh, this would be good
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
What? How to properly grow a mustache?
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
eh?!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm no 'stache expert, but Greg looks like originated the Dutchstache!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
God I wish.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Serious question...
Matt Garza had a pretty significant leap forward this year in his pitching.
Part of that was the Cubs changing his pitch selection and making him throw more sliders and breaking pitches across the board.
I wonder if Maddux had anything to do with that. It’s possible he didn’t… he wasn’t the pitching coach per se… but I do wonder.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Negative Nigel Poppins pees on our heads, part 2
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by Brian Thomas on Nov 29, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
Maddox
this makes me pretty damned happy.
I soloed in the Mile High Club!
Pedro's 1999
23-4, 2.07 ERA in 213.1 IP
13.20 K/9, 1.56 BB/9, 0.38 HR/9
oh my
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
How about this?
Greg Maddux issued 299 unintentional walks in his 11 seasons with the Braves. Good.Lord.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 29, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
It's like that half season we had with Cliff
but add 10.5 years, subtract the flannel shirts, and add 90’s haircuts
>Want
"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"
by Maximilian on Nov 29, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Kerry Wood struck out 12.5 per 9 as a rookie.
Second to Randy Johnson in 2001 and Pedro’s 1999 season.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 29, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
This never gets old. Ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDgnfm3NOVY
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 29, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Where could I find Feliz MLB debut
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Nov 29, 2011 5:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
if only he hadn't gotten hurt
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
that pitch to Bagwell in the 4th
wow.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
That slider or whatever on strikeout 19.
Filthy.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
In Fenway. Against DHs. In one of the most extreme offensive seasons ever.
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dayumm
can he bequeath that season upon Feliz next year?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
Neffy is doing that regardless of Maddux
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Nov 29, 2011 5:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Care to take a guess as to how many people Greg Maddux walked as a Atlanta Brave?
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 29, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
DDDDDDDDAAAAAMMMNNNNNNNNNN
thats pure sex
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Gay for Maddux
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Nov 29, 2011 5:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know Wins and Losses don't tell you anything for a starter
But 19-2…NINETEEN AND MOTHER FUCKING TWO. Jesus that looks sexy.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 29, 2011 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
One of these days I will grace the front page again.
One of these days…..
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 4:29 PM CST reply actions
Think he means he got a fanshot of it up a few minutes before AJM posted this
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
Like.
A lot.
"Ok, post your favorite moment of the Tom Hicks era
Mine is today when he sold the team." - t ball
It's really hard not to.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
What? He says they already GOT one!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
OT: CJ trying to pull another Wells on LAA
@SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Latest word is cj wilson asked #LAAngels for $100M. played at fountain valley hs, santa ana jc & loyola. #hometowndiscount
heh....thats hilarious
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Hometown discount.
hahahaha
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
I want CJ to demand 7y/$140
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Nov 29, 2011 6:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just hope that's prohibitively high.
Please, CJ, just sign with any team other than LAA.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Nov 29, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
Wait till you see how he helps Napoli call a game....
….nobody plays mind games with batters the way Greg Maddux does. To date, the best news of the off-season.
I thought the best news was being assured that Feliz would be a SP next season
this is the coolest and most unexpected news, certainly
We may differ, but I'm perfectly happy to keep him as closer.
But if he does become a starter, which seems apparent, nothing like spending your first spring training as such learning from the genius.
by Nathaniel Bump on Nov 29, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
We need Greg to grow his stache back so they can be called......
THE SUPER MADDOX BROS!!!!!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 5:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Well for sure not Pujols whose numbers show an aging pattern of someone a couple of years
older than his 31 (32 in January).
by Nathaniel Bump on Nov 29, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
meh
I’ll take a trade for Alonso or Votto instead
Believe the Reds want someone good they can stick in the rotation, not a minor league package.
You’d probably have to be ready to part with Holland.
I got a broken brain
The doctor’s saying that I’m overpaid
maybe Harrison
he didn’t have the swings in performance that Holland did.
Could be that teams prefer him over Holland.
Maybe.
by elvis1isking on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Would you consider letting Feliz go?
I’m trying to figure out if I’d be ok with that.
For Alonso? (They're not trading Votto)
No.
I got a broken brain
The doctor’s saying that I’m overpaid
Holland
Tha bait
Ninja’d
Happens every time.
I’m definitely serious.
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Nov 30, 2011 2:53 AM CST up reply actions
HoF
CHConfidential CHConfidential
Mark Teixeira’s .243 BABIP in 2011 was the lowest among qualifying first basemen. #ThinkBaseball
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
This post has merit, no?
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
That's future HOF Mark Teixeira to you.
and me…and the rest of us here…as I’ve been told.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Nov 29, 2011 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Dat shift.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I do not think there is a way for this to be a bad thing
Unless Greg, like, gets addicted to weird drugs mid-season, or something.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
I'm still okay with that.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Depends on the drug
I mean, I could see LSD helping, maybe peyote… but bath salts? Krokodil? Nah, that doesn’t help anyone.
My mind just says throw ball throw hard and strike. - Marteen
Greg Maddux
My all time favorite non-Rangers player. Dorky, out of shape looking guy who couldn’t touch 90 but still extremey dominant.
1997 – 19 wins/20 walks. That is insane.
this isnt right
when he came up he was 93-95 if i remember right. and when he was at the height of his powers, he was around 88. its not like he couldnt touch 90, he just chose not to
I don't think he ever got in the 93-95 area.
at least not in his prime.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
My favorite player period
Northern Virginia's all time world champion Rangers fan of all time and all of Northern Virginia, and the rest of Virginia too. Mayor of Greatestfanville, Virginia.
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Nov 29, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
He was maddening
As I watched him continue to expand the strike zone more outside by a half inch an inning id just get more and more pissed.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Nov 29, 2011 9:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He saw Human Element and decided it was a competitive inefficiency.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
I'll take as many Madduxes as we can get
Greg Maddux, more than any pitcher I ever saw, was a guy where my first thought is: “How are they not hitting this guy?” Then you watch the slow mo of the movement he was getting on his fastball, and you figure it out. Fastaball was pedestrian velocity, but he could tail it in or out on any corner he wanted, and his CU was awesome, and he just painted the corners, nothing over the heart of the plate.
It din’t hurt that, because he was so good, the umps often looked like a Maddux family member, calling anything near the plate a strike. But all the Brave guys got that back in the 90s.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
That rotation was pretty damn good.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Can we have two pitching coaches?
:)
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Nov 29, 2011 5:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
So now we have a real TORP!
…oh wait
by texasrangerfan on Nov 29, 2011 6:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
and, per Newberg
the Rangers will play two spring training games in Vegas next year, the hometown of the Maddux clan. Man, those guys are just calling the shots now, aren’t they?
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Next thing we know
Team mandate that Holland, Harrison, Ogando, and Feliz average less than 90 mph on their fastball next year.
I have been fantasizing about this moment like Longhorn fantasizes about his first kiss with an actual breathing person
And unlike longhorn, it came true. Fuck yes!
One of the smartest baseball minds EVAH. I am irrationally excited.
Northern Virginia's all time world champion Rangers fan of all time and all of Northern Virginia, and the rest of Virginia too. Mayor of Greatestfanville, Virginia.
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Nov 29, 2011 6:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
He did intentionally walk Barry more than any other pitcher.
That’s smart.
Of course, Barry hit more HRs off him than any other pitcher.
Que sera, sera.
Okay, we got Nolan and now Greg Maddux
so now if we’ll just hire Pedro, we’re golden.
by Van Down By The River on Nov 29, 2011 7:04 PM CST reply actions
Petite?
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Nov 29, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Send him down to the minors to help out with the LA kids.
They’ll be Cy Young ready by the time Ryan and the Maddux brothers get their hands on them.
/throbbing
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I only got to see Greg Maddux pitch live once.
Coincidentally it was also the only time I saw Roger Clemens pitch.
Clemens vs Maddux, Cubs @ Houston
So awesome.
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So yah, Bobby V to the Sawx
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/15523/did-sox-make-right-call-with-bobby-v
Good for him, I like him.
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Nov 29, 2011 8:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I love this....
I…..love…..this!!
One of the great things about Greg Maddux was his game preparation….his game prep was 2nd to none and was a major part of his success. I’m just thinking about what he will do for guys like Holland and Harrison…
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 29, 2011 8:49 PM CST reply actions
Best news EVER, I let out a fangurl squeal when I heard it on espn radiop,,,
He’s my fav pitcher period when I got into baseball watching the braves and now he’s on my fav team.
bitchin' Camaro.
One of my faves.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
by Ryin A on Nov 29, 2011 9:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Indeed.....
Really excited about this turn of events….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
He and the gambler
Both were in a great fielding position by swinging their rubber foot around as part of their delivery and not falling off the mound in either direction.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Nov 29, 2011 10:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
18 Gold Gloves.
18.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
And he's wearing my sunglasses in that photo
Knew I liked him for some reason.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We have Nolan Ryan and Greg Maddux in our organization helping out pitchers.
This makes me really hard.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
What exactly will he be doing? He was a "special consultant" in Chicago. What does that entail?
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
Maybe he consulted with the retarded people in their front office
I got a broken brain
The doctor’s saying that I’m overpaid
Best former pitching front office in baseball.
SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!
I was thinking
what other front office could come close in wins and strikeouts? 679W and over 9,000K, wow.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
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