11/03/11 Morning Links - #OccupyLSB
by benmor78 on Nov 3, 2011 9:42 AM CDT
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Anthony Andro has a story on Darren O'Day being lost on waivers to the Orioles. We'll miss you, Darren. I'll order a Gabbard jersey in your honor. He also has a story on Adrian Beltre's gold glove.
Matt Mosley has a piece on off-season acquisitions, saying the focus remains on pitching but the Rangers may look at Prince Fielder and Albert Pujols.
The DMN has some excerpts from an interview CJ Wilson did with Ben and Skin saying that if money was the only thing motivating him, there are other things he could do with his time. I suppose this includes script writing, car racing, DJ'ing, and pitching like crap in the playoffs. There's also this one where he says he was "just so angry" after Game 6. Contrast that with with this post-Game 7 interview with Gordo from The Ticket. Oh, well. CJ was really good this season but he's still kind of irritating sometimes.
Here's Joey Matches on Warsh and his in-game management.
Also, I wrote a guest post for Big League Stew on the Rangers' World Series loss.
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Heh
I knew by the tweet that this was written by someone out of the ordinary. Good to see you pop by, Ben.
That's bothering me too... he's addressing him so it looked fine to me.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
One of my favorite post-season moments was the drunken "O'Day Chants" in the
concourse of RBiA after Game 3 of the 2010 World Series.
Stay hard, Darren!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
On Pujols and Fielder
When I reached out to him via text Wednesday morning, Rangers GM Jon Daniels didn’t sound like a man who was ready to go in head first for Pujols or Fielder.
“It’s unlikely, but I wouldn’t rule anything out,” Daniels said.
I’m assuming we’ll see dozens of these articles over the next few weeks. And I figure we won’t know what they do until the ninja strikes…or someone tracks down the ninja’s plane.
If they sign Fielder, I don't think Michael Young is a Texas Ranger in 2012.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I don't necessarily agree with that.
Hamilton’s contract is up after 2012 and Young’s is up after 2013. They will have plenty of room for the Fielder contract in future years. I think it would more strongly signify that they don’t plan on signing Hamilton to a long-term extension.
I don’t think Fielder’s place on this team affects Young’s role at all. Young’s proper position is DH and utility infielder. He can still do both with Fielder on this team.
The only reason it effects Young is this
Going forward who’s bat would you rather have in the lineup. Napoli or Young? Young has a better long term track record but doesn’t have nearly the upside. Fielder is obviously a better bat and a better 1b then Young, and doesn’t have a track record of injury.
So honestly the addition of a top line 1b does effect Young’s playing time.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
No it doesn't
Napoli isn’t going to catch 162 next year. He probably catches 100-110. So 50-60 games which would you rather have Young or Napoli?
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
Among those 50-60 games
There will be DL time, days off for Napoli, days off for Beltre/Kinsler. The effect would be hardly noticeable.
Before this year Beltre had been a 155+ game a year guy
So if hes healthy next year all year I wouldn’t expect him to need many days off
Exactly....even with Fielder, MY's role and playing time
would not be changed that much….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah it really would
he would be much much more a full time DH in the next couple years than a Utility type player. Unless he learned to play the OF he would only have room in the lineup at DH for the most part.
It wouldn’t affect his playing time much if any because we all know Wash will get him in the lineup but where he plays would be affected
Counting days off and DL trips
You’re probably talking about a max of 20 games where Young gets benched in favor of Napoli. And 20 games is probably a high number.
Young is not getting benched for Napoli, we all know this
As long as Michael Young is a Texas Rangers and Ron Washington is the manager and Young can continue hitting .300 he is going to play as many games as possible
Moreland, Young, Napoli combined for something like 1650 plate appearances
in 2011. If Fielder comes here (that fat fuck at $ 20 million per..really??) he’s going to get 650 plate appearances.
That leaves 1000 plate appearances between Moreland, Young and Napoli…and Naps going to get more anyways because he missed 50 (!) games this past year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
You're assuming Moreland is in that mix.......
I’m not so sure…..especially if they sign Fielder….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
If we sign Fielder I'd imagine that Moreland is traded somewhere
There is just no place for him if we sign a long term 1b.
What do voluntary mean?
The dude abides.....
Moreland is gone if that happens
it would 1000 at bats split by Young and Napoli…….650 at bats for Young and the rest for Naps (split between DH and catcher, he should still get 650 at bats).
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Yup....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
He didn't miss 50 due to injury.
He missed about 30 due to injury. The rest were him being a catcher and underutilized in the first half of the season.
From July 4th on, Napoli played almost every day with only occasional days off.
The way to look at it is: Between Moreland, Young, Napoli & Torrealba, that represents 2052 PA
If we add Fielder, he’ll get 650. Young will always get 600-650. Napoli would probably get 550 and whoever the backup catcher is would get 200 or so.
The odd man out would be Moreland.
It’s all moot anyway… we’re not signing Fielder. They might bring in a DH like Thome or Vlad to be a part time guy for 300 or so PA and have Young play 1B more.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I would love it if they signed Thome
and then used him sparingly for the first half of the season.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I'd rather have Fielder at 1B than Young,
though I haven’t looked into it closely.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he's even replacement-level in the field.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Oh, I'm interested.
It’s just that, as Snark and I hashed out a couple of days ago, with a budget that’s likely to be in the $110-125M range, there isn’t a place for Fielder and a new starting pitcher and I would rather have the starting pitcher.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
As much as I would like to have Fielder, I think I'm coming around to this
line of thinking.
Let me ask you this…do you think he gets 8/200? Is it out of the question that they would spend that money on CJ and Darvish or just sign one and wait for another FA after next season?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
i think if there is a really heavy bidding war he could get 8/200
Likely he gets a 8/190 deal which is slightly better than Tex’s but Tex’s was 3 years ago.
Personally I wouldn’t be shocked if he signed a deal that had a opt out after about 3 years which would allow him to be a FA once again like we’ve seen Arod and CC do recently. If hes open to that idea and I was the Rangers I would jump all over that because then you limit any fear you may have about his body holding up over the long term in Texas by allowing him to walk if he so chooses to opt out.
If....he chooses to opt out.....
If the breakdown is fast and fierce as some expect, we could be looking at our own Vernon Wells situation….I don’t necessarily think that’s the case but it’s the risk you take.
I’m with you, I like the thought of signing Fielder but am starting to think that I would rather spend it on pitching…it could be that the more I see of Darvish, the more I want to see Darvish here…..
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the time to splurge on pitching is next winter
There should be much more available than there is this winter.
This winter there are two dynamic offensive players at a position we are weak at. Thats where I believe we should attack and better our team
DAT COLE HAMMELS
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 3, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize how much better next winter should be
by VM on Nov 3, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why Josh is gone.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Assuming nobody goes Washington Nationals on it
I think something like 8/170, possibly with the last year not guaranteed, seems like the likely settling point.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Tex got 8/180 from NYY but the next highest bid was something like
8/164 from the Red Sox (I think).
Cabrera got 8/153 from Detroit and he’s a better hitter than Prince.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Cabrera wasn't a free agent...
I think that Fielder is one of the free agents most willing to consider biggest paycheck no matter where it’s coming from.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
And AG got the same deal essentially...one year before he hit free agency.
AG is a better player than Fielder and is going to also age better.
A contract any more than 8/120 for Fielder is foolish.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Probably.
He’ll still get more. Someone will be stupid with their money (Washington?).
You know that power gets paid.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
You may be right that anything more than 8/120 is foolish
But if you think you have a snowballs chance in hell of signing Prince at 8/120 you are fucking high.
One of the reasons I think we need to sign Fielder
Is we are going to lose at least 1 if not multiple of our offensive players in the coming years and there really isn’t anyone as dynamic as Fielder coming up on FA anytime soon
We dont have any true dynamic positional players in our farm system that look to be ML ready in the next couple years.
Fielder could be a very very amazing player here at the Ballpark. His offensive game fits perfectly with our park. He carries enough name recognition to partially offset losing Josh after next year to the average fan.
I believe our pitching can be fine without signing CJ or Yu this year given the guys who should be FAs next winter on the pitching front. Also our farm system being so pitcher heavy leads me to believe we can sustain losing CJ and it not affect our W/L record much at all. Remember we can always go out and get a top starter at deadline time if we absolutely have to. And the playoffs this year showed that while having great starters is nice its becoming more and more a bullpen and timely offensive game in the playoffs one which Fielder could help us out tremendously at.
It's not a bad argument
but it creates a financial pinch in 2012 and likely saddles the club with some dead weight (no pun intended) 6-8 years down the road.
Don’t forget that, despite offense trending down the last few years, there are still a fair number of options out there for defensively-poor mashers.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
Information like that shouldn’t make you not interested. Every human and player is unique… you use information like that to help you quantify risk and adjust your offer accordingly.
Fielder is a fantastic LH bat. Truly elite… that should interest every team. It’s a question of cost and budget.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'm afraid of two things with Fielder:
1) He may not age well, what with being 5’11, 270 and all;
2) I don’t want a guy with frying pans at the end of his arms playing 1B.
While (2) is less of a concern if (1) isn’t a problem, if his production ebbs at ALL, he becomes a liability. A very VERY expensive liability.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Why would it affect that
We can fit a Fielder contract into our budget by all accounts. Prince wouldn’t take ABs away from Young
All it may mean is Young might not get as many days in the IF as he did this year
The person it would affect the most, aside from Moreland obviously, is Napoli who wouldn’t be able to play 1B or DH when hes not catching
I agree with JW, assuming Face would agree
It would be a good salary dump and the comment during the World Series (something along the lines of “We need to get his ass off the field” after butchered first). Tells me that Ninja is not the only one within the org that is tired of watching Face butcher defense at every position.
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
It wouldn't be a salary dump since we would eat a majority of the contract anyway
And with Fielder at 1B you wouldn’t see Young there more than 2-3 times a year most likely given Prince’s lack of injury history.
What adding Fielder would do to Young is take away one place in the IF he could play on a semi-regular basis. A healthy Beltre takes another place away. They wont dare play Young at SS so that only leaves 2B as somewhere Young could possibly play and if Kinsler has a healthy 2012 like his 2011 then Young is left to be the primary DH and only play the field a handful amount of times during the season.
What it also does it make him a bench player in interleague and World Series if we got back to that point (although for interleague he could play and it would be a nice time to give other guys maybe a day of rest)
My point assumes that last year increased Face's value
of course, last year we would have had to include money in any trade, but this year, with his performance we would be trading high and, hopefully, be a pure salary dump. Maybe there is another GM like Reagins.
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
As discussed above, if they sign Fielder, Moreland is traded....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably a mute point in rosterbation, but
if they sign Fielder it makes sense to free up some money for pitching. I would do that by trading Face. That is, if the team truly values defense and pitching as Ninja stated during his presser.
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Trading Young would not free up any considerable amount of money
Since we would likely have to pay a majority of his salary
that's where we disagree
not like last year at all. Face had a wonderful year and might be more attractive.
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
He's still owed $32MM over the next 2 years
That is a ton of money for a light-hitting DH. Someone might pick up a portion of his salary but they won’t pick up the majority.
Perhaps Boston would want him if Ortiz leaves. Leadershippings and all.
3rd in wOBA, 4th in wRC+
I don’t think that constitutes “light hitting DH”
by elvis1isking on Nov 3, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
but all the hits = greater hitter
/idiot tweeter last night
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
But what is he likely to do moving forward?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
yep
but that wasn’t really the point.
Nerfherder: Face had a wonderful year…
Heebs: That is a ton of money for a light-hitting DH
by elvis1isking on Nov 3, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Michael Young IS a light-hitting DH
He doesn’t hit for much power, which is what I meant by light-hitting. If his average drops, which it most likely will, his numbers are going to fall dramatically. He doesn’t walk enough or hit for enough power to compensate.
I'd expect an .800 OPS from Face next year with good health.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I just hope Daniels finds a way to piss Young off in the off-season again.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
He's also a year older.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, trading MY to free up money would be a terrible PR move....
Secondly, I can’t imagine it would free up that much money.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
And just to be clear, we use 'mute' point to be funny, right?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
hehe . . my mistake
don’t get me going on my deaf rant
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm less sure of this.
The Rangers seem to like Moreland a lot, probably more than other organizations, so they may view the potential he has as a backup OF/1B/DH/PH to be worth more than what they could get in trade.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
He asked after one trip.
You think the second one would lock him in? I don’t anticipate he’ll ask for a trade (they’re not signing Fielder or Pujols, so that won’t be what spurs him) but douchier things have happened.
by LiamP on Nov 3, 2011 10:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Whoops. Thought I cancelled this one.
by LiamP on Nov 3, 2011 10:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But why?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
He wanted it after one trip.
You think the second one would lock him in? I don’t anticipate he’ll ask for a trade (they’re not signing Fielder or Pujols, so that won’t be what spurs him) but douchier things have happened.
by LiamP on Nov 3, 2011 10:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think the MY / JD War is over...we just had a 9 month cease fire.
Face owns all the power this off-season but I wonder if he’d agree to a trade to Boston if they guaranteed him another $ 8 million in 2014?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Why would Boston want him?
They’ve got Gonzalez, Pedroia and Youk under contract. Unless they let Ortiz walk… but Ortiz would cost less than Young unless we eat a giant chunk of his salary.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Texas is eating at least half of the Young contract if they move him.
Ortiz may be leaving but he was a DH only. Young can spell players in Boston like he did in Texas this past year.
Face has almost all the power and it depends what he wants to do most…play in the field, go some place where he can win a ring or some place on the west coast.
If Face stays here, I don’t think it’s going to end well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
You wouldn't be for training up Young at 1B and putting Ortiz at DH?
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 3, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Big Papi's got love in Boston almost as much as Young here.
I don’t think they’d make that move when they can just re-sign Ortiz.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Papi made noise about going to the MF Yankees after their season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
If Papi leaves...
They might explore it as a backup option. I think Boston is a team he would go to… especially if Maddux ends up the manager there.
But that’s a fair amount of dominoes to fall to get there.
I still think the absolute most likely scenario is he finishes his contract here.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If Young is not moved, I don't see how the Rangers change their club
at all going into 2012 and that’s a very dangerous mindset to take.
I said it before but I think this upcoming off-season is JD’s greatest challenge because of the temptation to bring everybody back and expect 2011 to happen all over again.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Im pretty sure we could find the exact same comment from you last offseason
But hey, look who im talking to.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
The team changed quite dramatically in the 2011 off-season / in-season.
PS Koufax, Vlad n Frankie out, Beltre, Napoli in, Ogando to the rotation, Face to DH – 1B, Judy shit-canned in early May… we had a lot of change.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Almost all of which you bitched about.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
x
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
My apologies.
I’ll stop now.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I was fine with Vlad leaving, bitched big-time about them
letting PS Koufax go and expressed serious reservations about Beltre getting that long of a deal because he won’t age well and we also needed to extend CJ & Josh.
Neither CJ nor Josh have been extended.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Not bad for you, BSteve
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
young will still get 650 PA's here....why the hell would he be upset?
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
It's his version of a Rangers-based WWE grudge match.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Yeah...making it all up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yes.
1. JD signs a real third baseman. Young slated to be primarily a DH.
2. Young bitches and complains, and demands a trade.
3. JD doesn’t trade him.
4. Young plays DH, and does well.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
oh, no.........................................................................................
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
A simple statement of the facts is nothing to be scared of, GoSF. ;)
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Just wait for it...................wait for it...............
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Bullshit.
Young showed his rage and had little JD crapping his pants in fear. He backed down like a Tijuana Hooker and This Thing was better for it.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 3, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Well-played...
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I agree completely but I meant wait for
the standard JW defense argument……
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
See? Just like clockwork........
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Get the Face Facts correct.
He didn’t bitch or complain until JD said 1B belongs to Mitch Moreland, the team traded for Napoli and was supposedly kicking the tires on Thome/Manny.
That’s when Young essentially called him a lying sack of shit in public.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
And it turned out everything JD said was correct
Mitch was the primary 1B and Youngs playing time did not take a bit of a hit. he got just as many PA’s as he normally has
Moreland started 89 games at 1B but it was
hardly his job. It was a 3-way.
“His job to lose” means at least 125 games to me.
And if they sign Thome, Young would have lost substantial time at DH.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
It was his job at the start of the season
In season events (Moreland cooling off after a hot start, Wash realizing Napoli is a beast) caused him to lose playing time there.
Point still remains that Michael Young was never told he would lose playing time and it was constantly mentioned by Wash and JD that Young would continue to play everyday yet Young didn’t believe them. In the end it was proven that what JD and Wash said during the winter came true regarding Michael Youngs playing time
I don't remember JD saying that Young
would play every day…I do remember Washington saying it.
I have to guess that it was the Moreland comment / kicking the tires on Thome (offered him $ 1 more than Twins) is what sent Face over the edge.
This was after he agreed to move for Beltre and listened to his name being thrown around at the Winter Meetings (his contract being blamed for the team not being able to sign Lee).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Your argument is not with me this time, JW....
I’m done with you….I’m just trying to get others to see the light….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
My recollection is that Young came back from the holidays and
agreed to move to DH…and the Rangers signed Beltre on January 5.
Where did you read about Young bitching and complaining?
And as I recall, it was JD who apologized for getting out of line.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Please link the JD apology
And also please source how this incident has turned it into a long-term feud. And please link where Michael Young told JD to “fuck off” like you’ve said many times.
Links are for losers!
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Does anyone know the term for what I'm going to describe below?
Where you say something enough times that people take it as fact. What is that called?
In logic, it's called "proof by assertion", I think.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
It was discussed on The Ticket, Heebs.
Face said (at that wonderful press conference) the first day of ST that he had no plans to talk to JD and reiterated those thoughts two weeks later on Norm’s show.
Come to find out that JD apologized and they put it behind them.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'm sure you have SOME link to a story
that talks about JD saying, “Yeah, I apologized to Michael” or “I told Michael I was sorry” or something like that, right? Right?!?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Saying you heard something doesn't qualify.
Please go find it and link it. And as far as this long-term feud…
Come to find out that JD apologized and they put it behind them.
You seem to contradict yourself here.
Shhhhhh
Your messing the story up!
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
"Put it behind them" = cease fire.
I don’t think it’s over.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
That isn't what put it behind them means.
Putting it behind them means that it is over. What you are describing is what is called “tabling the discussion”. And something you have absolutely no proof of.
I don't have proof of it because I wasn't a fly on the wall.
And yes, it is an assumption of mine that the Face / JD War is not over.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Your recaller seems to be broken...
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Here we go again.......................................................
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
This is almost freaky.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I think Fielder would be their backup backup plan.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the thing I'm most angry about
is that Gerald Leard is now a world champion.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
I think I said as much to Target Field when I was at his house for Game 7
“I just don’t want Gerald Laird to have a World Series ring.”
-- Micah
"When it comes to my dong I’m a selfish prick." - MikeEl
by The Best Micah on Nov 3, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam told you people back during the Buck years...
but you wouldn’t listen. Gerald Laird has the heart and BMI of a champion.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
grrrr
My Gerald Laird hate is growing.
At least I get to see the Rangers when they play the Twins now.
Meh
Antoine Walker somehow got a ring in 2006.
There will always be bit players who get rings before more deserving stars in sports.
That’s just the way it works.
Writer for Defending Big D
by Brandon Bibb on Nov 3, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Ugh I HATED Walker getting a ring
After watching his awful 1 season as a Maverick.
That shimmy is brutal.
One of probably four of five times in my life not counting murderers/terrorists
That I would not have been able to stop myself from striking the person on the TV dead if I had that power.
Antoine is worse than any murderer or terrorist
by dolphinpuncher on Nov 3, 2011 4:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If Antoine was also a dolphin,
how bad would you fuck him up?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
walker celebrating at the AAC
Was by far and away the worst
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
by MayurP on Nov 3, 2011 11:43 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Adam Morrison.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Oooh, good point.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
So CJ is "Irritating"
I like CJ’s comments, and Holland’s goofiness. And I thought the “Detention” article on yahoo yesterday was strange when I read it. I was interested in your evaluation of the home plate umpire from game 7. That’s the second really negative grade I’ve heard for him for game 7 so I was thinking maybe I can blame Harrison’s walks on the ump.
He will be more irritating if he signs with the Angels
at least one expert picked the Angels as his landing spot. It makes sense, as the Angels probably would like to put an end to the Napoli talk with a similar move.
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
But then we get to hit against his terrible pitching. Win!
/CJ Hater
-- Micah
"When it comes to my dong I’m a selfish prick." - MikeEl
by The Best Micah on Nov 3, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
No amount of free agent signings
will ever stop me (or probably anyone at LSB) from Napoli/Wells talk…..
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
From all accounts the Angels wont have the money to sign CJ
Whatever the Angels can offer the Rangers could match it if the reports of their payroll limits are correct
I had a thought this morning:
The Angels would be really, really scary if they could afford to (and did) sign Fielder.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
CJ : Ben :: AJM : Cuban
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
AJM irritates Cuban?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Damnit.
I blame my coffeemaker for continually producing weak coffee. Sigh…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Somebody at the liquor store said "Buffalo Bills" to me
I have never come so close to punching a stranger in my life.
At least I get to see the Rangers when they play the Twins now.
It was up at Central Ave Liquors
But I doubt they will be there again.
At least I get to see the Rangers when they play the Twins now.
I've already taken care of them..
by dolphinpuncher on Nov 3, 2011 4:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow...people are stupid......
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Point of order!
Let’s take the temperature.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
Cold.....about 50 degrees.......
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
You have to wiggle your fingers when the facilitator...
asks to take the temperature. It’s a consensus building tool. Jeez, y’all are #OccupyRetards.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
"Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed! "
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Wiggly fingers up to support the motion
Defending Big D Check it out
Twitter
"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Keith Law's FA rankings are out.
He has Buehrle (No. 6) ahead of CJ (No. 8).
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
Seems odd.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
He should get taken to task for that,
but I doubt he will.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
He cited CJ's reliance on needing a good infield defense behind him...
But thinks Buehrle is more valuable?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't understand it.
I get not liking CJ’s propensity for walks, but…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
It really makes no sense
Even his writeup of the two seems inconsistent.
by Dirk Diggler on Nov 3, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
CRAP
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#redsox, #cubs both have asked for permission to interview mike maddux for manager now. terrific candidate.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
I don't think the manager would have much to do with his decision.
If he followed… I think it would be because of the combination of money and chance to win. Not the manager.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Why would Maddux want to step into that Boston mess?
I know it’s probably a dream job foe every manager but that clubhouse is in shambles……
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Media overreaction?
Quite possible……“shambles” might have been an overstatement.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes and no.
They were great from mid April thru August (remember when they kicked our ass all over the place in late August?) so they couldn’t have had too much dysfunction.
It’s just when the shit hit the fan, they couldn’t overcome it.
Good gawd, they still have AG, Pedroia, Youkah, Ellsbury and I would assume King Carl Crawford comes storming back. That’s a great place to manage.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
When has Carl Crawford ever been called King?
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
By Josey Wales at LSB
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Why is Carl Crawford royalty all of a sudden?
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
Only 30 jobs like that in the league.
Coaching in Boston would be fine. You get to have the clean slate. It’s good experience… especially for a guy like Maddux who doesn’t have managerial skins on the wall.
If you’re Joe Torre you don’t take the mess… if you’re Mike Maddux you absolutely do.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Good point....talk about going under the microscope, though....yikes.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Nov 3, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the Cubs and Red Sox have money to offer.
And with the Red Sox he’d be stepping into a very good team. With all that being equal I could see him staying with the guy who’s been with him every step of the way in his transition to starting pitcher.
The Cubs are a different story as far as chance to win. I think they going in the right direction but seriously lack personnel.
I wonder if Mike would say something along the lines of "I'll take the job, but our first order of business is signing CJ"
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
LaTroy?
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 3, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Because Hawkins was with him in the minors?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'd rather manage the Cubs, I think.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I assumed you'd have ripped off pages and worn them like an outfit.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
More like Frozen Tauntaun Riders, amirite??
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Fucking liberals
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Liberals and their "art"
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
You have a weird idea of "liberals."
by Closure GT on Nov 3, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
christ.
come the fuck on, man, don’t post that shit.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish I had someone here to pop my back right now.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Cubs ask for permission to talk to Maddox??
Say it aint so…
he gone...i has a sad
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
"fuck you, Freese."
I said this a billion times exactly a week from today and I will keep on saying it in my head for an eternity. “fuck you, Freese.” “fuck you, Freese.” “fuck you, Freese.”
"Stay hungry, stay foolish." ~ R.I.P. Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)
by pinoyintegrity on Nov 3, 2011 11:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
sad that he is a native Texan.
Born in the “Sparkling City by the Sea” (forget about all that red tide), about thirty miles from Mike Adams (Sinton) and ten miles from Mike Gonzalez (Robstown).
"Say, you don't think there's any way I can get that quarter
From underneath your pointy boot, do ya?"
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Nov 3, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
So glad we have a front page guy to bring up politics on a sports blog.
/s
HNNNNNNGGGGG
by JoseTres on Nov 3, 2011 11:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
That's for college grads only.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 3, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Ha...
#Occupy is showing what a college degree and a bunch of student debt gets you.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Nov 3, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The top story of the news, obviously!
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Nov 3, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
THAT'S why that sounded familiar.
Heh, thanks.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
From a secret cache of Texas Rangers front office files; this file from December 2008:
(Only Jon Daniels was identified by name).
….
Daniels: OK, folks, let’s move on to the infield. Let’s start with shortstop; that’s the keystone position. Michael had an off year at the plate and with the glove, however the Gold Glove award went. I know he was injured, and I don’t think there’s much we can do about the defense, but he hasn’t smacked the ball around like we know he can over the last few seasons. Any ideas about what we can do to really motivate him to step it up?
Coach 1: Sign him to an outrageous contract extension?
Daniels: …
Coach 1: Oh, right. Well, he hits better when he’s pissed off at someone or something.
Daniels: Hmmm. That’s interesting. So who and what pisses him off?
Coach 1: C.J. Wilson.
Coach 2: Thundercats.
Coach 1: Poorly made omelets.
Coach 3: Very small rocks.
Coach 1: Ducks!
Coach 3: HE’S A WITCH! BURN HIM!
(All coaches giggle.)
Daniels: C’mon, guys, concentrate.
Coach 2: Well, he’s really proud of that Gold Glove he just won. I bet he’d be really pissed if we found some amazingly slick young defensive guy to force him off short.
Daniels: Exxxxxxcellent.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Nov 3, 2011 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
From another file, dated later in December:
Daniels: So, Nolan, it worked. Michael seems pretty pissed. I’m guessing 125 wRC+ this season.
Ryan: Nice work, kid. Want me to handle the PR fallout?
Daniels: Yeah, I need to stay the bad guy. Have to be able to piss him off again when this move wears off. Elvis is so nice a kid, he’ll probably be best buddies with Michael by Opening Day.
Ryan: Will do. Keep up the good work, kid. You don’t know how gratifying it is to take on an executive position and be able to relax, because the GM and hist team have such a tight handle on everything. I think I’ll take the rest of the day off to go wrestle some calves and take some Advil.
Daniels: You have fun with that, boss.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Nov 3, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
And a third, dated November 2010:
Ryan: Jon, you got a moment?
Daniels: Sure, boss. What’s up?
Ryan: Not Michael Young’s batting average, on-base percentage, or slugging percentage, that’s for sure.
Daniels: Yeah. I figured the Elvis Andrus Gambit wouldn’t last longer than one season.
Ryan: Any ideas?
Daniels: Yeah. Let’s piss him off again.
Ryan: How?
Daniels: Six words, boss: “Acquire Adrian Beltre and Mike Napoli.”
Ryan: Ooooh, you’re good. You’re really good.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
January 2012
Ryan: now what Jon?
Daniels: we take away his red Swingline stapler
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Nov 3, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I asked Keith Law about why he put Buehrle over CJ in his chat. Here's his response.
Buehrle has a substantially lower beta, a longer track record of performance, more durability, no injury history, might be the best-fielding pitcher in the game, shuts down the running game… Wilson has more upside, but far lower probability overall. Risk matters.
Buehrle has allowed 49 stolen bases in his major league career. Wilson has allowed 45 in the last two years. It’s a very minor factor, but it’s part of how Buehrle gets by with a below-average fastball.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
So basically, he ranked him higher for reasons having nothing to do with actually throwing a ball and getting a batter out.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
x
longer track record of performance
that tends to suggest he evaluated his ability to throw a ball and get a batter out
by elvis1isking on Nov 3, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's true.
I must’ve just skimmed right past that to the fielding and holding runners stuff.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I figured it would be something like that
but then, why rate Darvish that highly?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Much lower floor, too.
Also, are we sure that CJ hit is ceiling this past year in his second year of starting? Because while Yu’s ceiling may actually be Roy Halladay, that seems much farther out than 2 or 3 standard deviations from the mean.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
You're confusing me with someone who actually understands Law's logic, here.
I’m just guessing.
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
Hah, well played.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're projecting a range rather than a single mean,
wouldn’t it incorporate an upper point better than what he did last year?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd probably have his last year as pretty close to the upper end of the range based on its being so much better than his 2009,
but yes, technically. But I think you also have to weight things in favor of him not being that unusual.
Yeah, but if we're ranking the order of pitchers
most likely to have a 6 WAR [#1 pitcher] level season over the next 2-3 years, wouldn’t most say
Wilson, Darvish, Buehrle ?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
That's probably still CJ with Buerle's age.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I liked it a lot better when everyone else hated CJ and I got to defend him,
instead of being stuck thinking everyone else is overrating him. :|
Do you disagree with Match's point, though?
I think CJ IS more likely to be better and more consistent over the next 4 seasons than Buerle.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
I think CJ is much more likely to significantly underperform the contract he signs.
(Part of this isn’t his “fault” exactly, just that he’ll be getting paid much more than Buehrle.)
I agree with this.
And if you said two years or three years I might have agreed with you.
But over four years, I’d take CJ as more likely to maintain because he’s younger.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That's pretty much what I was thinking.
While there is a decent chance CJ will underperform a big contract (with WARs of, say, 5/4/4/3), I think it’s just as likely (if not moreso) that Buehrle goes 3/3/3/2. The last time Buerhle was 4+ WAR was in ’08.
The deeper I look into this, the less I understand putting Buerhle above Wilson. Unless he’s simply ranking them on a relative basis (Buehrle will get paid less, so it doesn’t matter that he has almost no real room to the upside), I just don’t get it.
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Mixed race fetish
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...ok.
So’s India, but…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 3, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Where did he rate Darvish?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
As the highest SP.
Number 3 overall I think.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
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aandro Anthony Andro
Rangers adding sports bar and dining club. Kid’s zone will move inside to try and beat heat. More shade being added.
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A new Batter’s Eye Club, an indoor seating area at the top of Greene’s Hill. It will feature four rows of seating for about 100 fans and a view of the playing surface through two-way glass, which will be dark on the field side. It will be a 6,250 square foot structure that is climate controlled and will have its own buffet, bar and dining area. It’s an area that can be sued for group rentals and as individual seating for certain games.
No more bleachers
* Seating areas. The aluminum bleacher seats on either side of Greene’s Hill are being replaced with regular ballpark seats. By going to individual seats, the seating area actually decreases to 424 seats from 1,075. There will be covered decks and areas above the seating areas to the left and right of Greene’s Hill.
Foul poles.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I also still have scars on the back of my legs from wearing shorts and sitting on those bleachers as a child.
So there’s that.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
"It’s an area that can be sued for group rentals"?
That sucks: hasn’t even been built yet, and already there’s litigation…
Dark Luck Dragon of the Sith
by Darth Snark on Nov 3, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's because so many lawyers blog about baseball.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I thought our lawyers were mostly concerned with pillaging the marital community?
"An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come." *Victor Hugo*
Just talking Great Game...
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
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