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Danke Schoen, Darling, Danke Schoen.
Thank you for all the joy and pain.
Picture shows, second balcony, was the place we'd meet,
Second seat, go Dutch treat, you were sweet.

Danke Schoen, Darling, Danke Schoen.
Save those lies, Darling don't explain.
I recall, Central Park in fall.
How you tore your dress, what a mess, I confess.
That's not all.

Danke Schoen, Darling, Danke Schoen.
Thank you for walks down Lover's Lane.
I can see, hearts carved on a tree.
Letters inter-twined, for all time, yours and mine, that wasfine.

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I can't not think of ferris when I hear this

Please tell me where I said I would not have sex with her. I dare you. - Loblaw

by Chrom on Dec 14, 2011 11:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

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EricPincus Eric Pincus
Chris Kaman for being traded – extra $1.9 mil – forgot to ask him about that . . . trade kicked

by octoberty on Dec 14, 2011 11:22 PM CST reply actions  

Grantland had a decent take on the trend of NBA guys dressing nerdy.

I love the trend in general, but while I liked Kanye’s backpack thing, I don’t like the newer backpack style much.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Dec 15, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

x

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7346656/the-rise-nba-nerd

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Dec 15, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Already listened to it.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Dec 16, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

This is going to be fun
CharleeRedz13 Delonte West
Is them joints in season…in d DMV…we do the blue crabs….but them crawfish be aight Jo..

by sprite on Dec 14, 2011 11:34 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, 3 tweets in a row like that.

Him and Deshawn would be great together.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 14, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

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West, Stevenson, Odom, Dirk, Marion/Haywood would be interesting to watch.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 14, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

DelMarVa!

Northern Virginia's all time world champion Rangers fan of all time and all of Northern Virginia, and the rest of Virginia too. Mayor of Greatestfanville, Virginia.

Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.

http://www.brianthomas.tv/

by Brian Thomas on Dec 16, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I love this man
Corporal Clinton Copeland said West was speeding and cut off a police cruiser while riding on his three-wheeled 2009 Can-Am Spyder motorcycle.

After being stopped West informed police he was carrying a gun in his waistband, which was a 9mm Beretta. Police also found a Ruger .357 strapped to his leg and a shotgun inside a guitar case that was slung over his back. West was traveling alone.

Northern Virginia's all time world champion Rangers fan of all time and all of Northern Virginia, and the rest of Virginia too. Mayor of Greatestfanville, Virginia.

Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.

http://www.brianthomas.tv/

by Brian Thomas on Dec 16, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice to see their former coach believe in them like this
JerryZgoda
ESPN’s K Rambis analyzing CP3 deal: “And we can’t forget that 1st rd pick from Minnesota that you know is going to be a lottery pick.”

by sprite on Dec 14, 2011 11:50 PM CST reply actions  

JJ will lead them to the 8 seed!

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.

by jonas m. on Dec 15, 2011 4:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Can't wait
ESPNChrisPalmer
Blake Griffin upon hearing @CP3 news: “It’s going to be Lob City.”

by sprite on Dec 15, 2011 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah... it'll be fun to watch.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 15, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you think, with 12 players, we should go

PG, SG, G, G, SF, PF, F, F, C, C, UTIL

or

PG, SG, G, G, SF, PF, F, F, C, UTIL

or

PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTIL, UTIL

or

PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTIL

by octoberty on Dec 15, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

YES THEY COULD ADAM GOOD IDEA
Adam J. Morris @lonestarball Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Didn’t the Mavs get a big trade exception in the Brewer/Rudy deal? Could Dallas use that to get Kaman from the Hornets?

by Alan Smithee on Dec 15, 2011 3:55 AM CST reply actions  

Cray
tomhaberstroh
Um, Paul George grew two inches in the offseason, now stands 6-foot-10 apparently. — indy.st/seg1la #whut

by sprite on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

That didn't take long
TheRocketGuy
Vince Carter already out of practice with knee tendinitis…expect DeShawn Stevenson back in Dallas before too long..

by sprite on Dec 15, 2011 11:50 AM CST reply actions  

lol

Vince does NOT like practice

by Jobu. on Dec 15, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

We're talking about practice.

Not a game, not a game, not a game…..

"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10

by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Dec 15, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

xx

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 16, 2011 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Blazers have decided to use the amnesty clause on Brandon Roy, league sources told Y! Sports.

by octoberty on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

makes sense
@sam_amick: Jamal Crawford has chosen Portland, according to two sources

by behindthebag on Dec 15, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

is it?

I feel like Crawford is a better fit on a fast paced team, a run and gun type squad.

Also, now that he’s north of 30, I don’t think he’s going to be all that great anymore. Volume shooters who don’t help much on D tend to become less than useful quickly.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 16, 2011 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

if you say so

Felton, Wallace and Aldridge are pretty capable scorers.

Maybe they’ll play a more up tempo style this season. They probably should, with Felton and Wallace in the fold and Roy retired.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 16, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

NBA thread IV was much better than this one.

I blame scoop.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 15, 2011 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

Preseason in two days.

Things probably had to quiet down at some point.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 15, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Pull yourself togethe.

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Dec 15, 2011 5:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

r

"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz

"Baseball's all that's real" - JB

by Ryin A on Dec 15, 2011 5:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ouch
IamaGM IamaGM.com
A-Oh: FIBA doesn’t give clearance to Bismack Biyombo to join Bobcats dlvr.it/10hWBj

by octoberty on Dec 15, 2011 5:31 PM CST reply actions  

on Delonte West

"Listen, I like milk drinkers, but I don’t like too many milk drinkers," Carlisle said. "We need guys that are edgy, that bring attitude."

by Goyogringo on Dec 15, 2011 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

Not having

seen delonte west play in like 2 years and not remembering much about him before that, how good is he at running an offense, moving without ball? How is his handle, his first step, breaking down his man and getting to the cup, keeping his dribble? Someone catch me up to speed on his game and what he brings and doesn’t bring to the table (for this team).

by Goyogringo on Dec 15, 2011 5:39 PM CST reply actions  

Is he a capable defender against

big guards? Stevenson has about 25 pounds on him in the regard…

by Goyogringo on Dec 15, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

He has a very good reputation as a defender.

I don’t see him guarding a ton of big guards very well. But he does have long arms and will definitely compete and not back down.

He’s more of a combo guard than a true point, so his offense running will look a lot different than Kidd’s, just like JJ last year was a big change of pace.

Honestly I’d say the best description of him is that he’s solid in pretty much everything, great at nothing.

by jthig32 on Dec 15, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

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IamaGM IamaGM.com
Stephen A. Smith claims Kobe Bryant is livid, predicts he will demand a trade dlvr.it/10hbS0

by octoberty on Dec 15, 2011 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

Awesome!

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 15, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

What teams could possibly trade for his contract?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 15, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see why anybody would take him on

He’ll be making 30 a year soon and the cap is at 58.

by sprite on Dec 15, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

That what I meant.

He’s virtually untradeable despite being “Kobe”.

I hope he does demand one too. Would be fun to see that circus play out.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 15, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

He'd probably demand a trade to the Clippers.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Dec 15, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

he has to restructure

if hes traded

then again, does he have no trade clause? maybe they can trade him to a shit team

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 16, 2011 7:58 AM CST up reply actions  

yea

kobe and dirk are the only players w/no trade clauses, kobe will insist on going to a contender. only problem is w/him taking up almost half a teams cap you’re not going to give him up and get good value for him most likely

by studcrackers on Dec 18, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

lol
ChrisKaman
I feel like my girlfriend broke up with me, but I still want to be friends because I really like her family

by sprite on Dec 15, 2011 5:56 PM CST reply actions  

wow

"There's a larger issue at play here: There is a big social stigma in this country against lazy, self-centered assholes." - The Onion, Are Tests Biased Against Students Who Don't Give A Shit?

by BAC on Dec 15, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

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Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Josh Howard has agreed to terms with Utah, source says

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.

by Aqua on Dec 15, 2011 5:58 PM CST reply actions  

Josh Howard in SLC... sounds like a blast.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 15, 2011 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Not because of Howard,

but I think they’re this year’s scary 1st round matchup.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 15, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

What's the point?

IamaGM IamaGM.com
Kings make formal offer to Andrei Kirilenko dlvr.it/10jLK7

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 15, 2011 8:22 PM CST reply actions  

do not understand
Mavs president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson points out that Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion were never known as defensive stoppers until the Mavs’ title run.
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That, Nelson said, is a credit to Carlisle. That’s why Nelson thinks the Mavs will still be a stingy defensive team with Brendan Haywood as the Mavs’ only true big man.

Weird logic, there. And maybe Marion was underrated on D because he played on so many high scoring teams in Phoenix, but Jason Kidd was 1st team All Defense four times.

It’s going to be interesting to see how Dallas matches up with big teams like the Lakers, Grizzlies, etc. but there are fewer big post scorers these days.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 16, 2011 8:01 AM CST reply actions  

I thought of both of them as strong defensive players before their time here.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 16, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Before their time here, sure.

But going into last season, they seemed to have lost some of the speed necessary to be a good defender.

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Dec 16, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

nah

marion was really good last season too

by studcrackers on Dec 18, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh.

I disagree on both counts. Marion has always been a great defender. People didn’t think of him that way because of who he played for.

And Kidd…Kidd is widely considered one of the most dominant defensive guards in the history of the league. Just a really confusing statement from Donnie.

Maybe he meant that Kidd’s defensive reputation had slipped. It definitely had. But during his prime? Please.

by jthig32 on Dec 16, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it was more the quickness aspect

There were serious concerns whether he would be able to keep up with all the young, quick PGs in the league

by bigsteve on Dec 16, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Man, I hope Kobe is healthy this year, he is going to be a man possessed.
TMZ is reporting that Kobe Bryant’s wife, Vanessa, has filed for divorce citing irreconcilable differences.

by octoberty on Dec 16, 2011 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

Nooooooooooo pre nup

lol

First they took Odom away from him. Now, he’ll lose somewhere north of $150M.

by Jobu. on Dec 16, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Is there a U.S. state

where it’s safe for a guy to get married?

Go Strangers.

by hightowersmith on Dec 16, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

*or if there is a possibility.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 19, 2011 7:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm
BallinWithBryan Bryan Gutierrez
Jerome Randle looks awfully comfortable with the rock.

by octoberty on Dec 16, 2011 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

Dude has some handles and is lightning quick.

Blew by his guy and finished more than once. I got my eye on him on Sunday. Tiny as hell tho

by sprite on Dec 16, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see

a little more under control going to the basket than JJ.. But again, it was a scrimmage. Wright looked good when he was out there too.

by sprite on Dec 16, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh hell, I forgot about that open scrimmage.

Bet my man Neitzel ran the show.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 16, 2011 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Holy crap, that's awful.

Johnson said his starting lineup will consist of [Damion] James at small forward, Shelden Williams at power forward, Brook Lopez at center, Anthony Morrow at shooting guard and Deron Williams at point guard on Saturday.

by octoberty on Dec 16, 2011 7:39 PM CST reply actions  

Did the Cavs have these uni's last year?

They’re horrible. They look like the Gophers.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 16, 2011 8:07 PM CST reply actions  

Charlie Villanueva creeps me out.

I don’t care if that makes me a bad person.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 16, 2011 8:17 PM CST reply actions  

Keep sweat out of your eyes.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 16, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Missed it.

They started the first segment like 5 minutes earlier than usual.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 17, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed.
noamschiller Noam Schiller
Every single play that doesn’t end in a Jan Vesely alley-oop is a complete and utter waste. This includes the Pacers-Bulls game.

by octoberty on Dec 16, 2011 8:19 PM CST reply actions  

x

One handed

but that scoreline is why they’re going to keep Young.

by sprite on Dec 16, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

uhhh
Lopez_Nuggets Aaron J. Lopez
Some final stats from #Nuggets scrimmage: Rudy 20 pts, 10 asst; Kosta 24 pts, 8 reb; Gallo 14 pts, 10 reb; Mozgov 18 pts, 8 reb.

by octoberty on Dec 16, 2011 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

So this Jeff Green thing

just signed a contract and might be out for the season with a “mysterious condition”. Hope he’s alright.

by sprite on Dec 16, 2011 10:09 PM CST reply actions  

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WojYahooNBA
After an aortic aneurysm was discovered, forward Jeff Green will have surgery and miss the 2011-’12 season, Celtics say.

by sprite on Dec 17, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Geez.

Hank Gathers is the saddest sports moment I ever saw. Scary.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 17, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Troy Murphy has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Lakers, league source tells Y! Sports.

by octoberty on Dec 17, 2011 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

Dat Spin
LakersReporter
The Lakers have officially signed forward/center Troy Murphy, who has averaged a double-double in 5-of-10 NBA seasons.

by sprite on Dec 18, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

talkhoops Zach Harper
It’s just a preseason game but Love is on another level right now. He’s reacting perfectly to everything on offense. Defense looks solid too

by octoberty on Dec 17, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

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IamaGM IamaGM.com
Houston Chronicle has sources saying David Stern “flatout lied” about the Chris Paul trade to the Lakers dlvr.it/110YFZ

http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets/article/Source-NBA-commish-lied-about-failed-three-team-2409742.php

by octoberty on Dec 17, 2011 8:42 PM CST reply actions  

I for one am completely shocked

that David Stern would be less than forthright about anything. What precedent is there for this?

by Brett Perryman on Dec 17, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Stephen Curry time

they should’ve signed Nene

by sprite on Dec 17, 2011 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

Warriors broadcast didn't know they were on the air

went on for a while and ended with them saying something about Obama before it cut off.

by sprite on Dec 17, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

This wasn't on tv was it? Didn't see it.

Im assuming you caught a stream of a local channel.

by DShep on Dec 17, 2011 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah I forgot about NBATV

Don’t know why a search didn’t bring it up.

Don’t really care about this one but I’ll catch some other matchups on there then.. cool.

by DShep on Dec 17, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Man, the Kings suck.

Udoh had a good half for the Warriors.

by sprite on Dec 17, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

He can still score.

I haven’t been paying close enough attention to see what kind of liability he is on defense. That range knows no limits, though.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 17, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

x

IamaGM IamaGM.com
ESPN Confirms: Knicks sign Baron Davis dlvr.it/115SKx

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 18, 2011 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

if motivated

he can play well. and he’s got lots of toys with him to play with

by studcrackers on Dec 18, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

x

IamaGM IamaGM.com
Kenyon Martin could become an NBA free agent as Xinjiang seriously considering cutting him dlvr.it/115zkK

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 18, 2011 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

Time for another Darvish Night Watch? heh
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
It’s coming up on 8 a.m. Monday in Tokyo. Are there any revelations forthcoming about Yu Darvish? #BlueJays #Rangers #StayTuned

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Dec 18, 2011 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

Dammit

Wrong thread again. This is starting to become a bad habit of mine.

"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM

by e2drummer on Dec 18, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Norris Cole

he’s an interesting kid..

by sprite on Dec 18, 2011 6:24 PM CST reply actions  

This thread for the game or is there a chat?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

O/U on VC dunk contest highlights shown during the game?

I’ll say 1.5

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

Odom, VC and West look soooooo weird in Mavs jerseys

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Just resting

got another game on Tuesday. He’ll get some run then.

by sprite on Dec 18, 2011 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Less West

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:44 PM CST reply actions  

Vinsanity!

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

I'm going to enjoy watching Odom this year.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

I'm going to hate watching West this year.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Why did the Lakers gift us Odom again?

What were they trying to do? Just respect his trade demand after the league screwed up CP3?

by DShep on Dec 18, 2011 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

I heard Cuban say on the Ticket that it was a take it or leave it deal.

Had to decide that night.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

mavs team looks weird lol

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Dec 18, 2011 6:54 PM CST reply actions  

i know he hasn't had much practice time w/ the team but he looks turrible so far

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Dec 18, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

heh its awful

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Dec 18, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Is West better

running half court sets or on the break – he looks shaky on both tonight. I haven’t seen him much….

VC
4 touches 4 shots

by Goyogringo on Dec 18, 2011 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

West looks pretty good defensively

he pesky

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Dec 18, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoops

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 18, 2011 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

My brain is trying to understand why Dampier handles the ball and shoots so much.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 7:00 PM CST reply actions  

Mahimi!

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

we have a Roddy sighting !

man can he jump

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Dec 18, 2011 7:09 PM CST reply actions  

Roddy!

Axe Em Rangers is Big Foot.

by TTWBG on Dec 18, 2011 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

what is this passing by VC?

NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development

Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM

by shock00 on Dec 18, 2011 7:18 PM CST reply actions  

I want Randle to show us something

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 7:30 PM CST reply actions  

I didn't see Iverson's jersey in his hand...

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Preseason games don't attract the type of NBA groupie talent a regular season game does.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 7:37 PM CST reply actions  

Early review...

Love Odom
Hate West
Love/Hate Carter

Hope Mahimi, DoJo and Roddy can give quality minutes this year.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

I'm prepared to call the season a bust if we lose this preseason game.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Dirk sitting out this game.

Clearly an indicator of how little #want the guy has.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 18, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I think half of a preseason game is enough to draw all the conclusions I need to.

[I’m kidding]

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 18, 2011 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

West

He’s been really good defensively.

by jthig32 on Dec 18, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

this.

I don’t care so much that he misses shots if he plays good defense and runs the point well. He did both of those.

by Tim Cato on Dec 18, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Love the Custodian

need to get myself a Cardinal jersey

by eric03tx on Dec 18, 2011 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

No market.
MrMichaelLee
Nick Young has decided to accept his 1-year, $3.7 million qualifying offer from #wizards, sources say: wapo.st/uVUUJT

by sprite on Dec 18, 2011 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

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AP The Associated Press
BREAKING NEWS: North Korea says supreme leader Kim Jong Il has died

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 18, 2011 9:07 PM CST reply actions  

Third son.

His second (the previous heir apparent) was removed from his position as successor because he tried to visit Disneyland in Japan.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 18, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

KJU is reputed to be even more unstable than his father. This should be...fun.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 18, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

yup

BreakingNews Breaking News
S. Korean military declares emergency alert following death of Kim Jong-il-@YonhapNews

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 18, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on, guys!

It’s a peace-loving worker’s paradise!

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 18, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure how they looked on tv

but live: Carter looked old and not good, Roddy looked springy again and Khloe looked manbearpiggish.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 18, 2011 10:02 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

thought Carter looked fine

he attacked a lot, got to the basket. I was worried after his stint in Phoenix that he had become just a jumpshooter, but tonight anyway he didn’t settle.

His outstanding turnover and assist rates are often overlooked aspects of his skillset. If he’s driving to the basket, that can be a dimension Dallas hasn’t had in a long time.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 18, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

He went to the basket consistently

and shot 4-11 with two FT attempts. That is indicative of how much explosiveness he had. His -21 in 19 minutes was also pretty remarkable. I agree with you about his intent, though.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 18, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

the shooting percentage doesn't really matter to me right now

I’ve watched several preseason games so far(basketball deprivation syndrome), and a lot of teams are clearly very rusty on jumpshots.

All four of Carter’s jumpers from 15 feet and out were missed, including some open shots he just flat out bricked. I expect that will change when he’s in midseason form. Everything else he took was right at the right at the rim, and even if he’s lost a little bit of his finishing ability, I’m happy with that shot distribution.

It looked like Carter was motivated. Say what you will about the man, but the version that actually gives a crap is pretty good. Given that the three other guys in the starting lineup are going to be Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Brendan Haywood, a guy who can actually attack the defense would be huge.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 19, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh

Terry was -12 in 9 minutes

by Jobu. on Dec 19, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

and was terrible as well

not that it means anything. I do hope they’re in somewhat decent shape, though. OKC looked physically and emotionally ready for the season.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 19, 2011 1:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I had the same reactions

Carter looks huge. Roddy was efficiently good, and DoJo looks like he should start over Carter.

by cstorm15 on Dec 20, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

the thing that spooked me

the most about carter is that he shot the ball every time he touched it. Hopefully we get to see a little more of his reputed court vision and passing skill once the offense gets settled in the coming weeks.

by Goyogringo on Dec 20, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Does it hurt?
SkinWade
Heard something tonight about Coach Ortegel that will make Mavericks fans very happy #detailscomingsoon

by sprite on Dec 18, 2011 10:55 PM CST reply actions  

He was at the AAC celebration

after the parade and was kind of in the middle of things, could definitely see that.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 18, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

who?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 19, 2011 7:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Dojo/Roddy looked great

With the condensed schedule and age of the roster, I think there will be a few injuries and “rest days” here and there. Having Roddy and Dojo as the 5th and 6th guards on the team could be vital.

I think those two are going to get chances.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 19, 2011 12:24 AM CST reply actions  

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IamaGM IamaGM.com
Knicks increase wheelchair-accessible courtside seats from $300 to $2850 dlvr.it/11CNSk

by octoberty on Dec 19, 2011 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

Damn. He makes 2 mil this season. MJ's got him probably.
The Associated Press reports that Bismack Biyombo, the No. 7 pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, has paid his $1.5 million buy-out with Spanish club Fuenlabrada, meaning the Congolese big man is free to join the Charlotte Bobcats in time for the 2011-12 season.

by sprite on Dec 19, 2011 8:26 AM CST reply actions  

Someone I've always been intrigued by...
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN web link to Mavs’ forthcoming signing of shotblocker Sean Williams: es.pn/vBerev

by octoberty on Dec 19, 2011 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

Hope they come back for him
The Mavericks, sources said, initially pursued veteran big man Joel Przybilla for the role along with the Los Angeles Clippers and other teams. Przybilla, though, is taking his time to choose his next team after a variety of knee troubles. With no true center behind Brendan Haywood and the still-developing Ian Mahinmi, Dallas wanted to move faster.

by sprite on Dec 19, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

he looked pretty awful coming back last year

I am skeptical he has value left as an NBA player. Even the shot-blocking appeared absent from his repertoire.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

We’ll see but I’m pretty skeptical. I wasn’t too fired up about that prospect.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 19, 2011 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Depends on if the medicals check out

he was shut down after five games with the Bobcats to do more work on his knee. If he’s healthy, he’s be a nice get on defense.

by sprite on Dec 19, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Ready for the draft tonight.

Spreadsheets have been created.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

Kevin Love

Kevin Love
Kevin Love
Kevin Love
Kevin Love

by Longhorn on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Love won't make it past me if he's available...

No matter where I pick.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

As with any draft

I really hope I don’t get the first pick. Much rather have the last pick.

by sprite on Dec 19, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I always want a top pick...

The truly elite players are there and you can get good value as it goes.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

After making my spreadsheet

And weighting the players on the various categories… it amazes me how few high quality SG there are.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I never play fantasy sports

but is it too late to sign up or whatever?

by GutenDirk on Dec 19, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Prokhorov
RT @SportandoBasket: Source confirms Andrei Kirilenko on his way to leave CSKA Moscow and join New Jersey Nets to sign multi-year deal

by sprite on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

Hard to say no when you want your family to live.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Not like this though

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 19, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Fuck you.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I benched him for Felix.

Since Murray was out and I thought he could have a big day vs TB. I was kinda right…

If I’d have played him I’d only be down by 4 points with Akers and Pitt Def left…

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 19, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

This is why I like only having 2 RBs on my roster. No decision to make.

I picked up both off the wire a few weeks ago… Spiller and Hillis. Also started Fasano and D. Thomas… making 4 starters I picked up off waivers in the last couple of weeks. I’m rolling with them the rest of the way too.

by octoberty on Dec 19, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Luck.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 19, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

They're making the playoffs.
ESPNSteinLine
Just going up on ESPN online: Sources say Nuggets and restricted free agent Arron Afflalo agree to five-year deal in excess of $43 million

by sprite on Dec 19, 2011 6:46 PM CST reply actions  

Que?

it’s a solid move. Hence the playoff proclamation. Does leave them little room to lock up Gallo or Lawson though.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh I thought you were being sarcastic.

There have been people on here talking about how overrated he is

by GutenDirk on Dec 20, 2011 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I tuned out

this is cray. And it looked like he got dinged earlier

MFollowill
I dont understand why Kobe came back in this game w/ the Lakers down 25 & around 7 mins to go. Does he need the work that badly?

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

No Phil, no Lamar, divorce....

He’s gonna do whatever he wants, full-on honey badger mode. And not in a good way, it’s gonna be a mess if they struggle.

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 20, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

He's going to murder him
KevinDing
Mike Brown: “Defensively, Kobe was just as guilty as everybody else.”

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

not good

not good

Just watch, Kobe’s going to force a trade…

by Longhorn on Dec 20, 2011 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Ooooo my

Is he that good? I hadn’t heard of him before this off-season

by Jobu. on Dec 20, 2011 1:33 AM CST up reply actions  

he's not as good as he's being paid now

Not yet, anyway.

He’s pretty insanely athletic, though. I like him a lot, but there is the lingering doubt that his BBIQ will ever let him play up to his potential(seconds before the crazy dunk he had an awful goaltending after a foul on a Kobe drive).

by Alan Smithee on Dec 20, 2011 2:43 AM CST up reply actions  

billups and butler

will work great as spot up shooters in that starting lineup, with all the Paul/Griffin pick and rolls. And then they’ll bring Mo Williams off the bench.

I don’t want to get too carried away…but a part of me thinks very suddenly the Clippers and Thunder are the class of the West. Not sold on the Grizzlies but maybe they’ll be there too.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 20, 2011 2:49 AM CST up reply actions  

The horror
RT @richarddeitsch: ESPN/ABC has a new NBA pregame show cast: Jon Barry, Broussard, Magic and Wilbon.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 9:19 AM CST reply actions  

Hollinger's top 8.

1. OKC
2. DEN
3. SA
4. LAC
5. LAL
6. DAL
7. POR
8. MEM

Excerpt:

Obviously, a Kidd-Carter-Terry backcourt raises some major age questions, especially given the punishing schedule this season. Between that and the fact that Brendan Haywood is their only center, you could have made a case for Dallas missing the playoffs entirely — except for two talent infusions to last season’s group. The first is Rodrigue Beaubois’ return after an injury-plagued 2010-11, which should provide some scoring punch when the veterans’ legs are dead. The second comes via the gifting of Lamar Odom from the Lakers.

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by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 11:55 AM CST reply actions  

Lol, Hollinger

Like Dirk can miss the playoffs

by Jobu. on Dec 20, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

With Dallas I'm far more concerned about the new pieces

and how long it will take Rick to figure out a rotation with so many strange fits.

Hollinger has been beating the age drum against the Mavs for five years now. I guess he’ll just keep doing it until he gets it right.

by jthig32 on Dec 20, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh look it's you.

Adding fuck-all to the discussion, as usual.

The Spurs, from what I see, fit their main rotation from Ginobili, who is 34; Duncan, who is 35; Parker, who is 29; Jefferson, who is 31; Bonner, who is 31. If someone’s going to be unimpressed by the Mavs on account of their age, the Spurs are placing a lot on those five guys. Yeah, Blair is 22, Leonard is 20, Neal is 27 and Splitter is 26. But I doubt playing them enough to keep the age of the first five from being a concern, would make the Spurs a 3 seed.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 22, 2011 6:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Looks like they won't amnesty him.

Nevertheless Hollinger floating over the Spurs’ age issues in anointing them #3 is bizarre, unless he really really likes himself some Kawhi Leonard and DeJuan Blair.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 22, 2011 6:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Kawhi Leonard

is good, I think.

"There's a larger issue at play here: There is a big social stigma in this country against lazy, self-centered assholes." - The Onion, Are Tests Biased Against Students Who Don't Give A Shit?

by BAC on Dec 22, 2011 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't believe Parker is still only 29.

So much mileage on those legs.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 22, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Does anyone think Minn can surprise?

They have a long way to go from last year, obviously

by Jobu. on Dec 20, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

They'll win more games and be competitive against most teams

but they won’t be in contention for a playoff spot yet.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

SA was the #1 seed last year.

I don’t really see why it’s that much of a stretch.

I wouldn’t put them there, but I don’t see why it’s laughable.

Denver at 2 is laughable.

by jthig32 on Dec 20, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Duncan is on his last leg and Ginobili is soon to be 34 and about to play 66 games in 120-130 days.

They did not address the need at C and even lost McDyess. I’m not sold on Splitter either. I don’t see them being a top 4 team this year especially with the compressed schedule.

by behindthebag on Dec 20, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

The long summer

has really helped TD. Given the schedule, Pop will have to be as cautious as ever with minutes, but the Spurs’ long-time experience of playing together (while other teams’ key players are getting used to each other) will actually be a big plus. The Spurs will be right there in the end.

by 4Him on Dec 22, 2011 5:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Rough start for the Lakers and Celtics so far. Doc-
SherrodbCSN
“I’m concerned; I’m not concerned long-term; but I am concerned short term.”- #Celtics Doc Rivers on Paul Pierce’s right heel injury.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 2:42 PM CST reply actions  

any recs

on the best way to find the Mavs 2011 playoff games archived online anywhere?

by Goyogringo on Dec 20, 2011 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

iTunes is obviously the easiest option

but you can’t get all of the Portland series, and I think one of the Lakers games is missing. The picture quality on the HD files is good, though.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

cool

I didn’t realize they were on Itunes

by Goyogringo on Dec 20, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

I’ve always streamed stuff rather than downloaded so I’m a torrent newbie andI’ve got to figure out a way to mask downloads from my ISP

by Goyogringo on Dec 20, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Really think this interview is going to take Sb Nation over the top, you guys.
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by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 5:12 PM CST reply actions  

whoa re you interviewing?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 21, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Negative

most of the e-mails I get are inane like this. Just people getting the address off the regional site and sending stuff.

by sprite on Dec 21, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Rudy :(
“Rudy Fernandez is J.R. Smith without the insanity.” – George Karl

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 5:25 PM CST reply actions  

And yet

you guys gave me hell because I didn’t like swapping him and Brewer for Vince. Homers!

by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I like swapping Vince for Brewer.

I like letting Roddy and Dojo play. There’s value in developing those assets.

by octoberty on Dec 20, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I like letting Roddy play

undecided about Dominique still, but it’s immaterial to my point anyway. Vince replaces Rudy in the rotation. The addition of West is what will cost those two minutes more than anything else.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

No West or Terry tonight

maybe we can finally see Roddy at point some.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Vince isn't strictly a SG, though. He's your backup SF.

If Rudy was a SG/SF type, he would probably still be here.

by octoberty on Dec 20, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Rudy

just thought it was an overreaction and I took issue with the Deron part of the post more than Rudy.
I even said on the regional site that I wanted Rudy to be the starting two guard this season and was surprised they traded him.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Deron was a whole other thing, as was the Chandler decision

And I’m not sure how it could be an overreaction when all I said was that I was underwhelmed by the moves/additions outside of bringing in Odom. Saying you’re underwhelmed by adding Vince and selling off Rudy/Brewer sure didn’t seem controversial when I typed it, but it was in this environment.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Rudy

was apparently whining behind the scenes before even getting to Dallas about the prospects of having to compete for minutes and not having a defined role.

I don’t care how well he does in Denver, that kind of attitude just won’t work with Carlisle.

by jthig32 on Dec 20, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I have to think that entered into the situation and they really should have been straight on that before they traded for him in the first place. Of course, the response to that is that he probably wasn’t complaining until Carter was signed. It’s hard to know with his weird, moody personality, but the impression I got was that he was excited about things up to that point.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 20, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

But even if they don’t sign Carter, what are the odds that Rudy spends the whole year starting or getting the same minute distribution?

When they traded for him I hoped that he would recognize how much better our system would fit him and stop being so hung up on his “role”, and I can only assume the Mavs did as well. But apparently that wasn’t the case.

by jthig32 on Dec 20, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Monta's in trouble.
SpearsNBAYahoo
Boltuch accuses Ellis of sending “dozens of pictures” of “flagrant sexual contact” to an then-Warriors female employee from Nov. ‘10-Jan.’11

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 5:54 PM CST reply actions  

Hmm.
EKS_MavsNBA
Probable starters tonight: J-Kidd, DOMINIQUE JONES, Shawn Marion, Dirk and Brendan Haywood.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 7:04 PM CST reply actions  

Preseason

but that center position is a mess right now.

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 8:10 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

like, Tyson Chandler is really lighting it up right now in NY

by Longhorn on Dec 20, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

good dude

wish him luck

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.

by knockoutking on Dec 21, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

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EKS_MavsNBA
Odom says he was setting an example when he ran to Randle’s defense after Collison set a hard screen on the smallest player on the court

by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I'm playing Longhorn this week right?

He’s going to get crushed.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 21, 2011 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

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IamaGM IamaGM.com
Paul Allen hints that he would sell the Blazers if forced to rebuild again dlvr.it/11Z8Xc

by octoberty on Dec 21, 2011 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

After preseason

A rough, probably wrong guess at what minute allocation might look like. Assuming that with a condensed schedule Carlisle will try to dial down most of the old guys’ minutes:

PG Kidd 20-West 13-Beaubois 10-Jones 5
SG Carter 10-Terry 28-Beaubois 5-Jones 5
SF Marion 24-Carter 16-Kidd 8
PF Nowitzki 26-Odom 14-Marion 4-Wright 4
C Haywood 20-Odom 16-Dirk 6-Wright 6

So you have Dirk 32, Odom 30, Kidd 28, Marion 28, Terry 28, Carter 26, Haywood 20, Roddy 15, West 13, Jones 10, Wright 10.

I thought Haywood looked pretty bad in the two games. Unless he starts dominating on defense, I fear he’s such an offensive liability that Carlisle is going to go to smallball lineups a lot.

My one big guess here is that Wright is going to steal the Ianimal’s minutes. Carlisle said he saw Wright as more of a “5/4 than a 4/5”, perhaps hinting at his future usage. While Wright was terrific in garbage time, Mahinmi shot a combined 5/18 and nearly fouled out in the first game in 25 minutes. I think what you sacrifice in bulk you make up for in skill, polish and versatility.

I think the offense is going to focus more on stretching the defense, which they’ll be able to do with Odom/Dirk/Wright at center, drawing opposing bigs out and opening up lanes for Marion and Kidd(two outstanding rebounders for their positions) to gobble up boards.

These are just projections, but one thing they obviously don’t account for is injuries, and I think there’s a good chance that West and Carter will miss time this year, giving Roddy and DoJo more burn than what I have marked down. Both had spectacular moments in the preseason, and some infusion of youth is going to be pretty important in the back-to-back onslaught that is imminent. I also have serious reservations about the perimeter defense with Kidd and Carter starting, and having some speed to counter quick guards will be useful, especially when you’re playing so small in the frontcourt. Jones and Beaubois have a better shot of staying in front of their men, and getting back in transition defense(where the Thunder destroyed Dallas in these two games).

by Alan Smithee on Dec 21, 2011 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Couple things

I don’t think there’s any way they roll out an 11 man rotation.

And I don’t think Wright is even remotely close to pushing Ian out of the rotation. One garbage time game in the preseason just isn’t going to do that. Maybe it happens over the course of the season, but for now I think Ian is unquestionably the backup.

by jthig32 on Dec 22, 2011 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

it's a guess and also partly what I'd like to see

If there was ever a year to have an 11 man rotation, it’s this one, right? The oldest team in the league, a brutal schedule.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 22, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

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@ESPNSteinLine: Just going up on http://ESPN.com: Rockets and Samuel Dalembert reach terms on two-year contract.

by octoberty on Dec 21, 2011 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

Meh.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 21, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

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ChrisMannixSI
Free agent guard DeShawn Stevenson is close to signing a one-year deal with New Jersey, league source tells SI

by sprite on Dec 21, 2011 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Not really.

I think the flexibility of having an open roster spot is much more valuable to the team than having Randle as the 15th guy and 5th PG.

by behindthebag on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

And completely fucked.
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @Al_Iannazzone: Uh oh. #Nets center Brook Lopez broke a bone in his right foot. He’ll have surgery tomorrow (YIKES)

by octoberty on Dec 22, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

So.. with Roddy having the same injury and bigs usually taking longer to heal

he’s probably out until at least March and probably the year.

Saved Otis from himself.

by sprite on Dec 22, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup.

I’d be surprised if he’s back before April. I don’t really understand the 4-6 week time frame. Especially not for a big guy.

by behindthebag on Dec 22, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

That throws quite the wrench

in this season. Could send things hurdling in a number of different directions.

by Brett Perryman on Dec 22, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's look at this lineup

Deron
Morrow
Damian James
Shelden Williams
Johan Petro

It’s a good year to suck with this draft. They got that going for them.

by sprite on Dec 22, 2011 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

Deron is going to kill himself this year.

They’re going to end up with a Harrison Barnes or a Perry Jones III for their troubles.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 22, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

10 bucks says this guy has more of an impact this year than Brandan Wright.
DwainPrice Dwain Price
New Mavs center Sean Williams got emotional during his first post-practice interview with the local media.

by octoberty on Dec 22, 2011 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

I think I would have rather taken Deshawn at this price over VC.
The New Jersey Nets have reached agreement with veteran guard DeShawn Stevenson on a one-year, $2.5 million contract, sources told ESPN The Magazine’s Chris Broussard on Thursday.

by behindthebag on Dec 22, 2011 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

WAIT CHUCK HAYES DOESN'T HAVE A HEART PROBLEM

GIVE HIM BACK TO ME

Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen

by Schultzy on Dec 22, 2011 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

x

IamaGM IamaGM.com
Jazz trade Mehmet Okur to the Nets for a draft pick dlvr.it/11nLGB

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 22, 2011 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

The dream is over...

DeronWilliams Deron Williams
“@MichaeldWhite: @DeronWilliams Dwill to money is back in business” glad to be playing with my boy Memo again!!!!

Que sera, sera.

by scoop16 on Dec 22, 2011 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

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