Yuesday Morning Rangers Update
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 20, 2011 8:01 AM CST
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Since that dark day when our homegrown C.J. Wilson signed with the rival team, and took the best hitter we might have personally witnessed in Albert Pujols with him, the talk from every pundit, local or otherwise, was about how the Rangers perhaps didn't have the funds to strike back. A true warning shot from Anaheim would just have to be suffered as it appeared suddenly too expensive to muster a riposte.
It wasn't just unfounded worry that fueled our suspicions. We heard from local writers about how the Rangers were going to focus on internal extensions instead of having their hand forced to make a big splash. We heard from national writers about how the Rangers might have less cash flow than everyone in baseball was expecting.
Upon the day all bids were due for Yu Darvish -- a talent scouted heavily by the Rangers and a long-rumored Plan A target -- we even heard that the team might not place a bid altogether lest they have to find the cash to pay for the postage.
Guess what? The Rangers lie. The Rangers sandbag. The Rangers smokescreen. The Rangers deceive. Sometimes the Rangers even monetarily do what it takes to get the guy they want. And, if Darvish pitches in Major Leagues in 2011,--Surprise!--it will be as a Texas Ranger.
All about Yu:
National articles-
Jeff Passan broke the news that the Rangers had won the bidding. And you're getting this whole paragraph from him because man am I impressed with how the front office handled this:
This is a bonanza signing for the Rangers, a stunning rejoinder to the Los Angeles Angels' $331.5 million Albert Pujols-C.J. Wilson perfecta. Just when the two-time defending American League champions looked vulnerable, they sandbagged their way into the posting auction, let the world believe the Toronto Blue Jays had placed the high figure on Darvish and ended the process having spent more money than on any previous posting by about $600,000.
- Ken Rosenthal enthusiastically writes about the Rangers going all in for Darvish.
- Scott Miller says "new superpower" Rangers are rolling the dice on Darvish.
- Anthony Castrovince writes that the Rangers are going big but also going brave.
- Richard Justice thinks the Rangers have made a worthy gamble on Darvish.
- Gambling terms!
- Paul White wrote an article on the Rangers winning the negotiation rights to Darvish for USA Today. I'm linking it because it has the worst Yu pun I've seen yet: "A Texas Yu-step"
- Jonah Keri wrote an interesting piece on what Darvish could be. It is from a couple of days ago when people were still assuming the Blue Jays were going to win the bidding.
- In an ESPN Insider article, Dan Szymborski takes a look at Darvish's potential value over the next several seasons if he pitches for the Rangers.
- Back in early November, Keith Law ranked his top 50 free agents. Though technically not a free agent, Darvish ranked third on his list behind Pujols and Prince Fielder. Law: "He is built like an ace, with ace stuff ..."
- CNN/SI's Cliff Corcoran takes a look at the history of pitchers migrating from Japan to MLB and ponders how Darvish might fare.
Local pieces-
- T.R. Sullivan reports on the Rangers winning the bid on Darvish and has quotes from a fairly animated and probably very satisfied Jon Daniels. The guy flew all the way out to Japan, after all.
- Anthony Andro echoes Sullivan's piece but notes that Daniels was pleased that the ownership group opened the purse strings to allow him to make a run at Darvish.
- Drew Davison notes that Daniels found the news to be "very exciting." He anticipated excitement for the following: 1. The Organization. 2. The Fans. 3. The Community.
- Never fear, though. Gerry Fraley is here to poop in your punch bowl. Fraley's blog post is titled, "Like C.J. Wilson, Yu Darvish doesn't hide his personality" just to prepare you for when the DFW media takes to disliking to him.
- J-JT writes that the bid shows that the Rangers are now a big-market team who wants to win.
- Richard Durrett writes that, with all the gambling jargon being thrown out there on Darvish, it's never wise to bet against the Rangers these days.
- In none-Yu-ings, Durrett has quotes from Daniels about how the Rangers still intend to explore long-term deals with "the core."
Blog updates-
- 'Duk over at the Big League Stew writes about the Rangers' winning the bid while keeping their poker face throughout the process. He links to LSB, so I thought it would be nice to return the favor.
- Paul Swydan at Fangraphs writes about the Rangers potentially pulling off the feat of getting younger while maintaining, or potentially improving, the quality of their rotation.
- Japanese baseball enthusiast Patrick Newman of the NPB Tracker has a few bullet-pointed thoughts on the Darvish posting results.
- Our beloved rival Jeff Sullivan has his thoughts on the Rangers winning the rights to Darvish.
- You should read Joey Matches' "Yu Darvish Apocalypse Live Chat" archive over at BBTIA. It is a rollicking adventure.
Finally-
Oh man, just watch this seven minute video of Yu Darvish highlights. Watch it all.
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Who won the bid guessing game?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Here's a good Yu FAQ by Goldstein on BP
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15705
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
behind paywall FWIW
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
BP sub worth it for those that don't have one.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
+1
i <3 that site
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
If they took paypal I would
but I’m not going to go buy dollars every month just for baseball stuff.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
solution:
have someone in the US pay for it, you paypal the money to them heh
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Or BP could just get with the 21st century
It’s all digital, mannnnnn
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
This is a weeks worth of stories
Makes up for “crickets”
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 8:08 AM CST via mobile reply actions
We still had like 300 posts about crickets
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Crickets, Garza/Gio
Same thing
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 8:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The first rule of Angrydome is you must be Angry.
Crickets didn’t do it for most of us, so we had to find something else.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
heh
Do not listen to anything ever. People will lie to you. People will lie to you on purpose!
I certainly feel like a patsy. I had truly given up Yu to the Jays in my heart.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Yeah, I didn't really think there was any way we'd get him
At least not until the very end, when the Blue Jays rumors suddenly died and all anyone was getting was crickets.
I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?
Longest. Morning. Update. Ever.
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Darn! These will take me all day to read!
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Lost in all this...
How Yu will look in powder blues.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 20, 2011 8:10 AM CST reply actions
Underpants soiled.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
JD's Next Move: McCutchen
Harrison, Koji, Perez, Villanueva for McCutchen
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Not gonna trade Koji...
Going to get more Japanese pitchers.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
>Sign Kuroda
>Move Feliz back to the bullpen
>FIVE CLOSERS
I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?
Our starters will only have to pitch until like the 5th then.
That will be one sick pen.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 20, 2011 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
does this mean we also resign the willow of the bullpen?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
lolwut
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
I couldn't get any work done today
Too busy swooning over Yu.
So many people over here pessimistic about Yu pitching in the bigs and in Arlington.
(Koreans don’t have much love for Japanese people)
Can’t wait for season to begin so that Yu can prove them all wrong.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 20, 2011 8:12 AM CST reply actions
Primarily because of the Japanese colonization of Korea in the early 20th century
and history of invasions that go much further back than that.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
"comfort" women and all that stuff doesn't help
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
heh
how much time do you have?
From 1910 to 1945, the Japanese Empire enforced policies which aimed to erase Korean culture and language, in order to Japanize the Korean people
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:24 AM CST up reply actions
read some of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule
It is estimated that by 1910 perhaps 7 to 8 percent of all arable land was under Japanese control. This ratio increased steadily; during the years 1916, 1920, and 1932, the ratio of Japanese land ownership increased from 36.8 to 39.8 to 52.7 percent. Conversely, the ratio of Korean ownership decreased from 63.2 to 60.2 to 47.3 percent. The level of tenancy was similar to that of farmers in Japan itself; however, in Korea, the landowners were mostly Japanese, while the tenants were all Koreans. As was often the case in Japan itself, tenants were forced to pay over half their crop as rent, forcing many to send wives and daughters into factories or prostitution so they could pay taxes
Other means of cultural suppression included altering public monuments, including several well-known temples, palaces, scripts, memorials, and statues. Songs and poems, such as “Poem of celebrating for Kamikaze” written by Seo Jeong-ju, were re-written to adore the Japanese Empire. Carved monuments underwent alterations to the Chinese characters to delete or change part of their meaning.
Japanese colonial authorities took many photographs of scenes of abject poverty in Korea, but did not take a single photograph of the main palace at Gyeongbokgung.71
The primary building of Gyeongbokgung was demolished and the Japanese General Government Building was built in its exact location. The Japanese colonial authorities destroyed 85 percent of all the buildings in Gyeongbokgung.72 Sungnyemun, a virtual symbol of Korea, was altered by the addition of large, Shinto-style golden horns near the roofs (later removed by the South Korean government after independence).
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
here is how bad it was:
After the end of Japanese Occupation, Japanese cultural products such as music, film, and books were banned in both North and South Korea. The boycott was lifted in South Korea starting in 1998
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
Hahah.
Yeeah, this could take a while…
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
Asians all look alike?
Wikipedia is the truth?
most of the time, yeah
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
so I had all but written Yu off.....pleasantly surprised
in fact I ran in the other room and yelled at my wife “WE GOT YU !” she was like WTF?…cs, b
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
I told my wife we got a pitcher that has posed nude in magazines
She opens google images and asks for his name…Looks for a couple seconds and says “I wan’t CJ back” csb
hahaha.....thats hilarious
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
2013 Rotation
Darvish
Holland
Feliz
Ogando
Perez
YESPLS
by mh420800 on Dec 20, 2011 8:19 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
So we'll have four CY caliber pitchers in the rotation?
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 20, 2011 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
Hamels, Darvish, Holland, Feliz, Perez
Sounds like five to me. Maybe not Perez
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 8:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
4 CY's
and a ROY….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 20, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
HHHNNNNNNNGGGG!!
I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson
by Axe Em Rangers on Dec 20, 2011 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
What I like most about this list?
We could keep Perez because we didn’t have to trade for Gonzalez or Garza… homegrown talent baby.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
best part of getting Yu is we keep Perez
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Right.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
high five
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
with a chest bump
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Jump and turn for a hip-bumb
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 8:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
This!!! Sooooo much this!!!
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 8:30 AM CST up reply actions
i love you man !
lol.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Heh.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We love Yu too
Darvish "loves" the Rangers and looks forward to joining a winning organization, according to one baseball source.
by sprite on Dec 20, 2011 8:20 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
It will be a great PR image the day Darvish dons a Stetson.
As good as Prince Fielder would've looked in a 4XL Rangers' uniform, we all know you win with pitching. -- JJT
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
They should recreate that fantastic Nolan pic if he ends up being what we think he will be.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
That would be epic
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
That was the one quote out of all the articles I noticed, too
I thought I’d read some scuttlebutt weeks ago that he preferred Toronto because of its more-familiar climate and sizable Japanese population, and worried about the heat here.
Great to read otherwise.
But then who couldn’t love the Rangers the last few years?
These make good pies.
And Jerry Layne sucks goats.
by Thought_Experiment on Dec 20, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Some people I know are skeptical about Yu
They’d rather have Prince Fielder. I admit, I’m still a little on the fence, but I trust JD, so …
Heh, just coming to post this:
#buzzkill @cgperez @lonestarball nah, the downside is that now the rangers can’t go after Fielder. Can’t believe people are hap
It’s not that I think the Fielder lovers are idiots, I just strongly disagree.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
Sure,
but one does not equate to the other.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
=|
.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
i wanted him here but now they strengthen the roto a bit and I'm perfectly fine w/ not having him here
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
I fully admit that I kinda wanted Fielder.
But it was mostly for the personal entertainment factor than any reasoned thought. I just think it would be fun as hell to watch him mash the fuck out of the ball in the Ballpark.
i want a short year, high AAV contract for him
i want him here.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
id go 5 easily
probably 6
then again i am a big believer
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
Depends on AAV.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah,
but there’s a big difference between $20M and $25M.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
I want a short year, low AAV contract for him
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
eh?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Well if we're just talking about what we want
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Yu scares me less than Fielder.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I'm sooo glad we're not going after fielder
by MikeEl on Dec 20, 2011 9:38 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Whats wrong with Fielder
That big left handed bat hitting 5th after Beltre.
Kins, Elvis, Hambone, Beltre, Fielder, Young, Cruz, Napoli, < splooge >
lineup of orgasms.
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
now we know exactly what the FO thinks about CJ
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
by shock00 on Dec 20, 2011 8:21 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Well said!!
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
So, who gets Prince now?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Ham Fighters
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
That would leave the A's as the only team in the AL West
who did not make a big move this off-season. Hmm.
by The Best Micah on Dec 20, 2011 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
Standing pat
It’s the new market inefficiency
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
Over the weekend
Not sure if it was Friday or Saturday.
by The Best Micah on Dec 20, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
Rangers of course.
We now know the FO is good at bluffing, so why not add Fielder too?
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Love comments from guys who apparently don't even follow baseball.
Random comment at the bottom of the CBS article:
The Don Rey December 20, 2011 9:01 amDid I miss something? I have never even heard of this guy. Why would anyone spend big money on some no-name???
Are you actually a baseball fan, dude?
I saw some comments last night
that were like, “Think of all the families that could be fed with that money!” and all that stuff.
Angels rivalry
the budding Angels-Rangers rivalry is getting a lot of play in the national media suddenly, I like that.
I say keep the players, don’t trade away the amazing and wonderful depth the club has unless the piece coming back is truly a game-changer (like McCutchen or someone of that ilk). Keep Lowe-Feldman-Uehara in the 6th-7th innings, with Adams, Ogando, Nathan in the 8th-9th, what a solid pen, with lots of depth in the minors on the way with live arms.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I don't think there's anything budding about it.
It’s been going on for awhile now, it’s just that nobody really cared until now.
I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?
to regulars here, maybe
but until the Rangers won the division there was no rivarly except in our minds. Even after they won the division once it wasn’t a big time rivarly. The last two years, with signing Vlad, then the Napoli trade, then the Pujols-Wilson-Darvish trifecta, now it’s something that resonates with people who aren’t here every day.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
It actually goes back a few years...
Really began to heat up in late ’06, when Padilla/Buck got tossed for HBP, after both benchs had been warned. Then Feldman pluncked Adam Kennedy, and both benchs cleared. I maybe wrong about the year.
by awillis111 on Dec 20, 2011 12:47 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
When did Lackey get tossed for throwing behind
the first batter of the game twice?
Why don't you have a nice big cup of shut the fuck up? - Lisa W 3/4/2011
Yes, both to Kinsler.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
'09
first series v. Angels in RBiA, bot 1st, 1st batter, 1st pitch behind Kinsler’s back, 2nd pitch in the ribs. 2 pitches and Lackey was tossed.
by awillis111 on Dec 20, 2011 2:46 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
and no one paid attention
outside of TX and a few people in LAA-la land.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Yeah
I see no reason to make any changes that aren’t making huge improvements to the team, which means elite talent that’s not just here for the short term.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I was hoping if Ogando goes back to the bullpen
that I never have to see Mark Lowe in a Ranger uniform again
I don't have a problem with this.
Though I don’t have anything against Mark Lowe.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
In his defense
He probably shouldn’t have been on either world series roster. Thats the 2 memories I have off him. Pouring gas on the fire v. SF and of course game 6.
Mark Lowe is pretty good
You should be happy that he’s in a Rangers uniform
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
There will be room for him
Adams
Nathan
Uehara
Feldman
Tateyama
Ogando
Lowe
The only problem is that you’re left without a lefty, but if Ogando doesn’t go to the bullpen, then that leaves room for a lefty.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
They will sign a lefty
And probably trade one of Lowe/Ueharah/Tateyama. I think one of Feliz/Ogando will be in the pen.
i have no problem with lowe in the pen
he is far from horrible. in fact he had a better xFIP than feliz and was a better pitcher than feldman lasty ear.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Filthy baseball word porn
He issued just 36 free passes against 276 strikeouts this season
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
(that's seven and a half strikeouts to every walk, for those not savvy with the calculator like me)
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
(ands that's ridiculous for those who don't know baseball like me and jam
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 8:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 8:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 8:28 AM CST reply actions
Is there any chance we may run with a 6 man rotation?
Yu is familiar with it, it would keep innings down and you could drop a struggling starter at any time. Has anyone in recent memory tried it?
I like this Idea
Would definitely keep the innings pitched down….
6 man roto- average of 27 games pitched
5 man roto- 32 games pitched
that mean adding that 6th man allows for 5 less games per pitcher….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
5th best starter getting 32 >>> 6th best starter getting 27
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
clear now? no
clear after ST? possibly.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
that would really depend
on the difference between your 5th and sixth starter…..IMO
if the difference is small enough, wouldn’t the added rest to all your starters (especially come playoff time) make up the differance?
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 20, 2011 8:43 AM CST up reply actions
there is a reason that most people dont do this.
typically, you are going to have a drop off.
and lets not act like we have 6 proven really good MLB starters. (we dont)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
you are probably right
though if Perez is called up that could change
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 20, 2011 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
no. it doesnt.
at all.
how often do rookies come into MLB and put up sub 4.00 xFIPs?
24 have since 06 (in 120 IP)
bump it to 150 and you get 9
for example pineda last year had a 3.53 xFIP
ogando had 3.89
brett anderson had 3.56
jaime garcia had 3.71
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions
Won't happen.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
curious what you think happens w/ feliz this year
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
Unless the end of creation occurs...
He’s in the rotation and a 2-5 WAR pitcher. I’d guess high 2’s to low 3’s.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
That's not very optimistic at all.
High 2 to low 3 WAR pitcher is MORP.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
They were both over 3.5
I’m saying 2.8 to 3.2.
Could be worse… could be better.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
For a guy with one of the best fastballs in the league?
Not particularly.
It could be lower than 2.8… it could be higher than 3.2. Feliz has the stuff to dominate… recent memory clouds a bit on this.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
2 things keep me thinking some people may be expected more than they'll get out of him
1 – His offspeed stuff hasn’t been very consistent. Not sure how effective he will be in games where the offspeed isn’t working with just a fastball that he has shown some issues locating at times.
2 – He will likely be somewhat limited in innings.
Same is true of Derek Holland.
I’m expecting similar numbers to Holland last year in less innings.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
The Rangers defense really raises pitchers' floors, right now
Feliz doesn’t give up that many HR’s.
Even if he walks 4.5/9, his K rates, and stellar defense should take care of the rest.
I’d bet if he doesn’t get to 2 WAR, that it is because of inning count.
dont be stupid.
young, good, cost controlled pitchers with high ceilings dont get traded very often at all.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
doubtful
i just think they’ll skip Feliz a few times to keep him fresh, maybe pitch Feldman instead a few times
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
yeah i think they skip him a good bit (he should be the #5)
if for no other reason than to keep his IP down
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
yes sir that would be the plan....how many innings yu think?
i’m thinkin about 140 max.
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
easy way of finding out...
look to Ogando….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 20, 2011 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
Ogando is much older....not going to happen.
they are not remotely the same.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
except they are
based on usage, etc
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions
didn't think about that
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Really?
I though they were about the same age…early to mid 20’s….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 20, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
ogando was 27 when he finally made it here
got caught up in that work visa scandel.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
ahh thats right
(Gibbs slaps himself)
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 20, 2011 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Yankees did it last season for a stretch.
Won’t happen under Nolan.
by LiamP on Dec 20, 2011 8:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like the idea...
with Darvish, Feliz, and Ogando in the rotation, but it won’t happen.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
This caught my attention
I think Darvish will sign with the Rangers, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t.
From NPB tracker. Why is it that he wouldnt be surprised?
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I also thought that it was a bit odd.
Maybe he thinks there’s a 20-30% chance Yu doesn’t sign as opposed to 5-10% like the rest of us.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
because its not a given
and he is fairly non-traditional :)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:40 AM CST up reply actions
It's not a given, but I'd be surprised if he didn't sign.
Just curious why a guy relatively close to the situation wouldn’t be surprised.
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contract
here is what Matsuzaka got back in 2006
$2M signing bonus
07:$6M, 08:$8M, 09:$8M, 10:$8M, 11:$10M, 12:$10M
It had escalators that could have increased it to 6yrs/$60M
I’m thinking 6yrs/$72M for Yu.
exchange rates are a bitch
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Dang... Who gets Fielder, now?
Jays?
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 8:43 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Heh
I just did a Google search on “$Texas,” and the first news item that came up was this:
Very excited to see what he can do in MLB. He’s a good.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
i feel confident he will be the 1st or 2nd starter this year.
i also feel comfortable he is the OD starter if they are giving him that much cash.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Post-Season Gold Colby will start the opener.
He got that vet-ren grit. Wouldn’t be surprised if Holland goes in game 2 then Yu in game 3.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
from the espn insider article
the mean projection over the next 5 years from ZiPS is 22.4 (4.48 / year)
this would make me happy
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
Yep!
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
Happy is too weak a word
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Man, I was learning to read when they were born
by The Best Micah on Dec 20, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
oh dear
I was drinking every night at the Dixie Chicken, trying to get my fill before the drinking age went up to 21.
by cracker1743 on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
25 i believe
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Perez Offer
Why don’t the Rangers use this opportunity to trade quantity to get quality. Offer Perez and some other top notch prospects to get a David Price type pitcher?
x
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by jam0152 on Dec 20, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 8 recs
You act like there's a deal like that the Rangers could make and they're not doing it.
If they could turn Perez and company for Greinke, Shields, etc., they would do it.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 20, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY HORNEDFROGS
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I'M SORRY. I BOUGHT INTO THE LIES.
SCREW ME.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 20, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
And I'm confused
are we trading ‘quantity’ or are we trading our ‘top notch prospects’? Because our top notch prospects are quality, not quantity.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Hopefully we're not playing Boston at the time
Could get confusing …
by The Best Micah on Dec 20, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
Not after Youkilis flails and misses at strike three.
All the Youks will be a sad whimper.
I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson
by Axe Em Rangers on Dec 20, 2011 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
swinging strikes
are hereby dubbed “Yusury”.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
From what I've seen of the Japanese league games
our crowds will be subdued compared to what he’s yused to.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
definitely true
I went to a game in Tokyo once, there was a very EuroSoccer feel to it, with a Japanese spin of course.
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
by TheDutchOven on Dec 20, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
Darvish has many pitches in his arsenal
I wonder how many of those he’ll actually be able to use over here.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 20, 2011 9:17 AM CST reply actions
Is Harrison getting dealt?
And, if so, for whom?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I can haz Brandon Belt?
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by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 20, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Okay, then I can haz that Giants rotation?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Going strictly off WAR, Matty H had a better season than Lincecum
WAT
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by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 20, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Harrison's 2011 was very impressive
A 4+ WAR season is nothing to be scoffed at
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 20, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
[Insert cost controlled hitter with high ceiling]
by LiamP on Dec 20, 2011 9:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Domonic Brown?
LoMo? Jesus? Just throwing names out there. I’d be interested in a guy like Brown except that the Phillies aren’t really in need of arms, to put it lightly.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Mike Stanton
but only if the Marlins throw in something else.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I'm pretty excited...
but can’t help but wonder what JD and Co will do next, since we now know the rumors of no $ are false. I don’t think there’s going to be another big deal besides hopefully an extension or two, but you really don’t know with JD.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Wonder if we have more money to make another significant move
Logic tells me no, but after Yu happened I just don’t know what to believe.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 20, 2011 9:24 AM CST up reply actions
I'm good with JD hunting someone down now on the trade market...
and getting extensions to guys like Holland, Napoli, and Kinsler.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I predict
they extend Holland and Naps, make an attempt at Hamilton and fail, and talks with Boras/Andrus go nowhere.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Sounds fine.
Just fine.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Maybe Kinsler too.
Maybe.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
yes, could happen
though I’d be careful with his. I think he’s a Rusty Greer waiting to happen, healthwise.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I wonder if he can play LF
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I don't doubt he'd be at least ok out there
but I wonder about his health meaning a declining bat and baserunner over the next few years.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I'm unconvinced he's as big of a health risk as everyone makes out
One year it was a broken bone from a hbp (I think). I don’t think he’s had the same injury twice
by MikeEl on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm talking about
3-4 years from now. If he signs an extension it would likely cover 2014 through about 2017-18 or so. I think there’s a good chance he’s banged up a lot in the last 3 years of a deal like that.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
4 years from now I would prefer him being at the end of a new 4 yr deal we gave this winter
I
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by Brian Thomas on Dec 20, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
So you'd tear up his current deal and just give him a 4 year deal?
Why when the next two years are pretty cheap for him
Call it whatever you want
And I agree, 17 for the next 2 years is a steal.
I just don’t want more than 2 years tacked on. Terry is talking about adding 4 or 5.
I wonder if we could talk him into adding 2 yrs at 15 AAV? 4/47 or so.
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by Brian Thomas on Dec 20, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
The problem with that is that right now hes currently slated to hit FA at 31 years old
So I dont think hes only going to sign a 2 year extension. I think right now it would take a 4-5 year deal to lock him up otherwise we probably should just accept that hes gone after 2013
I could go along with that
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Thought he just got a new deal before 2011?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I see now it was only through 2012.
I agree then.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Yu mad Rosenthal?
Those financial issues that I wrote about last week — the ones that I reported might steer the Rangers away from the Darvish bidding — were legitimate, sources say. But clearly, something changed.
Perhaps the Rangers were sandbagging, trying to create the perception that they would refrain from a major bid; they would not be the first team to engage in such a practice. Or perhaps ownership simply looked at the big picture and said, "We’re in."
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ohh he mad
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
At least Rosenthal cares enough to try and defend his wrong reporting.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Perhaps?
They were sandbagging or Rosenthal just got bad information…I’m thinking he got bad information. The FO never lets on about their business…if they did it certainly wouldn’t be about not having any money coming off of two WS appearances, record attendance and a TV deal.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
JD just said on the radio
That ownership went “above and beyond” on this one which leads me to believe they went out of pocket for this posting cost
Well a 52 million dollar one time payment
likely isn’t something any non Yankees/Red Sox budget can easily handle.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
ownership invested another $52M in the franchise
I don’t think the posting fee will effect the budget at all.
Merry Christmas from Bob and Ray!
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
Then kudos to the ownership group....
Also, if that’s the case, I now wonder just how that affects the budget….if the ownership just said “get it done” and handed him a check, would that be considered “outside” the budget and just an expense taken on by the ownership group?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
It makes me wonder if this posting fee is what Davis I believe was referring to when he said they would be investing up to 60 million of their own money
A lot of us thought that meant 15 mil a year into the payroll but this could have been what he was talking about as a plan A and then if we lost this they would have done that
If that's the case, maybe they are not done?
Instead of adding approx. $20 to $25 mil (posting fee and salary) to the budget, only the contract portion would be in the budget ($10/12 mil)…
I have no idea….all I know is that I love that they were able to do this….my how things change….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I figure Yu will get close to what we were offering Buehrle
hopefully that leaves room for Prince still
PERHAPS?
only PERHAPS?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
I can't believe...
how pathetic you’d have to be to go over to Halo Heaven and kiss their fans asses by telling them they’ve had a better offseason than the Rangers while whining about how you were banned from LSB.
But more importantly, I find it hilarious that Angels fans are laughing about how the Rangers spent ‘so much money’ on someone like Darvish after they just got done handing a 32 year old 250 mil. Yay stupidity!
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Dec 20, 2011 9:36 AM CST reply actions 11 recs
Was that grounds for a perma-ban?
I hope so. I’ve never engaged in conversation with the guy, but I absolutely hate going into morning threads only to see them completely derailed by the same fucking clown.
Honey Badger don't give a shit!
he banned?
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Until GoET remembers that he banned JW....
I’m hoping for selective memory or amnesia….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
heh lets stop talking about it then
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Talking about what?
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
the banning of a certain person, and someone remembering it
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
by shock00 on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dang it! You missed my feeble attempt at humor.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
fuck me
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
this conversation took an awkward turn.
They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin
by JimCrankshaft on Dec 21, 2011 6:03 AM CST up reply actions
face palm here
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
i'm not good today
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Yeah t ball
He’s got to go do all his shopping today
A burden should never be something out of your control.
heh dont remind me
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
What a dick!
Honey Badger don't give a shit!
by ILikePizza on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I think he's immune from perma-bans
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Who was this?
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
by SonnyKoufaxLSU on Dec 20, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Stupid Angels fans are....
wait…that’s redundant…..
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
who did this?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
I'll let you guess the author...
Notorious Texas Ranger fan here…I think the Angels have had the superior off-season.
Last year Chatwood and Piniero made 49 starts for the Angels. In 2012, CJ (who you will love) will get 33 of those starts.
And then there’s that Pujols guy…you did well.
As for us…I’m very skeptical that Darvish can survive in Texas much less replace our ace.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
the hate for JD just oozes out of this...
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
But...but...but.... he gave JD an A- !!!!!
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
He earlier referred to CJ as the Angels "Ace," apparently forgetting about Weaver and Haren, but relying on, you guessed it, road ERA!
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
why, why, why
are we bringing this up here? Leave it be and let it be gone.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
This board can't live with or without him.
You know that already t ball.
by lost in space on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I think we should at least be given the opportunity to find out.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Heh
“Josey Wales, I wish I could quit you.”
— Lone Star Ball
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
heh
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
i bet i get banned over there in 3..2...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
by knockoutking on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
So much starting pitching...
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Yu mad AA?
MikeCormack
AA on budget/payroll: “I have what I have available and I’m going to make that work.”
Heard Thad Levine this morning on MLB radio
Nothing earthshaking.
They are aware that Japanese pitchers usually come over and are great for 2-3 years and then fall off cliff.
They feel Yu is different – different build – coming over younger
This was plan all along, though they acted with more urgency after AA did their thing.
Had a scenario where they could get both Yu and CJ but never thought it was realistic
No more moves until they get Yu signed.
Looking forward to spending New Years in Japan
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
No more moves until they get Yu signed.
Is he saying they are not in the Prince market now? (If they ever were.)
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
He's planting Ninja seeds.
"Napoli is Al Fucking Swearingen, pissing out the dull lump of Angel hubris from his penile shaft like a pus-slathered kidney stone." - TT from HH
by DonDrapersOPS on Dec 20, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
They just want to present them at the same press conference.
While Anaheim is filled with wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson
by Axe Em Rangers on Dec 20, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
So Let It Be Written...
So Let It Be Done.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
He said they cant really do anything until Yu is signed as moves without him and with him would be different
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
Thad was speaking more about trades than FA, imo
Northern Virginia's all time world champion Rangers fan of all time and all of Northern Virginia, and the rest of Virginia too. Mayor of Greatestfanville, Virginia.
Adam J Morris, halfassedly pretending to be interested in my thoughts, goals, and overall self esteem since late 2005.
by Brian Thomas on Dec 20, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
AA?
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Angels
"When I came off the mound the hairs were standing up on my arm. I know there's not much"
/Holland.
K,
I was confused for a sec.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Anthopoulous
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
JD is going to be on the Ticket at 1010
to speak about the posting.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
so we wrong....Rangers have big money penis
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
by shock00 on Dec 20, 2011 10:03 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Engorged.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Now we know why Simpson's wife is always smiling.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
They're just discreet about when you'll see it next.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
discreet is the best
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Like a flasher in an alley.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
So nobody knows when the money penis will appear
but when it does BAM…
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
and its all up in everyone's face
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Ninjamoneypenis strikes without warning
and takes no prisoners.
"And the Yankees slap everyone around with their money penis, but where has it gotten them?"- Jorge C
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 20, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Just walking along minding my own
business and SLAM! MONEY PENIS IN THE FACE!
by Pocket Ninja on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
This really was the money shot.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
A few different points all clumped into one post
First I am ecstatic about this signing because it obviously means our money problems were overstated
Secondly, I wonder if this posting fee is what one of the owners was referring to a month or so ago when they said they were going to be investing close to 60 million in payroll over the next few years. Perhaps this was what they meant to a degree. Bob and Ray wrote out 26 million dollar checks and told JD to get it done.
Third, I still am skeptical how much this actually helps us in 2012. There are going to be projections and stuff but really no one knows how exactly he is going to transition to pitching stateside. From pitching on 4 days rest instead of 5, to pitching in The Ballpark, to pitching in the heat of Texas for the first time. All those things are factors that I believe may limit his ability this first year so while I am happy as always to get a talent at his age into our system I dont really know how much it helps our club for next year.
Which is why I really hope this doesn’t put us out of the Prince derby. We now have 4 starters (5 if you count Ogando) under team control for at least 3 years and our focus now should be on improving/stabilizing the offense with guys who are young and impact players to replace the guys we are going to lose in the next few years.
Realistically, I wouldn't expect him to be an ace next season....
I would stick him at the #3 spot and let him gel and learn…..
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
This.
If handled correctly, Yu should be able to transition in a low pressure environment. Colby, for better or worse, is now the old man/grizzled old veteran of the staff and will likely be at the top. Holland probably is the 2. I would put Yu between Holland and Harrison with Happy bringing up the rear in another low pressure—fifth man situation.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
And most likely sends Ogando back to that suddenly engorged bullpen.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
Putting up 2 WAR seasons from the bullpen isn't exactly easy.
I think Ogando will be good for us next year, but in some hard-to-measure combined role.
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels
by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
That pitch at about 7:34 (top view) is sick.
by Wemedge on Dec 20, 2011 10:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Sigh
First comment on the superpowers article:
tesla December 20, 2011 10:54 amActually dubya and fox will like it since he defected Iran for democracy. Now Obam may not like it.
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Holy shit.
Someone sterilize this person before it’s too late.
by Pocket Ninja on Dec 20, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
JD's interview:
JD didn’t know Cornell almost beat Illinois last night.
JD knew the bid was strong, but didn’t know they won until yesterday like everyone else. Knew Toronto was going to bid strong and they did.
JD won’t get into deets about whom was spoken to or who spoke with Nippon or Yu’s agent.
JD says they handled the CJ and Yu situations similarly. They communicated to CJ’s agent what parameters the Rangers were comfortable and they set the same kind of parameters for the bidding process. They were prepared to tip their cap and move on.
JD credits and praises the support ownership showed throughout the posting process.
Norm asked if Darvish’s signing will factor into their season ticket and merch sales, and JD doesn’t think so. He thinks winning will sell the tickets.
Norm asks if the Rangers are considering sending the Rangers to Japan to open the 2013 season, but JD says they haven’t had any conversations about that, but he’d be open to it.
Norm asks what the potential concerns are pertaining to the adjustments Yu will have to make (different ball, etc.). JD says you can’t generalize and that’s why you trust the scouts and learn as much as possible about the player first. He acknowledges the stereotypes exist for a reason, but he thinks they’ve identified a player that they won’t apply for.
Norm asks if they are in the position to trade pitching now. JD says we gotta sign Yu first, but he says they can’t have too much quality pitching. He expects phone calls, but doesn’t know that he’ll be initiating them. They will be “open for anything”. Calls it “unnecessary” and “premature” to forecast how that will play out.
Norm asked if JD has reflected on how completely they have changed the nature and image of the Rangers organization, and JD credits everyone else.
Norm ended the interview by not-so-subtly suggesting that Bob Simpson and Ray Davis go find another $100 mil to sign ‘another player’.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
by jam0152 on Dec 20, 2011 10:30 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
Thank you for this.
I just woke up from last night’s festivities. SOFA KING AWESOME.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Ditto on the thanks
I couldn’t listen, but it’s good to read JD’s thoughts a little. As much as anyone can.
by The Best Micah on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Great synopsis....good questions by Norm, too...
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
I wanted a Fielder question
even though I know what JD would’ve said
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Agreed
Doesn’t even take that much budget adjustment.
Pay Prince $10M next year, and then he steps into Josh’s contractual shoes going forward.
The toughest part, I’m sure, is convincing Nolan to let Josh go.
Let him go, Nolan.
Let him go. If you love him, you have to do it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
That's just it. I don't think Nolan wants to let Josh go.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
True.
I think Nolan is afraid of a situation where Josh wants to stay and they let him walk and in the process irrevocably pisses off the fan base who view Josh as some kind of immortal. Not we enlightened folk at LSB, but the mass of casual fans who wear a Josh Hamilton shirsey because he loves Jesus or loves the sin and redemption story or saw him take one to the upper deck that night, etc. etc.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
I have some sympathy for those folks.
The HR display at the old yankee stadium, and then the entirety of the 2010 season—those are lasting memories for me as a baseball fan. But, yes, he should probably walk for the deal he’s looking for.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I could see them handling Josh like they handled CJ....
Go to him and say, this is what we’re comfortable with and explain why…if he agrees, great…if not, it’s been great.
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know....he's probably already humbled from his off-the-field experiences...
I don’t think Josh is in the same mold as CJ…CJ probably looked at it as a slap in the face when it was just business. This could be wishful thinking but I think that they will lay out a nice proposal for him and tell him they would love to have him back but not at what he will probably get from another team. Josh will have to decide if he’s going to secure 5 or 6 generations of Hamiltons or 10 generations….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
And the ball will be in Josh's court.
You can make a lot more money in Washington…take your kids to see all the monuments…and watch us in the World Series on TV.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
Last night, there were some reports out of Toronto that the Rangers won by $600k
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
laxtonto's post from last night....
after reading the article I think it might just be a mishash from Japanese reports
onebluejaysway BEAST MODE
Elliott: Jays bid $51.1 million (lost by $600K). torontosun.com/2011/12/19/wil…
JD’s like, “you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!”- RCCook
LSB: “Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!”
by laxtonto on Dec 19, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Destiny
I’m an Eckerd alum, and for a school whose only sports relevance tends to be windsurfing (as well as being Jim Mecir’s alma mater – heck of a nice guy btw) this feels extra awesome.
Darvish was born in Habikino, Osaka, to an Iranian father, Farsad Darvishsefad, and a Japanese mother, Ikuyo.4 His parents met at Eckerd College, a liberal arts school in St. Petersburg, Florida, where his father played for the college soccer team.56 His grandfather was a travel agent in Iran, and sent Farsad to the United States in 1977 to attend high school in Berkshire County, Massachusetts, where he also raced competitively in motocross.
Baseball announcer utters expletive on TV broadcast to describe Hideki Irabu’s ineptitude – network gets zero complaints
by TomLovesHideki on Dec 20, 2011 10:36 AM CST reply actions
I am still in such a state of Yuphoria
by MikeEl on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
I'll repeat here
from another thread – I want swinging strikeouts to be called Yusury.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Why not Yudaimonia?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
that's
yudicrous.
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
Just thinking about John Sterling
makes me glad the Yankess didn’t win the rights.
by Van Down By The River on Dec 20, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
If we are able to sign Darvish
It’ll help take some of the sting out of losing Endy.
by Van Down By The River on Dec 20, 2011 10:53 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Only some, though.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
well played
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Who is going to be our two week late June Ted Williams now?
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
This made me laugh really hard for some reason
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Now we need to sign the catcher from Nippon Ham
Anyone think Napoli will be able to work with Yu and his huge arsenal of off-speed stuff? How do you even know what pitch to call, let alone catch it once it gets to you?
"Nap-O-Li! Nap-O-Li! Nap-O-Li!" - 51,351 fans on 10/01/11
by NorCalRangersFan on Dec 20, 2011 11:03 AM CST reply actions
I think Nap takes him out on the town and they work it out.
There is no way in HELL Torrealba can catch any of the breaking pitches Yu throws.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
Can you imagine Naps hitting the DFW bar scene with Darvish, Yoshi, and Koji in tow?
That could be historically hilarious. Those Japanese are some hard drinking sumbitches, lemme tell you…
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by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 20, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Somebody would show up the next day with a face tattoo.
"the PGT isn’t about alerting drunk guys on their mobile as to what the score was." --goET 7-24-11
Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.
I has a Japanese girlfriend once
she could keep up with me and that’s saying something.
I live to play the devil's advocate.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Dec 20, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
No kidding. Never go in of a sake bombing contest with them. You will lose and suffer.
Liverpool has been freed, the Rangers have been freed, now it's time to free the Stars from Tom Hicks.
by Cruztovictory on Dec 20, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Should have been for a.
Liverpool has been freed, the Rangers have been freed, now it's time to free the Stars from Tom Hicks.
by Cruztovictory on Dec 20, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
We need to tweak that frat-boy jeep gif
to have Napoli driving all the Japanese players around town.
The lurker/poster formerly known as "ncrangerfan." I don't live in Hickory anymore....
by Midnight Sun on Dec 20, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
much rejoicing
Some see a glass half empty, some a glass half full. I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be. - George Carlin
I got Yu, babe!
Sorry for another yu pun…I’m weak….couldn’t resist…
Holland was on XM radio and it sounds like he is going to keep the 'stache and will also have a mullet.
Didn’t really say anything substantial. He wants Fielder, they talked about the budding rivalry, and talked about CJ.
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Oh an someone was impersonating him at a bar
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Only smarter.
Liverpool has been freed, the Rangers have been freed, now it's time to free the Stars from Tom Hicks.
by Cruztovictory on Dec 20, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Do not sit at the poker table with this man.
He will take your money, your shirt, and your girl.
Liverpool has been freed, the Rangers have been freed, now it's time to free the Stars from Tom Hicks.
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