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Durrett: Rangers, Napoli talking long-term contract

According to Richard Durrett, the Rangers are engaging in talks with Mike Napoli about a long-term contract extension. Jon Paul Morosi also tweeted that "there's a very good chance" an extension will be done by Opening Day.

Napoli, 30, was acquired by the Rangers last offseason from Toronto in exchange for Frank Francisco just a week after the Blue Jays had landed Napoli from Anaheim as part of the Vernon Wells trade.

Napoli came to Texas with a reputation for being a slugging catcher who wasn't good behind the plate, but his glovework and handling of pitchers got good reviews from the Rangers coaching staff and pitchers in 2011.


Mike Napoli

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Napoli had a career season in 2011, putting up a 1046 OPS in 113 games, despite spending several weeks on the disabled list.

Napoli is a free agent after the 2012 season, so it makes sense for the Rangers to try to lock him up on a multi-year deal now, particularly if they are willing to commit to him as their regular catcher going forward. The concern with Napoli is that he has spent most of his career as a part-time player...aside from 2010, when he logged 510 plate appearances (and had the lowest OPS of his career), he's never had more than last season's 432 plate appearances (a number he matched in 2009). In addition, his career high in games started at catcher is 84.

Napoli's offensive performance last season probably isn't sustainable, but if he puts up close to his career averages (.264/.359/.514) for the next few seasons, with decent defense behind the plate, he has significant value. I've suggested I'd be comfortable with three years, $25 million, but I suspect it would take a little more than that -- 3/$30, maybe -- to get a deal done.


Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
2006 24 LAA AL 99 325 268 47 61 13 0 16 42 2 3 51 90 .228 .360 .455 .815 110
2007 25 LAA AL 75 263 219 40 54 11 1 10 34 5 2 33 63 .247 .351 .443 .794 107
2008 26 LAA AL 78 274 227 39 62 9 1 20 49 7 3 35 70 .273 .374 .586 .960 147
2009 27 LAA AL 114 432 382 60 104 22 1 20 56 3 3 40 103 .272 .350 .492 .842 120
2010 28 LAA AL 140 510 453 60 108 24 1 26 68 4 2 42 137 .238 .316 .468 .784 115
2011 29 TEX AL 113 432 369 72 118 25 0 30 75 4 2 58 85 .320 .414 .631 1.046 171
6 Seasons 619 2236 1918 318 507 104 4 122 324 25 15 259 548 .264 .359 .514 .873 129
162 Game Avg. 162 585 502 83 133 27 1 32 85 7 4 68 143 .264 .359 .514 .873 129
LAA (5 yrs) 506 1804 1549 246 389 79 4 92 249 21 13 201 463 .251 .346 .485 .831 119
TEX (1 yr) 113 432 369 72 118 25 0 30 75 4 2 58 85 .320 .414 .631 1.046 171
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/20/2011.

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Good.

Second best news I’ve gotten today.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Dec 20, 2011 7:16 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Did you not find out about Yu until today?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

NO SIR I DID NOT

YOU CAN IMAGINE MY EMOTIONAL STATE

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Dec 20, 2011 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: Anyone have a clue what MY is up to?

Because either a brilliant Michael Young look alike with enough money to afford a VIP guide road the Haunted Mansion today, or I didn’t geek out for nothing.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Dec 20, 2011 7:18 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Pics or it di'nt happen

Alternaely, get BigSteve on the flight data :)

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 7:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Josey must be so incredibly jealous right now

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

He's not the only one.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." -- Rogers Hornsby

by CrustytheCowboy on Dec 20, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty sure he's in FL

I live in Orlando and my girl said she saw him at the airport two days ago. She would only recognize the Rangers she would bang out, and he’s on the list. So………

by SantosLhalper on Dec 20, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Sweet!

I like knowing I wasn’t imagining things.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Dec 20, 2011 11:15 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Hahahaha

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck it, I'll rec this one too

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I've lurked around for a while,

and I’m pretty sure you’re like 10/15 minutes from me. Not creepy, a knowledgeable Rangers fan in LBV/Kissimmee area stands out.

by SantosLhalper on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh.

What’s your general area?

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Dec 20, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

LSBLoveConnection right here.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

5 mins

from that god awful shit stain of a Wendy’s.

by SantosLhalper on Dec 20, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Dec 20, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You guys are SO BAD

"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson

by jam0152 on Dec 21, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

But I'm laughing my ass off.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Dec 21, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Who else is on that list?

Ian: If you didn't try to hit for average--or be the hitter that you are--and just tried to hit homers, how many do you think you'd hit this year and what would your average be?
Face: 74 home runs and, um... prolly hit around .370
Ian: ...Wow. Um... let's do that.

by Chewtoy123 on Dec 20, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh.

Napoli, Kins, MY, the Ninja, and Gentry. I told her she has to add Yu if she wants a pass.

by SantosLhalper on Dec 20, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Solid list

Gentry is underrated as a heartthrob.

Ian: If you didn't try to hit for average--or be the hitter that you are--and just tried to hit homers, how many do you think you'd hit this year and what would your average be?
Face: 74 home runs and, um... prolly hit around .370
Ian: ...Wow. Um... let's do that.

by Chewtoy123 on Dec 21, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

She referred to him as

obtainable… At least she like to watch games.

by SantosLhalper on Dec 21, 2011 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

And it gets even awesomer...

"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." - Jon Daniels

by GhettoBear04 on Dec 20, 2011 7:22 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely.

Nobody in our minors is even close at catcher. An extra three years for Napoli (or 3 total) would be wonderful.

by Akalhar on Dec 20, 2011 7:30 PM CST reply actions  

This would be awesome

Sign Yu and lock up both Holland and Napoli. Sounds like a pretty good offseason.

by Travis93 on Dec 20, 2011 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

And bring Pudge back.

Ian: If you didn't try to hit for average--or be the hitter that you are--and just tried to hit homers, how many do you think you'd hit this year and what would your average be?
Face: 74 home runs and, um... prolly hit around .370
Ian: ...Wow. Um... let's do that.

by Chewtoy123 on Dec 20, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I love this but I don't really want Napoli catching full time.

I love his role. If they want to make him the primary catcher and increase the number of games where he catches, fine, but I think his value is being able to also DH and play 1B…I worry about him breaking down if he catches 120-130 games.

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

There's no need for him to catch full time, at least for next year

Yorvit is more than able to catch half the Rangers games, and Naps can primarily DH and occasionally play 1B when he’s not catching, to keep him fresh.

by CrisLander on Dec 21, 2011 7:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Dang, just coming here tompost this

Great idea, imfo.

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 7:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'd be willing to go 4/45-50...

I’m not sure 3/30 gets it done.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 20, 2011 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

I think the problem with 3/$30 is...

MLBTR has him projected as $9.2M in his final year of arb. That means he’s getting $20.8M for 2 years… I think he would expect to make more in the open market as a FA than 2/$20.8M.

My guess is 4/$45M

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

It is hard to say

the problem I see is that it is hard to believe that Naps will ever be better than his 2011 was. So while 2/20 sounds kind of low as an extension, if his 2012 regresses at all he may wish he had taken it.

I agree that it sounds kind of low, but there is a good deal of value in eliminating that uncertainty…

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Dec 20, 2011 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Without a major injury... I don't see him regretting not taking 2/$20 as an extension.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

it definitely is at the low end of things

but again… we don’t know his personal risk tolerance / aversion. It isn’t entirely unreasonable – very team friendly, yes, but still a starting point

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Dec 20, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

he go for a 4yr deal

his value will never be higher then what it is now

by RangerMad on Dec 21, 2011 7:19 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Yep.

No one man should have so much power.

OurDailyBears.com

by Prashanth Francis on Dec 20, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I dont see why he would sign only a 3 year deal now only a year away from FA

Even if something bad happens this year he could likely get a 2 year deal in FA.

I think it’ll take a 4 year deal and 45 mil sounds about right. 12 mil per in the 3 FA years which is slightly under what VMart got AAV in FA last winter and Napoli had a huge monster year.

He may settle for 11 mil per given his spotty past which would be a steal IMO.

by bigsteve on Dec 20, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Mine was first, I win.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

But one is a catcher, and one is not

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 7:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

VMart was a catcher

And if it wasn’t for Aviles he would have been in Detroit.

by bigsteve on Dec 20, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really.

Aviles caught like 212 games last year because they didn’t want VMart back there. They signed Laird to back Aviles up. They obviously don’t see VMart as a catcher.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 20, 2011 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Alex Avila

Mike Aviles is a 2B

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Dec 21, 2011 1:12 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I expect him to beat his career line

which is certainly very nice anyway.

His 2011 had some good luck involved, but it wasn’t one of those clear cut BABIP only fluke seasons. He struckout less, he walked more, he improved his line drive %, the park change accounts for some of the HR/FB increase….

Hes hit 30 so you have to work that into it, but I think he can go for a .880-.940 ops for the next couple years if he stays health and you don’t wear him out catching him everyday.

I’d love it if he signed for 3/30, but I’d expect it to take a higher average or another year.

by DShep on Dec 20, 2011 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

Please, JD, continue to make me happy.

A nice, reasonable Napoli extension would do that very well.

by Arson55 on Dec 20, 2011 7:46 PM CST reply actions  

If I'm his agent, I say fuck you to anything less than 5/70

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

Sure thing, Josey.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Zactly

+needs moar mouth

We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 7:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

And JD says, "welp, see ya later..."

"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski

by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The best thing

was where Victor Martinez was the infinitely superior option because he was actually a catcher.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 20, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we should all keep making references until he gets unbanned.

Because since everyone keeps bringing him up it’s obvious he’s missed.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Just talking Great Game, st1ck

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

did he get booted?

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Dec 20, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Last night.

After HF45 pasted his comment on HH congratulating them on Pujols and C.J. and how the Darvish thing was a bad idea because C.J. will be much better.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I for one

am sad I missed him shitting his pants fantastic. His blowouts amuse me.

"Calmer than you are dude"

by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 20, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

ARE YOU SERIOUS???!

can you please please please link or point to right thread so I can print out thousands of transcripts, put them in my bathtub and dive in Scrooge McDuck style?

by alon91 on Dec 20, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Alright...

Here.

And Here.

But we really need to stop talking about it. It gives him more attention than he deserves and I’m sure he’ll be back in a few days anyway.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 20, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Psh, he'll probably be back tomorrow

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I noticed that one as well...

I think he’s pretty upset that the Rangers spurned his buddy, and I understand why.

It will be interesting to see if eclou still posts here and whether or not his Rangers fandom continues.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 20, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who kind of hopes not?

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

newp

Ian: If you didn't try to hit for average--or be the hitter that you are--and just tried to hit homers, how many do you think you'd hit this year and what would your average be?
Face: 74 home runs and, um... prolly hit around .370
Ian: ...Wow. Um... let's do that.

by Chewtoy123 on Dec 20, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't feel bad for Wilson...

the guy is getting paid and going back where he grew up.

But I understand why his feelings would be hurt with the Rangers not going after him harder. He was a key piece in leading this team to not only their first, but their second WS. He was with the organization a long time and I honestly feel like he gave them everything he could.

I will have sports hate for him I’m sure, but I don’t think I will ever truly hate BGL.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 20, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't hate him at all.

He was one of the best Ranger pitchers I can remember. He was very good for most of his time here.

And he turned it into a big contract with a contending team. Great things happening for that guy. Good for him.

by Heebs on Dec 20, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...

His goals now directly conflict with my goals as a fan. So I root for utter failure in his baseball career because of the benefit to the Rangers.

But I still like the guy.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope CJ goes 20-4 next year

And Jered Weaver has to have Tommy John surgery. Rangers still win that division by 6.

by Heebs on Dec 20, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm really just joking.

I don’t wish either of those things.

by Heebs on Dec 20, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope the Angels go 0-162...

And the city of Anaheim falls into the ocean.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

did no one hear his comments after being signed?

it was pretty clear he wasn’t going to stay with the rangers regardless of the offer.

by halloweenhead on Dec 21, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

You can never put too much stock in comments made in that kind of setting.

Did you expect him to talk about how sad he was not resigning with Texas in his LA press conference?

by bigsteve on Dec 21, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

eclou has mentioned he was going to Rangers games before C.J. was born.

I imagine he’ll still follow the team.

But I also assume he’ll still root for C.J.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I said many times before this all played out...

That I would rather have C.J. if the money were equal. I think C.J. is the safer bet and I like the guy. He’s a damn good pitcher.

At the same… I absolutely coveted Darvish… so I have no disappointment at all. I have glee that we have a 25 year old polished pitcher that has amazing stuff probably coming to our team.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe its a shiny new toy thing

But I’d rather have Yu Darvish. I can’t wait to see him pitch for the Rangers. If he doesn’t sign I’ll be devastated.

by Heebs on Dec 20, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Obviously its how they pitch that really matters

and we will see on that.. but no denying that Darvish will grant a level of excitement to all his starts but within fans and with media attention that CJ couldn’t.

His first start is probably my most anticipated one ever as far as simply seeing the pitcher is concerned.

by DShep on Dec 20, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

But

What if CJ declines into the Lackey zone? Then having CJ at that money would suck. In a few years we will be glad we didnt resign him. imo

"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve

by Spadedsnake on Dec 20, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

What if Ian Kinsler turns to dust?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

If Kins turns to dust

We will move profar there. CJ served his purpose now he will be another anchor on the angels payroll. Sooner or latter that roster is gonna sink like the titanic

"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve

by Spadedsnake on Dec 20, 2011 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

he shouldn't have turned at Sodom

turned to salt.

happy chanukkah!!!!!

(kinz is a jew)

by alon91 on Dec 20, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

sounds like a cop out

But I totally trust that the Rangers made the correct evaluation and considered angles that I would never think about.

Darvish over CJ is something that the team apparently walked into with eyes wide open and I feel that grabbing a talent like this by a margin of ~1% over a very savvy competitor thrills me.

"I think we just have to wait and see how things shake its way out," -- Wash

by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

If eclou isn't rooting for the laundry, then good riddance.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I will always be a Rangers fan...

but if you had a close personal friend that played ball, I imagine it would be hard not to root for that person too.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Dec 20, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Continuing to root for CJ won't be the problem.

Abandoning your rangers fandom will be.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll be back. He's resilient.

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

for sure, like a cockroach

a sad, fat, old, virgin, pathetic trolling cockroach.

but there it was — it’s on the screen:

“I was wrong about the Rangers”.

And for just a few moments, the good guys won.

by alon91 on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

okay

but I will revel in not having that filthy troll around here for even a short amount of time.

(and thanks for links!)

by alon91 on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

What else is new? All anyone does is bait him anyway.

Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011

by Josh Lile on Dec 20, 2011 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

are you high

the guy infests more threads on here than any troll on any board in the history of things.

I still wake up screaming Hank Blalock’s name three years later.

he is impossible — IMPOSSIBLE — to ignore because he is a pathetically relentless troll who will beat the drum until sane otherwise calm people like alon91 want to fucking smash their laptops.

by alon91 on Dec 20, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't find ignoring him that hard

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Josey is that mosquito bite that kind of itches

but it only gets really bad when people don’t ignore it and scratch it. Only then is it really annoying, and ultimately it was the scratcher’s fault…

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Dec 20, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

you are asking hundreds of people to all refrain from "itching" at the same time

hoping that will make the problem go away.

remember this preferred behavior of yours is after a horrible collapse loss to the Angels, aka you’ve just got 10,000 mosquito bites.

also a hypothetical: if magically you could get everyone to ignore the troll for a day would he go away? Three days? A week?

by alon91 on Dec 21, 2011 7:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Eh, even asking people to stop engaging him is pointless

The problem is never going to go away.

The only solution is just to make your peace with that fact, and deal.

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 21, 2011 7:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

Josey doesn’t annoy me at this point. I hold the Z button down and move past whatever nonsense he throws out there.

Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011

by Josh Lile on Dec 21, 2011 7:38 AM CST up reply actions  

DIAF

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 7:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Now, now.

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by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's just obnoxious and offensive.

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by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I know Rodney doesn't really mean it.

We’ve high five-d at a tailgate. That kind of bond isn’t easily shattered.

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by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Though Rodney kissed TDT...

We didn’t make it quite that far.

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by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Only because you are a prick tease, my bearded friend

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 8:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ehh, merely channeling my inner FbM3

Haha

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by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 8:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Give people a couple of days to get it all out of their system

Hopefully this one was the for good.

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by vfn on Dec 20, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Stupid.

Everyone takes the piss out of everything that’s occurred on here in the past.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 20, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see why I can't both (a) relentless make fun of JW's idiocy and (b) never want to interact with him again on these here boards.

If I beat cancer, I’m going to celebrate beating cancer, even if there’s a chance of relapse.

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by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Righto!

/poppins

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by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 9:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, yes.

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by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

The best one. The best JDT.

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by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

So, next in the fat, swarthy, shemale looking pool?

1. Bill Conlan
2. Fraley???

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 8:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Well, he has retired before he ends up in the pokey

So you may be saved from his stoopid. Also, I feel the same about Fraley.

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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11

by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 8:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I've hated Conlin ever since he said

he voted against Nolan for the HOF ‘cause he didn’t think his numbers were good enough.

Ugh. Just say you voted against him to be the contrarian SOB you are, and don’t insult our intelligence by saying otherwise.

Good riddance.

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by CrustytheCowboy on Dec 20, 2011 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I had started hating him by then.

That iced it.

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by philkid3 on Dec 20, 2011 11:41 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Could you please explain

the Craig James dead hooker bit?

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by Spadedsnake on Dec 20, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Craig James, dead hookers

I would think it should be obvious

by MikeEl on Dec 20, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Craig James

Scourge of the Women of the Night.

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by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

The search engine

for Craig James dead hookers is humorous but not helpful.

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by Spadedsnake on Dec 20, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

He took anaxe and gave them 40 whacks.

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by boomer1 on Dec 20, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Every time I lose faith in the internet...

A story like Craig James savagely murdering 5 hookers comes along and restores it

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by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Well we don't know he did for sure.

But the signs point strongly to him having something to do with it.

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by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs

by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by AceJC on Dec 21, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I love the internet

I’m trying to figure out how this started, and I come across this comment on a message board… I think I get it

You people are so ignorant. Show me one shred of evidence that CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU. This guilty until proven innocent crap has got to stop. The fact that CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU has never been proven and yet you still continue to post that CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU, I mean give the poor guy a break. If CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU then I am sure there would have been some sort of investigation into whether CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU. Now don’t get me wrong, if CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU I will recant my whole statement. But until it is proven I think we should all refrain from posted that CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU until we know for a fact CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU. I will now get off my soapbox………….. By the way, CRAIG JAMES KILLED FIVE HOOKERS AT SMU.

by Jobu. on Dec 21, 2011 5:53 AM CST up reply actions  

There's been no denial

that Craig James killed five hookers, Clear evidence.

by ftwdrummer on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

So whats your ideal finish to the offseason

- Napoli, Kinsler and Holland extensions. 2 out of 3 at least please.
- Carlos Beltran 2/30 with a vesting 3rd year if hes healthy. Monster 2012 lineup, solid short term transition from Hamilton 2013-2014.
- Matt Thornton trade, or whatever lefty you can get the best deal on.
- Darren Oliver/Gonzo/etc. smaller bullpen FA.
- As this is a pretty greedy offseason as is, Moreland will suffice at 1st and given that you’ve locked up Napoli and brought in another guy who might need some DH time its good to leave 1b flexible without a 155 game guy anyway.

Supposedly Beltran isn’t far from signing and the Rangers arn’t doing anything major until Darvish signs though. Perhaps some ninja-ness?

by DShep on Dec 20, 2011 8:11 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

x

Napoli, Kinsler and Holland extensions.
Sign Gonzalez
Sign Fielder

Prepare for domination…..

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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 20, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's mine

- Get the Yu deal done
- Resign 2 of Kinsler, Napoli, and Holland
- Sign Oliver
- Sign Beltran

by Travis93 on Dec 20, 2011 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

and of course, actually sign Yu

by DShep on Dec 20, 2011 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Basically what you said without the Beltran thing. I don't think we will guarantee him the playing time he wants.

Complete Darvishment.
Trade for Thornton.
Extend Holland, Napoli, and Kinsler.
Give CF to King Leonys.

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by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Given up on the app already?

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by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

The iphong app is slow to load

And does not flip to landscape/side view. Thine eyes cannot take that.

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by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 8:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

/Dion Samders

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by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 8:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

ninja dealings

remember how the talk of Holland extension seemed to be timed right before a really big ticket item…

well once again we are hearing talk of an extension, maybe as a smokescreen for something being announced soon??

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by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to follow through occasionally

just to keep everyone guessing.

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by Midnight Sun on Dec 20, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Mine

- Extend Kinsler and try hard for Elvis. Any are nice, but those two are the most important to push for
- Let Oliver go to some other team; Gonzo works for me
- I’m kind of okay without a power lefty out there, but if a good one can be had cheaply…
- If Napoli is extended, trade Torrealba and get a cheaper, but still decent, backup
- If you sign Beltran, then I think you probably trade Cruz

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by JBImaknee on Dec 20, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

with torrealba

I think Napoli wont be able to get more than 100 games behind the plate

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Dec 20, 2011 8:54 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

which is probably about perfect

another 20 at 1b, plus 20+ at DH sounds about right. Gotta have some days off in summertime.

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by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

This is why I like having torre here. Its much better to have an average starter as a backup then someone like Teagarden

Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"

Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."

by Gdawg on Dec 20, 2011 9:03 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

seems to work out perfect

YorTor seems to be a guy that gives you above average production, as long as you keep him to a semi regular. I’d like to see him catch about every other day thru the summer, less as you get into sept, oct.

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by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Ya'll seem to forget

Torrealba cannot catch breaking pitches, therefore he doesn’t call them.

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by Atticus F on Dec 20, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Would the Darvish/Napoli battery be the sexiest in baseball...all time?

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by JDT217 on Dec 20, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

ugh, reply fail

still getting used to the sbn app

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by Gdawg on Dec 20, 2011 9:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Lost and insecure...Yu found me, Yu found me.

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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 20, 2011 9:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

those who like Beltran

I guess the idea would be that Hamilton would be the CF most days, Murphy and Gentry as 4th/5th OF, and Moreland backed up by Face and Napoli at 1b?

"I think we just have to wait and see how things shake its way out," -- Wash

by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 9:11 PM CST reply actions  

except that...

Hamilton will be in left, and Martin in center.

With the injury problems that already plague or COF’rs, why add the same problem w/Beltran?

by awillis111 on Dec 20, 2011 9:15 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Let me explain then...

This is under the assumption that the Rangers plan to let Hamilton leave as his extension price is too high for his injury downside. Perhaps his extension price is lower than anticipated or the Rangers are willing to commit to him anyway, only the Rangers know that. If they do plan to bring him back, Beltran doesn’t fit.

But if you do plan to let Hamilton go, I think it fits in beautifully.

- Leonys Martin: Hes a 24 year old who struggled significantly in his AAA debut and is not projected to do all that much next year. In this scheme, he would likely start in AAA and be called up as the backup CF (getting significant time as Hamilton isn’t a true CF) if he handles AAA. Then in 2013, CF is entirely open and if Leonys has played well hes slotted in as the starter. Seems like a completely standard progression to me.

- Hamilton: You are expecting him to be gone, so the extra wear and tear from CF (if this is truly legitimate anyway, I’m not sure) is less of a concern for the club since they are not locked into his long term future and we’ve never heard anything about Hamilton actually preferring to play corner or anything. Maybe you can get 100 games out of him in CF, and cycle a OF to DH the other 60 games with Young at 1st and Napoli catching for those days. Moreland’s playing time is shortened, no big deal.

- Beltran: Why would you want him? He put up a 4.7 WAR last year? Thats more than either Hamilton or Cruz (by a longshot on Cruz’s meh year). Hes a good player, and the Rangers wanted him at the deadline for a reason last year. Having 3 injury prone outfielders is a concern, but guess what- they’ve got Murphy, Leonys and Gentry. They are a reason you don’t need to make a move for Beltran, but they also allow you to bank on the high upside of the injury prone players while being able to cover for their downtime.

- 2013: If the Rangers arn’t in on fielder, Beltran is the best bat available this offseason and there is very little out there next offseason. He is a nice piece to give depth to the lineup if Hamilton has left without trying real longterm money up.

by DShep on Dec 20, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

nicely stated, makes for a deeeeep lineup with a lot of versatility in the day to day lineups and enough depth that no one injury is really gonna kill you

OF: Beltran, Hamilton, Cruz, Murphy, Gentry
IF: Moreland, Face, Kinsler, Andrus, Beltre, Utility
C: Napoli, YorTor

plus the strengthened roto and bullpen (assuming Ogando moved to fireman role)

and all the minor league trade powder is still dry…

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by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

that lineup has 6-7 hitters that would be second best on Laaaa

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by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's my simplified argument for Beltran

there’s a DH spot and a underperforming 1B on the roster. YOu have enough flexibility to have room for both Leonys Martin when he is ready and Beltran.

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by FirebatM3 on Dec 20, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Just curious.

You want MY to play 1B everyday in that scenario?

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by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 20, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

or close to it

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by FirebatM3 on Dec 20, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

something I'd like to see

Even considering his diminished fielding skills, I really believe that if Face concentrated on improving defensively at first he could be passable there.

I know he wasn’t a good SS, but still, a guy with his resume should presumably make at least a passable defensive 1b, and MY wasn’t that last year. I’m gonna assume that he isn’t trying very hard if he doesn’t show a lot of improvement on his defense at first.

"I think we just have to wait and see how things shake its way out," -- Wash

by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I really believe this too

It was hard watching him at 1st in the World Series, but the guy was at least a mediocre 3rd baseman in 2009/2010. It just seems weird that his defensive performance wouldn’t improve at 1st. It shouldn’t be THAT hard of a position to learn. (yes, cue Moneyball Wash quote).

by todmod on Dec 21, 2011 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

They were supposedly trying hard to get him at the trade deadline

obviously that doesn’t mean they have to be after him now for multiple years, but it would indicate that they at least had a plan for working him into this roster, which is largely unchanged offensively.

But no, havnt seen anything in the offseason rumors.

by DShep on Dec 20, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

there is a mystery team among the Beltran bidders

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by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

What is our comp to Travis Wood?
The Reds and Cubs are discussing a trade that would involve reliever Sean Marshall going to Cincinnati in exchange for starter Travis Wood, Major League sources tell Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com. It’s not known whether other players would be included in the potential swap, according to the report.

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by boomer1 on Dec 20, 2011 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

stat wise probaboy colby lewis

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Dec 20, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking Harrison, myself

Although Harrison is probably a little better. But they’re closer in terms of age/control.

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

i need to know how wood survives in cinci with a GB rate of 30%

at least colby is on the right side of 35

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Dec 20, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

He does get more GB's and IFFB's at home

But still, that’s a real good question. Probably the reason the Reds want to move him.

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Harrison

is a lot better than Wood

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by FirebatM3 on Dec 20, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Tommy Hunter is probably a little better than Wood, no?

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by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably not

I mean Wood is pretty mediocre, but so is Tommy. Scott Feldman might be better than Wood.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Dec 20, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well then fuck, bring me Marshall already.

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Scott Feldman also costs more

money, which makes him less valuable.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Dec 20, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

They're the Cubs.

They aren’t broke.

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by Josh Lile on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes thank you

but despite the financial strength of a team, 4 years of control at a lower price have more value to a team than 1 at a higher price, even if the pitcher on the 1 year deal might a better pitcher.

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The Animated Ballpark in Arlington

by FirebatM3 on Dec 20, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't dispute that.

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by Josh Lile on Dec 21, 2011 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Tommy Hunter

"I think we just have to wait and see how things shake its way out," -- Wash

by tricer on Dec 20, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Wood vs Lewis

Of the 158 MLB starting pitchers who have thrown at least 150 innings over the past two years Colby Lewis is the 58th most similar pitcher to Travis Wood when it comes to the skilled stats of K/9, BB/9, GB/FB. The lower ranking is mostly due to the fact that Colby Lewis strikes out way more batters than Travis Wood. Both give up a lot of fly balls but at least Lewis can miss a reasonable amount of bats. Wood’s number one comparable is Phil Hughes. The number one comparable for Colby Lewis is Ian Kennedy.

by Xeifrank on Dec 20, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

3 hours of Rotten Radio!!!!!!

YAY!

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by Rodney on Dec 20, 2011 9:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

That's what I thought.

I could live with 4/45.

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by CrustytheCowboy on Dec 20, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: Hobbit trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEOM13UyZ0A&feature=player_embedded

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by MonkeyEpoxy on Dec 20, 2011 9:49 PM CST reply actions  

ooh

looking forward to that, hope it’s good.

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by t ball on Dec 22, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Recent-ish catcher signings/extensions:

AJ Pierzynski – 3 years, $18.35 mil (2007)
John Buck – 3 years, $18 mil (2011)

Who am I missing? There aren’t many decent catchers that have hit free agency.

Anyways, Naps is a better player than the two names I listed…..but do you really want to go 4 years $45 based on one monster year (and a bunch of solid years in a part-time role)? 3/$30 seems pretty fair based on the money John Buck got after that lightning-in-a-bottle season.

Something to chew on…

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by Midnight Sun on Dec 20, 2011 10:05 PM CST reply actions  

Bear in mind that one of those 3 or 4 years is his arb year which is going to be around $9M.

The question is how many free agent years you’re buying after that 1 arb year.

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by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Something to chew on

always makes me think of fatty bacon. Which in turn, makes me happy.

by SantosLhalper on Dec 20, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Just for fun...

Catchers
The highest-paid catchers, by average annual value:

1. Joe Mauer, $23,000,000 (2011-18)
2. Jorge Posada, $13,100,000 (2008-11)
3. Joe Mauer, $8,250,000 (2007-10)
4. Kenji Johjima, $8,000,000 (2009-11)
5. Ramon Hernandez, $6,875,000 (2006-09)
6. A.J. Pierzynski, $6,250,000 (2009-10)
7. Benji Molina, $5,333,333 (2007-09)
8. Jason Varitek, $5,000,000 (2009)
9. Chris Snyder, $4,750,000 (2009-11)
10. Brian McCann, $4,666,667 (2007-12)
11. A.J. Pierzynski, $4,000,000 (2011-12)
12. Ryan Doumit, $3,833,333 (2009-11)

The lurker/poster formerly known as "ncrangerfan." I don't live in Hickory anymore....

by Midnight Sun on Dec 20, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really a catcher....

but if you’re curious, go to COTS

The lurker/poster formerly known as "ncrangerfan." I don't live in Hickory anymore....

by Midnight Sun on Dec 20, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

That is the dumbest thing I've ever seen today.
Being a divorced, single mother of two boys, she was afraid to approach the cat

WTF?

Ian: If you didn't try to hit for average--or be the hitter that you are--and just tried to hit homers, how many do you think you'd hit this year and what would your average be?
Face: 74 home runs and, um... prolly hit around .370
Ian: ...Wow. Um... let's do that.

by Chewtoy123 on Dec 20, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions  

They banned him over there, too.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on Dec 21, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Profar for Daric Barton

Who says no?

He is only 1 season removed from a 5 WAR season!!! Better than Tex!

by dumdum000333 on Dec 20, 2011 11:05 PM CST reply actions  

Obvious troll post is obvious.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver

by Brad on Dec 20, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

6 numbers

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Dec 21, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Tres Aces for the Texas Rangers.

First, the Japanese sensation himself Yu Darvish.

Followed by the flame-throwing righty from the Dominican, Neftali Feliz.

And finally… this guy.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

That last guy isn't Matt Harrison

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Dec 20, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't say St. Louis's aces.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm kind of torn about the St Louis thing now

given that they sort of ruined my 2011…

Maybe he’ll go to San Diego or something. He’s put up nice numbers in San Diego. Though I don’t live there anymore, so it wouldn’t be as exciting

Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars

by JBImaknee on Dec 20, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

You sound like a kid talking about having to get rid of a pet.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 20, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

ahahaha! Where did you get that picture of Derek?

Ian: If you didn't try to hit for average--or be the hitter that you are--and just tried to hit homers, how many do you think you'd hit this year and what would your average be?
Face: 74 home runs and, um... prolly hit around .370
Ian: ...Wow. Um... let's do that.

by Chewtoy123 on Dec 20, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

3/$30M

seems extremely low. That would value him as around a 2.5 WAR player. Napoli probably at the very least has to be valued at 3.5 WAR in 2013 and 3.0 WAR in 2014, which would put a fair offer at closer to 3/$38M and more if you think he is closer to the 5.6 WAR that he put up in 113 games played last year. If you call him a 5.0 WAR player in 2013 and 4.5 WAR in 2014 a fair contract would be more like 3/$52M.

by Xeifrank on Dec 20, 2011 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

As an aside, the Royals signed Yuniesky Betancourt today.

Royals Review is one of my top 3 favorite SBN sites, and totally they totally demonstrated why.

by LiamP on Dec 20, 2011 11:53 PM CST reply actions  

Oh man

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 21, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

This is like that little glitch the computer pulls when you've pitched too awesome a game and it wants baserunners on The Show

The shortstop starts after a playable grounder, and then just stops dead and watches it roll by.

ONLY THIS IS A REAL HUMAN BEING

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 21, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

x

Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck

btho Iowa State

by MonkeyEpoxy on Dec 21, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

What would Adam Dunn cost?

Chicago would probably give him off as a pure salary dump, no?

by dumdum000333 on Dec 21, 2011 12:14 AM CST reply actions  

Adam Dunn was worth -2.9 fWAR last year.

Negative.

Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.

"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.

by Aqua on Dec 21, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Makes Vernon Wells look like something useful.

I wonder
Do I love you - or the thought of you?

by LSJ on Dec 21, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah... That contract is looking just awful

If he were an FA I might put a 1 year 4-5 million flyer with escalators, but 3 years at 14+ million each is yucky.

by dumdum000333 on Dec 21, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

WHAT?!

SB Nation Dallas-Ft. Worth - Christopher Fittz is better than porn!

by philkid3 on Dec 21, 2011 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

There's about to be some cookin' going on in that kitchen.

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Pressure? If there’s any pressure it’s the pressure pressurizing the panty cannon.

by Atticus F on Dec 21, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

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