Darren Oliver to Toronto
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 30, 2011 4:39 PM CST
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Per a variety of folks on twitter, Darren Oliver has signed a one year contract with the Toronto Blue Jays, with a club option for 2013.
Oliver had a very good season out of the bullpen for Texas in 2011, and the Rangers reportedly were interested in bringing him back for 2012. That said, he also had a couple of memorable games where he blew leads, and generally was less successful overall last season in high leverage situations, which resulted in a certain segment of the fan base proclaiming that he was terrible and shouldn't even have a roster spot, despite his excellent numbers.
The Rangers have generally carried at least two lefties in the bullpen, but currently don't have anyone definitively in place for a lefty role in the pen for 2012. Texas is reportedly interested in bringing back Mike Gonzalez, acquired from the Orioles for Pedro Strop last August, and Michael Kirkman will probably have a chance at earning a bullpen job.
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Yes.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
heck yea,
53rd overall pick could net you a darn good player. No problem with letting him walk as he might be right on the border of being ineffective if he loses anymore velo.
I’ll trade DO for the 53rd pick next year as long as we can sign another LHP
"I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." The JeDi
Yurish?
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Dec 30, 2011 6:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
By the end of it we'll say
It was fit for a prince
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 30, 2011 7:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
oh fuck yes
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
wasn't he a type A under the old rules?
a random instance where new arbitration is helping us, i guess. no way a team signs him under the new rules if he’s type A
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
yes many
relievers got reclassified
did he
In fact, get reclassified? I wasn’t sure…
by grn_lantern on Dec 30, 2011 5:31 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
JBI is pleased.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I was thinking the same thing.
Watch Oliver shut the Rangers down in a game against the Jays, just to piss him off that much more…
Garoon: Banned on LSB. Available Only Via Supplement.
meh
he may be good. i still don’t like him. he was one of those guys who made me like the rangers less. I’m glad he’s gone
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Dec 30, 2011 8:17 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
The same reason most of you hate CHOP
if Chan Ho were to return to be a middle reliever, no one would like him. Well, Oliver was Chan Ho before Chan Ho was cool. He had two of the worst seasons ever as a Rangers starter – look at his 2000. He wasn’t all that good the first time either.
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
has mike Gonzalez signed anywhere?
I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.
by jonas m. on Dec 30, 2011 4:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I only wanted him if he was cheaper than he was last year.
Around 1.5M.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Not at all.
How would that cost Oliver a chance? I’m sure we talked to him… if the Blue Jays offered him more money than so be it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Rhodes sudden bout of ineffectiveness
I wonder if the made the Rangers cool on signing Oliver. Maybe lower the price they were willing to pay for his services.
I doubt the Rangers knee jerk in their player evaluation process.
At least I hope they don’t.
I’m sure Oliver was evaluated on his own merits.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't consider that a knee-jerk
It is just part of the evaluation process. Older players have to fall off a cliff some time.
If that was it, then this organization is run by stupid people
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 30, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Or Longhorns...
Wait, redundant
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
by Bface on Dec 30, 2011 6:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nefty won't?
I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's taste in music or people who like Nickelback.
by jonas m. on Dec 30, 2011 5:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rec'd
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Lol
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
heh brilliant
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Milwaukee says hi
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Dec 31, 2011 4:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Gonna miss grandpa
Was a really good reliever for us two years running, but I also don’t know how wise it would be to pay an 80 year old man to pitch on the off chance he can keep it going
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
and who's going to keep ogando from flipping off the masses now?
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
I dont remember #88, Wade....
we gonna resign him?
You gotta get up mighty muthafuckin' early in the mornin' to fuck with me - Wash
by AndrusImpersonator on Dec 30, 2011 5:03 PM CST reply actions
AJM
I’ve been rocking out to your Friday video
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
You really are Dennis Reynolds
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
What's I do this time
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
What'd
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
He loves the 80's
Especially Higher Love.
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Excellent song
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
You do kind of have a Dennis Reynolds vibe
Although that would make you my ort-of son, since I am modeling myself after Frank Reynolds
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 30, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Dennis went to Penn!
A burden should never be something out of your control.
"I'm a Cowboys fan. And I hope they miss the playoffs and get the better draft pick. This team sucks. We're saving ourselves the embarrassment too. That's a major +" by JDT217 on Dec 26, 2011
Penn, vain, 80's, overly self-confident, stalking
It’s like they based the character on you.
Now if we can just get you to start doing crack…
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
I'm still your wild card, right?
Say its still so, Smasher. Say its so.
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I may retire...wanna stay close to my kids...
…aw, fuckitall, it’s only 2200 miles…
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Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Dec 30, 2011 6:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
That was my first thought, too....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 30, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'll miss you, D.O...
Getting a pick is a pretty good deal, though.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 30, 2011 7:00 PM CST reply actions
The Blue Jays also signed Aaron Laffey...
You know what to do, Adam!
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 30, 2011 7:17 PM CST reply actions
NO
Just don't piss her off, otherwise she'll get all Dien Bien Phu up in your Boxer Rebellion - caknuck
btho Iowa State
I hope things SHAKE out for Laffey in Toronto
by mh420800 on Dec 30, 2011 8:13 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
good
Go Rice Owls!
Would be a Matt Harrison fan, but I only like superstars
by JBImaknee on Dec 30, 2011 7:55 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Yes, wooo...
Darren OIiver is awesome.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 31, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
INHERITED RUNNERS GOET!
NOT AT ALL A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE! OLD AND BLACK LIKE ARTHUR RHODES! ANGER!
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
BUT HE DOESNT HAVE A WORLD SERIES RING LIKE RHODES
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
lol i forgot that he does
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Because of the draft pick it makes sense
That we wouldn’t bring him back. Even if we thought his production would be worth the same amount that the jays thought, due to the draft pick compensation they should be willing to pay more to him because we in essence have to forfeit a free draft pick to sign him. Same principle applies to Cj vs Yu. Signing Yu we get him plus draft pick from laa, signing Cj we just get Cj. The effect is probably only $1-2 million of whatever we value the draft pick at, but in the case of Oliver when it’s a smaller 1 year deal that makes all the difference.
my better is better than your better.
by rangerjake on Dec 31, 2011 10:50 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I really like Oliver...
he did a great job here the last couple of years and I would have been fine with him coming back. However, I think I like letting him go and getting the draft pick even more. The Rangers can find another loogy and hopefully turn that pick into something good as well.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
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