Wednesday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Dec 7, 2011 8:05 AM CST
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PrintDay Three of what has been a rather uneventful Winter Meetings for the Texas Rangers.
Evan Grant writes behind the paywall that the best move for the Rangers this winter meetings may be no move.
C.J. Wilson's agent met with the Rangers last night, and came out of that meeting saying he was "pleasantly surprised" with where things stood with Texas.
Jeff Wilson has a lengthy piece about the C.J. situation and the teams that are after him.
T.R. Sullivan writes that the Rangers' are reluctant to go more than four years on deals for pitchers, and thus, if the Angels are willing to go five years for Wilson, they may end up with him.
Joey Matches talks about the various C.J. Wilson rumors that were raised and de-bunked last night, and talks about the likelihood that Wilson is leaving.
Gil Lebreton has a column about the C.J. situation, saying that he doesn't think the Rangers' offer is more than three years, and that C.J. isn't one of the Rangers' "core" players. Richard Durrett, interesting, implied something similar on a piece at ESPN Dallas yesterday, saying that Josh Hamilton was the first of the Rangers' core players to be hitting free agency. It makes me wonder if "C.J. isn't one of our 'core' guys" hasn't been part of the Rangers' talking points in dealing with the media on why they are prepared to let him walk.
Drew Davison's notes focus primarily on Josh Hamilton and his contract situation, which Hamilton saying he just wants to be treated fairly: "Don't come here with no ridiculously low stuff."
Hamilton says he will be ready for the start of the 2012 season after undergoing hernia surgery.
And finally, the Rangers announced they would play an exhibition against the Mexico City Red Devils on April 3 at TBIA.
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That's cool about the exhibition game against the Mexican team.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I've been wondering if the Rays are going to become the first Latin American MLB team.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Can the US solve it's imigration problem by "contracting" the number of states from 50 to 49?
Florida is just too expensive, and it isn’t too big to fail.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
This doesn't seem like a good subthread to go down in the baseball talk area.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
uh. good point. I didn't mean to start a discussion thread.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Dear Mr. President
There are too many states nowadays. Please eliminate three. P.S. I am not a crackpot.
"Those cocksuckers asking me if I thought we were gonna go up there and try to work his fuckin’ pitch count ‘cause he’s on three fuckin’ days rest…you know what I told those cocksuckers? He pitch ball, ball cross plate, we gonna knock the shit out of it."
- Wash
Did I miss something here?
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
meh
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
Mr. Ryan and Señor Masur appear to share your sentiments.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
TDT!!!
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
by Rodney on Dec 7, 2011 9:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rodney!!!!
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I sure hope so.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'm certainly happy the Rangers are still in it.
But, the parameters of CJs offers could change on a dime if Pujols disses the Marlins.
If Pujols goes to the Marlins, I think you might be a tad high, even. I take the “pleasantly surprised” comment by CJ’s agent to mean the Rangers will go with some sort of 5th year.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
I feel pretty optimistic about CJ.
If Texas was just making a gesture-type offer, I think they’d have been more aggressive on Beuhrle. Of course, Buehrle’s agent may be holding him off of signing until CJ sets the market. We’ll see.
Regardless it sounds like Texas, for all the rumors about Buehrle, was genuinely aggressive on CJ.
They want one of those two lefthanders. Failing that they’ll bid harder on Yu or make a trade. I think one of those options will work out.
Go Strangers.
by hightowersmith on Dec 7, 2011 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
I think the Angels or Marlins are going to offer CJ 5/80 and the Rangers
will get a last chance to match.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I wonder if the escalating Buerhle market pushed them back to CJ
If Buerhle is going to get 4 years, I see absolutely no reason not to give CJ 5
I think Buerhle's market is contingent upon CJ, and both are highly fluid at the moment.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
i'll throw 14-1 odds out there that he does not sign this deal here
8-1 he signs in texas
3-1 he signs with a team from cali
1-3 odds he signs for more than $80M
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
i had more of a reply than this
and only one of them
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
So EG thinks no move would be the best move?
I don’t subscribe but I assume he means not signing the likes of Pujols or Fielder for a massive amount of money but I completely disagree. If the Angels get better, the Rangers have to get better….especially if the Angels sign CJ….
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 8:23 AM CST reply actions
Yeah they will not make moves for the sake of doing them...
But if they see an opportunity to get better to stay on top of their division and of course get that elusive title they well. I like that we are always trying to improve regardless of how good we already are.
well, EG is not a BGL fan
so he doesn’t see that as a big loss.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I think Gil is way off base. CJ is on record that a 3-yr deal eliminates a team.
Plus Washington and JD have said plenty about what CJ means to the Rangers.
Funny that Gil didn’t mention what player contract JD was responding to or if it was a general question about long-term, high-dollar contracts:
Daniels made a good point Tuesday as he talked with reporters about the seismic impact of signing a player to a heavy contract.
“To make that kind of investment,” Daniels said, “the player has to be a core player himself.”
I think Gil just likes to say, “I hate CJ and he sucks”.
I see no evidence he has any information about the Rangers thoughts on CJ.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
It's like my father in law says.
Throw out the 60 regular season appearances… he KILLED us in the playoffs.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Well, Colby's a gamer. That's the difference.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Can't see his agent being "pleasantly surprised" that the Rangers made a 3 year offer.
by mh420800 on Dec 7, 2011 8:35 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Which makes me wonder if they really did offer 4/48 last March.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
That's not constructive.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Obnoxious and insulting to be honest.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I'm not going to accept another fucked up thread just because he's a ridiculous troll.
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
You people who respond to Josey are the trolls to me.
- off season -
by b.pate on Dec 7, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, those damn troll feeders
Its their fault for responding to the troll, not the troll himself…
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Stand back everyone,
I’ll be the one to conquer this troll and make him regret his very own conception! I’ll use my pearier-like wit, laced with profanity to repel this repugnant intruder, because I am so much smarter than all others who have tread before me.
by txranfanted on Dec 7, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
You are defending Josey...
please listen to what you are saying and don’t make generalizations. He is a one of a kind bullshitter who doesn’t deserve an open forum anymore.
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
T to the H to the I to the S
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
Aaaaaand....here we go again.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
which makes me wonder if you follow baseball
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Let's not talk about this today
It was beaten to death yesterday…if anyone wants to talk about it please go to yesterday’s AM thread.
Peace, chicken grease.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Moderated.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Thank you Ryin A!
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
I think you are right.
Rosenthal reported last night on Hot Stove that the Ranger offer was 4/$60M.
Curious how Gil and Rosenthal can be so different on the same story.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
The 4/$60 number
Was called a fabrication by CJ’s agent and refuted by Nolan Ryan.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Nolan Ryan said he didn't know anything about it on MLB last night.
I don’t know if that means he “refuted” it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I think it does.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Or do you think Nolan isn't kept in the loop on the $60m dollar offers?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
JD'S BABY
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I think Nolan is dumb like a fox...just check the standings.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Missed that so thanks.
It was still being discussed this AM on MLB radio.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
I like Matches' take on the offer and the Rangers' public statements
gives different perspectives with motives behind each
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Dec 7, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Thanks.
I saw the headline and ASSUMED it was just a rehash of the original 4/$60M offer.
After your post I went back and read it. Pretty good write-up.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
I also miss Cahill's input here
His comments on the article reminded me that I generally agree with his baseball opinions. Even if I do not agree, he is well-informed.
by Scruffy Nurfherder on Dec 7, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
He went to BBTIA
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Nope. Just a commenter there.
Basically he doesn’t comment here any more… if he wants to talk Rangers he goes there.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Just for fun, who would you rather have added to the AL West: Houston Astros or Mexico City Red Devils.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
C'mon, what's not to love about decapitations, political corruption, and constant terror?
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
I bet the Rangers offer a 5th year vesting option
Which plays into CJs competitiveness and self confidence to keep him. Something like 180 IP in 2015 or 360 combined IP in 2014&2015.
4/64 with a 5th year vesting option for 16 mil (4 mil buyout)
Guarantees CJ 68 mil (17 mil AAV) and if he hits those performance goals he gets the 5 year 80 mil deal he is in line for
I thought almost identical numbers myself while getting ready for work this morning.
Just lower vesting requirements.
But the exact same 4/$64 with a $4m buy out and 150 in 2015 or 300 combined in 2014 and 2015.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
150 would worry me that its too low where he could get it to vest even with a mediocre-bad year
Or if he had a good year in 2014 and hit 200 IP it would make the option almost a lock barring injury.
Meh
I think I’m passed the point of really worrying CJ will just fail in those 150 IP.
I’m more concerned that he needs TJ in Year 4.
He had TJ surgery ...maybe 2002, 2003.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
August 2003, missed all 2004
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
maybe he'll get it again
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
I think its something like that too
It would be similar to what Lee did with the Phillies where he took less guaranteed money and bet on himself to be able to get more in the future. I truly think CJ wants to stay in Texas where he’s happy and he’s on one of the best teams in the league, so it might be good enough to just give him a chance at something like 5/80 instead of having to guarantee him that money. The problem is still going to be if there’s that one team out there that decides to blow everyone away with something like 100 million.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
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According to Jim Bowden of ESPN.com and MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM, the Phillies have dangled Domonic Brown in trade talks for Athletics’ left-hander Gio Gonzalez.
lolz
Dutch_Oven45 Derek Holland
@tatetatetateyan Yoshi what are you doing. How is Japanese weather
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 9:03 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I would be really interested to see what type
of return the Rangers would get for Hamilton
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
I'd rather keep and extend Hamilton.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
heh....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
If I'm Josh / his agent, I'm going to see what everybody else gets in the next 6 weeks
and then give the Rangers a 2 week window on February 1 to get their shit together with an extension.
As we saw with CJ, the price of bidness always goes up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Does his injury history and the fact that he relapsed not worry you at all?
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
Nope.
He’s one of the top 3 physically talented players in the sport and THE most important player on the team.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
He's also hurt a lot
and is a lock for an extended DL trip at least once a year. I won’t use the coke use as an argument, because I think it’s played out, but his age going forward and past injury history, are a huge concern. You can’t deny that.
Oh... I'm pretty sure Josey can deny that.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Troof
Who cares why he’s always injured. The fact is he’s often injured and is developing nagging injuries like the hernia. It’s not going away but just going to get worse going forward. And as that continues his reliance on strength, speed and coordination will suffer. Love the guy but not his future.
Football can go to hell. The Rangers aren't ready for football season and neither am I.
by WyoRanger on Dec 7, 2011 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for the straight answer
But seriously if you approached Josh today, December 7th 2011, what would a “fair offer” be to him?
5/90
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
Is what he would want,
and I wouldn’t want to do that.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
So, half of Pujols.
I guess you’d have to look at Werth as something that superstars might think as “fair”.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
heh, trying to avoid another 4/48 debacle I see
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
What debacle?
I said 4/48 in mid November and the price of poker went up in 4 months.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Ok
So like I asked. If you approached Josh today, 12/7/2011, what would your fair offer be? Doesn’t matter what the price of buisness will be on 2/1
I want to see where the market goes in the next few months...who could
have seen what Werth was going to get (and Werth can’t hold Josh’s jock)?
You’ll get an answer from me sometime in January.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Why do you have to wait?
Why wait if you know the price is going to go up?
What would you be willing to offer right now that you believe would be a fair offer to Josh?
Why do I have to wait?
To see how high the prices are going.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
What if Josh was willing to listen right now
and you could try and get him before prices go up? What would be a fair offer right now?
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
That wouldn't allow him to cup the balls of hindsight.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
like I said above
you won’t get an answer out of Josey. He learned from his mistake. If he gives you an actual amount now, we’re going to be able to throw it back in his face when he is proven horribly wrong (again). As a result, he’s going to take the pussy way out and just say he’s not sure.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
If he gave a answer now and then in late January came back and changed it I would have no problem with that
Things do change.
The problem with yesterdays situation was he says his offer changed in february or whenever he said but there was no evidence of such a thing.
He's not going to give you an answer in January either
It just buys him a couple of months
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
It caused quite a stir yesterday, bigsteve. Idiots were running around here like they'd discovered gold.
I gave an opinion in mid November per CJ and fell victim to the price o’ bidness going up. The ridiculous contracts of Beltre and Werth changed everything.
IF and for all we know it’s an if, the Rangers truly made a 4/48 offer last March, that’s a much different time than mid November because the landscape of baseball economics had been drastically altered.
I’ll just wait.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
You gave a opinion in mid November
And then you say you changed your mind a couple months later but there is no evidence of that. Thats where the stir comes from. You insist you changed your mind in february or something yet there is no evidence of it. The only evidence anyone can come up comes from midseason. If you can find a comment from Feb/March where you changed your tune then it would shut everyone up. But you cant and you answer is always “go find it for me” so until you provide your own supporting documentation people are going to call you a liar and it will be deserved
I didn't remember the 4/48 post from mid November
but I don’t have any problem with it….somewhere after that time (I’m not going to suck on the bottle of research) I changed my tune to 4/56.
The bottom line is that JD didn’t prioritize CJ correctly or he totally mis-evaluated him and because of that, he’s going to pay a helluva lot more for him or he’s going to lose him…possibly to the Angels and that would suck.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
theres the problem
You refuse to provide any documentation yet wonder why people get so pissed off at you
I don't care if it pisses them off.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
THEN GO AWAY
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Then why wont you answer?
trying to have a serious baseball discussion with you and asking a pretty simple question.
I asked y'all not to discuss this in this thread, go to yesterday's AM thread.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
BAN!!!
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously.
It’s more annoying that Josey himself.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
how am I baiting him?
Im asking a simple question about what he would offer and then if it warrants discussion so be it
Im not one calling him names just for the hell of calling him names or offering nothing in the way of baseball discussion.
last I checked this was a place to talk baseball and this falls under that umbrella as best I can tell. If people dont like his answer dont respond or just z past. Im trying to talk baseball with the guy. I dont feel like we need to be pushed to a previous days am thread just because ryin gets his panties in a wad. If he doesn’t like it do like Adam did and create a Josey thread
Just ignore him.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
How many times did you ask him the same question?
I’ll show you the conversation you were going to have
bigsteve: tell me
JW: some salary figure
bigsteve: that will never get it done
JW: JD better not shit the bed on this one
blah blah blah
1 year later:
bigsteve: see I told you!
JW: bidness, man
bigsteve: no seriously, admit to me you’re wrong
bigsteve: how come you didn’t respond?
OK
No reason I can see that has to take place in yesterdays am thread and not here given we are close to 800 comments already.
Especially when all the other Josey shit goes on untouched but actual baseball discussion, however bad it may be, gets pushed somewhere else.
What would you offer Josh right now?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
A Pizza Hut Big Dinner Box
I’ll even toss in a desert of his choosing.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Right now
I wouldn’t offer because it would be too much
What would a “fair offer” be IMO? 5/90 (small discount for signing a year before he hits FA)
He wouldn't sign that.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
How do you know?
Plus I didn’t say he would sign the initial offer. I dont know if you know how negotiations work but the team starts off on the low end and the player starts off on the high end and they meet in the middle somewhere.
5/90 would be a fair starting offer. But I wouldn’t offer that because thats more than im comfortable paying him given his age and injury history
We'd need to acquire a COF for it to be worth it
In which case, we’re downgrading for this year, which I’m not a fan of.
We're not rebuilding.
Hamilton’s 2012 production will be more valuable in 2012 than anything else we could get.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No but according to their GM the Chisox are.
They have some very interesting pieces to trade.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Why would the ChiSox, if they are rebuilding, trade for Hamilton whos going to be a FA after 2012
Unless its to free up salary like trade us Adam Dunn or something. We aren’t getting any of their young guys
That was not my intended point.
I agree with match that we are not rebuilding and Hamilton will be/should be more valuable to the Rangers in 2012. On the other hand the Chisox are rebuilding (which kinda shocked me) and they do have some nice piecs to trade to a contender like the Rangers.
Sorry if for not being clearer.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Ahh gotcha
Floyd and Danks are the two obvious targets but both will be expensive to trade for. Danks the lesser of the two.
I also think the trade deadline this season the Chisox will be active sellers.
That is if the GM is telling the truth.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Yeah
Although with the new compensation rules its going to be interesting seeing how that affects things
Good point.
The new rule will certainly have an effect. What effect is yet to be determined. but selllers are still gonna sell and buyers are still gonna buy.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
They only way I'd be open to it
Is if we can get good value (obviously less good for 2012, alone), but we need the savings to afford Prince this year.
Still not sure, though.
Did i say the Rangers were?
Im just wondering what type of return they could get for them. How much would a possible trade offer decrease due to his history?
Hamilton’s situation simply doesnt have any precedence which is why im very intrigued by how contract negotiations will go and possibly what his value would be as a trade piece on the open market.
"JD gets complete blame or credit for what happens in 2010 and I think Nolan wants it that way. JD is paid to be a real GM and needs to start performing like one." - Josey Wales
You didn't need to say we were.
My point is that the probable return on someone like Hamilton who is going into the final year of a contract before free agency and isn’t cheap at around $14m is usually a mix of prospects and cheap talent from a team that wants to add talent for a 2012 push.
Teams trying to contend don’t normally sacrifice high quality ML talent to get different ML talent.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
All three are left handed!
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Isn't Thornton's contract a bit expensive though?
He’s getting closer type money. And not to mention the prospects we’d lose through the deal. I know he’s good, but I think that’s a bit too much to pay for a non-closer RP.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
2/12 isn't that terrible
I wouldn’t give up too much if I had to take on the contract but if the ChiSox paid the tab he’d get a good package in return
Yeah his contract is just barely beneath what he'd probably get on the open market
So the return in trade shouldn’t be all that great.
Mind blown.
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
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Nadel needs to get this before I have to stab someone.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Online vote I think.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's awarded to the person who has to deal
with Joe Buck’s sorry ass for the most time.
by hateball on Dec 7, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
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"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
I feel like someone just told me that breakfast foods suck
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
oh right
it was the big breasts you thought suck
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Same thing.
I said I did not like them. I will not make overarching remarks on their quality. Just stating my personal preference.
LSB almost imploded over that comment
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Rosenthal was being sarcastic there... RIGHT?
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
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"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
It seems like the Phillies are serious about acquiring Gio.
If the Phillies do manage to land Gio, it’s very likely that they will shop Hamels in order to clear some room in their payroll If this happens, do you think the Rangers should go after Hamels? If so, for what price?
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 9:19 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't agee with your premise.
The philies can use Gio in the spot opened by Oswalt and have not shown signs that their payroll is problematic.
Now if your premise is correct you have to think JD will at the very least make a call and see what the price is for Hammels.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
Hamels is due for a big payday soon
And I mean big. Like Cliff Lee money big. Then the Phillies will be spending like $75 mil/y on just three starters. That just can’t work. They will be shopping one of the trio, and I think it will be Hamels considering his value would be the highest in the open market.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 9:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Phillies are in "all in mode"
They would just keep Hamels for 2012 and go for the title and then let him walk if they cant afford his contract
I wonder
Say Hamels is a free agent after this year, I wonder how a deal would work that included Hamilton. Obviously, we’d have to sign Prince and maybe get an outfielder or something, but I’d be interested to see how a trade would like between those two.
Dallas Stars Examiner
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Thats a interesting idea
if the Phils were able to land Gio by dealing Dom Brown would they then be interested in a Josh/Hamels swap?
Yes, please
if we could sign Hamels. I love Josh, but I’d rather commit big money to Hamels.
It depends if Ibanez is still signed
He’d be a pretty expensive 4th OF unless they could move him too
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
Well that would work out for them then
Just slide Hamilton into Left and have Vic torino and Pence in Center/Right
Dallas Stars Examiner
used to be under name hinduplaya
Oh of course
But it seems our FO is hellbent on improving the SP this winter so this would be a way to do that
Cliff Lee had a cheap contract in Year 1
The rest was deferred—which makes me think that his 2012 salary is replacing Oswalt’s salary (if that makes sense)
Hamels is due for a big payday soon
And I mean big. Like Cliff Lee money big. Then the Phillies will be spending like $75 mil/y on just three starters. That just can’t work. They will be shopping one of the trio, and I think it will be Hamels considering his value would be the highest in the open market.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 9:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can't believe Pujols is finna get 10 years....
After watching him in the WS :( he doesn’t look like he will age well….like, at all.
I’d throw up if the Rangers signed him.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Throw up your hands and celebrate?
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No, I'd freak out....
I mean, I’d love it for the first 4 or 5 years…but the back end? …man o’ man.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
2 or 3 Word Series would ease your pains
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We want...#1 Josh #2 Barnet #10000000 Rhadigan
still not over it, man
still get sick to my stomach.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
You must have really wanted it.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
TV contract is here by then
I’d rationally recognize that there are bad years to come.
But, I would be RIDICULOUSLY excited about acquiring Pujols.
Wow...
In a rapid-fire series of moves at the winter meetings that took 1 1/2 days to put together and 1 1/2 hours to finalize, the Mets agreed to trade center fielder Angel Pagan to San Francisco for outfielder Andres Torres and pitcher Ramon Ramirez, and reached agreements with free-agent relievers Frank Francisco and Jon Rauch.
Francisco gets a $12 million, two-year contract while Rauch receives a one-year deal worth $3.5 million. He can earn an additional $500,000 in performance bonuses.
I sorta wanted Pagan and Rauch.
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We want...#1 Josh #2 Barnet #10000000 Rhadigan
good for FX 2...always like the guy
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Wasn't very intereted in Rauch.
But I was interested in both Pagan and Torres.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I thought of you last night when I saw the trade.
Your two targets traded for each other. It was kind of funny.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Frankie's contract making Nathan deal look pretty cheap
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 9:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Can't believe Frankles got that kinda coin.
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"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Its from the Mets
Is it that shocking that the Mets would overpay a RP who might not be able to stay healthy over the duration of the contract.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Well, since Omar left thought that kinda shit would change...
don’t really remember Alderson’s history though.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
It doesn't matter who is running that team
Mets gonna Mets.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Nationals.
16th pick.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I wished to heck Pujols would sign
so the rest of the dominoes would fall. I’m not getting anything done.
I called in sick today......
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I would have but
I’m my own boss and he’s an a-hole…..
by beaudog on Dec 7, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes he is
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:18 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Really excited that the first email I saw today was about the F1 race in Texas being back on track- I’ll be there for my birthday in 2012
I really hope that they go through with this.
I love open wheel racing, and ever since SPEED has shown Australian V8 Supercars, I’ve wanted to go see one of those events too.
If you want to go to the one in Austin...
You should start making plans now. It’ll be massive.
F1 racing is insanely popular. Makes Nascar look like a passing fancy.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah, I think the F1 race will be a circus
I don’t know if I’ll be there for the first race there. I prefer IndyCar to F1, but it’s still great racing. I don’t think the V8 series will be packed, so that’s probably the first race that I’ll go to down there.
by Perfect Zero on Dec 7, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
Following the Mavs and Rangers offseasons are wearing me thin.
I hope nothing happens in the next few days, it’s hard to stay informed when you are traveling back from the sandbox.
Heh
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Prospects
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/12/7/2617983/lsb-offseason-community-prospect-ranking-9
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
TRADE!!!
Padres Acquire Huston Street
By Tim Dierkes [December 7 at 10:12am CST
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 10:13 AM CST reply actions
Why would the Padres trade for a closer?
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Because they don't have one
Heath Bell is a Marlin
by Mantis Be Praised on Dec 7, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
But they don't figure to be a contender
And act like a small market team. I don’t see why they would trade some prospects away for a closer when they are clearly rebuilding.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Who did they give up
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rockies are paying almost all of the 8 million of the salary
so a PTBNL
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
that's what Rosenthal says
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Street trade to #Padres expected to kickstart #Rockies’ pursuit of FA Brad Lidge, a Denver-area native.
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
meh
copy/paste fail
meant to paste the tweet in here that says Padres are taking all or most of his salary so Rockies get little in return.
Haha nah I didn't mean why to you, more of a why the hell would they want Lidge
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Why is Ken demanding us to retweet or reply?
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
THIS IS WHY I STAYED HOME FROM WORK TODAY...
boom.
NOW QUiT BEING A DICK PUJOLS SO SHIT"LL START ROLLING!
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
really shouldn't be that excited.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Biggest deal this offseason?
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
history of baseball
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I don't understand...
how anyone can say Wilson isn’t one of the ‘core’ members of this Rangers team. Given how long he has been there and how huge he was the last two seasons, it just makes no sense to me.
The Rangers need to give him 5/75-80. If they can’t get him then stay away from Buehrle and go sign another arm for the ’pen like Aardsma, Dotel or Wheeler and keep Ogando in he rotation.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I'm down for Dotel.
Moar socks!
I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food. - Ron Swanson
by Axe Em Rangers on Dec 7, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
Dotel + Kinsler + Murph = love triangle
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com speculates that the Rangers could be a fit for free agent reliever Octavio Dotel.
The Rangers met with Dotel’s agency, Beverly Hills Sports Council, on Tuesday and some team officials have a high opinion of the veteran right-hander.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
Isn't Dotel a Type A...
I just don’t see why we would have a need for another right handed relief pitcher…
by Mantis Be Praised on Dec 7, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
The Type A thing changed.
Dotel would not cost us a pick.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
correct
2012 Draft Rules will have the new rules that came from the new CBA.
New rules re draft pick compensation for FA begins after 2012 season.
by elvis1isking on Dec 7, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
There were several Type A relievers
who are not costing a draft pick this year.
Oliver was one of them.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
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"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
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CINCINNATI — Because of the new collective bargaining agreement reached on Tuesday, the Commissioner’s Office and the Major League Players Association agreed to alter the Draft pick compensation rules on five Type A free agents.
That includes Reds free-agent closer Francisco Cordero and catcher Ramon Hernandez, who will now be treated as Type B players for compensation purposes. Three other players, relievers Matt Capps, Octavio Dotel and Darren Oliver, were also granted Type B status.
Both the player and the club gain benefits. For the Reds, it means they no longer have to offer Cordero or Hernandez arbitration to receive Draft pick compensation should they sign elsewhere. It was highly unlikely the Reds would have offered either player arbitration under the old rules.
As for the players, clubs that might want to sign Cordero or Hernandez no longer have to relinquish a first-round pick as Type A compensation under the old system. This should make them more attractive to another team who might want to sign them.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
We didn't have to
We still get a compensation pick from him
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
You wouldn't say Feldman is a longman lock?
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Is he really being considered?
I thought Colby, Holland, Harrison were all locks with Ogando and Feliz holding onto the other 2 spots pending further signings.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Well
If we dont sign anyone else and the team feels Ogando isn’t truly a starter then Feldman would be the first guy they turn to
I don't know about that
I don’t think anyone thought Ogando was going to be the first guy plugged in last year.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
If Feldman was healthy last spring I doubt Ogando gets plugged in
If not Feldman then who would you plug in if say Harrison got hurt?
I would say Feldman
But I also would have said Kirkman or Bush when Hunter got hurt last year.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
i with you sprite....since STL bumped up their offer, I dont think there's anyway he signs w/ Miami
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Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
OMG Is that Derek Lee's music we hear?
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We want...#1 Josh #2 Barnet #10000000 Rhadigan
They've given the HR thing a name.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
who the fuck cares abou tthat?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
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JeffWilson_FWST Jeff Wilson
#Rangers are not in on Prince Fielder, says Nolan Ryan.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
And...
@aandro: Rangers don’t see Prince Fielder as a fit for them. [via Twitter]
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
yup this !
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Similar things were said about Beltre last year
Once we lost out on Lee we turned to Beltre.
If we lose out on CJ I think all of a sudden Prince has a place here although I dont think it should come to that. Prince should have been our #1 priority this winter from the get go IMO
I won't believe he's not going to be a Ranger until he signs somewhere else
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Need a shoulder to cry?
I won’t be there, but you and Jobu can cry it out…
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
So it's Pujols then.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
x
aandro Anthony Andro
Rangers don’t see Prince Fielder as a fit for them.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
I think Jobu is clutching his Prince Fielder doll...
Like Bart did his Krusty in the Kamp Krusty episode… chanting, “Prince will come. Prince will come.”
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
This would make a thrilling movie
Just when you think we’re settling for Mitch; BANG. Ninja gets it done.
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
the thing is... how the fuck is prince fielder not a fit for the rangers? that makes no sense
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Nolan hates fat people
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
he should quit cooking so many hot dogs then
by elvis1isking on Dec 7, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Wait... How many does he cook?
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Somewhere between thirty-four and thirty-six thouhnd
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
by jam0152 on Dec 7, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
35,000???
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
That sounds like a good guess
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah that raises some pretty big questions to me
I have no problem focusing on pitching but I cant think of how Prince doesn’t fit into this team
Really wanted Prince
Have zero confidence in Josh or Nelly aging well.
Not sure about the when the CBA effects Latin signings, but if they can, Rangers may go all out for all the big international players before the door closes on big $ signings.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
We're not out on Prince until he's been inked to another team
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 10:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The new rules don't kick in until next year's J2 class
So writers are suggesting the Rangers will sign Solis.
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
yeah
they better do something this year regarding 1st base, i don’t think there’s much of a FA market next year…
Theres not
Its gonna really piss me off if we dont sign Prince in a year when the Yanks and Red Sox are not in competition for a player and its a dynamic player just entering the prime of his career.
We may not get a opportunity to add this type of talent to our ML team for only money for a long long time
quotes do not look promising...from tr
Senior club officials also knocked down the possibility of Fielder. The Rangers certainly like the bat but an official said, "I don’t see how he fits our budget," and "he is not even on our radar screen."
Another club official said, "We haven’t even talked about him once."
The Rangers have the right to change their minds. Maybe they do if Wilson goes to the Angels. The Rangers made their best pitch to Wilson’s agent Bob Garber on Tuesday night but length of contract may be an obstacle. The Rangers may be too reluctant to go to five years.
yeah
i’m a bit worried that they haven’t even discussed him as a FA target. That’s just wierd.
Unless, they want to allocate all their resources in Yu, CJ, Buerhle, bullpen.
Yeah, that's the weird part to me...
Since when have these Rangers not discussed anything?
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
If he doesn't fit the budget then I think we have to seriously reign in our expectations for the coming years
It also makes me think we are going to throw money at our current guys which is scary given a lot of the injury histories we have currently
Of Hammy/Cruz/Kinsler
Kinsler is the only one I particularly want to extend at the contracts I imagine them getting. Still risky of course.
Exactly
You’re telling me we want to have a $130-$140 million payroll with mid-30’s Kins, Hamilton, and Cruz in it?
Right, smokescreen
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
Who needs Fielder when we have MITCH F*CKING MORELAND!!!
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 11:01 AM CST via mobile reply actions
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The Angels are ramping up efforts to sign C.J. Wilson with hopes of getting a deal done today, reports MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro.
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Angels closing in on C.J.
The Angels are believed to be closing in on signing local product C.J. Wilson.
An industry source told MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro that the Halos are ramping up efforts to sign the ace left-hander, with hopes of a deal getting done today.
Late Tuesday night, the Angels were deemed to be the third "mystery team" – along with the Marlins and Cardinals – in the hunt for slugger Albert Pujols.
But it seems Wilson is not only the target, but the likely acquisition.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
I will send him mean tweets if he signs with the Angels.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I will laugh at the Angels fans
who have called him a douche and listed him as the most hated Ranger and talked about how they could never root for a team with a guy like CJ on it.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
we did the same thing about NAP-O-LI
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Not really.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
rangers fans fucking hated napoli when he was with the angels
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
They hated a part time catcher
as much as the ace of the other team? Again, not really.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
I hate people for strange reasons.
and yes, I’ll laugh at the Angels fans for their hypocrisy (which makes me a hypocrite)
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I literally had no opinion whatsoever of Mike Napoli
until he came to the Rangers.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Truth
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I hated facing him
BUt that’s not hating him
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
I did.
But I hate every Angel…him just a tad more.
B/c the way he unbuttoned his jersey….
And his beard (which I still hate….too manicured.)
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
I liked him as a player at least
And was probably more afraid of his at bats than I should have been.
Angels fans also have the facet of all saying he was overhyped and would collapse when he was doing well. Granted almost everyone thought that and with good reason.. but probably not to the degree of certain HH bloggers.
A lot of hate for the Angels version of Napoli
but it was mitigated by Sosh being an idiot and playing Mathis so much.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Gonna be interesting to see what other moves they pull off in conjunction with this one
They still need offense so it would seem they have to trade one of their other starters for a bat
Also if it is in fact the Angels and they keep to their theory that Weaver will be the highest paid pitcher thats gonna piss me off. Its one thing to let CJ walk to the Angels if they overpay but if they get him for 5/80 i’ll be pissed. And if they then dont go get Prince even after losing CJ i’ll be really pissed
Wonder what kinda bat they could get for Santana?
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Bluff.
Angels putting bogus info out there to make it more costly for the Rangers.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
I don't buy the Angels unless the other offers suck.
They made it known they aren’t going to give him more than Weaver. So, you’re looking at an AJ Burnett like contract for him. it sounds like the Marlins are offering considerably more.
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
I take it w/ a grain of salt
but supposedly they are only working w/ 15-20 mil this offseason.
Seems like bait to get TX to bite the hook on bumping up the years on the contract. It also seems like TX is trying to downplay their interest in Prince.
I'm not a fan of this being the back to back news item with the Rangers ignoring Fielder.
JD, please have something up your sleeve.
Verducci
Speaking of international players, the latest on pitcher Yu Darvish, international man of mystery, is that he will be posted before the month is out — and possibly as soon as next week — according to two baseball sources. Darvish would instantly become the best pitcher available. His availability could put a hold on the top-tier free agent and trade pitching markets for some clubs. Stay tuned, because clubs have had a hard time reading Darvish’s intentions.
Hope hes right.
But with how late the bidding would end all the major FAs will be gone and if you happen to lose the closed bidding by a few million then you end up with scraps.
I hope they arn’t ignoring Fielder banking on Darvish. If they lose CJ I just don’t see why there’d be no interest in Fielder.
Now, this report scares me a bit.
The Yankees will listen to offers for starter A.J. Burnett, reports George A. King III of the New York Post, and they’re willing to assume $8MM of the $33MM owed to him for 2012-13.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
So, for teams in the "Buerhle sweepstakes", would they rather have a 3/39 to Buerhle or 2/25 for Bunett?
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
So, the teams who lose the Buerhle sweepstakes.... Would they be interested in Burnett over what's left?
Probably. That’s probably the target group for Cashman.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
some people like both
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Now why the Yanks would want to trade a 5+ ERA $17million pitcher, I just don't know...
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Heh...go figure.....
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
The Yankees should eat all but $8MM of that contract
if they are serious about getting rid of Burnett
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 11:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
fine.. give us santana
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
No thanks.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
for free
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I'm going to rage if Nathan is our top acquisition and Wilson leaves to the Angels.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
Ummm...
@karlravechespn karl ravech
Source tells me that marlins have gone to 6 years on cj Wilson..what does this say about Albert and Miami?
WTF Miami Marlins?
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
they crazy
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Just the one. "Source"
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Just don't sign with the Angels
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Yeah, if we can't get him, fine.
JUST NO ANGELS.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
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The Rangers make it a point to consider all options for improving the team, and, yes, that included looking at free-agent first basemen this year. But Prince Fielder is not on the Rangers’ radar, said three club officials.
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/foul_territory/2011/12/rangers-out-on-prince-fielder.html
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
And Mike Stanton, plz.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
He's not even for sale, according to reports
If we are dismissing the “Lomo is unavailable” reports, i’d rather just dismiss the “Prince is not on Ranger’s radar” reports
"one in which I too have"
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
GOD DAMMIT... I only want moreland playing against RHP in 2012.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
2014
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
If the Yankees/Sox didn’t have 1b I’d get this. With the current crop of Fielder suitors it just seems wrong not to at least have your hat in the ring.
fucking this
Very rarely will we have the chance to sign a top FA, a premium FA, without competing against the Yankees and/or Red Sox.
Right--my biggest concern is if we really aren't even looking
WHY NOT? There’s a plethora of reasons that he would make sense. You can’t tell me they wouldn’t pay 4/80 for him, right? At least talk about it.
The market right now appears to be the Mariners only, for crying out loud.
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Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
No final decision in place, but there is a growing sense among some of officials involved in Pujols talks that he is staying with St. Louis.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
10 years 220 is what im hearing.... i think that gets it done...
unless miami goes 10 years 245 or something… even still… at that point what is 25 million? i few % difference.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Which is what everyone said was gonna happen.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Obvious outcome was obvious.
The Marlins will then sign CJ.
And the Nationals will then sign Buehrle.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I'll take it a step further. It's what SHOULD happen.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Miami has two fallback rumors out there:
“Marlins going hard after Buerhle if they fall short on Pujols”
“Marlins have six-year offer to CJ”
I think they might be trying to get CJs attention.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Even with my resentment for the Cards
I’d rather he sign there.
Pujols in a MIami uniform, playing for that terrible fanbase, meh…
Chris Rose last night
was talking about what happens if Miami signs all these guys and people still don’t show up. Mentioned that the Rays winning didn’t exactly fill up their stadium and mentioned the large number of NE transplants that live there and don’t support the Marlins/Rays. Will be interesting to see what Miami’s real attendance in the new stadiium is.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
High paid players like Pujols fill stadiums
Even though Crawford and Longoria were superstars, they don’t even come close to the lime light as Pujols.
Seems like a novelty that has the potential wear off, especially if the team doesn't win.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Especially when he's too old to play as much the last few years.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
What we really need is for Adam to get on the road.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
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DKnobler DKnobler
Angels said by sources to be pushing hard to sign C.J. Wilson, hoping for deal within next 24 hours or so.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
Today is a day that will live in infamy.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No
ScottMCBSSports: With Reyes at SS and Ramirez at 3B, Beinfest says Marlins will have best left side of INF in baseball. [via Twitter]
Pshh
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Another comment that could be interpreted as possibly aimed at CJ, who does a good job of keeping the ball on the ground.
Also, strokes the ego of Ramirez.
He’s wrong, of course.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Beinfest is a fucking idiot.
Beltre and Andrus laugh at them.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
as they make another GG play
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Well Beltre-Andrus isn't too shabby
Especially considering defense.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 11:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
it's moot point
because Hanley isn’t moving to 3B
by rangersfan32 on Dec 7, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
The Marlins look like they are willing to go ass-to-mouth on the top FA's
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
If CJ signs there, this is going to look gross.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
FLA WSH TEX, I assume
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Remember last offseason when "hometown" was meaningless to Heyman?
Jon_Heyman: Wilson talking with hometown angels as @DKnobler said
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 11:46 AM CST reply actions
Well... it certainly is if the Yankees are interested.
The Yankees always get their man.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Is that really news at this point?
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
Probably Wilson or Pujols
jonmorosi: Samson says the #Marlins have a “three-part plan.” Bell, Reyes … [via Twitter]
The Fish are gunning hard for that Offseason Champion crown
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
RAGE GROWING
NewbergReport Jamey Newberg
On MLB Network, @JonHeymanCBS just predicted LAA signs CJ Wilson for five years and close to the vaunted 82.5MM precedential contract.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
I could have made that prediction.
CJ is talking to ANA. ANA isn’t giving him more than Weaver.
Thus, rumor.
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
agreed
Nothing new there.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
I actually have more faith in the boob...
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Wilson >>> Weaver
MIND IS FUCKING BLOW.
or WILSON $$$$$ > Weaver $
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Man
I hadn’t seen that Nolan was the one to say the Rangers aren’t on Prince.
The Rangers are not in on Fielder, president Nolan Ryan told reporters.
That makes me think that we really aren’t.
I am dubious I will be anything but disappointed at this off-season.
I know this is premature, but if we don’t add anyone big (and lose CJ), and the owners were intent on not spending big money, they should have kept their mouths shut, instead of talking about investing capital into the club.
They were referring to the CF improvements.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
What if we're in on Pujols instead?
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 11:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why not Hamilton?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
that's a fair question
i have an optimistic view that we can do a reasonable extension with him and that his body won’t go all rusty greer on us.
According to fangraphs he has been worth about 19 million per year average
Would you give him that over say 4-5 years? Do you think he would take it?
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yu just gotta hope for the best.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
by Brad on Dec 7, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The other thing that doesn't make sense
Is why not at least pretend we are interested in Prince? If the M’s are bidding, it sure as hell would make me feel better if we could try to drive up the price.
Plus, I can sit here and at least pretend we had a chance, the contract just went beyond what we were comfortable with.
Makes me think we’re ninja’ing
I don't think JD plays that way.
If he pretends not interested, M’s shoot low. Then, JD snipes him for what he had in mind all along. It’s the ninja way.
I'd obviously love for that to happen
But, I get the feeling that Nolan isn’t the type that enjoys backtracking on prior comments.
Nope.
And if you go back last year… he never ever said Beltre wasn’t on the radar or anything like that.
Just that it was complicated… alluding to “We have Michael Young and have to be delicate here.”
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yeah, real fucking delicate.
Per Rosenthal’s article that AJM linked last year, it was intimated that the Rangers needed to trade Young because his contract was keeping them from signing PS Koufax.
Real fucking delicate.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
"it was intimated"
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I think there's a fat joke in there somewhere
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
If there are only bad investments out there, why should they spend money?
They can use that capital at the trade deadline for a trade and sign, or other means.
Just because the money is there, doesn’t mean you HAVE to spend it right away. There are also other players on the current team that need extension and money.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
One of the key points...
Simpson never set a budget or said they were going to spend money just to spend it.
He said they would throw money in to keep the talent level where it is.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Most of whom are not great extension candidates due to injury history/age/track record.
With a poor FA market next year and thus likely fewer big targets at the deadline available as well. With a small 1b market that may keep Fielders contract from being ridiculous, and he is at a position of need.
Noone is saying sign Fielder at any cost, just that he warrants genuine interest.
Of course, its certainly not panic time if the Rangers don’t sign any big FAs.
Wait, next year is a bad FA market? I was under the assumption that there
were quite a few good pitching candidates out there for next year.
Plus, aren’t most blockbuster trade deadline deals involve players who aren’t going to be FA that year, but maybe the next one? Such as Tex?
I also don’t think the Ranges should just ignore Prince, but I feel confident that the Rangers know what he’s worth and what they should pay him. If they don’t, I’m sure the cost was to high.
And make no mistake, I’m not panicing.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Next year sucks
Ethier (who just had a terrible year)
Bourn (hopefully Leonys doesn’t fail)
Napoli and Hamilton, obviously. If Swisher or Quentin can be had affordably, they’d be adequate—but we wouldn’t be improving.
Pitching is good next year
This was the year to go after a big bat.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, pitching is great next year
But we’ll have harrison, holland, ogando, feliz, martin perez, and neram for extremely cheap
Yeah, I'm not advocating going for it
Unless no one steps up as a 5+ WAR pitcher this year. Then an ace might be tempting to lead the staff.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
The pitching is better than I thought
But the club options being picked up and an extension or two and its not all that great.
Its still a good time to make a run at Fielder though.
Yeah
Thats what the thought about the OF market was until Kemp signed his deal taking him out of next years class
Plus the Yanks and red Sox will likely be in the mix for guys too and itll be a lot harder, and more expensive, to add true impact players.
This year just lines up so perfectly I dont see how our FO can be so seemingly blind to it
I find you calling the FO "seemingly blind" a little insulting and honestly, wrong.
This is what these guys do for a living.
Your comment is akin to an ex-HS QB talking about how easy it is to see how open a WR is on the field and why can’t the QB throw him the ball where he can catch it and run.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Next years sucks for positional players
And given thats where most of our FAs will come from over the next few years thats where we will have to replace guys from most likely
I wouldn't be hating if we pursued Prince
And he ended up signing 8/180 somewhere, and we determined we weren’t comfortable with the contract.
But our three options appear to be: (a) sign all of our current players and hope that our extremely injury-prone roster becomes less injury prone with age
(b) sign a FA that looks like he’s going to get an atypically small contract for his position/production
© trade for players to replenish the soon-to-be holes.
I like (b) the best, and it seems like it’s the easiest way to be confident about long-term success.
borbon/gentry platoon next season? lets roll.
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 11:56 AM CST reply actions
Welp
Pujols is likely heading back to the Cardinals, tweets Andy Martino of the New York Daily News. He says the Marlins are shifting their attention to Prince Fielder, while several others say they’ll turn to pitching targets.
MLBTR
Defending Big D Check it out
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--iorange555 8/23/2011
I can envision Adrian Beltre getting on one-knee and taking one of Str8edgeracer's...
shitty half assed breaking balls and putting it into the left field seats.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 7, 2011 12:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I want Napoli to launch multiple moon shots in the stands and than chug a beer right in front of CJ.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Are you a CJ hater?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Nope.
Just don’t think he’s worth what he’s going to get. If 4/60 was true and he took it, I would approve of that.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
If CJ goes to the Angels, I wouldn't mind the Napoli troll gif with CJ's face added after Scioscia's face
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
By FanGraph's pitch values...
CJ had one of the best sliders in baseball last year in effectiveness. Same with his fastball.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
You mean the one he throws with an infected finger!
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Do we play the Nationals next season?
CJ is not going to Anaheim.
*knocks on wood
*throws salt
*crosses fingers
*punches a kitten
…
…
*punches it again for good measure
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Wish he goes to Miami
He would look so good in their cool new uniform.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Marlins would make him cut his hair...
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
They want to keep things business like, professional, and respectable
by Jobu. on Dec 7, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahaha
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well played, Mauer
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like something from "Dora the Explorer"
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
It would have to happen in Arlington.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
by Josey Wales on Dec 7, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
goET… ban him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Brilliant.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Except for the decade long history of him hitting very well on the road.
Michael Young is the one who can’t hit on the road.
Young is a utility infielder if he comes up with the Padres.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Yah I know
But apparently CJ is a badass on the road. So according to his logic Beltre won’t be able to take CJ out in either circumstance.
come the fuck on
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
CJ will be dead to me if he signs with Angels.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
Wish he signs with the Angels and then pull a Lackey
I would be so happy then.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well...this is encouraging
Ken_Rosenthal: #Rangers had encouraging meeting with CJ last night. Still in play. #MLB [via Twitter]
Also…
ScottMCBSSports: Agree w/all of you disputing Beinfest assertion that Marlins will have best left side of INF w/Hanley & Reyes. Beltre/Andrus pretty good [via Twitter]
The fan reaction to CJ resigning with Texas would/will be interesting to watch
“This just in, CJ Wilson resigns with the Rangers for ____….”
*LSB cheers
*casual Rangers Nation/DMN subscribers groan
The “debate” would be Romo-esque, I say.
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
"LSB cheers"
…depending on the price.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Truth
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
There are certain prices that I would cheer for if the Angels got him
But those figures are absolutely ridiculous, and will never happen.
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The casual Rangers fan will say...
“I’m glad he’s gone…he did nothing in the post-season….”
"I never argue with people who say that baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Dec 7, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Beltre-Andrus >>>>>>>>>> Ramirez-Reyes
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sexier, fo sho
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Starting to think
Ceej to Miami
Pujlos to STL
Rangers resign Josh and probably make a run at Yu though that seems like a crapshoot
by mh420800 on Dec 7, 2011 12:11 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
What it sounds like to me is...
The Rangers know what they want to pay and CJ knows what he wants to earn.
They both would like to stay together, but they both want to let the process play out and see what happens.
If Buehrle decides he’ll come here and play for 3/$33… that’s something the Rangers might not be able to say no to.
If the Marlins or Angels want to give CJ 5/$95… that’s something he might not be able to say no to.
But… if it doesn’t look like either party can get something crazy… they’ll meet in the middle and work it out.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
He won't let him go there for less than Weaver's contract.
I’m not sure where between 85 and 100M the Rangers cut off their bidding, though.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
We've heard from several that LAA won't exceed Weaver's 5/$85.
I think they do have interest in CJ… I also think they want to make damn sure the Rangers pay more for him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Agree on all fronts.
JD can take out the Angels by meeting Weaver’s deal, but I don’t know if he would go much above that to beat the Marlins (or Yankees, if their dump of AJ signals an interest in CJ).
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
And Deadspin posted the 1-800 number of the conference call, derailing it.
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by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Why exactly was it
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
What*
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wish something big happens already
Don’t think I can take this much longer.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why Fielder may not be a fit for us
As it is now, 1B is the go-to-place for getting MY some glove time* and Nappy some non-catching ABs. Plus, iF Mitch is 100%, he’s a pretty good and cheap with the possiblity of more upside. Add it all up, and that’s a platoon that should give pretty good production and, best of all, it’s already paid for.
That said, I’m not a big fan of resigning Josh/Nelly to long-term deals, and that’s gonna leave some holes in the heart of the lineup and the OF.
- Not that I’m in favor of MY glove time, but I ain’t running things.
Baseball's hard, guys. I mean, it really is. You can love it but, believe me, it don't always love you back. It's kind of like dating a German chick, you know?
Match showed some pretty good numbers
Showing that if Prince were willing to take a few more games off in the Texas heat, MY could get plenty of ab’s, even without injuries.
Very skeptical of a guy coming back from a wrist injury
Those seem to always make a pretty big dent in power at least in the short term
3/70 if you want to acquire those final 3 years.
KenDavidoff Ken Davidoff
Breakdown of Reyes contract with #Marlins: $10 mil, $10 mil, $16 mil, $22 mil, $22 mil, $22 mil. $$22 mil option on ’18 with $4 mil buyout.
Would you rather have Reyes' or Tulo's contract?
Tulo please.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
And to those who think they plan to go big in the next year or two
And then trade away their big FA signings…well you have some pretty obvious evidence now.
Only the Blue Jays could dumb that
;)
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So as an injury prone speed player gets older he's going to enter a stretch where he makes 22 mil a year.
No thanks….
Defending Big D Check it out
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"You guys are talking about living forever like it’s a real thing, but I bust out a man shoving his head into a vagina, and it’s srs time?"
--iorange555 8/23/2011
If its 4/48 for Buehrle or 5/82.5 for Wilson
I’m advocating signing Wilson. $4.5M/year plus 1 year is worth keeping CJ away from the Angels. And Wilson is better than Buehrle.
Agreed.
Don’t want Buehrle for 4/$48
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Who were the people advocating 3/45 for Buehrle?
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
John08Patriot was.
$40m guaranteed is where I top out for him.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
You want to make sure you aren't just paying per WAR at that point
Even if he is guaranteed 3 WAR each year you are pretty much paying facevalue at 5 million/ WAR if you sign him to 3/45
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
agreed Heebs
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
So what is a contract that you would be comfortable giving Prince?
I think the brewers offered somethign like 8 years $175M and he didnt take it?
What would you offer and would he take?
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
I thought the Brewers offered something like 6y/$120MM?
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
7y/$140MM would be fine by me
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jon_Heyman: 2 yrs ago fielder offered to stay in milw for $176M, 8 yrs. That’s unlikely to work now. But owners fly-in to dallas brings small hope [via Twitter]
Block quote fail
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's all good
Just don’t do it again, or we’ll have to cut you loose
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tex is declining
And we aren’t the Yankees. I’m not sure we want to replicate them either. You don’t want to overpay for players.
by dumdum000333 on Dec 7, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Thats fine
I would prefer to get him on like a 4-5 year deal but if we are talking about our upper reaches of comfort I am comfortable giving him a 8/180 deal if thats what it took
Someone help me
Where is the best place to follow the meetings without TV access or actually being there? Whats a good website?
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Try this
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Never heard of it
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never heard of it
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never heard of it
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
SBN sucks
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never heard of it
We’re not about sending messages. We’re about winning ballgames.-Wash, 04/03/11
Hell to the fucking no. -Wash, 10/07/11
I hate Twitter
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
How has no one suggested this?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jon Heyman pisses me off
Jon_Heyman: #rangers seem like threat to swoop in and win prince. Great team and park for him. Nolan ryan does not love ultra-long deals tho [via Twitter]
Boras wants the Rangers to be in the mix so bad.
And he doesn’t pay Heyman to sit around on his ass not tweeting.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Heh
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 12:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
then why follow him?
There are others that get info out just as fast but are way less annoying and actually have some journalism integrity
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
He's been pissing people off all morning
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If only he appeared to have any actual information backing that up.
The Rangers seem like a greater threat to sign Fielder, but apparently not.
This actually is a rumor from him
that I wish were the truth.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pirates to sign Erik Bedard per MLB:TR
The Pirates have agreed to sign lefty Erik Bedard, MLBTR has confirmed. Canadian journalist Marc Brassard first tweeted news of an impending $4.5MM deal.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Seems like a great move
Low cost, thus low risk. High upside. Can be moved at deadline for prospects. Nicely done, Bucs.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would have been on board with this
by Agreen07 on Dec 7, 2011 1:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Street deal not done
jaysonst: More Street: Same GM says #Rockies still talking to at least one other team about Street & insisting #Padres deal isn’t done #stopthepresses [via Twitter]
is it a bad sign that
all this hot stove stuff is rolling and I am more interested in the Fox/LAD BR hearing at this point?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I think Heyman is getting his news from the NY Daily News
Jon_Heyman: #marlins already in pursuit of prince. Signs indicate cards likely to get pujols [via Twitter]
Eclou just dropped the bomb in the prospect thread that CJ signed with LAA.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/12/7/2617983/lsb-offseason-community-prospect-ranking-9#84923523
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
this is not going to end well
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
CJ signing effectively means no Haren extension?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I believe that he is after emailing with eclou a few times.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Verdammt!
Should’ve punched that kitten a third time, I knew it!
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck him
When we win the west again next year he can watch from the dugout.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
by Texfan1996 on Dec 7, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this would be the only thing to save me from a rage attack
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
Same. I want the deal to be for more than the Weaver deal. We should have matched if it came down to 5/82.5
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
No way they gave him more than Weaver.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
No numbers released yet?
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Wonderfully played, JD.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
GO AWAY
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
i'm about to go nuclear....need happy thoughts
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
2010...
Neffy Ks Arod….
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
rage leaving.....
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Aaaaand
Banned
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh boy, if this is true, you won't shut up for years about it.
Don’t feed the troll.
Expectation is the root of all heartache. — William Shakespeare
Courtesy of HH
For what it’s worth…somebody from LSB who has been fairly reliable per CJ says he’s an Angel.
Congrats, you’re going to love him off the field and between the lines.
“Dying ain’t hard. It’s living that’s hard.”
“Don’t become the ’82 Milwaukee Brewers.”
“You want false modesty? F that.”
by Josey Wales on Dec 7, 2011 11:09 AM PST reply actions
.
It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin
Congrats, Angels fans!
Love, Josey — nominal Rangers fan.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
As pissed as this place will be at CJ
I can’t blame him. The guy gets to play for his hometown team. And as much as it hurts the Rangers, I can’t hate the guy for wanting to play at home.
I can blame him
The Angels suck.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
I want to hear some details and I imagine the FO will do what they did after
Tex was traded…spoon-feed TR Sullivan info to make them look good and CJ greedy. I imagine we’ll hear some whack shit about CJ as well.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
GO AWAY
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Are we supposed to be happy we may have just lost our ace to the Angels?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Yes, you are.
Now shut up.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
i'm not discussing anything with you
anyone else yes….not you.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
You said the same fucking thing last year when Lee signed with the Phillies.
You were an idiotic douchebag then and you are an idiotic douchebag now. Keep pushing that agenda. It’s all you’ve got.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Dec 7, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
He loves this shit.
He’d love nothing more than to see this team fail at every opportunity in order to get his fucking bitching in.
He’s a bad fan.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
by vfn on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Terrible Fan
He revels in their failings.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
So untrue.
I love CJ…probably a top 10-15 Ranger player/pitcher of all time.
He’s smart, not afraid to speak his mind and a good guy off the field plus he can pitch his ass off.
If he’s gone, this really sucks because we just lost a good ’un.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
"...a top 10-15 favorite Ranger....."
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
And yet
the first thing you did was mention JD. Quit playing innocent. You’re a bad fan.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
But it makes you happy because it's another bullet in your Gun of Bullshit against JD.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Do you think how the CJ negotiations were handled is a positive or a negative for JD?
I’m going to let the off-season play out but if CJ’s gone, it’s a very bad day for the Rangers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I think it's entirely possible to follow the correct process and have things not work out for you.
And that bad things (like CJ leaving the Rangers) happen with neither side being at fault.
I believe that we have a smart front office that has made far more extremely good moves than bad and that deserves our trust in them to put the best possible team on the field. Of course, we will scrutinize and critique every deal as they happen, but we are operating at an incredible information deficit and we are fans.
And I believe that you should shut the fuck up.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Of course...the Umbrella of Protection comes out...the same one that defends the BWebb signing defending the process and ignoring the results.
IF CJ is gone…that’s a pretty big fuck up by JD considering how much CJ has said he wanted to be here and how much he loves his teammates (said that yesterday on Ben & Skin)…but that fuck up is multiplied when we see that CJ went to the Angels.
Don’t sugarcoat it, JD fucked this one up badly.
There’s a lot of off-season left, let’s see if he can fix it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Uhm FWIW, I hated the Webb signing.
And I like to consider myself AT LEAST 45% of LSB.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
STOP.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
i really hate when you type dumb shit
if the Angels signed CJ for 8 years and $160M and we didnt try and pay him 170 over 8 years, that’sa fucking good thing
you have no idea if it was a fuck up or not. you have not one detail. if they signed him for 4 years at $50M, then yes, JD fucked up. but i’m guessing that isn’t the case, you fuck.
so, in conclusion, fuck you
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the only thing I will say to you
With a big free agent like this, if they don’t keep him it’s not only the GM’s fault. Your boy Ryan and ownership share the blame, too, so shut the fuck up.
by Black Francis on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
JD has had the keys to the car since the end of 2009.
This is on him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I love the revisionist history part of this post
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
I spit water on my keyboard
bullet in your Gun of Bullshit against JD
What an awesome line. Thank you.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 7, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
maybe he really wanted his Octobers off
by SteveP on Dec 7, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
Yeah that World Series shit was getting old.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Annnnnnd
wrecked.
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
he already has been taking his Octobers off
by Longhorn on Dec 7, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Heh
In true Sore Loser fashion, I think I’m gonna dust off the ole’ “Choke Job” moniker for CJ for next season.
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
Look at CJ go
Fuckity fuck fuck, fuckity fuck fuck
Josey’s gonna blame the FO
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda getting the feeling we've been deceived about this team's financial plans....
DALLAS — It seems that everyone at the Hilton Anatole — from scouts to officials to media — believe the Texas Rangers are going to get involved in the Prince Fielder sweepstakes.
But as of Tuesday morning, Rangers president Nolan Ryan isn’t so sure. He said that he doesn’t see how Fielder fits financially in the club’s plans. And sources said the club is not pursuing Fielder at this time.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Thats it.
He’s ours.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
NO NO NO WE HAD A GREAT DRAFT
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
And now Buehrle is going to want 4 years...no thank you.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
As if Buerhle didn't want 4 years before?
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
Deceived how?
The only number that’s been floated is a possible upper range in 3 years by Simpson. Nothing of any concrete nature has been said by the org about next year’s budget. All the talk about the team’s supposed large availability of cash has been driven by media types.
by LiamP on Dec 7, 2011 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
TRADE IDEA:
wilson for Napoli?
I take it you don't have the DOV Secret Decoder Ring
You need to drink more ovaltine
-Quad Fin Rider
by DAD OF VLAD on Dec 7, 2011 1:14 PM CST reply actions 10 recs
perma
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond
Thanks GoET...
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thank you sir.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
why?
Unlike this cat, my love for the LAA will never die.
by NathanielS on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
go away
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
yep, i dont wanna look at that sig
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Trolling
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
trilling i am
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Unleash the hounds!
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
let me ban someone, shit.
"Sometimes you just want to sit back and watch somebody throw 100." - Jeff Passan on Neftali Feliz
"Baseball's all that's real" - JB
Mobile rec
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh so green.
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - Jason Parks, 7/14/11
2011-07-25 17:44:05 - benjihana: Ahh my backdoor!!!
"It appears I made a mistake. I did not know what pegged meant" - Schultzy, 11/13/11
by vfn on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Yes please.
Josh Hamilton: "I just show up, look at the lineup and play where I’m told. If they want me to catch, I’ll catch."
Jon Daniels on relationship with #Rangers Young: "I’d love to walk in and hug everybody every day, but that’s not critical to us winning." 2/19/11
dear 6lb 9 oz baby jesus...........
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
You gotta be fast on the draw, old man.
This is a young mans game.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
Too late
There might be more later, though…
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fuck them all
We survived Cliff Lee and we will survive this. JD is not going to sit still and do nothing.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
God...
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just don't let him pitch in the post season
and you will be fine.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
by Texfan1996 on Dec 7, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They won't be in the postseason
Duh
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Do Angels fans even remember the post season?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
It's that time after they go home
and other teams are still playing.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Its that time of the year
when the Red Sox beat their asses silly.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
They have to get there first.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Pfffft
Post-season. Good one.
"Winning the World Series is like getting the star in Mario Brothers. You run around flashing and invincible and nobody can fucking touch you."- matchst1ck
by WildcatPhoenix on Dec 7, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Better yet
he’s the perfect guy to pitch in that one game wild card thingy if you get there.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Have fun losing to David Price
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Trade idea:
You for actual dog feces.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
What an insult to dogs everywhere.
by Perfect Zero on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Heh
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So, eclou says CJ signed with LAAAA. But I can't find anything anywhere else
was that a complete joke or are we just bracing for the official word? I mean, MLBTR doesn’t even have anything
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond
I'm bracing for the official word.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
AJM tweeted that he thinks its a joke
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
when has eclou joked about something like that though?
"The Rangers system just happens to be stupid with depth." - JParks
"It’s unusual that Sickels is higher on a low-A prospect than those of us who follow the Rangers’ system closely." -rooster on Jan 1, 2011 12:10 PM PST talking about the son of Judeska and Chesmond
Eclou would lose a lot CJ street cred if not true.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I believe he would lose all of it
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
no idea Eric
lets see
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
What has Eclou said about being CJ's friend? Never saw any of this.
Actual in person see a movie together friend? Or he talked to him on twitter, got his phone number and has sent a few texts to him?
eclou builds fast cars
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
He's never said exactly...
but he’s mentioned enough stuff that I believe that he is.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
yea me too
but thsi could be a ploy by CJ to fuck w/ us….long shot but we shall see
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
Hangs out with him.
Posted a picture with CJ and his kids.
eclou has commented on this site that he’s a car enthusiast. The connection between the two has something to do with racing/cars.
I’ve exchanged a couple of emails with eclou which gave me his real name and about 30 seconds of google searching verifies everything that eclou has ever stated describing himself as a surgeon and car enthusiast.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
No... but I do know your name. ;)
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
that shit cray
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
The former.
He was in the box at the playoff games with CJ’s friends and family.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
Please be right, AJM
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm thinking it's a false alarm.
by RangersfaninROK on Dec 7, 2011 1:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So if CJ does sign with LAA...
Will the mainstream mejia credit Eclou of Lonestarball for the scoop?
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 7, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
well the Boob
says they have a deal in principle and should be done in 48 hrs…
Still better the Heyman
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Will this be worth it if we get Prince?
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
CJ signs for 7/150
And we get Prince for 4/40
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
/sarcasm
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Watching the Angels fans
have to embrace CJ now will be entertaining enough. Plus, their offense still sucks.
"Calmer than you are dude"
by Arlington Stadium Legend on Dec 7, 2011 1:22 PM CST reply actions
I hope it isn't true...
but I guess I’ll get to know what it feels like to hate C.J. if it is.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
It won't be hard
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think it will go away quickly
Look what happened to Tex
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Same here.
One of the few I actually disliked when he was a Ranger.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Did you like Arod (I'm sure you didn't)?
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I liked that he was the best player in baseball.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I did...
and I was pissed and bummed out for years about that trade.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
But...
You hate him now, riiight?
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not really...
I think he’s kind of a weird dude, though. And I don’t like him as a Yankee. Just like I won’t like C.J. as an Angel if that happens. But that doesn’t mean it will be an easy transition for me. C.J. has been one of my favorite Rangers ever.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's major psychological issues
The only part that makes me want to hate him is the rumor that would tip pitches to opposing sluggers
It bugs me that megia types claim the ARod signing was holding
the Rangers back…no it wasn’t …the dumbfuck who owned the team and insisted on a small-market payroll was the person holding the Rangers back.
It would have been a lot of fun to have an infield with ARod, Kinz, Young and Tex.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Where's Hank in that mix?
Traded?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
At the Beer Barn looking for a keg
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Heh... not back in those days.
Hank gave us some good times. You know this… you loved him like a son.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
His wheels started coming off right when Kinz
was splashing around The Show.
You’re misinterpreting my feelings for Hank F.
I thought he was the better alternative to Chris Davis in 2009 because Davis was drowning like no player I had ever seen before and that’s it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
I wasn't around.
So I’m just piecing together from the bits and pieces.
I just know you had him in the Great War of 2009.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I thought it might be a good idea to
give him a 3/30 contract after 2007 as a way to show the fans (who stopped showing up in 2007 when bullshit like Bravo Kenny and The Sosa came here) that they were committed to the long term with young homegrown players after they dealt Tex.
And then Hank F got hurt in early 2008 and I was fine with year to year after that.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
He wanted to give him a 3 year, 30 million dollar extention after 2008.
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
2007
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Wait, I seem to recall you wanting to extend him
to some crazy 4 year deal? That was before Davis.
I’m becoming confused.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
I became a Rangers fan at the beginning of the '04 season
Missed the Arod era.
I’ve always hated him, always will.
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just got away from work
What’s a quick update on everything?
A burden should never be something out of your control.
Eclou claims Ceej is going to LAA
And that Ceej told Eclou about this via text
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If was Eclou, and I decided to lie about this
This is the perfect day/time of day to do it. Just sayin.
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The text may even be real.
But it may be joke by CJ. Who finishes a serious text with “lolz”?
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
That image was fake.
Rooster should not have posted it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
What? Why?
I don’t even text; I have no idea what these things look like, literally.
And, I’m just showing people what eclou posted so they can judge for themselves.
I messed up the size, but really, why all the anger over posting it? (A question not aimed solely at you)
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Because he did not post that.
It’s fake.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 7, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Hahaha fake text was obviously fake
This is cracking me up that everyone thinks that was the text. Need some laughs right now CAUSE URGE TO KILL IS RISING
by mh420800 on Dec 7, 2011 1:46 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Because it violates the rules of not making stuff up for a joke.
People believe this shit.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I posted it, good lord people. Was trying to make a funny, guess it didn't work.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Someone get the footage of that Patterson grand slam!
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't even look at who posted it because I was already ramping up to angrydome.
You suck.
"...Ron Washington is the Les Miles of MLB." - AJM
I'M SORRY.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
by hornedfrogs45 on Dec 7, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
WHY WON'T YOU FOR GIVE DARVISH?!?
WHAT HAS HE EVER DONE TO YOU?
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
if they are that close
that he gets one of the first texts from CJ about it, wonder why he can’t find out terms of the deal?
Replies to my mass text to my baseball circle about CJ possibly being on his way to LA:
“Fucker – I hope we light him up.”
“We need Beuhrle then”
“Later then buddy!”
“Oh well”
“I feel indifferent, let him go”
I need new baseball friends.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I agree with the last one, I think.
I’m having a hard time getting really, really upset about this unless it comes back that he signed for 5 years, $70 million or something. Which I’m sure he didn’t.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
I don't even care about the money or that he's leaving so much...
I had pretty much resigned myself to that. It’s the Angels aspect that sucks.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I think thats how a lot of us feel
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brush her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
This.
I’m leaning most towards agree with reply #1 right now, just because anger is the most useful emotion right now.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Agreed--don't care about the money
Their team looks extremely good on paper, right now.
If they can sustain their salary without dishing Santana, I’m scared.
It's not even about worrying about the Angels so much, either...
It’s just…I really fucking hate the Angels and I really like C.J. so it blows.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with the last part
But, I’m worried about winning the division next year, now.
If they go into the season with those 4, and we have regression from Napoli + some unfortunate injuries, it’s hardly a reach to say we could miss the playoffs.
Can’t really depend on the Wild Card anymore, since that only gets you a 1-game playoff, in which the freaking Mariners could beat us.
Well...
We’ve been VERY fortunate to have relatively no real competition the past two years.
Imagine how it feels in the AL East?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
If he did sign with LAA...
I’ll have to decide what to do with my red Ceej 2010 World Series patch jersey.
And I have a blue shirsey.
I like Ceej. :(
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Let's start thinking of mean things to say...
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
I hope Dominque Piek ditched him for a black man from Watts.
by TooLegitToQuit on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
A chick sleeping with a black guy is a really big deal to TLTQ.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
They are known to have superior penes.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
I think it'll be 5/$82.5
Just like Lackey and Burnett.
And I hope the #6 org curse follows it.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Do the Angels now trade Haren for offense?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Lots of talk they'll trade Santana
And they’ve been shopping him in preparation if they signed CJ.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
So they must not be shredding payroll
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Santana costs like $11m
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Almost as much as Haren.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Haha...
Haren, Wilson, Weaver were 3, 4, 5 in WAR by AL starters last season.
:-/
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Oh well
just the best starter we’ve had in years…..proved he could pitch at RBiA….didn’t piss and moan about the heat….etc…etc….
From TR
The Rangers met with the Red Sox again this morning. The Red Sox are looking for bullpen help, the names being mentioned are Mark Lowe and Koji Uehara. The Rangers need a utility IF and have an interest in Jed Lowrie.
Baltimore would like re-acquire reliever Koji Uehara. There is a lot of interest from several teams in Uehara. Teams seem to the think the Rangers will be willing to give him away because of his poor performance in the post-season. However, the Rangers still have a high regard for Uehara.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
hard to determine if this is
a potential trade to help both teams or are other teams just trying to buy low on Koji.
You can only be young once but can be immature forever!
If CJ resigns with LAA, is this their way of countering for Napoli being traded to us?
Ain’t the same as assassin ninja JD’s moves.
i hope CJ resigns instead of going to the angels
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
me too....hold me TDT
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
sounds awesome
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
no
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
what about mitch?
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
Fascinating is #Mets r talking with suitors seriously about Ike Davis. #Rangers, #Pirates need 1B. Tex in particular is known to like Ike
You're too clever
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by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 1:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ike Davis pretty much IS Mitch Moreland...
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather have Ike if hes healthy again, but its not something I'd want to give up prospects to do...
No reason for the Mets to give him away.
I'd rather have Ike Davis over Mitch Moreland, too...
but they’re not terribly different.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
AJM's tweet isn't getting much play.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Larry Bowa is really fucking stupid.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
He is. I wish MLB Network would get rid of him.
I want him gone more than some of the other stupid guys on there.
Yeah
I have a hard time believing that nothing would be out there by now.
I mean hell we got last years “plane gate” going national quicker it seemed
I think it's easier to keep something like that a secret, than people act like it is
Rumors are leaked when teams/agents want them leaked.
Come on
You know guys like Grant and such read this blog. Given so many comments and then AJMs tweet if there was any smoke I cant believe it wouldn’t have spread by now
Grant probably isn't reading this blog during the winter meetings.
He’s probably kinda busy.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
Still trying to get Napoli's number I take it
Josey Wales: "And if you think intangibles really do exist, how in the F could you vote Ellsbury as the MVP?"
Adam J. Morris: "If it weren’t for my horse, I wouldn’t have spent that year in college."
And, then, CJ himself posting on LSB that he signed with Rangers.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
this is the angle I'm going for
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
I believe what eclou says.
But that doesn’t mean he has good information.
But I believe that it is probably true.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I don't understand this; He has bad information that's true?
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
If CJ is fucking with eclou
Eclou may not know it.
I believe eclou is being honest… that doesn’t mean his source is.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I hope that C.J. is the troll that LSB deserves, but not the one it needs right now...
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It could have just happened...
I’d imagine these things take a little bit to leak.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
The Sosh was just asked about CJ Wilson on MLBN...
said ‘I don’t know. Dipoto is working on different things to improve the club."
from TR
Rangers Club Officials at the Winter Meetings are not optimistic about signing LHP CJ Wilson. They feel that his asking price is too high and that he will probably sign with the Angels or the Marlins.
The Rangers did meet with Mark Buerhle’s representatives Tuesday night.He is supposedly looking for a 4-year deal which Texas is not comfortable with giving Buerhle. Club officials have mixed feelings about Buerhle: some in the organization like the fact that Buerhle pitched alot of innings and is a proven veteran, however, others in the organization feel that he is at the beginning of the downside of his career.
ajm, purpura/ryan vs jd/levine?
I doubt Purpura has any input on something like that at this point.
We just hired him and his job is the farm system.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
I haven't seen any Ryan/JD rift in the public comments on CJ.
Or a Ryan/JD/Wash rift.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
that sounds like Wash vs FO
the FO would worry about decline phase. Wash loves him some verteran proveddness.
I'm thinking the Marlins got him with a 6-yr deal.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Must still be waiting on Pujols before Marlins make the offer official.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
x
Sullivan_Ranger TR Sullivan
Rangers Not Optimistic About Wilson – Have Talked With Buehrle wp.me/p1rXwL-8W36
zz
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Ron Washington just confirmed with me that the Rangers went to 5-years on C.J. Wilson last night @mlbnetworkradio Sirius 209 and XM 89
Saving face. Bad news.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Wait! What about XM175?!
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
That seems like info
he probably shouldn’t be advertising right?
Would have been better strategy to do that last March.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Cupping those balls pretty nicely right here.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
by AceJC on Dec 7, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Continuing to load the Gun of Bullshit.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011, in response to me saying I would rather face the Thunder than the Grizzlies in the WCF.
by Aqua on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Will someone please ban this fucker.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Wilson signing with the Angles might mean Prince signing with the Marlins...
If they don’t have any other big targets to chase.
How about CJ signs with the Marlins instead.
this team has been successful because it has been balanced.
by Black Francis on Dec 7, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
They weren't successful the year they scored 901 runs
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
How many runs did we give up that year?
How many runs do you think CJ is worth compared to our staff last year?
Nah. Give me Prince at twice the dollars.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
x
I think CJ leaving means Buehrle is more likely to be here.
If we spend $15MM per on Buehrle I'm going to dos attack this place.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
I agree, but since we aren't signing Prince
It just means the Angels got a lot better, and the Rangers got a lot worse.
Do you see that morbidly obese fat fuck giving us a road ERA around 2.50 like CJ did the last couple of years?
I don’t.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
We're about to lose a stud pitcher!
We scored 850+ runs last year…I think the offense is in pretty good shape.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
X VALUE FROM PITCHER = X VALUE FROM POSITION PLAYER
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THIS
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
I am amazed that he is still allowed to post here
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
See above.
We need pitching.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
First, baseball discovered runs created = runs prevented
THEN, JW discovered that runs prevented >>> runs created.
Verducci reporting that the Marlins have just given CJ a 6 year offer.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Babe Fucking Ruth.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
Please educate yourself.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fieldpr01.shtml
The difference between Moreland and Fielder’s production is much, much greater than the difference Wilson’s production and whomever we find to replace him.
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
Here is the discrimination against fat people again
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
How many 300 lbs players have you seen who were worth a damn when they were in their 30s?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
3
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Names?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
travis jenkins
geoff burress
david ortiz
I jinxed the Rangers on 13 April 2011
by TagDon'tTweet on Dec 7, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
David Ortiz
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else." by Earl Weaver
:)
I’ve showed him the research before, but he ignores it. Not going to break my neck trying again. See Cecil Fielder (lesser hitter than Prince), Greg Vaughn (lesser hitter than Prince, David Ortiz, Jim Thome, Tony Gwynn, yada yada yada.
Great hitters are great hitters.
Laughing more at the play on the word bunches. It sounded like a fat joke.
"I don't really like pitchers." - Nelson Cruz
He isn't 300 pounds
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
He cops to 275 lbs and that's a joke.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
"Don't become the '82 Milwaukee Brewers."
"You want false modesty? F that."
So you've weighed him?
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
No because he's a first baseman
The Rangers do have a track record of converting position players to pitcher. That would be an interesting thing I to do with Fielder, one I haven’t heard yet.
If I had a gun to my head and had to pick one pitcher to pitch a game to save my life.... I'd pick 1999 Rick Helling.
Dear Rangers, Make me forget about 2010.......
by matthewbschultz83 on Dec 7, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
xx
karlravechespn karl ravech
Marlins very real chance to end up with both Wilson and buehrle
nobody knows what’s going on.
There's one up...
it just didn’t attach to the front page for some reason.
by ghostofErikThompson on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
AJM just put a new front page post up
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
Good.
I don’t want to overpay Buehrle if we do indeed miss out on CJ. Explore the trade market, go after Yu, or sign Prince.
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Hamilton for Greinke!
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
I was gone for 20 min.
Whats been happening?!?!
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 2:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Complete failure
That should be the bottom
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 2:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Next one will say there's a very real chance they sign Pujols AND Fielder.
"...out of the shadows of unprecedented success, the sun shines down upon this team waiting to thrill anew." - ghostofErikThompson
AJM --- How can you tweet a web page that doesn't show up when I go to lonestarball.com?
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
okay, now it's funny
MLBRumorCentral ESPN
Did the Rangers up the ante for Wilson? #rangers #mlb es.pn/vnwrk4
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
goodbye CJ
NewbergReport Jamey Newberg
Verducci just reported on MLB Network that FLA has offered six years to CJ Wilson.
See ya, CJ
Am I doing it right?
"I have thought a lot about why people get so hostile online, and I have come to believe it is primarily because we live in a society with a hypertrophied sense of justice and an atrophied sense of humility and charity, to put the matter in terms of the classic virtues." --Alan Jacobs
lolol
SORRY GUYS I am going to make a retraction
CJ has NOT signed with the Angels yet. Rangers still in serious consideration. After warning you guys about misleading news I have to say I am guilty of jumping the gun myself (misread my txt messages). I’ll save Adam the trouble and voluntarily ban myself for awhile.
"The fattest countries have the biggest tits" -Texas Jihad, 10-12-11
"misread my txt messages" nice cover, if this was actually posted.
heh.
But, I’m not buying it yet coming from the guy that posted the fake text jpg. Link it for me, please. It’s hard to keep up with three threads on LSB.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Just found it.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
Marlins trying to force Pujols.
The Marlins are well down the road with negotiations for Wilson and Mark Buehrle, reports ESPN’s Jayson Stark. They’re saying that if they sign one of the starters, that will end their Albert Pujols pursuit.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
what was their official offer? 10/240?
"God dammit TAG I swear to God if you keep this "It was a close play" shit up all night I will send you cookies made from my own shit" -River Fenix 8/26/2011
"this is a big reason I decided not to convert to Islam now if it was 72 skanks? Different story, my friend" Bob Loblaw 9/2/2011
by I am Neftali Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Some stake in the organization after he retires.
I think we’re all waiting on MLB to figure out if their going to let whatever the Marlins have put in Pujols’ contract stand.
I don’t feel like Pujols is sitting around wringing his hands about it at this point. He knew what it was going to take to get pulled from STL.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
I was gone for 20 min.
Whats been happening?!?!
PS: my SBN skills are terrible
I hate The Angels so much, it's actually cramping my style. (See RevHaloFans SBN profile page)
by Gay For Feliz on Dec 7, 2011 2:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
basically
RWash confirmed they went 5 yrs to CJ
ECLOU said CJ to Angels, but now retracting saying Rangers still in it
Marlins have made a six year offer to Wilson
i almost went nuclear earlier
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
I've recently learned that fake text messages are easily generated.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
i thought it was funny
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
I do NOW, of course.
Amazed to see how clueless I am while in the heat of being so easily pranked.
Emily Jones: Adrian Beltre's pretty good?
Mike Napoli: Wow. How about that guy.
The truth about MLers from a MLer, Todd Coffey:
"In my heart of hearts, if it's the right contract, I would look to definitely come back to the Nationals."
its ok, i was raging so hard above
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
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